I love when commentators either try to be funny or be extra hype. Shows that while all commentators are trying, there are some who try even more, and those ones deserve all of my respect.
King dedede is my main. Only character I've been able to get into elite. Watching this has taught me a lot about how to play a better dedede! Don't see him often in tourneys
There are a few kill set ups. Falling nair into bair from 50-80% and falling nair into upair above 80%. DI-able option is down throw into upair at 70-110%. Ledge kills are most common, just input a uptilt c stick gordo near ledge and charge down B, dash attack or smash attack. Or, you jump off stage, place a gordo on the ledge and force enemy around it or into it for a free spike. Other than those options I'd say falling nair on shield into uptilt can kill high percentage opponents, or a falling gordo into upsmash or d smash for example.
@@marksaenz3836 Well yeah I see Dedede as a punisher. To play Dedede well, you have to understand your opponent really well, otherwise you'll just get rekt. If you know when to punish with Dedede, that makes you a good Dedede. Gordo true combos into literally any move Dedede has, and nair + bair or uair is also true, so if you make use of that it can be made viable.
The end of game 1 changed the whole complexion of the set. I feel like we would’ve seen a barn burner had atomsk been up 1-0 but instead we see a quick 3-0 and a handshake
Atomsk had a couple jumps to play with, he had the right idea of upB to pass ledge to land on top of bowser while he was doing flame breath, but atomsk spaced it wrong, he was too close to ledge and got 40% because of it.
Ikr, some of Dedede's attacks feel super weak for a heavy. I know his Forward Air can combo at early percents, but its kill power is really lacking and it doesn't spike. I feel like even his Back Air isn't nearly as powerful as it should be for a slow move with a good bit of end lang. Up Air and Down Air I don't have much gripes with, but another move of I feel like is too weak is his Up Smash. I feel like it should be Ganondorf Up Smash levels of power.
Hitting an opponent into Gordo should NOT decrease knockback. The game should be able to gauge the knockback of the original move vs after hitting the gordo, and go with whichever one launches the most.
Koopa and Lyricofwisdom Two of the goats; Koopa been getting hella opportunities with collision and HO3K and Lyric does a lot with No Pause Tournaments and she does Codename: Bairs some Fridays. Lyric actually was also an event coordinator for Cross Up and helped plan most of it
This match up is fairly even, believe it or not. Not all match ups are a matter of whos a better character in general, a lot are what can each character do to counter the other's strategies. Dedede's gordo works beautifully against Bowser, and he can edge guard and ledge trap him well. In neutral, Dedede has a bit more range and a disjoint, but less kill power and combo potential than Bowser. Bowser has a slight edge in this purely because he has more kill power and can edge guard dedede with his broken two frame options and ledge option punishes. So Dedede suffers heavily there.
bowser just has too many move priorities on DDD just like in smash 4. They haven't changed much. The flamethrower buff on bowser is ridiculous, totally balanced by Sakurai genius. gitgud
Wow, Atomsk did absolutely terrible here. He could have gotten at LEAST 2 kills off of Bowser's command grab by simply leading him off the edge. He also just went straight into the fire multiple times when he clearly had better options. I've seen Atomsk work wonders with Dedede, but this match should have been an easy win for him considering how many things Dedede has to abuse Bowser.
He played well, I just think he got so demotivated by the very close first match that it kind of cost him the set. But I do think that He also could’ve tried to use more variety in his moves like forward tilt more, throw in a few jabs, and maybe even tried to get a down b off Leon. But we can’t harp over this match too much
I wonder if they were at a big round table as they were making bowser and said hmmm how can we make bowser as corny as possible? And they just wrote down all the corniest ideas they can think of
Atomsskay All name jokes aside, as a Bowser player, I've always despised this matchup. Leon played it incredibly well and used Fire Breath in a way I did not know was possible against Dedede's Up B armor.
3:45 Yes and neither are we, because we play the game. It’s like these commentators are just looking at a terminology page the whole time. How are you commentating and surprised by that interaction??
