Thumbs down because your surprise at the end is just more self promotion. Nothing of real interest for the viewer, just another way to make more views.
At 0:57 in 0.25 speed we clearly see he extracted 29 bones from only 8 visible skeletons instead of the 15 MINIMUM with max drop from each, required to get that amount of bones. More, at 0.57 we clearly see when the explosion happen, than at least 2 skeleton are still standing and still walking. And then, a CLEAR CUT with way more bones and NO surviving skeletons (by magic probably) And when asked for it the runner was extremely defensive and arrogant about it. But the facts are there, he cheated, killed the last skelztons and added more bones to get 29 instead of the 12ish expected killing that amount of mobs, and that's obvious. Just admit it
@@jamiewoodward9169 Tom scott made a video on it, basically the compression works by only saying which pixels change, and there is so much change frame to frame that the compression just shits itself due to data constraints
I was wondering how this TAS was so fast, I was like “I get they’re fast but mining a whole chunk in 3 minutes is impossible” but finding a chunk that’s 90% empty and converting every piece of stone to moss was genius.
all these comments looking for splices and "cheating" while entirely ignoring that this run was made by two people taking turns doing segments. Of course it's spliced, the savegame literally moved PCs before being continued lol
Yeah, you know how hard it is to coordinate a TAS with someone that is 11 timezones away from you? That save has gone around the world like 4 times haha
From what I can see the only accusation that holds any water is impossible bone drops from the skeletons. In order to get the 29 bones from the skeletons there would've needed to be 15 skeletons minimum (skeletons drop between 0-2 bones). (And at that point in RNG manipulation I don't see why you don't just get 30) And they may not be on the screen for long but there does not appear to be enough to reach that threshold. RNG manipulation is a part of TASing as long as you remain within the bounds of the original game.
You could do one of these with Replay mod right? Assuming there's no RNG you could get the same one twice to sort of have a verified one then a cinematic one? Or is hard to replicate a run?@@TechnesY
@@lazykb yeah now that i think about it, it is kinda hard to do. Maybe i will do it for a special, i know the tools but they will require a lot of tuning
Right off the bat, I gotta say, love your choice of music, Lace is a great taste of Silksong's soundtrack! Hope it comes out finally lol Cool speedrun btw, the redstone pauses got me haha
I was wondering what was going on with the moss until I realized that it was being dug in a chunk-shaped square... then I was wondering why it was being done underground. Then it zoomed out at the end and I marveled at the utter genius of this TAS.
@@mrosskne my educated guess is that the only requirement for a mining-chunk speedrun is that you have nothing but air from bedrock to sky limit. start with mostly air, then you don't need to mine as much
0:26 What's that weird stutter in the video? There was a similar one when it switched from technes' part to pie's but I don't see why it'd happen randomly at the temple
I don't know, if this was analyzed or not, but if the mossification pattern is random, maybe it's technically possible to have every conversion cover the maximum area of blocks, and never produce additional vegitation, which would be significantly faster. I guess it also would be hard to code in.
Yeah overall i think we can improve this specially if i go in with 0.5 tps and do a really dedicated run and with your improvements and other stuff, but that's maximum 20 seconds shorter. It is faster to just find a better seed haha, more tnt and less blocks to mine will make this a sub 2 TAS
the strat with the moss was insane also is it possible to use tnt for the redstone ore or is it a bigger timesave to mine it manually? i could see tnt being used to destroy the redstone along with surrounding moss, the redstone ore seems to be the spot with the biggest shave potential
@@InvalidOS yeah i told AlPie there was a better way to use the tnt its just very difficult to prove its faster. If i could re do this TAS i would probably investigate the best use for it
Thanks m8 you don’t know how much this type of comments mean to me :D Yeah ofc (i am new to the newer versions of minecraft so i have the same problem) but there is now a block called moss that when you bonemeal it it turns other surrounding blocks into moss, which can be instamined. I hope this helps and thanks for the comment
I’m curious; how did you manipulate the RNG of the moss to exclusively change blocks within your chunk? Or does it simply not effect “wall” blocks / blocks with another block on top?
