TK Kirkland on Taraji P Henson: How Does a Co-Star of a $167M Budget Movie Only Get $150K? (Part 3)
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TK Kirkland continued to speak out against the notion that an entertainer can be an industry plant. He emphasized the need to see African Americans who can greenlight a movie in Hollywood. The conversation shifts to Taraji P. Henson, who, despite having a successful career as a co-star, has not garnered much success as a leading actress, hindering her pay. Vlad advises that established artists like Henson should make their own films to exert control over budgets and their pay. However, TK and Vlad highlighted the fault was not entirely hers but partly her agency for underselling her as a costar and accepting a lower budget despite her being the glue to the movies she's in.
That Jason Weaver Lion King story brings tears to my eyes, I love his mother so much for that wise business move!
Yup turned down that bag for a percentage of the royalties
I Love that story.... She came threw on that one 🤷🏾♂️
FACTS!!! I love the fact that she recognized that way down the road, it would be more profitable in the long run! That takes foresight! And 2 million is nothing to sneeze at! Big Props to the Mom for that!!
Jason came from a middle class family That means educated family …. So I’m not surprised by what his mother did…. If they was on the projects she would’ve took that 2 million… you have to wait for royalties..”
OMM❤
I don't know why Vlad keeps referencing peoples net worth from what he's seen on the internet to make an argument. As a multi millionaire himself, Vlad knows damn well that published celebrity net-worth's are at best grossly inaccurate unless you're talking about the Forbes list and Bloomberg wealth tracker which Taraj P Henson is not going to be on.
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Exactly...💯
By people net worth you mean celebrities net worth? And by published you mean Taraji P Henson addressing her income publicly? Bro what the fuck you want him to talk about? The weather? Lol
WELL SAID! Other than the Forbes list, quoting ONLINE published celebrity net worths will almost always give you a grossly inaccurate figure 99% of the time. It is a very unreliable source. I used to believe it was pretty accurate until I started doing business with several individuals that they say are only worth 700k, and they have 10 times that amount in cash sitting in their account.
@@loudeville865Taraji talking about her income is completely different to her net worth. What someone makes per year and what someone is worth entirely are two separate things.
Remember Dave Chappelle said, "your agent is one of THEM too".
The agent does more deals with the studio than just her or one client. Studio and producers tell agent that if you want other jobs and other clients to work with us you gotta knock them all down to keep your relationship with us. Agent works with the studios, not for the client. Client is shorter term than the overall relationship with the studio. Not much different than two realtors negotiation the sale and buy but putting the seller and buyer second in importance. The two agents are working together to make more for each other . Don’t get me started on how prosecutors and lawyers talk to judges behind close doors. It’s a crime what they do to the defendants and plaintiffs.
GREAT INSIGHT! I know when Empire ended there were talks of a Cookie spinoff, BUT it never came to light. Then a few weeks ago, I remember seeing a clip where Taraji admitted to firing her whole team post-Empire for NOT maximizing the potential deals and projects for the Cookie character; spin-off, endorsements, etc.
It truly does come to the team that you have around you that can either make or break the deals/contracts that you sign up for.
I could've definitely saw Oreo or Chips Ahoy do a commercial with her character
If you can read this your a horrible actor you remind me of a b movie every time I see my bm watching sistas you try to hard just act like the camera not there 😂
What Could Her Team Do If She Didn't Own The Rights To The Cookie Charactor?
@@thekoolbreeze negotiate with the owners of the character for brand deals and whatnot.
All these years and TK is still rocking the Homer Simpson goatie!!!! 😂😂😂
🥸 TK dressing like Russell Simmons now?
😂😂
🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️😂
Russel Simmons actually saw him in a sweater first before he started def comedy jam.
😂😂😂😂
That means he about to make a trip!
The problem for black actors in negotiating for high pay is they must establish themself as a mainstream draw. Without that leverage, they can be easily swapped out by a different actor.
It's true and really she has not been willing to do that. She needs to play a character who could be played by any actress. Proud Mary they went with trying to make her Pam Grier 2010s.
I like how vlad is pretending like Jewish people haven’t been ripping off blacks for nearly 50 years now. Starting with rappers in the 80s.
@@TheHarryDunnefacts ❤
I disagree. If that’s the case, every Black actor is only as good as the role they’re offered that’s deemed “mainstream”.
They don't have to be actors or actresses black white or any color. They can have regular jobs and then complain about that. Nobody makes you be an actor
Vlad must pay a pretty penny because I don't know why people keep going on his platform?
