If I remember right, LG intends to refactor that plant for more generic LFP cell production instead of trying to build ever-changing custom designs from automakers. But we'll see. There is certainly a huge demand for non-Chinese-made LFP cells.
Nissan is all but done. Their hesitation on EV's killed them. That's despite having the Leaf for a decade and a half, but refused to do any miningful improvement to it in all that time, and did everything to get rid of the CEO and engineers who created it.
Even excluding the months they were offline due to the San Fransisco incident, they have been driving Houston streets for about 12 months. Maybe more? They never got to the point of going public with the ride service, still have human drivers behind the wheels (they had started fully empty drives before San Fran, but brought back drivers on restart).
John, love to see you back every once in a while. Normally, I'm glad you get a break from the daily show. Sean is doing wonderfully. Been watching almost 15 years now.
Yall should get someone from Comma on to discuss their approach to autonomy! It eoukd make the funding that GM lit of fire with cruise seem even more wild!
@@davidbeppler3032 13 miles per disengagement. Why won't Circus Monkey (who is big on transparency) release the statistics? What is Circus Monkey hiding?
@@davidbeppler3032 re: "Just ignore v13". just ignore that time "exists" and has a direct monetary value attached to it (everybody knows this) and ignore that 8 years has been spent for you to still be conspicuously sitting in the FRONT SEAT where everybody (and a classroom of 5th Graders) can see that you haven't achieved true LEVEL 4 Autonomy, "HA HA...!!!"
Shuffling execs reminds me of a British Telecomms (formerly General Post Offfice in the UK) letterhead. This was in the form of a piece of tickertape. Clearly no-one in the marketing or admin department could read it. Some savvy engineer where I worked deciphered it. It said " Always in the shit, but the depth varies." A typical engineers joke.That was 50 years ago....
Selling V8 Dodge and Ram vehicles to the US only is not going to save these companies. The car industry is a worldwide industry that needs worldwide sales to stay alive. V8’s are simply going away worldwide. The ICE industry has been shrinking since 2018. Meanwhile EVs have been rising and costs lowering. Next year it is projected that EVs will dip in price to ICE levels and after that EVs will steadily drop in price while ICE continues to increase year over year. You cannot sell V8 vehicles that have less power and much less efficiency compared to EVs for higher prices than EVs and expect to survive for very long.
All the robo taxis will go away. It was a waste of money from the beginning because the market is not there. There is no 50 billion a year on the table and there never will be. In the US public transportation is just not that popular and people need cars for other uses than just getting from place to place as a pre scheduled trip. Even if it were free people wouldn't use it.
Another GM marketing nomaker that promised to beat Tesla winds up getting crushed under the bus. Hmm. It looks like reality is beginning to set-in for the legacy car makers, only 12 years after they should have figured it out. But it seems like even if management is beginning to really understand the dead-end path they put their companies on, many of the employee unions still do not. Judging by what VW workers seem to be striking on, it looks like a lot of workers still don't understand that the world is going through a major technological transition that no amount of striking could even make a dent in. Social Media bubble worlds seem to be doing a good job prolonging this chaos. -Matt
It'll be interesting to see how Chinese car buyers react when the "cash for clunkers" program is finished with. EV fans here feel the same worry about Trump ending the federal EV subsidy of $7,500. The times, they are a-changing!
GM killing Cruise just shows that they realized... like other players.... that Tesla is getting close to a total solution. In order to do what Tesla has done GM would have to build data centers and have top notch software teams and spend hundreds of billions. Not going to happen so they folded. Much cheaper to license FSD from Tesla once perfected. They should have realized this awhile ago however and have wasted a lot of money.
CyberDumpster tackles China. What a load! Now all the Chinese EV makers can build a facsimile copy, but at a reasonable physical size and at a reasonable price.
