Very interesting. I loved reading Finn Aagaard stories about Africa and his take on such matters. I never went to Africa and I doubt that I ever will but it is fun to read about and listen to those who have.
DD, these are great honest PH conversations about their client’s DG rifle/caliber choices. My takeaway was that most of the African PH’s prefer to see 375’s and 416’s, with a few who were okay with clients using 458’s or greater, “if” the client could actually use the rifle and deal with the recoil. They made a point of saying a hunter should not only practice with his DG rifle a good amount but also get used to shooting off sticks! I saw a few PH’s using irons, one with a red dot, but most were using LPVO’s! DD, you outdid yourself on researching this collection of PH videos and interviews; I have seen most of these guys in hunting videos but you managed to find some interesting footage that’s certainly off the beaten path! Again, you set a new standard for yourself with this one! Thanks for sharing! Take care and be well!
I would suggest a .416 Remington. Why? Reliable power and a usually less expensive rifle if on a budget. If looking for something smaller I would suggest the 8mm.
Excellent presentation as always from you Desert Dog. I never used to even think about hunting Africa but through your channel I do find it more and more interesting.
Hello, my African/Alaskan rifle is actually a pair. I have two Remington 700 Lss one in .300 rum the other in .375 rum. I hade a custom case made for the pair they both have NOS leupold 4-12 ×50 silver scopes(impossible to find) the .300 rum has been hunted with a successful elk hunt the .375 is NOS. Both rifles wear brakes and weigh about 10# fully dressed. If I could only have one rifle in one chambering it would be a .375 ruger in one of the ruger rifle designs. I have a .300 rcm in the Ruger Guide Gun and it is awsome. Thanks for the videos!!!
@Paul-k5l1k They can deal with it. If I am using the Rums they will be braked. I do have other options besides the Rum but to be honest electronic hearing protection works well and can be worn the entire hunt.
Silaspierre for you : The 9.3x62 Mauser was built by German gunmaker Otto Bock.This calibre was spesifically designed by Bock for the German farmers and big game hunters in German East Africa. If you have this gun you do not need anything else
You're probably right about the nod to the .375 H&H. Of course, the 9.3x62 has less felt recoil. ** Obviously, I'm not alone in my admiration for 9.3x62. I'm sure European clients would lean more towards the "9"
@@martinstiastny7679 Once again, this is just speculation, but I've encountered several German hunters in Africa. They had either 470NE doubles or Blazers with 416RM barrels.
@@martinstiastny7679j utilise le 9.3x62 pour chasser en battue cerf sanglier.. paraîtrait qu il y a plus de pénétration sur un buffle avec un 9.3 qu avec un 375hh c est un guide de chasse qui le disait
Thank you once again for giving us the real deal perspective. Though I'm new to hunting big game, an African safari is on the wishlist and I definitely wouldn't want to go there and make a fool of myself. This video helps!
I have watched a number of those clips that you showed DD. The professional hunters are so very understated but definitive. One of Kevin Rebertsons statements if I remember correctly was that one of the PH students on a course used a Ruger No1 in .416 REM Mag and on a qualification shoot scored the highest the instructor team had seen. Know your rifle, is a must. Great video. Whilst I will probably never shoot in Africa I own a Ruger No1 in .416 and regularly shoot other No1’s for deer. 🇬🇧
I'm not going to Africa, in fact, I don't want to leave Alaska anymore. I got the big bore fever a few years ago and started collecting model 70 Winchesters like 375 H&H, 458 Win Mag and 416 Rem. Recently purchased a Rizzini double in 470 NE. I shoot the 375 off the bench but shoot the heavier recoiling rifles off sticks. I don't hunt big game anymore, so I guess these are my target rifles.
@@jasonmarquez5776 I have never shot a grizzly but I've lived in Alaska for 50 years and worked in a gun shop for 6. So, all I can give is my personal opinion. One of my friends has shot around 80 bears and this is what he told me. "The bigger the rifle, the longer they stay down on the ground (when hit). Many times they fall down, then get back up and start running. Keep shooting." Personally, I think the 375 H&H is a good caliber but some guys think it is the minimum caliber. Shoot good bullets like the Swift 300gr. I just ordered Swift 400 grainers for the 416. I mentioned having a 416 Rem. Another friend told me the recoil with this caliber was substantial. I'm glad I talked to him before sitting down at the bench. I was very much surprised when I touched one off. That's why I put it on sticks. I'm 71 and haven't shot much lately. You've got to work into these heavy calibers. If I had a run in with Griz, I'd rather have a rifle that I can handle like the 375 H&H. When they start swinging their head back and forth, jumping up and down and woofing, you'll be glad you had that rifle. I'm glad you didn't ask me about shotguns and slugs. No, no, no! Good luck to you, you made the right choice.
