"if you want a chaotic and more destructive experience" exactly what jjs is, pure chaos, even if u meet random mfs and team with them for no reason, its still chaotic
@@zmythhh I don't think jjs needs it, it just gives the game more replayability and stuff like that, It'd be pretty boring if you had to look for someone to fight instead of just jumping in, they have the whole side dash thing that lets you break out of team combos for a reason. I play jjs more even tho I got Halloween (I'm praying for an ult🙏) although that is probably because my friends play it too much
@@zmythhh Team Fortress has already been finished, and Jjs is still going through A LOT of things yet. It doesn't make much sense to compare the two, since the only thing similar between them is chaos, and nothing else. I understand what you mean about, but could you explain the unbalanced part to me?
5:59 Buddy, the whole point of this ultimate is the fact that it's luck based, that's pretty much lore accurate, and Tze made an amzing job adapting Hakari's domain to the game.
@@meowarijaThat quite literally the only thing that needs to be debuffed. Hes a one man army and has done an amazing job so far keeping up with the games updates.
@@meowarijaIn the game it is a fire arrow that goes in a straight line. Obviously it wouldn't be like the anime/manga. In addition to the speed, which is not very fast and could easily be dodged, like a certain boy with gay hair could do in the game
For example,Domains,It’s easy to break and easy to interrupt. At the same time Gojo and Gahito domains are an easy win with just the tap of a few buttons.
This would be a valid point if jjs didn’t have multiple features/quirks that helped teamers for example if you used a grab move like cursed strikes for vessel and they get hit with an aoe move like divine dog or reversal red only the user gets hit not the person who’s getting attacked which helps teamers since if you get one teamer into a combo they can just brain dead hit u with an aoe move and only u take damage
@@eevee_7175 jjs is supposed to be a true chaotic experience so what that means is that sometimes you get jumped or you jump someone with your friends. So an anti-team would be horrible for it.
Love your vids, but I can't stand seeing my precious jjk game getting criticized like this, so DEBUNKING TIME!!! 1- Balance. (Since he only tackled the ultimates' balance, I will only talk about it.) The core/point of an ultimate is to be op. "Balance" is thrown out the window when talking about a mode that is specifically made to be OP and a game changer when fighting. Ultimates are supposed to come out ontop when against non-utltimates, no MATTER WHAT. Bonus counter point: almost every Ultimate move is interruptable, even domain expansions. the only exception to this is hollow purple, which is impossible to land at a long distance anyway. 2- Runners. Unless you're a homuncoulos sitting in your room, playing roblox non-stop with thousands of kills; You're not gonna approach them that much. Even if you do, (Unless you're yuji) All characters have a built-in move designed to counter (or at least try to) runners. Whether if it's Gojo's blue/R, hakari's/Mahito's balls, or literally megumi's entire moveset, you can always deal with runner to SOME kind of degree. 2- Teaming. Even though I DO agree teaming is a serious issue in this game, still like runners (although a bit more common), you're still not gonna encounter gang-bangers all that much. even if you do, you got things like Blue, cursed strikes, hakari's R, megumis entire moveset (again) to at least HELP you to some degree. Speaking from experience, Winning a 2v1 (usually most of them are braindead 10 year olds) is not THAT hard. If all else fails, pressing esc + L + Enter is always an option. (The teaming escape critism) I mean, if you're getting teamed on by people with basic knowledge of the game's mechanic and combat, you're basically cooked. All jjs did is delayed the dying proccess, giving you an ever so slightly margin of time to clutch up. Also, if they try to juggle you in combos, they can't. Like you said, grabs don't give you I-frames, that applies to BOTH sides. meaning if they try to hit you from one combo to the other, it will most likely hit the other person. Bonus counter point: you can still escape it even if they try to juggle combos. 3- Community. There isn't really a "CANCEROUS" side to jjs' community, mainly because it mostly consists of casuals. (no braindead clans). The people Z_Mythical address in this vid are really really small. even if they were big, they don't even harm anyone in any way. (ahem ahem sorcerer battlegrounds ahem ahem) Personal touch: I think the more fun game is JJS. That's it. The chaotic freedom that JJS offers is not only a change of pace from every single BG game out there, but is also a more fun experience due to the amount of flexibility and uniqueness it consists off. (Z_Mythich is still right, SBG is for people, and JJS is for people)
great comment! 1 - as for the balance side the only thing I really touched on was the ultimates and as you mentioned ultimates SHOULD beat non-ults. however an ult shouldn't just be a win condition in a fight. it may feel great to be on the ult side but on the receiving end it may feel unfair. I haven't had many times where I fight an ult and have been like "aw if I did this or this then I could've won" usually it's "aw if I didn't get caught in the unblockable blue and gotten followed up with the unblockable hitscan red I would've LIVED" 2 - again good points, but as you mentioned if the enemy has any form of thought of the game mechanics it's basically over. and if all else fails then esc + L + enter. not sure how you don't see the bad part of this, if I am forced to leave to have fun then that's stupid icl. as for the bonus point it all depends but you are right, it is possible but you can't fight back usually lol. 3 - as for this, I have had people come to my DMs and curse me out for criticism I have held about JJS, they are all over my other video comments like flies and are honestly dumb kids. and with your personal opinion I do agree! I enjoy JJS in a more casual environment than I do with SBG. JJS is definitely more flexible with how you play it which gives a bigger feeling of freedom. unironically this is the first comment that I have received that has actually criticized my video without calling me names or just being rage bait. thank you man! :)
@@zmythhh It's really nice seeing a creator not only view my comment, but also respond to it. And since I've got way too much free time on my hands, I'm gonna counter the counter-counter points with counter points! 1. Ultimates I'ma give you credit, you are correct on being the "receiving end" of an ultimate, but there's a reason as to why ultimates are made so OP. 90% of the time, if you're fighting someone and you've joined the game for at least 5 minutes, you're gonna also have ultimate ready just like the person you're fighting. Most (If not all) ultimates are made with the intent of fighting other ultimates. If you see someone using ultimate on you, there's nothing stopping you from ulting back! Bonus counter-counter counter point: The most iconic and noticeable part off JJS is the INSANE lack of i-frames. Every single ultimate move is interrupteable (with the sole exception of Purple), Keeping pressure on the offender is a legitimately good strategy to dealing with Ultimates. (Well, that and running away.(The Superior option)) 2. Teaming (I noticed you didn't address the runners part so ima just take it as a win 🗣) You're still correct, but my point was that most of the time, you WOULDN'T meet people with more than 3 braincells who would gang on you. Most of the people who team have either TERRIBLE team coordination skills (literally me), or are just bad at the game. Bonus counter-count- okay fine ill stop: At the end of the day, teaming isn't the fault of the game's dev or a mechanic or whatever, it's the people that play it that are at fault. BTW, I DO see the bad at the only practical solution to teaming is ESC + L + enter, but it's not like there are many other options besides that. 3. Braindead kids I feel sorry for you having to witness people so dumb. I really hope your content reaches to more people with functioning braincells. (AKA i cant really dispute this cuz.....yk....I'm not rlly a youtuber. The only people i watch on jjs content is fadeunchanged and that gamma guy (the white avatar with the black bandana and cowboy hat). So I wouldn't really know if something like this is true or not.) (End credits lmao) I'm really sorry that this isn't the norm for you. It's great seeing somebody else argue with me about a light topic such as this. "arguing" and "debating" online is the main way of me expressing my creativity at righting and problem solving, so thanks for this chit chat. 'TILL WE MEET AGAIN! (Edit that i thought would be funny) The ultimate counter point to end all counter points: The Shenanigans of jujutsu is something not to be taken lightly
@@zmythhh thing is with teamers, yeah, you cant fight them in a straight up 1v2, but you can use the games map to your advantage. for example, if you are on top of the building, and knock one teamer off, you can get a 1v1 with the other one. or, if you're at a spot near the train station, you can also use that. also, parkour helps big time, if you can get on top of a building then knock one off (assuming they know how to climb) which could easily separate them. the beauty of this game is that theres so many ways to outsmart your opponent, rather than just predicting a move or something
@@zmythhhI don’t quite understand what everyone means with ultimates being “op”. Whenever I’m fighting someone in JJS and they pop ult mid fight I usually win, especially against Gojo users. And for the teaming part I don’t have a lot to say about JJS as people rarely team on me, the game I’ve had most trouble with teaming on is easily Sorcerer Battlegrounds as there’s always massive groups of people teaming up on me whenever I attempt to play it.