I'm pretty sure they were bonemealing perfectly so that it wouldn't hit the outside edge, let's say that moss can grow up to 5 blocks away from origin, then all you have to do is place it at the 6th block from the border and you get the maximum blocks in the chunk for the bonemeal you're using.
Yeah it does not affect the wall blocks. Also one of the timesaves of this category (idk if i should call it timesave because it may only save like 3 seconds and there are other things that may save a minute) is to do a mod that does the perfect pattern/luck of bonemeal to decrease the amount of times you need to pause to place and bonemeal the moss. Sorry for the late response!
Nah i thought that the amount of blocks that the bonemeal reached was fixed too, but it is rng dependant (like everything in this game haha). If it were fixed (which we can do with a mod) we could do that part a bit faster knowing the patterns and when to bonemeal :p
yeah, forgot to explain this but in the mine a chunk category mining a region of 16x16 is considered a chunk. It is used the same chunk in this tas and in the wr
Oh that boss fight against sir caterpillarissio was tough, I still have nightmares of him. But the music was such a banger, cool to see you use it here
I didnt know moss turned deepslate into moss, I thought it was just dirt. That makes this stuff so mich easier! Maybe I can dig out the rest of that map area down to bedrock a bit easier now
Yeah i am not going to lie that was kinda new to me when i started this TAS hahah i have been playing only 1.16 and below so a lot of the new stuff surprises me too
Good question. In this case, it's not possible. You need to be playing in a version where the loot is randomized for you to get a specific tool from a structure. But in this case, a desert temple can't give you a gold pick (i dont think any structure can). It could have given me 3 gold ingots and made a piclaxe with the sticks from bushes, but i played this in 1.17 iirc which is not a randomized version
Ohh you mean the chunk grid? Yeah, that was not supposed to be there. The rules on speedrun.com stipulate that it must be a 16 by y by 16 area, and therefore, you can use whatever area that you want, it doesnt necessarily have to be in the grid.
Then you also didn't notice the cut where suddenly 2 more skeletons are dead than one frame before and also dropped a few more bones than you would expect at 0:58 to 0:59
@ThylineTheGay yeah, i tried not to listen to these 2 tracks too, because i didn't want to be spoiled but i ended up listening to them and one of them fit perfectly here, so i couldn't waste my chance :p Sorry for the spoilers D:
I actually didn't do seed hunting for this one :p. I took it from the wr mine a chunk category at the moment. It is really difficult to seedfind for it because you need a really deep and exact ravine apart from the usual structures and spawn coordinates.
Yes, here the official account
www.tiktok.com/@techenes?_t=8fEGZKdGwKL&_r=1
198 likes and 0 replies? lemme fix that
@@redcrewmate1813 Thanks bro 🫂
@@redcrewmate1813 please shut up nobody cares:)
Thumbs down because your surprise at the end is just more self promotion. Nothing of real interest for the viewer, just another way to make more views.
@@redcrewmate1813 nobody cares :)
I love how ridiculously big that cave is. Also the contrast between insta mining moss and mining redstone made me crack up everytime it switched xD
Yeaaah right? i was editing and saw all the camera flicker like crazy and then go kalmmm
agreed this is so funny
It’s almost like a montage 😂
At 0:57 in 0.25 speed we clearly see he extracted 29 bones from only 8 visible skeletons instead of the 15 MINIMUM with max drop from each, required to get that amount of bones.
More, at 0.57 we clearly see when the explosion happen, than at least 2 skeleton are still standing and still walking.
And then, a CLEAR CUT with way more bones and NO surviving skeletons (by magic probably)
And when asked for it the runner was extremely defensive and arrogant about it.
But the facts are there, he cheated, killed the last skelztons and added more bones to get 29 instead of the 12ish expected killing that amount of mobs,
and that's obvious.
