2-stroke engines naturally spit back oil and fuel onto that filter ,it a automatic thing all of them do that like that When you put a reed valve on one it won't spit back enough to keep the filter wet
That primer on the carburettor is called a "tickler" you push the button until fuel comes out meaning the bowl is full. And that's how you tickle a carb
I've said it before: The best rusty and aged chrome restoration polish and cleaner is GOJO orange hand cleaner with pumice, you use aluminum foil balls and sheets as a scrubber. The combination cleans, removes rust, and brings back a mirror finish and does an amazing job even on pitted metal. My buddy who had a successful bicycle restoration business showed me that technique
Franco Morini is a well known and respected name in european mopeds and two strokes. The KTM 50cc beginner two stroke race bikes are basically clones of a morini engine designed by these folks. They are excellent quality and very well made for the era. The biggest drawback as you know will be finding parts. I suggest you start searching for euro moped and scooter forums and look for Moto Morini or Franco Morini content for help finding parts. They probably still exist overseas. One of the coolest vintage minibikes you guys have found to date, and thats saying something! Don't be afraid to clean that carb as they are very simple designs made for easy servicing and are simple to understand once you open it up. You can still get jets and other parts for them from Treatland sometimes.
I was working in a bottle factory, and one of our pieces of equipment was made in Bologna. I found it humorous. It would be awesome to see Italy. I have some family who used to have a home there, but I don't know if they still do.
@@CarsandCameras I'm hoping to get there before I no longer can. I have some family in Parma and also in Sicily in Siracusa...all moms side of the family. She was 1st generation born in the USA
I have worked and rebuilt lots of 2 stroke engines and tuned them to race. The engine is running very rich. For an air cooled engine the oil mix should be closer to 25:1 and the jet is too big causing no idle, slow pickup and low rev top end
That is a "tickler" on the carburetor. It pushes the float down to overflow the carb and prime the engine. When cold, hold it down until fuel comes out around it.
The Aermacchi Italian two strokes Dellorto carbs had idle, mixture jet, and high speed jet. To adjust the high speed jet you have to open her up and reach down with a screw driver to adjust it till it hits top speed. Not sure about the manufacture of that carb but if it has multiple jets, bet that's the ticket.
Yeah, I've heard about a "power jet" that was an upgrade back in the 60's and 70's on some mopeds. If I'm not totally mistaken, there were some that were accessible while running. I think Finland had a lot of different models that used Italian engines.
A trick I learned that works great for polishing chrome is aluminum foil and water. The foil is softer than the chrome so it doesn’t scratch like other options. It creates a blackish/grey paste that helps polish. Rub it like you would sand paper then rinse.
Great rainy day episode! I knew right away what the background noise was... my shop makes a similar sound. Crazy how much water was flowing across the property! Hope the pond was ok... I agree about the trees on the levee side of the pond. Good thing those were there I laughed at the olive oil joke. Classic. Cool little neighborhood runabout bike. Sounds like an angry bumblebee.
Its not obscure its poetry , its the buzz of a bee , the smell of a honey suckle , the rays of a moon beam , and 2:stroke oil burning in the sun lighht . Pure heaven pure joy
Ya know.. As someone with a 2 stroke Tomos moped with a Delorto carb... I can attest as to how expensive Delorto can be. I also had a pick tip break off pulling the wrist pin clip out of an engine.. Except I didn't know it fell into the engine. Lasted about 3 Mins before that piece got in between the cam and crank timing gears and are up a tooth or two. Still ran though... Thankfully just $30 in new parts and splitting the case and it was good as new. This little bike looks badass as all heck! So unique too!
Franco morini was a very famous minibikes and motorcycles engine factory, in spain is very common to find these type of engines but i researched and this exact minibike is strange, i only found 3-4 bikes like this one, you got a diamond right there. i think franco morini s5 has pieces similar to this engine, good luck with the project!
Hey guys, the look of that engine is eerily similar to the engine on a motorcycle that Montgomery Wards co sold in the 60’s. Built by Benelli in Italy. Although many differences, The kick and shifter lever look almost exactly the same. The styling of the engine and tranny case look quite similar as well. I would say definitely an olive oil special!! 😄. I’ve got 2 of the 125cc from the 1966 vintage. That’s why it caught my eye. Good luck!!
I owned a 1960's Benelli Buzzer minibike at one time and was thinking the same thing ( regret selling it). It was a dog compared to this beast though. Impossible to find parts as well.
You should get a Mityvac vacuum/pressure pump 2cyle needs be able pass both vac and psi. I usually run it at 10 I've also turned the compressor regulator down to 10 and run it that way.
That engine looks exactly like the Italian made (if I'm correct) 50cc "Cimatti" motorcycle engine that I still have leftover from when I was a kid. The only thing missing from it is the slide valve for the carburetor and left side stator cover, and this one is a 4 speed if I remember correctly. It's been sitting in my childhood bedroom and is still in runnable condition. I was going to put it in a minibike frame back then but I just never got around to doing anything with it, I got into small Honda's "4-strokes" instead. Other than that I don't really know much more about them.
