Marko said no to Sainz not because of Carlos. It was because of the entourage of Carlos. They are very “present” and with quit a pose. Max has his dad present for a race or 6-7 a year, but Carlos’ pose is huge and they are there always and very “present”. Even during quali and the race
You've said this well. Every time I see his (I believe) his nephew on screen, filling the space with his aura and being everywhere on the place, I feel sorry for the mechanics and team management.
@@surgemeister182 it’s a choice and it has won and lost him opportunities. Carlos is great but was not a team player with Charles and Charles eventually was very vocal about it… do you want that for a second driver?
Peter misses the point of Hungary. McLaren undercut Oscar where the lead driver gets priority. If they don't, you'll have drivers compromising strategy by undercutting each other. Should McLaren have defended against a Lewis undercut? Arguably, that wasn't necessary. What Lando should've done is just give the place back immediately and overtaken Oscar on track OR just be an a-hole and not given it back (think multi-21). Lando found a third option that was worse.
Lando's a good guy at heart, but he doesn't possess the grit to win championships consistently. Can he win one, sure, but he only does well when he's far in the lead and the race start goes well. Wheel to wheel he has a lot to learn mentally not to be bullied on track.
@adampetten5349 blowing multiple starts while on pole and failing to win in the fastest car by far or getting passed by his more aggressive teammate and failing to win. He was on pole a bunch and choked. Compare to Max who delivers wins from pole or wins from in the pack regularly and overachieves. Lando is fast but a choke artist when it matters
@@jasongibson3574 Overaggressive Oscar and Max. He was well past the start on many of those occasions. Oscar shouldn't have been trying that ham fisted attempt at Monza on anyone with Constructors at stake. The gearbox also caused one lost Pole. Oscar and Lando both had wheelspin issues at another race. There were a few races where the absolute Fantastic drivers of the big Seven- Checo was not there- were better. Great athletes beat other great athlete.
@@adampetten5349 getting squeezed off the outside line is racing buddy. The inside line owns the corner in every series of motorsport. End of discussion.
Mr Windsor, ever been tempted to contact Viaplay or Netflix to make a fantastic series about the history of F1? You know have so much to talk about and I would be the first to watch
Lando and George over Charles is criminal this season is criminal. Peter’s point about comparing Charles to Carlos is actually funny considering Ferrari made the car much more towards Carlos’ liking in the past 2 seasons. He gives Lando more credit for beating Oscar who fell off sharply towards this season in the fastest car on the grid and only winning 4 races and George who was battling Lewis who checked out mentally before the season even started than he gives Charles who was going against Carlos who was driving all out this season
All the Brits are just bashing on McLaren because it’s being run by an American, and many Brits “fancy” themselves superior and unable to accept Brown is leading them to incredible success.
Wrong way round. I think Norris owes McLaren an apology. The car was capable of winning the WDC and Norris bottled it. When you’re battling for a championship you need to be clear and strong and confident and decisive and someone the team can rally around. And Norris seemed incapable of motivating the team to believe in him and also relied too much on the team instead of taking matters into his own hands when it came to strategy etc. Lando has never seemed like a champion in waiting. He seems like an upper midfield driver who’s out of his depth at the front of the grid. As I believe there’s a saying that goes: “champions act like champions, before they become champions”. And Lando doesn’t seem like a champion or act like one.
@ By being a clear and effective team leader. That the team can trust and rally around and look to for motivation and guidance. Norris did none of that.
@ Nope. When teams are having a tough season they look to their lead driver for encouragement as they’re the standard-bearer of the team. As if the mechanics and engineers etc didn’t look to Lewis or Max or Schumacher etc when they’re having a tough season.
Good as Carlos is, i dont think he works well next to Max simply because Carlos is not interested in being a number two, he commands high salary and the team is clear that they are built around Max as their lead driver. The one team leader approach would soon be strained by tensions. And regarding Yuki, I fear people over play this idea that he has this massive fan base. In fact dare I say the majority ppl speaking now, couldn't be bothered about him last couple of seasons. They are probably more driven by their full-time criticism of Redbull and it's leadership. They just wanted something to hate on.