@@YaYa-dp6vfyou watching
Because you keep watching the videos 😏
So dope that Jason’s mother negotiated that deal. The average person would’ve taken the $2M and rode off in to the sunset. And not only that, how many of us are in a position to turn down $2M? Although it’s common-sense on her behalf, common-sense is not always common. I’ve made a mistake similar to this, not to the tune of $2M but somewhat similar. An artist - that I worked on some production for - reached out to negotiate the publishing. I gave him 100% of it. Turns out that he was a superstar in his native country and the song went big. It was a terrible mistake but it forced me to make better decisions.
Just have to have forward thinking. I think Jason's mom was looking at the fact it was a Disney movie in the 90s. All Disney movies hit like crack in the 80's. They have cult like followings...
We are all in a position to turn down 2m. You didn't have it before, right?
Vlad talks like it so easy. He thinks because he runs a rinky dink RUclips channel that it is equivalent to making a multi-million dollar movie. Black ppl in Hollywood are never compensated fairly.
AGREED. And well said.
If making millions of dollars is rinky dink then where do I sign up?
Agreed
This is not a racial issue. This is a movie studio trying to keep the budget as low as possible. You don't think white actors get lowballed too? It's up to your agent to negotiate. Alot of these actors egos is inflated and the value they have on themselves is not the real market value
Exactly when I hear someone like Halle Berry or Angela Bassett complain I will take it seriously. @@jesussinaloa9300
Vlad is talking to much for me. I want to hear what the guest have to say
yes he is talkin' 2 much 🙄
Don’t understand how people keep getting it wrong. She wasn’t crying about what she gets paid, she’s crying that her starting point of comp negotiation is much lower than it should be.
It’s like being a senior manager at a job for 20 years, not a CEO, and every new job they start out your salary range at $40,000.
You’re like “do you see what I’ve done…I should at least STARY at $100,000. Fine I need to get into a new field or industry - you’re cheating me.”
🎯Thank you! Vlad is changing the narrative
Ain't that the same thing if she accepts the money
But we do know what is true, she signed the contract. She accepted or her team or manager accepted it on her behalf. That's on her an her team.
What has Taraji really done??? Empire doesn't count because that's television. Hidden Figures doesn't count because that was an ensemble cast. Benjamin Button doesn't count because that was a Brad Pitt vehicle. Tyler Perry projects can't be measured because most of his movies no matter who the actors are makes around the same average. That leaves Taraji's outstanding resume with low box office, break even, and failure movies.
Every actor has to negotiate their fee and Taraji doesn't have the box office record to demand high fees. Benjamin Button was her first big budget/ big box office film. Benjamin Button was Brad Pitts 20th movie that made at least $100 million. Of course she is not going to make anything close to him or anything close to B list pay.
@@seedking40 I think that Pitt movie was a career move over money. If I do this movie with Brad Pitt and I knock it out that park it could propel my career. She did well and won an academy award for it. But I think the real question is did she and or her team at that time put her a position to ride that wave and take advantage in contact negotiations after she won an academy award? Idk
Vlad…I don’t believe you seen every movie Taraji been in….I am a black female who watch movies all the time and I haven’t seen every movie Taraji been in
@@YaYa-dp6vf Yep😂😂😂
2:34 Re: TARAJI Producing her own projects, she was Executive Producer of ‘No Good Deed’ with IDRIS ELBA (2014), ‘Proud Mary’ (2018) and ‘What Men Want’ (2019). She has also spoken about trying to get her own movies made in the past like the T.I. podcast.
An Executive Producer is a person that brings a certain aspect to the project. It's not the same as an actual producer, who helps built it up. It is a vauge title that someone that help get actors on board, or mediated aquiring funding, stuff like that, gets
@@tcity6334 it depends. Some are just money people, but some are actively involved. You can identify them through a Producers Mark (p.g.a.) that identifies which producers performed a majority of the producing functions on a specific motion picture in a decision-making capacity.
How much did she make on these same projects? For her to be complaining about pay after movies she was executive producer in makes interesting reading.
I definitely agree with Taraji getting her own production company & staring in her own movies. That way works for most actor/actress. I remember when 50 cent had low budget films playing on BET ALL the time before he took over Starz
That's a great idea. And could work. But not everyone is built to be a "boss". Stepping out on your own and doing all that takes a different level of talent and satisfaction.
But you shouldn't have to be a business owner or production company owner to be paid fairly, Taraji just wants to be a working actress and get paid a salary commensurate with her talent and resume. I don't think that's too much to ask.