2 stroke and that torpedo exhaust, first thing that came to mind was "HOT SAW" chain saw. After you get that carburetor dialed in you may have one little monster on your hands.
Two Strokes powerband has a lot to do with the actual expansion pipe that actually creates the additional power then you get into Reed valves and how that works makes a big difference the newer bikes have power valves which is a rotating disc for a alternating opening to allow additional are at different RPM ranges or throttle
Hey man an expansion chamber is a tuned pipe it's done mathematically through the engines bores stroke and many other things depending on if you want to torque chamber or RPM chambers. An expansion chamber is a tuned pipe but like anyone knows that's dealt with these for 50 years you can build a torque pipe or a RPM pipe depending on many factors
@@midbc1midbc199when you say expansion pipe you're talking about the muffler it sounds like the muffler is a muffler it's not an expansion anything.. Your words are confusing. The terminology you don't call a muffler and expansion muffler unless it's an expansion chamber
Seeing the rushing water I remember people tying a rope to a tree the going to the end the with a surf board they would cut across the river then cut back just like skiing behind a boat.
This was awesome. It's amazing how easy it was to get it running. Looks really cool with the green frame. It obviously still has fuel issue. Could be just a matter of fuel mix and carb adjustment. Sort of sounds like a chain saw,lol. Top speed might be able to be obtained on a straight asphalt road. I thought Charles was right on with the seat description. Grandma couch,lol. And I've never seen that much water on your property before, that was crazy!!! See you later.
these were powered by a Franco Morini 49cc and sold in the US under the name “Chris Cycle”. I owned a 1966 model for several years. I went to an antique auto museum in Hershey PA in 2012 and they had one in their collection.
1969 Wilier Mini Frame no. ? Engine no. ? While it may not be strictly accurate, Honda is thought to have been the inventor of the mini-bike, the bike 'which taught so many Americans how to ride.' In reality there were many manufacturers of the two genres from around the world in the late 1960s; the mini-bike (road) and the mini-trail (off-road). Pietro Dal Molin started Wilier Triestina, a bicycle shop, in the summer of 1906, on the banks of the Brenta in San Fortunato near the city of Trieste. The company name was an acronym for 'W l'Italia liberata e redenta.' (the 'W' is an abbreviation for 'Viva!') As in 'Long live Italy, liberated and redeemed.' When Wilier was founded, Trieste was not part of Italy thus its name reflected a patriotic desire for it to be rejoined. The Wilier trademark, bought by the Gastaldello brothers of Rossano, Veneto, in 1969, remains today as one of the world's foremost carbon fiber bicycle frame builders with a Tour de France victory under its belt courtesy of the late Marco Pantani. Virtually nothing is left of Wilier's exploration into the motorcycle market - no Bonhams specialist has ever seen a Wilier Mini-Bike before. Thus, what you have is an extremely rare, mystery mini-bike, complete with Morini Franco Motori 2-stroke (believed to be) of 50cc...
Thing is definitely cool it definitely has a hanging idle still it’s a bit Lean on the idle circuit should be able to adjust the air/fuel to richen it up ! Sweet find guys
If I was you guys I'd build a bit of a levy around the pond, and maybe get a few solar panels, batteries, and inverter so you can keep the lights on! A few sand bags to keep the water out the shop. Because storms are getting to be common. I live at the foot of the mountain from Boone, we had crazy storms here also! Also burry a 5gal bucket in the shop floor, with a pump in it, in case of a flood, sand bags across the doors and a pump in a sump can save alot of stuff from getting destroyed! Atleast a 2000-2500 watt generator, to run lights and a pump!
First and foremost , glad that you and your families are alright. Next you just showed an engine that I have never seen before, ( big hurrah! ) have seen most of the engine types that you have displayed so far, this was a new one :)
I have never scratched a shaft! I guess I also make a hole, before the screw, with a 1/16" bit, or a sharpened punch, when possible. Safer than a pry stick.
SOS pads also work the best in my opinion for cleaning aluminum and you can use them ruff and it doesn’t mess anything up takes rust away just need to be wet
I had a very rare Italian moped around that same era and it had some very similar components like the air filter and the carburetor. They were very similar
Morini 2 stroke! Once a very big name in the game. Now pretty much gone. Those 60s 2 strokes always sound so happy to be driven. 😆 Those sping style seats are amazing. Especially on vintage vespa's. Might not be the most comfortable thing to sit on at first. You need to train your behind a little. But(t) once you're used to it they are amazing. If you want to take old seals out. Drive 2 small screws into it. One on the left side and one on the right side and jank on both screws with some pliers. Been doing it for years. Never damaged anything doing it that way. And for hard to reach places.. longer screws are the way to go. The left screw closest to the air filter is your air mixture screw. Turn it all the way in and back it out 1 1/2 to 2 turns. When the engine is up to temperature up the idle just a bit. Start adjusting the air screw left or right till you find the highest rpm at idle and then turn it one step back from the direction you where turning it to. 1/8 or 1/4 of a turn should be fine. And then you can start adjusting your idle to around 1800-2000rpm. Enjoy the mini bike. :)
@CarsandCamers I just wanted too say that since you got the C&C World HQ. That is the first time that I have seen that pond "Overflow" that much. And, the stream crossing and the wooden bridge down stream Flash Flooded! Just WOW Man!!!...😱😱😱🤯🤯🤯😳😳😳😮😮😮
First Good News Was Yall Uploaded. Then I Hear The Rain In The Background As I’m Trying To Relax😭😭😭😭 This Is Gonna Be A Good Good One. & 14:20 Ike You Have To Get Him Back For That One. Toooo Accurate 😂😂😂
A 1969 Willard Motori Morini Franco. My dad recently found one on craigslist and bought it in red. He has childhood stories of riding around the nighborhood one that his dad bought for the kids in 70.