From Tesla legal: "“Currently neither Autopilot nor FSD Capability is an autonomous system, and currently no comprising feature, whether singularly or collectively, is autonomous or makes our vehicles autonomous"
@@bobbbobb4663How old was this Tesla quote, 2020, 2021! Elon said Tesla doing supervised FSD in Texas and California same as Waymo currently in 1st quarter 2025!😊😁📈💥🚀👊🤑🎉
Too bad about Cruise, maybe they didn't want to take a chance on 4 years of trump / musk uncertainty $. The payoff on a autonomous taxi is you save the wages of one driver, vs equipment + liability, doesn't seem worth it in the short run. The public and government don't seem super supportive
1:12 - i'm going to allow it. the Google Megacorp now has "first mover advantage" over everybody (including Tesla) so in the end this is for the best. besides GM's right to focus on their in-house Supercruise feature since it's already proven to "beat the pants" off FSD and Blue Cruise alike. also lets see Google race Lemans, F1, AND build a 1064hp car (with a warranty) that goes 233mph. # CORVETTE CRUSHING FERRARIS PLAIDS AND FAN BOY FEVER DREAMS🤙
There's a Challenger out there on a Tesla Plaid Chassis and power-train. They fit almost perfectly..Stellantis should order some from Tesla and make them. I think Tesla has ModelS over capacity at this time.
2:25 I agree the only autonomous vehicle providers that matter are waymo and zoox. Well there was some other minor company begins with a T, Tes-something, but they should not be mentioned in this context.
I bought a book on aphrodisiac foods to spice up our love life. Now my husband insists on eating oysters for every meal. I think he misunderstood the concept🍭
GM: we have no vision and are in crisis mode.
😂It comes hand in hand."we are in depth shxt because we have no vision"
You did it, Mary. You did it!
That’s was GM’s motto back in 2009 as well…
That’s was GM’s motto back in 2009 as well…
What did you expect from the company who crushed all their EV1's and sold the technology to big oil Chevron/Texaco?
Nikola, Cruise, Leaving LG hanging in the wind with the Battery plant, You did it Mary!
HKN Honor Society member Mary finally says autonomous is not possible! Meanwhile, Circus Monkey keeps plowing money into a untenable scenario!
You beat me to it
Leading electrification, eh? HA!
If I remember right, LG intends to refactor that plant for more generic LFP cell production instead of trying to build ever-changing custom designs from automakers. But we'll see. There is certainly a huge demand for non-Chinese-made LFP cells.
LS swap anyone?
Nissan is all but done. Their hesitation on EV's killed them. That's despite having the Leaf for a decade and a half, but refused to do any miningful improvement to it in all that time, and did everything to get rid of the CEO and engineers who created it.
I blame Carlos
Should have created the Leaf Family when announced... Sedan, Sports car, etc.
@3:53 OEMs are shuffling deck chairs on the *Titanic.*
Exactly what I was thinking haha!
The EV Apocalypse is coming.
Yup. Pretending the ship isn't sinking while the music is playing is all but here... Bye-bye, Nissan! Bye-bye, VW! Bye-bye, GM!
LOL, my thought exactly.
❤ Great Job John ❤
John adds more energy and some flair to these episodes in my opinion.
Thanks again John!
How does Mary Barra still have a job?
Nissan, listen to me; There is NO substitute for good product. Geez Louise!!!
"Go on..wait, that sounds hard. F-it, we're going with 'use premium pricing to bluff that we have quality products'." - Carlos Tavares, probably
$9 billion down the drain at the same time can't build a competitive small vehicle. Some job, Mary!
She must have pictures of the entire board of directors with a goat
@@Rhotz-ix8ll I doubt it, if I had that I'd never leave the house...
Cruise blows the autonomous vehicle sector alright.
Even excluding the months they were offline due to the San Fransisco incident, they have been driving Houston streets for about 12 months. Maybe more? They never got to the point of going public with the ride service, still have human drivers behind the wheels (they had started fully empty drives before San Fran, but brought back drivers on restart).
How are they going to replace the NACS charging port with that China specific standard? There’s literally no room for it.
They can provide compatible Adapter
Teslas use ccs in europe. It can be done
Somehow I think full automation is still just 5-10 years away.... Even in 2024...
John, love to see you back every once in a while. Normally, I'm glad you get a break from the daily show. Sean is doing wonderfully. Been watching almost 15 years now.
3:22 what’s his name?
