I went to that museum when I was 16yo and it was wonderful seeing the only "living" vessel from that time. Now I'm about to finish my Naval Architect degree.
@@oddballsok That is a copy room, I was there last summer. There is probably a lot of things that are new since 1998 and I would very much recommend visiting again if possible! And no, they won't let anyone on the ship for obvious reasons :)
If we look at this plank here from the Vasa ship. You can just barely see the face of an alien. Does this mean Vasa was sunk by ancient aliens from outer space? Ancient Astronaut Theorists say Yes. xd
But how do you know it wasnt Aliens? After all, the Vasa had refrences to ancient Egypt carved on her and as we all know, Aliens built the Pyramids of Egypt
@@abohassan238I asked them and the aliens said it wasn't them because they had movie night and they weren't gonna miss it to play with some wooden ship.
That's almost exactly the kind of thing you'd find on a well funded TV show. I hope you guys get lots of funding and your own show, you've definitely earned it. Some executives need to see this.
I hope he gets funding in any and all ways, but forget the execs. This guy needs freedom. This was great documentation - executives would ruin his style and message
As a Swede that have been to the museum and heard other things from the ship due to it being a very historical thing. This explanation was really well done.
Yeah i know it was something like the germans built the left side and the dutch did the right but the thing was that they used different measurements which caused the sinking.
@@somedrytoast2307 When an anon poster makes an unsubstantiated, unsourced, claim online, the rational thing is to ignore it as "noise". Failing that, check his claim. I did, he's full of it. Liar or stupid or just misinformed, it doesn't matter, his claim is nonsensical bullshit.
2:00 My gods it is a good thing you wore safety glasses for that experiment, you absolute madlad! Jk. I know, it is a general rule. Well made documentary! good use of the museum resources too
Haha, thanks! We'd been annoying the lab supervisor with the Mars videos (something about too many explosions and misuse of hydrogen gas) so decided to play it extra safe for this one!
i remember seeing this in a museum in Stockholm. it was so obvious why it sank, it was so mad top heavy. why did they think that this thing was seaworthy?!?
There's been loads of thoughts _(proof really)_ that the Vasa family suffered from genetic insanity. People were most likely to afraid to warn the king, because any hate on his ideas = off with their heads :P
@@Schmorgus Well, I wouldn't say that they didn't wanna tell him that because they were scared because they thought that he was mad. Gustav the II Adulf was beloved by the swedes (and still is). From what I read he seemed to be a perfectly functioning person (who was a brilliant general as well), I think that they just didn't wanna tell the king that the ship that he ordered and invested a sh*t load of money on not to work so they just went along hoping that somebody else would take the blame until it became soo big that nobody could be blamed. Not even Gustav because all he basically sed was "hey can you build me a giant ship, I'll give you as much money as you need"
@@nuralibolataev4474 Well. He increased his own power, and the nobility's. He increased taxes for personal wealth, and common people had a rough time during his reign. The ship didn't even pass the basic stability-test, but the king payed the correct people to push the launch to show off the ship against Poland. That shows that even if he himself was shown as a good king according to some history, looking behind him, he used his nobility, most likely to threaten and kill in order to get what he wanted. He even stated that he was "equal to god". IMO he knew how to use political power in order to look good while silencing those who opposed him, but behind the curtains, he was as insane as his fathers before him. I'm swedish, and he might be loved by the far right due to his expanding wars. But he's not loved as a king of the common people :P
@@Schmorgus Well, he kinda needed to increase his own power to stabilize the political situation in Sweden because he entered the 30yers war on the protestant side in a time when the protestants were getting their ass handed to them so he couldn't afford any political strife back home when he was campaigning in Germany. And increasing taxes was easily justifiable because you know war isn't cheap, he needed the money to pay upkeep for his troops and their supplies and to garner political support in mainland Europe. The point of increasing his own wealth is kinda weird because he was out campaigning pretty much all the money from the taxes went into the war, and sure he's campaigning conditions ware much much much better than the average soldier, but that doesn't change the fact that the money he used pretty much all went into the war effort one-way or another. The thing with the Vassa put yourself in his shoes for a moment you are in a brutal conflict with a much larger enemy and you need to improve your military including your navy therefor you decide to create the greatest warship on the face of the earth, so you ask your best experts and they say that they can do it so you give them all the money they need but you need the ship asap so you give them a deadline with they said that they can handle. you don't know how a ship work but all the expert say that it will work so you trust them because they know what they are talking about. It's not your fault that everything went down the shitter now, is it?
@@nuralibolataev4474 Well, the 30 year war wasn't justified, other than the kings beliefs. People didn't want the war :P And the ship was built to "impress" Poland. Wich at the time wasn't important due to other conflicts.
The Swedish king saved a lot of lives by sinking his own ship before the enemy could do so 😉😁 The Swedish justice system was surprisingly good at that time by NOT blaming the lowest guy in the picking order.
