@@Ladioz yeah, his 'woman' is the Chief Financial Officer at LMG and owns 49% of the entire corporation. It is literally her job to manage the company's finances.
My guess is they ripped up Intel's check because they knew they could get more from a different sponsor when they say they are going to be touring Intel's lab.
Once Intels leadership changed I see that they have become much more transparant and allow vlogers in thier facilities. Cool to see Intel moving on the right path.
companies do alot of things to try to reclaim their spot when they get beaten, if amd wouldn't have surpassed intel in some categories, im pretty sure intel wouldn't be what it is today
I’m 21 years old & i review weed products on my RUclips channel as my job lmao. Tryna make it out the hood, these rappers be tryna go back 🧑💻🧑💻🧑🔬🧑🔬
I remember the video where Linus legitimately asked Intel if he could come to their lab (and that he would pay to go), and now that dream is a reality. Great job on the video guys! What an experience to remember!
7:45 "these rigs can do all kinds of things that a customer would never do" - as a test architect I can tell you, test scenarios are akin to safety rules. That is to say they are written in blood. If you see a test scenario and think, "weird, wonder why they test that?" someone somewhere probably has a story to tell about that issue they spent sleepless nights trying to fix which lead up to that scenario being created. Sure occasionally we come up with some kinda contrived scenarios on our own based on what we know are potential weaknesses or areas of concern, but the wild ones usually come from wild events that actually took place.
they might also be verification channels used only during qc. using locked out or non-valid input combos as test parameters. if a given circuit has bad responses or too much draw or whatever, could be a way to bin chips for example
you forgot to mention you're meant to post about it in a forum, then when you fix it after killing yourself you just write "nvm fixed it" with no clue given as to how :-)
I wonder what channels the feedback goes to to reach a test architect? Statistics form retail's support tickets? I imagine the bulk of it come from Partner S.I. and big server customers, but can't be it all, especially if we are talking about testing of consumer platform's features
I took an airplane ride with a chip developer. The kind of guy that develops chips that we won't see 4 to 6 years. This guy's brain was on a level that I've never seen before or since. Thank you Linus Media Group for putting this together for us viewers
I have one of those types that worked for Apple in my family. Such a blast to talk to even though I feel like a complete idiot around him. He is a fantastic guy.
You can do that type of thing work too if that interests you. There’s nothing special about him than you guys, hell you guys can go beyond that if you try. He’s one of us. You guys got this
Is also what I thought when I met such a person….until I decided to take up this field of study and eventually become a FPGA engineer, my brain is now “ahead” of that person who I thought, at one point, was some kind of genie. Point is, almost everyone can do it if you want it badly enough
I watched LTT for 8 years and it made me want to be an engineer. I was super burnt out by the time I was a sophomore but this video reminded me of why I chose this path. Thank you Linus!!
The first couple years are the hardest, because they don't normally give you enough stuff to learn in your chosen field. The last decade or two schools have gotten more in tune with that and try to bring in more courses from your major earlier, rather than leaving them all for second semester sophomore year. Which hopefully helps. When I went through, it was 100% Math+Physics+Chem+humanities for 1.5 years. NOTHING else. Then we got an "Intro to EE" class second semester sophomore. You just kinda have to slug it out, knowing there's more interesting stuff on the other side.
So now we finally know why Intel has had some notorious release and exploit issues in recent years- when your team is cramming more than 24 hours into a day, you’re going to end up with clock timing issues.
The fact that this is, by far, the most interesting LTT video in terms of actual tech journalism, and it's only 10 minutes long is a crime. This needs to be at least 4 times longer and so much more in depth.
Have you seen the one where he tours the Fab? I found that one to be by far the most interesting LTT video in terms of content. This one was very short to be a follow up but I do think there is more content coming around it like he said - this video is just an overview.
@@meangreen99 so you see no difference between the energy of this video compared to the 19,000th laptop review. Why so aggressive in your comment, Wasteman
@@meangreen99 , or he genuinely loves tech. I have been involved in the industry for over 2 decades and still get excited when I see new tech. Just watching the video put a smile on my face. It's would be amazing to get to take this tour and be able to directly speak to these people. It's one thing to understand something it's another to see it first hand.
@@Ashtor1337 you get us truly. I am always excited with the techs and love talking about them. Linus has that enthusiasm as he gets to see more products, he really isn't acting about being excited. It's just very natural to be excited over the cutting edge technology that is still been made. That's why tech reviewers always get consistent views. But what always baffles me is that, Linus is almost 40. He is nearly a boomer while still excited about new technology!
I dont know intel, but microsoft in the 90's basically had rooms and rooms with hundreds of computers (cpu+crt montior +kb) to stress test new windows versions. pretty cool to see
Maybe he works in a plane and it always travels toward west so while he work for 28 hours on flight the actual time on where he is at is still 20 hours
He's working more than 24 hours a day, he's literally bending spacetime to work more hours per day than currently exists, this man's dedication is astounding!
Is not something to be proud of. He's literally giving all the time he has to a company. No family, no relationships, no friends, no a second of free time. How do you see that as something awesome?
@@rafinha7081 Perhaps reread the comment. I think you may have misinterpreted it. Defying physics by working more than 24 hours in a 24 hour day is clearly astounding (because it is not possible). I don’t think they are saying anything about working long hours being awesome.
It's actually insane how much industrial equipment it needed to make something as small as a CPU, makes you appreciate the thought process behind the whole thing.
Well they aren’t making just one, you aren’t gonna make tens of millions in a small factory just like almost every mass produced processed food it takes several buildings of big and expensive equipment
it's because it is so small that you need so much machinery, the first computers took multiple rooms of space and a simple calculator nowadays can outperform them by hundreds of magnitude
Well you just saw 4 labs on 2 floors from one of 10 buildings they have here alone. Plus couple sites all over Israel alone... I guess I'll never get used to excitement in the eyes of new guests. When I saw this my first day I barely held my breath in line! Speaking of how sausages made though... From my point of view as a simple contingent worker in most cases people just do routines, confident and calm. Never saw any "deadline images", everyone knows what to do. But who knows what is real?
@@Jimmy_Jones he said they do not have cash a ton of cash on hand. That's very different than struggling. They have tons of money, it's just tied up in projects that will probably have a massive return in a year or so.
@@CodeMonkeX he reinvests nearly all the money he makes back into LMG, he has the same business mentality as Elon, and that's a good thing, life isn't about the number in your bank account.
dude. this video got me so pumped to see technology being made. I felt disappointed that the video had to end. can't wait to see the next video that you are making!
Does any other "tech review" do things like this? The variety of what's covered, and the people, is why I like LTT so much. Honestly Linus, you and all your companions have created a legacy
@@singlsrvngfrnd i think he means he is wasting a hole video talking about one component like 1 cpu or 1 gpu entering exessive detail on it , not like linus with his random yet entertaining content
@@Galf506 yeah GN knows their stuff, but they're not great at presenting useful information in any sort of a timely fashion, and are constantly extremely negative about everything lol
Having CPUs that can go to sleep while still outputting video could be handy for display walls, digital signage and other applications where the CPU only needs to run to update whatever is being displayed. There is no point in wasting 30W running the whole platform continuously when it only needs to update outputs once every 10+ seconds. They may also be testing panels with self-refresh capability where there is actually no HDMI/DP signal, just the IGP telling the monitor to go into self-refresh mode before going to sleep.
tbf the current draw at idle for the CPU is going to be pretty darn low anyway in that instance. The other thing you'd need to do is have some way to wake it internally. I get what you're saying but something like the NUC11PAQi7 pulls 6w at idle for the whole system, even if you sleep the CPU cores all the way rather than idle you'll still need to keep the memory refresh running, chipset, all of that stuff. Not saying you're wrong there BTW, just saying that particular application doesn't seem like a killer application for that ability.