TK Kirkland always look like he fighting falling asleep 😴 !!! 😂
Camron voice "ayo b
Pocket watchin leads 2 ear hustling leads 2 pillow talking
Pillow talking lead 2 back stabbing "
I once took a job making 31K. I later found out my majority counterparts were making $45K. But, at the time I had not worked in 6 months and needed the job. They knew it and took advantage of me. But, it happens.
My pushback for the Benjamin button point with the budget will be. The agent made the right decision for that role for her to take for the money. Will smith told a story in his book about the same situation. Will was offered the lead for eight heads in a duffel bag for 10 million and his agent convinced him to turn it down because he wanted to be taken seriously as an actor and be a big movie star then months later he was offered six degrees of separation for 300k which in turn led to him being looked at as a potential leading character. So her team has dropped the ball on her capitalizing on future opportunities and money.
So he had to get fucked to blow up? Cause thats what his role was in that movie was to get fucked.
In other words, her team do not know what they are doing.
@@reginayfavors big facts. Which is why she recently fired her whole team. Years ago the rock fired his whole team for the same reasons and he then became the biggest movie star at one point for years
TK dressed like a 90s substitute teacher
The Harley hat is the icing on the cake
😂😂
Taraji should've used that Benjamin Button and Oscar as a springboard to something larger. She did Empire and was gping to do a Cookie esqe spin-off. Both are majority urban audiences. Blame her and her agent for not being more informed
Taraji would kill it on Netflix and Tubi. Would be the best thing playing
Tubi!
@@briansteward5085 they paying those folks decent too 🤣 . I believe in her AND them
@@bigflexonthebeat3022 Tubi is owned by Rupert Murdoch; they are paying them well as in the union minimum but not what Netflix is paying.
That's a supposition.
Taraji could have done a RUclips channel reaction to her own episodes, week to week, while she was on Empire
That is a wonderful idea, but they probably blocked everyone from personal monetization.
They not letting those actors profit off their show
@@dennisjohnson7139NOT TRUE! The actors from, "Smallville" literally have a channel here on RUclips where every weel they watch a new Smallvile episode and talk about it! They make good money and also have Patreon for it as well
Officer Vlad back at it ….
Jason’s mom was so smart
and then when the agent says i wont take it; the exec producer says call octavia spencer; call alfre woodard; call lynn whitfield; call audra mcdonald etc etc etc
Shout to TK, always giving out great advice like a OG should.
Damn Vlad can you just let your guess talk sometimes without interrupting them smh
It's cringeworthy at times
Until you have the experience of being a talented black woman in Hollywood and put in your time over decades, and then have her onset experience as well which is another conversation, you are speaking above your pay grade
Vlad just interjects his guests too much! Takes away from most of his interviews with great guests. Its ok to be quiet at times and give the guests an opportunity to express their thoughts.
And he always feels the need to retell something he has told at least ten times before 🤦🏾♂️.
The reason why Joc’s interviews are always fire is because Shawn lets him speak his mind thoroughly.
I would've cursed Oprah out for giving me 150k if I am a top tier actress like Taraji Henson. She is a damn good actress and I have seen every movie she has done. She is also down to earth as hell. Give this lady her money !!
My guy has two outfits on at once. 😂
The fact that yall fail to mention acrimony is crazy she did an outstanding job
They talking about big budget films! I’m surprise they didn’t say Hidden figures
@@dickersonr6172 vlad mentioned hidden figures
@@dickersonr6172Acrimony had a bigger budget than Baby Boy and Tyler had way more buzz than John.
@@dickersonr6172Stop running your mouth and learn to listen clown…………
Tyler Perry gave her $500,000 for Acrimony
Corey Holcomb also mentioned how those Agents can sue them if they try and fire them and get someone else. Corey Holcomb said an agent sued him for him trying to leave the agent.
Taraji plays Taraji even when the characters are significantly different. I think based on observation that she has that Mary J Blige factor. She has skills that make her a favourite amongst her demographic. She just isnt particular interesting to watch and does not 'surprise' with her range.
Her networth is estimated and anyone can play her casting choices.
I think Cookie (Empire) was way different than Catherine (Hidden Figures).
@@candygirl657 Yes the characters...not Taraji.