I went to see it in 2001 when I was 11, it’s massive and brilliantly crafted. Shame but at least it lasted all this time. A must go if you ever visit Stockholm.
Even though it was a great embarrassment and unfortunate disaster, it's fortunate that we in modern times get to experience a preserved real authentic warship from 1628. If the ship would've seen actual warfare it most likely would've ended up damaged and scuttled eventually. It's a win and a loss no matter how I look at it.
Three or two years ago, I bought a illustration of Vasa and put it into a frame and hanged it on the wall beside of my bed. I knew nothing about famous vessels of this period, but I wanted one that seemed very elegant and that gave that old antique vieb to my room. Out of the ones the artist showed me, I found Vasa to be the most beatiful and exquisite, but he only told me it sank- which, to be fair, most famous and old ships eventually also did. When I got home I searched it's history to see if I picked, by chance and ramdomly, a famous ship that I was unaware of, and, since then, when I look at it, I always remember that fated failed maiden voyage. A monument fo failure, indeed! And a strong reminder against hastened enterprises and undertakings , whichever they might be.
@@DiscGoStu thanks. I've never traveled abroad, at least yet, but I do confess I'd be really curious about the real ship indeed. Specially one so well preserved and turned into museum
we have a local legend where i live that the engineer responsible for the blueprints fled up here to get away from the inquiries regarding why the ship sank
Well, I think it's a good museum. Everything is explained and even much more (the recovery and preservation). Although you need to read all information boards to get the full story and information.
It wasn't the weight of the guns really, but the weight of all the timbers that made up the second gun deck. It was over- dimensioned and too tall. The weight of the guns is only about 5% of Vasa's displacement weight, wich is well within the "safe" margin for a warship of this size. Vasa was built too tall, wich is a style that carried over from earlier types of ships, where the taller ship had the tactical advantage in a boarding situation. Because Vasa was going to carry so many guns, they built the ship super sturdy with over-dimensioned timbers. It was this added weight of all the extra wood that made the ship so top-heavy. The physics involved in ship stability is way more complicated than described in this video. This has to do with the fact that a ship is a complex three-dimensional shape that gradually shanges it's shape (and therefore it's boyancy) relative to the water, as it tilts to the side. The understanding of these mechanisms weren't very developed att the time Vasa was built. What really makes Vasa unique wasn't that she tipped over and sank, lots of ships did this, but the fact she sank in a place uniquely suited to preserve a large wooden structure.
Yeah, Vasa seems like many many different things went wrong, each of which would have been detrimental, but they all came together to make one giant mess.
King Henry VIII's warship Mary Rose suffered a similar fate after he had her substantially rebuilt and fitted with heavy bronze cannons that she was never designed to carry.
Yes, its truly an awe inspiring experience to see her in (almost) the same condition she launched in. Coincidentally, congratulations on being subscriber number 3000!
I had just heard about the Vasa recently. This is an excellent explanation of what happened and why; informative but to-the-point. Your presentation was very professional and reminded me of the science shows I would watch as a kid. All the best.
Who sank the Vasa? Design by committee sank the Vasa. They took a good original design and kept messing with it and expanding it until it was unstable.
I just found your channel, and the quality of production seems higher than many productions that I've seen on TV. I hope some network or executive sees your productions and invests. I hope you make it big. Cheers! :) P.S. Keep up the amazing work! :D
Yeah I could see that going well. Inquest - We have come to the conclusion that the ships design laid down by his Royal highness is the cause of the sinking of the Vasa. The ship was over loaded with decoration and cannon and put into an unsuitable vessel. King - Throw these lords into jail to stand trial for treason against the king!
Gustav II Adolf wanted the ship to join in protecting his invasion fleet of Ducal Prussia (East Prussia) as the Courlanders (as the Prussians a Polish vassal at the time) had a powerful navy. Sweden's involvement in th 30 years' war started 1630, after the invasion of Prussia had ended in a favourable cease fire with the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and its vassals.
There'll probably be a few comments about the Mary Rose, which did exactly the same thing in Henry VIII's time in 1545 in the Solent. maryrose.org/blog/historical/museum-blogger/the-first-battle-of-the-mary-rose/ She capsized while fighting the French as she was turning between firing broadsides. Although older, dating from 1510, she had also been rebuilt, making her unstable which was to be her undoing for just the same reasons. A lot less of her survives, but when she was raised, it gave an amazing opportunity for study. Robert Hardy who played Cornelius Fudge in the HP movies, but at the time was famous for playing Seigfried Farnon in All Creatures Great And Small, was also a world expert on longbows and was called up for input into boxes of longbows found amongst her armaments.
I have a small cast model of the Vasa. About 30cm long. It was used by my grandfather's company on trade show stands to illustrate how their companies pumps, pumped the water out just after the Vasa was brought back to the surface and kept afloat when the ship was recovered. It was good to see some history relating to it Cheers.
