As a Bulls fan, I miss the days when we used to bully Giannis and get him out of character, getting him ejected from the games and shit. Then he went all MVP and shit ain't ever been this same. With Wemby, as long as he stays healthy and out of his own way, there's no reason he couldn't have a similar trajectory as Giannis.
Globalization happened too. The pool of players is so much more competitive now. Just look at what South Sudan did as one tiny example of the global quality.
With the larger pool of players, you get these generational, physical marvels with size who also have offensive skills now (Jokic, Embiid, Giannis, Luka, Wemby, Porzingis, Markannen, Siakam, Horford, Lopez, Middleton, Tatum) that make them super tough to guard. You add physicality to the game, too, and these mfs can eat defensively as well. Their size and length is to their advantage. Outside of Lopez and Horford who are up there in age, there's no reason why any of the others I named shouldn't be *always* in the MVP mix year after year.
The Denver wolves series was one of the best series ive seen in a long time. The regular season has become unwatchable, im all for this change. Please do it. It will show who the real players are and expose the overhyped ones.
We hadn't seen defense like that in a LONG time, and it was brutal, yet so beautiful to watch! The Nuggets *really* struggled to get shots off, and Jokic/Murray just couldn't buy a bucket. They're gonna need to bulk up and bang in the paint if they wanna hit shots. Finesse isn't gonna cut it anymore unless they can hit their 3s.
Would be nice seeing the 3 sec. rule removed, travelling and offensive fouls actually being called. Then it would be interesting seeing the scores and who the actual super stars are.
I think an underrated reason behind the offensive explosion is that players are *way* better at playing 0.5 basketball. Catch and shoot, drive, or pass, which keeps the defense behind the play.
Yeah the players are just more skilled overall. I mean look at the lineups. It's usually 4 guys that can make threes (sometimes Five guy) and then a Rim Runner at the 5. It's essentially the Steve Nash Suns on steroids.
@@tyrismaxey20 years ago there were guards and wings getting heavy rotation minutes who could not finish with both hands.Could not hit a long distance threes(even though most teams were fine with letting them shoot and they had space) could not reliably dribble with their off hand. Bigs who couldn’t defend a guard at all without fouling, who couldn’t shoot or pass. Slow laterally. I don’t think there’s a huge difference between top tier players between eras but the talent now is much more skilled as you go further down the roster Watch a guy like 04 Lucius Harris play vs someone like Bones Hyland today and it’s obvious. Jason Collins vs Nick Claxton etc.
No defense sure helps! Bring back hand checking and let's see how skilled these guys are. And offensive fouls need to be called. Lebalco stiff arming ppl in the face and getting an and 1...wtf
Bill: Yah they changed the rules, we got rid of rim protection and we stopped enforcing basic rules. But I don't know why we have this offensive explosion Everyone: 😐
Marc Gasol & Ibaka was not only able to defend & rebound but they could shoot 3's & play make, especially Gasol. Without Gasol defending Embiid & off course NN coaching Raps wouldn't beat Sixers in the ECSF despite Kawhi's offensive output. But everyone love to.act like it was Kawhi alone who made Raps win in 2019.
The Gasol trade was instrumental. An obvious upgrade to who Valenciunas was then (and arguably now). Also gave the Raps their real smart and physical big who handled not only Embiid but Brooke Lopez. I don't think the Raps get an opportunity to push games against the Sixers/Bucks playoffs without Gasol.
They forget to mention the obvious that offense efficiency is up because no one plays D, no travels are called, constant fouls, and rule changes on top of better shooting.
It was truly amazing how everyone was hurt in the playoff run. it couldn’t be less consequential no Celtics were thought of his champions and we’ll see if they can do it when everyone participates this season.
The reason the NBA has issues with games either being too physical which leads to low scoring and injuries vs too "soft" which leads to high scoring games and crazy stats....is because they don't officiate properly and they allow the offense to walk. Call traveling correctly and you will see the scoring and defense balance out the way it is meant to
Jalen Brunson will not struggle with rule changes. He is a physical player that can score from anywhere. Its the other guys that are going to struggle.
