Nah, at this moment in time, he looked down on her because of her "inferior class", but was still in love with her. It was when she gave him a lesson in his pride by pointing out his flaws and rejecting him that he was able to see the err in his ways
I understand what you mean but I don't think that's it. She was offended, amongst other reasons, because he confessed his love to her in spite of her connection to her ridiculous family. It's an insult to her family sure, but it's mostly an insult to her in this moment. It's like he's pitying her, "I love you, even though a big part of you is unlovable".
And expressed by Elizabeth without any vulgar profanity, screeching and baiting. A class act. A real lady. Why, oh why, can people not have this level of class and integrity today?
Kim Especially in women.....class politness and elegance is really required to be a true female....i think those qualities could force the most vulgar man to respect you...and that's why men don't respect women anymore.....be true ladies...
Kim Quinn : In order for ladies to treat gentlemen in a classy, ladylike manner, gentlemen MUST ALSO behave in kind. I have found that when I politely and respectfully decline unwanted advances from a man, he just ignores me or assumes that, because I ‘m being nice that they can be more persistent and “win me over.”
" I love you, but I hate your family and broke your sister's heart and will now repeatedly insult you during my proposal then act surprised when you reject me.”
@@Mo7amedIhab Actually, after the first meeting, he has been polite towards her, except now in his proposal, and behind the scene of her sister's unhappiness. She has been teasing him no end, though, and of course, like all the best gloomy YA heroes, that exactly made him want her.
In the regency era, it was considered ill-mannered to be overly passionate in speech like we are now. I think she played the part excellently because she was so calm in her reproach and executed it in such a way that it was a like a polite slap in the face. Ultimately, if she had done it in any other way he wouldn't have been able to take her seriously nor would he have listened.
@Lucy Rane absolutely true but I feel the more time goes by and human behaviour changes, the harder it is to relate to the faithful adaptations. There will be a time that this sort of behaviour is incomprehensible and unrelatable by future generations. Not without having properly studied history and society of the past anyway. So I fear any future adaptation is doomed to get more liberal. Just as the 1980 adaptation was even more faithful than this 1995 which takes some liberties too. But 1980 is so restrained and boring...
@@Lara__ idk I think the 1995 is pretty darn faithful tot he book. Reading the book and watching the movie series feels fairly identical besides a couple conversations cut for the sake of time and the addition of the wonderful lake scene. I don’t think things need to be modernized at all. Human emotions, love, enemies to lovers, all that stuff is timeless. That’s why we still praise classics and learn about Shakespeare and all that. There could be a small barrier with they way in which they speak or some social context of the time, but it’s not that hard to try and understand it. This movie was hilarious once you understand things about the time. And it’s interesting to learn about and be transported to another era.
My favourite thing about the proposal is before this when he paces around, sits down, gets up again and then stands over her blurting out his car crash of a speech. So subtle and yet SO funny! X
And this is the kind of speech that he gave after all those pacing and sitting down and getting up again. Imagine what he would've said if he just blurted out what he wanted to say without all those pacing and sitting and standing up during he must've revised his speech ten thousand times in his head. LOL Brilliant acting and brilliant writing.
I found it so hilarious while reading that scene in the book. How he "hurriedly" rushes in and asks if she's alright and then paces around the room for no reason and keeps sitting down and standing back up and she's just watching like..."uh..."
He needed a lesson , to be more humble , and she wasn't in love wit him yet . The relationship ripens when she discovers his qualities and when he comes to the rescue of her sister's honor. 😍
He likes her better when he meets the Gardner's as well. Because he can see she has family that, while working class and have improved their financial circumstances through their work- as Bingly's parents did- , aren't after using people to improve their status in life.
This story is pure comic genius. Darcy steers his friend away from one sister, convinced that she doesn't love the friend but at the same time falls in love with the other sister who actually doesn't care 3 straws about him. Then in order to have a chance of ever marrying her, Darcy ends up helping her crazy family, the very family he complains about in this speech. So funny!
No. Darcy tried to hide his involvement in helping The Bennets. He fixed what he broke bc he ruined a couple who was deeply in love. Then, he protected the reputation of the woman he loved by getting the youngest sister married. In Mansfield Park, another of Austen's books, the villain helps the heroine. Because he did it to make himself look good and make the girl feel obligated, Jane Austen makes sure to let us know that he is a jerk. Darcy had no gain but did it out of love and duty that is why he is the best.
"I must ask you to marry me. But first, let me just tell you how much more superior I am to you and how I hate your family and how I broke your sister's heart." Smooth, Darcy, real smooth.
It was a big misjudgment by Darcy, but also a misunderstanding on Lizzie's side. He's trying to explain to her that his love for her is so strong, it can overcome any resistance among his peers and even his own mind. Admittedly, he could've worded his proposal slightly better!
I don't understand who says this version lacks emotion... Look at their eyes! Their bearing! The tension in their voices! No amout of shouting could compete with that.
Completely agree. And they way in which they present themselves makes sense with their characters’ personalities and the time. There is so much subtlety that’s incredible. They really act multi dimensionally, not just by yelling at eachother. They use small gestures and pauses and their eyes
Excuse me this so perfect and very accurate to the book and period. If you are lazy reading the book and want to watch an accurate one, this is the best version they got. For once a good adaptation does not need to have too much emotion or too reactive (sure there is that but it dosen’t need to exaggerated) but well balanced. This is my opinion because I love this tv show version of pride and prejudice a lot
the people who say that are obviously young and watched chin actress keira gush her way as Lizzie Bennett and other crappy and unbelievavble modern versions.They maybe think that running in the rain and being tacky/loud emotionally is emotion.These actors are acting and letting the words speak for themselves.Also there was a whole social code in Jane Austen's time which required restraint and some degree of dignity in many situations.Words do not matter to some people any more which is sad
They both NAILED this scene. Colin Firth will forever be Mr. Darcy to me, and Jennifer will always be Lizzie. They were both so wonderful in this move n_n
Elizabeth: So you ruined my sister's chances at marriage and now want me? Darcy: How the hell did she find out? No matter, just go with it at this point. *lays out why they shouldn't marry but wants to anyways* Elizabeth: No. Darcy: How could she reject me?
The way he's taken aback, when she says "had you behaved in a more gentleman like manner"...brilliant acting by the whole cast! This series is perfection!
The fact that it was the first scene that they filmed together and that they barely knew each other at this point only shows how great actors they both are.
forse il regista voleva che si leggesse bene in faccia a Lizzie la frase " ma tu chi *sei ma chi ti degna di uno sguardo?! Piano con le confidenze, amico!!"
People like the 2005 version because it's more modern and polished. This isn't wooden acting. This is close to how people would convey emotions in the early 19th century. The actors in this adaptation did a brilliant job. Edit: can't believe this comment reached nearly 5k comments. 😂
Just A Leaf Keira's Elizabeth was too modern and too silly. She was giggling at random times and she came off bratty whereas Jennifer was more mature, more considerate and closer to how she is described in the book. If you look at the movie without the book she is all right as Elizabeth but i pay a lot of attention to the details and reading the book made me hate the film lol
I found Ehle's Elizabeth too mature and not 'lively' enough. Sometimes I think she comes off as arrogant, whereas Knightley's is more sympathetic. I think Knightley's portrayal captured her playfulness more, one of Elizabeth's most key traits. I think since Elizabeth is only 20, Knightley was the better casting, in terms of looks and charm. But still, both great adaptations and talented, beautiful actresses! I love them both!
After admitting that he separated Jane and Bingley, insulted Elizabeth and her family...he's genuinely surprised that Elizabeth turned him down. That's some aloof arrogance.
@@deliciouscolours You're quite correct. As much as I love Mr Darcy's portrayal, in reality, a truly pompous snob would remain pompous or return to being pompous after he modifies his ways temporarily to get the girl. But then I thought about it a bit, that what might be the difference between someone like Darcy and an actual jerk; the scene in which Lizzie and her uncle and aunt visit Pemberly, the workers praise him to the skies and tells them how humble, loyal, kind and honest he is. I think Darcy kept his guard up and maintained this unlikeable demeanour so that strangers stay away from him, probably an effect of losing both his parents at a very young age forcing him to be adultlike, and being a guardian to his baby sister who almost hooked up with Wickham because that fraudster was such a close family friend but after her inheritance. Man's got trust issues.
honestly Elizabeth's last comment is the best comeback. He goes all out about how she is inferior and how he naturally wouldnt be happy to be affiliated with her family who is beneath him. And then Elizabeth smacks him by saying he isnt acting at all like the gentleman he claims to be which shuts him up lol
People who look down on this version and claim that there is no real emotion clearly have no talent in reading people. The 2005 version might be more passionate by modern standards but for the record, shouting does not equal more emotion.
