JBL MA Series New AV Receivers - MA310, MA510, MA710, MA7100HP, MA9100HP

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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024

Комментарии • 45

  • @wezzman1
    @wezzman1 4 дня назад +1

    The fact that these are digital amplifier is great for ppl like me with limited space.

  • @MohsinWadee
    @MohsinWadee 23 дня назад +3

    I think you've missed an important, techical point as to why these receivers are labelled 'modern' - these are one of the very few AV receivers at any price to use Class D amplification. What's also interesting is that JBL give ratings for all channels driven, not just the usual 2 channels by most other manufacturers. And they also include basic room correction to get the user up and running out of the box.

    • @ripewave
      @ripewave  23 дня назад +1

      Yes - I did miss that the amplifiers within the MA Series AV Receivers are Class D. Thanks for raising. You are correct the not many are. The McIntosh MHT300 is another example of one having Class D.
      Where are you finding and all channels driven specification? Each official resource I have seen from JBL shows only 2-channel amplifier ratings:
      Website, specification sheet, manual:
      FTC Rated Output Power (20Hz- 20kHz, 2 channels driven, 1% THD max, 8Ω)
      140W
      Rated Power @ 8Ω (20Hz - 20kHz, 2 channels driven, 0.5% THD max)
      140 W RMS
      Rated Power @ 4Ω (20Hz - 20kHz, 2 channels driven, 0.5% THD max)
      240 W RMS
      Within those published values, they do include the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) ratings which is the US Government rules designed to provide consumers with a more consistent benchmark on reported power of amplifiers by suppliers. However, FTC does not require an all channels driven test and does not go far enough on normalizing distortion, so it is still possible for brands to publish data using liberal test practices - 2 ch with high distortion. -Jon

    • @roco9504
      @roco9504 17 дней назад +1

      @@ripewaveooooo heck yeah they are class D?! It’s about time we get some AVRS that way. I’m still with my pioneer lx901 & was waiting for a good modern class d to upgrade to. I only need 9 Channels so this is looking good!

    • @ripewave
      @ripewave  14 дней назад +3

      Very odd that more don't. I suspect that there is a lot of engineering behind a good class D amplifier. Many of the big players don't own that technology and find it more profitable to go with the Class AB designs they own. However, why Pioneer had Class D and moved back to Class AB remains a mystery to me.

  • @MrTchou
    @MrTchou 25 дней назад +2

    EZSet EQ was the Harman/Kardon brand AVR calibration, on My AVR 760 there was even an EZSet EQ II version as it was able to calibrate 2 separate subwoofers. It worked quite well there were two sets of measures, « near field » to measure the speakers themselves and « far field » to measure what was the room influence on the sound. It worked quite well tbh.

    • @ripewave
      @ripewave  25 дней назад

      Thanks for the knowledge. So they resurrected that tool from older products. Very helpful. -Jon

    • @mattgiunt
      @mattgiunt 25 дней назад +1

      This is first thing about these receivers that seems positive.We sure need a new built in room correction that might show promise but lack of pre outs is big miss

  • @billyfinn
    @billyfinn 26 дней назад +1

    Thanks for the review.
    Not much information out there on these yet.
    I'm happy you did this.
    I'm now subscribed.

    • @ripewave
      @ripewave  26 дней назад

      Thanks for subscribing. I hope to bring one of these I house soon. -Jon

    • @billyfinn
      @billyfinn 23 дня назад +2

      @@ripewave i have the 310. I went with black at first but then swapped it out for the white. The menu is tough on the 310, but since I only use it for music and I have a network streamer connected, there was no reason to upgrade to the next version.

  • @ebarbie5016
    @ebarbie5016 25 дней назад +5

    The only reason I'd consider a JBL AVR is because of the HARMAN/Lexicon Logic-7 sound mode. But unfortunately, yjey no longer offer such mode in the new line of AVRs. So, I'll stick with Denon...

    • @ripewave
      @ripewave  25 дней назад

      It seems they are not doing much with the Lexicon brand and technology nowadays. -Jon

  • @bearclaw5115
    @bearclaw5115 26 дней назад +2

    Thanks for covering these. Unfortunately I don't see anything to tempt me from the more traditional options.

    • @ripewave
      @ripewave  26 дней назад +1

      I appreciate the honest feedback. My aim is to present products with clear details so each viewer can come to their own conclusions and to minimize after purchase surprises. -Jon

  • @Music.Movies.67
    @Music.Movies.67 26 дней назад +8

    No Preouts is a bad move by JBL on these new AV Receivers
    Good can purchase licence for Dirac Calibration on higher end models

    • @ripewave
      @ripewave  25 дней назад

      Nice fair balanced feedback. -Jon

    • @kellyturley8295
      @kellyturley8295 24 дня назад

      MA710 has preouts when selected in the menu system

    • @shedrickjohnson8473
      @shedrickjohnson8473 14 дней назад +1

      ​@ripewave great break down on these units they look very good. Do you no the voltage on the subwoofer.