And they should really nerf that bowser ftilt, its a 2 frame tool that lasts for 5 frames making it effectively a 6 frames window where you can't grab ledge or you die
It makes me feel better about myself to see that even professional players will occasionally SD by misinputting an up-B as a side-B.
Bowser wants to mash special to change the elevation of up b, so buffering Side b happens occasionally if you’re not careful.
My apologies i see the SD you’re talking about now
In a Grand Final
@@patrickburton1401 it’s so annoying
You'll find this is much more common than you realize the more you watch tourneys.
3:54 anime betrayal
"He's gonna save him. That was so ni..." BONK*
Game 1 gordo betrayal was defiantly a reality check, unfortunately.
It reminds me of when Tweek was saved with the bike after wizzy up smashed him at glitch 8
"Looooong liiiive the kiiiing"
definitely
Ya I was pissed when I saw that
To me, this was a 2v1, not a 3v0
This is the best commentary I have heard in YEARS. You guys are hilarious lol!
I love when commentators either try to be funny or be extra hype. Shows that while all commentators are trying, there are some who try even more, and those ones deserve all of my respect.
huuuuuh these commentators seem to be more focused on their own personal experiences then reacting to the actual game
This is professional ass Commentary. Well done yall
i didnt know seth rogen played smash
King dedede is my main. Only character I've been able to get into elite. Watching this has taught me a lot about how to play a better dedede! Don't see him often in tourneys
He lost
@@ItchyBurritoMiniAltThingy So.
@@PARRAS4UR So he lost
@@ItchyBurritoMiniAltThingy have you ever heard about "learn from your mistakes"?
@@Nmoment-uv6jc What about death
Seeing 2 pro heavy mains vs each other is one of the coolest things ever
2:31 lol I love when i hear commentators trip over themselves not to call it the "succ and cucc"
atomsk was robbed game one, threw the second one in response
"Can't rob me if I rob myself!"
He was not robbed the gordo just screwed him over cause he put it in a pad position.
@@voodooedits785 that was as good as robbery
A+ COMMENTARY, LITERALLY LOVE IT 😂
I think DDD could use some more kill set ups.. he’s super linear.
There are a few kill set ups. Falling nair into bair from 50-80% and falling nair into upair above 80%. DI-able option is down throw into upair at 70-110%.
Ledge kills are most common, just input a uptilt c stick gordo near ledge and charge down B, dash attack or smash attack. Or, you jump off stage, place a gordo on the ledge and force enemy around it or into it for a free spike. Other than those options I'd say falling nair on shield into uptilt can kill high percentage opponents, or a falling gordo into upsmash or d smash for example.
He has quite a few. Just harder to do at top level.
@@johantitulaer1052 some of those he actually did but a lot of them aren’t practical at high level play. He needs confirms.
@@marksaenz3836 Well yeah I see Dedede as a punisher. To play Dedede well, you have to understand your opponent really well, otherwise you'll just get rekt. If you know when to punish with Dedede, that makes you a good Dedede. Gordo true combos into literally any move Dedede has, and nair + bair or uair is also true, so if you make use of that it can be made viable.
I mean he doesn't have that many high knockback and damage moves like other heavies.
Oh my god that first match
The end of game 1 changed the whole complexion of the set. I feel like we would’ve seen a barn burner had atomsk been up 1-0 but instead we see a quick 3-0 and a handshake
100%
Like everyone else said, this might be some of the best commentating that I've heard in smash. Damn good job.
15 second into the first round and flame breath gives the free 40%
It's not free. Mythra's neutral is free. You have to find a good opening to hit with it
Atomsk had a couple jumps to play with, he had the right idea of upB to pass ledge to land on top of bowser while he was doing flame breath, but atomsk spaced it wrong, he was too close to ledge and got 40% because of it.