Just admit it
Also, he only have, visible at 1:08, 8 arrows from that skeleton pack. For 29 bones.
Ridiculous to dare not saying he cheated.
mines 5 blocks per second with a hoe
*Pauses to mine redstone*
Goes back to destroying the chunk
just needed a quick break
5 blocks?
um. akshually you can break 20 blocks per second in minecraft 🤓
@@lool8421 so akhually
At 1:25, if anyone's wondering
I like how youtube compression is struggling because the tas is just looking around that fast
@@osparav bro. This might be the dumbest comment i have ever seen you have no clue what you're talking about lmao
how would that help youtube??
@@jamiewoodward9169 ?
@@jamiewoodward9169 Tom scott made a video on it, basically the compression works by only saying which pixels change, and there is so much change frame to frame that the compression just shits itself due to data constraints
RUclips compression always struggles
I was wondering how this TAS was so fast, I was like “I get they’re fast but mining a whole chunk in 3 minutes is impossible” but finding a chunk that’s 90% empty and converting every piece of stone to moss was genius.
Is actually deepslate
Slate is a type of stone
@@rayyapd2289 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
@@themrpancake👍
all these comments looking for splices and "cheating" while entirely ignoring that this run was made by two people taking turns doing segments. Of course it's spliced, the savegame literally moved PCs before being continued lol
Yeah, you know how hard it is to coordinate a TAS with someone that is 11 timezones away from you? That save has gone around the world like 4 times haha
It's a damn Tool assisted speedrun It's not like somebody was moving his mouse around that fast
@Josua7z go back to kindergarten please
From what I can see the only accusation that holds any water is impossible bone drops from the skeletons. In order to get the 29 bones from the skeletons there would've needed to be 15 skeletons minimum (skeletons drop between 0-2 bones). (And at that point in RNG manipulation I don't see why you don't just get 30) And they may not be on the screen for long but there does not appear to be enough to reach that threshold. RNG manipulation is a part of TASing as long as you remain within the bounds of the original game.
After going back and looking at it there appear to be 8 skeletons there (maybe 10 at most) not the 15 required
I would like to see this from the POV of a regular player following the TAS player around. Would look crazy
That is an interesting idea
@@TechnesYi think it would be super cool!!
@@spiritdox9774 yeap i totally agree, maybe i will do it in the future
You could do one of these with Replay mod right? Assuming there's no RNG you could get the same one twice to sort of have a verified one then a cinematic one? Or is hard to replicate a run?@@TechnesY
@@lazykb yeah now that i think about it, it is kinda hard to do. Maybe i will do it for a special, i know the tools but they will require a lot of tuning
This TAS guy seems like they'd be a pain to play with, can never just chill out
hello toaster
Why am I in a youtube comment section? I have to make toast, not comments.
@@matsurischlaagen1757 i know right, i wonder how i even got here
It took me a while to realize that he was actually mining the chunk and not just collecting moss
"Why do they need that much moss"
Me going to fight the ender dragon with nothing but 500 moss and 114 bone meal:
I love how it just paused to mine the redstone and went back to insane bonemeal placing 1:26
i always love your tases! this one is so impressive, mining all that moss with a diamond hoe is so satisfying here
That means a lot for me! Yeah glad you enjoyed that part, i thought it was so boring that i almost changed of category :P
@@TechnesYi imagine it would be since you are probably on something like 1 tick per second
Me at the start of the new smp : ok guys i got us some wooden pickaxes
That one guy:
Bro that mid air TNT place on the cave roof that landed perfectly on the three skeletons was awesome
the second part is mine!
hoe montage hell yeah
Haha get it cuz the second part is mining
@@marblecat779 true
:o so cool!!
