@@ashead11 let’s all be honest here, we are here cuz Surf name is in the title... If it was (enter battle rapper) it would not have this many views this quickly
Jaz def riding surf wave n Math one them battlers that niggas who are more popular than him don’t wanna battle because they feel they superior , but at same time Hoffa can make em feel uncomfortable on a big stage n they don’t be wanting to stand in front of that I be thinking . And most people antics they wouldn’t pull on Math so they rather say he ain’t worthy anything to not battle em . And Surf respected , he considered a legend from longevity n still relevant but he gotta solidify himself with a major performance still .
I feel like friends that overrate you & gas you up are toxic. They feed your ego, which helps stunt it your growth. You need friends that keep it real.
If battle rap stopped today, Hitman, Surf, Tay Roc, K Shine, DNA etc. Will go down as legends who helped build URL and shape battle rap to be as big as it is today. They’re legends
@@thatsseauxnish_ Honestly, I think she was scared because Mz Fit was on her neck and Jaz ain’t never had nobody press her like that. Remember, Jaz not like that.
12:49 I'm glad Jaz brought this up. I have something to say... How many of Surf's million view battles include the most popular people in battle rap at the time? - Hitman was consistently having million view battles prior to surf. That's a cheat code. - Tayroc was the face of url, the people's champ (on url) and was having a lot of good battles on url while only battling on url in that era where "loyalty to one league" was really important to people - Teaming up with the fan favorite for a 2-on-2 against the premier 2-on-2 team in battlerap, who revitalized 2-on-2s and had been on national tv and everything - Geechi was Url rookie of the year and Champion of the year for the previous year and was becoming a fan favorite. Clearly, those views were largely off popularity of the names . Side note for anybody who read this: Take note of how calculated Surf's career has been and where he's gotten because of that. You should understand the logic behind his argument against calicoe when he said collaborations & networking are important for clout.
This is the dumbest argument ever. You can go down any of the top viewed battlers' resume and see that most of their views are from battling other top viewed battlers.
lemme switch that question up real quick who would u rather have a feature from Eminem/drake/jay z or MF DOOM/ Lauryn HIll/ Ghostface killah All of these niggas is legends ( to my eyes anyway) in the rap game but certain niggas have higher views than the others, does that mean thier better then them 😐 moral of the story is math aint a legend
@@jermainelester2598 watchu mean what sense? that math aint a legend. punching a nigga in his noging dont make you a legend in my eyes. it make you the nigga who got a lot of views for punching a nigga. them views didnt make battle rap fans or battle rappers. just like how i think surf brought views and we should commend him for that but his style aint make battlers, he didnt fuck up the game,
What Math doesn't get is you don't have to do anything groundbreaking to be a legend. A legend is simply a person that leaves an unforgettable impression on the people.
He woulda been the only one talking lol even videos wit Surf in the background he always talking I bet any amount of money Surf talks in his sleep lol dude never shuts tf up.
@@wavveyyvibez1675 first grow up and stop calling opinions you disagree with HATE. STOP THAT now, pls. Now I need to know what you are saying. Are you saying Surf is a Legend which I agree with but its debatable or Are you saying Surf is on the same level with LUX & VERB, which he isn't. What are you saying?
If Surf wasn’t already a legend he couldn’t get away with not having a 3rd for the last 5 years. Sounds fucked up but if he hadn’t already done legendary shit they wouldn’t still cheer🤷🏾♂️
@@staccg3501 I think he was saying we want to continue to see greatest from Surf & Clips cause their “slip ups/2 rounds” haven’t amounted to the legendary shit they did & we know their most def capable of 💯
@@ryanhamilton2241 or they are close? Like brother and sisters? Why does everything between a man and woman gotta be sexual ya niggas never had any female friends and it shows ya weird asf.
Of course surf is a legend who else has choked more epically than surf? Who has dropped the ball more at important times than surf? NO ONE! SURF IS THE CHOKING LEGEND!
She not only defending surf she’s defending url. That’s what you guys not seeing math said no to everyone not 35 basically.. My guy is Hitman holla and K shine not legends?we gotta think about it. It’s url hate.