I love this video so much I really don’t like sbg because of the flaws lack of community engagement bad community overall and selfish devs but this video made me realize jjs has just as much flaws and the game that you prefer depends on your taste and I at predetermined. enjoyment is subjective.
Simple way to fix running : you run SLIGHTLY faster if someone has their back turned at you and aren't full health (not stackable). if they wanna turn back to prevent this, then they won't be able to run, just walk, and you'll catch up anyways.
I believe that the ultimates doing a lot of damage is kind of the point, every single ult move is cancelable along with the fact that it is pretty easy to escape and survive ults in JJS.
@@ewdesenhistaevery hakari move is cancelable. Purple is countered by 1. If your on the ground stand directly infront of them or 2. Running. You can’t see ANYTHING infront of you while using purple so it’s actually kinda hard to aim.
Half of your reasons why you said jjs is bad is just a skill issue not trying to be mean lol parkour is easy once you learn it and you can beat 2v1s if your good and the op ults are for beating teamers only valid point is the casuals and clan kids but the thing is that every game will have its sweats when you play the game more your going to get better. (This isn't dunking on sb just I wanted to put a new perspective on the game) another thing is jjs has really good teaming control if your getting jumped you can shoot out a burst to knock foes away I already mentioned the ults and the fact that most moves have i frames so its going to be hard to get teamed on if your half decent. Remember this is just my opinion and if you disagree that totally cool this is just my perspective on jjs and If this comment blows up I might do one of sb. Bye :D
Yeah i honestly agree with basically every thing your saying tbh. Parkour can literally be learned in like less than 5 minutes, the ults aren't to bad once you learn how to counter them (specifically gojos and sukunas, which really only require pressure to be put on the user of the ults), and i think the fact that they even added team prevention when other battle grounds games haven't even tried is also cool.
you entirely missed the point. the game gives an incentive to run away in ganks rather than to fight back in the FIGHTING game. if u think running is fun u r actually dumb lol. Ults are OP and you saying a specific situation for it doesn't make it NOT op. as for the anti gank system, i mentioned that it's bad due to the fact that it can be easily worked around by anyone with more than 2 braincells, plus it has a 20 sec cooldown for whatever reason. also about the s, that's untrue and you just didn't care to watch through the entire JJS part since you barely if EVER get s on anything, even mid grab you can be cancelled by other moves.
@@zmythhh Im sorry if the comment came of rude I just wanted to share my opinion on the topic because im a fan of your videos and after all it is opinion based but to add a few things ults are meant to be op thats the whole point of having a ultimate and if you cant agree with that then Idk what to tell you they are ults for a reason and the feature of running away while annoying isnt a flaw as if you know the machanics better then a 2 year old then you will be able to catch up to them also this feature is just for fun and if you really want to get down to the pvp aspect of the game theres a WHOLE system for that. tbh you cant go into a bg game and expect to fight no runners granted running is bad in jjs but still you can learn the mechanics and characters like gojo and yuji who dont have long range options have abilitys to catch up every other character has a long range move that can get you closer to your opponent teaming is a problem I will admit that I didnt explain in well enough in my comment but again every bg game has teamers and if you want to 1v1 you can do that with ranked and jjs isn't really a sole pvp game yes its a pvp game at its core but not like sb kinda hard to explain but I hope you understand btw I did watch all of the video as I am a fan and enjoy your videos enough to leave a comment and most moves do have i frames from normal m1s obv if you count hollow purple or really any ult move the I frames wont be as strong but moves like hollow purple have hyperarmmor and you can not be cancelled. having moves that can be canceled isn't even a bad thing as it stops you from being a imortal god when you use a move this is only a problem for teaming but I kinda coverd that I hope this cleared things up! love your videos thank you so much for replying to my comment if you would like to disscus this futher I am more then happy!
I just want to point out that sb was not going to add mahoraga for megumi but as soon as jjs adds mahoraga and that gets popular. Then sb adds mahoraga.
untrue, ion wanna shill my vids but I went into depth about megumi specfically, mahoraga has been confirmed for months but has been on a hiatus for a while due to alrages personal reasons
@@zmythhh so yes I looked into yeah he has confirmed it for awhile but the thing is in the past he said he wanted a boss for it but then he said he wanted megumi as mastery and as of now it looks like a megumi move.
Update, they just completely ruined the game. It's so stupidly laggy due to the unnecessary map change and Mahoraga that half of the players in the lobby are just flying.
Nah its fine like that, and i think i saw some leaks for a new mechanic that will not be like the key smashing tingies in ofther jjk battkeground, maybe it will be who does the most damage in a period of time that will win the domain clash
@@Imveryboredlmao no... they're focusing on mahito and makora/mahoraga not smth that's not even canon a domain "clash" is whoever open the domain faster or has more cursed energy inside of a domain and even then their domain just rules it over instsead of clashing
The Greatest JJK Game in History Vs The Greatest JJK Game of Today On a different note, literally 12 hours before I uploaded this video they added a Community Manager for SBG, who will be fixing many of the community related issues brought up here.
Honestly a great review of both games. I still remember the infinite black flash combo in sorcerers but i am glad they fixed the dash tech so theres no one shot comboes woth just black flash and foward dashes. Second, jjs is chaotic but great and would be amazing if jjs took notes on sorcerers like instead of the jjs Sukuna domain looking like a McDonald's happy meal. (Lol)
What was the point of the gank portion? There isn’t a battlegrounds game without that problem and, in my experience, has been even worse on Sorcerer’s. Has Sorcerer’s done anything special at all about jumping over the month or so I haven’t played? Did they “fix” the problem that it shares with Shenanigans?
My personal Toji combo in this game after the Nerf is dash attack, 3 m1s, rapid shot, down slam or uppercut, into playful cloud, into 3 m1s into shadow stab
There’s one thing I think you forgot to mention about JJS. The consistent update schedule. So far every update has taken a week, or two at most, and they aren’t low quality updates either, and most add a move or two to a character, and it really keeps the players coming back. Mahito is halfway finished and it’s been like two weeks, meanwhile for a certain green flying girl, she was just recently finished, and was first made in January.
undeniably true. JJS does update faster however that's dependent on how much quality goes into it. SBG had it's mahoraga made custom with Blender which by itself takes time and is expensive. SBG has spent ~500 USD on a custom mahoraga theme and more. I am not glazing, it's just unironically how much money and effort go into some of these things. not saying JJS is bad but I don't think Tze has spent 500 USD on just the custom theme music for a character.
Jjs is more to goof around and have fun with your friends, while sbg is an arena made to fight. The games kinda have different goals, so there isn’t much to compare.
Both Gojo and Sukuna ults are able to be beat through pressure, more specifically gojo (sukuna us definately the stronger ult) I'd personally say gojo has the weakest ult so i dont really get what you mean by gojos ult being unbalanced
@@HaveoStuch-ij2ml Are you playing the right game? if you mean blocking, yeah they can all be blocked except for rush (and grab) but sukuna is just able to use dismatle + rush or grab, main counter to sukuna is keeping up constant pressure, unlike gojo sukuna actually has enough tools to fight back, gojo has one tool to fight back (blue) EDIT: im refering to jjs, not sb
I agree with everything said about jjs nothing is more annoying then stupid teamers saying the dumbest shit 24/7. I stopped playing sorcerers battlegrounds a while because of jjs but this review of both games proves that although they are different in some ways they are the same. Great video keep up the good work
sorcerer bg hasn't been good since they added Halloween, ive not had a single bit of fun in SBG after the Halloween update the game changed from pretty fun to way more focused on competitive gameplay and it sucks(also the game generally sucks now) JJS gets regular updates, there hasn't been a single actual bad update unlike sorcerers, the balance somehow isnt as bad as sorcerers(not saying its good) and its ACTUALLY FUN
i really just wanted to point out on JJS Ultimates ARE MEANT to be broken You Can't Just Beat Someone with Ultimate While your On Your Base Unless You Are Skilled At The game, Because It Is Possible to Survive And Even Beat People With Ultimates If You Are in Your Base Why Whould You Even Want To Use Your Ultimate If You Don't Get an Advantage Over The Enemy Most of the times you have more a bigger combo potential in base rather than in awakening while in awakening your moves do more damage and are way more ''braindead'' in Aba,JJS And other games it is even possible to one shot someone just by clicking 1,2,3,4 or just by using a single skill that doesn't make the game worse by any means because Ultimates Are Supposed To Fight Against Other Ultimates And Even On The Example that you gave Hakari Is Broken ASF in His Ultimate he is litteraly immortal during it he has moves that you can Hit Really Easily
just asking why would sukuna have a blockable grab move that sends the person flying in the air? and for the requires of the ulimates, i feel like its obvious, ults need a way to be balanced
Abt the runners in jjs, i swapped my main from gojo to megumi for this 1 reason, megumi forces you to fight them because all of megumis moves are medium to far range and get people off the ladders, so they have no choice but to fight or slowly lose all their hp
JJS ultimates are supposed to be broken and a tide turner. you can also trash someone who's ultimate when you're in base, as long as you've got the skill. Also domain's are supposed to be near instant wins, just like how they are in lore. Domain's are a major tide turner and almost guarantee wins. Jogo's domain is stated by gojo to have the potential to instantly kill a grade 1 sorcerer and Mahito's domain is an instant win both in game and in lore. Also complaining that the technique based on gambling is too "luck-based" is just dumb. There's a clear bias towards sbg vs jjs and it shows
I agree with all of your points, but one thing you should consider is that all of your criticisms of JJS are equally as bad in SB. I have over 1.8k kills in both of them and played them both from the beginning. SB used to have horrible balancing until 2024 when they started to care more about competitive. It is also important to mention that you are comparing an almost 2 year old game to a game that’s not more than 4 months old.