Hey DD, for those looking to go on their first African safari, could you maybe do videos in a series of what to expect, tips and tricks you have learned, price variation in countries, anything else that may be helpful. I know you have a couple of them already posted. Just thinking that maybe you could expand more on the topics and what is to be expected to make a trip go smoothly and it be enjoyable. Also, would like a video to hear your thoughts on the 9.3x62 or any 9.3 cartridges
I have 30-378 and 375rum. Waiting for 458lott for narwhals and beluga. I hunt in deep water and I don't want to lose them and I hunt along on the boat solo hunt. Rather have stronger calibers.
MRC made left handed crf actions. I’m assuming that the new be owners will hopefully be building them. They are a pre 64/98 type Used rifles can be hard to find by MRC in Lh but they are out there.
I am left handed it's easy to find that second trigger. My first deer was taken with a double barrel with both barrels. I don't think I have ever shot anything since with a kick like that.
458 Win is definitely adequate for all DG. The problem is that the 416s deliver more energy, with better ballistics and less recoil.than the 458 Win Mag. The 458 cartridges don't show an improvement over the 416s until you get to the 458 Lott.
Truth be told, the majority of PHs carry a 458 Win. The ammo is available and they can afford the rifles. In a perfect world, that world is only in the "after life", is it their dream caliber? No. The reality is that PHs do not walk through the bush with $100 bills falling out of their pockets. Add to that they mostly live in countries where guns and ammo are very restricted and in very short supply. Then add in the cost of living (housing, fuel, food, schooling for children, divorce [PHing is hard on a marriage], vehicle, etc.) few will have their dream rifle. The 458 checks many of the boxes. Most will not recommend it to a visiting client, for many reasons. Most clients don't shoot enough with a heavy rifle, nobody shoots as well with open sites as they do with a scope, most don't carry a heavy rifle on a long trek without getting tired (it's hard to shoot accurately with tired arms, legs, back). A PH wants that first shot to be accurate and killing. When things get bad the PH really doesn't want the client around. Nobody wants to be shot in the back by a panicked client. It's bad for the longevity of the career. But the 458 is still good at stopping a charge. The absolute best way to stop a charge is to never let it get started. Make that first shot count.
@@marcuspiera I think a lot of that bad name came from the Winchester M70 "four-five-eight" rifles being very inexpensive, relatively speaking, that African game departments bought a lot of them and so bought ammo by the pallet and stored it in a hot, humid warehouse.
Valuble coversation around the guns. And so was the video , why you dont hunt lions whith archery tackle. Was the shot taking out top shoulders intended to be lower? Question is about lead ??
Interesting to listen to Doc Kevin Robinson when the client had a "finger nail/claw extractor " fail on her when attempting to reload on a cow elephant hunt i personally believe this malfunction is coursed by the practice of placing a cartridge in the chamber then sliding the bolt forward and pushing the extractor over the rim which may damage it rather than picking the cartridge up from the magazine and sliding the extractor over the rim which it is designed to do all because one wants that extra cartridge my thoughts
That’s not a factor. In fact the extractor design is intended to be pushed over the cartridge rim. The real problem with those tiny extractors is that the extractors are not strong enough to withstand the forces on big bore rifles. If what you are saying was true, everyone shooting Remington 700’s in all calibers would experience extractor failures. If you try to find a new Remington 700 in a big bore caliber, you will not find one or it will have an M16 style extractor.
The extractor and design is the weak point. It won't live through continued use with powerful cartridges. Even though Remington released the 416 Rem Mag as "their" dangerous game cartridge; Remington had to quickly stop chambering the M700 in it because of broken extractor issues. Winchester adopted the 416 Rem and the rest is history.
I’m curious how many Mauser extractors broke during the great wars considering they had a magazine shut off to load single rounds and do just as you said, I’m not aware of a mass amount of them breaking due to loading baby hand and closing extractor over the case.
For reading : A Hunter's Wanderings in Africa by Frederick Courteney Selous a Rhodesian big gamenhunter. Interestingis his observation that the flesh of a lion is rather delicious
Dakota Arms, but they went out of business when Remington started having problems about two years ago. They are now known as Parkwest Arms. These are very high end rifles. Lots of used Dakotas on the market.
@@slimymurican8246 Thank you for the comment. I don't believe fierce rifles are control round feed at all with me looking at the images. I could be wrong.