@@zyeborm Digital signage can have a mix of video, static images, procedural content, etc. that requires more processing power than a 6W NUC can deliver. As for waking up, that is what wake timers are for and Windows will use those to update at whatever ungodly time of the night it deems appropriate to do updates if you don't prevent it from doing so.
If you're talking about intel then this is pretty much the norm on their C states. I have one rig specifically made for displaying a live chart idling around 10W.. AMD meanwhile will idle at over 40w lmao.
@@bingbing3464 With a self-refreshing display, you can idle at sub-1W total system power measured at the AC input since the whole system is in standby, not just the CPU. Only needs enough power for DRAM self-refresh and always-on USB peripherals if any.
@@teardowndan5364 well if you want it as a static image that refreshes then it's totally pointless to use any cpu running on a general purpose OS like windows. There are purpose built hardware for it. What I have here is a rig that is refreshing the screen at 75hz, internet connectivity for collecting data to display with audio notifications for 30w from the plug.
Intel's factory's are so freaking cool. When I was 12 years old, my class went on a trip to Intel's largest manufacturing plant outside the US (since it is only a 10 minute walk away from the school lol) and got given a tour around it and it was so fun and amazing to see the things that happened there
That clip of all the engineers huddled around that screen and cheering that the PC powers on brings a huge smile to my face because I'm a computer engineering student and it's such a beautiful moment when something your team worked so hard on actually works after what feels like an eternity of prototyping and testing. I'm so glad that moments like that aren't lost in such a high level professional setting.
@@Kevin-fl7mj I’m a Xeon PDE at Intel and I can tell you we do celebrate a Power On, And we also get trophies or different commemorative items after we enter production with a new chip family
I work on AMD's equivalent to Product Platform Validation (we call it System Level Testing) for Ryzen desktop. So it's really fascinating to see how team blue does things and to see what's similar and what's different! There is definitely a healthy mix of both.
I had a core 2 duo for years, that machine was absolutely bulletproof and while I saved for an upgrade I put a core2quad in there and it lasted an extra 2 years. God I miss those days, PC gaming was so much cheaper
Have you adjusted for inflation? Computers and components have gotten cheaper in today's dollars until very recently, from what I understand. For example, your Core 2 Duo would cost $230-745 (assuming non extreme) in today's dollars and you can get a much better 12th gen chip for $110-530.
I think the main thing nowadays is people want to upgrade early/overspend beyond their needs. PC hardware is almost back to pre pandemic prices. Not to mention when RDNA2 APU's arrive in the desktop space getting into PC gaming will be stupid cheap.
Hmm, little bit tricky in my opinion. 2 cores lastet a long time because intel said so or because of a weak amd performance over all those years. With every year that passed, the consumer base grew and grew and 2 cores (or later 4) were the norm. Computer gaming will never be as cheap as 10 years ago but it won't be double or triple either. The prices are all over the place right now, but a 6 core cpu on a midtier motherboard and 16GB of fast ddr4 will last you years and years into the future.
10 minutes? I assumed there would be enough content for a couple 30 minute videos. Intel is doing good for themselves by allowing you and others to do vlogs, it's encouraging to see a team of people rather than just lame corporate promo/adverts we're normally left to roll our eyes at. Great job, can't wait to see more.
Linus- "so I ripped up the sponsor cheque" Ltt accounting team- "you did what?!" Linus- "yeah I even said I would pay them instead!" Ltt accounting team-"..."
I work as an engineer for a very small research and development branch of a water testing company. I can’t Imagine being apart of such a high scale operation. The 12 of us at my branch are frantically testing and rolling out firmware updates daily for our product launch. The pressure and pace must be insane at that Intel facility. Thank you for the tour Linus!
I can confirm as someone who works in the labs. It's chaos. People stealing each other mice, laptop chargers, and whole monitors lmao bc there is just so much equipment laying around. There's a ton of time crunches and item tracking going on.
I'm from the old school. My first use of an Intel CPU was the ancient 386. Now, my fastest Intel CPU is the i7-9700. It's been a wild ride from the early days until now.
@@spankbuda5760 old? My first computer was an Apple IIe. no hard drive. no gpu. but upgraded to 128k of memory and dual 5 1/4 floppies. (So i didn't need to use a typewriter for school reports)
pure commitment and literally showing that employees are overworked and crunching, guy literally admits hes staying 24h just to finish his job and people are praising it lol, btw its not okay for people that need to hear this
@@Glade4 they never said the employee was forced to be there for 24 hours. maybe the guy loves the job and the work he is doing. intel probably supported his decision to work over time with a healthy pay package.
This is really cool. I do semi conductor design for cellphones that is really similar. Very cool to see what one of the biggest companies in the Biz is doing.
It's neat. I helped remotely support bringup on the Centriq processors, back when those were briefly a thing. Interesting to see how much of the culture around bringup is pretty similar across the industry.
I think this is the type of content that I expected when I subscribed all those years ago and everything else we have gotten instead has been nothing but icing on the top
Once again Linus you have made the content that I want to see, really pleased for you to have such an opportunity to do something like this. Keep the great content coming. Thanks for running such a great channel.
The oscilloscope @6:39 is worth about $1.3 million. It's a Keysight Infiniium UXR series. 110GHz oscilloscope. Flagship beast. There's only a handful of them in the world.
People like Intel and high end science teams are about the only people that have both the need and the budget for beasts like that. Thing about scopes like that is you actually need highly specialized knowledge to use them and get good measurements. Probes on a scope like that are almost as expensive and magical as the scope itself. Using them correctly is basically a black art. Even the scope itself is usually a bit of an odd beast to use. Linus should ask Keysight if he can get a tour of their facility. One of their reps Daniel Bogdanoff is pretty active in the RUclips community and would probably love to show off their Colorado Springs facility where those things are designed.
It's cool to see the inner workings of a behemoth like Intel. The amount of work that goes into one chip is amazing, and they're nonstop developing and testing. Its crazy that everything just works as expected.
Oof, working in the industry, so much of the quality stuff grinds down to the smallest of details, 'how long did the FOUP of wafers sit at this one particular operation', 'what was the atmospheric/barometric pressure at the time of the power spike', and my personal favorite, 'why did it take 4h to do a 20m job?"
@7:55 some cpus in laptops that still have DVD drives. can boot into DVD player mode where the OS doesnt turn on at all. just plays DVDs for drastic increased battery life. probably for this feature.
7:52 i would assume that you wouldnt wanna have your CPU go wild after leaving it on sleep and burning itself/drawing current without a need for it or other unexpected issues that might happen. Just because something is ment to behave in a specific way doesnt mean it will most times.
6:31 That drop... He/She dropped the CPU. Just seeing the fact that they are used to it so much that they know it wont break if you drop it a little bit is amazing.. I wouldn't ever dare to handle a CPU like that.. Think of a super fragile egg? That is how i handle CPUs..
