Great content wam really been needing something like this as me and my bro mostly play 2v2s and are fairly new so this helps a tonne. One question I have though is how does a game play out if its a mirror of the defensive/greed comps? Thanks!
Yeah thats so if its a mirror in a greedy/defensive comp you probably play similarly to what I said in the video with the defensive player playing a bit more greedy than normal with maybe an early 2nd TC or proscouts or something. The issue is, is that they cant full greed because you still want to slow down the opposing greedy player so they cant vacuum all the relics or so your teammate can. So yeah tough one but slightly more greed than usual id say from the defensive player but not full greed.
Hi WAM, thank you so much for this video my friend and I only play 2v2s I play OOTD or JD and he plays Japanese, probably not the best combo but still fun! Any tips for that weird civ combo appreciated haha :D
Id say with OOTD/Japan you can play heavy feudal and he can still fast castle while with JD I guess you would play feudal aswell probably with knights and he could either go knight or samurai/Onna in castle age if you need alternatives units.
@@Wam01Wow thank you so much for replying so fast you're amazing Wam! Quick last question, should I be the one making archers as ootd or jd to deal with spears as yumis are kinda bad especially if he rushes castle? Thanks again! This is amazing, you got a new subscriber!
@@PoshMudcrab Yeah you would need to make making Archers as OOTD. You can probably get anyway with no making archers as JD since you have the hero but Japan could probably need to go inf in castle.
Thanks Wam!! This is a great video - covered all playstyles too! In the Japan/Eng game that you got overwhelmed by Rus/French, do you think it was just a wrong matchup? Because if Japan was going fast castle, English would not have the mobility to defend such a fast attack - or was there something you feel that could have worked had you known the plan from Loue and CsOH. I suppose Japan could have made a few units but then you lose anyway because they have knights and you don't.
In hindsight I think I needed to focus solely on defending Japan. I got both wheelbarrow and the wood upgrade that game. I should have focused only on longbows (no spears) I think and gotta the blacksmith upgrades early to be able to trade well. If we can survive to get Japan castle the game should be favored for us. I think I just got a bit greedy and didnt see our win condition.
How would you rate OTD/mali/HRE in 2vs2 scenario's? Do u think the way infastructure civs fundamentally work- means stuff like cheaper towers for HRE are completely negated as- 'just go raid the other guy playing now! '
Mali is a unique one that works sort of like 2tc civs. I forgot to mention them here but you would ideally play them with more aggressive/knight style civs. OTD/HRE function very similarly. And yes there infrastructure bonuses are less valuable than in 1v1s however they also have different bonuses such as Aachen (better farms) which is better in 2v2s. So overall I would probably rate Mali/OTD B tier and HRE A/S tier personally I find them one of the best civs to play atm.
Great video! You mention that the FC player always goes knights. But lets say the FC player is playing byz which doesnt have knights what composition would you go for then?
Hahaha good point yes. You are right I didnt mention everything. With Byzantines you would continue to go Limetani/jav/lb or possibly variangian alongside a knight teammate.
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nice, we need more resources on team games! that's were most of the enthusiast non-pro community is
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Thanks for sharing these. 2v2 is fun!
Thanks for playing in the DEBILS cup :D so awesome that this content spawned from it
And thanks for hosting ofcourse:)
Thanks for the video! Not a lot of people out there talking about team game strats. Also, NA #1!!!
Great content wam really been needing something like this as me and my bro mostly play 2v2s and are fairly new so this helps a tonne. One question I have though is how does a game play out if its a mirror of the defensive/greed comps? Thanks!
Yeah thats so if its a mirror in a greedy/defensive comp you probably play similarly to what I said in the video with the defensive player playing a bit more greedy than normal with maybe an early 2nd TC or proscouts or something. The issue is, is that they cant full greed because you still want to slow down the opposing greedy player so they cant vacuum all the relics or so your teammate can. So yeah tough one but slightly more greed than usual id say from the defensive player but not full greed.
Great vid
I can't wait to play with StateSC2! We will be unstoppable now. Thanks Wam!
Awesome!
Ty
i was looking for video like this
This guy cant stop winning
Hi WAM, thank you so much for this video my friend and I only play 2v2s
I play OOTD or JD and he plays Japanese, probably not the best combo but still fun! Any tips for that weird civ combo appreciated haha :D
Id say with OOTD/Japan you can play heavy feudal and he can still fast castle while with JD I guess you would play feudal aswell probably with knights and he could either go knight or samurai/Onna in castle age if you need alternatives units.
@@Wam01Wow thank you so much for replying so fast you're amazing Wam! Quick last question, should I be the one making archers as ootd or jd to deal with spears as yumis are kinda bad especially if he rushes castle?
Thanks again! This is amazing, you got a new subscriber!
@@PoshMudcrab Yeah you would need to make making Archers as OOTD. You can probably get anyway with no making archers as JD since you have the hero but Japan could probably need to go inf in castle.
@@Wam01 Makes sense now, thanks so much again!
Thanks Wam!! This is a great video - covered all playstyles too!
In the Japan/Eng game that you got overwhelmed by Rus/French, do you think it was just a wrong matchup? Because if Japan was going fast castle, English would not have the mobility to defend such a fast attack - or was there something you feel that could have worked had you known the plan from Loue and CsOH. I suppose Japan could have made a few units but then you lose anyway because they have knights and you don't.
In hindsight I think I needed to focus solely on defending Japan. I got both wheelbarrow and the wood upgrade that game. I should have focused only on longbows (no spears) I think and gotta the blacksmith upgrades early to be able to trade well. If we can survive to get Japan castle the game should be favored for us. I think I just got a bit greedy and didnt see our win condition.
so china would have to be paired with french/rus? feudal knights with 2tc zhuge nu (or archers if opponents have longbows)
Yeah pretty much in both styles you would need to play with a knight civ with China.
How would you rate OTD/mali/HRE in 2vs2 scenario's? Do u think the way infastructure civs fundamentally work- means stuff like cheaper towers for HRE are completely negated as- 'just go raid the other guy playing now! '
Mali is a unique one that works sort of like 2tc civs. I forgot to mention them here but you would ideally play them with more aggressive/knight style civs.
OTD/HRE function very similarly. And yes there infrastructure bonuses are less valuable than in 1v1s however they also have different bonuses such as Aachen (better farms) which is better in 2v2s.
So overall I would probably rate Mali/OTD B tier and HRE A/S tier personally I find them one of the best civs to play atm.
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Great video! You mention that the FC player always goes knights. But lets say the FC player is playing byz which doesnt have knights what composition would you go for then?
Hahaha good point yes. You are right I didnt mention everything. With Byzantines you would continue to go Limetani/jav/lb or possibly variangian alongside a knight teammate.
nice, we need more resources on team games!
that's were most of the enthusiast non-pro community is
do you have a lisp or is that an accent?
Bit of a lisp