I completely forget I'm watching youtube with these videos - it's like i'm watching a documentary on the discovery channel. The production quality is so good. Even though i've no wish to make my own bow, as an archer (recurve freestyle in my case) I find these videos fascinating. Keep up the great work!
I discovered your bow-making videos a year ago. I immediately nipped down to the woods and cut about fifteen staves. They’ve been drying out in the barn. I’ll bring them indoors now, and make a bench. Almost ready to start. I harvested one beast of a stave because my eventual aim is to make a 170lbs warbow. Not to use (obviously) but to demonstrate to me and my guests just how mighty were these weapons.
Always interesting Mick . The humility to point people in the direction of others you regard as more skilled or informed is a top level teaching skill/tool . Compliments to you.
Wow you did it again Best video I have seen so far on tillering You are a very very special person Thank you so very much Be well may life treat you with much success and love Herb In USA
Making these bows truly is a work of art rather than a learnt skill . So much depends on feel and sense . Once finished if you're lucky enough to shoot or even own such a bow the difference in use compared to a mass produced or modetn material bow is huge . It is an experience thst is hard to describe , you can feel the art of the bowyer in each shot . I have no skill or knowledge to even attempt such a task but I can appreciate the skill as an end user . well done Mick wish I had the strength to use it . Looking forward to watching it getting drawn in "anger" LOL .
Good video. Thanks for the information , I've actually made bows before but you have given me some technics I didn't know previous to viewing your video. 👍
@@MickGrewcock Why, you're doing a great job, keep it up. Use smaller climbing rope for your pulley, it doesn't break so easy. You can by it by the Mtr at Go Outdoors. Mine is 8 years old and still going strong
Thank you Lee. Guess I am lacking confidence due to being entirely self taught. Thank you for the rope tip. Awesome bow you tillered, couldn't help but link your video in my description.
Congratulations on a great video. You have a lot of patience and time to put these together, I'm not sure if viewers recognize how much time it takes to do the tillering , film the tillering process in a way that captures everything involved , and then edit it into a concise and cohesive video.
You have inspired me to start my first bow. I chose A sugar maple sapling. 2inches in diameter and 25 years old. Its a more traditional bow wood used by the Mi'kmaq of Eastern Canada.
Nice work Mick, I think you tillered that bow well...although to me it still looks a little hard through the handle. It is a good idea to tiller a bit over the desired draw weight as the poundage will creep down as the bow beds in.
I think you are right Keith but I have sanding to do and will have it back on the tiller for that. I had to finish it because I'm away soon and ran out of time to take the bow all the way. But I reckon it is only slight to my eyes. It's very front-end heavy just now and needs plenty of work to ease it up a tad. Good weekend, thank you for watching. Mick
@@MickGrewcock You are doing a nice job on it Mick...you might find easing the tips a little more will ease it some, plus lighter tips to the limbs shouldn't be too drastic with the draw weight and will make for a faster bow. Away again!!...You "Snow birds" do rack up the air miles lol. You have a good one too Mick.
Another delightful series on your channel, Mick! I really enjoyed seeing the scale get launched, especially since I had wondered about the sash cord during your tool introduction. I may have missed the info on the wood species in the trilam... hickory? osage? lemonwood? I second the use of the cabinet scraper over the rasp in late stage tillering, broken glass chips also work well.
Hello Mick, liked your video's, they will be very informative to the novice bowier. However you didn't mention how they are going to feel the next day after all that pulling. Lol The block of wood you use too check the high spots, I do the same only I use a smaller block of wood with a screw running through it. The point only just points through, plus it's adjustable, but you can feel the drag over the wood at the high points making it easier to mark.
Mick, this was, as always, MAGNIFICENT. You have a beautiful new bow there. If I may ask, what woods are used in the tri-laminate stave? Thanks again for brightening my downtime hours with an amazing video!
Once i read about the english longbow, that one of its advantages is, that it's even circular bending, spreads the stress evenly over the whole bow lenght. This must be a missconception because, at an even circular bending, stress is proportional to the thickness of the bow. Will say, stress has its maximum in the handle. At an even circular bending, the stress would be spread even if the thickness was also even over the whole bowlenght. Therefore a quite strange profile in width would be needed. That's just one of many missconceptions about the "glorious english longbow" and i ask myself, if this design has any advantages over other bow designs at all !?