He did make it seem like if the centre of gravity was above the centre of buoyancy then the ship was unstable and likely to capsize. Most ships are designed with a centre of gravity above the centre of buoyancy. Just the hull of a ship should be designed so that the centre of buoyancy moves outwards faster than the centre of gravity so the resultant moment rights the ship.
This is probably an early example of Groupthink at work again, I think. Nobody was brave enough to tell the King his ship specs were stupid, and so the ship sank.
I have a bit to add. Yes you are 100% correct (if my memory serves me correctly) that the boat was too narrow after some modifications had been made. But ONLY this fact would probably not have been enough to tollaly doom the ship. You missed one thing, the seconed gun deck. (again, if my memory serves me correctly) The seconed gun deck was added to the ship in the middle of production (on demand of the Swedish king) and the ship designers knew all along (now as well with the very very narrow keel) that the ship would be very unstable but the ship designers also knew it would be suicide to dissmiss the kings order as impossible. So one thing led to another and now the ship sailed with a way too narrow keel (I belive that's what it's called. The narrow keel was also on order of the Swedish king btw) and one more gun deck, it now sank like a rock. The ship was NOT doomed from the start, but this was not the same ship they had from the start. And that's the reason why it sank in the end. In a way the king(s) was the only person who really sank the ship (in my opinion). Thanks for reading the comment, love ya videos!
I expected it to be a simple thing ie the gun ports, but it was alot more complicated than that. (sort of like life can be in many things). Great video. I'm glad your video showed up in my recommended today.
I've always had a soft spot for the Vasa. I remember a library book from my childhood, probably in 1970 or so, about the great ship. I have an image in my head of a tearful Vasa on the seafloor. Ever since I've wanted to go see her.
In Sweden the tale often goes that the king demanded a ship with more and more cannons which is what sank it. We infer from it both to question what we are told to do and the concept of ”Lagom” or in moderation/ just enough.
Thanks for the support! Just about to finish up on another filming expedition so lots more coming soon! Make sure to check out the "best of" playlist while you wait :D
My thought process when seeing the thumbnail was "sank the what? Eh, im not really up for an obscure history tidbit. Oh, atomic frontier? This will definitely be good" A boat sinking in port is such a strange event. Its weird how casually it seems to drift over, until it's fallen, and suddenly it's an emergency. This was a lot less tragic than the SS Eastland though
Thanks! Yes, I really like to script the majority of the video beforehand and then make adjustments if needed. Makes it less stressful when filming, and ensures that I won't miss anything.
4:50 Here's the answer to they mystery. They used an existing under construction boat keel rather than a starting from scratch. This made the boat unstable.
I think we all can agree that it would have been much greater to see how she did in War before sinking.. Would’ve been nice to see how she dealt with other ”top tier” ships at the time:/
Gustav II Adolf wanted the ship to be ready to protect convoys for his campaign in East Prussia/Ducal Prussia against Poland-Lithuania, the Swedish involvement in the 30 years' war did not come until 2 years later in 1630. The Wasa was never the flagship of the Swedish navy, even if it was one of the most powerful ships when put in the water. In order to be a flagship, a ship needs to take aboard an admiral or other fleet commander. Again, Sweden did not get involved in the 30 years' war until 1630 - the Wasa was built (along with her sister, Äpplet) in order to counter the Courlandish navy (Courland was a vassal of Poland-Lithuania) and possibly the Danish navy. The Wasa had a really heavy upper battery, and was built heavy on the upper deck to carry those guns, which made her too top-heavy. The design was of the shallow draught Dutch type (with a flat bottom), which further increased instability, the added length was not really a problem - the heavy upper battery and heavy timbers to accomodate it was.
As a result of the sinking, the King established a cabinet with the purpose of looking into military systems and how they work together as a system, in this case ship + cannons. That cabinet is today a governmental agency with the same mission. FMV, who assess all purchases of military and some civil defense equipment.
The king sunk her because he decided to basically pile on a load of decoupage stuff, rather than focusing on her practicality as a warship. She was already carrying some weight with her guns, so the rest of her design should have incorporated that. There really is something to be said for 'no frills' design and engineering, only put in what you need, leave out what you don't.
They did I think, but the king approved the plans personally and was impatient to see his ship completed. At the end of the day, nobody had the gall to tell him, and this was the result.
It was also one of the first ships built with two gun decks, at a time when no one truly understood the theory of shipbuilding physics, other than based on experience. The king absolutely insisted on having a flagship with two gun decks because that was hyper-modern and hyper-cool; and the Swedish shipbuilders had next to no experience or understanding on how to actually build a tall, heavy ship like that.