When I lived on the Gulf Coast in the 70's, I had a Honda SL125 for my primary transportation. About once a month, I had to use that fine wool and then polish the chrome with DuPonts Chrome Polish. It didn't really last that long. But it was better than coating the polished chrome with nothing.
That is a Vespa racing air filter. Keeps itself wet with oil/gas from that special carb. I used one on my pk 50. It hates cold air and will freeze over. Butt does add quite some engine puckup and go. The carb reminds me also of an early vespa unit.
Learned to tune up a 2-stroke in my teens after getting a Gilera DNA with the fine H2O engine. It's a combination of going by ear and then seeing the color on the plug after running it warm. (And by how much it smokes) That thing sounds like its a bit too lean. Raise the needle and screw in the air mixture screw until it starts running bad and take it out a turn or two. If it still "moans", you'll need either bigger main jet or a cover on that filter. But If you can get it to "burble", then you know you went too rich. I bet the filter is supposed to be lightly soaked in oil to prevent fine dust from entering the intake.
I think we ran one of those with a 25 to 1 mix when we had one in the UK in 79 when I was 12. It was good for about 45mph back in the day, but I got 55ish after a bit of tuning, thanks to my late father driving beside me in his old Austen Cambridge. He would have been 106 this year
Some more Ike is a dope. Don't scratch your crank. Drill a small hole in the middle of the seal(use a drill stop and don't hit the bearing!!!!)and drive a sheet metal screw in so just the tip grabs it. Pull it out with pliers.
@@SportbikerNZ yeah that's nonsense for sure. You obviously know what you're doing since you want to do it like the f****** special helper. I prefer to not destroy perfectly good things. You don't get to see the cars and camera later while all theur s*** falls apart and leeks and rots because they don't know what the f*** they're doing at all. Oh no wait a minute I'm completely wrong you absolutely have no idea what you are doing either.
@@jasonbirch1182 The little gutter mouth is being precious. I bet Ike's got more experience doing this sort of stuff in his little finger than your entire existence. You can bet your boots he knows about the ubiquitous screw extraction method and others. He also well knows about the risk to scratching the crank, as he pointed out. With experience he has found that you can do this routinely without scratching the crank.
With Lambretta and Vespa being the go to in Italy back in the day it sorta makes sense this thing is two stroke and 4 speed as it likely would have been designed to feel familiar to new riders etc Really Neat bike
Italjet, early 70’s. I had a 3 speed automatic 2-stroke bored out to 65cc and it would pop a wheely every time it would shift. Think I was 6, or 7. So I had it in 1977,78& road it all the time. Of course I graduated to a rm80,then a cr125r when I was 15,or 16. Franco morini motori,50cc Italy.
I was just re-watching some of the old Z50 videos today and John laid every one of them down at least once, so I was white-knuckling it through John's go on this one. Glad to see nobody dumped it!
That seat is a suspension seat ,sorta like off-road vehicle racers use... The springs supplement the vehicles suspension during heavy jumps and bumps in the race vehicles, but in this instance, it is the suspension for ones spine..
What you could possibly do to control the flooding is rebuild the stream or river that runs through it. You can rebuild the track to run over the river but just a thought.
Just a tip... When dealing with rust on chrome use aluminum foil and water to keep from scratching the chrome it'll do a lot better and keep it from getting new rust
I'm half Italian, and I'm not sure if I would lay claim to be related to the folks made that thing. the engine is more like a motorcycle engine. that's a bing carburetor. Husqvarna used those carburetor's. the one's used on Husky's were larger of course. it's a little funny looking but all mini bikes are funny looking. the oil was clean at least that's a good sign. that's definitely how it rains in the south. it's gonna be a while before you guys can run the Grand Prix again. I remember when I used to drive truck. I crossed the Mississippi river and a down poor happened. and the turtles all over on the Mississippi bridge. I bet Ike had some serious flooding since he always does. that mini bike actually fits Ike. thank goodness you guys built that shop. it's the only place Ike's only going to be able to ride it. it's probably fuel filter, if it has paper filter change it to a screen filter and it will work better. the ground dried up pretty quick. Ike is just crazy enough to ride that thing.