I’m hoping that the reffing changes, post ASG, CONTINUE, not allowing the blatant, ridiculous foul hunting. It’s hurting the USA*Basketball teams, and we WILL lose sometime in the near Olympic future. Hero ball/foul baiting doesn’t work there.
Wish The Ringer gave the WNBA more attention. Their playoffs are on right now and the 4 best players are all in the semi-finals and it's fantastic basketball.
NOT TO MENTION, those previously contested, missed shot attempts now are not even considered a FG attempt, but result in FTs. This SKEWS THE DATA seriously, when NOT CONTROLLED FOR...13:28
I don't think the league is more talented per se, it's just that the officiating has gotten us to a point where good defenders are less valuable. Great defenders are less capable of affecting winning in this era, so when given the choice teams are always picking and playing the scorer with bad defence over the great defender. Compare Buddy Hield and Tony Allen. In previous eras I think Tony Allen affected winning more than Hield, in this era that has flipped. Teams are built around offense because the league has decided that defence doesnt matter
@@jaahnnn idk why people are so delusional about this lol people should go watch an nba finals from the early 2000's; I watched the 2001 nba finals: sixers vs lakers.... I think the warriors dynasty or any other championship winner the past ten years wouldve beat both of those teams by 30 points.
The greats will always be greats but the simple fact is there's guys who are 10th in the rotation in the NBA that have been working with coaches and trainers since they were like 10, that didn't happen back in the day, especially internationally
@@chopin1975-tq3gx both non-KD warriors champions are the weakest champions of 21st century, they really won't win against any other champion since 70s Seattle and that's a maybe. KD made them at least respectable champions
This suggests the numbers are INFLATED due to how the game is called and could easily be reigned in or allowed to expand depending on future trends with the rule book. Clearly has little to do with "everyone can shoot the ball now" or "players are more talented" because Lebron James in 2014-15 was FAR MORE DOMINANT OFFENSIVELY than he is today--this includes his playmaking. Obviously to compare the 16-17 warriors with the 23-24 Lakers is done to DISPLAY this. That Steph, KD team was the best Warriors team, arguably ever--they have a history with Wilt and Rick Barry, of course lol 6:55
@@PodiumTuningRacing I don't see any Celtic winning. First they cancel each other out with voters and that's an actual thing with sports voting. Secondly, the East is very weak this year. It's super top heavy but after team number 6 it's a major fall off with Raptors, Nets, Hawks, Pistons, Wizards, etc. Tatum and Brown will sit a lot of 4th quarters cause of blowouts of the trash teams. Last, Brown will never get an MVP in this league. Not the type of game he has. And Tatum is great but it's just something about him that I think he will keep finishing top 5 and top 10 in voting. He doesn't have the volume of the players we talking about and he not on the ball as much as the Euro players or Ant and Ja.
Wait, yall didn’t think the 2015 Warriors passed the eye test when id say that was the most complete the roster was with the best version of Iguodala they had they while still having skilled size of Bogut/David Lee/Speights everyone down to Brandon Rush could kill ya. Were the Celtics really an all-time great dominant team in NBA history or was last year the most watered down NBA playoffs in a long time. They beat the Pacers in the ECF then faced Dallas who was starting a 19yr old 1-Done Rookie at the 5. This is a really weird white guy glaze a thon
One thing he is wrong about is Boston and Minnesota were already officiated differently. It is just making all things equal for everyone and letting everyone play physical.
😂😂😂😂 😂 Last time I saw OKC they were heading for vacation and the team that put them there got markedly better in the off-season. Just curious what’s gonna put them over the top…. Is it replacing dort with a 10% better Caruso, or is it adding Hartenstein with his eight points and eight rebounds while you send J Williams to the bench. Good luck with that.
The “tricking refs” of flops is more of a strategic loophole. I’m a Spurs fan and foul baiting was something I saw Manu do quite a bit. It’s legal but is it ethical? In the eyes of the viewer it’s akin to a cheap shot.
So relieved they allowed for more defense. The ridiculous high scoring free ball era was painful to watch. Watching uncontested shots go isn't as impressive or exciting.