She spoke on this! She initially wanted $500k for the role in Benjamin button and they came back and told her absolutely not and offered her $75k. After going back and fourth with them they ultimately came to an agreement of the $150k, which is still crazy to me… the fight for black women to get paid what they deserve is crazy
Dont no body care about her complaints she lives better then average person she aint missing no meals she aint struggling tryna pay bills living in a 6 million dollar mansion fk outta here
One of the first rule they taught us in business class was to never accept the first offer
The word around Hollywood is probably out that she will take less, studios don't want to give Denzel 20 million but they know that's what it takes to get him. Any business would pay you less if they could.
This is true is my artwork would 20 instead of 300 I’d gladly give him 20 bucks instead lmao
Bro, they did catch Eddie with that transvestite
T.K be saying anything and agreeing with anything GLAD say just to secure a spot on the couch. Smh. 🤡 sh't
Rumors suggest that Henson initially sought a $500,000 salary but ended up accepting $150,000 for her -co-starring- supporting role in the 2008 film "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button." Notably, the movie had a budget spanning from $150 million to $167 million, and Henson earned an Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actress due to her outstanding performance. Considering her current prominent position in the industry and the high-profile roles she now takes on, it seems that her compensation may not fully align with her remarkable talent and the prestige of the roles she secures. Is this a result of shortcomings in her management or indicative of the challenges related to race and gender within the film and television industry?
She didn’t costar in that movie. Cate Blanchett was the costar.
@@RaynellJamal Damn. I never watched so I didn't know. They over hyping her role as co star.
@@andremiller1566 still only 150k is wow when the movie made 150 mil
She was in that movie for like 20 mins... still a lot for 150k and a newcomer
@@andremiller1566 yeah most people didn’t know she was in the movie until it came out and they saw it. She did have a break out performance and was nominated for best supporting actress. But people talk about it as if she was on the movie poster. She only had 16 mins of screen time out of a 2hr 46min movie.
It has to be noted that Benjamin Button was Taraji's first big Hollywood role in the sense that she saw mainstream and crossover success (Hustle & Flow and Baby Boy were mainly for urban audiences). Taraji did try to negotiate, but it was either $150k or nothing at all.
Funny you mention Hustle and Flow. Terrance Howard asked for more money for the Marvel movies and they replaced him. So saying that they didn't negotiate well enough is disingenuous. Marvel replaced Howard with Don Cheadle and he ended up being War Machine in 7 movies plus TV shows and videogames. It's damned if you do and damned if you don't.
@@JELIFISH19Actually, Terrence Howard was paid much more in the first Iron Man film than Robert Downey Jr, and RDJ was the star of the film. In Iron Man 2, because of the massive success of the first movie, Robert Downey Jr’s pay increased which resulted in Terrance Howard’s pay decreasing for that particular film, and Howard wasn’t willing to accept that.
@@davidelliott1594 And lets keep in mind Terrance only got $12k for Hustle and Flow, but took home a slew of awards and nominations for that film. The character he played as also became a meme lol.
@@ghyprhdamn only 12k he got nominated an Academy for that, that’s fucked up. And I heard he was the reason for RDJ was cast as iron man. Damn Hollywood
@@JELIFISH19That's Terrance mistake. This was the beginning of the MCU he couldn't imagine the infinity Saga being so successful long term because it literally has never happened in Hollywood history. You had stuff like Spiderman and Blade that lasted for 3 movies but never a universe of movies and crossover movies within a continuous franchise. He over played his hand and it cost him. Eventually they would have had to pay Terrance more because his continued exposure in multiple $100M+ films would give even the supporting cast some credibility for a higher fee, it just wouldn't have been an increase at the RDJ level. Negotiating just means you have room but that doesn't mean you are automatically going to get what you want.
McDonald’s workers work for a billion dollar company and only get 12 dollars a hour.
So do the people making 60k - 80k a year. Working for a billion dollar company and only getting 80k. 😂😂
This was a great interview
Taraji need to take accountability stop blaming others she said in the past she once fired her entire team,
now here we go again, blaming others,
Looks like the math is mathing
Taraji
-Fired the team
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=Taraji
Taraji
-Color Purple rant
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=Taraji
Shifting the blame to the agent doesn't address the real problem. She has to be held accountable regardless of who said what.
STOP LYING. You clearly don't know how business works.
He’s right though. They hire agents to negotiate the best possible deals on the best possible projects. It should be in their self-interest too making their cut, unless that agent has even more high profile clients that are priority as the agent’s real cash cow
@@joojoobaw Exactly, Thanks. That race doesn't know anything they just believe what Katt Williams said and Celebrities say.
