Rondeau en couple free-improvisation by Sara and Paulo
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- Опубликовано: 9 апр 2017
- Having some fun before the second workshop for Folkaholics Boombal in Ghent, on April 9, 2017, dancing a rondeau en couple.
THIS IS NOT THE TRADITIONAL WAY OF DANCING THE RONDEAU EN COUPLE, originally from Gascogne, but rather a free personal interpretation.
Dancers: Sara Abreu and Paulo Oliveira
Music: 'BELFORT' by Les Zéoles 
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As an improvisation, it is absolutely marvellous, and I am sorry that some people were offended by it. I could watch it for hours
This video is a demonstration that current musicians who write bal folk music often have never heard a traditional rondeau of the Gascogne countryside and the two dancers above obviously do not know the difference. If you want to learn dancing the rondeau look for the teachers who did the research in Gascogne, I invite you to look for them to know their memories before everything is lost.
Dear Sara and Paulo, this invitation is also for you.
Dear roulonsroulons, we deeply appreciate your comment and thank you for your valuable insight. We understand and respect your opinion.
But we also want to clear the fact that this video was never intended to state as a true representation on the traditional rondeau. We do know how to dance it and we know the difference. This is just a free improvisation, a free interpretation of it.
Furthermore, we do not believe in tradition as a closed-stopped-in-time practice, but rather a constant evolution that is subject to influences throughout time, much like a language.
Best regards.
3Temps
Sara Abreu and Paulo Oliveira
I agree with you: evolution is inevitable, it is in the normal course of history ... but with evolution you/we always lose something, there are things that it is good to lose but there are also precious things, and you/we realize how much are worth when you/we have lost them forever.
The "folk movement" was born in the late 1960s to try to recover what history would have buried forever, the non-written culture of peasants. Since the 19th century some literate and musicians understood the importance and, foreseeing the changes in the world, they collected what is now called "oral heritage".
In the 1900s, other researchers continued collecting under the pressure of evidence that changes were taking place (Béla Bartok, Jean-Michel Guilcher, Alan Lomax, Diego Carpitella, Michel Giacometti, ... just to name a few).
At the end of the 1960s, the "folk movement" continued on that path but, at some point in time, took different directions. Some continued searching, collecting, studying and spreading the "oral heritage" while others made it spectacular, others still exploited the commercial and political potential of "tradition" by manipulating it (often it is "invented tradition").
We were talking about evolution: now we can observe that in the last two centuries it has happened that "oral heritage" is no longer in the hands of those who had inherited it earlier, the same world and the same society that had generated it they do not exist anymore.
I am Italian, from the Venice region, and I live in Lombardy. In my 56 years of life I have seen change the landscape of northern Italy: the extent of cultivated land has been reduced a lot and many rural houses destroyed to leave the place to the "new"...and often were the peasants themselves to allow this. Now we realize what we've lost.
Returning to your video: my criticism was directed at the music you have picked and the probability that you do not know the difference between "Belfort" and a traditional air of rondeau of Gascony. Well, as a musician, composer and arranger, with an interest in folk music that began 40 years ago, I can tell you that "Belfort" is beautiful music, in 6/8 time, but not a rondeau air. For me there is the same difference between a Bach bourrée and a Bourbonnais bourrée, between a polonaise of Chopin and a Swedish polska...
Are you sure Les Zéoles' tune is an evolution of the rondeau? Or would not it be better to call it in another way?
All the musical compositions of the so-called "neo-trad movement" make me think of all the new buildings built in the countryside of the Po Valley where before were the ancient farms and lands to be cultivated, a material legacy disappeared forever.
Do we want to lose our immaterial "oral heritage" forever?
Friendly,
ciao!!
Gabriele Coltri
So those who dance Salsa really do not know they are dancing a rondeau. at least change the name, why call it rondeau? however, evolution is a slow change, yours is a radical change
Meravigliosi!
Dear Sara and Paulo. Please let's dance the dances of your coutry as you want. But as i''m from Gascogne, the land of Rondeau, it's a shame for me! Some wars can begin for less...I see here a mix beetween lindy ho and salsa, and i don't know what English cheese.... So, i invite you to learn the Rondeau, by Gascons teachers... Thank you!
Dear Lionel, as we see it, tradition is not an enclosed rigid being but rather something that drinks influences from its users, much like languages. We have indeed learned the Rondeau from Gascogne teachers and we love it, it's a beautiful dance. But this video is not an attempt to teach anyone nor it is stating anywhere is THE correct traditional way of dancing it. As the title shows, it's merely an improvisation with our own influences, that's all. It's actually a compliment you see lindy hop and salsa, as neither of us dances these styles.
We welcome different opinions, much like we welcome different dance expressions. Thank you for your comment!
Non, chez moi, en Gascogne, le Rondeau, ce n''est pas le bordel ! At first, dear Sara and Paulo, Belfort is written by two girls from Paris, very, very far from Gascogne. The North, you know, like quite everywhere, is different from the South...Then as i'm rather a pretty good dancer of Rondeau (from my region) and as i'm dancer in the main festival folks, i invite you to make your choregraphy for exemple, at first with Portuguese dances. Some vira or Repasseado for instance. There's a lot of possibilities .So, your could really serve your country, for sure and respect mine.. Thank you.
Forse bisogna ricordare a questi due che il rondeau si balla in coppie una dietro l'altra e queste varianti non servono a niente , ma solo a rompere le palle a chi balla dietro di loro, che poi sono le varianti che ti mettono nella scottish, riprese dalla salsa dallo swing ecc. non hanno inventato nulla , facile ballare da soli, ma in mezzo agli altri si prenderebbero solo dei vaffa....