@@backends550 unlike Surf, Trex was never a Choke Artist like Surf 1., Yes he Rex has declined over the years but he put in a lot of Pain to deserve his Legend Status. Unlike your boy Surf. 🤷🏾♂️
@@phenomfacemob1011 it's like surf always says.... battle rap is opinionated. Surf is actually my favorite to watch. But him coming with no 3rds and messing up battles is holding him back from being legendary
I feel like Math is thinking more of an “Icon” compared to “Legend”. If Surf would’ve beat Lux , he would have reached Icon status or at least gotten very close to it
I agree with you. Because as an "Icon" those chokes and "Jersey" and not having third rounds can hurt you. As an "Icon" you shouldn't want to aspire to be the next surf. As an "Icon" you shouldn't want to come across the biggest battle of your career against one of the Goats and choke and perform like that. But as a legend, to say you were able to impact the URL culture the way you did, put yourself in a position to take certain battles on certain stages, thats legend stuff
Math still looking mad salty he can’t get a battle lol at the end of the day math, dudes rather battle or see battle surf roc holla 10x over you. Is what it is
Surf is a URL legend, thats perfect. Now is he as battle rap legendary as he thinks he is, hell nah nowhere near. Surf got the science of battle rap down so tight tho, if he started a league? Oh man. And Holla the best performer in battle rap ever, Math trippin saying he ain’t a legend.
This can literally be said about most of the URL battlers after the Lionz Den merge. Surf, like many of those guys are DOPE, but do not exude GREATNESS. Surf has not yet shown an example of being on an elevated level.
“If your a legend you have star power”... Look at the views from Thesaurus vs Charron Or half of iron Solomon battles compared to surfs 😅... Popularity does not equal talent or legendary status... we in the era where numbers lie 💯
Surf is a legend... Best face offs, only battle rapper since Cassidy to have mainstream success, aurguably the most believable battler rapper. Dude took 5 shots like pac did, survived, and is now making more money to do commentary than some top tier battlers.... Legendary
@@jayquanpov9486Who do you think is better off in life Surf or his shooter?? Or better question are you saying you personally respect surf's shooter more than tsu surf just because he shot him? Stop quoting jay z smh
@@jayquanpov9486 I never said he was a legend just bcuz he got shot. I'm sure a lotta battle rappers been shot but who cares. I said after he got shot he is now CURRENTLY making more money doing commentary than top tier battle rappers. If you don't respect that imma agree to disagree lol
@@cuevaswalker 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ they push math out talking shit bout surf not gone make us wanna see this battle... he better go talk to Beasley n get a low tier battle
Imma keep it real best Math battles bars wise I ever seen were Rex, Daylyt, Dizaster & maybe part 2 VS dose but Surf got wayyyy more classics/ debatables even with the chokes but I feel the same about Verb...... n tbh whos in more best bars compilations?? IJS
that makes them legendary tho😂😂 why are we making exceptions for certain people? if a battle rapper is getting millions of views in days, thats legendary my guy
@@kking62711 thats successful, that popular. That's not legendary. Thats like saying Doja cat is legendary. T-surf and Jaz are so stuck on view count its ridiculous.
@@MrMojoJojo101 so does Math lol... math is not that good. Math loves bringing up hollow cause it’s all he really has lol. Besides like hollow and marv, both GREAT performances. Math aint really all that imo.
Funny how they talking about bodies without stating the obvious with Official and Jaz in the same room (or maybe they did mention it? Currently watching 6 minutes in). Now THAT was a body. I go to that battle from time to time to plant my flowers 💐
This is Hilarious!! Math really be on some hating shit when it comes to Surf. Jaz is a ride or die Homegirl. Nd Official outside of being a battle rapper herself don't know too much about the sport foreal. But i'm entertained lol
Math speaking factz though it's about Making History and what you have done . Surf can't Battle any other leagues and get a million he's way more known on URL.
That’s Deff a fact and that’s because Surf is not global and super overated......Surf can’t do what he do in URL on any other stage and he’s actually scared to do it.....Surf don’t be talking bout nothing💯
He did not beat con bro niggas to busy worried about who the realist con had to many bars for that man. Actually if u look at the battle at the beginning that was the first time I seen surf a lil nervous
“Surf has not battled on a big league off URL for you to say he can’t hit a million” - Jaz So you can’t say somebody didn’t do something because they didn’t do it? Jaz, like all Surf fans are delusional.
Literally the 2 worst people to debate whether surf is a legend. One hates him and the other has a crush on him. Smh.
GOD TEIR COMMENT!!!
Lmfao damn you right 🤣
This comment sums it up completely
True
math ain’t wrong but he ain’t right either
Find yourself a girl that defends your honor like Jaz defends Surf😂😂
😂😂💯
She loves that man
Yo thats a body lol
Only if behind closed doors she keep it real with the nigga cuz yes men is the reason why he a punching bag now.