@@joojoobaw I didn't say what he said wasn't true. I said at the end of the day it's her career and she has to sign the contract and do the work. An agent's advice is not the end all be all. Jason Weaver's agent brought him a $2M deal for Lion King. His mother negotiated a better deal giving him residuals. The agent doesn't have the final say so and sometimes have their own motives. According to Taraji she just fired her last team recently.
Yall are missing the fact that Hollywood at that time would’ve moved on to a lesser known actress who would’ve taken $150k or less.
Monique made some of the same points as Taraji everybody told her to shut the hell up and be grateful you're getting the money you're getting.
Go look at the precious box office numbers😭💯
The Tyler Perry of the world, not plural to my knowledge
There are little Tyler Perrys running around tho self-funding their own projects, even if not at the same level
The issue is Hollywood has always undervalued Black actresses!!
Taraji fired her team and is still not getting paid what her white counterparts with lesser resumes get!!
She gets paid less than white tv background actresses (Big Bang Theory, 2 Broke girls) get when she’s starred in big budget films, starred in blockbusters and starred in two tv shows. She’s won awards and has multiple nominations.
Google that conversation with Octavia Spencer and Jessika Chastain where Jessica always wanted to work with her and said they should get paid as much as the men do when women are the stars of movies and Jessica was surprised when Octavia had to tell her about the huge salary gap between Black and white women!!
Name who exactly are her counterparts
@@Ivanblock757 I mentioned the tv counter parts already, she was paid less for Person of Interest than the female actors on Big Bang Theory who were background players, same thing with 2 Broke Girls, that show was garbage and they made more than her!
Taraji is the only one brave enough to talk about the pay disparity; how tf are any of the main characters making so little off of a big budget film produced by Oprah and Spielberg and released by one of the largest studios in Hollywood??
How long ago was Benjamin Button and she’s basically getting cut a check for the same amount, over a
Decade later when she’s put in the work??
That’s the same for Regina King and Angela Bassett! And Niecy Nash!
@rlbk525 the female actor was the star of Big Bang Theory, what's are you talking about. Also the stars of Big Bang Theory negotiated for all the actors to get paid the same. Also Taraji made more the the actors on 2 Broke girls. I'm not sure why just saying stuff that's not true..
@@Ivanblock757 I said the co stars of Big Bang Theory,Kelly was the only female star of the show and the whole staff giving up a portion of their salaries to “support” mayim and Rauch came after Empire ended years later!! Those two made more than Taraji ($200K vs $150K) even though they were secondary stars and Taraji was a star on one of her Networks biggest shows!!
Okay, she made $25K more than the 2 broke girls per episode; those chicks are definitely less talented and were lesser known though! Taraji had Oscar buzz behind Benjamin Button and Hustle and Flow going into Person of Interest, she actually made more than her male co stars at first!Those chicks weren’t known for Jack when their show started, not compared to Taraji!
I actually think some of the undervaluing is Black related when it comes to Taraji, first Lee daniels and now oprah! 😆
Low budget aZz Tyler Perry has paid her much more than Hollywood ever did with their enormous wealth!!
@rlbk525 your logic doesn't make sense, you comparing TV show to movies and comparing what one network pays its employees to another network. Maybe Taraji should have done comedy, maybe she should have turned down some movie roles, maybe she need better management. Majority of actors are underpaid, male and female, white and black. The star of the Sopranoes had to threaten legal action and quit to get paid. I like Taraji but she a supporting actress, as a lead star her movies flop
Vlad been tripping lately. I need someone to put him in his place in HIS platform
It might be impossible. You are talking about a person who lives in a bubble. He doesn't process things that can control your success (luck, timing, etc.) or issues he would never have to deal with (having kids, gender, race, etc). His solutions are unrealistic for most people... No, it wouldn't be wise for her to get people to work with her "for free". Nothing is free. Especially for an attractive woman.
Maybe you
Vlad needs to interview Tarahji
BW's R SELLOUT'S so why? It's ova for Eve...Watch!
Yeah she can use the money
She signed a contract. Why did she take the part?
Idk, How As A Bricklayer I Only Make $38hr On A Project That Budgets $5Mil ?
Exactly
🎯 applies to basically every job... the relationship between laborers & capital owners is almost always exploitative
There more going into the whole of the project more than the bricks. What’s the difference in a $38/h brick layer and the $48 one
@@jac0bh7821The same goes for movies. What’s the difference between Angelina Jolie and Taraji? One adds more return on investment than the other.