Cruise dissolving was not a big blow to the autonomous sector. Don’t be dramatic. They had nothing to offer in the first place.
They need to spin it less negatively. GM marketing team is well and alive. Lol
Waymo's lack of competition is a very bad sign.
Why no story about the new small Bugatti EV now being sold at Costco stores just in time for Christmas delivery?
Elon was right. GM now say they are looking into end to end AI.
Autonomous Driven miles on E2E: 0!
@@bobbbobb4663 Your right! GM will achieve exactly that many miles.
@@dclpgh So will Circus Monkey unsupervised!
The changing of execs at Nissan sounds akin to re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic....
Hi John, you might find the story about Mr. Assad's auto collection to be interesting.
Funny to see these legacy automakers shuffling their executive leader positions, somewhat like changing seats on the titanic!
Yall should get someone from Comma on to discuss their approach to autonomy! It eoukd make the funding that GM lit of fire with cruise seem even more wild!
Maybe we don't want them.
Comma is NOT comparable to Cruise, they were aimed at very different things. Comma isn't even comparable to Tesla FSD.
How about something oh, I don’t know, affordable, simple and won’t take an eight year loan to pay off?
Where's BobbBobb been? TSLA All-time high 🔥🔥
Right here. If Tesla stock equaled success, then they would have solved FSD by now right?
@@bobbbobb4663 yep. Just ignore v13. My Tesla does 99% of the driving on 12.5.6.4. Can't wait for v13.2!
@@davidbeppler3032 13 miles per disengagement. Why won't Circus Monkey (who is big on transparency) release the statistics? What is Circus Monkey hiding?
@@bobbbobb4663 re: "If Tesla stock equaled success, then they would have solved FSD by now right?" BAZZZING...!!!
@@davidbeppler3032 re: "Just ignore v13". just ignore that time "exists" and has a direct monetary value attached to it (everybody knows this) and ignore that 8 years has been spent for you to still be conspicuously sitting in the FRONT SEAT where everybody (and a classroom of 5th Graders) can see that you haven't achieved true LEVEL 4 Autonomy, "HA HA...!!!"
Shuffling execs reminds me of a British Telecomms (formerly General Post Offfice in the UK) letterhead. This was in the form of a piece of tickertape. Clearly no-one in the marketing or admin department could read it. Some savvy engineer where I worked deciphered it. It said " Always in the shit, but the depth varies." A typical engineers joke.That was 50 years ago....
Had to look up Continental CEO spelling - Olaf Schick. The way it was pronounced the ending sure sounded like a "t" :)
Buh-bye Nissan
Selling V8 Dodge and Ram vehicles to the US only is not going to save these companies. The car industry is a worldwide industry that needs worldwide sales to stay alive. V8’s are simply going away worldwide. The ICE industry has been shrinking since 2018. Meanwhile EVs have been rising and costs lowering. Next year it is projected that EVs will dip in price to ICE levels and after that EVs will steadily drop in price while ICE continues to increase year over year. You cannot sell V8 vehicles that have less power and much less efficiency compared to EVs for higher prices than EVs and expect to survive for very long.
You can get a Model 3 for $35k. ICE has already lost.
@@gnoxycatlies ... U must mean slightly used model 3s...
How would anyone take a promotion in Nissan?
An impossible task.
Yes indeed.
John, John, John
Cruise folding is a blow to the autonomous sector? No, actually, nothing changed in the sector, and it only matters only to GM.
Microsoft had a minimum stake in GM’s Cruise, take impairment charge of $800 million in 2025!😮
We can discuss GM at nauseum; however, the bottom line remains: GM continues to do "things" that SHRINK its business. How does that make sense?
Nissan is arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. They are done.
I thought Cruise was ahead of Tesla? What happened? My sarcasm meter is pretty high.
Show me don't tell me.
They still are. Circus Monkey can’t figure out how to get any autonomous permits.
All the robo taxis will go away. It was a waste of money from the beginning because the market is not there. There is no 50 billion a year on the table and there never will be. In the US public transportation is just not that popular and people need cars for other uses than just getting from place to place as a pre scheduled trip. Even if it were free people wouldn't use it.