@@danw1955 It's very similar to a bing carburetor. most bing carburetor's usually have a tickler on them. it's a little hard to be exact by watching a video.
Love the new camera John the zoom feature seems to work great but the sound is a little tinny. The little bike presented itself very well for being 60 years old.Sorry to see your property under water
CARS AND CAMERAS....Tool to get for future Lisle 58430 shaft type seal puller. will pay for itself first time you use it. a lot less chance of damaging the shaft the hooks are replaceable and i have ground them down for small or special seals.
That style carb is used on a lot of old mopeds, they’re not great and the they use a brass needle and seat for the bowl which don’t always like to seal properly. A dellorto sha is a good replacement/upgrade from that one
2 Stroke > 4 Stokes all day brother, all day! Tip: If you don't have Steel Wool you can use crumpled up Aluminum Foil and and White Vinegar to clean Chrome. It works quite well in a pinch. 👍👍 You guys need to take this to the Airport when you test the new land speed bike to see what this will do. 🤞🤞
That bike is beautiful. I love it! A while back i got a couple modern morini franco 50cc engines. Anyway i didnt know anything about them and found this guy thru the Internet that raced them and stuff. Guy said he pulled almost 30hp out of one using a kx65 expansion chamber and some port work. Stock the thing makes like 10hp which is pretty tough for a 50cc to me.
Living in East Tennessee. There's nothing better than working in the shop with a tin roof. To the downpour, it'll make you want to take a nap if your heaters set to 75. °
At first the new camera was a bit overpowering, my eyes had to adjust to the 4K. Audio was not that great, but you're inside a steel building. My old 2-stroke Simar rototillers from the '30s and 40's had a similar carb, but no choke you pushed that plunger down until gas came out, then pulled the strap that you wrapped around the hub on the flywheel.
As a fellow Italian, I loved the olive oil line from John!
Sicilian approved 👌
Had a friend that his AJS 370 was lubed with some kind of heavy vegetable oil though. I remember that they joked a lot about it.
Calabria here... Amantea (Hence the last name)... fully approved!
😂 good times 🎉
I'm portuguese and like Pelstinans we are many to have olive oil in our blood ;)
Those "Brillo pad" air filters work better than you'd think. You need to oil them with air filter oil.
Yeah that’s what the dellorto air filters came with, I have a few
2-stroke engines naturally spit back oil and fuel onto that filter ,it a automatic thing all of them do that like that
When you put a reed valve on one it won't spit back enough to keep the filter wet
It looks like in italajet
That primer on the carburettor is called a "tickler" you push the button until fuel comes out meaning the bowl is full. And that's how you tickle a carb
The mikunis on my 74 CB750/970cc Cafe racer has the ticklers
I've said it before: The best rusty and aged chrome restoration polish and cleaner is GOJO orange hand cleaner with pumice, you use aluminum foil balls and sheets as a scrubber. The combination cleans, removes rust, and brings back a mirror finish and does an amazing job even on pitted metal. My buddy who had a successful bicycle restoration business showed me that technique
Any acid will do. I use tinfoil and pepsi and it works like a charm.
u just need to make sure u use wet tinfoil for cleaning chrome, don't use any cleaner or abrasives
Franco Morini is a well known and respected name in european mopeds and two strokes. The KTM 50cc beginner two stroke race bikes are basically clones of a morini engine designed by these folks. They are excellent quality and very well made for the era. The biggest drawback as you know will be finding parts. I suggest you start searching for euro moped and scooter forums and look for Moto Morini or Franco Morini content for help finding parts. They probably still exist overseas. One of the coolest vintage minibikes you guys have found to date, and thats saying something! Don't be afraid to clean that carb as they are very simple designs made for easy servicing and are simple to understand once you open it up. You can still get jets and other parts for them from Treatland sometimes.
That olive oil joke was classic! Bologna, Italy is a beautiful city.
I was there just a few months ago with my folks, it was awesome!
I was working in a bottle factory, and one of our pieces of equipment was made in Bologna. I found it humorous. It would be awesome to see Italy. I have some family who used to have a home there, but I don't know if they still do.
@@CarsandCameras I'm hoping to get there before I no longer can. I have some family in Parma and also in Sicily in Siracusa...all moms side of the family. She was 1st generation born in the USA
What a bunch of Bologna
I have worked and rebuilt lots of 2 stroke engines and tuned them to race. The engine is running very rich. For an air cooled engine the oil mix should be closer to 25:1 and the jet is too big causing no idle, slow pickup and low rev top end
Ike knows, they don't care enough to make it run right. Give Ike 10 minutes and a screwdriver set and I guarantee it runs right
That is a "tickler" on the carburetor. It pushes the float down to overflow the carb and prime the engine. When cold, hold it down until fuel comes out around it.
Us old guys know to hold the tickler down til it overflows. Don't pump it.
@@draftwood My 74 Norton had ticklers on the Amal carbs, pretty sure all the Amal carbs on Brit bikes had the same back then.