rant from me but 7:17 , respectfully, thats how they should be. unlike in sorcerers battleground, you can actually hit the person using the domain expansion and it will cancel it, which makes for good counterplay on both parties. you say running is a bigger part of JJS, but youre only including clips of the ranked mode of sorcerers, and the casual FFA version of JJS. also at 7:36 youre pretty much consistently teaming on people lol look at 7:47 theres literally 3 people chasing one guy 😭😭 in the discord server, there has been a lot of suggestions to buff the anti team mechanics and im sure tze is working on something. and despite SBG having far better anti team mechanics, teaming is still very prominent regardless. and finally, at 10:02, you say "im not trying to generalize a big part of the community, but they are the most vocal" but thats literally what generalizing is. both communities have it if you look hard enough, the single comment you showed also has barely any likes.
I think that in JJS its not "Gank or be ganked", its "Be ganked and then gank". Im not really in the game to have a fair fight, if you are low health in a serious 1v1 i will straight up just ult and one shot you and the guy you're fighting with, i just want the kills. (Sorry if this didn't make sense, im not really good at english)
The amazing thing is, there is a game is development called "Realm Rampage" and its literally The Strongest Battlegrounds combat mixed with JJS creativity and destruction.
No way I just watched this entire thing and mythical hyping it up like "this is a definitive opinion" I waited 11 minutes for bro to say "we can't compare them because they are different" if that's the end result don't hype us up the entire time making us thing you would say one is better god damn
the whole point is to draw your own conclusion, imo SBG is better in a more competitive aspect (which i enjoy) and JJS is better in a more casual aspect
@@zmythhhtbf you were hyping this vid up a bit too much but I agree with the sentiment of the vid while I enjoy jjs more than sbg I still enjoy sbg for its combat
Sbg yuji needs a base move set rework or buffs also how old is this recording??? Cus uh most of the things were fixed with jjs like the stun break thing when you get teamed on.
tbh i think this comparison was kinda unfair, most of the criticisms of jjs were about the community, which for judging a game for the GAME isn't really fair. Every problem listed with jjs could be applied to sorcerers- like the ganking problem especially. when making a "definitive" review of a game you should look at the devs and gameplay, the feel and anything like that- the game devs cant really do anything about the community and how they decide to play their game
this is just spreading misinformation, i talked about the community for like a minute and the rest was to do with gameplay. as you said, the same things can be applied to sb, which they WERE if you watched my video. and the ganking problem can't be applied to sb since sb doesn't give any incentive to run away (no ladders, no parkour and you are slowed heavily when damaged/ low)
@@zmythhh whether it was a short segment of your video or not, I don't think it should be a point at all if you're talking about a definitive review of a game itself yap sesh read if you want lol, btw if you ever wanna see some cool jjs maps i got you, love your vids srry if this makes it sound like i dont i just care about the things i like😃 Out of your criticisms for shenanigans (Balancing, runners, ganking, anti-team mechanic, and "the community") half of those the dev cant prevent or fix, it's a problem with the community not the game- compare this to your criticisms for sorcerers (Balance changes, additions, moveset variety, dev communication, "the community") 4/5 can be fixed by they devs opposed to shenanigans 2/5 On the topic of balancing though, I can see your point about the modes being unbalanced, however I still think the modes are balanced with eachother because they all have downsides- all domains are easily cancelable and punishable with a single m1, similar to your points on boogie woogie and how it's punishable- its a much more drastic example, considering if you land it it's an instant win opposed to boogie woogie giving you 1 combo, but it still applies sukunas domain has major endlag, and you can move during the casting of it so if the caster is low, then you can just kill them before it does damage to you, hakaris domain isnt cancelable but in exchange he doesn't get his mode instantly, and is completely luck based (canon and unique opposed to other battleground games) also gojos mode is only good at a medium distance since all moves have long windup and are cancelable except purple which has hyperarmor, but you can just stand next to them if they're on the floor and nothing hits them, megumi id say is pretty balanced since mahoraga takes like 3-5 business days to come out and everything else is cancelable/punishable too jjs glaze incoming i think the best part about jjs is the fact its the only battleground game where each character truly feels like you're playing the character that it's based on- due to the unique R ability each char has it insures the character FEELS different than another ones because they all have unique mechanics - gojo has his teleport which can lead to some satisfying mind games of switching up how you utilize moves - yuji has feinting and the most variants for the best mixups in the game - sukuna has a grab, i agree this is kinda unbalanced but it makes up for him having a worse domain than gojo, since he needs a tool to stop people from blocking his blockable slashes - hakari has a counter, but is balanced by the fact that it cant deal damage against projectiles like manji kick can, which is an actual move instead of an R ability - hakari (jackpot)'s ability is kinda meh, its just ok id say its balanced - megumis ability compliments his zoner playstyle (canon), letting him be a little more passive, which is also balanced because every character has a counter to it, gojo can teleport to gap close, yuji can easily manji kick all the abilities, hakari can deflect the projectiles, and mahito has ranged moves to catch them - mahito's ability is probably my favorite in the game, allowing for the chaotic randomness that mahito really shows in the anime (canon) leading to cool mixups and flashy combos congrats if you read all the yap, thanks again and love your vids dude ♥
Honestly, Sorcerer BG has an issue with runners as well. I can't get into a competitive ranked match because players are so toxic, constantly running away and spamming emotes.
jjs has shenanigans in its name, never taken too seriously, the combat has always been inconsistent, butttttt fun if you're focusing on the aspect of randomness than consistency itself and people in the comments be ratioing this guy for glazing 😭 25k views with 500 likes too 😭😭😭😭
team fortress has that name but half the time my team is missing and i don't see a fortress. phantom forces isn't a game about hunting down poltergeists. the name shouldn't determine the games quality, dumb opinion icl
ty im not really that entitled about my opinion as much as anyone would be but you kinda missed something team fortress 2, you have a team, some of the maps have fortresses and is the 2nd version of itself phantom forces, phantom hinting towards stealthy gameplay as the recommended playstyle(though pretty sure everyone went loud) and forces being armed forces jujutsu shenanigans, jujutsu being jujutsu and shenanigans being shenanigans (woahh i dont know what to tell you) sorcerer battlegrounds, sorcerer meaning as a playable character of the game, battlegrounds hinting that its a fighting game😁 should be clear that the name will only define the game or atleast hint at what a major part of the game would be like, shouldn't always be on the quality aspect
@@batl_e the phantom forces is just what u made up. there's a faction called phantoms that you play as. regardless a name doesn't determine the game, for honor is another example, i can go on
i think the gangs are not a problem for jjs because jjs is a game that teaming is good and recommended any other battleground is very alone even if theres alot of people it isnt that fun but in jjs you can jjk jump other people and do combos with you friends making it fun.i dont like all battleground except jjs that is my favorite.
I have one question (i do not intend to hate on anybody with this question) but why are you bringing up getting ganked when it happens in every battle grounds game? From my 60+ hours of experience it doesn't really happen any more than it would in any other battlegrounds game?
the problem is how it handles gank prevention. almost every move is cancelable even mid grabs. the actual gank prevention doesnt help either as it has a cooldown and doesnt function if they just juggle you in combos
@@zmythhh Hold on, what grabs? I’m genuinely having trouble remembering what grab-type moves are cancelable. Cursed Strikes, Funny Gojo Barrage, Sukuna R, Mahoraga, all of those are uninterruptable outside of specific projectiles. I just don’t get this point considering they’re usually too short to reliably cancel in time.