The 2005 version is a joke. It’s basically just a dumbed down summary of the book with rushed development and unnecessary drama made for the mainstream American audience.
People can like what they like but honestly I don't think the leads had chemistry in the 2005 version whereas here. U can just see it, how well they fit together and how much he loves her. Also in the 2005 the pacing is rushed and I get bored watching it
The 2005 version is meant for contemporary audiences. Whereas this version is meant for people who love Jane Austen's work. And the acting is superb. I just love how the actors let you catch a glimpse of their characters' passionate feelings, be they love or hate, through the veneer of restraint which people would feel compelled to show at the time. It feels so authentic.
@@vitraartist2622 You are so right. In the mini series they had so much chemistry that they even dated in real life, in the 2005 movie Lizzie (Keira Nightley) actually dated Mr Wickham for 5 years!
This is one of the most amazing things I’ve ever seen in my life. The use of language is absolutely art and magical. It is so incredibly romantic and you grow to love both of these characters so much. Best ever!
It's amusing to compare the proposals of Mr. Darcy and Mr. Collins. In essence, the message and underlying attitude are the same. Both are fully conscious of Miss Bennett's great good fortune in receiving an advantageous offer of marriage, and incredulous at her refusal.
Collins has something to gain from the marriage though. It will increase his claim on inheriting Longbourne, particularly if one of the girls should have a son before Bennett dies. He also thinks he is a serious catch and really believes Elizabeth is so lucky to have him. Darcy doesn't go on about how lucky he is to get such an offer from a rich man but rather about how they are from two different financial situations. ANd he knows afterwards that he brought the refusal upon himself. He loves Elizabeth whereas COllins just wants to marry a Bennett girl and she's the prettiest one left.
@@MsJubjubbird there may be cases of entails that allow the land to go to male grandchildren, but Longbourn's isn't like that... If it were, Jane would have already received at least one proposal (probably dozens, being beautiful, gentle AND rich) and there wouldn't be much of a story. Mr. Collins is the heir, and although he is annoying, his offer was generous. He didn't need to think about his cousins (and could, before or after being rejected, have chosen a less-friendly bride who would surely kick out the Bennet girls. He is a gentleman with a good income, even better prospects and no vices. He is not a bad catch and the Bennetd and Charlotte are lucky he is so principled and socially awkward.)
Yes, it is. She just sits there. Either she is trying not to laugh, or jump up and yell and scream. Her face blanches, flames, and then she's working out what to say, and how to deliver it well. She succeeds!
I remember reading this scene for the first time. I had not caught up on the signs that D'arcy liked her, and I felt completely what Elizabeth expresses, except in more young-teen-ish way. 😲😲😲 🤬🤬🤬
Gone are the days, when people were able to express the nuances of their feelings through the richness of language. In this case the English language. So edifying.
I love this comment section so much. It’s so nice to find other people who feel so passionately about period pieces and I’ve laughed so hard reading all your comments. My Mum was previously the only person who watched period dramas with me (I loved them so much I studied literature for GCSEs and A levels) and now we’re not on speaking terms and it’s been so nice to discover other people who love them as much as I do. Thank you all 🥺❤️❤️
Indeed. I would have accepted his proposal no matter what he had done to Wickham or Jane. He's so gorgeous. He could punch me in the face and I'd still accept his proposal.
I like that she can't get around her scruples. She has to be her father's daughter and consider him worthy. For the things he had done she didn't. He had to understand that her objections were heartfelt.
1:30 - 1:50 That type of breathing happens when you suppress strong emotions of sadness. That's some excellent acting there. 4:03 Also, his eyes at the very end T_T Colin is so good!
I like the way that this verion does not update or simplify the language. In the 2005 version they rush through their lines as if the director is holding a stopwatch yelling "Faster! Faster!". This verion really allows the atmosphere and emotions to develop.
YES! Exactly. I don't understand how they can talk so fast in that version.- and actually understand the conversion they are supposed to be having. I- also - felt like the director was just timing everything to be sure the movie only lasted 1/2 an hour. OK. Longer than that. But not much.
The script writing is excellent, this was one of the first costume drama's I watched when it was first screened on the BBC and I was captivated by the verbal dexterity of the characters. The elegance and subtle use of language in this BBC series is still superb .
The best thing about this scene is how controlled Elizabeth was. In the book, she was angry when he began speaking about the inferiority of her connections, but she remained silent until he had finished. Then, she 'felt herself growing more angry every moment; yet she tried to the utmost to speak with composure...' (Chapter 34) Elizabeth Bennet had great self-command, even while she felt justifiably angered by Darcy's proposal. And we also should remember that Elizabeth was initially flattered by Darcy's declaration of love. I think many people in the comments' section miss that part. '...she could not be insensible to the compliment of such a man's affection...It was gratifying to have inspired unconsciously so strong an affection...' This part-- Elizabeth's gratification-- is key to her later change of heart. Elizabeth was flattered, because she looked up to Darcy as her social superior, even though she disdained his arrogance and pride. He had, after all, dismissed her as 'tolerable'. To discover that he thought the opposite was a huge boost to her ego. After all, it was Jane Bennet who was considered the most beautiful of the Bennet sisters. So Elizabeth's later rejection must be seen in that light; even though her ego was flattered, she would not overlook the serious defects in Darcy's manner.
Thanks for passage in the book. I agree - but it must have been a total shock at first, as she really thought this man hated her and regarded her as dirt on his shoe, but when she had time to absorb it all, and establish some communication with him, it's likely it probably added to her change of heart over time.
I don't think she looked up to him, but she did know that he could get practically any girl/woman he pointed at, and that he was (obviously) very picky. So she knew it was flattering even if she despised him.
@@cnj67 I personally think she did look up to him. A few examples: 1)- At the beginning of the novel, the general opinion is that Darcy has a 'noble mien', which establishes him as a superior 2)- She told Charlotte Lucas that she would soon become afraid of Mr Darcy if she didn't start being impertient, because she feared his 'satirical eye' 3)- Elizabeth Bennet was embarrassed when her mother contradicted Mr. Darcy on the country being just as varied as the town and later, she feared that her mother 'should be exposing herself again' 4)- She stopped herself from laughing when Charles Bingley claimed he could think of nothing worse than Darcy on a Sunday evening when he had nothing to do, simply because she thought Darcy was offended by that remark 5)- She was amazed when Darcy asked her to dance at Netherfield: 'amazed at the dignity to which she was arrived in being allowed to stand opposite to Mr Darcy and reading in her neighbour's looks their equal amazement in beholding it.' 6)- The very tentative way that she went about probing for details about Mr. Wickham during the Netherfield Ball. She didn't confront him directly, and when he went red, she temporarily 'could not go on'. 7)- She was utterly mortified by her mother's loud plans during the Netherfield Ball, insisting that offending Mr. Darcy would not endear her to Mr. Bingley. 'For heaven's sake, madam, speak lower.' 8)- Her mortification at being seen by Darcy at Pemberley because it might look as though 'she had purposely thrown herself in his way again' and wishing she had been 'beyond the reach of his discrimination' I think Elizabeth Bennet was a bit of a paradox. She wasn't ashamed of not being as rich as Mr. Darcy, but at the same time, she was intimidated by him, avoided offending him herself, and was mortified when her family members offended him or embarrassed themselves. I don't think these reactions would make sense if she didn't see Darcy as a social superior, dislike or none.
Not just his manners, but the two substantial offences she charged him with. From her perspective, Darcy is not just ill-mannered; he is callous (ruining Jane's happiness, as well as Wickam's livelihood), dishonorable (ignoring his father's wishes regarding Wickam) and repulsively arrogant. (Of course, she was wrong about Wickam - I'm talking about her perception at this point in the novel.)
@@Musicienne-DAB1995 I don't know. I always saw those passages as normal respectful behaviour towards strangers. You don't have to look up to someone in order to treat them with politeness rather than disrespect. It just shows that she's a decent character.
This was the best “Pride and Prejudice” production EVER! I bought the whole series on VHS tapes. I think that’s what the now archaic tapes were called way back then. I still have them. Could watch this again and again and again.