Taraji shouldnt fight this alone. Has enough industry big brothers who love her and could help her get money. The rappers are brilliant with contracts and ownership. Get 50/Cam etc to look over her contracts and ask them to go with her for contract talks. With them they won't let her sign anything until they get everything they said they wanted for her. They say we should want to do everything all alone. But why when there are so many brilliant guys just a call away who would care and help her win beyond her dreams? Why is crying alone in interviews the better option? 🤷🏿♀️🤔
When your getting fucked and playing only sexual roles you paint yourself into a box you can’t get out of
Bill Cosby needs his wardrobe back 🤣🤣
TK Kirkland is way classier than Aries Spears. He converses with Vlad, EVEN when he disagrees.
Aries puffs his chest out because everybody expects him to put Vlad down.
You can’t tell me TK Kirkland knows everything 💀
He acts like he does.
Wisdom comes with age
I also think that knowing what an artist could earn and not giving them what they're worth is where the problem starts. Taraji made it clear that she's fought for every penny.
Vald never lets noone talks
They are talking just fine. Vlads angle is conversation.
Well, we all make decision based on situation. I don't think she made a mistake. She just made a decision. And it's something to learn from.
Vlad is being disingenuous with his view on this situation. I agree Tariji should have negotiated more for this role and possibly not taken it, especially how the company thought so little of their stars. I wish all of OUR top stars would boycott major studies until WE are compensated fairly. Produce your own content.We will still support you. Screw Hollywood!
This is on Taraj. She is the one that accepts the contract. Also, she is not a huge draw. This is typical in every job. Certain people agree to a pay, then find out the guy next to them makes more and they get upset. You agreed to the pay!!! I learned early on that negotiating pay in the interview was always appreciated and seldom done. During an interview, you are interviewing them just as much. Know your worth.
Look, I am a 65 year old business man. It has never been fair. Whining has never done anything but end opportunities. Almost every successful person needs luck and backing. Then, you must choose roles that elevate your value until you can leverage or start your own.
TK dressed like “Ronnie” on Raising Kanan 😂😂😂💪🏽
CLUB SHAY SHAY 📺 NEEDS A TK KIRKLAND INTERVIEW 2024 TK CLUB SHAY SHAY FACTS ✅️ GOD BLESS 🙏🏽
Shay shay sucks ass
Vlad, REALLY LOUD: Taraji should do movies for free.
T.K, soft spoken: I agree with everything you said Vlad
😂😂😂😂
Right. Like TK stop being a sucka.
I mean they're not wrong. She doesn't really have many options. Find a way to make your own films or get a better team behind you to negotiate better deals. Not sure what else to say. I mean she's a great actress but she's not a silver screen draw I believe.
I agree with vlad ppl need to understand the business it’s never personal
Vlad is funny, just cause we know each other doesn’t mean I will work for you close to nothing
She got paid what she sign for
If you get what you agreed to you were not cheated. You settled for less.
Facts
4:25 -- actor salaries don't go up based on the budget, it goes up based on how much they value that actor. Majority of Benjamin Button's budget went to paying Brad Pitt ($20M), Cate Blanchett ($13M) & the VFX they needed to make Brad look like a freak show because that's what producers had to sell through to the studios to get the investment in the first place¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That part. The salary is set before they start filming.
What is sad, is that in 1978 Diana Ross received $1 million for the Wiz. Today, top talent Black actresses are still not seeing big pay days. SMH
Why not pay yourselves? Always waiting for the whites and Jews to pay you. Blame ourselves
We need to have Usher Raymond or Jason Weaver's mothers on this show to give the real deal behind negotiating.
Jason Weaver lol
Usher mama gave him to diddy.. Soo...😮
@@jammikaogletree821 All yo conversations end in talk about butt. You nasty.
@@jammikaogletree821 NOT TRUE!!!! Usher was signed to LaFace Records at the time. LA Reid sent him to NYC for artist development and he was the EP of Usher's self-titled album. Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil. If he was that bad to Usher, why did Usher jump on "I Need a Girl" years down the road? Didn't Diddy come out to Usher's Vegas residency...YES!!!
@@kerry2921 Yeah!!! JASON WEAVER! I didn't StStStutter!!!
Not everybody is as astute as Jason Weaver mother. Not everyone knows how their agent is initially. Tariji been in the business 20 + yrs so somebody explain it to me!
Is this a Vlad interview or a TK Kirkland interview?
Would someone please tell Vlad that Tyler Perry is the exception and in no way the rule. Smdh...
Teraji simply has been living beyond her means and she was getting robbed. She had the wrong people around her.