Kevin Robertson is a wealth of knowledge and a Gentleman , as is Peter Wood .
Both are Outstanding .
Yep, that Peter wood interview is one of my favorites.
We will miss doc Robertson . The inputs he gave to the Ph community made him a legend . He also started the best Ph school in Africa .
Very interesting. I loved reading Finn Aagaard stories about Africa and his take on such matters. I never went to Africa and I doubt that I ever will but it is fun to read about and listen to those who have.
Finn🙌
DD, these are great honest PH conversations about their client’s DG rifle/caliber choices.
My takeaway was that most of the African PH’s prefer to see 375’s and 416’s, with a few who were okay with clients using 458’s or greater, “if” the client could actually use the rifle and deal with the recoil. They made a point of saying a hunter should not only practice with his DG rifle a good amount but also get used to shooting off sticks!
I saw a few PH’s using irons, one with a red dot, but most were using LPVO’s!
DD, you outdid yourself on researching this collection of PH videos and interviews; I have seen most of these guys in hunting videos but you managed to find some interesting footage that’s certainly off the beaten path!
Again, you set a new standard for yourself with this one! Thanks for sharing!
Take care and be well!
I would suggest a .416 Remington. Why? Reliable power and a usually less expensive rifle if on a budget. If looking for something smaller I would suggest the 8mm.
I love your channel you are a factual and informative guy.
Truthful, well-researched, and to-the-point...
This video is the exact opposite of American news! 😂
Excellent presentation as always from you Desert Dog. I never used to even think about hunting Africa but through your channel I do find it more and more interesting.
I've seen a few of these videos before. Sage advice and thanks for sharing!
Hello, my African/Alaskan rifle is actually a pair. I have two Remington 700 Lss one in .300 rum the other in .375 rum. I hade a custom case made for the pair they both have NOS leupold 4-12 ×50 silver scopes(impossible to find) the .300 rum has been hunted with a successful elk hunt the .375 is NOS. Both rifles wear brakes and weigh about 10# fully dressed. If I could only have one rifle in one chambering it would be a .375 ruger in one of the ruger rifle designs. I have a .300 rcm in the Ruger Guide Gun and it is awsome. Thanks for the videos!!!
For the sake of the crew accompanying you during your African hunt, lose the muzzle brakes. Your PH will thank you.
@Paul-k5l1k They can deal with it. If I am using the Rums they will be braked. I do have other options besides the Rum but to be honest electronic hearing protection works well and can be worn the entire hunt.
Love the Tractor Supply Company hat!
Silaspierre for you : The 9.3x62 Mauser was built by German gunmaker Otto Bock.This calibre was spesifically designed by Bock for the German farmers and big game hunters in German East Africa. If you have this gun you do not need anything else
@@alwynburger23 It would seem as though modern professional hunters in Africa don't agree.
I second the war club video, I'm really interested in them
not a single mention of the 9.3x62 mm , ive only heard Dr Kevin Robertson mention it
Just speculating, but PHs probably like clients to take advantage of the bump in energy that the 375 H&H provides.
Very interesting. Like to see full interview of the examples you showed
Kind regards and merry Xmas to you and your family
New Brunswick Canada 🇨🇦
You're probably right about the nod to the .375 H&H. Of course, the 9.3x62 has less felt recoil. ** Obviously, I'm not alone in my admiration for 9.3x62.
I'm sure European clients would lean more towards the "9"
@@martinstiastny7679 Once again, this is just speculation, but I've encountered several German hunters in Africa. They had either 470NE doubles or Blazers with 416RM barrels.
@@martinstiastny7679j utilise le 9.3x62 pour chasser en battue cerf sanglier.. paraîtrait qu il y a plus de pénétration sur un buffle avec un 9.3 qu avec un 375hh c est un guide de chasse qui le disait
Really liked this one. Its interesting to learn about hunting in areas that I'll never hunt in.
That was a great video DD. Some hunting luminaries on there. Those boys that were talking have put a lot of big mean animals in the salt
Looking forward to watching this in my Barbershop! Also, love the war clubs, maybe you can do a video on those 🧐😁
As allways: Thank you very much for the great content!
Good one DD. Great advice to also apply here Down Under with Asian Water Buffalo & Banteng.
Thank you once again for giving us the real deal perspective. Though I'm new to hunting big game, an African safari is on the wishlist and I definitely wouldn't want to go there and make a fool of myself. This video helps!