Not this guy who cant catch runners or beat teamers use ten shadow toad or parkour and teamer are not that good at the game plus they probably teamed on you because you were toxic i was toxic and they teamed on me but i EASILY DEMOLISHED THEM use yuji attack one if the other trys to intervene cancel and manji kick and start dash and m1 ing till manji is off cooldown
To be honest, I like both equally. Sorcerer battlegrounds is good, but the punishing system SUCKS. Fourth M1’s that are missed can’t be punished, and the m1 trading kinda sucks. Plus with Itadori’s black flash. Not to mention the endless pool of Teamers that will jump you for breathing. But on the other hand, JJS is good, but the ults are extremely unbalanced, the anti team sucks, and more. So pretty much, they’re only good with friends as they both have annoying problems that will probably never get fixed.
The anti team is genuinely the best of most battle ground games though it is very janky. But ults being unbalanced is skill issue u can just run. Or parkour
well i guys if your new than the ults can be difficult to counter but once u learn how to deal with them there really not bad to deal with, also the anti team might not be the best but its better than nothing.
@@zmythhh I think what he's trying to say is that it would be hard to have both for some players since it may overload the device your playing on, but Idk if that's what's he's actually trying to say 😅😅
to be fair i think it you be dumb if you always got your jackpot the whole gimmick with hakari is gambling and if you use youre moves correctly and timed right you can win pretty easily
Both are good...the discords...also good... except in the jjs discord you have to be a certain lv to put links in #privet-servers wich is stupid but kinda smart so stupids that aint active dont post there but still doesnt makes sense cause why do this?
Ultimates are supposed to be op and unbalanced wdym 💀 The end was dumb that can be applied to any game and the video was about who was better you cant just end it with they cant compare when the point of the video was comparing
in that case why can't I just spam blue because gojo has six eyes in the manga right? *the point wasn't that it was luck based* the point was that the guaranteed moment you get it is the 4th try, could be sooner or find another way to keep the luck element without the frustrations it sometimes brings.
@@zmythhh Gojo uses blue in all his punches yes, but its not guaranteed that Gojo does it. Its a guaranteed thing that Hakaris ult is luck based. Plus, the Gojo thing is more obscure than the Hakari thing. And making it sooner would be kind of unbalanced, making it at 2 would be so broken. 3 is the perfect number.
LOL 9:34 You're the perfect exemple of the criticism this guy has for JJS. it has too many 10 years old (No offense if you have dyslexia but you clearly don't look old enough to be on youtube. JJS is 13+ btw)
I dont mean to cause an argument but why is this guy meat riding Sorcerer's backgrounds and hating so much about jjs and plus very vid of the guy that i have seen of him comparing sorceros bettergrounds with other games he also comes up with some shit to make seen like SB is the best jjk game on roblox😐
so for the last segment you say "lets see which game is definitively better" and then hit us with the "dont say either game is worse" that doesnt seem like an actual conclusion in any way but your opinion is VERY vocal throughout the video anyways even though thats supposed to be the part where you just list stuff about what makes the games what they are and not your opinion about them which is supposed to go at the end (thats why its called a conclusion). in the end it is your own opinion and we can agree to disagree i guess
damn bro ngl sbg is not bad i honestly like it but your glazing the SHIT out of it. you complained about hakari’s ult being luck based. which is kind wild because hakari is all about gambling your ult theres an auto jack pot on the forth spin too so yeah.
@@Super_Gibbypo Debatable. Most BG games have lately been slowly turning themselves into JJK games for profit, and to drag in more players. TSB included.
i’m still mad you dragged my body through a wall
how are there no replies
Even the youtuber are saying this
@@israellaltanpuia2043 hey be grateful i didnt say "25 likes but no replies? lemme fix that 🤓"
Darn that's crazy ngl
"if you want a chaotic and more destructive experience"
exactly what jjs is, pure chaos, even if u meet random mfs and team with them for no reason, its still chaotic
Team Fortress 2 is chaotic and casual, yet it doesn't need unbalanced or bs situations to be fun lol
@@zmythhh I don't think jjs needs it, it just gives the game more replayability and stuff like that, It'd be pretty boring if you had to look for someone to fight instead of just jumping in, they have the whole side dash thing that lets you break out of team combos for a reason. I play jjs more even tho I got Halloween (I'm praying for an ult🙏) although that is probably because my friends play it too much
@@zmythhh Team Fortress has already been finished, and Jjs is still going through A LOT of things yet. It doesn't make much sense to compare the two, since the only thing similar between them is chaos, and nothing else. I understand what you mean about, but could you explain the unbalanced part to me?
@@ewdesenhistaplay the game look at the moveset?
@@Magnificent-S which moveset
5:59 Buddy, the whole point of this ultimate is the fact that it's luck based, that's pretty much lore accurate, and Tze made an amzing job adapting Hakari's domain to the game.
is it lore accurate that you can manji kick fuga?
@@meowarijaThat quite literally the only thing that needs to be debuffed. Hes a one man army and has done an amazing job so far keeping up with the games updates.
@@meowarijaIn the game it is a fire arrow that goes in a straight line. Obviously it wouldn't be like the anime/manga. In addition to the speed, which is not very fast and could easily be dodged, like a certain boy with gay hair could do in the game
@@meowarija Have I ever referenced Manji Kick in my comment? Does it have anything to do with what I said?
@@meowarijatechnically yes since it hasn't been stated that sukuna controls the detonation
JJS is full of shenanigans
This truly has been... Our Sorcerer Battleground..
@@zmythhhSorcerers battlegrounds is ass like genuine ass, shit on a monitor and you get sorcerers battlegrounds
JJS ultimate's are supposed to be unbalanced, that's like...the whole point. yet you can still beat people with ult easily in base.
This is true
yeah thats accurate
For example,Domains,It’s easy to break and easy to interrupt.
At the same time Gojo and Gahito domains are an easy win with just the tap of a few buttons.
you are NOT being a hakari or sukuna with base lil bro
@@illuminator7709 you can, it’s a lot of luck but with Yuji if you’re good at him you have a chance
im not saying sbg is bad but holy shit this guy glazes it like MAD
sbg pays my bills 🙏
It is bad though.
They spent 97% of the budget on fancy effects and forgot to spend the other half on balancing and game logic.
@TheOpeningDay zip up his pants when your done
nah its bad 💀
@@LamarHenry-dl2tw Since when was speaking the truth about something considered d riding.
"don't you dare post my failure" "sadly i must."
Bruh I wouldn’t consider the anti teaming system to be a bad thing about jjs when it’s the ONLY battlegrounds game that has a anti teaming system
This would be a valid point if jjs didn’t have multiple features/quirks that helped teamers for example if you used a grab move like cursed strikes for vessel and they get hit with an aoe move like divine dog or reversal red only the user gets hit not the person who’s getting attacked which helps teamers since if you get one teamer into a combo they can just brain dead hit u with an aoe move and only u take damage
@@eevee_7175 jjs is supposed to be a true chaotic experience so what that means is that sometimes you get jumped or you jump someone with your friends. So an anti-team would be horrible for it.
Having gang wars in shenigans is one of the best parts Getting into a 4v4 is peak
Y'all having fun having gang wars meanwhile I get jumped by the best players in the lobby for existing
For real was once in a 6v6
Love your vids, but I can't stand seeing my precious jjk game getting criticized like this, so DEBUNKING TIME!!!
1- Balance.
(Since he only tackled the ultimates' balance, I will only talk about it.)
The core/point of an ultimate is to be op. "Balance" is thrown out the window when talking about a mode that is specifically made to be OP and a game changer when fighting.
Ultimates are supposed to come out ontop when against non-utltimates, no MATTER WHAT.
Bonus counter point: almost every Ultimate move is interruptable, even domain expansions. the only exception to this is hollow purple, which is impossible to land at a long distance anyway.
2- Runners.
Unless you're a homuncoulos sitting in your room, playing roblox non-stop with thousands of kills; You're not gonna approach them that much.
Even if you do, (Unless you're yuji) All characters have a built-in move designed to counter (or at least try to) runners. Whether if it's Gojo's blue/R, hakari's/Mahito's balls, or literally megumi's entire moveset, you can always deal with runner to SOME kind of degree.
2- Teaming.