    • @ripewave
      @ripewave  14 дней назад

      I do not know the voltage of the subwoofer output. It is not published by JBL. -Jon

    • @shedrickjohnson8473
      @shedrickjohnson8473 14 дней назад

      @ripewave Thanks for your fast response I'm definitely staying tune for the review of this product.

  • @BlessingEagle
    @BlessingEagle 16 дней назад +1

    You didn't mention that these are class D amplifiers. Otherwise, great review.

    • @ripewave
      @ripewave  16 дней назад

      Thanks for filling in that detail. I did miss that one. -Jon

  • @cgm246
    @cgm246 25 дней назад +1

    i like the simplicity of the 9100 and would probably try one
    in a small room setup...

    • @ripewave
      @ripewave  25 дней назад

      I have the feeling that a smaller room is the right setting for these JBL MA Series AV Receivers. -Jon

  • @christiankogler6547
    @christiankogler6547 26 дней назад +1

    I'm curious how JBL utilizes those full-graphic-screens on the HP Models. If they'll show cover-art and a spectrum analyzer during streaming, it'd be big benefit over those dot-matrix screens other companies still use in way more expensive AVRs.

    • @ripewave
      @ripewave  25 дней назад +1

      Great question. I can’t find any evidence so far that the display does more then produce status information about the device. Given its limited support for direct streaming, I suspect that album art will not be included. -Jon

  • @dylanmountain5357
    @dylanmountain5357 24 дня назад +1

    These are at Best Buy, in store

    • @ripewave
      @ripewave  24 дня назад

      Thank you - I just ordered one from them for review. -Jon

    • @OTWRC
      @OTWRC 24 дня назад

      Looking forward to your review of it - what model did you get?? Thanks! ​@@ripewave

    • @ripewave
      @ripewave  14 дней назад +1

      I go the MA9100HP. Will open tomorrow. -Jon

    • @OTWRC
      @OTWRC 14 дней назад

      ​Nice! I got the MA710 just to try something new and had to setup a return for it, as it was not decoding audio properly. 5 channel decoding was correct channel-wise but sounded very veiled/muddy and with every Atmos or DTS:X movie I tried, the center channel dialogue/audio would come out of my rear left surround speaker ..really weird. Almost seemed like a software issue. I triple checked all connections and made sure the unit was updated, tried a factory reset etc. with no luck. I ended up finding a used Sony AN1000 and that worked flawlessly upon hookup. I feel like the Sony sounds better than the Denon x6500h that I had prior ever did. The Sony AN1000 has been a real surprise. I guess I can finally retire my 25 year old Sony STR DA777ES once and for all now! What a great receiver that is/was - that thing just will not die lol. I hope the JBL works out for ya! Looking forward to your review. @@ripewave

  • @BoRerunn
    @BoRerunn 26 дней назад +1

    I returned the 710 , it can't hold the bi amp mode

    • @Music.Movies.67
      @Music.Movies.67 26 дней назад

      Bi amp mode is waste of time anyway

    • @ripewave
      @ripewave  25 дней назад

      Potentially a software issue. Did you return for just that issue, or were there other factors? -Jon

    • @BoRerunn
      @BoRerunn 25 дней назад +1

      @@ripewave they would shut off after glitching out

    • @ripewave
      @ripewave  25 дней назад +1

      Not good

    • @BoRerunn
      @BoRerunn 25 дней назад +1

      @@Music.Movies.67 they look nice but my R11s need Ws

  • @Audiomainia2310
    @Audiomainia2310 25 дней назад +3

    All units are Class D amplification / THD is 0.5% - terrible numbers.
    This is quite frankly terrible - any sensitive speakers will highlight the distortion.
    And no mic included? Use your iPhone? That's a joke. JBL should have stayed away from the AVR game / I mean come on - not even an AM - FM tuner? And made in China for this kind of money?
    This line up will fade away like Harmon Kardon did when they went to Class D amps - somebody at H/K didn't get that memo.

    • @ripewave
      @ripewave  25 дней назад +1

      Class D implication can be good - very good. But not all Class D amps are good. To only measure within 0.5% will inflate the values. The more I hear about these new model, the more I am concerned. Good point about EZ set EQ measurements - reading the JBL provided instructions they say to use the microphone in your mobile device. As you say - not good. -Jon

    • @Audiomainia2310
      @Audiomainia2310 25 дней назад +2

      @@ripewave Only good implementation I've encountered with Class D amps are from NAD - and the amount you pay is insidious in comparison to a Class A/B or even a Class G - which Onkyo has a new stereo amplifier with Class G technology.
      But Jon, Class D amps have been around since the 1960's and more or less abandoned by audiophiles like myself because of the high THD above 200 hz that is quite audible. In my opinion, that's why Class D amps are used primarily in subwoofers and car audio

    • @ripewave
      @ripewave  25 дней назад

      I think that good Class D amplifiers have been more expensive. McIntosh has the MI502 Digital Amplfier and MHT-300 AV Receiver based on Class D. -Jon

  • @MrGrzech7000
    @MrGrzech7000 25 дней назад +4

    I spent a few minutes on it in best buy, it looks cheap, shoddy plastic, I don't like it!

    • @ripewave
      @ripewave  25 дней назад

      That is disappointing.great feedback nevertheless.-Jon