Facts
"You can have Star Power, but you can't be a Legend for having Star Power." Well said Official 👏
Factz
also you can be a legend and not have star power ..... ask head ice 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@mrsoundoff078 that’s true he was the man on lionz den.
@@mrsoundoff078 he was kinda a star over at KOTD, but that was funny lmao. Maybe Swave 🤔
@@40lopezz i use to ball until the rim became short to me
You know why surf a legend... He not even battling & this gone be the most viewed video this week on this channel
👏👏👏
Wrong. We here for the argument. Not surfs bars.
@@ashead11 let’s all be honest here, we are here cuz Surf name is in the title... If it was (enter battle rapper) it would not have this many views this quickly
@@acedouble00 surf ain’t no legend. Ain’t No way.
@@ashead11 the guy that has the most views per battle not a legend... ok sir 👌
I remember when aye Verb told math he had the image of a truck driver lmao
And this was shot on a camera phone....NAAAASSSTTYYY
Cortez Voice
You watched the whole jawn too.
OnGod 😭
@@ReeaaalityTv nahhh played it on my speaker while I was playing 2k 🤷🏾♂️
@Random Opinion 😂😂😂
Damn Jaz Check You Out Standing Up For Your Man 😄💯
🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂
I was saying the same thing lmaooooo
Jaz def riding surf wave n Math one them battlers that niggas who are more popular than him don’t wanna battle because they feel they superior , but at same time Hoffa can make em feel uncomfortable on a big stage n they don’t be wanting to stand in front of that I be thinking . And most people antics they wouldn’t pull on Math so they rather say he ain’t worthy anything to not battle em . And Surf respected , he considered a legend from longevity n still relevant but he gotta solidify himself with a major performance still .
y’all weird
Surf Gone Have a Field day with this 😂
LOL!! INDEED. AND HIS LOVE FOR JAZ JUST WENT THROUGH THE ROOF LOL
Yup! and i will be there with popcorn in hand laughing lol
And be wrong the whole time!!!
Surf finna give Jaz a baby for this 🤣💯
Million analogies
Everybody need a friend like Jaz, one that will defend you this hard when you not around
Facts
Jaz put the cape on for this save.
She loves him.
She also tells him when he’s done wrong
I feel like friends that overrate you & gas you up are toxic. They feed your ego, which helps stunt it your growth. You need friends that keep it real.
Legend has it
Jazz is still headed out.
🤣
If battle rap stopped today, Hitman, Surf, Tay Roc, K Shine, DNA etc. Will go down as legends who helped build URL and shape battle rap to be as big as it is today. They’re legends
Facts add in clips verb n hollow I’m not a fan of verb or hollow but that era was definitely the golden age of url
Hollow as well
Conceited absolutely should be in there too.
Math: Surf got like 7 missing third round
Bro got missing work like a college class
😭😭😭
And he still clickbait😂
Math got mad when she said he only known from punching people in face
And I thought Brooklyn only look out for Brooklyn 🤣.
Faxxx
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And she only known for making ugly faces
Hell yea 🤣
“Do you think he beat Calicoe?”
“Absolutely NOT.”
Facts
Wtf kinda question was that anyway smh
Math can't say the same either... Summer Madness 3-0'd in his own city of NY by Cal.
Lol
@@victoru918 you act like its embarrassing to lose to Cal he a legend for a reason
Well he just did now
Hitman definitely a legend . He helped make battle rap commercial
Conceited also help with punchers
Math confusing “9 wins and 12 losses” so who he beat? “Nobody!” So who the nine wins?
Kevin Herron soft wins... he’s wrong but the overall record is dookie
Math can't do math
Lmaoooooooooo
@@obikwabkenobi1254 you right not arguing that lol, math just need to pick a side is it nine wins or did he beat nobody lmao.
1 umm
2 umm
3 umm
4 hol on..
5 umm
6 umm
7 umm
8 sh!t
9 fukk !t
Only reason Jaz and Math are in the same room is because she’s battling Mz Fit in a few months.
I hope so , this don't look good
Finally she stops declining battles like she’s Lux lol.
@@thatsseauxnish_ Honestly, I think she was scared because Mz Fit was on her neck and Jaz ain’t never had nobody press her like that. Remember, Jaz not like that.
Sax Fiff Jaz is more bar heavy than Fit. The only thing Fit has over her is personality.