Even though I DO agree teaming is a serious issue in this game, still like runners (although a bit more common), you're still not gonna encounter gang-bangers all that much. even if you do, you got things like Blue, cursed strikes, hakari's R, megumis entire moveset (again) to at least HELP you to some degree.
Speaking from experience, Winning a 2v1 (usually most of them are braindead 10 year olds) is not THAT hard. If all else fails, pressing esc + L + Enter is always an option.
(The teaming escape critism)
I mean, if you're getting teamed on by people with basic knowledge of the game's mechanic and combat, you're basically cooked. All jjs did is delayed the dying proccess, giving you an ever so slightly margin of time to clutch up. Also, if they try to juggle you in combos, they can't. Like you said, grabs don't give you I-frames, that applies to BOTH sides. meaning if they try to hit you from one combo to the other, it will most likely hit the other person.
Bonus counter point: you can still escape it even if they try to juggle combos.
3- Community.
There isn't really a "CANCEROUS" side to jjs' community, mainly because it mostly consists of casuals. (no braindead clans).
The people Z_Mythical address in this vid are really really small. even if they were big, they don't even harm anyone in any way. (ahem ahem sorcerer battlegrounds ahem ahem)
Personal touch:
I think the more fun game is JJS. That's it.
The chaotic freedom that JJS offers is not only a change of pace from every single BG game out there, but is also a more fun experience due to the amount of flexibility and uniqueness it consists off.
(Z_Mythich is still right, SBG is for people, and JJS is for people)
This!
great comment!
1 - as for the balance side the only thing I really touched on was the ultimates and as you mentioned ultimates SHOULD beat non-ults. however an ult shouldn't just be a win condition in a fight. it may feel great to be on the ult side but on the receiving end it may feel unfair. I haven't had many times where I fight an ult and have been like "aw if I did this or this then I could've won" usually it's "aw if I didn't get caught in the unblockable blue and gotten followed up with the unblockable hitscan red I would've LIVED"
2 - again good points, but as you mentioned if the enemy has any form of thought of the game mechanics it's basically over. and if all else fails then esc + L + enter. not sure how you don't see the bad part of this, if I am forced to leave to have fun then that's stupid icl. as for the bonus point it all depends but you are right, it is possible but you can't fight back usually lol.
3 - as for this, I have had people come to my DMs and curse me out for criticism I have held about JJS, they are all over my other video comments like flies and are honestly dumb kids.
and with your personal opinion I do agree! I enjoy JJS in a more casual environment than I do with SBG. JJS is definitely more flexible with how you play it which gives a bigger feeling of freedom.
unironically this is the first comment that I have received that has actually criticized my video without calling me names or just being rage bait. thank you man! :)
@@zmythhh
It's really nice seeing a creator not only view my comment, but also respond to it.
And since I've got way too much free time on my hands, I'm gonna counter the counter-counter points with counter points!
1. Ultimates
I'ma give you credit, you are correct on being the "receiving end" of an ultimate, but there's a reason as to why ultimates are made so OP.
90% of the time, if you're fighting someone and you've joined the game for at least 5 minutes, you're gonna also have ultimate ready just like the person you're fighting. Most (If not all) ultimates are made with the intent of fighting other ultimates. If you see someone using ultimate on you, there's nothing stopping you from ulting back!
Bonus counter-counter counter point: The most iconic and noticeable part off JJS is the INSANE lack of i-frames. Every single ultimate move is interrupteable (with the sole exception of Purple), Keeping pressure on the offender is a legitimately good strategy to dealing with Ultimates.
(Well, that and running away.(The Superior option))
2. Teaming
(I noticed you didn't address the runners part so ima just take it as a win 🗣)
You're still correct, but my point was that most of the time, you WOULDN'T meet people with more than 3 braincells who would gang on you. Most of the people who team have either TERRIBLE team coordination skills (literally me), or are just bad at the game.
Bonus counter-count- okay fine ill stop: At the end of the day, teaming isn't the fault of the game's dev or a mechanic or whatever, it's the people that play it that are at fault.
BTW, I DO see the bad at the only practical solution to teaming is ESC + L + enter, but it's not like there are many other options besides that.
3. Braindead kids
I feel sorry for you having to witness people so dumb. I really hope your content reaches to more people with functioning braincells.
(AKA i cant really dispute this cuz.....yk....I'm not rlly a youtuber. The only people i watch on jjs content is fadeunchanged and that gamma guy (the white avatar with the black bandana and cowboy hat). So I wouldn't really know if something like this is true or not.)
(End credits lmao)
I'm really sorry that this isn't the norm for you. It's great seeing somebody else argue with me about a light topic such as this. "arguing" and "debating" online is the main way of me expressing my creativity at righting and problem solving, so thanks for this chit chat.
'TILL WE MEET AGAIN!
(Edit that i thought would be funny)
The ultimate counter point to end all counter points:
The Shenanigans of jujutsu is something not to be taken lightly
@@zmythhh thing is with teamers, yeah, you cant fight them in a straight up 1v2, but you can use the games map to your advantage. for example, if you are on top of the building, and knock one teamer off, you can get a 1v1 with the other one. or, if you're at a spot near the train station, you can also use that. also, parkour helps big time, if you can get on top of a building then knock one off (assuming they know how to climb) which could easily separate them. the beauty of this game is that theres so many ways to outsmart your opponent, rather than just predicting a move or something
@@zmythhhI don’t quite understand what everyone means with ultimates being “op”. Whenever I’m fighting someone in JJS and they pop ult mid fight I usually win, especially against Gojo users.
And for the teaming part I don’t have a lot to say about JJS as people rarely team on me, the game I’ve had most trouble with teaming on is easily Sorcerer Battlegrounds as there’s always massive groups of people teaming up on me whenever I attempt to play it.
I love this video so much I really don’t like sbg because of the flaws lack of community engagement bad community overall and selfish devs but this video made me realize jjs has just as much flaws and the game that you prefer depends on your taste and I at predetermined. enjoyment is subjective.
Simple way to fix running : you run SLIGHTLY faster if someone has their back turned at you and aren't full health (not stackable). if they wanna turn back to prevent this, then they won't be able to run, just walk, and you'll catch up anyways.
this wont really solve it remember the game has parkour
@@ren1only then they can also make it nerfed once they are low they shouldn't be able to climb or run as fast as full hp player
@@ren1onlyyou could always learn it and enjoy another aspect of the game (parkour is underrated ngl)
this sounds like it would entirely ruin part of the game, hindering a player's movement is never a good solution in a game based on movement
or just make them slower if they are low
Wait, the Restless Gambler’s domain is luck based 😱😱😱 and the domain is called idle death GAMBLE 😱😱😱
Wait everything in the game doesn’t have to be lore accurate
@@Magnificent-S there are tons of things that aren’t lore accurate in the game
I believe that the ultimates doing a lot of damage is kind of the point, every single ult move is cancelable along with the fact that it is pretty easy to escape and survive ults in JJS.
Nope, not every one. Hollow Purple, prob the 4th move of hakari, dunno if u can manji kick it
@@ewdesenhistaevery hakari move is cancelable. Purple is countered by 1. If your on the ground stand directly infront of them or 2. Running. You can’t see ANYTHING infront of you while using purple so it’s actually kinda hard to aim.
@@Mami27SS In this case, is a cancelable thing in terms of preventing the attack from happening, and not in a way to circumvent, y know
@@ewdesenhista all of hakari's ult moves can be manji kicked/ hakari's r countered.
Half of your reasons why you said jjs is bad is just a skill issue not trying to be mean lol parkour is easy once you learn it and you can beat 2v1s if your good and the op ults are for beating teamers only valid point is the casuals and clan kids but the thing is that every game will have its sweats when you play the game more your going to get better. (This isn't dunking on sb just I wanted to put a new perspective on the game) another thing is jjs has really good teaming control if your getting jumped you can shoot out a burst to knock foes away I already mentioned the ults and the fact that most moves have i frames so its going to be hard to get teamed on if your half decent. Remember this is just my opinion and if you disagree that totally cool this is just my perspective on jjs and If this comment blows up I might do one of sb. Bye :D
Yeah i honestly agree with basically every thing your saying tbh. Parkour can literally be learned in like less than 5 minutes, the ults aren't to bad once you learn how to counter them (specifically gojos and sukunas, which really only require pressure to be put on the user of the ults), and i think the fact that they even added team prevention when other battle grounds games haven't even tried is also cool.
you entirely missed the point. the game gives an incentive to run away in ganks rather than to fight back in the FIGHTING game. if u think running is fun u r actually dumb lol. Ults are OP and you saying a specific situation for it doesn't make it NOT op. as for the anti gank system, i mentioned that it's bad due to the fact that it can be easily worked around by anyone with more than 2 braincells, plus it has a 20 sec cooldown for whatever reason. also about the s, that's untrue and you just didn't care to watch through the entire JJS part since you barely if EVER get s on anything, even mid grab you can be cancelled by other moves.