4:50 Twist in the bow, 95% of the time when you notice a twist in the bow its because the belly is too high in proportion to the width (especially with full compass bows) , scrape off the top of the D shape to see if that does the job. Also if its only slight you don't need to scrape the belly, put it back on the tiller and twist the bow with your hands and work it. This will stretch the fibres on one side of the bow more than the other and will remove the twist, it also saves you losing bow weight from scraping the belly ;-) This method works with laminate bows and self bows too. You tend to get sideways twist when the backing is on edge and the rings are running off a bit.
Thank you Lee. I have discovered the width/depth issue, and I have flexed bows sideways to try and teach them back in to line - though I never realised it was a 'pukka' way of doing it. This one wasn't so bad, slight over width particularly in one limb. Never actually made a laminate bow so the forces at work within them remain a mystery to me! Thank you. Your input is appreciated very much. Mick
Backing looks like ash on edge, Core looks like Pau Amerillo (yellowheart ) but not 100% sure,colour looks about right but not sure looking at the grain structure, Belly looks like Ipe
@@MickGrewcock Edge grained Ash for the look? You had me guessing about the core wood. Given that there's no twist in the run of the grain in the core, if there was a problem developing I would first look to see that the belly x-section was not going out of kilter. My preference would be to come in a little overweight and then carefully bring it down by reducing the width. I don't like that the laminations aren't thickness tapered and the relative positioning of the nocks seems to be a bit random. 105 lbs not a "real war bow"?
Excellent vids Mick 🤗. Youve given me the bow making urge again now 😄. Ive got lemonwood, some hickory backing strips and a piece of wood that was left over from a bridge that was built over a river absolutely years ago that has not aged at all, is damn heavy, and is really hard and kills handsaws, is not purpleheart and I suspect it is ipe by the look of your stave there 🤔. If I can manage to saw it I will try making a longy with it. Anyone on here know what glue to use with ipe ? I used to use cascamite for hickory and lemonwood bows but suspect that it wont be any good for glueing ipe 🤔. Ps Are we going to get to see a vid of this one in all its glory launching arrows into orbit Mick ?🙂
Yes you'll see it in action in the next month or so - got a biggish project on for some weeks now. Can't comment on glue I'm afraid but hopefully someone here will point you in the right direction.
It might be greenheart youve got your hands on, that kills saws too, good wood for the core of a laminate bow. Ipe is grainy like sand and had lots of natural oil like teak. Cascamite will work if you degrease with solvent before gluing up. Good luck.
@@davidhart8724 This wood is reddish brown colour, and looks to me the same as pics ive seen of ipe on youtube. I have not seen what greenheart looks like at all. It is definitely not purpleheart as I have a small chunk of that and used it to make arrow passes. Thanks for the degreasing info and I do have Cascamite 😊.
I completely forget I'm watching youtube with these videos - it's like i'm watching a documentary on the discovery channel. The production quality is so good. Even though i've no wish to make my own bow, as an archer (recurve freestyle in my case) I find these videos fascinating. Keep up the great work!
Slowly, you are a professional archer. You're one of my favorites on youtube, as an bow maker. Beautiful demonstration !!!
Keep up the good work. You are underestimating your abilities both as a boyer and as a teacher.
Thank you Rubi 🙏
Really wish I had your videos available back when I started bowmaking! Very informative and thorough.
I discovered your bow-making videos a year ago. I immediately nipped down to the woods and cut about fifteen staves. They’ve been drying out in the barn. I’ll bring them indoors now, and make a bench. Almost ready to start.
I harvested one beast of a stave because my eventual aim is to make a 170lbs warbow. Not to use (obviously) but to demonstrate to me and my guests just how mighty were these weapons.
Wow, 170lbs! Good luck with your bows. Mick
Always interesting Mick . The humility to point people in the direction of others you regard as more skilled or informed is a top level teaching skill/tool .
Compliments to you.
I agree you are underestimating your self you've showed me so much and explain whats going on keep the videos coming mick
Beautiful looking bow Mick - its so satisfying to be able to use something that you've made yourself
Thank you for not taking weeks for part 2!
Few vids ever had the impact on me, as your's... total pleasure.
Thank you, appreciated!
An excellent quality, informative production sir, as always.
Wow you did it again
Best video I have seen so far on tillering
You are a very very special person
Thank you so very much
Be well may life treat you with much success and love
Herb
In USA
awesome video mick thanks for passing this knowledge forward in a way our kids kids can enjoy as well bless you my friend and again great job
Thanks again Mick. Love your stuff and Richard Heads. Happy shooting!