Brook Lopez is a better example of a big doing a 180 and shooting threes than Al Horford btw idk why Bill is obsessed with erasing the Bucks or their players in any discussion
14:00 the Celtics have a chance to get much better with the more physical ruleset. All of them dawgs, play good to great D, and them big for their positions other than Horford
If you can't allow defense it's obvious offensive efficiency will go up. Why not just ha e 3 poit shooting contest and the team with most wins championship. This is said with blindness to the obvious.
if they analyze this on the DEFENSIVE END they can obviously COUNTER, but apparently no one has done this yet... someone akin NOT to the 2004 Pistons, but the 1989 Pistons, should emerge. I don't mean physically brutalizing opponents, but utilizing counters instead of just attempting to win by blowing everyone out with a barrage of 3s. these things always change, and it won't happen overnight, whatever it is. some team will counter the consensus and toss the imbalance away imo 9:16
The Pistons will be the best of the worst teams mentioned since they DO want to win this year. If any team knows that tanking doesn't guarantee a top 3 pick, it's Detroit. So yeah, don't be surprised if you see them fighting to get in the play in by the end of the season. (This will also be a by product of the other teams going for Flagg.)
yeah... ja morant one of the fastest players ever who has a 40 inch vertical is going to have difficulty getting to the rim because they will allowed to be more "physical."
I think its hilarious to say "Jalen Brunson" of all players will suffer from physicality. As if he didn't dominate the playoff, and as if his offensive team now has KAT/MIkel over Donte/Randle. The offense is not going to be a problem for the Knicks this year. I know you hate the Knicks Billy but relax, you can be afraid of them in Feb when KP is still not playing
That's fucking ridiculous that SGA is THAT high in MVP odds. I understand that he's a cute story for a pathetic losing franchise that FINALLY became relevant after years of sucking, but he's NOT better than Tatum in ANY way. There is not a single thing SGA does better than Tatum on offense, defense, in the playoffs where it counts (Tatum in this post season ALONE played in more playoff games than SGA has played IN HIS ENTIRE 6 year career, and they're ONLY one year apart). SGA was the reason the Thunder lost to the Mavs, while Tatum's versatility and basketball IQ on both ends was THE REASON Boston won the title.
I will.come back to this pod when you all think.some of these so called bad teams in the East can't win games as so called contenders. We saw it last season.
Nah. There is no situation. They will play together on opening night, then Bronny will go to the G-League. I do wonder if the NBA will ask the Lakers to bring him up for Christmas tho. Bronny and LeBron playing together is a bigger story than anything the NFL can do.
Bill & Kirk have great chemistry. Huge win for Ringer
More basketball pods and less NFL gambling pods please.
The NBA season hasn't started yet, thats why. It'll shift to majority basketball content when we get closer to opening day
Bill likes the NFL more now, said it himself.
Let’s be real no one cares about basketball until April (not even the players)
@@tiguhhhh5415We all know that's not true, bill is even lying to himself. The Celtics winning has made him go mad lol
No
Kirk is great, hope to see him more
i have a feeling he's going to Keep On Coming on the podcasts as new talent
Add Zach Lowe and they will dominate the nba coverage at the ringer
This is one of the best in the weeds NBA podcasts I've listened to in a while. Kirk is great! Hope he comes back more!
As a Spurs fan, I really like “Wemby is coming” reminds me of “Winter is coming”
As a Bulls fan, I miss the days when we used to bully Giannis and get him out of character, getting him ejected from the games and shit. Then he went all MVP and shit ain't ever been this same. With Wemby, as long as he stays healthy and out of his own way, there's no reason he couldn't have a similar trajectory as Giannis.
Great Line!!!
Kirk is phenomenal. We need him more.
Ringer network RUclips uploader, timestamps plssss
They want you to watch the whole thing.
Fucking why? What’s wrong with you that you think you deserve to consume everything in exactly the way you want rather than how it’s presented to you
intern reading your comment and thinking "thats more work without more pay"
@@SamNewman1984 Definitely not more pay when its the ringer!
@@je5406 well instead we’ll watch none of it
Howard Beck, now Kirk Goldsberry. Zach Lowe, possibly. The Ringer is grabbing some big fishes, and I'm here for it. Let go podfather!!
Can't wait to see Goldsberry as a regular on Zach Lowe's new Ringer pod! 😉
Loving the Basketball content.