As far as I understand things Red Bull hasn'y made an offer to Sainz due to Sainz not wanting the second seat. Sainz was only willing to become a Red Bull driver when Max was leaving.
Peter did 10/7 you 'tecky' style😂 Picked up that Lando may actually learn to change his style; didn't think he would be able to, we'll see. Enjoyed and Great Christmas to all🎄🎄🎄👍
Windsor still crying about Lando Lol. Lando should apologise to McLaren for being a bottle merchant. Windsor thinks Ricciardo should still be at McLaren. Lol. Looking forward to his bleating when Piastri beats Norris next year.
I see your point. Norris bottled it to many times. So the team can't put all the card in his account. They have to play fair and let Piastri also grow. But i think next year Lando will still beat Piastri on the hole season... My opinion
@@hotdiggityd what flaws? McLaren had the perfect season, they won the championship, Norris would not have won even if they would invoke team orders more often (as Windsor himself calculated) and they have two great drivers within the ranks like no other team (we dont know what to expect from Lewis in Ferrari, and both RBR and Merc have rookies). Peter downplays significante of having two great drivers on the top team while praising Carlos in Ferrari at the same time. He's just mad at McL for not playing favourite for the Brit even though it would have been detrimental to the team. Piastri could easily move to any other Team (maybe apart from Ferrari) and he would if he had no shot for the championship at McL.
Cameron I've said it before but I love when you have Peter on. I love his channel and yours and together you are great. Any idea when you will have any merchandise for purchase. I would love to know Peters thought on the watkins glen circuit I live a hour away and theres always some noise about maybe formula one coming back. Have a Merry Christmas.
Peter really should talk about aero grip as well as mechanical grip. Higher min speed is more aero load + flatter car (less pitch) from more sympathetic breaking best for ground effect
To my surprise in this podcast ..when qualifing was the topic (Sainz versus Verstappen back in 2015).. there was no mentioning of Max not being so focussed on going for Pole Positions in the early years of his career. At least not as much as Charles and the others.. Max was quite fine qualifing 2'nd..3'rd or even lower. He was sure he could still win races without 'fine tuning' his qualifing untill..say... last 3 seasons.. Before..the main focus was on the long runs. They (RBR) were always more focussed on the Sundays..not so much on the Saturdays. Again..I'm a bit surprised that hasn't been picked up on. After his focus was also on fine tuning his qualifing sessions, that's when we say him taking them Pole Positions on a more regular basis too. At least more so than before. I might be wrong..but actually I'm pretty sure I'm not.. ..just saying.. 😉
Definitely wrong as max is obsessed with records like Vettel he could have been the youngest pole sitter also and Ricciardo beat him in quali he’s not that fast on one lap
Come on Cam Peter is still delusional in regard to Hungary. OP beat LN in to T1 and drove off and what did the Pit wall do? Pit LN first TWICE when OP ad earned the right to be pit first and all at a track well known for its large UC. Then there's LN's petulant sooky attitude when the PW said to slow down when he was cooking the tyres to which he replied tell Oscar to hurry up. Oscar was cruising at the delta set on the wheel ..
Real shame for PW to perpetuate the “Yuki is too emotional” line like it’s still 2021. Has Yuki ever flipped off another racer during a live session? Especially from an affiliated team? Yuki will always have more to prove his doubters
I watched this for 5 seconds and unfortunately I had to stop. I've had enough of this old relic and his Lando histrionics. I've had to stop listening to Peter in the past few months because the old bastard just can't let it go.
Thanks for your comment. I switched this on seeing the clips first I thought if this is going to be the same old BS where he goes on about when Lando had to let OP past at Hungary, and fkn rightly so after they pit LN first BOTH times when OP had pit rights to be serviced then I won't be watching..
For @peterwindsor. What is your background in Music Peter, you know a lot about music and the music on your channel is always interesting and quite sophisticated. (sorry for the off-topic)
yuki is too emotional but liam raced for 6 gp and beefed with 2 different drivers in that timeframe, crashed with one of them, impeded another, and threw up his middle finger to one of them in the middle of the race. but liam isn’t emotional at all and is very well regulated 😐
Peter is a Legend and he hasn’t got an ounce of bias. I however do not agree with his choice for Lando & George. Charles was better. Carlos is heavily underrated. Ferrari had the best driver pairing.