Obviously, in hindsight, a lot could be said about the design and construction of the ship and of course, it doesn't matter what improvements we could recommend at this point since no one really builds ships like these anymore. But wouldn't an easy solution to increase the stability of the ship be to just nail on a structure similar to a torpedo bulge? To attach them, they could have made a brace like an upsidedown horse saddle and have the ship wear it like a diaper. They could further reinforce it by cutting holes in the lower hull of the ship and running beams perpendicular to the length of the ship. It might have ended up looking like the French battleship Charles Martel.
it was far from uncommon for ships of the time to get refits when they came in for their first big repairs. Some ships were more stable than others, and ships that were found to be a bit 'rocky', were often altered during their refits. Methods varied from nailing extra thick planks to the ship at the waterline to slightly increase the effective width to stripping off the planking, adding bolsters to the frames at the waterline to make it fatter and put the planking on over that. At least in the UK, for several reasons (many about financial trickery and who's supposed to pay for what type of work in the government), for a long time rather than breaking up old ships and building new ones, old ships were literally taken apart, and 'rebuilt', i.e. reassembling with every worn timber replaced and often with the design altered and modernized, too. Overall, with firepower being so important, many navies fell into some sort of pattern of cramming too many guns unto their ships, and once their building standards were changed against the resistance of those who had to pay for the ships, and the builders were allowed to increase the size, width and tonnage of a given class of ships, someone invariably immediately thought 'oh great, let's use that spare buoyancy and stability to house more/bigger guns!", restarting the cycle again, over and over.
god bless tom scott for platforming such incredible creators such as yourself. great work on this!
That’s got to be the worst pirate I’ve ever seen
@Emil Johansson it's a quote from a movie
Thats not a good thing to say its a good ship!
*LOUD PIRATE MUSIC PLAYS*
So it would seem...
but you have heard of me
I went to that museum when I was 16yo and it was wonderful seeing the only "living" vessel from that time. Now I'm about to finish my Naval Architect degree.
good on you
I was in the museum in 1998..I cant remember being allowed INSIDE the vessel in the cargo hold..
Or is this a copy room ?
@@oddballsok That is a copy room, I was there last summer. There is probably a lot of things that are new since 1998 and I would very much recommend visiting again if possible!
And no, they won't let anyone on the ship for obvious reasons :)
good luck
@@Helperbot-2000 What, in case it sinks again? ( Joke)
much better than history channel...they would've said aliens sank it 👽
If we look at this plank here from the Vasa ship. You can just barely see the face of an alien. Does this mean Vasa was sunk by ancient aliens from outer space? Ancient Astronaut Theorists say Yes. xd
It was made with hyperresistant alien wood planks.
But how do you know it wasnt Aliens? After all, the Vasa had refrences to ancient Egypt carved on her and as we all know, Aliens built the Pyramids of Egypt
@@abohassan238I asked them and the aliens said it wasn't them because they had movie night and they weren't gonna miss it to play with some wooden ship.
Ancient astronaut theorists
That's almost exactly the kind of thing you'd find on a well funded TV show. I hope you guys get lots of funding and your own show, you've definitely earned it. Some executives need to see this.
I hope he gets funding in any and all ways, but forget the execs. This guy needs freedom. This was great documentation - executives would ruin his style and message
2:00 Missed opportunity: "If we assume a perfectly cylindrical Vasa..."
As a Swede that have been to the museum and heard other things from the ship due to it being a very historical thing. This explanation was really well done.
Yeah i know it was something like the germans built the left side and the dutch did the right but the thing was that they used different measurements which caused the sinking.
I'm so sad that I wasn't there when I visited Sweden
@@somedrytoast2307 When an anon poster makes an unsubstantiated, unsourced, claim online, the rational thing is to ignore it as "noise". Failing that, check his claim. I did, he's full of it. Liar or stupid or just misinformed, it doesn't matter, his claim is nonsensical bullshit.
2:00 My gods it is a good thing you wore safety glasses for that experiment, you absolute madlad!
Jk. I know, it is a general rule. Well made documentary! good use of the museum resources too
Haha, thanks! We'd been annoying the lab supervisor with the Mars videos (something about too many explosions and misuse of hydrogen gas) so decided to play it extra safe for this one!
The Material Safety Data Sheet for water advises if you get it in your eyes, flush with water. Not even joking.
@@MrJeffcoley1 you never know how much dihydrogenmonoxide there is in the water…
Nice production quality and very informative!
i remember seeing this in a museum in Stockholm. it was so obvious why it sank, it was so mad top heavy. why did they think that this thing was seaworthy?!?
There's been loads of thoughts _(proof really)_ that the Vasa family suffered from genetic insanity.
