Marvel rivals reminds me of that excitement I felt with OW back in 2016. It's about time a new hero shooter with as much potential as this comes out. Finally something new and exciting! Something OW hasn't been in years. Peoples need to understand that OW2 is still successful because it has no competition same with COD. Now Marvel Rivals is opening those doors and giving new options.
@@huntish3760you can’t be this slow, overwatch has had plenty of hero shooters come out that have flopped compared to it. Marvel rivals is the first game that has had a real chance to challenge the throne.
Yes Emongg, this is how you react. You do it way better than ACTUAL REACT CHANNELS. You give insight instead of just "oh cool" or something like that, you're doing great.
Agreed but like with Spiderman specifically, his skill ceiling seems really high. Probably one of the more complex characters (at least from the beta) so while I wanted that Spidey fantasy, I had to stick to easier/slower characters. Namor was probably the one that lined up best for me.
@ spidey wasn’t that difficult he’s got a combo that you use against smaller characters, then you just dive out and wait for re charge. Ranked tho would be a different story those top guys are ridiculous
@@kylesawkon4074 In Beta he is VERY hard to play in ranked (which is good). Even people like Necros died instantly the moment they made a decent mistake :)
i do not truely believe that someone that plays rivals would ever want to play ow2 because i am going the other way and i will never return to ow2 when rivals comes out tbh
@ like imagine playing rivals and having actual fun then going hey maybe ow2 will be like this! 😂 the pain you would put yourself through would be unbearable
I actually think making vharacter design from zero is way easier, you have way more liberties, you can just think about a kit and attatch the character later on, as seen with sigma, you can drastically evolve a design because you wanted change or you can even separate different aspects like they did with genji/hanzo, while doing pre established heroes you HAVE to make sure you pqy respect to their character while still making something unique
Ive loved ow all these years. There's sooo much ive loved and hated. It's been a big chunk of my gaming life. It's time to give something esle a try slightly similar. Rivals has me deeply excited.
It's not SO easy as opening a comic and taking a character, it is easier. They get to skip over establishing the foundation of a character sure. Still creating a character (especially a map) is a fuck ton of work, tell me they needed to make doctor strange a tank based on his comic books and it was so easy to make that portal lol. Seems a lot of work and creativity will be looked over just because it's based on Marvel. This probably reads way more serious and negative than I'm intending it to, I'm just saying it's not like they don't need to still do 95% of the same work other games do. They just get that little 5% of a head start sort of.
exactly what ive been saying, i feel like people discredit the creatives and artists for this game just cuz the ip and characters already exist 😭. theyre doing a great job and they deserve recognition for every little thing that makes up this gorgeous game.
@@rinrin.595 Yup, in some regards you could argue it's harder to satisfy people with already preconceived idea of how their favorite character should play
@@starbog1indeed and some people are already complaining about Hulk not ‘feeling’ like how Hulk is supposed to be. There is going to be so much pressure on the devs and how they handle certain characters
I mean most of the hero's kit in this game is determined before they even get started. Like it was pretty obvious Doctor strange was going to have that portal and it was pretty obvious that his ult was going to be the soul thing just like how it was obvious that Spider-Man was going to punch and climb walls and swing on webs. It's really not rocket science.
@@huntish3760please go look at a video of what it takes to make 1 character for a hero shooter. The amount of hours that have to be put in just to design the character let alone balance his kit and code it for it to work in game. It ain’t as simple as just slapping abilities onto a character and calling it a day
That's only because Paladins shit the bed, which Hi-Rez always continues to do. Instead of releasing with a good style/graphics, it looks ass. Instead of listening to the community hate card systems, they continue to push it. Instead of giving value, they give crappy expensive skins. Generally the characters are boring, it was made in the same year as Overwatch but has always fell short. Marvel Rivals on the other hand has succeeded in every aspect, from better character kits, to an enjoyable style (being able to mix different styles and textures cohesively) to the value in their skins ect and the foundation of how team comps work.
Your take on balance in Overwatch is what I've been waiting to hear for a long time. I wish more people could understand this. Imo, if the impossibility of balance exists and creates a vacuum of power then the game should prioritize fun jank over shifting metas.
I started playing overwatch 2 weeks ago because I was excited about marvel rivals and wanted to play something similar to prepare, ball and symmetra have been so much fun!