The idea that Lewis is just going to be chill and ok with Charles beating him I find fanciful. You don’t get 7 (or 8) world championships with that mentality.
Mr Windsor probably has no knowledge of the fact that things did not go well - at all - between the Sainzes and the Verstappens in that first year at Torro Rosso. It was so bad it was one of the big reasons to promote one of them to Red Bull. I know it's some time ago, and now they have not been teammates for a while, but as teammates, a lot was broken that year. Red Bull would not put them and their entourages in the same team again. It was all but a stable situation. I do think many people in the paddock know about this (I've heard Brundle, for example, refer to it a number of times as a reason why Sainz to Red Bull would be a no go). We hear more of this through Dutch (Jos and entourage) and German language media (Marko). Sainz has said in an interview (with Auto, Motor, und Sport) that the relationship in those early days should not matter in deciding on a Red Bull seat for him, as he would, but I don't think the Verstappen entourage would agree. They're like elephants. Nor would Red Bull care to take the risk. Thanks for all the great content you provide, Cameron!
Or you were not aware that Jos is doing Rally racing now and since Sainz Sr. is one of the greatest in Rally the talk a lot about Rally now and are actually good friends. I'm not bullshitting you, it's true.
@larsv701 Of course, I know that. And Sainz and Max also have an excellent relation now. That is not the point I'm making at all. They do not work as team mates, they are fine as is.......
@larsv701 I'll give you another example. Max, I'm sure, personally appreciates Checo very much. Also, at the time of Sao Paolo 2022, but on track, Monaco plays a bigger role. I'm sure, personally, Max and Russel get along very well, but I'm willing to bet George can still expect a reply to the happenings in Qatar. When you're not in competition, all is good.
Lando has never been championship material. In a competitive car it took him 6 seasons to win 1 race!! In his first 2 seasons he only had 1 podium!! Compare that to Max, when he got into a Red Bull, in his first season (came in for just 17 races), he had 1 win and 7 podiums. Some drivers have it, others don't!
Yes Peter is right; McLaren were so desperate for the constructors championship win after sucking so hard for so many years that they lost the drivers championship for Lando
Old Pete picking nando and George is British bias, norris was owned by Oscar in quite a few races in HIS 2nd year , old Pete didn't mention team orders by Macca...
Lando is a lot like the Honey Badger; he is a nice guy, but he doesn't seem to have the desire to win. It doesn't have to be at the level of the Red Baron (or Senna or Verstappen)
@@michaeldellorso889 and Charles had engine failure DNF in Canada, Sandwiched at lap 1 in Austria, inters on dry at Silverstone. That's 3 races he couldn't score out of his control compared to Carlos single DNS.
@@michaeldellorso889 Again that's not on him. He was ahead of Carlos in Canada before his engine gave up. Horrible quali comes from experimental setups he did to fix the car's bouncing issues. All while Carlos comfortably went back to old upgrades. Tire choice wasn't on him in Silverstone, they told him it was gonna rain soon and pitted him. What could he have done?
fault of drivers forcing him to avoid accidents. Oscar shouldn't have tried as risky a move as he did in Monza on Sir Lewis or Charles let alone a teammate. He's not going to be the finished article competing in the Upper Midfield for his career. 35 year old Hill made more mistakes in 1995...but Williams made even more. Brawn made Williams strategists look silly. McLaren strategists were also somewhat wanting.
I’m surprised Peter still harps on the “Yuki screams and shouts a lot” narrative. That’s something Yuki barely shows at all especially in 2023-24, he’s been super calm over the radio, a real team player and leader for Vcarb, everyone loves him in that team and his feedback is also nice. This 2021 narrative is just tiring to hear
Marko said no to Sainz not because of Carlos. It was because of the entourage of Carlos. They are very “present” and with quit a pose. Max has his dad present for a race or 6-7 a year, but Carlos’ pose is huge and they are there always and very “present”. Even during quali and the race
You've said this well. Every time I see his (I believe) his nephew on screen, filling the space with his aura and being everywhere on the place, I feel sorry for the mechanics and team management.