People were most likely to afraid to warn the king, because any hate on his ideas = off with their heads :P
@@Schmorgus Well, I wouldn't say that they didn't wanna tell him that because they were scared because they thought that he was mad. Gustav the II Adulf was beloved by the swedes (and still is). From what I read he seemed to be a perfectly functioning person (who was a brilliant general as well), I think that they just didn't wanna tell the king that the ship that he ordered and invested a sh*t load of money on not to work so they just went along hoping that somebody else would take the blame until it became soo big that nobody could be blamed. Not even Gustav because all he basically sed was "hey can you build me a giant ship, I'll give you as much money as you need"
@@nuralibolataev4474 Well. He increased his own power, and the nobility's. He increased taxes for personal wealth, and common people had a rough time during his reign. The ship didn't even pass the basic stability-test, but the king payed the correct people to push the launch to show off the ship against Poland. That shows that even if he himself was shown as a good king according to some history, looking behind him, he used his nobility, most likely to threaten and kill in order to get what he wanted. He even stated that he was "equal to god". IMO he knew how to use political power in order to look good while silencing those who opposed him, but behind the curtains, he was as insane as his fathers before him. I'm swedish, and he might be loved by the far right due to his expanding wars. But he's not loved as a king of the common people :P
@@Schmorgus Well, he kinda needed to increase his own power to stabilize the political situation in Sweden because he entered the 30yers war on the protestant side in a time when the protestants were getting their ass handed to them so he couldn't afford any political strife back home when he was campaigning in Germany. And increasing taxes was easily justifiable because you know war isn't cheap, he needed the money to pay upkeep for his troops and their supplies and to garner political support in mainland Europe. The point of increasing his own wealth is kinda weird because he was out campaigning pretty much all the money from the taxes went into the war, and sure he's campaigning conditions ware much much much better than the average soldier, but that doesn't change the fact that the money he used pretty much all went into the war effort one-way or another. The thing with the Vassa put yourself in his shoes for a moment you are in a brutal conflict with a much larger enemy and you need to improve your military including your navy therefor you decide to create the greatest warship on the face of the earth, so you ask your best experts and they say that they can do it so you give them all the money they need but you need the ship asap so you give them a deadline with they said that they can handle. you don't know how a ship work but all the expert say that it will work so you trust them because they know what they are talking about. It's not your fault that everything went down the shitter now, is it?
@@nuralibolataev4474 Well, the 30 year war wasn't justified, other than the kings beliefs. People didn't want the war :P And the ship was built to "impress" Poland. Wich at the time wasn't important due to other conflicts.
Good content. Comfortable length, good production, well researched and likeable presenter. Thank you and keep it up!
The Swedish king saved a lot of lives by sinking his own ship before the enemy could do so 😉😁
The Swedish justice system was surprisingly good at that time by NOT blaming the lowest guy in the picking order.
It was good timing.
A good king, good generals, high public morale, good ministers, all at the same time( rare)
I went to see it in 2001 when I was 11, it’s massive and brilliantly crafted. Shame but at least it lasted all this time. A must go if you ever visit Stockholm.
it couldnt even resist a weak breeze, id say its a terrible construction
@@FullOilBarrel Good construction, bad design, haha!
@@proxythe1337 good construction? The frigid waters preserved it until it can be raised again, I wouldn’t call it good construction.
I just saw it the other day and pictures and RUclips videos don’t do it justice!
Even though it was a great embarrassment and unfortunate disaster, it's fortunate that we in modern times get to experience a preserved real authentic warship from 1628. If the ship would've seen actual warfare it most likely would've ended up damaged and scuttled eventually.
It's a win and a loss no matter how I look at it.
Three or two years ago, I bought a illustration of Vasa and put it into a frame and hanged it on the wall beside of my bed. I knew nothing about famous vessels of this period, but I wanted one that seemed very elegant and that gave that old antique vieb to my room. Out of the ones the artist showed me, I found Vasa to be the most beatiful and exquisite, but he only told me it sank- which, to be fair, most famous and old ships eventually also did. When I got home I searched it's history to see if I picked, by chance and ramdomly, a famous ship that I was unaware of, and, since then, when I look at it, I always remember that fated failed maiden voyage. A monument fo failure, indeed! And a strong reminder against hastened enterprises and undertakings , whichever they might be.
That’s an awesome story! You should head over to Stockholm and see it in person, it’s really unbelievable even though you known it’s real 🇸🇪
@@DiscGoStu thanks. I've never traveled abroad, at least yet, but I do confess I'd be really curious about the real ship indeed. Specially one so well preserved and turned into museum
we have a local legend where i live that the engineer responsible for the blueprints fled up here to get away from the inquiries regarding why the ship sank
Thank you for this video! It is very informative and very qualitative! I'm looking forward to watch more content created by you!
Woah I just realised how much subs you have and you definitely deserve more. Such high quality for such little subs and extremely informative.
Thanks Trex! Ever new sub helps, especially when trying to get into weird places arround the world.
As a Swede, I have visited Vasamuseet several times. I learned more from this
Well, I think it's a good museum. Everything is explained and even much more (the recovery and preservation). Although you need to read all information boards to get the full story and information.