Really interesting video, makes me think about how AMD and Nvidia do some of the stuff(specifically the power on part) since they go through TSMC and/or Samsung. I hope Linus can do more videos like this because I plan to go into the field of computer hardware engineering and it would be nice to know a little more about the engineering/manufacturing process of computer systems.
Wow that facility looks insanely intricate but amazing. As you would expect for Intel. That must be such a cool place to visit, definitely excited for Raptor Lake and Meteor Lake and whatever else the future has in store
I can see where he's at though, for the baby it's like on his wife and the hospital, not much that he can do, but for that job there is a huge team of people and thousands of combined hours of work, and $millions of R&D.
It's true that R&D is a significant portion of the cost, though it's not the only factor. There's also all that stuff that's behind the scene, fabrication, product margins and yield. Upper-end CPUs cost a lot because of the low yield. Silicon lottery is not a meme. 9% is a BS statistic I made up but its propably around the ballpark of the yield of the most high end CPUs. It's why some cores are disabled on lower end cpus, disabled cores are defective and the dies are discarded as cheaper chipsets. The expensive CPUs are the near defectless silicon.
@@heaththornton3029 , Linus is on the North American continent. The European Legacy obviously is not. (sorry, don't mean to spam; but someone else already asked that.)
I still remember my core 2 duo days, when it’s finally time to upgrade, you know already im getting the core 2 quad q6600! That cpu just rocks especially with the “tape overclock” if you know what i mean
6:29 - I guess throwing the chip into the jig is part of the test? lol (in fairness, it probably is a good real-World test of how some users build their first PC, me included.)
@@Szaboo92 It looks like it's a "bed of nails" type test socket, where the pins come through the underside once the clamp is down. And most (current) Intel desktop CPUs don't have pins, so it probably looks rougher in the video than it is. But still looks like the guy was rolling dice. lol
Actually makes me wonder how many "secret" pins there are on modern CPUs. ie. pins they only use for factory tests. Probably wouldn't unlock anything too interesting, but you never know. Those pins will usually be tied to Ground, VCORE/VCC, or left floating on a consumer motherboard.
@@valentinfarcas9972 OK, fair enough. lol It looks a pain to easily get the chip in there, too. Was my guess right, about it not having actual "pins" in the socket when the clamp is up?
This really deserves a unedited raw version we can watch, just blur what needs to be blured but I could watch this for an hour or more linus, please. ❤️
This is the first time I’ve been genuinely excited about a part two since the early scrap yard wars so thank you for showing this. Ps super excited to see what labs does also I love the direction you guys are heading even if you technically might have to go back on things like not going public or doing preorders and thank you for being an amazing role model I’ve watched since I was like thirteen (six years)
Linus, you've certainly grown incredibly since I started watching you on NCIX. I still remember the firetruck review video vividly :) I'm happy for your success and glad you've reached a height that no other RUclipsr techie has ever reached. Your clout with companies like Intel must be incredible as only you can bash them and praise them in 2 different videos at the same time while still maintaining an awesome relationship with them - it truly shows honesty and neutrality which is why I keep coming back to this channel for more. Thank you for all that you do brother!
Linus have a huge nerd/tech/corporate following. Intel or any company for that matter knows better to step on LTT toes. But also, this a semiconductor firm "Migdal Ha'emek-based firm Tower Semiconductor" that was recently purchased by Intel for $5.4 billion. So this company was already establish. It's not like that Linus was invited to their Portland location.
@@spankbuda5760 it honestly doesn't matter which location Intel invites him to. The fact that they did shows his clout and his importance to their business. I haven't seen them invite anyone else so far to ANY of their facilities, let alone both fab and test areas.
@@AlTheEngineer I'm telling you that this is a now owned Intel already established facility that have been in business already. So what I'm saying is that it was very easy for Intel to give the "green light" to something that was already there in the first place. Intel just slapped their name on it. Intel isn't going to invite him to their main facility to do a tour. But you can be naive/gullible and try to purposely ignore what I'm saying to you so that you can "feel" good about yourself when you go to sleep. Linus is good at marketing. And what comes with marketing? A percentage of deception and manipulation.
@@spankbuda5760 I don't really know what you're talking about at this point sir. None of this makes me "sleep better at night", my point is simple, even if you are saying the facility is not really intel's that's why they let him in there, it is still a special invitation as no one else got it! Anyways It's not a big deal, I don't think Linus is out there manipulating the market and deceiving anyone.
@@AlTheEngineer If you can't comprehend to what I am typing, why are you continuing to interact with me by responding back hours later then? Are you wanting to get the "last say"? Wouldn't the most logical option is to simply ignore me instead of trying to portray me as some ignorant person? You could've easily Google the info of what I've typed out. Look, this is a Intel company as of today. This company wasn't Intel just last year. We do not know if LTT have already arrange a meeting/tour with this company last year. All that I'm pointing out to you is that the perception LTT is giving it's viewers is that Intel invited LTT to tour their Israel facility as if this facility was Intel just built brand new semiconductor operation center. Again, we would've seen the same things in this video last year because this facility was already established without the Intel name. The percentage of deception and manipulation practices kicks in he leaves that portion of what I mentioned above out to the audience because by telling it will lose the type of responses we're seeing in this comment section including yourself. Also, for you to be naive and that gullible to think that the majority of these companies are not practicing manipulation and deception towards the consumers and their investors baffles me. Nvidia was just caught manipulating their financial statements to deceive their investors from what they did years ago and was punished with a 5 million dollar "finger wag" fine. This was another company who were selling their GPU's out of the backdoor in bulk to miners during the mining craze while inflating their GPU prices on the consumer. This is how these companies treat their loyal fans of their product.
We would never see this if it wasn't for the progress amd made imo. Feels like intel is trying everything they can to show they're still in the competition
It’s great to see Linus having fun end enjoying himself, he looks like a 5 year who’s been left alone in a sweet shop. Brilliant video Linus. We next want to see…… An AMD tour 🙏
@@soheibdz8624 those exact areas were "caravans" sites for Bedouins. There were no demolished houses here in Haifa as almost every single one of abandoned buildings belonged to fleed muslim families and therefore wait to be proclaimed by returned ones(in case aforementioned families survived in Jordan and do not mind living under state of Israel, in which hands those houses are currently) All of the houses ruined by Israel on Palestinian territories are the ones destroyed by automatical anti-missile systems for being shelted by QASSAMs from. Any of those who were destroyed by Israeli "alt-right/terroristic" forces like "Lehi" and even some of self-destroyed by HAMAS were rebuilded by Israeli governmental programs.
@@andyshtroymish4997 that's not true, that's what the media says ..the number of Palestinians getting kicked from their houses that owned by at least three generations is huge just check sheikh jarrah , israel doesn't really care if u own the place or not all they good at is using any path even if it's killing innocent people to get to their goal even if it's not legally belongs to them
@@andyshtroymish4997 imagine carrying water for these child killers. Just last week they shot a reporter in cold blood. How fucking deluded do you have to be
I was fortunate enough to teach a networking course on premise at an Intel facility on the west coast (US) 10+ years ago. They took my camera phone to I wouldn't take pictures of any of the manufacturing.