@@zmythhh Im sorry if the comment came of rude I just wanted to share my opinion on the topic because im a fan of your videos and after all it is opinion based but to add a few things ults are meant to be op thats the whole point of having a ultimate and if you cant agree with that then Idk what to tell you they are ults for a reason and the feature of running away while annoying isnt a flaw as if you know the machanics better then a 2 year old then you will be able to catch up to them also this feature is just for fun and if you really want to get down to the pvp aspect of the game theres a WHOLE system for that. tbh you cant go into a bg game and expect to fight no runners granted running is bad in jjs but still you can learn the mechanics and characters like gojo and yuji who dont have long range options have abilitys to catch up every other character has a long range move that can get you closer to your opponent teaming is a problem I will admit that I didnt explain in well enough in my comment but again every bg game has teamers and if you want to 1v1 you can do that with ranked and jjs isn't really a sole pvp game yes its a pvp game at its core but not like sb kinda hard to explain but I hope you understand btw I did watch all of the video as I am a fan and enjoy your videos enough to leave a comment and most moves do have i frames from normal m1s obv if you count hollow purple or really any ult move the I frames wont be as strong but moves like hollow purple have hyperarmmor and you can not be cancelled. having moves that can be canceled isn't even a bad thing as it stops you from being a imortal god when you use a move this is only a problem for teaming but I kinda coverd that I hope this cleared things up! love your videos thank you so much for replying to my comment if you would like to disscus this futher I am more then happy!
@@frog6145 it really wasnt rude
@@Itsmecamden Ok lol just checking
did he just complain about hakaris ult being luck based
💀💀
I just want to point out that sb was not going to add mahoraga for megumi but as soon as jjs adds mahoraga and that gets popular. Then sb adds mahoraga.
if that true its kind funny tbh
untrue, ion wanna shill my vids but I went into depth about megumi specfically, mahoraga has been confirmed for months but has been on a hiatus for a while due to alrages personal reasons
@@zmythhh so yes I looked into yeah he has confirmed it for awhile but the thing is in the past he said he wanted a boss for it but then he said he wanted megumi as mastery and as of now it looks like a megumi move.
@@zmythhh ok thanks for the info 👍
Update, they just completely ruined the game. It's so stupidly laggy due to the unnecessary map change and Mahoraga that half of the players in the lobby are just flying.
if jjs adds domain clashes it will be better imo
Nah its fine like that, and i think i saw some leaks for a new mechanic that will not be like the key smashing tingies in ofther jjk battkeground, maybe it will be who does the most damage in a period of time that will win the domain clash
@@allrightformugiwara2656 me and my friends pop domains really often, so id love to see that anyway.
they are adding that next update most likely
@@Imveryboredlmao no... they're focusing on mahito and makora/mahoraga not smth that's not even canon a domain "clash" is whoever open the domain faster or has more cursed energy inside of a domain and even then their domain just rules it over instsead
of clashing
@@stevepaul7223 they literally have sneaks for domain clashes 💀💀
The Greatest JJK Game in History Vs The Greatest JJK Game of Today
On a different note, literally 12 hours before I uploaded this video they added a Community Manager for SBG, who will be fixing many of the community related issues brought up here.
I doubt they will
That would imply SBG was ever good 💀
@@zmythhh neither of them are comparable to the greatest jjk games but they can be comparable to the greatest jjk battleground games
@@ZackleesolosyourfavoriteverseYou are the greatest JJK game 🔥👍
Shrine will carry SBG into a better light and fix the people inside it but maybe not the game itself but it still helps
Jujutsu shenanigans: Mechanics, fun, PvP, map, emotes, attacks
Sorcerer battleground: Effects
that has to be the best intro I've ever seen
Nice vid, both communies do have their bad sides, but everything has a bad side or a bad history.
Im the best jjk battleground game.
Yes
True
W opinion
as the best jjk battlegrounds game, i can confirm this man is the best jjk battleground game
let me play with you then 😘
I did not even realize this was the great Z Mythical who lead SCPF site delta Anderson robotics! Sir yes sir!
Honestly a great review of both games. I still remember the infinite black flash combo in sorcerers but i am glad they fixed the dash tech so theres no one shot comboes woth just black flash and foward dashes. Second, jjs is chaotic but great and would be amazing if jjs took notes on sorcerers like instead of the jjs Sukuna domain looking like a McDonald's happy meal. (Lol)
What was the point of the gank portion? There isn’t a battlegrounds game without that problem and, in my experience, has been even worse on Sorcerer’s. Has Sorcerer’s done anything special at all about jumping over the month or so I haven’t played? Did they “fix” the problem that it shares with Shenanigans?
great video zmyth
My personal Toji combo in this game after the Nerf is dash attack, 3 m1s, rapid shot, down slam or uppercut, into playful cloud, into 3 m1s into shadow stab
There’s one thing I think you forgot to mention about JJS. The consistent update schedule. So far every update has taken a week, or two at most, and they aren’t low quality updates either, and most add a move or two to a character, and it really keeps the players coming back. Mahito is halfway finished and it’s been like two weeks, meanwhile for a certain green flying girl, she was just recently finished, and was first made in January.
undeniably true. JJS does update faster however that's dependent on how much quality goes into it. SBG had it's mahoraga made custom with Blender which by itself takes time and is expensive. SBG has spent ~500 USD on a custom mahoraga theme and more. I am not glazing, it's just unironically how much money and effort go into some of these things. not saying JJS is bad but I don't think Tze has spent 500 USD on just the custom theme music for a character.
@@zmythhhthe game is intentionally low effort
Jjs is more to goof around and have fun with your friends, while sbg is an arena made to fight. The games kinda have different goals, so there isn’t much to compare.
Both Gojo and Sukuna ults are able to be beat through pressure, more specifically gojo (sukuna us definately the stronger ult)
I'd personally say gojo has the weakest ult so i dont really get what you mean by gojos ult being unbalanced
You are very misinformed most of sukunas moves can be parried or countered and are easy to dodge
@@HaveoStuch-ij2ml Are you playing the right game? if you mean blocking, yeah they can all be blocked
except for rush (and grab) but sukuna is just able to use dismatle + rush or grab, main counter to sukuna is keeping up constant pressure, unlike gojo sukuna actually has enough tools to fight back, gojo has one tool to fight back (blue)
EDIT: im refering to jjs, not sb
Bro all time when i use sukuna domain a gojo ult kills me to cancel it...
Like even max blue deletes half your health
I agree with everything said about jjs nothing is more annoying then stupid teamers saying the dumbest shit 24/7. I stopped playing sorcerers battlegrounds a while because of jjs but this review of both games proves that although they are different in some ways they are the same. Great video keep up the good work
best thing of jjs for me is going against teamers, getting jackpot first try against them is just so satisfying
7:44 If I were being chased by 3 people, I'd book it too 😭
sorcerer bg hasn't been good since they added Halloween, ive not had a single bit of fun in SBG after the Halloween update the game changed from pretty fun to way more focused on competitive gameplay and it sucks(also the game generally sucks now)
JJS gets regular updates, there hasn't been a single actual bad update unlike sorcerers, the balance somehow isnt as bad as sorcerers(not saying its good) and its ACTUALLY FUN
i think jjs is purely worked on by tze and noone else btw
I’m pretty sure it is a small team
i really just wanted to point out on JJS
Ultimates ARE MEANT to be broken You Can't Just Beat Someone with Ultimate While your On Your Base Unless You Are Skilled At The game, Because It Is Possible to Survive And Even Beat People With Ultimates If You Are in Your Base
Why Whould You Even Want To Use Your Ultimate If You Don't Get an Advantage Over The Enemy
Most of the times you have more a bigger combo potential in base rather than in awakening
while in awakening your moves do more damage and are way more ''braindead''
in Aba,JJS And other games it is even possible to one shot someone just by clicking 1,2,3,4 or just by using a single skill
that doesn't make the game worse by any means because Ultimates Are Supposed To Fight Against Other Ultimates
And Even On The Example that you gave
Hakari Is Broken ASF in His Ultimate
he is litteraly immortal during it he has moves that you can Hit Really Easily
Sweat fest VS Fun which one wins
Fun
Both are fun in different ways ??? Are you special
@@Magnificent-Sthey are just haters I seen them keep hating on the comments
just asking why would sukuna have a blockable grab move that sends the person flying in the air?