Making these bows truly is a work of art rather than a learnt skill . So much depends on feel and sense . Once finished if you're lucky enough to shoot or even own such a bow the difference in use compared to a mass produced or modetn material bow is huge . It is an experience thst is hard to describe , you can feel the art of the bowyer in each shot . I have no skill or knowledge to even attempt such a task but I can appreciate the skill as an end user . well done Mick wish I had the strength to use it . Looking forward to watching it getting drawn in "anger" LOL .
Im brazilian and like so much of The your vídeos.
Good video. Thanks for the information , I've actually made bows before but you have given me some technics I didn't know previous to viewing your video. 👍
Thank you Gregory. We are all learning all the time - I know I am! Thanks for watching. Mick
Always a pleasure watching your videos Mick
Oh Wow! Thank you Lee. Means a lot. Expected to get shredded about these!
@@MickGrewcock Why, you're doing a great job, keep it up. Use smaller climbing rope for your pulley, it doesn't break so easy. You can by it by the Mtr at Go Outdoors. Mine is 8 years old and still going strong
Thank you Lee. Guess I am lacking confidence due to being entirely self taught. Thank you for the rope tip. Awesome bow you tillered, couldn't help but link your video in my description.
@@MickGrewcock Cheers Mick, I am also self taught but it helped a lot me being a Joiner to start with ;-)
Great journey Lee. Never worked in wood before (40+ years in electronics). All a new adventure for me. Stay safe (and greetings from Mumbai!) Mick
I had no idea that I needed this knowledge!
Hi Mick,Great video again,thanks for your hard work and sharing ,
Thanks for this great video ,I just purchased 2 warbow staves
Good luck with them Gary 👍
Excellent content Mick. Thank you
Congratulations on a great video. You have a lot of patience and time to put these together, I'm not sure if viewers recognize how much time it takes to do the tillering , film the tillering process in a way that captures everything involved , and then edit it into a concise and cohesive video.
I guess few realise what you say - these videos took over a week to make plus about 25 hours editing. And somewhere in there I tillered the bow!
Hope you do an update on this bow Mick. Nice work, looks really good.
Will do!
You have inspired me to start my first bow. I chose A sugar maple sapling. 2inches in diameter and 25 years old. Its a more traditional bow wood used by the Mi'kmaq of Eastern Canada.
Good luck - I wish you well! Mick
Nice tiller Mick!
Nice work Mick, I think you tillered that bow well...although to me it still looks a little hard through the handle. It is a good idea to tiller a bit over the desired draw weight as the poundage will creep down as the bow beds in.
I think you are right Keith but I have sanding to do and will have it back on the tiller for that. I had to finish it because I'm away soon and ran out of time to take the bow all the way. But I reckon it is only slight to my eyes. It's very front-end heavy just now and needs plenty of work to ease it up a tad. Good weekend, thank you for watching. Mick
@@MickGrewcock You are doing a nice job on it Mick...you might find easing the tips a little more will ease it some, plus lighter tips to the limbs shouldn't be too drastic with the draw weight and will make for a faster bow. Away again!!...You "Snow birds" do rack up the air miles lol. You have a good one too Mick.
More than two weeks passed! ???
Have a nice day !
Don’t worry Mihai! Been to India. Video coming soon - but this one is not about bows!!
Another delightful series on your channel, Mick! I really enjoyed seeing the scale get launched, especially since I had wondered about the sash cord during your tool introduction. I may have missed the info on the wood species in the trilam... hickory? osage? lemonwood? I second the use of the cabinet scraper over the rasp in late stage tillering, broken glass chips also work well.
Hi Dooley. It's ash backed, satinwood core and ipe belly. Thanks for watching, Mick
Hello Mick, liked your video's, they will be very informative to the novice bowier. However you didn't mention how they are going to feel the next day after all that pulling. Lol
The block of wood you use too check the high spots, I do the same only I use a smaller block of wood with a screw running through it. The point only just points through, plus it's adjustable, but you can feel the drag over the wood at the high points making it easier to mark.
Part Deux. Pretty bow.
Great channel! Ive been perusing around and landed here. The stave supplier doesn’t seem to ship to me here in the USA, bummer!
That’s a pity! But thanks for watching 🙏
Hi there, I do ship to the USA, feel free to email me for shipping costs
Do you have a video or educational series on video production?
I’m afraid not: sorry!
Mick, this was, as always, MAGNIFICENT. You have a beautiful new bow there. If I may ask, what woods are used in the tri-laminate stave? Thanks again for brightening my downtime hours with an amazing video!
