WEST BROMWICH DAGGER LANE Hill House Grade 2 listed, a National DISGRACE
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I walk along Dagger Lane in WEST BROMWICH to visit the historical house called HILL HOUSE which once belonged to a naval commander named James Eaton. He served with Admiral Nelson in Trafalgar but His former home is now nothing short of disgrace.
It looks neglected and decrepit and also in need of some proper security as it has now become a fire risk. I also visit Hill House Farm which looks in better condition than the house.
I finish the walk in Church Vale just off Hallam Street in West Bromwich
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I remember first meeting the boys who lived in Hill House (Alex and Ben) when they moved to the area and joined All Saints Primary in the mid-80s. They lived at Hill House with their younger brother Danny and later Yian. I spent countless days and nights there throughout the ’90s, and early 2000s. Hill House was always a bit intimidating when I was younger, with its big old kitchen, huge fireplace, long dark corridors, and there was a door in the loft with ‘evil never dies, it just waits to be reborn’ written in red (by the boys I suspect to scare their friends)! The place always felt old and creaky, and it seemed like the renovations never really got anywhere, but that was part of the charm. There was even a rumor about a secret tunnel that supposedly ran from Hill House to All Saints Church, which added to the mystery of the place. Despite the ghost stories and the eerie atmosphere, Ive got fond memories of playing in the garden, building tree houses, watching films, and celebrating the millennium there. Dave and his family were always welcoming, and Hill House was like a second home at times. It was a massive part of my childhood, and I’ll always look back on it fondly.
Wonderful memories thanks for sharing it with us, i may see if i can meet with Dave for a chat. Many thanks
Did you used to know my brother Stuart Groom. As he used to hang out with one of the kids of the house (not sure which one though) when he was younger. My brother was told they were meant to be restoring the house for the council and live in it whilst doing so. Is that true?
@@DazWaywardSon I wouldn't know Daz hopefully someone else may shed some light on the restoration
I grew up in 100 Dagger Lane and played over Hill House with the four boys who lived there. We built tree houses in the garden and had the best time exploring the house. Dave and Glenda still live there. They hosted the best parties and we saw in the millennium in Hill House. I came across the pictures recently of us all in one of the living rooms in front of the fire place! Dave and Glenda have done lots of work to the place over the years. It was much worse when they bought it. Hill House farm was very lovely when we lived there. Bill Brown was the farmer who lived in the house next door. There were lots of horses there and all the stables were rented out. It’s a shame to see it closed up. A nice trip down memory lane!
Great story much appreciated for sharing, many thanks
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Daggers Hall Lane as well here in Blackpool.
@@CarolMason-pi3gm It's an odd name isn't it? The origin of the word DAGGER in a street name could be from a family name? Thanks for the comment
I use to work for Sandwell council about 12 years ago, use to talk to Dave who lived in hill house. He lived in one side but couldn’t finish the other half. All the wood is for keeping the house warm and it takes quite a bit to heat lovely bloke tho, great video
Many thanks for this information
Before Dave took over Hill House it was a thousand times worse.
I’m sure the council washed their hands of it and Dave bought it off them in the hope of doing it up and preserving it.
Unfortunately the task was HUGE and it caught up with him.
The chap needs help and really shouldn’t be judged
So in a round about way he sort of saved it.
The farm was in use fairly recent and we used to get our sacks of spuds from them
Used to go to that school, but it was called Hallam junior school. Long walk for me little legs, as I used to live by Beeches Road Infant school. Shame about the house, was amazed to see the farm at the back. Again with the councils nature weeds, great video Phil.
Many thanks for the comment most appreciated
Phil there was a shop on the corner of Lloyd street n dagger lane plus the bus use to come down dagger lane use to live right opposite the park gates in my youth good times
Thanks SB for the info, I certainly wasn't aware of the shop. Back in the day there were many small corner shops. Most have now become residential after which one would never know a shop ever existed only the memories remain.
Well I never knew there was another farm around there. Hill house looks magnificent it should be secured and renovated for the people of West Brom ( and further afield) to enjoy.
Totally agree hopefully one day it will be worthy of a very fine museum.
Our heritage is disappearing fast. Such a great shame that important buildings are left to deteriorate and crumble.
@@marybarratt2649 I’m with you on that many thanks
I knew this area well...I used to live in Kiniths Way as a child...friends lived in Dagger Lane and Slaithwaite Avenue and Hill House was a working farm at the time...albeit a bit broken down even then...there was another farm on the road down to what became Sandwell Valley but we called it "Wason" then
Thanks MS I will be filming in Kiniths Way very soon, stay tuned
Dave lived in Hill House he was a voids contractor for SMBC.