GM's Cruise only had pedestrian technology and was a drag on the company. ;)
Another GM marketing nomaker that promised to beat Tesla winds up getting crushed under the bus. Hmm. It looks like reality is beginning to set-in for the legacy car makers, only 12 years after they should have figured it out. But it seems like even if management is beginning to really understand the dead-end path they put their companies on, many of the employee unions still do not.
Judging by what VW workers seem to be striking on, it looks like a lot of workers still don't understand that the world is going through a major technological transition that no amount of striking could even make a dent in. Social Media bubble worlds seem to be doing a good job prolonging this chaos.
-Matt
It'll be interesting to see how Chinese car buyers react when the "cash for clunkers" program is finished with. EV fans here feel the same worry about Trump ending the federal EV subsidy of $7,500. The times, they are a-changing!
WINNING $TSLA 🚀🚀🚀
Just hit $420
GM killing Cruise just shows that they realized... like other players.... that Tesla is getting close to a total solution. In order to do what Tesla has done GM would have to build data centers and have top notch software teams and spend hundreds of billions. Not going to happen so they folded.
Much cheaper to license FSD from Tesla once perfected. They should have realized this awhile ago however and have wasted a lot of money.
Tesla getting close? Bet not.
CyberDumpster tackles China. What a load! Now all the Chinese EV makers can build a facsimile copy, but at a reasonable physical size and at a reasonable price.
Now the Chinese need implement A cash for Future Clunkers program. Those things will rust before they get off the ship
can't even mention Tesla when listing leaders in AV tech .... so so very sad!
From Tesla legal: "“Currently neither Autopilot nor FSD Capability is an autonomous system, and currently no comprising feature, whether singularly or collectively, is autonomous or makes our vehicles autonomous"
@@bobbbobb4663How old was this Tesla quote, 2020, 2021! Elon said Tesla doing supervised FSD in Texas and California same as Waymo currently in 1st quarter 2025!😊😁📈💥🚀👊🤑🎉
@ Cite which permits are needed for supervised L2.
How can GM break the law like that? If GM does not build out a robotaxis, Tesla will have a monopoly. GM is breakingvthe law.
Tesla has a monopoly on supervised self-driving!
Why American cars are so bad?
Not as bad as the Type 00 Faguar.
Because the best engineers in America go the aerospace industry and the defense industry, so the automotive industry gets the leftovers.
@@JP-gw9ts Looks like Russian.
Yes, Cars can get from the world.
Tesla cars are so bad. Wompy wheels and lousy software.
Toyota issued recall on their BZ4X for wheels falling off. Took over 6 months to resolve.
Too bad about Cruise, maybe they didn't want to take a chance on 4 years of trump / musk uncertainty $. The payoff on a autonomous taxi is you save the wages of one driver, vs equipment + liability, doesn't seem worth it in the short run. The public and government don't seem super supportive
1:12 - i'm going to allow it. the Google Megacorp now has "first mover advantage" over everybody (including Tesla) so in the end this is for the best. besides GM's right to focus on their in-house Supercruise feature since it's already proven to "beat the pants" off FSD and Blue Cruise alike. also lets see Google race Lemans, F1, AND build a 1064hp car (with a warranty) that goes 233mph. # CORVETTE CRUSHING FERRARIS PLAIDS AND FAN BOY FEVER DREAMS🤙
Ford F-150 Lightning Among CR’s Least Reliable Vehicles!
There's a Challenger out there on a Tesla Plaid Chassis and power-train. They fit almost perfectly..Stellantis should order some from Tesla and make them. I think Tesla has ModelS over capacity at this time.
2:25 I agree the only autonomous vehicle providers that matter are waymo and zoox. Well there was some other minor company begins with a T, Tes-something, but they should not be mentioned in this context.
agreed
Circus Monkey can't figure out how to get a permit!
If you define "autonomous" as "proof of concepts that can't scale", then yes, you are correct.
@TheLastMoccasin I failed at communicating irony
@@NoInfoFound Not completely 😉
I bought a book on aphrodisiac foods to spice up our love life. Now my husband insists on eating oysters for every meal. I think he misunderstood the concept🍭