@@ariebroek2404 it’s pathetic
@@surgemeister182 it’s a choice and it has won and lost him opportunities. Carlos is great but was not a team player with Charles and Charles eventually was very vocal about it… do you want that for a second driver?
Quit a pose? HUH?😳
@@413TomaccoRoad Quite a Posse
Peter misses the point of Hungary. McLaren undercut Oscar where the lead driver gets priority. If they don't, you'll have drivers compromising strategy by undercutting each other. Should McLaren have defended against a Lewis undercut? Arguably, that wasn't necessary. What Lando should've done is just give the place back immediately and overtaken Oscar on track OR just be an a-hole and not given it back (think multi-21). Lando found a third option that was worse.
Lando's a good guy at heart, but he doesn't possess the grit to win championships consistently. Can he win one, sure, but he only does well when he's far in the lead and the race start goes well. Wheel to wheel he has a lot to learn mentally not to be bullied on track.
Lando should be thankful for such a great car and blame himself for not doing more with it. He choked on multiple occasions
No kidding. He seems to use the press pit as talk therapy. Full of self doubt and blame. Not the lion Max sees in the mirror.
Avoiding accidents is choking?
@adampetten5349 blowing multiple starts while on pole and failing to win in the fastest car by far or getting passed by his more aggressive teammate and failing to win. He was on pole a bunch and choked. Compare to Max who delivers wins from pole or wins from in the pack regularly and overachieves. Lando is fast but a choke artist when it matters
@@jasongibson3574 Overaggressive Oscar and Max. He was well past the start on many of those occasions. Oscar shouldn't have been trying that ham fisted attempt at Monza on anyone with Constructors at stake. The gearbox also caused one lost Pole. Oscar and Lando both had wheelspin issues at another race.
There were a few races where the absolute Fantastic drivers of the big Seven- Checo was not there- were better. Great athletes beat other great athlete.
@@adampetten5349 getting squeezed off the outside line is racing buddy. The inside line owns the corner in every series of motorsport. End of discussion.
Mr Windsor, ever been tempted to contact Viaplay or Netflix to make a fantastic series about the history of F1? You know have so much to talk about and I would be the first to watch
Lando and George over Charles is criminal this season is criminal. Peter’s point about comparing Charles to Carlos is actually funny considering Ferrari made the car much more towards Carlos’ liking in the past 2 seasons. He gives Lando more credit for beating Oscar who fell off sharply towards this season in the fastest car on the grid and only winning 4 races and George who was battling Lewis who checked out mentally before the season even started than he gives Charles who was going against Carlos who was driving all out this season
Zak ordered Oscar to move over for Lando for the final 7 races.
I enjoy Peter's insight except for his Norris biase it's completely irrational.
Thanks for the shoutouts about WRC. I haven’t really followed it since Petter Solberg, but I rate it highly.
All the Brits are just bashing on McLaren because it’s being run by an American, and many Brits “fancy” themselves superior and unable to accept Brown is leading them to incredible success.
If it wasn’t for the American, the McLaren F1 team may have left sport. How many years ago did McLaren basically had no sponsors?
Windsor thinks 20 year olds should idioliize a guy who won his races before grandma was born?
Wrong way round. I think Norris owes McLaren an apology. The car was capable of winning the WDC and Norris bottled it.
When you’re battling for a championship you need to be clear and strong and confident and decisive and someone the team can rally around.
And Norris seemed incapable of motivating the team to believe in him and also relied too much on the team instead of taking matters into his own hands when it came to strategy etc.
Lando has never seemed like a champion in waiting. He seems like an upper midfield driver who’s out of his depth at the front of the grid.
As I believe there’s a saying that goes: “champions act like champions, before they become champions”. And Lando doesn’t seem like a champion or act like one.
Did Kimi act like Max? Did Piquet act like Lewis? Did Schumi act like Damon? How does a champion act?
@ By being a clear and effective team leader. That the team can trust and rally around and look to for motivation and guidance. Norris did none of that.
@@gameofender4463 you're confusing a driver with a team principal.
@ Nope. When teams are having a tough season they look to their lead driver for encouragement as they’re the standard-bearer of the team.
As if the mechanics and engineers etc didn’t look to Lewis or Max or Schumacher etc when they’re having a tough season.