@@KaptainLopez exactly the start up is so long ! it's like timing a F smash
@@bigtoblerone8446 Mythra's neutral is NOT free
7:08 compare bowsers back air to ddd back air and you’ll see he is lacking in kill power compared to the other heavyweights
I feel your pain (Incineroar main)
Ikr, some of Dedede's attacks feel super weak for a heavy. I know his Forward Air can combo at early percents, but its kill power is really lacking and it doesn't spike. I feel like even his Back Air isn't nearly as powerful as it should be for a slow move with a good bit of end lang. Up Air and Down Air I don't have much gripes with, but another move of I feel like is too weak is his Up Smash. I feel like it should be Ganondorf Up Smash levels of power.
They also buffed Fair already but it's still weak...
It's weird how a character like wolf, with real mobility and a real projectile, has more kill power than ddd
Dair is pathetic, probably the worst dair in the entire game
I appreciate her use of the term Koopa. I don't hear that word used often these days.
Commentary so damn Godlike
I love those two
I miss the energy of in person tourneys sooooo much. So happy we back😎
Yeah, about damn time
Yeet smash, that Gordo anime betreyal gottta be on your clutch moments
I wasn't ready for the commentator to scream when ddd was getting burned. That shit gave me jokees😂
8:02 now that’s a Homer Simpson scream
Holy shit what an intense first game! I love heavy battles, man.
This set was great, first game was super close and the commentary was fantastic!
I love the commentators! Makes the game more exciting!!! ✨👏😁
*Do not get cheesed*
Hitting an opponent into Gordo should NOT decrease knockback. The game should be able to gauge the knockback of the original move vs after hitting the gordo, and go with whichever one launches the most.
Heavy ditos are so fun to watch 🤩
I love seeing big matchups
Fam that was intense bowser play ☀️🐲
Damn a D3 getting to Winner's Finals? Let's go
This is no ordinary DDD
Big missed opportunity for the tournament organizers to replace the Haikyuu volleyball with a Smash ball
Lyric is actually a decent commentator.
"He's gonna save him! That was so nice.. to just kill him."
Who are these commentators? I am not familiar with them
Koopa and Lyricofwisdom
Two of the goats; Koopa been getting hella opportunities with collision and HO3K and Lyric does a lot with No Pause Tournaments and she does Codename: Bairs some Fridays. Lyric actually was also an event coordinator for Cross Up and helped plan most of it
@@LairdUSA I can't find koopa's twitter could you link it?
when leon has two games already and the video has thirty seconds left: "I wonder who will win..."
This was upload 3 weeks ago but, this was pre pandemic, right?
Just pause the video at 4:02, 🤩 wow
The two kings going at it lol
Video ends at 5:27.
OMFG!!! THE FIRST ROUND WAS FUCKING MARVELLOUS!! What a match!!!👏👏👏
Edit: Followed by a breakdown??! Dayum GG!
2:07
Yeah!
It’s the heavy-tax
Although i was rooting for Leon the whole time, that sd hurt to watch
Good bowser, obviously... I just can’t respect bowser.. side b spam (needs a nerf) and up b spam.. toddler character
@@lordsozehcp5362 up b spam?? Just block it, it's got shocking recovery frames lol
@@lordsozehcp5362 Bowser Side-B is one of the least spammable moves in the game.
These commentators are really good!
Incredible match! 3:57 was intense!
Atomsk should've use his Gibson eb0 1961 model.
That first set was hype af
When the commentators say "Atomsk", take a shot. You'll die of alcohol poisoning by the end of game 1
Welp. This is a bad heavy vs a good heavy. What else was gonna happen?
...which one is which?
They're both bad
This match up is fairly even, believe it or not. Not all match ups are a matter of whos a better character in general, a lot are what can each character do to counter the other's strategies. Dedede's gordo works beautifully against Bowser, and he can edge guard and ledge trap him well. In neutral, Dedede has a bit more range and a disjoint, but less kill power and combo potential than Bowser. Bowser has a slight edge in this purely because he has more kill power and can edge guard dedede with his broken two frame options and ledge option punishes. So Dedede suffers heavily there.
@@miscellaneous673 ^ it’s even. Bowser main since smash 4. Gordo is pretty good in this MU. Side b won’t kill Dedede until late late.