Everybody has a great game plan until Holliday and White are in your face full court.
Globalization happened too. The pool of players is so much more competitive now. Just look at what South Sudan did as one tiny example of the global quality.
With the larger pool of players, you get these generational, physical marvels with size who also have offensive skills now (Jokic, Embiid, Giannis, Luka, Wemby, Porzingis, Markannen, Siakam, Horford, Lopez, Middleton, Tatum) that make them super tough to guard. You add physicality to the game, too, and these mfs can eat defensively as well. Their size and length is to their advantage. Outside of Lopez and Horford who are up there in age, there's no reason why any of the others I named shouldn't be *always* in the MVP mix year after year.
The holy trinity of Kirk, bill, and Zach , let’s make it happen
Fingers crossed for Kirk and Zach Lowe on the Ringer’s Basketball Brain podcast.
When Tim Conley zigged 3years ago when he traded for gobert small ball was the biggest fear but I think he lead the shift back of being big
The Denver wolves series was one of the best series ive seen in a long time. The regular season has become unwatchable, im all for this change. Please do it. It will show who the real players are and expose the overhyped ones.
We hadn't seen defense like that in a LONG time, and it was brutal, yet so beautiful to watch! The Nuggets *really* struggled to get shots off, and Jokic/Murray just couldn't buy a bucket. They're gonna need to bulk up and bang in the paint if they wanna hit shots. Finesse isn't gonna cut it anymore unless they can hit their 3s.
agreed cuz nowadays everybody averages 20ppg and is a star. Its pretty frustating as a fan.
Would be nice seeing the 3 sec. rule removed, travelling and offensive fouls actually being called.
Then it would be interesting seeing the scores and who the actual super stars are.
Randle on the TWolves is the same spacing as Randle on the Knicks. He’s playing with a center who can’t leave the basket. It’ll work out.
That's what I was saying
Doesn't really matter since he's headed to Texas in the 2025 offseason
More cool graphics with Kirk’s stuff. Always cool and helpful! Tweet all of them please.
“Offensive efficiency” more like defense is not allowed to play hard…until some playoff series
I think an underrated reason behind the offensive explosion is that players are *way* better at playing 0.5 basketball. Catch and shoot, drive, or pass, which keeps the defense behind the play.
Traveling, carries. It’s disgusting
Yeah the players are just more skilled overall. I mean look at the lineups. It's usually 4 guys that can make threes (sometimes Five guy) and then a Rim Runner at the 5. It's essentially the Steve Nash Suns on steroids.
@emmanuelmoses7249 how is that inherently more skilled, they've eliminated 70% of the game. It's dumbed down.
@@tyrismaxey20 years ago there were guards and wings getting heavy rotation minutes who could not finish with both hands.Could not hit a long distance threes(even though most teams were fine with letting them shoot and they had space) could not reliably dribble with their off hand. Bigs who couldn’t defend a guard at all without fouling, who couldn’t shoot or pass. Slow laterally.
I don’t think there’s a huge difference between top tier players between eras but the talent now is much more skilled as you go further down the roster
Watch a guy like 04 Lucius Harris play vs someone like Bones Hyland today and it’s obvious. Jason Collins vs Nick Claxton etc.
Big facts @@emmanuelmoses7249
No defense sure helps! Bring back hand checking and let's see how skilled these guys are. And offensive fouls need to be called. Lebalco stiff arming ppl in the face and getting an and 1...wtf
GREAT conversation!
Bill: Yah they changed the rules, we got rid of rim protection and we stopped enforcing basic rules. But I don't know why we have this offensive explosion
Everyone: 😐
yeah the lack of enforcement now is just crazy
so much carrying and traveling is allowed now
Gotta love this show. Shoutout Akif
I like this guy
“Revenge of the girth” is INSANE 😂37:51
Please bring my man Kirk on more.
Marc Gasol & Ibaka was not only able to defend & rebound but they could shoot 3's & play make, especially Gasol. Without Gasol defending Embiid & off course NN coaching Raps wouldn't beat Sixers in the ECSF despite Kawhi's offensive output. But everyone love to.act like it was Kawhi alone who made Raps win in 2019.