Destruction environment is actually kinda fun when you experience it lol, It came out at the same time as POE 2 sadly, but those 2 hit blizzard games in one day
HoTS was killed...by LOL and Dota 2....so there are killers out there. Rivals feels like a killer just based on OW2 missing out on simple updates that would change them. For 6 years i have been screaming for 3rd person so you can enjoy the skins.
HoTS released much later than those two who already had a established player base but I see your point, it wasn't directly killed by it's competitors, the core design of the game being braindead easy compared to the standard of skill expected in the MOBA genre made it impossible to compete in the first place It was always just seen as the youngest brother you give a disconnected controller to so he feels he's playing with the big boys. Simply can't convince chest players (esports/ultra competitive players) to swap over to play checkers
This is is the game that's gonna make or break overwatch. It's that simple. Either MS is gonna give a blank cheque to Blizzard after a few months to fully stock their art team again and pump out a few old school cinematics which inturn is gonna make the actual devs have to step up their game and stop pumping out heros that are just use redesigned abilities from other heroes, or Rivals is gonna take Overwatchs crown and while OW will still exist and be popular and played it'll be even more of a shadow of it's former self than it already is. So long as Rivals doesn't fall into the hole of putting balance over fun like Overwatch did to where every hero is micro updated to keep them in line, i can see it thriving. Sometimes characters being broken for a lil while is ok.
I don't see that last part happening, I see a snowball effect where everyone will initially don't mind the game being unbalanced for the first few months but as the huge chunk of annoying overwatch players, the tryhards/sweats, the wannabe pro players etc starts bitchin about the balancing cause they're losing or simply dislike the character it'll just have the problem with every other esports title. The only way that gets prevented is if esports doesn't exist for the game in the first place
One thing you hear the devs say a lot is “we’d like to do that eventually but it’s a lower priority.” Makes me think they need to staff up. What’s the point of selling out to activision or Microsoft or anybody if your budget is limited such that you can’t fix things or make obvious improvements.
I think Overwatch desperately needs that hero customization they scrapped. Why dota2 and league still going strong? Because 1 hero can be a lot more than 1 role, it's the fun of customizing your character. Go AD miss fortune or AP go carry or support. Different runes and stuff. Introduce the variety in games, not just playing the same thing over and over. I was so excited with the possibility. But now it's back to the same old crap.
I agree they need that back for PvE in general, for PvP I'm against that, on top of it being a personal bias that I (a LoL player) don't want the extra baggage of learning how to build or counter build for a shooter, the hero shooter community already had it with paladins, yet it was never favoured or even considered as a implementation to overwatch by its community. It would do a decent job of encouraging moba players to play OW but thats really all unless they create OW3 and make that its main gimmick
Literally no games like this are balanced. No hero shooter, no moba, no fighting game. None of them are truly "balanced" and anyone who doesnt realize that has not played enough games. And honestly something being fully "Balanced" isnt as interesting as you might think. It's cool to have objectively worse characters doing better in one game or another due to someone's skill.
I feel often by balance it means having a good "balacing act" of where metas and too good leaving no room for anything else is something ideally to be avoided.
In every ow post there’s always comments saying they can’t wait to stop playing ow and play marvel rivals but it always makes me laugh when they comment that under content about skins bc it’s implying it’s going to be better in marvel rivals but obviously they were going to have a battle pass and a rotating shop ( like every live service shooter 💀 ) also i wonder if the ppl complaining about heroes like rein genji widow mercy and kiriko getting more skins than heroes like bap venture lucio and torb are going to complain with marvel rivals too bc there’s no way rocket raccoon groot mantis and Adam warlock are going to have anywhere near the same amount of skins as spiderman Ironman Thor and captain American. I’m just so curious if ppl are going to be annoying about skins and prices like with ow or they’re going to justify it bc they hate ow so much 😂😂
The main problem is overwatch 2 hasn't justified it's £20 price tag for a gun skin. Or it's £10 price tag for a "mythic" skin that they keep nerfing. If Marvel Rivals continues to pump out decent content, multiple heros a season, multiple maps ect, and put amazing skins into the battlepass (bare in mind that a battlepasses main purpose is to keep players playing, not to make money) then people won't complain about skins. I really wish the better skins cost £10, but if they cost £20 MR has already shown how much quality and respect they put in their game comparing to Overwatch who has, in the last 2 years, have added 6 Heros, that's 3 a year. And 6 maps over 3 gamemodes. If Marvel Rivals could give 2/3 every few months or so, it will keep it constantly fresh. It will also single handedly force Blizz to install a pick/ban system similar to what MR has.