Wow, would be cool to see CPU software, or at least a simulation of it... I get that they obviously shove the electronics in a diagram, but I have always wondered about the software.
The intel coverage by Linus has been fantastic and really interesting to watch, I have an 11700K and its crazy to think it probably was tested and come from this very place or one very similar
@@CroneLife1 So in 25 minutes his was only comment for the audience of the north American continent? Also im unsure if LTT post content time locked to a region 🤔
@@Myks0121 , it may have more to do with time zones and the time difference between zones, not the actual passage of time. People who don't live in North America aren't in the same time zones as those who do. I *could* be wrong about this, but it seems logical.
Intel chips are LGA, they don't have pins on the chips themselves but rather in the mother Board or in this case the testing apparatus. I could see damage being a problem but I presume they've built those test rigs to be much more durable and they can probably swap out the pins themselves rather easily since it's separate from the CPU being tested.
There is a 100% chance that whatever Intel does with their chips however they decide to put them on the board during testing that their machines and techniques are developed to not break the chip.
@@davidmcguire6043 One thing I hadn't thought about on my previous comment is it could be designed so the pins can retract/extend or it could just be industrial strength pins of some sort.
As a silicone test engineer myself (for a much smaller company than Intel) I find this fascinating. I can understand much of what they are doing and have deeper knowledge than what Linus can fit into a ten minute vid, but I'm still blown away by the scale of the testing that has to be done at Intel. It's quite incredible!
Linus: "I would have paid them to take a tour of it"
Intel: "We don't accept LTTstore coupons"
Damn, that's a whole ocean evaporation incident.
Damn. Emotional damage
@@PB24C *throws slipper* EMOTIONAL DAMAGE?!
@@64-bit6 turns out he's visiting intel asia
I would of taken the $ & donated it to a worthy cause.
Intel: Gives Linus money just for visiting.
Linus: Rips up money
Yvonne hundreds of miles away: I sense a disturbance.
This.
@@Ladioz well the are currently cash flow limited so they need money to expand and buy things like the screwdriver and backpack stock
LOL
@@Ladioz yeah, his 'woman' is the Chief Financial Officer at LMG and owns 49% of the entire corporation. It is literally her job to manage the company's finances.
My guess is they ripped up Intel's check because they knew they could get more from a different sponsor when they say they are going to be touring Intel's lab.
Once Intels leadership changed I see that they have become much more transparant and allow vlogers in thier facilities. Cool to see Intel moving on the right path.
preety sure thats only the isreal branch that gave him the clear not sure it has anything to do with the global state of intel
companies do alot of things to try to reclaim their spot when they get beaten, if amd wouldn't have surpassed intel in some categories, im pretty sure intel wouldn't be what it is today
@@johnsalamii The sad truth, we would still be rocking quad-cores if ryzen wasn't a success.
I’m 21 years old & i review weed products on my RUclips channel as my job lmao. Tryna make it out the hood, these rappers be tryna go back 🧑💻🧑💻🧑🔬🧑🔬
Calling LTT "vloggers" is borderline insulting
I remember the video where Linus legitimately asked Intel if he could come to their lab (and that he would pay to go), and now that dream is a reality. Great job on the video guys! What an experience to remember!
Yes indeed
7:45 "these rigs can do all kinds of things that a customer would never do" - as a test architect I can tell you, test scenarios are akin to safety rules. That is to say they are written in blood. If you see a test scenario and think, "weird, wonder why they test that?" someone somewhere probably has a story to tell about that issue they spent sleepless nights trying to fix which lead up to that scenario being created. Sure occasionally we come up with some kinda contrived scenarios on our own based on what we know are potential weaknesses or areas of concern, but the wild ones usually come from wild events that actually took place.
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they might also be verification channels used only during qc. using locked out or non-valid input combos as test parameters. if a given circuit has bad responses or too much draw or whatever, could be a way to bin chips for example
you forgot to mention you're meant to post about it in a forum, then when you fix it after killing yourself you just write "nvm fixed it" with no clue given as to how :-)
I wonder what channels the feedback goes to to reach a test architect? Statistics form retail's support tickets? I imagine the bulk of it come from Partner S.I. and big server customers, but can't be it all, especially if we are talking about testing of consumer platform's features
@@ssl3546 You can't have worked on software or firmware issue etc and not have slammed your desk so hard you cut yourself on something.
Linus: "I ripped up the sponsor's cheque!"
Employees: "Thanks, boss."
They even have to edit the video of him talking about it lol
He wouldn't really rip up a sponsors cheque, this is just an act, hence he calls it 'Check' to avoid legal issues. ;)
@@EmmanuelGoldsteinUK you can't just make legal loopholes up, a cheque is a check, just like a meter is a metre.
@@soljafon Calm down kid, I was joking, hence the ;)
@@soljafon HE ripped the cheque because he took direct bank transfer.. Dont waste paper ;)
I took an airplane ride with a chip developer. The kind of guy that develops chips that we won't see 4 to 6 years. This guy's brain was on a level that I've never seen before or since. Thank you Linus Media Group for putting this together for us viewers
I have one of those types that worked for Apple in my family. Such a blast to talk to even though I feel like a complete idiot around him. He is a fantastic guy.
Chip design is black magic. I am a monkey compared to people that understand that stuff.
You can do that type of thing work too if that interests you. There’s nothing special about him than you guys, hell you guys can go beyond that if you try. He’s one of us. You guys got this
Is also what I thought when I met such a person….until I decided to take up this field of study and eventually become a FPGA engineer, my brain is now “ahead” of that person who I thought, at one point, was some kind of genie. Point is, almost everyone can do it if you want it badly enough
I watched LTT for 8 years and it made me want to be an engineer. I was super burnt out by the time I was a sophomore but this video reminded me of why I chose this path. Thank you Linus!!
The first couple years are the hardest, because they don't normally give you enough stuff to learn in your chosen field. The last decade or two schools have gotten more in tune with that and try to bring in more courses from your major earlier, rather than leaving them all for second semester sophomore year. Which hopefully helps. When I went through, it was 100% Math+Physics+Chem+humanities for 1.5 years. NOTHING else. Then we got an "Intro to EE" class second semester sophomore.
You just kinda have to slug it out, knowing there's more interesting stuff on the other side.
I can only imagine how long it took for the PR team to go over every pixel in every frame of this video to make sure everything was blurred
The other tour had way more blurring haha, this was nothing compared to that.
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@@chanhjohnnguyen1867 them being kinda popular doesn't mean they ain't people too bruh
props to the PR team they deserves more love
So now we finally know why Intel has had some notorious release and exploit issues in recent years- when your team is cramming more than 24 hours into a day, you’re going to end up with clock timing issues.
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The fact that this is, by far, the most interesting LTT video in terms of actual tech journalism, and it's only 10 minutes long is a crime. This needs to be at least 4 times longer and so much more in depth.
Agreed, I wish it was at least 2x longer to be more in-depth.
Have you seen the one where he tours the Fab? I found that one to be by far the most interesting LTT video in terms of content. This one was very short to be a follow up but I do think there is more content coming around it like he said - this video is just an overview.
Agreed!
Video about how much storage each LTT employee has: 20 minutes
Super interesting video touring Intel labs: rushing 10 minutes
WTF
he said there was more coming, this is just the appetizer ;)
i think 15-20 mnt is enough. Too deep will reveal intel internal secret. Also its for general population
linus:"i ripped the intel's check"
also linus: " hi crucial where is my check "
It gives me hope that Linus can still make videos that excite him this far along in his career.