The Gasol trade was instrumental. An obvious upgrade to who Valenciunas was then (and arguably now). Also gave the Raps their real smart and physical big who handled not only Embiid but Brooke Lopez. I don't think the Raps get an opportunity to push games against the Sixers/Bucks playoffs without Gasol.
I like Kirk put him in more
This Kirk guy is amazing
It’s because of soft defense, rules favoring offense, and allowing travels/carries
They forget to mention the obvious that offense efficiency is up because no one plays D, no travels are called, constant fouls, and rule changes on top of better shooting.
Wow hot take 😂
Great pod
It was truly amazing how everyone was hurt in the playoff run. it couldn’t be less consequential no Celtics were thought of his champions and we’ll see if they can do it when everyone participates this season.
The reason the NBA has issues with games either being too physical which leads to low scoring and injuries vs too "soft" which leads to high scoring games and crazy stats....is because they don't officiate properly and they allow the offense to walk. Call traveling correctly and you will see the scoring and defense balance out the way it is meant to
Giannis and Bam, and AD would like a word as the “best” defensive player
Jalen Brunson will not struggle with rule changes. He is a physical player that can score from anywhere. Its the other guys that are going to struggle.
Also his teammates will be benefiting from it on the other end. OG, Bridges, Hart, Duece. Knicks D could benefit most.
Game after game it will take its toll on a smaller player like Brunson
He is 5’11. That matters. And I do agree with your point.
Oh I just noticed your name lol. I getcha. God bless
@@MrOctober44 Considering Brunson's weight and build this is more beneficial for him.
jaylen and jayson riding the shirt bus
Ante Zizic is a name I had forgotten about
I’m hoping that the reffing changes, post ASG, CONTINUE, not allowing the blatant, ridiculous foul hunting. It’s hurting the USA*Basketball teams, and we WILL lose sometime in the near Olympic future. Hero ball/foul baiting doesn’t work there.
So celtics didnt have the easiest run to the finals ever?
Every star from every opponent every round was injured. Trash finals run
Wish The Ringer gave the WNBA more attention. Their playoffs are on right now and the 4 best players are all in the semi-finals and it's fantastic basketball.
Joking struggled so much in Fiba he almost led a vastly inferior Serbia team to an upset of the US juggernaut.
Competitive players are gamifying shooting ? That’s awesome. Who wouldn’t use it. You don’t want to be the last on any list, you would think.
More fiba like please. The ball should also be live once it touches the rim and be tipped by defenders
Thought the dude was gonna start sobbing about the American MVP drought
Bill please stop cutting your guests off so much
Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving had to get hurt for the 2015 warriors to pass the "eye test."
Bill bill bill bill bill bill
Old good players are playing much longer- which keeps the top talent level higher.
Wemby will be 3rd Team All-NBA
Overrated. Good at playing for himself. Spurs worse record with him
Spurs didn't want to win. Pop was playing sochan at point guard..
@@thewalruswasjason101
@@thewalruswasjason101the spurs has the worst roster in the league
He’ll be first team trust me. Shai Luka giannas jokic n wemby. By next April he’ll be better than tatum
@@thewalruswasjason101 this is a preposterous take. If you are already on the Wemby hate train it is going to be a long 15 years for you brother
NOT TO MENTION, those previously contested, missed shot attempts now are not even considered a FG attempt, but result in FTs. This SKEWS THE DATA seriously, when NOT CONTROLLED FOR...13:28
Bill did you watch the playoffs? Brunson got calls.
Bill got Jalen Brunson messed up if he thinks that he will struggle with physical play lol. He thrives off it in fact he initiates it lol.
I don't think the league is more talented per se, it's just that the officiating has gotten us to a point where good defenders are less valuable. Great defenders are less capable of affecting winning in this era, so when given the choice teams are always picking and playing the scorer with bad defence over the great defender.
Compare Buddy Hield and Tony Allen. In previous eras I think Tony Allen affected winning more than Hield, in this era that has flipped. Teams are built around offense because the league has decided that defence doesnt matter
Dude guys do the eastbay in a game now. That dunk was a 50 in a dunk contest 20 years ago
Reggie miller was a career 39% 3 pt shooter. Stephen curry is a 43% career 3pt shooter lol players are way better now
@@jaahnnn idk why people are so delusional about this lol people should go watch an nba finals from the early 2000's; I watched the 2001 nba finals: sixers vs lakers.... I think the warriors dynasty or any other championship winner the past ten years wouldve beat both of those teams by 30 points.