@@patrickburton1401 Glad we can agree, because I'm a Dedede main haha I'd say its slightly in Bowsers favor, like Dedede 45 and Bowser 55
5:02 abolish The pink haired announcer
Love seeing heavy vs heavy!
Why is atomsk pronounced adamus
Atom S K
Pronounce that quickly enough, it may sound roughly like Adamus
THAT FIRST MATCH WAS FUCKING CRAZY
The dude screaming had me fucked up bro 😂😂😂😂😂😂
How does this happen
We all wanted a game 5 with these two. SAD
Leon has places to go and can't allow that so we shouldn't be sad.
Great commentary
bowser just has too many move priorities on DDD just like in smash 4. They haven't changed much. The flamethrower buff on bowser is ridiculous, totally balanced by Sakurai genius. gitgud
If you’re on with bowser he’s almost impossible to beat. It’s scary just three hits and you’re at kill percent. It can snowball so fast
omg that gordo betrayalwas sad as fuck
I wish she said "sometimes he just pulls things out of his ass."
The pronunciation on Atomsk >
I can’t count how many times the gordo has betrayed me 😔
Live by the gordo, die by the gordo
Leon did a horrible job off the ledge. The off ledge forward air works wonders on that downward Gordo.
04:48 - 04:51
idk i thought that interaction was kinda hilarious lol
Hahaha dedede airdodged away from a down air after whiffing an up air. Hahaha much hilarious bro lol
That's what king dedede gets for spamming the ball in the first round at the end. That will be his downfall.
Why the haikyuu theme tho🤔
And seeing more Dededee represention makes me happy😄
WOW that gordo. The ultimate betrayal
Wow, Atomsk did absolutely terrible here. He could have gotten at LEAST 2 kills off of Bowser's command grab by simply leading him off the edge. He also just went straight into the fire multiple times when he clearly had better options. I've seen Atomsk work wonders with Dedede, but this match should have been an easy win for him considering how many things Dedede has to abuse Bowser.
He played well, I just think he got so demotivated by the very close first match that it kind of cost him the set.
But I do think that He also could’ve tried to use more variety in his moves like forward tilt more, throw in a few jabs, and maybe even tried to get a down b off Leon.
But we can’t harp over this match too much
That Gordo that saved bowser got in atoms head
This is what is fun. Not watching a bunch of stupid campers, projectile spammers and combo fishers
Wow, this is a lot of orange!
In this set and against Gen, Leon did a great job punishing 2 frames that didn't connect with drop --> jump --> side b
I wanna live in the world where that down smash killed
2:10 that was close
Idk who she is but the lady was great on commentary
I wonder if they were at a big round table as they were making bowser and said hmmm how can we make bowser as corny as possible? And they just wrote down all the corniest ideas they can think of
Atomsskay
All name jokes aside, as a Bowser player, I've always despised this matchup. Leon played it incredibly well and used Fire Breath in a way I did not know was possible against Dedede's Up B armor.
The lenght of the video is always a spoiler
LeoN! Clap clap clap LeoN! Yey!!
Leon vs Seth Rogen
the screenshake in this particular match is just way over the top
bad game if you cant turn that sh. off
Long live King Koopa, Bowser mains>>>everyone else
3:45 Yes and neither are we, because we play the game. It’s like these commentators are just looking at a terminology page the whole time. How are you commentating and surprised by that interaction??
1:30 LMAOO
The king is dead long live the king !
The worst heavy in ultimate vs the one of the best characters, this was predictable. I hope they buff gordos a bit
@@mr.dr.kaiser4912 One of the best boyo
That Gordo is more two faced than kissame's samaheda 🙄
There should ve a f2p version of Smash with only the heavyweights
crazy ass match
dude lookin straight like seth rogan xD
And they should really nerf that bowser ftilt, its a 2 frame tool that lasts for 5 frames making it effectively a 6 frames window where you can't grab ledge or you die
battle of the choncc
Please, just give DDD kill power, please!
That was entertaining.
Atomsk is my king
Side b
Gordo betraying DeDeDe was the most sadisfactorial thing I've ever seen
Said no one