Great bloke.
I worked on the HILL HOUSE in the 90s great place full of history .
The signal man James Eaton (1783-1856/1857) was an officer of the Royal Navy. He served aboard HMS Temeraire at the Battle of Trafalgar; as signal midshipman, he was the first person to pass on Nelson's famous signal to the fleet; "England expects that every man will do his duty".
Dave still lives in HILL HOUSE
Great info. Thanks for confirming someone still lives in there. I initially assumed the house was vacant until a passing postman told me some was still rattling around in there! Many thanks for the comment
It's a bit of a tip but it's better that it's occupied than derelict - if it was unoccupied people would get in and trash it.
I've been down that Lane many times but always forget its name. Interesting to see middle-class houses so close to the town centre - I'd be interested in you walking down Beeches Road as well.
@@DadgeCity At first glance it doesnt appear as though anyone lives in it - it really is crass that a huge pile of wood is directly outside of the property and anyone can simply climb into that frontage BTW i have recently filmed down BEECHES ROAD here is the link, many thanks for the comment ruclips.net/video/bMWjM0Ei-aA/видео.html
One side of Dagger lane the houses are lower as not to block the view of the opposite houses… The houses where owned and built by the great industrialists of West Bromwich… ie Dart Spring brothers built a large pair of semi detached and parked their horse and trap on the narrow drive way
One of the conservatories on the rear has stained glass windows with naval scenes as a previous owner was a navy captain
Many thanks for this brilliant information.Some great history along this stretch of road
Hi Phil enjoyed the walk down and around Dagger Lane it still looks like a nice area to live as you Say Hill House should be preserved I did not know there was a Farm at the back of Hill House all the best Paul
Hill house as always been the main attraction and talking point of dagger lane but at least it is original. Look at the amount of houses which are being historically destroyed being modernised by people who are moving into road and know nothing about the history of dagger lane and how sandwell council are passing the plans off are beyond me😢
good points, many thanks
Beautiful old building, I’m shocked it ain’t been set on fire or got squatters in there , who’s vans were in the garden ,
Dave. The chap owns it...
Hi Phil i was born in Hallam Hospital in 1954 and opposite the threepenny Bit i remember a service station my mom worked there all the best Paul
Wonderful Farm Buildings.
I was surprised to find them, many thanks
@@awalkwithphil You would find 'half a Sixpence' 3d bit...in those Staffordshire Farm Buildings....Now = Metropolitan..Tupenny 'apenny..Nickelodeon....Metric Corporation !!
@@awalkwithphil Threepence 3d...made of Bronze...=...Half a Sixpence 6d...a Tanner..(NOW.= put in the...Metric Nickelodeon...tuppence halfpenny...Metropolitan)
What a shame and utterly deplorable for not being maintained especially with it's historical heritage and being grade 2 listed. Yeah btw I was also born at the original Hallam Hospital 1960's👍
We're similar age so we have certainly seen the changes around us and mostly not for the better. Many thanks
Such a shame when things go to rack and ruin, it's like the crooked house pub I always thought that was listed, so sad😢
Grade 2 listed sadly is no real protection just WARRANTS protection only Grade 1 status is supposedly untouchable. Many thanks
I used to know the sons of the family that used to live there I’ve been inside and they had a few party’s in the garden
Brilliant info, many thanks
I first met you in Hill House Bav! In Ben’s blue bedroom!
I was born in Hallam Hospital as well in 58
Thank you so much for another great video Phil. Fascinating stuff and very sad to see the neglect of such an historical house.
Many thanks for your support
His Mining Went !
No longer Staffordshire!
Thanks for doing this video
Pleasure to film around the area, sad to see how Hill House is so neglected
@@awalkwithphil yeah, absolute disgrace. I don't understand why the council doesn't protect it and make it an asset along with those farm buildings and stables. Any idea how it got the name 'Daggar lane' originally?
@@SuperDare83 Its a strange name that. There was a Dagger Hall along this lane but then its how did the hall gets its name hopefully someone will know
Love your videos Phil...
Thanks for your support
Thankyou..."Half a Sixpence Anywhere?"
Dagger lane is the only part of West Brom that’s not a rat infested dump “ YET “ .. It really is GRIM ! Like Handsworth would once a very middle-class area now raving dumps ( why ) drive round them and the answer is obvious
i hope there haven't been any stabbings down there