@@locklife4336 jaz need time to write and do her homework she better have same great material and she need to win
*Math lost to Method Man and a guy who raps in another language.*
Lmao
LMAO
And he lost to nicky jam.
And nicky jam lmfaoo
Damn Nicky Jam cooked him bad for someone that doesn’t battle rap.
12:49 I'm glad Jaz brought this up. I have something to say...
How many of Surf's million view battles include the most popular people in battle rap at the time?
- Hitman was consistently having million view battles prior to surf. That's a cheat code.
- Tayroc was the face of url, the people's champ (on url) and was having a lot of good battles on url while only battling on url in that era where "loyalty to one league" was really important to people
- Teaming up with the fan favorite for a 2-on-2 against the premier 2-on-2 team in battlerap, who revitalized 2-on-2s and had been on national tv and everything
- Geechi was Url rookie of the year and Champion of the year for the previous year and was becoming a fan favorite.
Clearly, those views were largely off popularity of the names
.
Side note for anybody who read this:
Take note of how calculated Surf's career has been and where he's gotten because of that. You should understand the logic behind his argument against calicoe when he said collaborations & networking are important for clout.
Yeah if you only battle the most viewed than your gonna be the most viewed.
This is the dumbest argument ever. You can go down any of the top viewed battlers' resume and see that most of their views are from battling other top viewed battlers.
I think Surf's aura in his prime is what make him a legend. Although he does have plenty losses.
Yo math obsession with Surf if just weird at this point.
Did we just watch the same video??
JAZ has the obsession......
Surf is not a legend.......she’s emotional over an opinion!
@@CanaanMoor surf definitely a legend
@@CanaanMoor jaz ride hard for surf but math mention him everytime the camera come on
Math hates “star power” cause he’s never had any.
@@adambernon6930 seriously had math been bodied the most in battle rap history? T top, cal, ave, show off
Tae more of a legend in battle rap
Tay*
Math:surf got 9 wins & 12 losses
Jaz: who did surf beat?
Math:Nobody!
😂😂😂😂😂
Surf gets a lot of hate but he beat Hollow, Hitman, X Factor I got him beat Tay Roc, geechi Gotti.
Lmao 😂 the confusion is real ...
@@appganga6840 he didn’t beat hollow but everyone else yes
@@ShooterScrappy he beat Hollow Hollow was trash that battle. But I'm thinking about changing my channel and talkin about battle rap math has point.
To be clear Hitman his million view battle on every league he step on.
This was a classical heated debate but Surf & Hitman definitely are legends
Without a doubt 💯
If surf isn’t a “legend” ask majority of the battle rappers now who’d they choose to Battle. Math or Surf?
lemme switch that question up real quick who would u rather have a feature from Eminem/drake/jay z or MF DOOM/ Lauryn HIll/ Ghostface killah
All of these niggas is legends ( to my eyes anyway) in the rap game but certain niggas have higher views than the others, does that mean thier better then them 😐
moral of the story is math aint a legend
@@maxis2778 In what sense
So youre a legend if niggas wanna battle you???? Log off my guy
@@maxis2778 Doom was criminally underrated. But a GOAT none the less 🔥💯🔥
@@jermainelester2598 watchu mean what sense? that math aint a legend.
punching a nigga in his noging dont make you a legend in my eyes. it make you the nigga who got a lot of views for punching a nigga. them views didnt make battle rap fans or battle rappers.
just like how i think surf brought views and we should commend him for that but his style aint make battlers, he didnt fuck up the game,
This man Loso sitting on the ground with his legs crossed lmao
Go ahead and say he ..like a
Where???? I gotta see this
@@artist3gaming897 lol look at the beginning of the video
How exactly is he suppose to sit while on the ground? smh. lol
yeh why is dat mention-able??. 🤔
Surf is the greatest battle rapper alive, a super legend, an emaculate journalist, excellent artist and an absolute GOAT
In his head
YOU GOT ME BRO😂😂😂😂
Had us in the first half not gonna lie
😂😂😂😂
😂
Surf did not beat con... all they ass buggin
Right
Con smoked surf
Surf is a legend whether you a fan of him or not
Put some respect on Arsonal name coz he more than a legend
Arsenal Deff top 5 they always shitting on Ars 💯Ars got one of the longest runs💯💯
Yea Arse Is A ICON.
Facts
Ars, is a founding father damn near....
@@Frenchie-mf6xr Couldn't have said it better myself.
Damn, Surf gonna have a field day after he sees this! And Jaz was defending Surf's honor...Danny Meyers voice - YIKES!!!