If Lando bottled it, then Oscar should be out of F1…
Good as Carlos is, i dont think he works well next to Max simply because Carlos is not interested in being a number two, he commands high salary and the team is clear that they are built around Max as their lead driver. The one team leader approach would soon be strained by tensions.
And regarding Yuki, I fear people over play this idea that he has this massive fan base. In fact dare I say the majority ppl speaking now, couldn't be bothered about him last couple of seasons. They are probably more driven by their full-time criticism of Redbull and it's leadership. They just wanted something to hate on.
As far as I understand things Red Bull hasn'y made an offer to Sainz due to Sainz not wanting the second seat. Sainz was only willing to become a Red Bull driver when Max was leaving.
A bit bizarre to say Charles had worse season than George and Lando because he had "off days" Lando and George had way more off days than Charles did.
Peter did 10/7 you 'tecky' style😂 Picked up that Lando may actually learn to change his style; didn't think he would be able to, we'll see. Enjoyed and Great Christmas to all🎄🎄🎄👍
Nando lost the championship ,it wasn't the team's fault , Windsor is cooked
Windsor still crying about Lando Lol. Lando should apologise to McLaren for being a bottle merchant. Windsor thinks Ricciardo should still be at McLaren. Lol. Looking forward to his bleating when Piastri beats Norris next year.
I see your point. Norris bottled it to many times. So the team can't put all the card in his account. They have to play fair and let Piastri also grow.
But i think next year Lando will still beat Piastri on the hole season... My opinion
Are people not allowed to point out McLarens flaws because it doesn’t suit your narrative?
No reason to think Ferrari car will be better next year? What? Pure nonsense. He knows nothing about next years car.
@@eliasbergsteigerausschwarz3654whole
@@hotdiggityd what flaws? McLaren had the perfect season, they won the championship, Norris would not have won even if they would invoke team orders more often (as Windsor himself calculated) and they have two great drivers within the ranks like no other team (we dont know what to expect from Lewis in Ferrari, and both RBR and Merc have rookies). Peter downplays significante of having two great drivers on the top team while praising Carlos in Ferrari at the same time. He's just mad at McL for not playing favourite for the Brit even though it would have been detrimental to the team. Piastri could easily move to any other Team (maybe apart from Ferrari) and he would if he had no shot for the championship at McL.
Always said some rally drivers could replace most of the slackers on the f1 grid, no way we have the worlds best pilots as per the sky f1 narrative
Cameron I've said it before but I love when you have Peter on. I love his channel and yours and together you are great. Any idea when you will have any merchandise for purchase. I would love to know Peters thought on the watkins glen circuit I live a hour away and theres always some noise about maybe formula one coming back. Have a Merry Christmas.
I don`t pay attention to rally driving. I should. Thanks for this!
There's more than one camera positon involved on Passats De Canto. There's no way 1 videographer could do that alone.
Peter really should talk about aero grip as well as mechanical grip. Higher min speed is more aero load + flatter car (less pitch) from more sympathetic breaking best for ground effect
Will watch this in a wee while gents! Merry Christmas both
Merry Xmas gentleman, sublime topics in this one❤
Oscar Jack cooks Norris next year mentally and on track
To my surprise in this podcast ..when qualifing was the topic (Sainz versus Verstappen back in 2015).. there was no mentioning of Max not being so focussed on going for Pole Positions in the early years of his career. At least not as much as Charles and the others..
Max was quite fine qualifing 2'nd..3'rd or even lower. He was sure he could still win races without 'fine tuning' his qualifing untill..say... last 3 seasons..
Before..the main focus was on the long runs. They (RBR) were always more focussed on the Sundays..not so much on the Saturdays.
Again..I'm a bit surprised that hasn't been picked up on.
After his focus was also on fine tuning his qualifing sessions, that's when we say him taking them Pole Positions on a more regular basis too. At least more so than before.