*insane acts of terrorism*
"Oh,redstone :D"
*animalic chunk destroying*
The fact that you can’t even see the diamond tools being crafted at 0.25x speed is crazy
That was amazing and crazy to watch. Nice work!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love when hes mining ridicously fast the moss and suddenly takes a little break to mine the redstone
I always love how absurdly optimized tool assisted speedruns are
Tremendo TAS, gran trabajo a ti y a AlPie, me alegro de que ambos hayan colaborado en este proyecto
Gracias maestro
I like a lot the silksong OST it's a really fun game
It will be a very fun game ofc
Bait used to be believeable
Many theories said that the game will be playable on the last frame of the universe
-I
I was shocked whrn I heard Lace start playing
*Intensive Chinese gardening labor*
redstone go click click
*Intensive Chinese gardening labor continues*
And the one doing that part was actually Chinese 😭
See you all in 7 years when a random runner named Luigisasscrack100 beats this by 12 seconds👍
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@@theny54guy you're slow?
@@pryt0n180 that comment was 4 months ago
Right off the bat, I gotta say, love your choice of music, Lace is a great taste of Silksong's soundtrack! Hope it comes out finally lol
Cool speedrun btw, the redstone pauses got me haha
I was wondering what was going on with the moss until I realized that it was being dug in a chunk-shaped square... then I was wondering why it was being done underground. Then it zoomed out at the end and I marveled at the utter genius of this TAS.
it was lit up from the sky already tho
@@ss3nm0dn4r8 I didn't notice that until the end. Oops
so why did he do that?
@@mrosskne my educated guess is that the only requirement for a mining-chunk speedrun is that you have nothing but air from bedrock to sky limit. start with mostly air, then you don't need to mine as much
@@BreezyInterwebs what does that have to do with moss?
I love this, is so satisfying to see, good work!!
ABSOLUTE DESTRUCTION
Redstone tap
DESTRUCTION
This is insane! thank you for posting it.
Thank you for liking it!
1:24 I love the contrast between the redstone and the deepslate mining speeds
the way the camera is moving so rapidly during the moss mining part makes it look like a timelapse
damn that seed is crazy
What my friends do to my base when i log off for 3 nanoseconds
How the fuck did I not know bone mealing deepslate transforms it into moss blocks 💀
Neither did i haha
the pauses for redstone are so fucking funny
Well now we just need to repeat every input of that TAS... shouldn't be thaaat hard.......
Bro did some off-camera mining
The type of opponent I get everytime I decide to play server games in a peaceful weekend:
Me too. Why are tryhards everywhere?
0:26 What's that weird stutter in the video?
There was a similar one when it switched from technes' part to pie's but I don't see why it'd happen randomly at the temple
Yeahh i am sorry it is just bad editing the clips together and using different settings. Now i look it again and yeah it is super weird :p
0:09 LETS GO
I'd love to see that from an outer perspective, it would be fun to watch 😅
The music goes so hard it makes it seem like the fate of the entire world depends on this
@@GeneralKenobi69420 lmao
I don't know, if this was analyzed or not, but if the mossification pattern is random, maybe it's technically possible to have every conversion cover the maximum area of blocks, and never produce additional vegitation, which would be significantly faster. I guess it also would be hard to code in.
Yeah overall i think we can improve this specially if i go in with 0.5 tps and do a really dedicated run and with your improvements and other stuff, but that's maximum 20 seconds shorter. It is faster to just find a better seed haha, more tnt and less blocks to mine will make this a sub 2 TAS
This is all i ever wanted to see in a tas, satisfaction...
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@TechnesYte salio piola bro
@@seekmedicalhelp gracias maestro, hace banda que no recibo un comentario en español, me salvaste
very nice :D
0:50 how did 2 more tnt appear in your hotbar, is this dupeless?
he crafted them
@@AlPie1145the crafting menu appeared for 2 frames o_o so quick i didnt see it at first
@@chlortal lol he did everything fast
"Gotta grind mining this moss"
"Keep going"
"Oh hey! Some redstone!"