She should they are really good friends
My criteria for a legend
- Classic battles
- Memorable bars
- Consistency
- Influence
- Delivery
- Presence
- Originality
- Performance
Would you consider Hitman a legend?
That being said..... is Surf a “legend” or just “Popular”.
@@Thebiggestvulture I would
@@mrb.2497 the only factor that Surf doesn't have is consistency. He's has everything else.
@@nyz6685 just making sure because hitman made the whole checklist😭
What Math doesn't get is you don't have to do anything groundbreaking to be a legend. A legend is simply a person that leaves an unforgettable impression on the people.
I would have payed money to see surf in the room with them having this conversation
He woulda been the only one talking lol even videos wit Surf in the background he always talking I bet any amount of money Surf talks in his sleep lol dude never shuts tf up.
Surf wouldn't come in a room with Math.
"has Aye Verb done 1 Mil views on another league???"
Yea aaaaand he beat Surf on another league.....
Lmmfao
Upsetting to see ppl of this caliber throwing things they dont know around
Loool facts tho. Verb 30’d Surf on Gorilla Warfare and Surf wanted that battle for years 😂
14:16 FACTS!!!!!!!!! Verb 30d Surf. And Jaz sounds crazy 🤪 about Aye Verb by the way.
No media outlet at events? No problem.
Uncle Rah will still have solid content. 💯
He had a hidden camera in that room. Grind don’t stop lol
Where's Jayblacc when you need him?
Nah Jayblac is almost the female Jaz when Tsu name come up. I bet his top 3 are LUX VERB than TSU
@@vicp9200 there is nothing wrong with surf being up there , stop hating
@@wavveyyvibez1675 first grow up and stop calling opinions you disagree with HATE. STOP THAT now, pls. Now I need to know what you are saying.
Are you saying Surf is a Legend which I agree with but its debatable or
Are you saying Surf is on the same level with LUX & VERB, which he isn't. What are you saying?
@@vicp9200 blac has named his top 3 numerous times. Never had surf cmon bro.
@@dominiquetall5511 word? What is it?
O'fficial, if you DON'T care about The History, you CAN'T speak on LEGENDS.
Facts
Surf choke legend
Exactly, she doing the most talking with least knowledge
Surf is a legend. Like him or not, you know his name.
DAMN MATH HATING
What else is new
That's what he always does, he hates on most of the top guys on url cause he isn't there and not getting paid what they are
He told no lies tho
Water is wet
If Surf wasn’t already a legend he couldn’t get away with not having a 3rd for the last 5 years. Sounds fucked up but if he hadn’t already done legendary shit they wouldn’t still cheer🤷🏾♂️
Not necessarily. It’s half “I want to see him get his sh*t together”.
Same w/ Clips.
@@thatsseauxnish_wtf 😂😂 clips not a legend either huh??? Yall giving me new fan vibes 😂
@@staccg3501 I think he was saying we want to continue to see greatest from Surf & Clips cause their “slip ups/2 rounds” haven’t amounted to the legendary shit they did & we know their most def capable of 💯
@@tyriewilliams5838 fax ...I'll agree with that statement then
Jaz gonna cry in the car 😂😂😂
Lol
Jaz is literally weeping over this shit bro 😭
Math is straight CAPPIN'! Surf is a LEGEND!
Fax 💯
factz
I know that's right, Jazz. You better take up for your bae, Surf!
And never gets it
That’s what I was thinking
Lol she getting super defensive over surf this confirms they're smashing haha
@@ryanhamilton2241 or they are close? Like brother and sisters? Why does everything between a man and woman gotta be sexual ya niggas never had any female friends and it shows ya weird asf.
@@isaiahwestbrook6316 pretty obvious and some people be smashing their female friends even though “they just friends “
No 3 rounds kills your legacy if you keeping choking
Thank you !🤦🏾♀️ she's only riding for surf like that cause their cool on that level if u ask me !
Homie bugging tayroc is definitely more of a legend than surf but I don’t like comparing them at all!!
Big cap
Don't have to compare truth it is what it is aint no knock to Surf it's just the facts
@@CnormTV yet surf is paid more and headlines more events? 🤣
@@greedy8711 tsu surf is slightly more popular plus he sells battles better than anybody
Roc the goat of his Era
I’ve never seen another man hate another man the way Math hates Surf. Lmao
Surf was more entertaining out of the ring than he was in the ring. Tell me I’m lying
You lying
People forget surf is electric on that stage
Surf is choke legend
@@wz324 Surf builds anticipation but also delivers more let downs than anyone else.