That's a very silly statement to say someone is living beyond their means when you have no idea of their expenses and their income... The fact that she complained about her pay is it different topic entirely. Speak on what you know
@@rolio9775these people can’t hide their hate no matter how hard they try
@@rolio9775”your worth is what someone is willing to pay you “….. nobody is giving her no 20 million for a film Tyler Perry is a black billionaire and he wouldn’t cause it doesn’t make sense financially you not seeing a return on your money she gets $10 million a movie that’s what Jennifer Anniston gets also difference is Jennifer still gets Friends paychecks also has plenty of endorsements and a popular show on Apple TV Taraji relies on acting gigs that’s the difference she has nothing else according to the internet and before you say Taraji is a better actress Jennifer has a friends fan base behind her that Taraji doesn’t movies she’s been in has grossed well
@@bravey456 The worst part about using that quote is that you actually believe it. To walk around life buying into that sort of philosophy is more tragic than anything else you could have typed here....
@@bravey456oh believe me Taraji is getting back end points and residuals on everything she has done in her career.
The answer is simple. She had no leverage, so she took the deal. This is business. When people know that you will accept a low offer, they will not give you a good one. That is life. She was not well-known to the public back then, and this was an opportunity for her. They low-balled her, and she took the deal. It has nothing to do with her race or the fact that she was a woman. Elias Koteas who at that point was a much more established actor probably got a similar pay day for the film.
Stop making sense to people lol she probably didn’t get lowballed like ice cube said a movie budget has to stretch it’s a lot of people that has to be paid her role could be replaced they had Brad the movie was going to do numbers regardless
Has literally everything to do with race and being a woman. Women and people of color command less money because audiences usually wont watch a film full of minorities or women. These are well documented facts. Almost all the movies that are loaded with minorities or women didnt start to succeed until like 7-8 years ago.
Even then for every 1 that succeeds their are 5 movies with white males lead/majority movies that do as well.
I dont think tiraji is a big enough draw but to say thats not because shes not a black non biracial woman is crazy.
That is capitalism, that is the market. You can't force people to go watch movies they do not want to watch. If you make a movie with an Asian male as a lead in Nigeria, it likely will not do so well. Black people would rather go to a Viola Davis movie than a Meryl Streep one. The market dicates demand and pay. That is life. If there is no demand, you can't force producers to pay people that will not bring in audiences and make the project profitable? Why would they throw money down the drain? You would do the same. They are looking to make a profit, not to be fair to everyone and lose money. @@iamrysheem
@@tcity6334 im not saying what you are saying in your last comment is not true. I said that saying that it has nothing to do with her race and her sex is not true. Both are the reason why she was not paid as well as someone else may have been.
But I am not 100% in agreement that just because their is seemingly no market that their is not market.
I think alot of these so called business people are just lazy and scared to show that they arent actually good at business and are just managing a business that someone else already built.
You would think their is no market for 3d movies until a avatar movie comes out.
Somebody made a movie that was worth seeing in 3d and now you have one of the biggest movies of all time. Everybody else just tried to make a quick buck. So nobody went out and saw those other 3d movies.
When you keep consistently only making low budget bad movies for women or minorities the market now equates that as being bad before it even comes out.
If you give every great script to a white man to make for a largely white cast than of course no market exist for women or minorities. So you now have a situation where that cant command as much money.
The only reason why i can say in the last 8 years that changed is because the companies actually started to give those opportunities and bigger budgets out to other people.
@@tcity6334 if you gave the benjamin button movie to will smith it’s not still a good movie? It still wouldnt have been successful? If the mom character was played by a mid tier white actress they are still going to pay her 150k?
Like come on neither of those would have been true. They pay people what they know they can get a way with paying them.
I think vlads missing the ENTIRE point
LOL!! She walks on Benjamin Buttons and the part goes to another actress that took less money. No one is irreplaceable. No ONE.
Taraji fired her entire team because they were not doing their jobs apparently. If you have a team of people that you are carrying on your payroll monthly to negotiate on your behalf we shouldn't have seen her face period! In general if you feel that the pay was not sufficient walk away from the role or negotiate for more money. If you accept the terms of the agreement for the the amount offered why complain.
But she just fired them…and complained and cried on Color Purple tour about everything but the movie. But now begging ppl go see it
Hard work doesnt get you success. Determination does. That is solely the reason for the saying "You can do anything you put your mind to. When you think that way you allow yourself to actually do ANYTHING for success. Rumors usually dont last when they are false...Going against morals and integrity to gain success is literally apart of EVERY "successful" human beings story. When you actually take the time to look into the folks you consider successful in this world of entertainment and media you'll get why "selling your soul" is always brought up.