"KEEP MINING THAT MOSS"
the strat with the moss was insane
also is it possible to use tnt for the redstone ore or is it a bigger timesave to mine it manually? i could see tnt being used to destroy the redstone along with surrounding moss, the redstone ore seems to be the spot with the biggest shave potential
@@InvalidOS yeah i told AlPie there was a better way to use the tnt its just very difficult to prove its faster. If i could re do this TAS i would probably investigate the best use for it
@@TechnesY alright, the tas is still really cool though! don't want to diminish that over one tnt
@@InvalidOS nah yeah but we still dont even know if it saves time xd
the only minecraft channel I watch never fails to disappoint. thanks for the awesome video (as always)!
Thanks m8 you don’t know how much this type of comments mean to me :D
Yeah ofc (i am new to the newer versions of minecraft so i have the same problem) but there is now a block called moss that when you bonemeal it it turns other surrounding blocks into moss, which can be instamined. I hope this helps and thanks for the comment
when you bonemeal moss, stone blocks around it turn to moss
are you ok?
Silk Song music fits perfectly here
This is definitely one of the speedruns out there.
I’m curious; how did you manipulate the RNG of the moss to exclusively change blocks within your chunk? Or does it simply not effect “wall” blocks / blocks with another block on top?
I'm pretty sure they were bonemealing perfectly so that it wouldn't hit the outside edge, let's say that moss can grow up to 5 blocks away from origin, then all you have to do is place it at the 6th block from the border and you get the maximum blocks in the chunk for the bonemeal you're using.
Yeah it does not affect the wall blocks. Also one of the timesaves of this category (idk if i should call it timesave because it may only save like 3 seconds and there are other things that may save a minute) is to do a mod that does the perfect pattern/luck of bonemeal to decrease the amount of times you need to pause to place and bonemeal the moss.
Sorry for the late response!
Nah i thought that the amount of blocks that the bonemeal reached was fixed too, but it is rng dependant (like everything in this game haha). If it were fixed (which we can do with a mod) we could do that part a bit faster knowing the patterns and when to bonemeal :p
@@TechnesY Ah gotcha! I was thinking it was either rng manipulation or 1M save states to get ideal patterning haha. Thanks for the explanation :D
I love how fast everything is and then you have to mine the readstone
the chunk border would beg to differ
yeah, forgot to explain this but in the mine a chunk category mining a region of 16x16 is considered a chunk. It is used the same chunk in this tas and in the wr
Crazy how Lace fits perfectly to the length of this run
-that better have been a slime chunk so i can make a joke about my friend who builds a million different item farms every time we start a new SMP-
I didn't check. Oops😅
You should've added some Minecraft music for the parts when you casually mine redstone
I was not expecting endermen to be at the bottom of the temple there.
i honestly sort of expected going to the end bridging out to the void and then mining one block to empty the chunk
I can't decide between being scared or amazed
the legend has come back...
Local man on steroids jumps to a cave and makes a big block
We will be right back with more news after the following break. (Starts playing silksong music)
Nice splicing skills!
This is just insane
RUclips compression did *not* do this video any favors. Hella cool tho
Yeah, i need to seriously improve that 😅
When you play so much and you find something to finnaly do
great background music choice, really excited for silksong (im begging for a release date atp)
What's the song?
@@jougum9835 Christopher Larkin - Lace, it's a preview OST from Hollow Knight Silksong
wow! I never thought I’d hear music from the (sequel/prequel which may never come out) to my favourite game playing in my other favourite game
Lmaoooo yeah its gonna come out soon (🫠). Sad they monetized the only 2 songs that came out, i wont be able to use them again :p
Oh that boss fight against sir caterpillarissio was tough, I still have nightmares of him. But the music was such a banger, cool to see you use it here
Lmfao
These two are cookin 🔥🔥🔥
I didnt know moss turned deepslate into moss, I thought it was just dirt. That makes this stuff so mich easier!