@@otisperry4382 facts he’s still a legend still has some of the most electrical moments on stage and beaten some of the toughest competition
He’s a legend on Twitter... He’s a legendary tweeter ~Math😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Of course surf is a legend who else has choked more epically than surf? Who has dropped the ball more at important times than surf? NO ONE! SURF IS THE CHOKING LEGEND!
Well said my brotha, well said
I like that break down
That don't make him a legend that's like rewarding a player for getting too playoffs and getting swept first round
😂😂😂
🤣🤣
Jaz Fightin For Her Homie To No Avail!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
She deff putting that cap on
Loyalty . But she just keeping it 100 💯 holding it down for her era all them guys she defending are most definitely Legends no if ands or butt's.
as she should 😂
She not only defending surf she’s defending url. That’s what you guys not seeing math said no to everyone not 35 basically.. My guy is Hitman holla and K shine not legends?we gotta think about it. It’s url hate.
i ain’t mad at Math’s take .... he ain’t hating. he has a valid point... in what sport can you have a losing record and be considered a legend ? 🤷🏾♂️
Idk but it’s a lot of niggas who never gotta ring and still is a legend
It’s a lot of them have has awards🤔🤣
@@thegoldenerra2402 Rings and Victories are two different things
Lebron got a losing record in the Finals but he’s definitely a legend 🤷🏾♂️
@@zeecoleman6503 That's in the finals. If you talk about overall W-Ls he's won twice as many games as he's lost.
Who cares about bodies? It's about the performance. A classic is more important than a body.
Surf sitting back smiling. Right now.
Idk Why he’s a Bum.
you make no sense
@@backends550 How? He’s a Choke Artist and he’s Overrated.
he still a legend that’s like saying trex not a legend
@@backends550 unlike Surf, Trex was never a Choke Artist like Surf 1., Yes he Rex has declined over the years but he put in a lot of Pain to deserve his Legend Status. Unlike your boy Surf. 🤷🏾♂️
Hate to say it.... Math got a point.
Math definitely has a point
Math is garbage 🗑 top cal ave jag he lost so many battles Lol
@@Saviiq math is ass. I agree lol. But what he's saying about surf isn't wrong.
@@waltg86_19 lol. He ain't right.
@@phenomfacemob1011 it's like surf always says.... battle rap is opinionated. Surf is actually my favorite to watch. But him coming with no 3rds and messing up battles is holding him back from being legendary
When a woman has your back she has it to the end ❤️💯
😂😂😂😂
I feel like Math is thinking more of an “Icon” compared to “Legend”. If Surf would’ve beat Lux , he would have reached Icon status or at least gotten very close to it
I agree with you. Because as an "Icon" those chokes and "Jersey" and not having third rounds can hurt you. As an "Icon" you shouldn't want to aspire to be the next surf. As an "Icon" you shouldn't want to come across the biggest battle of your career against one of the Goats and choke and perform like that. But as a legend, to say you were able to impact the URL culture the way you did, put yourself in a position to take certain battles on certain stages, thats legend stuff
@@StCropper the moments and bars are there u cannot deny that
@@Riqharris of course not. I’m not delusional 😂
Math should try not to get caught on cam hating like this...
His objectivity doesn’t exist. It’s wild Bruh 🤦🏾♂️
Math still looking mad salty he can’t get a battle lol at the end of the day math, dudes rather battle or see battle surf roc holla 10x over you. Is what it is
Surf is a URL legend, thats perfect. Now is he as battle rap legendary as he thinks he is, hell nah nowhere near. Surf got the science of battle rap down so tight tho, if he started a league? Oh man. And Holla the best performer in battle rap ever, Math trippin saying he ain’t a legend.
Couldn’t have said it better 👌🏼
Wow someone smart in the comments. Salute bro
Facts, hitman holla performance through the roof. Only guy comparable to him in that aspect is DOT!
This can literally be said about most of the URL battlers after the Lionz Den merge. Surf, like many of those guys are DOPE, but do not exude GREATNESS. Surf has not yet shown an example of being on an elevated level.
Jaz was bias as hell too she couldn’t explain why she felt surf was a legend 😂😂😂😂😂
She not being bias cause math said hitman and roc are not legends
“If your a legend you have star power”... Look at the views from Thesaurus vs Charron Or half of iron Solomon battles compared to surfs 😅... Popularity does not equal talent or legendary status... we in the era where numbers lie 💯
Exactly cuz The Lox legendary group with legendary members never went platinum.