Nice job, James! Very impressed with what you're doing.
It wasn't the weight of the guns really, but the weight of all the timbers that made up the second gun deck. It was over- dimensioned and too tall.
The weight of the guns is only about 5% of Vasa's displacement weight, wich is well within the "safe" margin for a warship of this size.
Vasa was built too tall, wich is a style that carried over from earlier types of ships, where the taller ship had the tactical advantage in a boarding situation.
Because Vasa was going to carry so many guns, they built the ship super sturdy with over-dimensioned timbers. It was this added weight of all the extra wood that made the ship so top-heavy.
The physics involved in ship stability is way more complicated than described in this video.
This has to do with the fact that a ship is a complex three-dimensional shape that gradually shanges it's shape (and therefore it's boyancy) relative to the water, as it tilts to the side.
The understanding of these mechanisms weren't very developed att the time Vasa was built.
What really makes Vasa unique wasn't that she tipped over and sank, lots of ships did this, but the fact she sank in a place uniquely suited to preserve a large wooden structure.
Yeah, Vasa seems like many many different things went wrong, each of which would have been detrimental, but they all came together to make one giant mess.
King Henry VIII's warship Mary Rose suffered a similar fate after he had her substantially rebuilt and fitted with heavy bronze cannons that she was never designed to carry.
Yup, that’s a career in presenting/narrating for sure. I really enjoyed that.
Thanks Aaron! Really means a lot.. especially during exam season! Nice backup if fluid mechanics doesn't go too well :p
Found your channel following the video you did on Australian bushfire satellites for Tom Scott.
Excellent work.
Totally amazing that 400 years underwater have barely affected this beautiful ship. ... SUBSCRIBED!
Yes, its truly an awe inspiring experience to see her in (almost) the same condition she launched in. Coincidentally, congratulations on being subscriber number 3000!
@@AtomicFrontier Keep producing videos like THIS and you'll be congratulating Subscriber number 3 MILLION soon enough! .... cheers.
Great video, honestly i learned more by watching this, than 2 months of online physics classes.
This ship was my obsession for a large part of my childhood. I will never loose the fascination for these kinds of ships.
"who sank the vasa?"
Me: gravity!
No, bad engineering
I had just heard about the Vasa recently. This is an excellent explanation of what happened and why; informative but to-the-point. Your presentation was very professional and reminded me of the science shows I would watch as a kid. All the best.
they found one of her sister ships sunk in the archipelago recenty -now they got 2 of 3
@@jari2018 That's neat! I didn't know she had sister ships.
@@KyleOfCanada ruclips.net/video/P7axBG73HQE/видео.html . this is the video
@@jari2018 Thanks for the link. All the best.
I really enjoyed this video! keep up the good work!
Who sank the Vasa? Design by committee sank the Vasa. They took a good original design and kept messing with it and expanding it until it was unstable.
More of these, thanks.
This video has so much quality and effort put into it
First Swede Screams: ”How did Vasa sink?”
All other Swedes: Bottom Up! Skål!
Everyone swallows their glass of Aquavit or Bäska droppar. 👌👌 🇸🇪 🇸🇪
I just found your channel, and the quality of production seems higher than many productions that I've seen on TV. I hope some network or executive sees your productions and invests. I hope you make it big. Cheers! :)
P.S. Keep up the amazing work! :D
Yeah I could see that going well.
Inquest - We have come to the conclusion that the ships design laid down by his Royal highness is the cause of the sinking of the Vasa. The ship was over loaded with decoration and cannon and put into an unsuitable vessel.
King - Throw these lords into jail to stand trial for treason against the king!
Gustav II Adolf wanted the ship to join in protecting his invasion fleet of Ducal Prussia (East Prussia) as the Courlanders (as the Prussians a Polish vassal at the time) had a powerful navy. Sweden's involvement in th 30 years' war started 1630, after the invasion of Prussia had ended in a favourable cease fire with the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and its vassals.
There'll probably be a few comments about the Mary Rose, which did exactly the same thing in Henry VIII's time in 1545 in the Solent.
maryrose.org/blog/historical/museum-blogger/the-first-battle-of-the-mary-rose/
She capsized while fighting the French as she was turning between firing broadsides. Although older, dating from 1510, she had also been rebuilt, making her unstable which was to be her undoing for just the same reasons. A lot less of her survives, but when she was raised, it gave an amazing opportunity for study. Robert Hardy who played Cornelius Fudge in the HP movies, but at the time was famous for playing Seigfried Farnon in All Creatures Great And Small, was also a world expert on longbows and was called up for input into boxes of longbows found amongst her armaments.
Excellent production and presentation thank you!
Amazing video ..... why do you have very few subscribers ??? ... you really deseve more
Love your work!
An unbelievable part of History. Fantastic.