Whoops typo there I think you meant to say 17th time? 😂 I laughed out loud in the theater when they referenced the BBC version of Pride and Prejudice, holy crap what a wonderfully specific and accurate line
Actually if you read the book Darcy is convinced that Elisabeth will say yes to his proposal. When Elisabeth nursed Jane at Bingleys place he actually thought to him self that he must try to not have to much to do with Elisabeth and thereby give her hope that he have designs on her. So he thinks that Elisabeth longs for and expects him to propose. Also he knows with his rank, wealth and status that it is a great honor to bestowe on her to propose to her. He cant imagine that anybody will turn him down and he is completely chocked that she refuses him. In his arrogance he has not noticed that Elisabeth, who is intelligent and is indepentent of mind, despices him. The character Elisabeth is said to be the first modern female lead. She do not behave and act like all the other young girls at that timeperiod. Girls was not raised to think for them selves, to have and express opinions. They where only allowed to talk about the weather and "small talk" topics. So Elisabeth is different because she makes her own mind up about what she thinks of people. She do not blindly accept bad manners on Darcy's side just because he is a noble and she is not. At that timeperiod, in the beginning of 1800, to marry for love was actually a new ideal and very uncommon. In the nobility you married for maintaining or hightning your status, preserving your land and producing an heir. To refuse Darcy and the economic stability he would bring was unheard of that time so Elisabeth makes a bold and unconventionell decision. She gives him a stern rebuff and shows Darcy, that despite his wealth and status, he is unworthy of her.
Darcy is not a noble though. He is part of the landed gentry, the same class Elizabeth belongs to. He's simply a LOT richer, plus she lacks a sufficient dowry and inheritance. Still, their social class is the same. Her "lack of connections" refers to the relatives of her mother, who is originally from a lower class (her father was an attorney). She married up basically.
Not sure it's true to say that girls weren't raised to think for themselves and were only allowed to discuss the weather and small talk. (Unless you have historic sources?) Also, marrying for love wasn't uncommon in the 19th century. Unattainable for many without money, but not uncommon.
All I want is someone to tell me that they love me despite my embarrassing family, lack of fortune, and their better judgment. Is that too much to ask?
This scene is brilliantly written and acted. Darcy's emotions change line by line, from anxiety to self-pity, smugness, anger, resignation, and then on his way to the door he decides to attack her personally. Colin and Jennifer manage to make this complex dialogue feel natural and tense.
"And I might wonder why with so evident a design to offend and insult me, you choose to tell me you like me against your will, against your reason and even against your character; was this not some excuse for incivility if I was uncivil?"
I just love this scene! I bought the DVD and have watched the film over and over again and the emotions these actors convey are always as strong. I find the whole cast of this BBC version is unbeatable !!
She's vastly prettier than the poor actress they cast to play Jane. The only casting misstep of the '95 miniseries: its Jane is downright homely compared to Lizzy. The 2005 one has the gorgeous Rosamund Pike and the 1940 version had the lovely Maureen O'Sullivan: both of whom gave their "Lizzys" a run for their money as to the looks department, but the 1995 one has a truly plain Jane playing Jane.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion... but anyone who prefers the newer 2005 version clearly didn't read the original novel, nor do they understand 19th century etiquette. I LOVE how restrained and understated this performance is... you can just tell they are both trying so hard to hold in their anger and maintain some semblance of civility. You can see their social graces chipping away, just a little bit. Just perfect. :]
Thats so true. I watched 2005 before read the book i love it. Then i read the book, and wish there was more acting in 2005 movie. Then i found 1995 version, and it is satisfied me . Now i love 1995 version even more. 2005 is too short errr.
MR DARCY: Forgive me. I hope you are feeling better. [Darcy walks past Elizabeth into the room without waiting for a reply.] ELIZABETH: I am, thank you. [Darcy turns to look at Elizabeth.] ELIZABETH: Will you not sit down? [Elizabeth sits in a chair and Mr Darcy uncomfortably looks at her, walks toward her, then turns and goes back to the mirror. Darcy turns to face her, and then sits in a chair, placing his hat on a tiny table. He folds his hands and looks at her. Elizabeth looks confused and curious. Darcy stands and walks to the corner before finally approaching her.] MR DARCY (panting): In vain I have struggled. It will not do. My feelings will not be repressed. You must allow me to tell you how ardently I admire and love you. [Elizabeth looks slightly down.] MR DARCY: In declaring myself thus, I am fully aware that I will be going expressly against the wishes of my family, my friends, and, I hardly need add, my own better judgment. [Elizabeth looks up at him.] MR DARCY: The relative situation of our families is such that any alliance between us must be regarded as a highly reprehensible connection. Indeed, as a rational man, I cannot but regard it as such myself, but it cannot be helped. [Elizabeth looks down, and her expression is slightly cross.] MR DARCY: Almost from the earliest moments of our acquaintance, I have come to feel for you a passionate admiration and regard, which, despite all my struggles, has overcome every rational objection, and I beg you, most fervently, to relieve my suffering and consent to be my wife. ELIZABETH: In such cases as these, I believe the established mode is to express a sense of obligation, but I cannot. [Darcy holds his breath, hands clasped behind his back.] ELIZABETH: I have never desired your good opinion, and you have certainly bestowed it most unwillingly. I am sorry to cause pain to anyone, but it was most unconsciously done, and I hope will be of short duration. [Darcy looks upset and walks over to the mirror. He turns back to face her.] MR DARCY: And this is all the reply I am to expect? I might wonder why, with so little effort at civility, I am rejected. ELIZABETH: And I might wonder why, with so evident a desire to offend and insult me, you chose to tell me that you like me against your will, against your reason, and even against your character. Was this not some excuse for incivility, if I was uncivil? [Elizabeth shakes her head.] ELIZABETH: I have every reason in the world to think ill of you. Do you think any consideration would tempt me to accept the man who's been the means of ruining the happiness of a most beloved sister? Can you deny that you have done it? MR DARCY: I have no wish to deny it. I did everything in my power to separate my friend from your sister, and I rejoice in my success. Towards him I have been kinder than towards myself. ELIZABETH: But it is not merely that on which my dislike of you is founded. Long before it had taken place my dislike of you was decided when I heard Mr Wickham's story of your dealings with him. How can you defend yourself on that subject? MR DARCY: And you take an eager interest in that gentleman's concerns! [Darcy walks to the opposite corner.] ELIZABETH: Who that knows what his misfortunes have been could help feeling an interest in him? [Darcy turns around and paces back to the mirror.] MR DARCY: His misfortunes. Yes, his misfortunes have been great indeed! ELIZABETH: And of your infliction. You have reduced him to his present state of poverty, and yet you can treat his misfortunes with contempt and ridicule. [Darcy tilts his head, his mouth open disbelievingly.] MR DARCY: And this is your opinion of me? [Darcy turns to her.] MR DARCY: My faults by this calculation are heavy indeed. [Darcy picks up his hat from the tiny table and walks toward the door. He stops to speak.] MR DARCY: But perhaps these offences might have been overlooked had not your pride been hurt by the honest confession of the scruples which had long prevented my forming any serious design on you. Had I concealed my struggles and flattered you. But disguise of every sort is my abhorrence. Nor am I ashamed of the feelings I related. They were natural and just. Did you expect me to rejoice in the inferiority of your connections? [Elizabeth stands up and faces her back to him.] MR DARCY: To congratulate myself on the hope of relations whose condition in life is so decidedly below my own? [Elizabeth turns back to face him.] ELIZABETH: You're mistaken, Mr Darcy. The mode of your declaration merely spared me any concern I might have felt in refusing you, had you behaved in a more gentlemanlike manner. You could not have made me the offer of your hand in any possible way that would have tempted me to accept it. From the very beginning, your manners impressed me with fullest belief of your arrogance, your conceit, and your selfish disdain for the feelings of others. I had not known you a month before I felt you were the last man in the world whom I could ever marry. MR DARCY: You have said quite enough, Madam. I perfectly comprehend your feelings. And now have only to be ashamed of what my own have been. Please forgive me for having taken up your time and accept my best wishes for your health and happiness. [Darcy bows and leaves without looking back. Elizabeth sighs and lowers her
I agree with you Kelwos, I think he delivers his lines perfectly. One can sense the excitement in his voice, in his eyes and he is a little breathless. It certainly looks like Darcy, the prefectionist that he is, must have studied his lines over and over the night before, or even weeks, before delivering such an important speech. I cannot find any fault with Colin's way of delivery. He absolutely nailed it right.
I think if D'arcy had thought the whole thing through, he may not have talked at length about how despicable her family is. I think he has thought about maybe the first two sentences, and the rest is what he has thought to himself, but he thinks himself so grand that nothing that comes out of his educated mouth can be wrong. He doesn't really see it from any other point of view.
@@pearlmode Nah. He proposes as someone who knows he is a catch and just presumes any unmarried woman will be doing her best to cast her snare on him. (Or how is the expression?) He is kind of admitting defeat, using the wording of polite courtship, but also not considering it a possibility that she has not hoped for this all the time. So it's like: "Okay, you got me. Even if you are a lowly almost-commoner with a despicable family, you mission was a success, and you have landed a more than wealthy catch. You can thank me later."