Surf is a legend... Best face offs, only battle rapper since Cassidy to have mainstream success, aurguably the most believable battler rapper. Dude took 5 shots like pac did, survived, and is now making more money to do commentary than some top tier battlers.... Legendary
Takinh shota dont make you a legend. Niggas respect the shooter not the shot
@@jayquanpov9486Who do you think is better off in life Surf or his shooter?? Or better question are you saying you personally respect surf's shooter more than tsu surf just because he shot him? Stop quoting jay z smh
@@CrisO_d obviously try surf wasnt moving the way he was supposed to if you getting shot at on multiple occasions, respect goes both ways by the way.
And my point stands, i was referring to your "legend" statement, getting shot and surviving doesn't make you an automatic legend
@@jayquanpov9486 I never said he was a legend just bcuz he got shot. I'm sure a lotta battle rappers been shot but who cares. I said after he got shot he is now CURRENTLY making more money doing commentary than top tier battle rappers. If you don't respect that imma agree to disagree lol
I think time solidifies legendary status really. Miles, Marv Won, Conceited, Young ill, Reed Dollas, all nothing to do with records.
They'll just be considered respected vets nothing legendary
@@clue276 Marv is a legend bro.
i stopped listening to dude's WHOLE argument once he said surf is more of a legend than Tay Roc..🏌🏾♂️
I stopped listening after Math said he bodied John John
Math stay talking shit 4 a battle.
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Thats what you suppose to do.
Its battle rap
@@cuevaswalker 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ they push math out talking shit bout surf not gone make us wanna see this battle... he better go talk to Beasley n get a low tier battle
Yep, and he stay getting smoked!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Imma keep it real best Math battles bars wise I ever seen were Rex, Daylyt, Dizaster & maybe part 2 VS dose but Surf got wayyyy more classics/ debatables even with the chokes but I feel the same about Verb...... n tbh whos in more best bars compilations?? IJS
Surf a legend period bruh no matter how much he choke , when ever he battle don’t matter who it is he hitting A Million
Choke Legends!!! Category
I CAN'T BELIEVE MATH ACTUALLY STOPPED THE HATE FOR HOLLOW AND ADMITTED HE'S A LEGEND
cuz he's realistic just cuz his opinion on Surf is unpopular but true Is the only reason everyone calls him a hater.
Only so he can say he beat a legend
@@postman6177 lmaoo
@postman6177 lol nah I think him beating him made him less egotistical to admit that hollow is a legend
Jaz needs to stop equating legendary status with views, views determine popularity not influence . Math needs to let the URL hate go.
that makes them legendary tho😂😂 why are we making exceptions for certain people? if a battle rapper is getting millions of views in days, thats legendary my guy
@@kking62711 thats successful, that popular. That's not legendary. Thats like saying Doja cat is legendary. T-surf and Jaz are so stuck on view count its ridiculous.
Math is a serious goofy. Like he has serious ego problems. He is lost. LUX TALK TO HIM lol.
Please Talk to The Bull
He was right tbh Tsu has a losing record with lots of great debatable’s and a couple clear wins
@@MrMojoJojo101 so does Math lol... math is not that good. Math loves bringing up hollow cause it’s all he really has lol. Besides like hollow and marv, both GREAT performances. Math aint really all that imo.
@@MrMojoJojo101 math got a losing record on big stages. Lol
Funny how they talking about bodies without stating the obvious with Official and Jaz in the same room (or maybe they did mention it? Currently watching 6 minutes in). Now THAT was a body. I go to that battle from time to time to plant my flowers 💐
Bottom line surf is better than math
@@dijoncampbell3469 at least Math respects the culture enough to be professional and come with 3 rounds every battle. Can’t say the same for Tsunami
You can hear the PAIN in Math's voice talking about Surf lol
Gotta be painful when he the only one who sees Surf for the battle rap bum that he is.
Surf 3rd vs Hitman more legendary then anything Math has done
More than his battle with Iron Solomon?
@@Quran112083 Iron vs Math or Surf vs Hitman?
Nah I can’t agree with that that’s big cap. Math’s 3rd vs Rex is 10 times better than Surf 3rd vs Hitman
@@soleil3gs shouldn't drink this early
@@SpittinSinceBirth123 nah, he is right. Math 3rd against is def more legendary.