I might be wrong..but actually I'm pretty sure I'm not.. ..just saying.. 😉
Definitely wrong as max is obsessed with records like Vettel he could have been the youngest pole sitter also and Ricciardo beat him in quali he’s not that fast on one lap
Come on Cam Peter is still delusional in regard to Hungary. OP beat LN in to T1 and drove off and what did the Pit wall do? Pit LN first TWICE when OP ad earned the right to be pit first and all at a track well known for its large UC. Then there's LN's petulant sooky attitude when the PW said to slow down when he was cooking the tyres to which he replied tell Oscar to hurry up. Oscar was cruising at the delta set on the wheel ..
Real shame for PW to perpetuate the “Yuki is too emotional” line like it’s still 2021. Has Yuki ever flipped off another racer during a live session? Especially from an affiliated team?
Yuki will always have more to prove his doubters
He nearly hit his teammate on purpose on an in lap this season 😂
@ “live session”
@@Anvil35 proof of his excessive emotion
He was on his best behavior while under the promotion microscope. Now that his fate is sealed, the antics will resume with vengeance.
Didn’t he throw his toys out the pram and divebomb his teammate on a cooldown lap after the race had finished??
I watched this for 5 seconds and unfortunately I had to stop. I've had enough of this old relic and his Lando histrionics. I've had to stop listening to Peter in the past few months because the old bastard just can't let it go.
Thanks for your comment. I switched this on seeing the clips first I thought if this is going to be the same old BS where he goes on about when Lando had to let OP past at Hungary, and fkn rightly so after they pit LN first BOTH times when OP had pit rights to be serviced then I won't be watching..
what the hell do you trolls know more than he knows?
For @peterwindsor. What is your background in Music Peter, you know a lot about music and the music on your channel is always interesting and quite sophisticated. (sorry for the off-topic)
yuki is too emotional but liam raced for 6 gp and beefed with 2 different drivers in that timeframe, crashed with one of them, impeded another, and threw up his middle finger to one of them in the middle of the race. but liam isn’t emotional at all and is very well regulated 😐
Splendid! I had to go watch that WRC test, insane
It is bonkers eh!?
I’m grateful for the mistakes made. Keep wining Max. Keep taking advantage of all there errors.
Peter is a Legend and he hasn’t got an ounce of bias.
I however do not agree with his choice for Lando & George. Charles was better. Carlos is heavily underrated. Ferrari had the best driver pairing.
The idea that Lewis is just going to be chill and ok with Charles beating him I find fanciful. You don’t get 7 (or 8) world championships with that mentality.
Mr Windsor probably has no knowledge of the fact that things did not go well - at all - between the Sainzes and the Verstappens in that first year at Torro Rosso. It was so bad it was one of the big reasons to promote one of them to Red Bull. I know it's some time ago, and now they have not been teammates for a while, but as teammates, a lot was broken that year. Red Bull would not put them and their entourages in the same team again. It was all but a stable situation.
I do think many people in the paddock know about this (I've heard Brundle, for example, refer to it a number of times as a reason why Sainz to Red Bull would be a no go). We hear more of this through Dutch (Jos and entourage) and German language media (Marko).
Sainz has said in an interview (with Auto, Motor, und Sport) that the relationship in those early days should not matter in deciding on a Red Bull seat for him, as he would, but I don't think the Verstappen entourage would agree. They're like elephants. Nor would Red Bull care to take the risk.
Thanks for all the great content you provide, Cameron!
Or you were not aware that Jos is doing Rally racing now and since Sainz Sr. is one of the greatest in Rally the talk a lot about Rally now and are actually good friends. I'm not bullshitting you, it's true.
@larsv701 Of course, I know that. And Sainz and Max also have an excellent relation now. That is not the point I'm making at all. They do not work as team mates, they are fine as is.......
@larsv701 I'll give you another example. Max, I'm sure, personally appreciates Checo very much. Also, at the time of Sao Paolo 2022, but on track, Monaco plays a bigger role. I'm sure, personally, Max and Russel get along very well, but I'm willing to bet George can still expect a reply to the happenings in Qatar. When you're not in competition, all is good.
Lando has never been championship material. In a competitive car it took him 6 seasons to win 1 race!! In his first 2 seasons he only had 1 podium!! Compare that to Max, when he got into a Red Bull, in his first season (came in for just 17 races), he had 1 win and 7 podiums. Some drivers have it, others don't!