You know actors act right? Linus would probably be a decent actor. He’s a performer.
@@meangreen99 so you see no difference between the energy of this video compared to the 19,000th laptop review. Why so aggressive in your comment, Wasteman
@@meangreen99 , or he genuinely loves tech. I have been involved in the industry for over 2 decades and still get excited when I see new tech. Just watching the video put a smile on my face. It's would be amazing to get to take this tour and be able to directly speak to these people. It's one thing to understand something it's another to see it first hand.
Career? Lol
@@Ashtor1337 you get us truly. I am always excited with the techs and love talking about them. Linus has that enthusiasm as he gets to see more products, he really isn't acting about being excited. It's just very natural to be excited over the cutting edge technology that is still been made.
That's why tech reviewers always get consistent views.
But what always baffles me is that, Linus is almost 40. He is nearly a boomer while still excited about new technology!
This makes me wonder: what did Intel's manufacturing facility look like back on the last 90's-late 2000's.
Did they have 20 Crt's stacked on a wall?
You bet.
Let's see, frequency would range between 60 and 85hz, resolution between 640x480 to 1280x1024, so not that many variants
I dont know intel, but microsoft in the 90's basically had rooms and rooms with hundreds of computers (cpu+crt montior +kb) to stress test new windows versions. pretty cool to see
@@G4rg0yl3z you know crt's managed way better resolutions than that
@Tearjerker probably yes.
Back then it was cutting edge, now it's cutting loaves...
Intel is really ahead of it’s time: their employees manage to work more than 24 hours per day!
He is traced backed to Asia
you do know they probably don't speak English as their first language. Why be mean about it man?
And they run on 45°C body temperature. As we see on their CPUs, more heat is better.
Maybe he works in a plane and it always travels toward west so while he work for 28 hours on flight the actual time on where he is at is still 20 hours
It's the Pentium calculation bug again. He meant more than 2.4 hours a day =)
He's working more than 24 hours a day, he's literally bending spacetime to work more hours per day than currently exists, this man's dedication is astounding!
Is not something to be proud of. He's literally giving all the time he has to a company. No family, no relationships, no friends, no a second of free time. How do you see that as something awesome?
@@rafinha7081 Perhaps reread the comment. I think you may have misinterpreted it.
Defying physics by working more than 24 hours in a 24 hour day is clearly astounding (because it is not possible).
I don’t think they are saying anything about working long hours being awesome.
I wonder if israelis have exagerated about anything else?
after all there are girls that cry rape but later on it turns out they lied.
It's actually insane how much industrial equipment it needed to make something as small as a CPU, makes you appreciate the thought process behind the whole thing.
Well they aren’t making just one, you aren’t gonna make tens of millions in a small factory just like almost every mass produced processed food it takes several buildings of big and expensive equipment
Semiconductors man gotta love them
it's because it is so small that you need so much machinery, the first computers took multiple rooms of space and a simple calculator nowadays can outperform them by hundreds of magnitude
It makes me fear how far back another bronze age collapse scenario would send us.
Well you just saw 4 labs on 2 floors from one of 10 buildings they have here alone. Plus couple sites all over Israel alone...
I guess I'll never get used to excitement in the eyes of new guests. When I saw this my first day I barely held my breath in line! Speaking of how sausages made though... From my point of view as a simple contingent worker in most cases people just do routines, confident and calm. Never saw any "deadline images", everyone knows what to do. But who knows what is real?
Linus: starting to struggle with money to do with backpacks, screwdrivers and lab 2.
Also Linus: I ripped up a check from Intel.
@@nedflanders4158 I know. But that's what he makes it out to be on WAN.
@@Jimmy_Jones he said they do not have cash a ton of cash on hand. That's very different than struggling. They have tons of money, it's just tied up in projects that will probably have a massive return in a year or so.
I doubt he actually ripped up a check / denied the money, that’s probably just for entertainment
@@CodeMonkeX he reinvests nearly all the money he makes back into LMG, he has the same business mentality as Elon, and that's a good thing, life isn't about the number in your bank account.
@@Jimmy_Jones not having money and being tight on cashflow are two very different things.
dude. this video got me so pumped to see technology being made. I felt disappointed that the video had to end. can't wait to see the next video that you are making!
That man at 3:20 can sleep on the couch tonight😂
What Linus said: "I ripped up my sponsor's check"
What Linus thought: "Direct deposit is much more convenient"
linus tears up the cheque - “ you are going to have to pay a lot more money for this”
next video
Intel drove Linus into bankruptcy, Linus did not have enough money to pay for a visit to the Intel Center
Seriously who still uses checks!
He did rip up the check, after cashing it on his mobile banking app.
@@El-Burrito The same country that still uses Imperial measurement!
Does any other "tech review" do things like this? The variety of what's covered, and the people, is why I like LTT so much. Honestly Linus, you and all your companions have created a legacy
Gamers Nexus has done some cool factory tours in the past.
@@Galf506 what area are you referring to?
@@singlsrvngfrnd i think he means he is wasting a hole video talking about one component like 1 cpu or 1 gpu entering exessive detail on it , not like linus with his random yet entertaining content
I think Dogfart did it once, check them out.
@@Galf506 yeah GN knows their stuff, but they're not great at presenting useful information in any sort of a timely fashion, and are constantly extremely negative about everything lol
Having CPUs that can go to sleep while still outputting video could be handy for display walls, digital signage and other applications where the CPU only needs to run to update whatever is being displayed. There is no point in wasting 30W running the whole platform continuously when it only needs to update outputs once every 10+ seconds. They may also be testing panels with self-refresh capability where there is actually no HDMI/DP signal, just the IGP telling the monitor to go into self-refresh mode before going to sleep.
tbf the current draw at idle for the CPU is going to be pretty darn low anyway in that instance. The other thing you'd need to do is have some way to wake it internally.
I get what you're saying but something like the NUC11PAQi7 pulls 6w at idle for the whole system, even if you sleep the CPU cores all the way rather than idle you'll still need to keep the memory refresh running, chipset, all of that stuff.
Not saying you're wrong there BTW, just saying that particular application doesn't seem like a killer application for that ability.
@@zyeborm Digital signage can have a mix of video, static images, procedural content, etc. that requires more processing power than a 6W NUC can deliver. As for waking up, that is what wake timers are for and Windows will use those to update at whatever ungodly time of the night it deems appropriate to do updates if you don't prevent it from doing so.
If you're talking about intel then this is pretty much the norm on their C states. I have one rig specifically made for displaying a live chart idling around 10W.. AMD meanwhile will idle at over 40w lmao.
@@bingbing3464 With a self-refreshing display, you can idle at sub-1W total system power measured at the AC input since the whole system is in standby, not just the CPU. Only needs enough power for DRAM self-refresh and always-on USB peripherals if any.
@@teardowndan5364 well if you want it as a static image that refreshes then it's totally pointless to use any cpu running on a general purpose OS like windows. There are purpose built hardware for it.
What I have here is a rig that is refreshing the screen at 75hz, internet connectivity for collecting data to display with audio notifications for 30w from the plug.