Remarkable proposal rejection scene. My favourite characters, my favourite Pride and Prejudice Adaptation. 25 years later and still remarkable. Both actors played quite well.
Wat een man ! Deze man krijgt mijn diep respect en bewondering . Een man die zijn hart laat spreken. Niet opgeeft, knokt voor waar hij in gelooft en oprecht van houdt. Niet ontkent maar erkent. Volwassen reageert en zijn verantwoordelijkheid neemt. Blijft en volhard
What a great scene. I still remember my English teacher pointing out that everything Mr. Darcy says about Elizabeth's family is true. Lydia's elopement and her parents' reaction further confirmed Mr. Darcy's assessment. This must have been source of great pain to Elizabeth and why she thought Mr. Darcy was lost to her forever. Although everyone knew Mr. Darcy is rich, it was not until Elizabeth saw Pemberley in person that she understood the chasm in their social status.
this is such a great scene!! the always compossed Mr. Darcy admitting passionate love and a struggle he cannot over come. And I can feel the passion coming from his eyes, his love and my favorite line "i beg you most ferverently to relieve my suffering and consent to be my wife" omg I would collapse if Darcy said that to me!!
I love how he totally thinks he's being romantic and decisive here. = 'YES, I've thought it through. I really mean what I say, and that is I love you!' turns into a complete insult.
Darcy was going for "The world is against us, but I love you anyways" but it came out as "I love you. and here are some reason why I shouldn't"
very well said x)
And I thought I understood all the deeper parts of the small parts. That's such a great insight - I hope I remember it.
That's the most sensible take I've ever come across
Haha: exactly how I feel about this scene. 🤣 Everything he says is true, but his confession is lacking of romantic delivery. 🤣
Nah, at this moment in time, he looked down on her because of her "inferior class", but was still in love with her. It was when she gave him a lesson in his pride by pointing out his flaws and rejecting him that he was able to see the err in his ways
Darcy: Due to unfortunate circumstances, I will now ask you to marry me.
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"Unfortunate Circumstances" That's what a girl need to hear 😂
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The worst marriage proposal of all time!
bruh i thought I had social issues, mans really insulted her, called her family embarrasing, and asked her to marry him in one sentence. what a legend
Aspergers?
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Then he attempts to change his mode of declaration, courts her, and proposes again, getting accepted. Darcy played the long game.
The guy is an idiot
dude was ahead of his time, he would fucking murder with american women, dude would have a god damn harem
I hope, somewhere, Jane Austen is able to see just how much happiness she brought to the world. Thank you Jane
To my mind, the best words that express our endless gratitude to Jane Austen !
Exactly
Amen
Yes yes yes 👏😭
Yes!
Darcy: *calls Elizabeth’s family embarrassing*
Elizabeth: never before have I been so offended by something I 100% agree with
Never before have I been so cracked up by something I 100% agree with such as this comment =))
not JUST embarrassing poor and friendless.
If you love your family really much, you would also be so blind.
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I understand what you mean but I don't think that's it. She was offended, amongst other reasons, because he confessed his love to her in spite of her connection to her ridiculous family. It's an insult to her family sure, but it's mostly an insult to her in this moment. It's like he's pitying her, "I love you, even though a big part of you is unlovable".
"The mode of your declaration merely spared me any concern I might have felt in refusing you had you behaved in a more gentleman like manner"
noueyxx true)
...and the key reason he goes on to try to amend his behaviour.
And expressed by Elizabeth without any vulgar profanity, screeching and baiting. A class act. A real lady. Why, oh why, can people not have this level of class and integrity today?
Kim
Especially in women.....class politness and elegance is really required to be a true female....i think those qualities could force the most vulgar man to respect you...and that's why men don't respect women anymore.....be true ladies...
Kim Quinn : In order for ladies to treat gentlemen in a classy, ladylike manner, gentlemen MUST ALSO behave in kind. I have found that when I politely and respectfully decline unwanted advances from a man, he just ignores me or assumes that, because I ‘m being nice that they can be more persistent and “win me over.”
Worst. Proposal. Ever.
And yet, we still love him...lol.
Lol honestly... he could've done better
Because u love bad boys
That's the brilliant acting
No. It was an exemplary proposal. Can’t imagine much better. Especially with the qualifications...
@@sirrathersplendid4825 The stiffness and brutality is mortifying and the timing nightmarish.
Darcy: Unfortunately, I like you.
Elizabeth: Umm... okay?
lol true
This is my usual plan to tell people when I like them as well. It has never worked, surprisingly.
Darcy: Also your family sucks
BASICALLY the sum up of this completely
Ride the Wave. Although considered blasphemy, in the zombie-version Elizabeth actually did😜
Darcy: it's not me, it's you
noueyxx 😂😂
Elizabeth: Funny, I was about to say the same about you.
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😆 Dang.
Hahahahaha this made me lol
" I love you, but I hate your family and broke your sister's heart and will now repeatedly insult you during my proposal then act surprised when you reject me.”
Hahahaaha
He's just being honest. It's his best and worst trait, really.
Lol...still my platonic love 😍😍😍
It's almost as if it's one of the central themes of the story.
@@markblaze10 No shit,Sherlock...
I'm inviting everyone in this comment section to take a turn with me around the room. It's so refreshing.
Haaaaahaaaaahaaaaa! *links arm*
There we go
Care to join us, Mr. Darcy?
Excellent notion! (Though not quite as refreshing as walking 3 miles to Netherfield and getting one's dress 6 inches deep in mud.)
Well only as a means to show off my figure. Let’s do this 👯
"Marry me you gross peasant"
lmfaooooo
Exactly!
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I literally laughed like an hour after reading this
What did he expect her to say? ”You had me at reprehensible”?
Real smooth Darcy
Lol 😆
Lol
Hahahaha love it
"What have I done to deserve your rejection?"
"You mean, in the last minute?"
in the last minute, or the previous 33 chapters?
Hahaha.🤣👍
Lizzie: do you want the short version or the Sparks Notes that I've compiled since I met you?
Darcy: " You're a common peasant, but you have bewitched me body and soul... and I love I love I love you"
Lizzie: "Fine then"😁
@@Mo7amedIhab Actually, after the first meeting, he has been polite towards her, except now in his proposal, and behind the scene of her sister's unhappiness. She has been teasing him no end, though, and of course, like all the best gloomy YA heroes, that exactly made him want her.
In the regency era, it was considered ill-mannered to be overly passionate in speech like we are now. I think she played the part excellently because she was so calm in her reproach and executed it in such a way that it was a like a polite slap in the face. Ultimately, if she had done it in any other way he wouldn't have been able to take her seriously nor would he have listened.
Colin Firth is the best in this film!!!!
Polite slap😂
honestly i feel like it's considered ill mannered for anyone who is British lol
@Lucy Rane absolutely true but I feel the more time goes by and human behaviour changes, the harder it is to relate to the faithful adaptations. There will be a time that this sort of behaviour is incomprehensible and unrelatable by future generations. Not without having properly studied history and society of the past anyway. So I fear any future adaptation is doomed to get more liberal. Just as the 1980 adaptation was even more faithful than this 1995 which takes some liberties too. But 1980 is so restrained and boring...
@@Lara__ idk I think the 1995 is pretty darn faithful tot he book. Reading the book and watching the movie series feels fairly identical besides a couple conversations cut for the sake of time and the addition of the wonderful lake scene. I don’t think things need to be modernized at all. Human emotions, love, enemies to lovers, all that stuff is timeless. That’s why we still praise classics and learn about Shakespeare and all that. There could be a small barrier with they way in which they speak or some social context of the time, but it’s not that hard to try and understand it. This movie was hilarious once you understand things about the time. And it’s interesting to learn about and be transported to another era.
My favourite thing about the proposal is before this when he paces around, sits down, gets up again and then stands over her blurting out his car crash of a speech. So subtle and yet SO funny! X
I arrived here looking for that very moment.
Car crash!LOL.For real. I can't look away.
And this is the kind of speech that he gave after all those pacing and sitting down and getting up again. Imagine what he would've said if he just blurted out what he wanted to say without all those pacing and sitting and standing up during he must've revised his speech ten thousand times in his head. LOL Brilliant acting and brilliant writing.
That one is here: ruclips.net/video/IGr8QbWY19s/видео.html
I found it so hilarious while reading that scene in the book. How he "hurriedly" rushes in and asks if she's alright and then paces around the room for no reason and keeps sitting down and standing back up and she's just watching like..."uh..."
he should have stop at "how ardently I admire and loved you." 😐
Wouldn't have been much of a story if she had just said yes now, would it?