When a black woman is talking about racism in Hollywood I don’t get why a White Russian called Vlad has such a big opinion on this. Viola Davis is saying the same thing you can say she ain’t a lead big actor
Tyler Perry be greenlighting movies
Taraji doed need to fire her agent. Sounds like she needs pivot and do something else or fire her current team.
I don't think she had any hit movie's that's what it's about
I said the same exact thing about Taraji P Henson only getting $150,000 from a movie that had a budget of $167 million. That’s insane and it’s ridiculous and disrespectful for them to offer her $150,000 and she is the costar. So for Vlad saying that she shouldn’t say anything is completely out of line and he’s also disrespectful. It was clear it was about Race.
name one movie before benjamin button where taraji was lead that was a blockbuster
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She didn’t costar. She was a supporting actress with only 16 mins of screen time.
Then she shouldn't have signed the contract. Was it for the idea it was a Brad Pitt movie and this could get me further in my career if i knock it out the park or was it for money?
@@jamescoleman1574 Exactly!
People dont realize that the budget is for the ENTIRE movie production. All the PRE and POST production work. The people that feed you during your filming are paid from that budget. The people who put on your make-up are paid from that budget. The sound, lighting, editing, promotion, travel, extras, and rental people have to be paid from that budget. So it isn't about the actors alone when it comes to that budget! As Ice Cube said, "Some people have to be paid every day." So lose me on that. The budget has to pay for EVERYTHING, not just the actors!
This is so stupid bc Taraji said they offered her $75k and they negotiated to $150k. They were already playing with her.
A physician assistant makes 150k without overtime. I don’t like the fact that she did all this talking and people was supporting her then she backtracked and was like Oprah was helpful. She made herself look bad, who is going to want to work with her cause the movie/ musical flopped due to her crying and then comes back and was like go see the film cause it’s a good film and it was over shadowed. Like what?😮
I don't think these guys understand what's going on. For a black female actress it's very hard to get a role in Hollywood. It's hard for white women to get paid well so imagine how it might be for other racial groups? Sometimes it's better to just get paid- knowing you have something coming in.
She played herself. There are only 4 or 5 black females of the caliber they would hire. She didn't want to take the risk of loosing the role to those other 4 black females so she didn't push it and take the risk. End of story. It's all about how much you believe in yourself and market value and willingness to walk away if not compensated properly
So 😂😂 tell her to do something else
@@jesussinaloa9300 or they just generally pay people who aren't white less. Per usual. American history to today.
@@jesussinaloa9300 Remember Terrance Howard? They removed him from the MCU for asking for too much. He played the character and they found a replacement. Don Cheadle replaced him and he went on to do 7 movies plus TV shows and voice acting for War Machine. Don Cheadle probably took less than what Terrance Howard was asking for but it probably paid off in the long run. Walking away from certain opportunities will screw you in the long run. But you don't know which ones will end up screwing you. Hindsight is 20-20. It's easy to say that she shouldn't have taken that role but she probably took it expecting it to catapult her career. It didn't.
Why would I want to see more black women in movies?
TK just repeating what SUGE KNIGHT said about mangers.
Suge knight - Collect Call Podcast
I absolutely Love when Vlad interviews TJ Kirkland, DL Hughley, Michael Jai White and John Salley!
Vlad let your guests talk!!
the reason she got paid 150k is because she signed the contract . end of story
The issue is the unfairness.. BEFORE the contract is signed.
@@cmunnerl ppl aren’t going to give away money so if you want it you have to fight for it . Men or women
@@ras6857 Give away....who said anything about giving money away
Two men talking about the industry they aren’t in
So?
Taraji needs to get paid for her she is the best
Tk needs to take some pointers from Tony Yayo
She knew the job and how much it was paying before she signed the contract,we all have choices. 🤷🏿♂️
Vlad is starting to get super comfortable he is a dangerous person to the urban community
Please stop hating 😂😂😂
@@RealityForTheReal f$$k Vlad he needs to go cause problems in his community
@@RealityForTheRealplease stop hating the truth
@@rla8713 what has the truth got Vlad, super paid, cause y'all can't help but to commit and watch, when your opinion is the newest asshole 😂😂😂
I’ve been saying this. She has bad people representing her. She's complained that she's not working enough and she's not making enough per project. That all points to her agent.
It’s winter time fool😂😂