Good on them, looks like there are a lot of people who'd prefer that version of hero shooter, happy for them. I personally don't intend to play it, but I'll probably follow what they do out of curiosity. But I'm happy there are people who wants to go and that there is another stylized hero shooter on the market. Hope you have fun can't wait to see how they will handle the first 6 months/ 1 year (probably won't be hard to push more patches than OW did back then).
They WIll Bring People in. I was not able to play the Beta (Gosh I wanted.) I have good feelings. I wont Leave OW. Still want to say this. I Hope this video dosent become regret.
I hope Rivals takes a lot of ow players, i want ow to sunk a bit, ive been playing since the fucking ow1 beta, and still, i feel blizzard is shitting on us every damn second.
@@Truthforeals They think we will bother with profile icons, sprays and the occasional title that makes you grind the game like its a second job. Well we are not! See ya blizz in marvel rivals.
This game needs to work on its frame rate issues if it wants to compete with OverWatch. Genuinely, I'd say overwatch is one of the most optimized video games on the market.
so bored of ow nothing is fresh its only gotten more stale, loaded back up to check out classic watch and it felt so cringe it took them 2 years to re release the first game, uninstalled prob wont ever look back, rivals seems to be doing everything right if they keep it up and keep skin prices fair i could see the game thriving, will it kill ow 2 well you cant kill what is already dead
my idea or view in what balance is or should be in games like ow where they have so many characters is to NOT have 1 character that is so much better than the other characters, they should be at most strong but not overpowering any character. like in league of legends with ksante, that champion was mauga but on roids and had 10x times the dmg and survivability, that is not good balance. and you can make characters with really good kits but have slightly lower numbers/high skill ceiling, like genji in ow or zed from league where a literal dev said that they are intentionally making him worse than other characters because of how good his kit is, and i am sure every league player would agree with that. what tge overwatch dev team don't realise to this day is that balance should not be about winrate %, some character SHOULD be slightly worse because of their design or for the health of the game, for example mauga, his design is not good and he is bad for the health of the game, yet he is currently the best tank in the game.
Compltetely agree, overwatch has almost been out for a decade. If someone was going to try it chances are they would have by now. The amount of people that untinstall overwatch (me and my friends) will be signifcantly higher than those that try the game out.
@@Crayzyy i mean i added a lot of people in recent years playing ow 1 and ow2 ... and when i log now .. on 40 friends on my f list .. no ones play overwatch anymore ... if people think overwatc is not dead .. they are fucking insane
The part people miss is that WoW was a MASSIVE game with literally no real competition that even came close to their dominance. Overwatch has been DEAD for years already...Like it's ALREADY dead. This game doesn't have to kill it, just needs to be a fun replacement so we can stop fiddling with the corpse of an already dead game. Just like these days most MMO's will easily beat WoW's player count. Only reason WoW still makes so much money, is because their playerbase has brain damage and still pays $15 a month for whatever reason. Same with FF. Neither of those games is even remotely decent for todays age and still people pay. I love mmo's and would love a new/good one, but I'm also not gonna stay playing the utter shit of WoW or FF just because I don't have options lmfao. Not gonna support games that have clearly been screwing the player over for years at this point. Overwatch content on streams/youtube/player numbers have ALL gone massively downward. The game is no where near what it was in it's peak. These days killing OW does NOT take a lot of effort. Most games will eclipse their player count easily. Now if they RETAIN those numbers overtime is a different story. But even if they don't, it's not like OW gets more popular. It's only been losing players since OW2 announcement and has never gone back up since the first 1-2 months of that launching.
It'll be a fun game, but it'll be gone and forgotten by most in 1-2 years. Just like OW is today, completely irrelevant. Hero shooters are NOT a good genre. Mainly because these days everyone is about content creation, and they are the WORST spectator games on the planet. They make for horrible video content and horrible spectator experience and thus get way less views than majority of any other content basically. And obviously most people aren't successful making content, but they are still going to try. And games like these are not the ones to do it for majority of people. At least not these days.
Marvel rivals reminds me of that excitement I felt with OW back in 2016. It's about time a new hero shooter with as much potential as this comes out. Finally something new and exciting! Something OW hasn't been in years.
Peoples need to understand that OW2 is still successful because it has no competition same with COD. Now Marvel Rivals is opening those doors and giving new options.
Cod had Titanfall as competition but Activision bought the company and erase the game.