He needed a lesson , to be more humble , and she wasn't in love wit him yet . The relationship ripens when she discovers his qualities and when he comes to the rescue of her sister's honor. 😍
and she sees Pemberley :D
J LP of course...hahahaha
He likes her better when he meets the Gardner's as well. Because he can see she has family that, while working class and have improved their financial circumstances through their work- as Bingly's parents did- , aren't after using people to improve their status in life.
...and I thought I lacked social skills...
Meritxell Riera Prims THERE IS STILL HOPE FOR US
HAHAHAHA
It's a shame really. You obviously meant this as a joke, but it's tragic how lacking he is. Imagine it from his perspective.
jane cumberbatch, as long as you are good looking and rich at least.
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This story is pure comic genius. Darcy steers his friend away from one sister, convinced that she doesn't love the friend but at the same time falls in love with the other sister who actually doesn't care 3 straws about him. Then in order to have a chance of ever marrying her, Darcy ends up helping her crazy family, the very family he complains about in this speech. So funny!
True love 🙂
Jane Austen was brilliant. It's sad that the world lost her so young.
I never thought about it that way, but you're absolutely right!
that's love to you. it makes you blind and would do anything to make your loved ones happy
No. Darcy tried to hide his involvement in helping The Bennets. He fixed what he broke bc he ruined a couple who was deeply in love. Then, he protected the reputation of the woman he loved by getting the youngest sister married. In Mansfield Park, another of Austen's books, the villain helps the heroine. Because he did it to make himself look good and make the girl feel obligated, Jane Austen makes sure to let us know that he is a jerk. Darcy had no gain but did it out of love and duty that is why he is the best.
"well this social situation isn't going the way I acted it out in the bath"
Well, the problem was, he didn't.
"I must ask you to marry me. But first, let me just tell you how much more superior I am to you and how I hate your family and how I broke your sister's heart."
Smooth, Darcy, real smooth.
Madison Lynn dis
Madison Lynn well said
Madison Lynn hahaha yeah
It was a big misjudgment by Darcy, but also a misunderstanding on Lizzie's side. He's trying to explain to her that his love for her is so strong, it can overcome any resistance among his peers and even his own mind. Admittedly, he could've worded his proposal slightly better!
rhysepoos Slightly?! Lol, that's a gentle understatement. 😉
darcy: marry me
elizabeth: no
darcy: *surprised pikachu face*
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No better expression of this. 😂
That's too funny
pika pika
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I don't understand who says this version lacks emotion... Look at their eyes! Their bearing! The tension in their voices! No amout of shouting could compete with that.
Completely agree. And they way in which they present themselves makes sense with their characters’ personalities and the time. There is so much subtlety that’s incredible. They really act multi dimensionally, not just by yelling at eachother. They use small gestures and pauses and their eyes
Excuse me this so perfect and very accurate to the book and period. If you are lazy reading the book and want to watch an accurate one, this is the best version they got. For once a good adaptation does not need to have too much emotion or too reactive (sure there is that but it dosen’t need to exaggerated) but well balanced. This is my opinion because I love this tv show version of pride and prejudice a lot
the people who say that are obviously young and watched chin actress keira gush her way as Lizzie Bennett and other crappy and unbelievavble modern versions.They maybe think that running in the rain and being tacky/loud emotionally is emotion.These actors are acting and letting the words speak for themselves.Also there was a whole social code in Jane Austen's time which required restraint and some degree of dignity in many situations.Words do not matter to some people any more which is sad
@@cattyelse2372 that version is so bad, it's like they did lines of cocaine and said do it faster, it's awful
There IS no other version. This is the only Pride and Prejudice. We do not speak of any others.
I love you, Elizabeth! Here's all the reasons why we SHOULDN'T be together!
smooth Darcy. Real smooth.
not working class...didnt exist then
😄 😄 😄 - Good one mate !
He just wants to express how hard he made such a decision and how deep he loves Elizabeth. But definitely a textbook of failure 😂 by laughing cat 🐶
Hes not a bitch, he's just a Capricorn. 😋
They both NAILED this scene. Colin Firth will forever be Mr. Darcy to me, and Jennifer will always be Lizzie. They were both so wonderful in this move n_n
willingtofight they’re both equally amazing!
This is a true classic. They wrote history here.
Lotus Kamala - Exactly, Jane Austen may have wrote it but Jenny and Colin etched it in our hearts.
How many Darcy’s has Colin Firth been already? I swear almost every movie I watch that he is in it as a main character his surname is Darcy
Yes, they were perfectly cast!
DARCY: I hate you and your family, but I love you. Marry me?
DARCY: Why would you say no?
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Elizabeth: So you ruined my sister's chances at marriage and now want me?
Darcy: How the hell did she find out? No matter, just go with it at this point. *lays out why they shouldn't marry but wants to anyways*
Elizabeth: No.
Darcy: How could she reject me?
Read this book when I was 13... Still single at 35. Damn you Darcy 😂
I'm sure you'll meet your Mr. Wickam
Damn you, Jane Austen 😂 Teaching is to never settle...
Or mr. Collins
I was a bit younger than 13 but the story has always been a favourite .
I hear you. Read it at 14 and fell hook line and sinker... The romance of all romances.
The way he's taken aback, when she says "had you behaved in a more gentleman like manner"...brilliant acting by the whole cast! This series is perfection!
Perfect
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His eyes!!Colin speaks with his eyes!The best Darcy ever!
NoSunToday i know right!!!!
He’s got brooding down to a science.
So true, my gaze is absolutely glued to his...
@@theL81Again I would love to see him play Heathcliff in wuthering Heights. Most Brooding role of all time.
Oh, I nearly forgot his name is Colin and got it all mixed up with Collin ... "Speaks with his eyes", WTF? 😂😂
The fact that it was the first scene that they filmed together and that they barely knew each other at this point only shows how great actors they both are.
forse il regista voleva che si leggesse bene in faccia a Lizzie la frase " ma tu chi *sei ma chi ti degna di uno sguardo?! Piano con le confidenze, amico!!"
Also why they hooked up.
@@lizziebkennedy7505 wait dead ass? 💀
@@Scarlet-st5qsyep, they were dating / hooking up during filming. It makes sense why their scenes were electric
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he is soooo clueless, he tells her he loves her while insulting her!
I know lol! It's like a pretty insult.
Better than Mr Collins
Marianita Bustos After this proposal Lizzie was probably like: What is it that makes men always insult me when they propose to me??
Marianita Bustos It's called negging. Darcy's the original PUA.
Marianita Bustos lol so mad
People like the 2005 version because it's more modern and polished. This isn't wooden acting. This is close to how people would convey emotions in the early 19th century. The actors in this adaptation did a brilliant job.
Edit: can't believe this comment reached nearly 5k comments. 😂
Modern (dumbed down) polished (artificial)
I know a guy who thought Keira Knightly was the best Elizabeth Bennett, but I believe Jennifer Ehle just nailed it.
that guy is clueless
Just A Leaf Keira's Elizabeth was too modern and too silly. She was giggling at random times and she came off bratty whereas Jennifer was more mature, more considerate and closer to how she is described in the book. If you look at the movie without the book she is all right as Elizabeth but i pay a lot of attention to the details and reading the book made me hate the film lol
I found Ehle's Elizabeth too mature and not 'lively' enough. Sometimes I think she comes off as arrogant, whereas Knightley's is more sympathetic. I think Knightley's portrayal captured her playfulness more, one of Elizabeth's most key traits. I think since Elizabeth is only 20, Knightley was the better casting, in terms of looks and charm. But still, both great adaptations and talented, beautiful actresses! I love them both!
This version is the best adaptation. I don't remember, how many times I watched it. Elizabeth is a strong women character.
I like her very much. There is a mix of faults and qualities with characters of both genders here.
She's like every other aunt I have lol. No difference at all
hii do you perhaps know where to watch the full series with english subtitle?
After admitting that he separated Jane and Bingley, insulted Elizabeth and her family...he's genuinely surprised that Elizabeth turned him down. That's some aloof arrogance.
Yes, and in real life this would probably be how he would behave throughout the marriage.
@@deliciouscolours You're quite correct. As much as I love Mr Darcy's portrayal, in reality, a truly pompous snob would remain pompous or return to being pompous after he modifies his ways temporarily to get the girl.
But then I thought about it a bit, that what might be the difference between someone like Darcy and an actual jerk; the scene in which Lizzie and her uncle and aunt visit Pemberly, the workers praise him to the skies and tells them how humble, loyal, kind and honest he is. I think Darcy kept his guard up and maintained this unlikeable demeanour so that strangers stay away from him, probably an effect of losing both his parents at a very young age forcing him to be adultlike, and being a guardian to his baby sister who almost hooked up with Wickham because that fraudster was such a close family friend but after her inheritance. Man's got trust issues.