The Aermacchi Italian two strokes Dellorto carbs had idle, mixture jet, and high speed jet. To adjust the high speed jet you have to open her up and reach down with a screw driver to adjust it till it hits top speed. Not sure about the manufacture of that carb but if it has multiple jets, bet that's the ticket.
Italy ok
Yeah, I've heard about a "power jet" that was an upgrade back in the 60's and 70's on some mopeds. If I'm not totally mistaken, there were some that were accessible while running. I think Finland had a lot of different models that used Italian engines.
A trick I learned that works great for polishing chrome is aluminum foil and water. The foil is softer than the chrome so it doesn’t scratch like other options. It creates a blackish/grey paste that helps polish. Rub it like you would sand paper then rinse.
I bet if you ran some good cleaner on it, it would rinse that off.
Sounds like aluminum cover up not cleaner.
Great rainy day episode! I knew right away what the background noise was... my shop makes a similar sound. Crazy how much water was flowing across the property! Hope the pond was ok... I agree about the trees on the levee side of the pond. Good thing those were there I laughed at the olive oil joke. Classic. Cool little neighborhood runabout bike. Sounds like an angry bumblebee.
I LOVE my Morini engines! Been subscribed to you guys for years and finally get to see you work on one!
Its not obscure its poetry , its the buzz of a bee , the smell of a honey suckle , the rays of a moon beam , and 2:stroke oil burning in the sun lighht . Pure heaven pure joy
Ya know.. As someone with a 2 stroke Tomos moped with a Delorto carb... I can attest as to how expensive Delorto can be.
I also had a pick tip break off pulling the wrist pin clip out of an engine.. Except I didn't know it fell into the engine.
Lasted about 3 Mins before that piece got in between the cam and crank timing gears and are up a tooth or two.
Still ran though... Thankfully just $30 in new parts and splitting the case and it was good as new.
This little bike looks badass as all heck! So unique too!
My Rupp Blackwidow had a similar Del Orto carb. Cool old bike!! in really nice shape too!!!!
Franco morini was a very famous minibikes and motorcycles engine factory, in spain is very common to find these type of engines but i researched and this exact minibike is strange, i only found 3-4 bikes like this one, you got a diamond right there. i think franco morini s5 has pieces similar to this engine, good luck with the project!
Hey guys, the look of that engine is eerily similar to the engine on a motorcycle that Montgomery Wards co sold in the 60’s. Built by Benelli in Italy.
Although many differences, The kick and shifter lever look almost exactly the same. The styling of the engine and tranny case look quite similar as well. I would say definitely an olive oil special!! 😄. I’ve got 2 of the 125cc from the 1966 vintage. That’s why it caught my eye. Good luck!!
Oh Binelli! I forgot about them!
Franco Morini is a engine builder and used in a lot of italian brands.
I owned a 1960's Benelli Buzzer minibike at one time and was thinking the same thing ( regret selling it). It was a dog compared to this beast though. Impossible to find parts as well.
Seems quite a few of us think this looks like a Benelli engine!
You should get a Mityvac vacuum/pressure pump 2cyle needs be able pass both vac and psi. I usually run it at 10
I've also turned the compressor regulator down to 10 and run it that way.
That engine looks exactly like the Italian made (if I'm correct) 50cc "Cimatti" motorcycle engine that I still have leftover from when I was a kid. The only thing missing from it is the slide valve for the carburetor and left side stator cover, and this one is a 4 speed if I remember correctly. It's been sitting in my childhood bedroom and is still in runnable condition. I was going to put it in a minibike frame back then but I just never got around to doing anything with it, I got into small Honda's "4-strokes" instead. Other than that I don't really know much more about them.
That’s a Chris cycle. I have one of each of three models.
I have some extra parts.
I have an nos motor.
You're The proud owner of a Chris cycle is very rare Looks a little like a Bennelli but i'm positive it's not it Has headlights Speedometer Eccetera
I've never used straight, dry steel wool to polish chrome, but I have done it with 3 in 1 oil many, many times. Works great! Cool bike.
2 stroke and that torpedo exhaust, first thing that came to mind was "HOT SAW" chain saw. After you get that carburetor dialed in you may have one little monster on your hands.
A friend of mine had/has a Morini 500 VTwin - an absolutely beautifully engineered bike, very quick but with a fragile ignition system..
My heart melted when the bike started and made Ike smile. Such honest joy.
Two Strokes powerband has a lot to do with the actual expansion pipe that actually creates the additional power then you get into Reed valves and how that works makes a big difference the newer bikes have power valves which is a rotating disc for a alternating opening to allow additional are at different RPM ranges or throttle
The expansion pipe is just for creating enough back pressure for the crankcase......tuned pipes are where it really makes a difference
Hey man an expansion chamber is a tuned pipe it's done mathematically through the engines bores stroke and many other things depending on if you want to torque chamber or RPM chambers. An expansion chamber is a tuned pipe but like anyone knows that's dealt with these for 50 years you can build a torque pipe or a RPM pipe depending on many factors
Tuned pipe is an expansion chamber
The button on the float bowl is supposed to be held down until a little bit of gas comes out it's not just to be pushed on for one second
@@midbc1midbc199when you say expansion pipe you're talking about the muffler it sounds like the muffler is a muffler it's not an expansion anything..