I have a small cast model of the Vasa. About 30cm long.
It was used by my grandfather's company on trade show stands to illustrate how their companies pumps, pumped the water out just after the Vasa was brought back to the surface and kept afloat when the ship was recovered.
It was good to see some history relating to it
Cheers.
He did make it seem like if the centre of gravity was above the centre of buoyancy then the ship was unstable and likely to capsize.
Most ships are designed with a centre of gravity above the centre of buoyancy.
Just the hull of a ship should be designed so that the centre of buoyancy moves outwards faster than the centre of gravity so the resultant moment rights the ship.
This is probably an early example of Groupthink at work again, I think.
Nobody was brave enough to tell the King his ship specs were stupid, and so the ship sank.
Really well done video. the ending is improvable tho lol
This is informative and explained in a way that most of us can understand. Great!
Great explanation bro 👍
Great video! Greetings from Sweden.
Good content. Subbed!
This was excellently presented 👏🏻
Thank you for this! I love history along with science!!!!
Man you nailed this small documentary.
Thanks!!
I've never seen a ship sink another quite as effectively as the Vasa sunk itself
Exellent Video👌
Oh damn this is some pretty high quality content man! Keep up the good work! U definitely earned a sub from me :D
Really well made. Thank you!
An outstanding presentation, young man.
Thanks for the video:)
I have a bit to add. Yes you are 100% correct (if my memory serves me correctly) that the boat was too narrow after some modifications had been made. But ONLY this fact would probably not have been enough to tollaly doom the ship. You missed one thing, the seconed gun deck. (again, if my memory serves me correctly) The seconed gun deck was added to the ship in the middle of production (on demand of the Swedish king) and the ship designers knew all along (now as well with the very very narrow keel) that the ship would be very unstable but the ship designers also knew it would be suicide to dissmiss the kings order as impossible.
So one thing led to another and now the ship sailed with a way too narrow keel (I belive that's what it's called. The narrow keel was also on order of the Swedish king btw) and one more gun deck, it now sank like a rock. The ship was NOT doomed from the start, but this was not the same ship they had from the start. And that's the reason why it sank in the end. In a way the king(s) was the only person who really sank the ship (in my opinion).
Thanks for reading the comment, love ya videos!
I’ve seen her atleast 10 times. I’m always impressed by her. Wish that the gun ports where placed higher up though...
Subscriber 704, checking in. Excellent content, I cant wait to see what you produce next.
Hi! Thanks for joining us :)
The Swedes. The Dutch designer calculated another distribution of weights of the gunnery. Being instable she capsized and sunk.
I expected it to be a simple thing ie the gun ports, but it was alot more complicated than that. (sort of like life can be in many things). Great video. I'm glad your video showed up in my recommended today.
Thanks Mike, glad it made you think
I've always had a soft spot for the Vasa. I remember a library book from my childhood, probably in 1970 or so, about the great ship. I have an image in my head of a tearful Vasa on the seafloor. Ever since I've wanted to go see her.
Excellently explained.
De jó kis történet, köszönöm.
this is a pretty good vid mate nice work
Thanks for the support!
In Sweden the tale often goes that the king demanded a ship with more and more cannons which is what sank it. We infer from it both to question what we are told to do and the concept of ”Lagom” or in moderation/ just enough.
Excellent stuff
How does this channel have only 3000 subscribers? The quality is amazing
Thanks for the support! Just about to finish up on another filming expedition so lots more coming soon! Make sure to check out the "best of" playlist while you wait :D
Great video 👍
Thanks Ob! More boat-disaster videos coming soon
Dang I when I clicked on this video I did. It expect it to be this high quality!
My thought process when seeing the thumbnail was "sank the what? Eh, im not really up for an obscure history tidbit. Oh, atomic frontier? This will definitely be good"
A boat sinking in port is such a strange event. Its weird how casually it seems to drift over, until it's fallen, and suddenly it's an emergency. This was a lot less tragic than the SS Eastland though
ive been to this museum! its amazing
6:30 - The king was to blame for the Vasa to sink. He was in a hurry to see it sail! He ignored every person who said the design was flawed.
avesome topic, very well explained. thank you
Great video. Looks like you did all the prep before visiting Stockholm and had the script ready.
Thanks! Yes, I really like to script the majority of the video beforehand and then make adjustments if needed. Makes it less stressful when filming, and ensures that I won't miss anything.
4:50 Here's the answer to they mystery. They used an existing under construction boat keel rather than a starting from scratch. This made the boat unstable.
I think we all can agree that it would have been much greater to see how she did in War before sinking..
Would’ve been nice to see how she dealt with other ”top tier” ships at the time:/
Who Sank the Vasa? a gust of wind LOL
You went to Sweden to film on location but couldn't find anyone that could tell you how to pronounce skeppsgården?
Jag tror det är näst intill omöjligt för en engelsktalande.