@@RealTalkWithSSG I hadn't thought about that, it's true that the workers spoke very highly of him, and that does say a lot.
@@deliciouscolours :)
But first she rejects him and says get well soon 😋 then he gets defensive about his tactics because he thinks he was a true friend
She delivers that last line so well! You can see the defeat on his face. I love it!
Serves him right
"You are the last man in the world I could ever marry"
*'turn down for what' starts plays on blast*
starcasters HAHAHAHAHAHAH
Who ever plays Mr Darcy will always be judged by how Colin Firth nailed him in this show
Colin Firth IS Mr. Darcy. Impeccably well done scene between he and Jennifer Ehl. Best book to film adaptation out there.
yes!!!!
@@FrancescaEleonora meh. I'm much more a fan of MacFayden
@P C Mr Darcy in the newest Pride and Prejudice with Keira Knightley
@P C you're more than welcome to be wrong
@P C you're right about not everyone having good taste 😂
If he'd just stopped at "how ardently I love and respect you" the book could've been a lot shorter 😂
Elizabeth says that if he had been more polite she would have rejected him more gently but still rejected him
She would have still turned him down.
"I want to marry you even though we both know you're beneath me" Way to go Darcy!
honestly Elizabeth's last comment is the best comeback. He goes all out about how she is inferior and how he naturally wouldnt be happy to be affiliated with her family who is beneath him. And then Elizabeth smacks him by saying he isnt acting at all like the gentleman he claims to be which shuts him up lol
And later, Darcy reveals that that was one of the lines which had tortured him the most.
ANd keeps him awake for a long time!
I once got proposed to over text by a man I hadn't ever even been on a date with. Also, his mom and two sisters absolutely hate me. I believe I win 😂
Jennifer Ehle is amazing, even better than Colin Firth. She perfectly captures Elizabeth's feistiness and independence.
soxnation1000 amen! She was the whole show to me.
People who look down on this version and claim that there is no real emotion clearly have no talent in reading people. The 2005 version might be more passionate by modern standards but for the record, shouting does not equal more emotion.
The 2005 version is a joke. It’s basically just a dumbed down summary of the book with rushed development and unnecessary drama made for the mainstream American audience.
People can like what they like but honestly I don't think the leads had chemistry in the 2005 version whereas here. U can just see it, how well they fit together and how much he loves her. Also in the 2005 the pacing is rushed and I get bored watching it
The 2005 version is meant for contemporary audiences. Whereas this version is meant for people who love Jane Austen's work. And the acting is superb. I just love how the actors let you catch a glimpse of their characters' passionate feelings, be they love or hate, through the veneer of restraint which people would feel compelled to show at the time. It feels so authentic.
To me this is the only version the other ones are not worth watching that's just my opinion I love mr. Darcy
@@vitraartist2622 You are so right. In the mini series they had so much chemistry that they even dated in real life, in the 2005 movie Lizzie (Keira Nightley) actually dated Mr Wickham for 5 years!
This is one of the most amazing things I’ve ever seen in my life. The use of language is absolutely art and magical. It is so incredibly romantic and you grow to love both of these characters so much. Best ever!
read her novels they are magical and transport you into a different time altogether
0:50 - Never in all my years have I seen a face that said "I am about to end this man's career" with such clarity and vigour.
It's amusing to compare the proposals of Mr. Darcy and Mr. Collins. In essence, the message and underlying attitude are the same. Both are fully conscious of Miss Bennett's great good fortune in receiving an advantageous offer of marriage, and incredulous at her refusal.
Collins has something to gain from the marriage though. It will increase his claim on inheriting Longbourne, particularly if one of the girls should have a son before Bennett dies. He also thinks he is a serious catch and really believes Elizabeth is so lucky to have him. Darcy doesn't go on about how lucky he is to get such an offer from a rich man but rather about how they are from two different financial situations. ANd he knows afterwards that he brought the refusal upon himself. He loves Elizabeth whereas COllins just wants to marry a Bennett girl and she's the prettiest one left.
Interesting comparison
@@MsJubjubbird there may be cases of entails that allow the land to go to male grandchildren, but Longbourn's isn't like that... If it were, Jane would have already received at least one proposal (probably dozens, being beautiful, gentle AND rich) and there wouldn't be much of a story. Mr. Collins is the heir, and although he is annoying, his offer was generous. He didn't need to think about his cousins (and could, before or after being rejected, have chosen a less-friendly bride who would surely kick out the Bennet girls. He is a gentleman with a good income, even better prospects and no vices. He is not a bad catch and the Bennetd and Charlotte are lucky he is so principled and socially awkward.)
@@MsJubjubbird yes, and mr. Darcy is really no better, because he thought she would leap at his proposal, too.
Very true, although the key difference is that Elizabeth believed Darcy had genuine feelings for her-- unlike Mr. Collins.
Mr. Darcy has brought his shovel, and he is prepared to dig. The shot of Lizzy's unimpressed blank stare as he babbles on is everything.
Yes, it is. She just sits there. Either she is trying not to laugh, or jump up and yell and scream. Her face blanches, flames, and then she's working out what to say, and how to deliver it well. She succeeds!
I remember reading this scene for the first time. I had not caught up on the signs that D'arcy liked her, and I felt completely what Elizabeth expresses, except in more young-teen-ish way.
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It is a truth universally acknowledged that I must watch this video once every two months
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Gone are the days, when people were able to express the nuances of their feelings through the richness of language. In this case the English language. So edifying.
True. Modern evolution of languages makes them impoverished.
True.
I love this comment section so much. It’s so nice to find other people who feel so passionately about period pieces and I’ve laughed so hard reading all your comments. My Mum was previously the only person who watched period dramas with me (I loved them so much I studied literature for GCSEs and A levels) and now we’re not on speaking terms and it’s been so nice to discover other people who love them as much as I do. Thank you all 🥺❤️❤️
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Hope you are able to patch it up with your mom.
Thank you, too. 😊😊😊
Would you like to walk around the room with me?
Yes🥰
It’s just amazing to see the two actors delivering such well-constructed lines with real passion and emotions.
But can we just take a moment to say how unbelievably handsome Colin Firth is as Mr. Darcy? Sigh... :)
Indeed. I would have accepted his proposal no matter what he had done to Wickham or Jane. He's so gorgeous. He could punch me in the face and I'd still accept his proposal.
I like that she can't get around her scruples. She has to be her father's daughter and consider him worthy. For the things he had done she didn't. He had to understand that her objections were heartfelt.
Right? That modern Darcy is nowhere near this one 😍
Actors usually have nice voices. Firth sounds like he has ill-fitting dentures. It doesn't seem to matter though. He doesn't say much anyway.
1:30 - 1:50 That type of breathing happens when you suppress strong emotions of sadness. That's some excellent acting there. 4:03 Also, his eyes at the very end T_T Colin is so good!
Both Colin Firth and Jennifer Ehle are extraordinary actors and their performance of Darcy and Lizzy is the best ever!
I like the way that this verion does not update or simplify the language. In the 2005 version they rush through their lines as if the director is holding a stopwatch yelling "Faster! Faster!". This verion really allows the atmosphere and emotions to develop.
YES! Exactly. I don't understand how they can talk so fast in that version.- and actually understand the conversion they are supposed to be having. I- also - felt like the director was just timing everything to be sure the movie only lasted 1/2 an hour. OK. Longer than that.
But not much.
@@historybuff9926 Good novels need miniseries.
Thank you, BBC.
The script writing is excellent, this was one of the first costume drama's I watched when it was first screened on the BBC and I was captivated by the verbal dexterity of the characters. The elegance and subtle use of language in this BBC series is still superb .
The best thing about this scene is how controlled Elizabeth was. In the book, she was angry when he began speaking about the inferiority of her connections, but she remained silent until he had finished. Then, she 'felt herself growing more angry every moment; yet she tried to the utmost to speak with composure...' (Chapter 34) Elizabeth Bennet had great self-command, even while she felt justifiably angered by Darcy's proposal.
And we also should remember that Elizabeth was initially flattered by Darcy's declaration of love. I think many people in the comments' section miss that part. '...she could not be insensible to the compliment of such a man's affection...It was gratifying to have inspired unconsciously so strong an affection...' This part-- Elizabeth's gratification-- is key to her later change of heart.
Elizabeth was flattered, because she looked up to Darcy as her social superior, even though she disdained his arrogance and pride. He had, after all, dismissed her as 'tolerable'. To discover that he thought the opposite was a huge boost to her ego. After all, it was Jane Bennet who was considered the most beautiful of the Bennet sisters. So Elizabeth's later rejection must be seen in that light; even though her ego was flattered, she would not overlook the serious defects in Darcy's manner.