Your words are confusing. The terminology you don't call a muffler and expansion muffler unless it's an expansion chamber
I’m relatively new to viewing on this channel. I haven’t seen many of your projects. But that mini bike is really cool. Congrats guys!
Neat little bike , don't forget the exhaust . A decoke would complete the service .
Seeing the rushing water I remember people tying a rope to a tree the going to the end the with a surf board they would cut across the river then cut back just like skiing behind a boat.
we used to use SOS scouring pads on our chrome back in the early 80s. what a ride/find!!
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Man, you gotta love that black widow looking emblem on the side cove!! I dig it!!!
Charles really wanted to ride that thing.
Thor showed his disapproval while flickering the light switch.
Used to use steel wool in my old chainsaws way back in the day
This was awesome. It's amazing how easy it was to get it running. Looks really cool with the green frame. It obviously still has fuel issue. Could be just a matter of fuel mix and carb adjustment. Sort of sounds like a chain saw,lol. Top speed might be able to be obtained on a straight asphalt road. I thought Charles was right on with the seat description. Grandma couch,lol. And I've never seen that much water on your property before, that was crazy!!! See you later.
these were powered by a Franco Morini 49cc and sold in the US under the name “Chris Cycle”. I owned a 1966 model for several years. I went to an antique auto museum in Hershey PA in 2012 and they had one in their collection.
Would love more info on this thing, tropic a comment if you know the history on these bikes!
41:10 not gona show that leak test ay?
What a dumb way of thinking. Cutting Corners after you already did the bulk of the work.
1969 Wilier Mini
Frame no. ?
Engine no. ?
While it may not be strictly accurate, Honda is thought to have been the inventor of the mini-bike, the bike 'which taught so many Americans how to ride.' In reality there were many manufacturers of the two genres from around the world in the late 1960s; the mini-bike (road) and the mini-trail (off-road). Pietro Dal Molin started Wilier Triestina, a bicycle shop, in the summer of 1906, on the banks of the Brenta in San Fortunato near the city of Trieste. The company name was an acronym for 'W l'Italia liberata e redenta.' (the 'W' is an abbreviation for 'Viva!') As in 'Long live Italy, liberated and redeemed.' When Wilier was founded, Trieste was not part of Italy thus its name reflected a patriotic desire for it to be rejoined. The Wilier trademark, bought by the Gastaldello brothers of Rossano, Veneto, in 1969, remains today as one of the world's foremost carbon fiber bicycle frame builders with a Tour de France victory under its belt courtesy of the late Marco Pantani. Virtually nothing is left of Wilier's exploration into the motorcycle market - no Bonhams specialist has ever seen a Wilier Mini-Bike before. Thus, what you have is an extremely rare, mystery mini-bike, complete with Morini Franco Motori 2-stroke (believed to be) of 50cc...
@@mostlymotorized Sit down karen.
Thing is definitely cool it definitely has a hanging idle still it’s a bit Lean on the idle circuit should be able to adjust the air/fuel to richen it up ! Sweet find guys
Aluminum foil and spray polish on the chrome works amazing. You don’t get the fine scratches that steel wool leaves.
If I was you guys I'd build a bit of a levy around the pond, and maybe get a few solar panels, batteries, and inverter so you can keep the lights on! A few sand bags to keep the water out the shop. Because storms are getting to be common. I live at the foot of the mountain from Boone, we had crazy storms here also! Also burry a 5gal bucket in the shop floor, with a pump in it, in case of a flood, sand bags across the doors and a pump in a sump can save alot of stuff from getting destroyed! Atleast a 2000-2500 watt generator, to run lights and a pump!
First and foremost , glad that you and your families are alright. Next you just showed an engine that I have never seen before, ( big hurrah! ) have seen most of the engine types that you have displayed so far, this was a new one :)
Please film 30fps with the new camera , the screen hurts my eyes 37:40
Removing seals:
Self tapping screw & a slide hammer
That works on occasion and in a pinch. But proper tools are a better especially when you are trying to not damage a rare engine.
I have never scratched a shaft!
I guess I also make a hole, before the screw, with a 1/16" bit, or a sharpened punch, when possible. Safer than a pry stick.
Holy crap! That camera difference is crazy!
Gotta love Ike, the property is flooded and he is trying to decide what he can pull out for a rip.
run a dry wall screw in the seal grab it with plyers and it will pop right out
SOS pads also work the best in my opinion for cleaning aluminum and you can use them ruff and it doesn’t mess anything up takes rust away just need to be wet
Been watching you guys for 7 years or mor I swear
Interesting project. Fun research. Fun to learn about.
One can never stop learning about motorcycles.
LOVE the Motorini.
What cool little mini bike great find.
I had a very rare Italian moped around that same era and it had some very similar components like the air filter and the carburetor. They were very similar
The one I've got has the "turbo" logo on the head also.