The greats will always be greats but the simple fact is there's guys who are 10th in the rotation in the NBA that have been working with coaches and trainers since they were like 10, that didn't happen back in the day, especially internationally
@@chopin1975-tq3gx both non-KD warriors champions are the weakest champions of 21st century, they really won't win against any other champion since 70s Seattle and that's a maybe. KD made them at least respectable champions
Isis Goldsberry really trying to tell us that offense has gotten so much better and it's not *the weak officiating and the abismal defense* ??!! 😂😂😂
nurk started shooting more 3s with the blazers
This suggests the numbers are INFLATED due to how the game is called and could easily be reigned in or allowed to expand depending on future trends with the rule book. Clearly has little to do with "everyone can shoot the ball now" or "players are more talented" because Lebron James in 2014-15 was FAR MORE DOMINANT OFFENSIVELY than he is today--this includes his playmaking. Obviously to compare the 16-17 warriors with the 23-24 Lakers is done to DISPLAY this. That Steph, KD team was the best Warriors team, arguably ever--they have a history with Wilt and Rick Barry, of course lol 6:55
wow, you mean LeBron 10 years younger than he is now was a better player... that blew my mind.
pero antic pull is crazy.. shout out ante zizc tho😂
Bill! First!!!
I think Ja and Ant are only chance for American MVP over next 5 years but it will be difficult
whats american?
Id say Tatum or Brown could get a vote if the Celtics continue dominating. Id also say a healthy Zion could have a chance too.
@@chopin1975-tq3gx anyone born stateside
@@PodiumTuningRacing I don't see any Celtic winning. First they cancel each other out with voters and that's an actual thing with sports voting. Secondly, the East is very weak this year. It's super top heavy but after team number 6 it's a major fall off with Raptors, Nets, Hawks, Pistons, Wizards, etc. Tatum and Brown will sit a lot of 4th quarters cause of blowouts of the trash teams. Last, Brown will never get an MVP in this league. Not the type of game he has. And Tatum is great but it's just something about him that I think he will keep finishing top 5 and top 10 in voting. He doesn't have the volume of the players we talking about and he not on the ball as much as the Euro players or Ant and Ja.
Wait, yall didn’t think the 2015 Warriors passed the eye test when id say that was the most complete the roster was with the best version of Iguodala they had they while still having skilled size of Bogut/David Lee/Speights everyone down to Brandon Rush could kill ya.
Were the Celtics really an all-time great dominant team in NBA history or was last year the most watered down NBA playoffs in a long time. They beat the Pacers in the ECF then faced Dallas who was starting a 19yr old 1-Done Rookie at the 5.
This is a really weird white guy glaze a thon
Kirk ball washing the Celtics for Simmons is annoying
There are so many past champions this decade that I’d take over them lol. They got overwhelmingly lucky with every matchup this year
Worst playoffs I can remember. The East never felt competitive.
100%
@@gators9570 precisely. If there are advanced stats that indicate they are an all time great team, then that stat needs to have its equations checked
bet on wemby to win mvp before the olympics -- not expecting him to win but it was a great value bet now
Mr. Billiam Simmons, I doubt embiid and Jokic were influenced by Curry
“Let’s make everything dumber” society about everything the past 5-10 years.
I just started eating my food let’s go
One thing he is wrong about is Boston and Minnesota were already officiated differently. It is just making all things equal for everyone and letting everyone play physical.
😂😂😂😂 😂 Last time I saw OKC they were heading for vacation and the team that put them there got markedly better in the off-season. Just curious what’s gonna put them over the top…. Is it replacing dort with a 10% better Caruso, or is it adding Hartenstein with his eight points and eight rebounds while you send J Williams to the bench.