I have watched a number of those clips that you showed DD. The professional hunters are so very understated but definitive. One of Kevin Rebertsons statements if I remember correctly was that one of the PH students on a course used a Ruger No1 in .416 REM Mag and on a qualification shoot scored the highest the instructor team had seen. Know your rifle, is a must. Great video. Whilst I will probably never shoot in Africa I own a Ruger No1 in .416 and regularly shoot other No1’s for deer. 🇬🇧
I wonder how many Rem 700's changed to Sako style extractors with that long standing problem.
"It takes a lot of practice." Col. Boddington nails it. I would take my 416 if I ever get to go.
African plains game, from Impala to Eland, the forgotten 8mm Remington Magnum. Used this caliber from 1995 - 2019.
Seeing that buffalo skull on your table helped me appreciate just how big they really are!
I'm not going to Africa, in fact, I don't want to leave Alaska anymore. I got the big bore fever a few years ago and started collecting model 70 Winchesters like 375 H&H, 458 Win Mag and 416 Rem. Recently purchased a Rizzini double in 470 NE. I shoot the 375 off the bench but shoot the heavier recoiling rifles off sticks. I don't hunt big game anymore, so I guess these are my target rifles.
I'm looking at a 375 H&H for grizzly bear protection in British Columbia. Do you have any input from Alaska? Cheers from Canada. 🇨🇦
@@jasonmarquez5776 I have never shot a grizzly but I've lived in Alaska for 50 years and worked in a gun shop for 6. So, all I can give is my personal opinion. One of my friends has shot around 80 bears and this is what he told me. "The bigger the rifle, the longer they stay down on the ground (when hit). Many times they fall down, then get back up and start running. Keep shooting." Personally, I think the 375 H&H is a good caliber but some guys think it is the minimum caliber. Shoot good bullets like the Swift 300gr. I just ordered Swift 400 grainers for the 416.
I mentioned having a 416 Rem. Another friend told me the recoil with this caliber was substantial. I'm glad I talked to him before sitting down at the bench. I was very much surprised when I touched one off. That's why I put it on sticks. I'm 71 and haven't shot much lately. You've got to work into these heavy calibers. If I had a run in with Griz, I'd rather have a rifle that I can handle like the 375 H&H. When they start swinging their head back and forth, jumping up and down and woofing, you'll be glad you had that rifle. I'm glad you didn't ask me about shotguns and slugs. No, no, no! Good luck to you, you made the right choice.
Hey DD, for those looking to go on their first African safari, could you maybe do videos in a series of what to expect, tips and tricks you have learned, price variation in countries, anything else that may be helpful. I know you have a couple of them already posted. Just thinking that maybe you could expand more on the topics and what is to be expected to make a trip go smoothly and it be enjoyable.
Also, would like a video to hear your thoughts on the 9.3x62 or any 9.3 cartridges
Nobody here speaks about 404Jefferey..but is much better than 375H&H and very close to 416.. lower recoil, so much easier to shoot under stress
please do a video on the 404 Jeffery!
I second your request
How about more advice on what to bring for hunting plain? The only mention was for a 300 magnum
@@Idahoguy10157 Email some PHs and ask.
Not really interested in an Africa hunt. But willing to listen and leave a comment.
Love the show keep it up...
This was excellent!
I have 30-378 and 375rum. Waiting for 458lott for narwhals and beluga. I hunt in deep water and I don't want to lose them and I hunt along on the boat solo hunt. Rather have stronger calibers.
Exellent Video as Always
I'm an old dinosaur! I like the old 458 Win. Mag.
If the stock fits the shooter properly, the recoil is very tolerable.
Great video
Thanks for compiling this.
Belle video! De belles armes pour l Afrique : jean Paul Ridon
Merci
Peter Hathaway Capstick is a good African hunter writer.
Bullshit. He shot most of his Elephant at the bar. Stood on the shoulders of giants.
MRC made left handed crf actions. I’m assuming that the new be owners will hopefully be building them. They are a pre 64/98 type Used rifles can be hard to find by MRC in Lh but they are out there.
You should talk about the iconic browning bar rifle in your videos the hunting version
I am left handed it's easy to find that second trigger. My first deer was taken with a double barrel with both barrels. I don't think I have ever shot anything since with a kick like that.
What about the Parker hale 300 win. mag .ya he just said he loves 300 win.mag.
Heard that. Probably payed attn bc I have one. Favorites work like that, what you have. I'm very broad minded.
North fork tech, cup point bullets
When in doubt ask your PH what he suggests. More importantly practice, practice offhand, practice off shooting sticks, practice.