Hi John, they are ash for the back, satinwood for the core and ipe for the belly. Take care, Mick
Once i read about the english longbow, that one of its advantages is, that it's even circular bending, spreads the stress evenly over the whole bow lenght.
This must be a missconception because, at an even circular bending, stress is proportional to the thickness of the bow. Will say, stress has its maximum in the handle. At an even circular bending, the stress would be spread even if the thickness was also even over the whole bowlenght. Therefore a quite strange profile in width would be needed.
That's just one of many missconceptions about the "glorious english longbow" and i ask myself, if this design has any advantages over other bow designs at all !?
4:50 Twist in the bow, 95% of the time when you notice a twist in the bow its because the belly is too high in proportion to the width (especially with full compass bows) , scrape off the top of the D shape to see if that does the job. Also if its only slight you don't need to scrape the belly, put it back on the tiller and twist the bow with your hands and work it. This will stretch the fibres on one side of the bow more than the other and will remove the twist, it also saves you losing bow weight from scraping the belly ;-) This method works with laminate bows and self bows too. You tend to get sideways twist when the backing is on edge and the rings are running off a bit.
Thank you Lee. I have discovered the width/depth issue, and I have flexed bows sideways to try and teach them back in to line - though I never realised it was a 'pukka' way of doing it. This one wasn't so bad, slight over width particularly in one limb. Never actually made a laminate bow so the forces at work within them remain a mystery to me! Thank you. Your input is appreciated very much. Mick
Super video)) Thank you 🇺🇦
Nice colours. What's the combination? Will be interested to see what you do with it after shooting it in..
Backing looks like ash on edge, Core looks like Pau Amerillo (yellowheart ) but not 100% sure,colour looks about right but not sure looking at the grain structure, Belly looks like Ipe
Belly is ipe, core satinwood, backing ash.
@@MickGrewcock Edge grained Ash for the look? You had me guessing about the core wood.
Given that there's no twist in the run of the grain in the core, if there was a problem developing I would first look to see that the belly x-section was not going out of kilter.
My preference would be to come in a little overweight and then carefully bring it down by reducing the width.
I don't like that the laminations aren't thickness tapered and the relative positioning of the nocks seems to be a bit random.
105 lbs not a "real war bow"?
Keep with the great videos. Keep learning! OH and make that holmegaard bow and step out of your comfort zone! :)
Okay, okay. Will do 😳😳😳
@@MickGrewcock Cheeky Elm sapling, go on I dare you!
Oh you little temptress!!
@@MickGrewcock I'll keep tempting you all 2019! Still think that Elder flatbow you wrestled with was by far the most interesting one I have seen.
Oh bugger. Sounds like I’m cornered ( spoken from behind the sofa...) ...
Excellent vids Mick 🤗. Youve given me the bow making urge again now 😄. Ive got lemonwood, some hickory backing strips and a piece of wood that was left over from a bridge that was built over a river absolutely years ago that has not aged at all, is damn heavy, and is really hard and kills handsaws, is not purpleheart and I suspect it is ipe by the look of your stave there 🤔. If I can manage to saw it I will try making a longy with it. Anyone on here know what glue to use with ipe ? I used to use cascamite for hickory and lemonwood bows but suspect that it wont be any good for glueing ipe 🤔.
Ps Are we going to get to see a vid of this one in all its glory launching arrows into orbit Mick ?🙂
Yes you'll see it in action in the next month or so - got a biggish project on for some weeks now. Can't comment on glue I'm afraid but hopefully someone here will point you in the right direction.
@@MickGrewcock Looking forward to the arrow flinging vid Mick 😎. Im sure the correct glue advice will turn up sooner or later 👍.
It might be greenheart youve got your hands on, that kills saws too, good wood for the core of a laminate bow. Ipe is grainy like sand and had lots of natural oil like teak. Cascamite will work if you degrease with solvent before gluing up. Good luck.
@@davidhart8724 This wood is reddish brown colour, and looks to me the same as pics ive seen of ipe on youtube. I have not seen what greenheart looks like at all. It is definitely not purpleheart as I have a small chunk of that and used it to make arrow passes. Thanks for the degreasing info and I do have Cascamite 😊.
@@davewebster6945 👍,watch out for crysals on ipe.
Sir, what is the name of your bow sting
It is Fast Flight by Brownell.
It's funny how the 2nd is posted before the first one
It wasn't! Posted simultaneously!
You will not be able to call yourself an amateur for much longer.... :)
John Amidon :-)