@@RILOVINCOAre you dumb? Or an idiot? Titanfall is owned by EA. Activision didn't buy them...serious misinformation.
@@RILOVINCORespawn is with EA, not Activision.
What a shocking revelation! A new game is more interesting and exciting than a game that came out 8 years ago!?!? No way!
@@huntish3760you can’t be this slow, overwatch has had plenty of hero shooters come out that have flopped compared to it. Marvel rivals is the first game that has had a real chance to challenge the throne.
I love how a significant portion of this video is explaining to people “it’s ok to play more than one game”
Yes Emongg, this is how you react. You do it way better than ACTUAL REACT CHANNELS. You give insight instead of just "oh cool" or something like that, you're doing great.
no its bad because there is more insight than there is raw reacting haha
@@wojciech9538 Well it says in the title, it's his perspective, he isn't just raw reacting.
No lmao it's good because it shows he's paying attention. Try it@@wojciech9538
@@umbralowl duh
i mean is it your first react u are watching lol ??? i watch a lot and they do good too ..
i actually love that emonggs doing react stuff now, most positive person in the community by far and so pleasant to watch
Rivals could be as big as fortnite if they play their cards right, spiderman alone bout to make them a billion off skins lol
Agreed but like with Spiderman specifically, his skill ceiling seems really high. Probably one of the more complex characters (at least from the beta) so while I wanted that Spidey fantasy, I had to stick to easier/slower characters. Namor was probably the one that lined up best for me.
@ spidey wasn’t that difficult he’s got a combo that you use against smaller characters, then you just dive out and wait for re charge. Ranked tho would be a different story those top guys are ridiculous
@@Kildain717 that wont stop some people i sucked with black panther but still had fun with him
@@kylesawkon4074 a good and bad spidey are night and day apart lol.
@@kylesawkon4074 In Beta he is VERY hard to play in ranked (which is good). Even people like Necros died instantly the moment they made a decent mistake :)
i do not truely believe that someone that plays rivals would ever want to play ow2 because i am going the other way and i will never return to ow2 when rivals comes out tbh
Agreed hahaha
@ like imagine playing rivals and having actual fun then going hey maybe ow2 will be like this! 😂 the pain you would put yourself through would be unbearable
im just happy we have another game like overwatch cause after 3k plus hours on overwatch i need somethin else cause ow is stagnet.
I actually think making vharacter design from zero is way easier, you have way more liberties, you can just think about a kit and attatch the character later on, as seen with sigma, you can drastically evolve a design because you wanted change or you can even separate different aspects like they did with genji/hanzo, while doing pre established heroes you HAVE to make sure you pqy respect to their character while still making something unique
Ive loved ow all these years. There's sooo much ive loved and hated. It's been a big chunk of my gaming life. It's time to give something esle a try slightly similar. Rivals has me deeply excited.
I feel the exact same way, I’m really excited to play this game
Emmong cementing himself in multiplayer game glory. This was a great reaction 👏👏
It's not SO easy as opening a comic and taking a character, it is easier. They get to skip over establishing the foundation of a character sure. Still creating a character (especially a map) is a fuck ton of work, tell me they needed to make doctor strange a tank based on his comic books and it was so easy to make that portal lol.
Seems a lot of work and creativity will be looked over just because it's based on Marvel. This probably reads way more serious and negative than I'm intending it to, I'm just saying it's not like they don't need to still do 95% of the same work other games do. They just get that little 5% of a head start sort of.
exactly what ive been saying, i feel like people discredit the creatives and artists for this game just cuz the ip and characters already exist 😭. theyre doing a great job and they deserve recognition for every little thing that makes up this gorgeous game.
@@rinrin.595 Yup, in some regards you could argue it's harder to satisfy people with already preconceived idea of how their favorite character should play
@@starbog1indeed and some people are already complaining about Hulk not ‘feeling’ like how Hulk is supposed to be. There is going to be so much pressure on the devs and how they handle certain characters
I mean most of the hero's kit in this game is determined before they even get started. Like it was pretty obvious Doctor strange was going to have that portal and it was pretty obvious that his ult was going to be the soul thing just like how it was obvious that Spider-Man was going to punch and climb walls and swing on webs. It's really not rocket science.
@@huntish3760please go look at a video of what it takes to make 1 character for a hero shooter. The amount of hours that have to be put in just to design the character let alone balance his kit and code it for it to work in game. It ain’t as simple as just slapping abilities onto a character and calling it a day
GuangGuang is the GOAT
The Marvel Dev updates so far have been so amazing
5:55 The only thing closest to OW2 specific genre right now is Marvel Rivals and Paladins, and Paladins is not even close to being a competitor.