Thanks for passage in the book. I agree - but it must have been a total shock at first, as she really thought this man hated her and regarded her as dirt on his shoe, but when she had time to absorb it all, and establish some communication with him, it's likely it probably added to her change of heart over time.
I don't think she looked up to him, but she did know that he could get practically any girl/woman he pointed at, and that he was (obviously) very picky.
So she knew it was flattering even if she despised him.
@@cnj67 I personally think she did look up to him. A few examples:
1)- At the beginning of the novel, the general opinion is that Darcy has a 'noble mien', which establishes him as a superior
2)- She told Charlotte Lucas that she would soon become afraid of Mr Darcy if she didn't start being impertient, because she feared his 'satirical eye'
3)- Elizabeth Bennet was embarrassed when her mother contradicted Mr. Darcy on the country being just as varied as the town and later, she feared that her mother 'should be exposing herself again'
4)- She stopped herself from laughing when Charles Bingley claimed he could think of nothing worse than Darcy on a Sunday evening when he had nothing to do, simply because she thought Darcy was offended by that remark
5)- She was amazed when Darcy asked her to dance at Netherfield: 'amazed at the dignity to which she was arrived in being allowed to stand opposite to Mr Darcy and reading in her neighbour's looks their equal amazement in beholding it.'
6)- The very tentative way that she went about probing for details about Mr. Wickham during the Netherfield Ball. She didn't confront him directly, and when he went red, she temporarily 'could not go on'.
7)- She was utterly mortified by her mother's loud plans during the Netherfield Ball, insisting that offending Mr. Darcy would not endear her to Mr. Bingley. 'For heaven's sake, madam, speak lower.'
8)- Her mortification at being seen by Darcy at Pemberley because it might look as though 'she had purposely thrown herself in his way again' and wishing she had been 'beyond the reach of his discrimination'
I think Elizabeth Bennet was a bit of a paradox. She wasn't ashamed of not being as rich as Mr. Darcy, but at the same time, she was intimidated by him, avoided offending him herself, and was mortified when her family members offended him or embarrassed themselves. I don't think these reactions would make sense if she didn't see Darcy as a social superior, dislike or none.
Not just his manners, but the two substantial offences she charged him with. From her perspective, Darcy is not just ill-mannered; he is callous (ruining Jane's happiness, as well as Wickam's livelihood), dishonorable (ignoring his father's wishes regarding Wickam) and repulsively arrogant.
(Of course, she was wrong about Wickam - I'm talking about her perception at this point in the novel.)
@@Musicienne-DAB1995 I don't know. I always saw those passages as normal respectful behaviour towards strangers. You don't have to look up to someone in order to treat them with politeness rather than disrespect. It just shows that she's a decent character.
This was the best “Pride and Prejudice” production EVER! I bought the whole series on VHS tapes. I think that’s what the now archaic tapes were called way back then. I still have them. Could watch this again and again and again.
This barbie is going to watch BBC's pride and prejudice for the seventh time until she falls asleep
anxiety, panic attacks, and ocds are sold separately
That was the greatest part in the whole Barbie movie, and that's saying a lot. It was too real 😅
Whoops typo there I think you meant to say 17th time? 😂
I laughed out loud in the theater when they referenced the BBC version of Pride and Prejudice, holy crap what a wonderfully specific and accurate line
Great
Both adaptations are good for different reasons
This one for being extremely faithful to the book
and the 2005 one... oh, the 2005 for being magical
exactly.
Love love love the 2005 one!!!!
P C the ambience the director created it is so beautifully done
It calms me to watch that movie
Oh... Failed to see the magic, sadly. Was just too obsessed with the mini-series that the movie felt so overly dramatic and rushed
Actually if you read the book Darcy is convinced that Elisabeth will say yes to his proposal. When Elisabeth nursed Jane at Bingleys place he actually thought to him self that he must try to not have to much to do with Elisabeth and thereby give her hope that he have designs on her. So he thinks that Elisabeth longs for and expects him to propose. Also he knows with his rank, wealth and status that it is a great honor to bestowe on her to propose to her. He cant imagine that anybody will turn him down and he is completely chocked that she refuses him. In his arrogance he has not noticed that Elisabeth, who is intelligent and is indepentent of mind, despices him. The character Elisabeth is said to be the first modern female lead. She do not behave and act like all the other young girls at that timeperiod. Girls was not raised to think for them selves, to have and express opinions. They where only allowed to talk about the weather and "small talk" topics. So Elisabeth is different because she makes her own mind up about what she thinks of people. She do not blindly accept bad manners on Darcy's side just because he is a noble and she is not. At that timeperiod, in the beginning of 1800, to marry for love was actually a new ideal and very uncommon. In the nobility you married for maintaining or hightning your status, preserving your land and producing an heir. To refuse Darcy and the economic stability he would bring was unheard of that time so Elisabeth makes a bold and unconventionell decision. She gives him a stern rebuff and shows Darcy, that despite his wealth and status, he is unworthy of her.
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Darcy is not a noble though. He is part of the landed gentry, the same class Elizabeth belongs to. He's simply a LOT richer, plus she lacks a sufficient dowry and inheritance. Still, their social class is the same. Her "lack of connections" refers to the relatives of her mother, who is originally from a lower class (her father was an attorney). She married up basically.
jane austen was an Elizabeth you see :) she portraits her own thoughts onto her heroine
Not sure it's true to say that girls weren't raised to think for themselves and were only allowed to discuss the weather and small talk. (Unless you have historic sources?) Also, marrying for love wasn't uncommon in the 19th century. Unattainable for many without money, but not uncommon.
@@markc1234golf I remember reading somewhere that she actually related most to Mr. Bennet, the satirical loner who just watches from the distance.
All I want is someone to tell me that they love me despite my embarrassing family, lack of fortune, and their better judgment. Is that too much to ask?
worst declaration of love, but when he proposes at the end.. it feels so good, it's like "FINALLY"
This scene is brilliantly written and acted. Darcy's emotions change line by line, from anxiety to self-pity, smugness, anger, resignation, and then on his way to the door he decides to attack her personally. Colin and Jennifer manage to make this complex dialogue feel natural and tense.
The most iconic romance ever written! I could watch P&P over and over! This was the best version hands down!
"And I might wonder why with so evident a design to offend and insult me, you choose to tell me you like me against your will, against your reason and even against your character; was this not some excuse for incivility if I was uncivil?"
Darcy : *insults elizabeth and her family and proposes*
Elizabeth: I am gonna end this man's whole career!
I just love this scene! I bought the DVD and have watched the film over and over again and the emotions these actors convey are always as strong. I find the whole cast of this BBC version is unbeatable !!
And BBC utilization of the novel as it was told really authenticates this version as the best! The casting was perfectly done, as well.
for my opinion she is more beautiful than her oldest sister.
Beauty changes with the eras.
She is by modern standards, but if you look at Regency-Era portraits, you'll see a lot of similarities with the woman cast as Jane.
She was supposed to play Jane
She's vastly prettier than the poor actress they cast to play Jane. The only casting misstep of the '95 miniseries: its Jane is downright homely compared to Lizzy. The 2005 one has the gorgeous Rosamund Pike and the 1940 version had the lovely Maureen O'Sullivan: both of whom gave their "Lizzys" a run for their money as to the looks department, but the 1995 one has a truly plain Jane playing Jane.
This version is absolutely perfect!
This version is the best one ever.
AGREE
My favourite book , and these two were perfect as Lizzie and Darcy , love it
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion... but anyone who prefers the newer 2005 version clearly didn't read the original novel, nor do they understand 19th century etiquette. I LOVE how restrained and understated this performance is... you can just tell they are both trying so hard to hold in their anger and maintain some semblance of civility. You can see their social graces chipping away, just a little bit. Just perfect. :]
Thats so true. I watched 2005 before read the book i love it. Then i read the book, and wish there was more acting in 2005 movie. Then i found 1995 version, and it is satisfied me . Now i love 1995 version even more. 2005 is too short errr.
How she looks so sad as he declares his love for her while rebuking her family, friends and connections, and social status is quite touching.
I love this version of P &P. I watch the series repeatedly and just never tire of it .
Don’t forget the perfect casting of Mr Collins too !
Lady de Bourgh’s showdown with Elizabeth in the garden at the Bennett home regarding the engagement was priceless.
@@sharonozvenom Absolutely brilliant.
My God this scene is intense!
Brilliant and perfect acting indeed!
MR DARCY: Forgive me. I hope you are feeling better.
[Darcy walks past Elizabeth into the room without waiting for a reply.] ELIZABETH: I am, thank you.