Morini 2 stroke!
Once a very big name in the game. Now pretty much gone.
Those 60s 2 strokes always sound so happy to be driven. 😆
Those sping style seats are amazing. Especially on vintage vespa's. Might not be the most comfortable thing to sit on at first. You need to train your behind a little.
But(t) once you're used to it they are amazing.
If you want to take old seals out. Drive 2 small screws into it. One on the left side and one on the right side and jank on both screws with some pliers. Been doing it for years. Never damaged anything doing it that way.
And for hard to reach places.. longer screws are the way to go.
The left screw closest to the air filter is your air mixture screw. Turn it all the way in and back it out 1 1/2 to 2 turns.
When the engine is up to temperature up the idle just a bit. Start adjusting the air screw left or right till you find the highest rpm at idle and then turn it one step back from the direction you where turning it to. 1/8 or 1/4 of a turn should be fine. And then you can start adjusting your idle to around 1800-2000rpm. Enjoy the mini bike. :)
Lol! Russel's go cart's KCMO! They are actually in Raymore Mo. I live very close.
Congrats on the new camera guys, keep up the great work!
🎉 thanks for the video guys... and for being honest....i hate click bait videos........ JJ.....😊
@CarsandCamers I just wanted too say that since you got the C&C World HQ. That is the first time that I have seen that pond "Overflow" that much. And, the stream crossing and the wooden bridge down stream Flash Flooded! Just WOW Man!!!...😱😱😱🤯🤯🤯😳😳😳😮😮😮
Dam that's a nice mini bike for sure. Would love to check out more videos on this bike
First Good News Was Yall Uploaded. Then I Hear The Rain In The Background As I’m Trying To Relax😭😭😭😭 This Is Gonna Be A Good Good One. & 14:20 Ike You Have To Get Him Back For That One. Toooo Accurate 😂😂😂
I absolutely have bike envy!! I need one in my life. Very cool little bike!
A 1969 Willard Motori Morini Franco. My dad recently found one on craigslist and bought it in red. He has childhood stories of riding around the nighborhood one that his dad bought for the kids in 70.
That is a bad ass mini bike! Great job boys! Thank you very much for another episode of great content!
When I lived on the Gulf Coast in the 70's, I had a Honda SL125 for my primary transportation. About once a month, I had to use that fine wool and then polish the chrome with DuPonts Chrome Polish. It didn't really last that long. But it was better than coating the polished chrome with nothing.
Nice job guys. Great job on the research and finding parts.
That is a Vespa racing air filter. Keeps itself wet with oil/gas from that special carb. I used one on my pk 50. It hates cold air and will freeze over. Butt does add quite some engine puckup and go. The carb reminds me also of an early vespa unit.
Learned to tune up a 2-stroke in my teens after getting a Gilera DNA with the fine H2O engine. It's a combination of going by ear and then seeing the color on the plug after running it warm. (And by how much it smokes) That thing sounds like its a bit too lean. Raise the needle and screw in the air mixture screw until it starts running bad and take it out a turn or two. If it still "moans", you'll need either bigger main jet or a cover on that filter. But If you can get it to "burble", then you know you went too rich. I bet the filter is supposed to be lightly soaked in oil to prevent fine dust from entering the intake.
Perfect time to go through some of the trails with a couple rakes and shovels and dial them in!
hoping yall stay safe! thats some serious water dumpage! i guess this is another reminder to bring stuff inside... (Ike!) Much love from illinois!
I think we ran one of those with a 25 to 1 mix when we had one in the UK in 79 when I was 12. It was good for about 45mph back in the day, but I got 55ish after a bit of tuning, thanks to my late father driving beside me in his old Austen Cambridge. He would have been 106 this year
That is a sweet little bike!! Loved the episode!!
2:51 oh, this is a family show. We don’t care how you rub it.😂
Some more Ike is a dope. Don't scratch your crank. Drill a small hole in the middle of the seal(use a drill stop and don't hit the bearing!!!!)and drive a sheet metal screw in so just the tip grabs it. Pull it out with pliers.
Yup they just gorilla everything
This saves so much time more than people even know
Pfft, rather Ike's method than that nonsense.
@@SportbikerNZ yeah that's nonsense for sure. You obviously know what you're doing since you want to do it like the f****** special helper. I prefer to not destroy perfectly good things. You don't get to see the cars and camera later while all theur s*** falls apart and leeks and rots because they don't know what the f*** they're doing at all. Oh no wait a minute I'm completely wrong you absolutely have no idea what you are doing either.
@@jasonbirch1182 The little gutter mouth is being precious.
I bet Ike's got more experience doing this sort of stuff in his little finger than your entire existence.
You can bet your boots he knows about the ubiquitous screw extraction method and others.
He also well knows about the risk to scratching the crank, as he pointed out. With experience he has found that you can do this routinely without scratching the crank.
With Lambretta and Vespa being the go to in Italy back in the day it sorta makes sense this thing is two stroke and 4 speed as it likely would have been designed to feel familiar to new riders etc
Really Neat bike
I use SOS Pads and plenty of water, to shine rusty chrome.