and for the requires of the ulimates, i feel like its obvious, ults need a way to be balanced
Abt the runners in jjs, i swapped my main from gojo to megumi for this 1 reason, megumi forces you to fight them because all of megumis moves are medium to far range and get people off the ladders, so they have no choice but to fight or slowly lose all their hp
JJS ultimates are supposed to be broken and a tide turner. you can also trash someone who's ultimate when you're in base, as long as you've got the skill. Also domain's are supposed to be near instant wins, just like how they are in lore. Domain's are a major tide turner and almost guarantee wins. Jogo's domain is stated by gojo to have the potential to instantly kill a grade 1 sorcerer and Mahito's domain is an instant win both in game and in lore. Also complaining that the technique based on gambling is too "luck-based" is just dumb. There's a clear bias towards sbg vs jjs and it shows
I agree with all of your points, but one thing you should consider is that all of your criticisms of JJS are equally as bad in SB. I have over 1.8k kills in both of them and played them both from the beginning. SB used to have horrible balancing until 2024 when they started to care more about competitive. It is also important to mention that you are comparing an almost 2 year old game to a game that’s not more than 4 months old.
rant from me but 7:17 , respectfully, thats how they should be. unlike in sorcerers battleground, you can actually hit the person using the domain expansion and it will cancel it, which makes for good counterplay on both parties. you say running is a bigger part of JJS, but youre only including clips of the ranked mode of sorcerers, and the casual FFA version of JJS. also at 7:36 youre pretty much consistently teaming on people lol look at 7:47 theres literally 3 people chasing one guy 😭😭 in the discord server, there has been a lot of suggestions to buff the anti team mechanics and im sure tze is working on something. and despite SBG having far better anti team mechanics, teaming is still very prominent regardless. and finally, at 10:02, you say "im not trying to generalize a big part of the community, but they are the most vocal" but thats literally what generalizing is. both communities have it if you look hard enough, the single comment you showed also has barely any likes.
I wasn't paying attention when the video started so seeing bro's war soilder serious face caught me off guard ngl.
I think that in JJS its not "Gank or be ganked", its "Be ganked and then gank". Im not really in the game to have a fair fight, if you are low health in a serious 1v1 i will straight up just ult and one shot you and the guy you're fighting with, i just want the kills. (Sorry if this didn't make sense, im not really good at english)
The amazing thing is, there is a game is development called "Realm Rampage" and its literally The Strongest Battlegrounds combat mixed with JJS creativity and destruction.
No way I just watched this entire thing and mythical hyping it up like "this is a definitive opinion" I waited 11 minutes for bro to say "we can't compare them because they are different" if that's the end result don't hype us up the entire time making us thing you would say one is better god damn
the whole point is to draw your own conclusion, imo SBG is better in a more competitive aspect (which i enjoy) and JJS is better in a more casual aspect
@@zmythhhtbf you were hyping this vid up a bit too much but I agree with the sentiment of the vid while I enjoy jjs more than sbg I still enjoy sbg for its combat
Sbg yuji needs a base move set rework or buffs also how old is this recording???
Cus uh most of the things were fixed with jjs like the stun break thing when you get teamed on.
Sorcerer shenanigans would be fire🔥
i dont know why people complain about the new dash, i kinda like it
tbh i think this comparison was kinda unfair, most of the criticisms of jjs were about the community, which for judging a game for the GAME isn't really fair. Every problem listed with jjs could be applied to sorcerers- like the ganking problem especially. when making a "definitive" review of a game you should look at the devs and gameplay, the feel and anything like that- the game devs cant really do anything about the community and how they decide to play their game
this! This dude just cant review for shit tho.
exactly he just listed things that could literally happen in any battle grounds game
this is just spreading misinformation, i talked about the community for like a minute and the rest was to do with gameplay.
as you said, the same things can be applied to sb, which they WERE if you watched my video.
and the ganking problem can't be applied to sb since sb doesn't give any incentive to run away (no ladders, no parkour and you are slowed heavily when damaged/ low)
@@zmythhh whether it was a short segment of your video or not, I don't think it should be a point at all if you're talking about a definitive review of a game itself
yap sesh read if you want lol, btw if you ever wanna see some cool jjs maps i got you, love your vids srry if this makes it sound like i dont i just care about the things i like😃
Out of your criticisms for shenanigans (Balancing, runners, ganking, anti-team mechanic, and "the community") half of those the dev cant prevent or fix, it's a problem with the community not the game- compare this to your criticisms for sorcerers (Balance changes, additions, moveset variety, dev communication, "the community") 4/5 can be fixed by they devs opposed to shenanigans 2/5
On the topic of balancing though, I can see your point about the modes being unbalanced, however I still think the modes are balanced with eachother because they all have downsides- all domains are easily cancelable and punishable with a single m1, similar to your points on boogie woogie and how it's punishable- its a much more drastic example, considering if you land it it's an instant win opposed to boogie woogie giving you 1 combo, but it still applies sukunas domain has major endlag, and you can move during the casting of it so if the caster is low, then you can just kill them before it does damage to you, hakaris domain isnt cancelable but in exchange he doesn't get his mode instantly, and is completely luck based (canon and unique opposed to other battleground games) also gojos mode is only good at a medium distance since all moves have long windup and are cancelable except purple which has hyperarmor, but you can just stand next to them if they're on the floor and nothing hits them, megumi id say is pretty balanced since mahoraga takes like 3-5 business days to come out and everything else is cancelable/punishable too
jjs glaze incoming
i think the best part about jjs is the fact its the only battleground game where each character truly feels like you're playing the character that it's based on- due to the unique R ability each char has it insures the character FEELS different than another ones because they all have unique mechanics
- gojo has his teleport which can lead to some satisfying mind games of switching up how you utilize moves
- yuji has feinting and the most variants for the best mixups in the game
- sukuna has a grab, i agree this is kinda unbalanced but it makes up for him having a worse domain than gojo, since he needs a tool to stop people from blocking his blockable slashes
- hakari has a counter, but is balanced by the fact that it cant deal damage against projectiles like manji kick can, which is an actual move instead of an R ability
- hakari (jackpot)'s ability is kinda meh, its just ok id say its balanced
- megumis ability compliments his zoner playstyle (canon), letting him be a little more passive, which is also balanced because every character has a counter to it, gojo can teleport to gap close, yuji can easily manji kick all the abilities, hakari can deflect the projectiles, and mahito has ranged moves to catch them
- mahito's ability is probably my favorite in the game, allowing for the chaotic randomness that mahito really shows in the anime (canon) leading to cool mixups and flashy combos
congrats if you read all the yap, thanks again and love your vids dude ♥
@@kallimarii2104 yeah i agree with you on the r specials and the fact that jjs can’t fix community problems
Running and parkour is integral to jjs, you can’t beat ultimates or 2v1s without it 😁👍
Jujutsu Shenanigans passed up SBG a long time ago 💀
Edit: bro do y’all not know what an opinion is 💀
So true
Get your glazing ah
it's not even a fight anymore jjs no-low diffed
@@OraeoOrville jjs>>>>
@@OraeoOrvilleyour glazing too bro
Honestly, Sorcerer BG has an issue with runners as well. I can't get into a competitive ranked match because players are so toxic, constantly running away and spamming emotes.
idk if this is a ping problem but jjs feels so clunky for me to fight in, the community stuff r fun to watch tho
the reason theres no cm is because he left sbg to work with aspector to make realm rampage
"I tried to keep this video as fair as possible!": Proceeds to say the most insanely baised shit I've ever heard in my life.
jjs has shenanigans in its name, never taken too seriously, the combat has always been inconsistent, butttttt fun if you're focusing on the aspect of randomness than consistency itself
and people in the comments be ratioing this guy for glazing 😭
25k views with 500 likes too 😭😭😭😭
team fortress has that name but half the time my team is missing and i don't see a fortress. phantom forces isn't a game about hunting down poltergeists. the name shouldn't determine the games quality, dumb opinion icl
ty im not really that entitled about my opinion as much as anyone would be but you kinda missed something
team fortress 2, you have a team, some of the maps have fortresses and is the 2nd version of itself
phantom forces, phantom hinting towards stealthy gameplay as the recommended playstyle(though pretty sure everyone went loud) and forces being armed forces
jujutsu shenanigans, jujutsu being jujutsu and shenanigans being shenanigans (woahh i dont know what to tell you)
sorcerer battlegrounds, sorcerer meaning as a playable character of the game, battlegrounds hinting that its a fighting game😁
should be clear that the name will only define the game or atleast hint at what a major part of the game would be like, shouldn't always be on the quality aspect
@@batl_e the phantom forces is just what u made up. there's a faction called phantoms that you play as.
regardless a name doesn't determine the game, for honor is another example, i can go on
@@zmythhh its still close enough lol
If you said sorcerer battlegrounds wasn’t good alrage was gonna ban you to the shadow realm
i think the gangs are not a problem for jjs because jjs is a game that teaming is good and recommended any other battleground is very alone even if theres alot of people it isnt that fun but in jjs you can jjk jump other people and do combos with you friends making it fun.i dont like all battleground except jjs that is my favorite.