[Darcy turns to look at Elizabeth.]
ELIZABETH: Will you not sit down?
[Elizabeth sits in a chair and Mr Darcy uncomfortably looks at her, walks toward her, then turns and goes back to the mirror. Darcy turns to face her, and then sits in a chair, placing his hat on a tiny table. He folds his hands and looks at her. Elizabeth looks confused and curious. Darcy stands and walks to the corner before finally approaching her.]
MR DARCY (panting): In vain I have struggled. It will not do. My feelings will not be repressed. You must allow me to tell you how ardently I admire and love you.
[Elizabeth looks slightly down.]
MR DARCY: In declaring myself thus, I am fully aware that I will be going expressly against the wishes of my family, my friends, and, I hardly need add, my own better judgment.
[Elizabeth looks up at him.]
MR DARCY: The relative situation of our families is such that any alliance between us must be regarded as a highly reprehensible connection. Indeed, as a rational man, I cannot but regard it as such myself, but it cannot be helped.
[Elizabeth looks down, and her expression is slightly cross.]
MR DARCY: Almost from the earliest moments of our acquaintance, I have come to feel for you a passionate admiration and regard, which, despite all my struggles, has overcome every rational objection, and I beg you, most fervently, to relieve my suffering and consent to be my wife.
ELIZABETH: In such cases as these, I believe the established mode is to express a sense of obligation, but I cannot.
[Darcy holds his breath, hands clasped behind his back.]
ELIZABETH: I have never desired your good opinion, and you have certainly bestowed it most unwillingly. I am sorry to cause pain to anyone, but it was most unconsciously done, and I hope will be of short duration.
[Darcy looks upset and walks over to the mirror. He turns back to face her.]
MR DARCY: And this is all the reply I am to expect? I might wonder why, with so little effort at civility, I am rejected.
ELIZABETH: And I might wonder why, with so evident a desire to offend and insult me, you chose to tell me that you like me against your will, against your reason, and even against your character. Was this not some excuse for incivility, if I was uncivil?
[Elizabeth shakes her head.]
ELIZABETH: I have every reason in the world to think ill of you. Do you think any consideration would tempt me to accept the man who's been the means of ruining the happiness of a most beloved sister?
Can you deny that you have done it?
MR DARCY: I have no wish to deny it. I did everything in my power to separate my friend from your sister, and I rejoice in my success. Towards him I have been kinder than towards myself.
ELIZABETH: But it is not merely that on which my dislike of you is founded. Long before it had taken place my dislike of you was decided when I heard Mr Wickham's story of your dealings with him. How can you defend yourself on that subject?
MR DARCY: And you take an eager interest in that gentleman's concerns! [Darcy walks to the opposite corner.]
ELIZABETH: Who that knows what his misfortunes have been could help feeling an interest in him?
[Darcy turns around and paces back to the mirror.]
MR DARCY: His misfortunes. Yes, his misfortunes have been great indeed!
ELIZABETH: And of your infliction. You have reduced him to his present state of poverty, and yet you can treat his misfortunes with contempt and ridicule.
[Darcy tilts his head, his mouth open disbelievingly.]
MR DARCY: And this is your opinion of me?
[Darcy turns to her.]
MR DARCY: My faults by this calculation are heavy indeed.
[Darcy picks up his hat from the tiny table and walks toward the door. He stops to speak.]
MR DARCY: But perhaps these offences might have been overlooked had not your pride been hurt by the honest confession of the scruples which had long prevented my forming any serious design on you. Had I concealed my struggles and flattered you. But disguise of every sort is my abhorrence. Nor am I ashamed of the feelings I related. They were natural and just. Did you expect me to rejoice in the inferiority of your connections?
[Elizabeth stands up and faces her back to him.]
MR DARCY: To congratulate myself on the hope of relations whose condition in life is so decidedly below my own?
[Elizabeth turns back to face him.]
ELIZABETH: You're mistaken, Mr Darcy. The mode of your declaration merely spared me any concern I might have felt in refusing you, had you behaved in a more gentlemanlike manner. You could not have made me the offer of your hand in any possible way that would have tempted me to accept it. From the very beginning, your manners impressed me with fullest belief of your arrogance, your conceit, and your selfish disdain for the feelings of others. I had not known you a month before I felt you were the last man in the world whom I could ever marry.
MR DARCY: You have said quite enough, Madam. I perfectly comprehend your feelings. And now have only to be ashamed of what my own have been. Please forgive me for having taken up your time and accept my best wishes for your health and happiness.
[Darcy bows and leaves without looking back. Elizabeth sighs and lowers her
Thank you, you have done us a service.
And what brilliant prose.
Darcy set a really unattainable example for the typical man. Elizabeth explained exactly what was wrong with him and then he fixed it.
I agree with you Kelwos, I think he delivers his lines perfectly. One can sense the excitement in his voice, in his eyes and he is a little breathless. It certainly looks like Darcy, the prefectionist that he is, must have studied his lines over and over the night before, or even weeks, before delivering such an important speech. I cannot find any fault with Colin's way of delivery. He absolutely nailed it right.
I think if D'arcy had thought the whole thing through, he may not have talked at length about how despicable her family is. I think he has thought about maybe the first two sentences, and the rest is what he has thought to himself, but he thinks himself so grand that nothing that comes out of his educated mouth can be wrong. He doesn't really see it from any other point of view.
@@cnj67 Yes you are right. Though until she rejects him he was doing sort of ok but then he lost it.
@@pearlmode Nah. He proposes as someone who knows he is a catch and just presumes any unmarried woman will be doing her best to cast her snare on him. (Or how is the expression?) He is kind of admitting defeat, using the wording of polite courtship, but also not considering it a possibility that she has not hoped for this all the time. So it's like: "Okay, you got me. Even if you are a lowly almost-commoner with a despicable family, you mission was a success, and you have landed a more than wealthy catch. You can thank me later."
I enjoy watching all the different versions of Austen's work. Still come back to this as my favorite.
I love how Darcy is just constantly like, “Well I don’t know how to answer that one, but you’re still wrong.”
This mini series is so good, I just finished it and imma rewatch it all over again.
The best. THE BEST ADAPTATION EVER! You can't whittle it away down to just a few hours.
Oh Darcy, why so tsundere
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Hmm.. Jane Austen may have accidentally introduced the first tsundere?
Remarkable proposal rejection scene. My favourite characters, my favourite Pride and Prejudice Adaptation. 25 years later and still remarkable. Both actors played quite well.
I can read and watch this proposal scene over and over!! I LOVE it!!
Colin Firth and Jennifer Ehle nailed it!!
HE is the true Mr. Darcy! No one can measure up to Colin Firth here.
THE best Darcy & Elizabeth ever!
Wat een man ! Deze man krijgt mijn diep respect en bewondering . Een man die zijn hart laat spreken. Niet opgeeft, knokt voor waar hij in gelooft en oprecht van houdt. Niet ontkent maar erkent. Volwassen reageert en zijn verantwoordelijkheid neemt. Blijft en volhard
What a great scene. I still remember my English teacher pointing out that everything Mr. Darcy says about Elizabeth's family is true. Lydia's elopement and her parents' reaction further confirmed Mr. Darcy's assessment. This must have been source of great pain to Elizabeth and why she thought Mr. Darcy was lost to her forever. Although everyone knew Mr. Darcy is rich, it was not until Elizabeth saw Pemberley in person that she understood the chasm in their social status.
AUGH the video cuts off before elizabeth totally tears him up verbally. COME ON, BBC, I WANTED TO SEE DARCY GET BURNED
+Lex Kratzer He got burned enough, the man needs a breather.
@@Sheriff_K 😂😂😂
I know. So frustrating. That’s the best bit as well.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched this. Too many to count...love Mr Darcy and his house.
this is such a great scene!! the always compossed Mr. Darcy admitting passionate love and a struggle he cannot over come. And I can feel the passion coming from his eyes, his love and my favorite line "i beg you most ferverently to relieve my suffering and consent to be my wife" omg I would collapse if Darcy said that to me!!
Hands down the BEST version of Pride and Prejudice
His misfortunes... Yes, his misfortunes have been great indeed.
So love the way he says it))
I love how he totally thinks he's being romantic and decisive here. = 'YES, I've thought it through. I really mean what I say, and that is I love you!' turns into a complete insult.
Poor Darcy, his pride was being hurt. One is my favorite scenes in this version
Jennifer Ehle plays so well, i love her character
But it's a good thing it's Pride was hurt.
"his misfortunes!! yes his misfortunes have been great indeed!!" - love that bit
the fact that they were actually in love when they filmed this is so beautiful.
This is my one and only favorite version of Pride and Prejudice.