4 zero steel wool,, VILETA Stainless steel pad,,i use Mothers mag and Aluminum polish
Italjet, early 70’s. I had a 3 speed automatic 2-stroke bored out to 65cc and it would pop a wheely every time it would shift. Think I was 6, or 7. So I had it in 1977,78& road it all the time. Of course I graduated to a rm80,then a cr125r when I was 15,or 16. Franco morini motori,50cc Italy.
I was just re-watching some of the old Z50 videos today and John laid every one of them down at least once, so I was white-knuckling it through John's go on this one. Glad to see nobody dumped it!
Yeah thinking to myself Jon is going to dump that bike for sure. Like you said he dumps all bikes on track! Lol
That seat is a suspension seat ,sorta like off-road vehicle racers use... The springs supplement the vehicles suspension during heavy jumps and bumps in the race vehicles, but in this instance, it is the suspension for ones spine..
Use never dull to clean and polish. That stuff is amazing
Road ridden, garage kept, stunning little kit
Such a cool bike, nice work fellas!
What you could possibly do to control the flooding is rebuild the stream or river that runs through it. You can rebuild the track to run over the river but just a thought.
Just a tip... When dealing with rust on chrome use aluminum foil and water to keep from scratching the chrome it'll do a lot better and keep it from getting new rust
I'm half Italian, and I'm not sure if I would lay claim to be related to the folks made that thing. the engine is more like a motorcycle engine. that's a bing carburetor. Husqvarna used those carburetor's. the one's used on Husky's were larger of course. it's a little funny looking but all mini bikes are funny looking.
the oil was clean at least that's a good sign.
that's definitely how it rains in the south.
it's gonna be a while before you guys can run the Grand Prix again.
I remember when I used to drive truck. I crossed the Mississippi river and a down poor happened. and the turtles all over on the Mississippi bridge.
I bet Ike had some serious flooding since he always does.
that mini bike actually fits Ike.
thank goodness you guys built that shop. it's the only place Ike's only going to be able to ride it.
it's probably fuel filter, if it has paper filter change it to a screen filter and it will work better.
the ground dried up pretty quick.
Ike is just crazy enough to ride that thing.
The carb is actually a Dell'Orto SHA 14, not a Bing carb. I have an old Benelli 50 cc scooter that uses the exact same carburetor.
@@danw1955
It's very similar to a bing carburetor. most bing carburetor's usually have a tickler on them. it's a little hard to be exact by watching a video.
Love the new camera John the zoom feature seems to work great but the sound is a little tinny. The little bike presented itself very well for being 60 years old.Sorry to see your property under water
I love that you hand start this bike. So different from the 500. No boot needed haha.
19:30 i feel compelled to say "get that jet-ski runnin,'"
CARS AND CAMERAS....Tool to get for future Lisle 58430 shaft type seal puller. will pay for itself first time you use it. a lot less chance of damaging the shaft the hooks are replaceable and i have ground them down for small or special seals.
the springs in the seat are typical italian fare----scooters,(vespa,etc.) small bore bikes(benelli,aermacchi)---they all used them
That style carb is used on a lot of old mopeds, they’re not great and the they use a brass needle and seat for the bowl which don’t always like to seal properly. A dellorto sha is a good replacement/upgrade from that one
2 Stroke > 4 Stokes all day brother, all day!
Tip: If you don't have Steel Wool you can use crumpled up Aluminum Foil and and White Vinegar to clean Chrome. It works quite well in a pinch. 👍👍
You guys need to take this to the Airport when you test the new land speed bike to see what this will do. 🤞🤞
Any weak acid will work.. coke/pepsi is usually what I use
I've seen this done personally and it does do a good enough job for sure
That bike is beautiful. I love it!
A while back i got a couple modern morini franco 50cc engines. Anyway i didnt know anything about them and found this guy thru the Internet that raced them and stuff. Guy said he pulled almost 30hp out of one using a kx65 expansion chamber and some port work.
Stock the thing makes like 10hp which is pretty tough for a 50cc to me.
Living in East Tennessee. There's nothing better than working in the shop with a tin roof. To the downpour, it'll make you want to take a nap if your heaters set to 75. °
S O S pad with the soap works great and doesn’t scratch. Gets rust off and leaves the chrome shiny
Thats a pretty kool bike nice find, thats some crisp 4k vid action noice 👌
Awesome mini bike. Looks good. Sounds good.
Thats such a unique and unusual bike, love it, wish there were more like them around
You can hear the rain hitting the top of the shop 😊
At first the new camera was a bit overpowering, my eyes had to adjust to the 4K. Audio was not that great, but you're inside a steel building. My old 2-stroke Simar rototillers from the '30s and 40's had a similar carb, but no choke you pushed that plunger down until gas came out, then pulled the strap that you wrapped around the hub on the flywheel.
In the wet clutch use S.A.E. 30 mineral oil,
The 2strokes mix is 40:1
Love this content. Great to see a bit of a unicorn. Keep up the good work.