(I think that’s pretty much impossible for an English speaker.)
@@adorabasilwinterpock6035 Förvisso, men det går att komma närmare än "Skips garden"
Great video!
Gustav II Adolf wanted the ship to be ready to protect convoys for his campaign in East Prussia/Ducal Prussia against Poland-Lithuania, the Swedish involvement in the 30 years' war did not come until 2 years later in 1630.
The Wasa was never the flagship of the Swedish navy, even if it was one of the most powerful ships when put in the water. In order to be a flagship, a ship needs to take aboard an admiral or other fleet commander.
Again, Sweden did not get involved in the 30 years' war until 1630 - the Wasa was built (along with her sister, Äpplet) in order to counter the Courlandish navy (Courland was a vassal of Poland-Lithuania) and possibly the Danish navy.
The Wasa had a really heavy upper battery, and was built heavy on the upper deck to carry those guns, which made her too top-heavy. The design was of the shallow draught Dutch type (with a flat bottom), which further increased instability, the added length was not really a problem - the heavy upper battery and heavy timbers to accomodate it was.
As a result of the sinking, the King established a cabinet with the purpose of looking into military systems and how they work together as a system, in this case ship + cannons. That cabinet is today a governmental agency with the same mission. FMV, who assess all purchases of military and some civil defense equipment.
Wow, thats really interesting, thanks for sharing!
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@@tomasgidlof9545 yes, but sadly the site doesn't tell people about the extensive history leading up to the creation of their organization.
Imagine being there seeing your country’s Navy’s flagship sail out of the bay in a magnificent gust but then she said into the water
I saw this it was so dang cool
Just got back visiting this versa on 2023. A priceless artwork, Because of Kings mistake, this made the Sweden as a famous tourist attractions.
Ive been in that muzeum about a year ago
good video
Just to narrow to handle the displacement. Liked your show very much!
I always wear safety glasses when I am using water too. Water is very dangerous.
The king sunk her because he decided to basically pile on a load of decoupage stuff, rather than focusing on her practicality as a warship. She was already carrying some weight with her guns, so the rest of her design should have incorporated that. There really is something to be said for 'no frills' design and engineering, only put in what you need, leave out what you don't.
Back in those days, these ships weren't just vessels of war, they were works of art!
Good content
Great documentary, but it seems the end is missing?
Reason why vasa sank: too heavy
Incredible engineering failure! How could they not have forseen that?
They did I think, but the king approved the plans personally and was impatient to see his ship completed. At the end of the day, nobody had the gall to tell him, and this was the result.
Because Ikea wasn't around
How could Tjernobyl happen? Same answer.
Well, the Vasa family was genetically insane. Just look at their ruling years. Pure madness.
It was also one of the first ships built with two gun decks, at a time when no one truly understood the theory of shipbuilding physics, other than based on experience. The king absolutely insisted on having a flagship with two gun decks because that was hyper-modern and hyper-cool; and the Swedish shipbuilders had next to no experience or understanding on how to actually build a tall, heavy ship like that.
Obviously, in hindsight, a lot could be said about the design and construction of the ship and of course, it doesn't matter what improvements we could recommend at this point since no one really builds ships like these anymore. But wouldn't an easy solution to increase the stability of the ship be to just nail on a structure similar to a torpedo bulge? To attach them, they could have made a brace like an upsidedown horse saddle and have the ship wear it like a diaper. They could further reinforce it by cutting holes in the lower hull of the ship and running beams perpendicular to the length of the ship. It might have ended up looking like the French battleship Charles Martel.
But think of the cost, mate! Better to just test it and see what happens :)
it was far from uncommon for ships of the time to get refits when they came in for their first big repairs. Some ships were more stable than others, and ships that were found to be a bit 'rocky', were often altered during their refits. Methods varied from nailing extra thick planks to the ship at the waterline to slightly increase the effective width to stripping off the planking, adding bolsters to the frames at the waterline to make it fatter and put the planking on over that.
At least in the UK, for several reasons (many about financial trickery and who's supposed to pay for what type of work in the government), for a long time rather than breaking up old ships and building new ones, old ships were literally taken apart, and 'rebuilt', i.e. reassembling with every worn timber replaced and often with the design altered and modernized, too.
Overall, with firepower being so important, many navies fell into some sort of pattern of cramming too many guns unto their ships, and once their building standards were changed against the resistance of those who had to pay for the ships, and the builders were allowed to increase the size, width and tonnage of a given class of ships, someone invariably immediately thought 'oh great, let's use that spare buoyancy and stability to house more/bigger guns!", restarting the cycle again, over and over.
I was in that museum and they tould us that they accused the ships architect for sinking it, who was dead by the time the ship was launched.
The perfect scapegoat!
When it's the king's fault and he's a humble king, that means it was nobody's fault. Probably the best outcome of the inquiry, tbh.