MATH U CANT MENTION THE VIEWS FOR SURF BUT THEN SAY HITMAN IS NOT A LEGEND. HITMAN GOT DUDE FROM JAIL HIS BIGGEST RUclips PAY
are you the guy with the bald head and the Arron Rodgers mustache
@@mrsoundoff078 SAME AARON RODGERS WHO CHOKED AND LOST U MONEY?
@@cj10211982 😭😭😭😭😭🥺
@@cj10211982 we both know them refs was cheating
Damn UNC did you film this on a hidden body cam? 😂salute for the content
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This comment made an laugh out loud! Hidden Body cam! 😂
*Being a Legend and being Popular are two different things. Will someone please tell this to Jaz?*
Surf a legend bruh.
Jazz saying that math is being biased but so is she.
My issue is that Jaz never gave any VALID reasons for why Surf is a legend like Math asked her to
Exactly...can clearly see now who POPPED her CHERRY lmao
So we going to act like this whole video isn’t about Math trying to get a battle with Surf or Lux 🤷🏾♂️
Who cares he never gettin it in this lifetime
Facts
@@jameelbuggs5592 you crazy if you think surf won’t keep ducking other ppl and take Math or Ez da block
Who’s the pregnant guy in the video?? And no not official
Nhb millz
That Uncle Rah son
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Lmaooooooooooooo
Jaz act like she’d sacrifice her life for Surf! Surf IS NOT a battle rap legend. FOH!!!!!
He is... but only because of being around from URL's infancy. I don't like surf either but he is one
I agree surf is not a legend
Me too he isn't a legend at all unless we talking about shit talking
Surf is super top tier. Legend? I don't agree. And low key I really really don't like surf at all but his fan base is crazy.
Cause she a bird
That Jungle battle dropped on the Ultimate Rap League channel.
You can not mention URL or battle rap history without mentioning Tsu Surf. He is a legend
Jazz! Only open your mouth to rap, maybe.... damn lmao
@@cliffordburns506 you definitely didn't read the comment you decided to respond to
Damn the lens look like it needs to be cleaned 😂😭
This is Hilarious!! Math really be on some hating shit when it comes to Surf. Jaz is a ride or die Homegirl. Nd Official outside of being a battle rapper herself don't know too much about the sport foreal. But i'm entertained lol
Well said
facts Official was just chatting lol
Facts
Damn Math actually has some good points....
Surf is a legend . . . For saying, “Jersey” I only watch surf to see what round he’s going to choke in
*🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣*
Math speaking factz though it's about Making History and what you have done . Surf can't Battle any other leagues and get a million he's way more known on URL.
Surf vs Suge got 3.1m
You can't say he can't do it. He hasn't done it much, but that doesn't mean he can't
That’s Deff a fact and that’s because Surf is not global and super overated......Surf can’t do what he do in URL on any other stage and he’s actually scared to do it.....Surf don’t be talking bout nothing💯
Jaz and Math in the same room? 🤔
Brooklyn in the house
Thats how Brooklyn do
it’s battle rap, they don’t have real issues.
Tay roc is way more of a legend..
Without question
Facts definitely more than Surf
For sure and I got him beating Surf
That’s the real conversation right there
@@tyronefoster6222 your buggin surf killed that boy
Hitman and Surf are both legends. Because of them both I watch battle rap. That battle is still legendary
I agree
He did not beat con bro niggas to busy worried about who the realist con had to many bars for that man. Actually if u look at the battle at the beginning that was the first time I seen surf a lil nervous
Surf must be puttin Jaz ankles all the way behind her neck she looked like she was fittin to start crying in this joint 😭 😢
😂😂😂
Word my dude she was madd annoying shit is kinda embarissin
Math is straight hating if he think surf is not a legend...
He is a legend for choking I never seen him body no one
How is he a legend?
He’s not a legend .... he is popular ...... very popular ..... market himself well but legend based on his battles is a no
Tay roc got 42 url battles with most of them wins..couple of bodies how is he not a legend before surf?
First of all he got 44 I had him beaten surf
Roc lost battles and had great debatables..
@@Saviiq bro he has 44 battles..he won at leafs 80 percent of those battles...please if u don’t know history stay out of this
@@Saviiq surf had great debatables no bodies at all..he got bodied tho
So they asked Math a question and got mad at his answer 😂😂😂🤦🏾♂️
Cus he full of shxx
“Surf has not battled on a big league off URL for you to say he can’t hit a million” - Jaz
So you can’t say somebody didn’t do something because they didn’t do it? Jaz, like all Surf fans are delusional.