Intel's factory's are so freaking cool. When I was 12 years old, my class went on a trip to Intel's largest manufacturing plant outside the US (since it is only a 10 minute walk away from the school lol) and got given a tour around it and it was so fun and amazing to see the things that happened there
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Linus: "I would have paid for the tour"
Intel: "We'll settle for some of them sweet desk pads"
Give it a rest. Not everything has to be in meme format.
@@davescomputercorner6015 give me 9 good reasons and then ill reconsider my point of view
@@simoncox9349 Me: It's not about point of view
Also me: this format of commenting is cringe.
@@davescomputercorner6015 I accept my flaws for what they are and will reconsider your request
Is he paid in shekles or dolla🇮🇱🇮🇱
That clip of all the engineers huddled around that screen and cheering that the PC powers on brings a huge smile to my face because I'm a computer engineering student and it's such a beautiful moment when something your team worked so hard on actually works after what feels like an eternity of prototyping and testing. I'm so glad that moments like that aren't lost in such a high level professional setting.
This is PR dont get your hopes up to see this besides on RUclips.
@@Kevin-fl7mj I mean, I've seen and been apart of it when we get a satellite into orbit; pretty much every step of the way....
Reminds me of SpaceX back before COVID, when the employees gathered to watch the launches.
@@Kevin-fl7mj I’m a Xeon PDE at Intel and I can tell you we do celebrate a Power On, And we also get trophies or different commemorative items after we enter production with a new chip family
@@Kevin-fl7mj bet you're fun at parties..
Linus: "I tore up my sponsorship cheque"
Also Linus: "Let me tell you about today's sponsor!"
I work on AMD's equivalent to Product Platform Validation (we call it System Level Testing) for Ryzen desktop. So it's really fascinating to see how team blue does things and to see what's similar and what's different! There is definitely a healthy mix of both.
7:22 for when Linus discusses PPV.
I had a core 2 duo for years, that machine was absolutely bulletproof and while I saved for an upgrade I put a core2quad in there and it lasted an extra 2 years. God I miss those days, PC gaming was so much cheaper
Have you adjusted for inflation? Computers and components have gotten cheaper in today's dollars until very recently, from what I understand. For example, your Core 2 Duo would cost $230-745 (assuming non extreme) in today's dollars and you can get a much better 12th gen chip for $110-530.
I think the main thing nowadays is people want to upgrade early/overspend beyond their needs. PC hardware is almost back to pre pandemic prices. Not to mention when RDNA2 APU's arrive in the desktop space getting into PC gaming will be stupid cheap.
I do too my core 2 duo was awesome, then the Intel i7’s came out and I couldn’t afford anything
it's still cheap, just play older games or turn down the graphics
Hmm, little bit tricky in my opinion. 2 cores lastet a long time because intel said so or because of a weak amd performance over all those years. With every year that passed, the consumer base grew and grew and 2 cores (or later 4) were the norm. Computer gaming will never be as cheap as 10 years ago but it won't be double or triple either. The prices are all over the place right now, but a 6 core cpu on a midtier motherboard and 16GB of fast ddr4 will last you years and years into the future.
10 minutes? I assumed there would be enough content for a couple 30 minute videos. Intel is doing good for themselves by allowing you and others to do vlogs, it's encouraging to see a team of people rather than just lame corporate promo/adverts we're normally left to roll our eyes at. Great job, can't wait to see more.
A lot of their current stuff is being done in Oregon, fundamentally there aren't too many steps in the process to talk about
He did say there's a deep dive video in the works.
Linus- "so I ripped up the sponsor cheque"
Ltt accounting team- "you did what?!"
Linus- "yeah I even said I would pay them instead!"
Ltt accounting team-"..."
Crucial: "wtf"
crucial and nzxt: I've got your back
He ripped it up after he desposted it of course, so he's not lying, but lying at the same time.
3:09: "I worked more than 24 hours a day..."
That was calculated on the new 12th Gen processor....
I work as an engineer for a very small research and development branch of a water testing company. I can’t Imagine being apart of such a high scale operation. The 12 of us at my branch are frantically testing and rolling out firmware updates daily for our product launch. The pressure and pace must be insane at that Intel facility. Thank you for the tour Linus!
I can confirm as someone who works in the labs. It's chaos. People stealing each other mice, laptop chargers, and whole monitors lmao bc there is just so much equipment laying around.
There's a ton of time crunches and item tracking going on.
I'm from the old school. My first use of an Intel CPU was the ancient 386. Now, my fastest Intel CPU is the i7-9700. It's been a wild ride from the early days until now.
DX or SX?
@@donc-m4900 I believe it was the 80386SX CPU.
My first PC build was a Intel Pentium II Slot 1 Processor and now I have the i9 12900K. Damn I'm old!
@@spankbuda5760 old? My first computer was an Apple IIe. no hard drive. no gpu. but upgraded to 128k of memory and dual 5 1/4 floppies. (So i didn't need to use a typewriter for school reports)
"I ripped up my sponsor's check." Because Crucial wrote a bigger one...
3:18 Well someone's sleeping on the couch, lol
The mic audio was sooo loud lol
this is pure commitment and deserve my unconditional respect. just don’t apologize to Tim Sweeney again.
pure commitment and literally showing that employees are overworked and crunching, guy literally admits hes staying 24h just to finish his job and people are praising it lol, btw its not okay for people that need to hear this
@@Glade4 I was referring to Linus.
@@Glade4 “we’re just like family” companies are bullshit, maybe a toxic abusive family
@@Glade4 they never said the employee was forced to be there for 24 hours. maybe the guy loves the job and the work he is doing. intel probably supported his decision to work over time with a healthy pay package.
@Christopher he wears glasses
That Vader sticker on the VDR machine, glad to know the engineering team at Intel has a great sense of humour. 8:03
These facility tours you've been doing for years are seriously lit fam. I love em!
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This is really cool. I do semi conductor design for cellphones that is really similar. Very cool to see what one of the biggest companies in the Biz is doing.
It's neat. I helped remotely support bringup on the Centriq processors, back when those were briefly a thing.
Interesting to see how much of the culture around bringup is pretty similar across the industry.
I think this is the type of content that I expected when I subscribed all those years ago and everything else we have gotten instead has been nothing but icing on the top
Do they have a robot that simulates a RUclips tech reviewer dropping the CPU while trying to install it?
No, that's why they invited Linus for this task.
Once again Linus you have made the content that I want to see, really pleased for you to have such an opportunity to do something like this. Keep the great content coming. Thanks for running such a great channel.
The oscilloscope @6:39 is worth about $1.3 million.
It's a Keysight Infiniium UXR series. 110GHz oscilloscope. Flagship beast.
There's only a handful of them in the world.
People like Intel and high end science teams are about the only people that have both the need and the budget for beasts like that. Thing about scopes like that is you actually need highly specialized knowledge to use them and get good measurements. Probes on a scope like that are almost as expensive and magical as the scope itself. Using them correctly is basically a black art. Even the scope itself is usually a bit of an odd beast to use. Linus should ask Keysight if he can get a tour of their facility. One of their reps Daniel Bogdanoff is pretty active in the RUclips community and would probably love to show off their Colorado Springs facility where those things are designed.
Oh boy I need one of those 🤩 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
I’m an intel employee and I learn more from Linus these days than any internal forums
I think that that is saying something about Intels internal forms... lol
Working in the call center doesn't put you in the tech side of the company.