“Jjs is only fun when you’re actively ruining other peoples enjoyment of the game”
I think you forgot the actual best jjk game, sukuna battlegrounds🤓👆
For some reason I find it really difficult to go from playing sbg to jjs idk why lmao
Bro I didn’t watch 11m to learn nothing😭😭😭
Did this guy just complain about Hakari's ability being luck based? 💀
Yes it’s annoying and makes him a mid character
realm rampage is coming out i think it has kinda both those things and also with jjs i think only real way to combat ults is with ult...
Keyboard and mouse Handcam Please
I have one question (i do not intend to hate on anybody with this question) but why are you bringing up getting ganked when it happens in every battle grounds game? From my 60+ hours of experience it doesn't really happen any more than it would in any other battlegrounds game?
the problem is how it handles gank prevention. almost every move is cancelable even mid grabs. the actual gank prevention doesnt help either as it has a cooldown and doesnt function if they just juggle you in combos
@@zmythhh Hold on, what grabs? I’m genuinely having trouble remembering what grab-type moves are cancelable. Cursed Strikes, Funny Gojo Barrage, Sukuna R, Mahoraga, all of those are uninterruptable outside of specific projectiles. I just don’t get this point considering they’re usually too short to reliably cancel in time.
Not this guy who cant catch runners or beat teamers use ten shadow toad or parkour and teamer are not that good at the game plus they probably teamed on you because you were toxic i was toxic and they teamed on me but i EASILY DEMOLISHED THEM use yuji attack one if the other trys to intervene cancel and manji kick and start dash and m1 ing till manji is off cooldown
Thank god someone pointed out the teaming problem in my opinion the teaming is getting out hand
The game is based off of jujitsu “jump” kaizen
Both are great but my take on this is JJS better just because i personally find it more fun to play
To be honest, I like both equally. Sorcerer battlegrounds is good, but the punishing system SUCKS. Fourth M1’s that are missed can’t be punished, and the m1 trading kinda sucks. Plus with Itadori’s black flash. Not to mention the endless pool of Teamers that will jump you for breathing. But on the other hand, JJS is good, but the ults are extremely unbalanced, the anti team sucks, and more. So pretty much, they’re only good with friends as they both have annoying problems that will probably never get fixed.
the ults are supposed to be unbalanced and yet you can still beat a guy with ult
The anti team is genuinely the best of most battle ground games though it is very janky. But ults being unbalanced is skill issue u can just run. Or parkour
well i guys if your new than the ults can be difficult to counter but once u learn how to deal with them there really not bad to deal with, also the anti team might not be the best but its better than nothing.
you cant have insane vfx qualities, with a destruction system sir, altrhough it'd be cool
that is very much possible lol, VFX are visual evemts and destruction is environmental effects. two different things
@@zmythhh I think what he's trying to say is that it would be hard to have both for some players since it may overload the device your playing on, but Idk if that's what's he's actually trying to say 😅😅
uppercut after rapid shot to land your shadow stab
this video made me do some jujutsu shenanigans
hakari needs 100% buff cuz hakari keep getting domain broken
That's literally the point of the domain.
It's luck based, either you get jackpot, or somebody breaks your domain.
@@TheOpeningDay i mean broken is getting jumped by Megumi user and ppl just jump hes domain cuz he weak
@@Elixernoob Megumi dont got a domain 💀
@@G00ghlieshe’s talking about shadow swarm and nue glitch
@@G00ghlies it does 🥶
people needa remember jjs is meant to be silly goofy and dumb hence "shenanigans"
to be fair i think it you be dumb if you always got your jackpot the whole gimmick with hakari is gambling and if you use youre moves correctly and timed right you can win pretty easily
Both are good...the discords...also good... except in the jjs discord you have to be a certain lv to put links in #privet-servers wich is stupid but kinda smart so stupids that aint active dont post there but still doesnt makes sense cause why do this?
Ultimates are supposed to be op and unbalanced wdym 💀
The end was dumb that can be applied to any game and the video was about who was better you cant just end it with they cant compare when the point of the video was comparing
bro really started off the vid beating my ass D:
look, I know getting teamed on in jjs is annoying but hear me out.
Its a Jjk game. Teaming is valid and nothing will change my mind
Erm having isues with getting ganged in jjs or with ults is a skill isue
5:22 so is that why I get jumped by 5 gojos and sukunas cosplayers
Alright, running, the main topic this guy rant about can easily be deal with (drum rolls please) parkour better than them.
0:03 jumpscare warning
No way you just complained about Hakaris ult being luck based is a bad design…Dude…The manga..?
in that case why can't I just spam blue because gojo has six eyes in the manga right? *the point wasn't that it was luck based* the point was that the guaranteed moment you get it is the 4th try, could be sooner or find another way to keep the luck element without the frustrations it sometimes brings.
@zmythhh it's not 4th you can get it faster,it's harder to get since jackpot is better than gojo and sukuna ults
@@zmythhh Gojo uses blue in all his punches yes, but its not guaranteed that Gojo does it. Its a guaranteed thing that Hakaris ult is luck based. Plus, the Gojo thing is more obscure than the Hakari thing. And making it sooner would be kind of unbalanced, making it at 2 would be so broken. 3 is the perfect number.
jujust senisgi is fun they have unique things like the R spicials
LOL 9:34 You're the perfect exemple of the criticism this guy has for JJS. it has too many 10 years old (No offense if you have dyslexia but you clearly don't look old enough to be on youtube. JJS is 13+ btw)
I dont mean to cause an argument but why is this guy meat riding Sorcerer's backgrounds and hating so much about jjs and plus very vid of the guy that i have seen of him comparing sorceros bettergrounds with other games he also comes up with some shit to make seen like SB is the best jjk game on roblox😐
so for the last segment you say "lets see which game is definitively better" and then hit us with the "dont say either game is worse" that doesnt seem like an actual conclusion in any way but your opinion is VERY vocal throughout the video anyways even though thats supposed to be the part where you just list stuff about what makes the games what they are and not your opinion about them which is supposed to go at the end (thats why its called a conclusion). in the end it is your own opinion and we can agree to disagree i guess
damn bro ngl sbg is not bad i honestly like it but your glazing the SHIT out of it. you complained about hakari’s ult being luck based. which is kind wild because hakari is all about gambling your ult theres an auto jack pot on the forth spin too so yeah.
POV per nerfed yuji and yuta (I played the game in middle of season 2 of jjk )
TBH if someone vote jjs im kinda say he/she is glazing cus that game made of tottaly minecraft blocks im not saying i hate jjs just posting my opnion
Cursed arena crying in the corner
Trash ahh game
@@Notkryo yea… it is lacking in a lot of stuff but it is still fun sometimes
Jujutsu Beatdown is a conception game that's SBG and JJS combined it has smooth combat. ABA air combos, and destruction
Personally I prefer my Roblox games to cause me to want to go out side :)
I start with shenanigans like 3 weeks ago and i can have fun solo and with friends mb is just me and all things that can happen
Well when u find yujiro hanma doing a 1v1 with piano against minos prime while sukuna is doing a friendly rock paper scissors game with a pumpkin
the strongest battlegrounds is the better jjk game bro on god
Some of you need to learn what sarcasm is...
This is a jjk game comparison that have nothing to do with the video
It’s not even a Jjk game
Y’all are dumb aren’t you
He already knows it’s a jjk game it was a joke
@@Super_Gibbypo Debatable.
Most BG games have lately been slowly turning themselves into JJK games for profit, and to drag in more players.
TSB included.
Fun vs skill requirement
If I'm going to be honest the complaints for jjs is just a skill issue
me in hakari ults: ragdoll funni : 3