Lmaoooo Peter “it’s not techy”. Tough one, Cam
10-7 Windsor 😃
Thank you! 🎁
Seb Vettel new his F1 history
Yes Peter is right; McLaren were so desperate for the constructors championship win after sucking so hard for so many years that they lost the drivers championship for Lando
Lando should grovel at Brown/McLarens feet, thank his lucky stars he was even competitive this year - it surely wasnt his racecraft.
Stop talking about the community and getting techy
Peter is correct about leclerc.
Lanndo is not WC material. Piastri will become the McLarens No 1 driver.
Didn't podium till Monaco. Outqualified 20-4. Lando had fewer mistakes than a much older Hill in 1995.
what do you insignificant trolls know more than Peter does?
Max running scared of Carlos Saint? He doesn't like competition 😅
Old Pete picking nando and George is British bias, norris was owned by Oscar in quite a few races in HIS 2nd year , old Pete didn't mention team orders by Macca...
Carlos would get better race results in a Haas than a Williams but Haas is pretty close to Ferrari- relationship wise. Adios Ferrari...
Lando is a lot like the Honey Badger; he is a nice guy, but he doesn't seem to have the desire to win. It doesn't have to be at the level of the Red Baron (or Senna or Verstappen)
The max obsession is killing me, I can’t take it anymore 😭
How is a 70 point gap to Carlos and 18-6 in race h2h not dominating a teammate!!!!!
Carlos missed a race. If your numbers are correct, 17-6 and the pts would’ve been in the 60 range. 2.5 pts difference per GP. Not really domination
@@michaeldellorso889 and Charles had engine failure DNF in Canada, Sandwiched at lap 1 in Austria, inters on dry at Silverstone. That's 3 races he couldn't score out of his control compared to Carlos single DNS.
@ he was having a disaster in Canada anyway, had a horrible quali in Austria, and made a ridiculous tire choice in Silverstone
@@michaeldellorso889 would still score points
@@michaeldellorso889 Again that's not on him. He was ahead of Carlos in Canada before his engine gave up. Horrible quali comes from experimental setups he did to fix the car's bouncing issues. All while Carlos comfortably went back to old upgrades. Tire choice wasn't on him in Silverstone, they told him it was gonna rain soon and pitted him. What could he have done?
Lando will fail until he becomes an animal and refuse team orders
Now Cameron stop saying bullshit about isack now that Peter said how great he is and how irrelevant your take about him is.
Need fuller RUclips reference for the program recommended
I don't understand? 🤯😱😭
@ can the complete URL be posted ?
I think this is a take that will age poorly. Lando is not him and McLaren know it
Of couuse they owe. He's British..,
Windsor and I know how good Lando can be...will be.
Poor Cameron has done his best to diminish Lando! 50:44
I've been bigging up his racecraft all yr chap.
It's not my fault he can't convert.
Worthy criticsm if uask me.
fault of drivers forcing him to avoid accidents. Oscar shouldn't have tried as risky a move as he did in Monza on Sir Lewis or Charles let alone a teammate.
He's not going to be the finished article
competing in the Upper Midfield for his career. 35 year old Hill made more mistakes in 1995...but Williams made even more. Brawn made Williams strategists look silly. McLaren strategists were also somewhat wanting.
Maybe LeClair needs a new girlfriend. 37:22
😂 very true.
I’m surprised Peter still harps on the “Yuki screams and shouts a lot” narrative. That’s something Yuki barely shows at all especially in 2023-24, he’s been super calm over the radio, a real team player and leader for Vcarb, everyone loves him in that team and his feedback is also nice. This 2021 narrative is just tiring to hear
You must be insane, trying to torpedo Ricciardo on a cooldown lap is calm!?😂😂
@@joedutchnl3948that’s a one off (plus it was a lockup, even Yuki admits later if I recall correctly, there was no intent to harm).
Landos still a boy not a man
Hes not even the fastest at McLaren
Windsor really convinced me here that Sainz actually would have been the best driver to pair with Max. I simply hadn't seen it from that perspective
It's a good shout right?
What MAx and Liam have in common, is that none of them appears as likable persons
Liam is a failure, he is not WC material, but he think otherwise, and will definitely not be happy being No 2 driver.