@@escapedcops08 intel doesn't have call centers, intel is massive ans has a lot of employees.
I feel you my friend ;)
Mfg/process, IE, integration, HR, maint, or finance?
Linus looks like a kid who flew to the other side of the hemisphere to one of the biggest candy stores. I love it
Wow, how amazing to see this. Thank you sir.
I am excited for your next video about this lab.
It's cool to see the inner workings of a behemoth like Intel. The amount of work that goes into one chip is amazing, and they're nonstop developing and testing. Its crazy that everything just works as expected.
3:08 Now THATS WHAT I CALL PASSION 😂
If you have the RUclips comment search extension and search "AMD" on this video you will seriously cringe reading the comments... lol
These series at Intel Fab is awesome.. hope we get so much more content from these fab visits! Thx Intel and Linus!
The best thing of the lab tour was the Keysight scope, costs about as much as your house
0:27 so glad to know this blonde person in yellow on the right created someone's CPU. I will gladly check her CPU's in the future !
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damn
As a Quality Specialist this is super exciting, I really wish we could see more of the Quality process
Oof, working in the industry, so much of the quality stuff grinds down to the smallest of details, 'how long did the FOUP of wafers sit at this one particular operation', 'what was the atmospheric/barometric pressure at the time of the power spike', and my personal favorite, 'why did it take 4h to do a 20m job?"
@7:55 some cpus in laptops that still have DVD drives. can boot into DVD player mode where the OS doesnt turn on at all. just plays DVDs for drastic increased battery life. probably for this feature.
7:52 i would assume that you wouldnt wanna have your CPU go wild after leaving it on sleep and burning itself/drawing current without a need for it or other unexpected issues that might happen. Just because something is ment to behave in a specific way doesnt mean it will most times.
Linus: "I ripped up my sponsor's check"
Linus: Now for a word from a completely unrelated sponsor!
6:31
That drop... He/She dropped the CPU. Just seeing the fact that they are used to it so much that they know it wont break if you drop it a little bit is amazing.. I wouldn't ever dare to handle a CPU like that.. Think of a super fragile egg? That is how i handle CPUs..
8:06 Vader approves processor output
7:52 Linus you’re testing Vader’s patience
I am honestly suprised that the first real boot was on windows.
Would have expected it to be a custom modified linux distro
Tells you all you need to know about people who use Linux if even the intel factory doesn’t drive it
@@conormurphy4328 no?
@@conormurphy4328 Intel has their own high-end Linux build (Clear Linux), these factory programs are decades old and are used for familiarity alone.
This place is literaly 15 minutes from my home. And linus is there
Really interesting video, makes me think about how AMD and Nvidia do some of the stuff(specifically the power on part) since they go through TSMC and/or Samsung. I hope Linus can do more videos like this because I plan to go into the field of computer hardware engineering and it would be nice to know a little more about the engineering/manufacturing process of computer systems.
At least three videos plus a visit to Israel that's not too shabby.
Wow that facility looks insanely intricate but amazing. As you would expect for Intel.
That must be such a cool place to visit, definitely excited for Raptor Lake and Meteor Lake and whatever else the future has in store
Intel is really making some good moves letting you tour this facility and the chip fab just a bit ago, respect.
That first engineer is brave making an admission like that.
Some people are just built different and live for their work, especially when they’re pushing the limits of technology.
Let's hope his wife doesn't see this video.
Or his kid for that matter
I can see where he's at though, for the baby it's like on his wife and the hospital, not much that he can do, but for that job there is a huge team of people and thousands of combined hours of work, and $millions of R&D.
@@rootbeerdan we call those “terrible husbands and fathers”
Linus 2015: "we don't take sponsorship dollars"
Linus 2022: "I rIpPEd mY SpoNSorShiP ChEk"
Remember, that $450 CPU costs that much because of all this stuff that goes on behind the scenes.
Thanks, Captain Obvious!
It's true that R&D is a significant portion of the cost, though it's not the only factor. There's also all that stuff that's behind the scene, fabrication, product margins and yield. Upper-end CPUs cost a lot because of the low yield. Silicon lottery is not a meme. 9% is a BS statistic I made up but its propably around the ballpark of the yield of the most high end CPUs. It's why some cores are disabled on lower end cpus, disabled cores are defective and the dies are discarded as cheaper chipsets. The expensive CPUs are the near defectless silicon.
@@wiltsuFIN They also have to account for the people buying ryzens instead.
Linus favourite cpu is Core 2 Duo and I'm still using it for decade.
no
Video just came out and your comment is 20 minutes old 🤔
@@heaththornton3029 yeah man super strange 🤔🧐🤨😱😱🤢🤮🖕😹😹😯😮💀☠️
@@heaththornton3029 i find that weird too
@@heaththornton3029 , Linus is on the North American continent. The European Legacy obviously is not. (sorry, don't mean to spam; but someone else already asked that.)
Tours like this make you understand why CPU's cost what they do and it is amazing how much is going on behind the scenes!
Incredible tour, thank you for that video!!!!
From my POV you can do at least 5 additional episodes, just about how all this works 😍😍😍
I love Linus' passion. I really think it's his source of success!
Should've asked them where Intel Arc GPUs are
In china supposedly
Those are the CPU divisions
Make a full Israel high tech tour! The country is full of it!
Linus, having the on-chip video output while having the CPU asleep validates that the onboard video works.
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"Today I showed Intel that I already let them influence me for FREE!"
I still remember my core 2 duo days, when it’s finally time to upgrade, you know already im getting the core 2 quad q6600! That cpu just rocks especially with the “tape overclock” if you know what i mean
I know, I know 😍
6:29 - I guess throwing the chip into the jig is part of the test? lol
(in fairness, it probably is a good real-World test of how some users build their first PC, me included.)
Yeah I also noticed that. Wtf? :D
@@Szaboo92 It looks like it's a "bed of nails" type test socket, where the pins come through the underside once the clamp is down.
And most (current) Intel desktop CPUs don't have pins, so it probably looks rougher in the video than it is.
But still looks like the guy was rolling dice. lol
Actually makes me wonder how many "secret" pins there are on modern CPUs.
ie. pins they only use for factory tests.
Probably wouldn't unlock anything too interesting, but you never know.
Those pins will usually be tied to Ground, VCORE/VCC, or left floating on a consumer motherboard.
That’s me - Trust me, that’s the actual engineering way of placing a CPU in the socket 😁
@@valentinfarcas9972 OK, fair enough. lol
It looks a pain to easily get the chip in there, too.
Was my guess right, about it not having actual "pins" in the socket when the clamp is up?
This really deserves a unedited raw version we can watch, just blur what needs to be blured but I could watch this for an hour or more linus, please. ❤️
OK, so the next Intel CPUs will arrive late cause Linus for sure dropped the important samples
This is the first time I’ve been genuinely excited about a part two since the early scrap yard wars so thank you for showing this. Ps super excited to see what labs does also I love the direction you guys are heading even if you technically might have to go back on things like not going public or doing preorders and thank you for being an amazing role model I’ve watched since I was like thirteen (six years)
Linus, you've certainly grown incredibly since I started watching you on NCIX. I still remember the firetruck review video vividly :) I'm happy for your success and glad you've reached a height that no other RUclipsr techie has ever reached. Your clout with companies like Intel must be incredible as only you can bash them and praise them in 2 different videos at the same time while still maintaining an awesome relationship with them - it truly shows honesty and neutrality which is why I keep coming back to this channel for more. Thank you for all that you do brother!