Good luck with that.
no defense. that is the reason for this trend 7:00
"you miss every shot you dont take"
The “tricking refs” of flops is more of a strategic loophole. I’m a Spurs fan and foul baiting was something I saw Manu do quite a bit. It’s legal but is it ethical? In the eyes of the viewer it’s akin to a cheap shot.
a rare pero antic mention no way
Why is Kirk not on more often?
So relieved they allowed for more defense. The ridiculous high scoring free ball era was painful to watch. Watching uncontested shots go isn't as impressive or exciting.
Brook Lopez is a better example of a big doing a 180 and shooting threes than Al Horford btw idk why Bill is obsessed with erasing the Bucks or their players in any discussion
14:00 the Celtics have a chance to get much better with the more physical ruleset. All of them dawgs, play good to great D, and them big for their positions other than Horford
Grantland NBA content was the best! More Goldsberry and snatch up Zach Lowe!
If you can't allow defense it's obvious offensive efficiency will go up. Why not just ha e 3 poit shooting contest and the team with most wins championship. This is said with blindness to the obvious.
if they analyze this on the DEFENSIVE END they can obviously COUNTER, but apparently no one has done this yet... someone akin NOT to the 2004 Pistons, but the 1989 Pistons, should emerge. I don't mean physically brutalizing opponents, but utilizing counters instead of just attempting to win by blowing everyone out with a barrage of 3s. these things always change, and it won't happen overnight, whatever it is. some team will counter the consensus and toss the imbalance away imo 9:16
The Pistons will be the best of the worst teams mentioned since they DO want to win this year.
If any team knows that tanking doesn't guarantee a top 3 pick, it's Detroit.
So yeah, don't be surprised if you see them fighting to get in the play in by the end of the season.
(This will also be a by product of the other teams going for Flagg.)
yeah... ja morant one of the fastest players ever who has a 40 inch vertical is going to have difficulty getting to the rim because they will allowed to be more "physical."
Dude!
Bringing physicality back to favor the celtics over the next four years; not shocking
“We don’t need charity” you clearly do
REVENG OF THE GIRTH
Belichick. Gettin his viagara on.
Anyone who actually watches games loves the new officiating. What portion of the fanbase actually watches games now?
The NY media thing couldnt be more of an old gen x take
Much like his existtence...it wasnt an accident?
Ur mom might dusagree?
OKC will not win one NBA final by 2030, I'd bet that versus winning > 2- lol . (3) by 2030 is just silly
I think its hilarious to say "Jalen Brunson" of all players will suffer from physicality. As if he didn't dominate the playoff, and as if his offensive team now has KAT/MIkel over Donte/Randle. The offense is not going to be a problem for the Knicks this year. I know you hate the Knicks Billy but relax, you can be afraid of them in Feb when KP is still not playing
That's fucking ridiculous that SGA is THAT high in MVP odds. I understand that he's a cute story for a pathetic losing franchise that FINALLY became relevant after years of sucking, but he's NOT better than Tatum in ANY way. There is not a single thing SGA does better than Tatum on offense, defense, in the playoffs where it counts (Tatum in this post season ALONE played in more playoff games than SGA has played IN HIS ENTIRE 6 year career, and they're ONLY one year apart). SGA was the reason the Thunder lost to the Mavs, while Tatum's versatility and basketball IQ on both ends was THE REASON Boston won the title.
AD is the best defender in the world. Wemby and Bam are tied second and Rudy never had a case in his carreer
AD is getting cooked everytime by Sabonis and Jokic. Its Wemby, then Bam, then AD. Rudy plays the best team defense which is why he always wins it.
lol, the Celtics playoff run was not impressive even against mediocre teams. They looked beatable. That’s Bill’s point
They went 16-3 with their starting center 😂
I will.come back to this pod when you all think.some of these so called bad teams in the East can't win games as so called contenders. We saw it last season.
The Bronny James fiasco will unravel before November 1st
It was never raveled
Nah. There is no situation. They will play together on opening night, then Bronny will go to the G-League.
I do wonder if the NBA will ask the Lakers to bring him up for Christmas tho. Bronny and LeBron playing together is a bigger story than anything the NFL can do.
I'd suggest the game isn't global; it's American/European. There's no African/South American/Asian presence to speak of. Not world football quite yet.
Sorry Bill.... Brunson thrived in the 2nd half of the year and playoffs