458 win seems to still be out of favor. Very adequate for dangerous game
458 Win is definitely adequate for all DG. The problem is that the 416s deliver more energy, with better ballistics and less recoil.than the 458 Win Mag. The 458 cartridges don't show an improvement over the 416s until you get to the 458 Lott.
The win mag got a very bad name that it will probably never really get rid of. Saying that they do well with modern powders and 400-450gr bullets.
Truth be told, the majority of PHs carry a 458 Win. The ammo is available and they can afford the rifles. In a perfect world, that world is only in the "after life", is it their dream caliber? No. The reality is that PHs do not walk through the bush with $100 bills falling out of their pockets. Add to that they mostly live in countries where guns and ammo are very restricted and in very short supply. Then add in the cost of living (housing, fuel, food, schooling for children, divorce [PHing is hard on a marriage], vehicle, etc.) few will have their dream rifle. The 458 checks many of the boxes. Most will not recommend it to a visiting client, for many reasons. Most clients don't shoot enough with a heavy rifle, nobody shoots as well with open sites as they do with a scope, most don't carry a heavy rifle on a long trek without getting tired (it's hard to shoot accurately with tired arms, legs, back). A PH wants that first shot to be accurate and killing. When things get bad the PH really doesn't want the client around. Nobody wants to be shot in the back by a panicked client. It's bad for the longevity of the career. But the 458 is still good at stopping a charge. The absolute best way to stop a charge is to never let it get started. Make that first shot count.
@@marcuspiera I think a lot of that bad name came from the Winchester M70 "four-five-eight" rifles being very inexpensive, relatively speaking, that African game departments bought a lot of them and so bought ammo by the pallet and stored it in a hot, humid warehouse.
Valuble coversation around the guns. And so was the video , why you dont hunt lions whith archery tackle. Was the shot taking out top shoulders intended to be lower? Question is about lead ??
Both the 375 H&H and 416 Rigby came out in 1912... The British sorted this debate 112 years ago...
Interesting to listen to Doc Kevin Robinson when the client had a "finger nail/claw extractor " fail on her when attempting to reload on a cow elephant hunt i personally believe this malfunction is coursed by the practice of placing a cartridge in the chamber then sliding the bolt forward and pushing the extractor over the rim which may damage it rather than picking the cartridge up from the magazine and sliding the extractor over the rim which it is designed to do all because one wants that extra cartridge my thoughts
That’s not a factor. In fact the extractor design is intended to be pushed over the cartridge rim.
The real problem with those tiny extractors is that the extractors are not strong enough to withstand the forces on big bore rifles.
If what you are saying was true, everyone shooting Remington 700’s in all calibers would experience extractor failures. If you try to find a new Remington 700 in a big bore caliber, you will not find one or it will have an M16 style extractor.
The extractor and design is the weak point. It won't live through continued use with powerful cartridges. Even though Remington released the 416 Rem Mag as "their" dangerous game cartridge; Remington had to quickly stop chambering the M700 in it because of broken extractor issues. Winchester adopted the 416 Rem and the rest is history.
I’m curious how many Mauser extractors broke during the great wars considering they had a magazine shut off to load single rounds and do just as you said, I’m not aware of a mass amount of them breaking due to loading baby hand and closing extractor over the case.
For reading : A Hunter's Wanderings in Africa by Frederick Courteney Selous a Rhodesian big gamenhunter. Interestingis his observation that the flesh of a lion is rather delicious
In Zimbabwe and Zambia, lion meat is always consumed by the locals after a kill.
My choice for Africa from small to big.
- 7x57
- 8x57 IS
- 9,3x62
- 10,75x68
- 11,2x72
- 12,7x70
.577NE , .450NE, .375 H&H, .303 British
Seeing this and Trump at Notre Dame, made my day. Thank you!
Nice topic!
Please if you don't mind me asking.
Is there any company besides Ruger with its Ruger m77 that makes a left hand control round feed?
Look for a Montana 1999 rifle or action. Or contact the new owners and see if they plan to make them
I think the Fierce firearms CT rogue has a left hand model and uses a controlled round feed
Dakota Arms, but they went out of business when Remington started having problems about two years ago. They are now known as Parkwest Arms. These are very high end rifles. Lots of used Dakotas on the market.
@@slimymurican8246 Thank you for the comment.
I don't believe fierce rifles are control round feed at all with me looking at the images.
I could be wrong.
Zastava makes left-handed versions of Mauser 98. And they also come in some african game chamberings.
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416 rem offhand loading single shot out to 100 yards with red dot?
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