Linus have a huge nerd/tech/corporate following. Intel or any company for that matter knows better to step on LTT toes. But also, this a semiconductor firm "Migdal Ha'emek-based firm Tower Semiconductor" that was recently purchased by Intel for $5.4 billion. So this company was already establish. It's not like that Linus was invited to their Portland location.
@@spankbuda5760 it honestly doesn't matter which location Intel invites him to. The fact that they did shows his clout and his importance to their business. I haven't seen them invite anyone else so far to ANY of their facilities, let alone both fab and test areas.
@@AlTheEngineer I'm telling you that this is a now owned Intel already established facility that have been in business already. So what I'm saying is that it was very easy for Intel to give the "green light" to something that was already there in the first place. Intel just slapped their name on it. Intel isn't going to invite him to their main facility to do a tour. But you can be naive/gullible and try to purposely ignore what I'm saying to you so that you can "feel" good about yourself when you go to sleep. Linus is good at marketing. And what comes with marketing? A percentage of deception and manipulation.
@@spankbuda5760 I don't really know what you're talking about at this point sir. None of this makes me "sleep better at night", my point is simple, even if you are saying the facility is not really intel's that's why they let him in there, it is still a special invitation as no one else got it! Anyways It's not a big deal, I don't think Linus is out there manipulating the market and deceiving anyone.
@@AlTheEngineer If you can't comprehend to what I am typing, why are you continuing to interact with me by responding back hours later then? Are you wanting to get the "last say"? Wouldn't the most logical option is to simply ignore me instead of trying to portray me as some ignorant person? You could've easily Google the info of what I've typed out.
Look, this is a Intel company as of today. This company wasn't Intel just last year. We do not know if LTT have already arrange a meeting/tour with this company last year. All that I'm pointing out to you is that the perception LTT is giving it's viewers is that Intel invited LTT to tour their Israel facility as if this facility was Intel just built brand new semiconductor operation center. Again, we would've seen the same things in this video last year because this facility was already established without the Intel name. The percentage of deception and manipulation practices kicks in he leaves that portion of what I mentioned above out to the audience because by telling it will lose the type of responses we're seeing in this comment section including yourself.
Also, for you to be naive and that gullible to think that the majority of these companies are not practicing manipulation and deception towards the consumers and their investors baffles me. Nvidia was just caught manipulating their financial statements to deceive their investors from what they did years ago and was punished with a 5 million dollar "finger wag" fine. This was another company who were selling their GPU's out of the backdoor in bulk to miners during the mining craze while inflating their GPU prices on the consumer. This is how these companies treat their loyal fans of their product.
It's awesome seeing you get excited and let your geek get its freak on. I look forward to the other video!!! thanks for showing us btw!!
We would never see this if it wasn't for the progress amd made imo. Feels like intel is trying everything they can to show they're still in the competition
Imagine owning a company called HP, then see Intel use their Mice in testing.. OEM partners
It’s great to see Linus having fun end enjoying himself, he looks like a 5 year who’s been left alone in a sweet shop.
Brilliant video Linus. We next want to see…… An AMD tour 🙏
Well, you could actually visit them back then when they weren't "on top".
I mean, such tours are primarly a PR stunt.
3:07 "i work more than 24 hours in a day" sounds right to me
I wonder how many souls had to die and how many houses they had to demolish so they can build that factory, interesting...
What houses are you talking about?
@@andyshtroymish4997 check israel maps between 1946 and now and ask yourself how they could expand that fast
@@soheibdz8624 those exact areas were "caravans" sites for Bedouins. There were no demolished houses here in Haifa as almost every single one of abandoned buildings belonged to fleed muslim families and therefore wait to be proclaimed by returned ones(in case aforementioned families survived in Jordan and do not mind living under state of Israel, in which hands those houses are currently)
All of the houses ruined by Israel on Palestinian territories are the ones destroyed by automatical anti-missile systems for being shelted by QASSAMs from. Any of those who were destroyed by Israeli "alt-right/terroristic" forces like "Lehi" and even some of self-destroyed by HAMAS were rebuilded by Israeli governmental programs.
@@andyshtroymish4997 that's not true, that's what the media says ..the number of Palestinians getting kicked from their houses that owned by at least three generations is huge just check sheikh jarrah , israel doesn't really care if u own the place or not all they good at is using any path even if it's killing innocent people to get to their goal even if it's not legally belongs to them
@@andyshtroymish4997 imagine carrying water for these child killers. Just last week they shot a reporter in cold blood. How fucking deluded do you have to be
"I ripped up my sponsor's check!... So here's our sponsor, Crucial."
I was fortunate enough to teach a networking course on premise at an Intel facility on the west coast (US) 10+ years ago. They took my camera phone to I wouldn't take pictures of any of the manufacturing.
8:07 Logitech K400: "In a Galaxy Far far away, my brother is on a sofa controlling Kodi"
Wow, would be cool to see CPU software, or at least a simulation of it... I get that they obviously shove the electronics in a diagram, but I have always wondered about the software.
Ripping 1 sponsor check and still being sponsored 💪🏾🤣
Weeb check✅
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We call this a “shill” in the industry.
The intel coverage by Linus has been fantastic and really interesting to watch, I have an 11700K and its crazy to think it probably was tested and come from this very place or one very similar
It's like Linus is gathering ideas for his new LTT Lab 1 and Lab 2
How did you comment before the video was live?😂
@@Myks0121 ikr?! he's literally 25 minutes early
@@Myks0121 , Linus is on the North American continent. The European Legacy obviously is not.
@@CroneLife1 So in 25 minutes his was only comment for the audience of the north American continent? Also im unsure if LTT post content time locked to a region 🤔
@@Myks0121 , it may have more to do with time zones and the time difference between zones, not the actual passage of time. People who don't live in North America aren't in the same time zones as those who do. I *could* be wrong about this, but it seems logical.
6:31 Can dropping the CPU in place like that where the underside parts smash against metal potentially damage the chip?
Intel chips are LGA, they don't have pins on the chips themselves but rather in the mother Board or in this case the testing apparatus. I could see damage being a problem but I presume they've built those test rigs to be much more durable and they can probably swap out the pins themselves rather easily since it's separate from the CPU being tested.
There is a 100% chance that whatever Intel does with their chips however they decide to put them on the board during testing that their machines and techniques are developed to not break the chip.
@@davidmcguire6043 One thing I hadn't thought about on my previous comment is it could be designed so the pins can retract/extend or it could just be industrial strength pins of some sort.
As a silicone test engineer myself (for a much smaller company than Intel) I find this fascinating. I can understand much of what they are doing and have deeper knowledge than what Linus can fit into a ten minute vid, but I'm still blown away by the scale of the testing that has to be done at Intel. It's quite incredible!
you test phone cases?
I'd laugh if AMD was a sponsor of this video.
With Intel coming to Columbus, OH I wonder if they would let Linus see what it takes to build a chip factory/facilities from the ground up.
Hey Linus, next time, instead of ripping the check, give it to a charity.
It'll make you and Intel look good