Maybe I can dig out the rest of that map area down to bedrock a bit easier now
Yeah i am not going to lie that was kinda new to me when i started this TAS hahah i have been playing only 1.16 and below so a lot of the new stuff surprises me too
Question: is it not possible to get an efficiency gold pick from some structure to speed up like, redstone ore mining
Good question. In this case, it's not possible. You need to be playing in a version where the loot is randomized for you to get a specific tool from a structure. But in this case, a desert temple can't give you a gold pick (i dont think any structure can). It could have given me 3 gold ingots and made a piclaxe with the sticks from bushes, but i played this in 1.17 iirc which is not a randomized version
DUDE, LOOK AT THEM! LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE!
m³ and JKM: *crying in world eater*
I love that this was still actually played by hand because all the erratic movements make it look like it’s just a really cracked player
i want to see this from a third person perspective. see how much destruction is happening
bro just mocks everyone by stopping to break the fucking redstone, what a W
Friend: "Minecraft just gets so boring so fast!"
Also them:
why do you only need to mine to the top of the bedrock layer and not everything?
That’s just how it is
Because those are the rules of the real category on speedrun.com
I love how he just punched an enderman for no reason just bc he could
1:20 proceeds to go crazy
1:26 calmly mines the redstone
1:30 continues to go crazy
RUclips compression can't handle the S P E E D
lmao wtf is that generation
2:07 it looks like there are some blocks above tho that are in the chunk? or is that just an artifact of how it's TASed?
Ohh you mean the chunk grid? Yeah, that was not supposed to be there. The rules on speedrun.com stipulate that it must be a 16 by y by 16 area, and therefore, you can use whatever area that you want, it doesnt necessarily have to be in the grid.
I have no idea what happened there but that was crazy
this is amazing
Sudden silksong
@@vov1k769 sudden silk best silk
That has to be the emptiest chunk I've ever seen
Yeap finding seeds is really cool :p
bro lace in the background was poetic
crazy how it takes longer for tas to mine a chunk than to acquire a full netherite beacon
Yeah with glitched TASes you can do anything faster. Its definitely not my style
can’t get over how funny that skeleton group was
Nice music choice - would be neat if the game it’s from would actually release…
I have been waiting for eons 🫠
What is the song?
@@camila_lt its at the end of the video, lace (silksong)
@@TechnesY oops, thx
I love how bro just pauses at the ore
This is so cool
me: "bro i got stone tools":
what bro is up to:
redstone is the bane of this tases exist
Damn I slowed it down and still couldn’t see him crafting! That’s was nuttss
Then you also didn't notice the cut where suddenly 2 more skeletons are dead than one frame before and also dropped a few more bones than you would expect at 0:58 to 0:59
The pause of the redstone got me rolling
Was there a cut after falling into the m desert temple or was it just snappy movement
Yes there was a clear one after falling
violin is a very underrated instrument
All of hollow knight songs are awesome regardless of the instrument 😎
But yes, i do agree that violin is an extremely good instrument
@@TechnesY oh cool, i didn't recognize it as a hollow knight track
@ThylineTheGay yeah, it's actually silksong :p
We only have access to 2 of the next game's track and this one i chose was the most fitting
@@TechnesY ahh, I've been trying to limit what i see of the game to not spoil me for whenever it releases
@ThylineTheGay yeah, i tried not to listen to these 2 tracks too, because i didn't want to be spoiled but i ended up listening to them and one of them fit perfectly here, so i couldn't waste my chance :p
Sorry for the spoilers D:
This tas guy is so good how
so, in short, mine an entire chunk takes longer than finish the game on a TAS speedrun. Absolutely normal.
@@uzurka2527 5 times longer yeap
... Minecraft has changed so much that I have no idea what he is doing
same lmfaoooo
wonder how you did the seed hunting for this one
I actually didn't do seed hunting for this one :p.
I took it from the wr mine a chunk category at the moment. It is really difficult to seedfind for it because you need a really deep and exact ravine apart from the usual structures and spawn coordinates.
@@TechnesYi was gonna say, i saw the actual world record not too long ago and thought the ravine looked pretty similar