That's only because Paladins shit the bed, which Hi-Rez always continues to do. Instead of releasing with a good style/graphics, it looks ass. Instead of listening to the community hate card systems, they continue to push it. Instead of giving value, they give crappy expensive skins. Generally the characters are boring, it was made in the same year as Overwatch but has always fell short. Marvel Rivals on the other hand has succeeded in every aspect, from better character kits, to an enjoyable style (being able to mix different styles and textures cohesively) to the value in their skins ect and the foundation of how team comps work.
Your take on balance in Overwatch is what I've been waiting to hear for a long time. I wish more people could understand this. Imo, if the impossibility of balance exists and creates a vacuum of power then the game should prioritize fun jank over shifting metas.
We can finally play a fun game
im praying that marvels will ignite a flame under ow2 forcing both to be better versions of themselves
I started playing overwatch 2 weeks ago because I was excited about marvel rivals and wanted to play something similar to prepare, ball and symmetra have been so much fun!
I am so excited for this game. Can’t wait to play as Jaff :3
Destruction environment is actually kinda fun when you experience it lol, It came out at the same time as POE 2 sadly, but those 2 hit blizzard games in one day
3:57 It's called the honeymoon phase of a game.
HoTS was killed...by LOL and Dota 2....so there are killers out there. Rivals feels like a killer just based on OW2 missing out on simple updates that would change them.
For 6 years i have been screaming for 3rd person so you can enjoy the skins.
HoTS released much later than those two who already had a established player base but I see your point, it wasn't directly killed by it's competitors, the core design of the game being braindead easy compared to the standard of skill expected in the MOBA genre made it impossible to compete in the first place
It was always just seen as the youngest brother you give a disconnected controller to so he feels he's playing with the big boys. Simply can't convince chest players (esports/ultra competitive players) to swap over to play checkers
This is is the game that's gonna make or break overwatch. It's that simple. Either MS is gonna give a blank cheque to Blizzard after a few months to fully stock their art team again and pump out a few old school cinematics which inturn is gonna make the actual devs have to step up their game and stop pumping out heros that are just use redesigned abilities from other heroes, or Rivals is gonna take Overwatchs crown and while OW will still exist and be popular and played it'll be even more of a shadow of it's former self than it already is. So long as Rivals doesn't fall into the hole of putting balance over fun like Overwatch did to where every hero is micro updated to keep them in line, i can see it thriving. Sometimes characters being broken for a lil while is ok.
I don't see that last part happening, I see a snowball effect where everyone will initially don't mind the game being unbalanced for the first few months but as the huge chunk of annoying overwatch players, the tryhards/sweats, the wannabe pro players etc starts bitchin about the balancing cause they're losing or simply dislike the character it'll just have the problem with every other esports title. The only way that gets prevented is if esports doesn't exist for the game in the first place
One thing you hear the devs say a lot is “we’d like to do that eventually but it’s a lower priority.” Makes me think they need to staff up. What’s the point of selling out to activision or Microsoft or anybody if your budget is limited such that you can’t fix things or make obvious improvements.
By the way SO MUCH stuff is bugged or broken on console. The game plays fine, but like everything on the periphery is terrible.
I like your take on things. You seem very reasonable.
Rivals is almost here!!
I think Overwatch desperately needs that hero customization they scrapped.
Why dota2 and league still going strong? Because 1 hero can be a lot more than 1 role, it's the fun of customizing your character. Go AD miss fortune or AP go carry or support. Different runes and stuff. Introduce the variety in games, not just playing the same thing over and over.
I was so excited with the possibility. But now it's back to the same old crap.
I agree they need that back for PvE in general, for PvP I'm against that, on top of it being a personal bias that I (a LoL player) don't want the extra baggage of learning how to build or counter build for a shooter, the hero shooter community already had it with paladins, yet it was never favoured or even considered as a implementation to overwatch by its community. It would do a decent job of encouraging moba players to play OW but thats really all unless they create OW3 and make that its main gimmick
Literally no games like this are balanced. No hero shooter, no moba, no fighting game. None of them are truly "balanced" and anyone who doesnt realize that has not played enough games. And honestly something being fully "Balanced" isnt as interesting as you might think. It's cool to have objectively worse characters doing better in one game or another due to someone's skill.
exactly!! balance isnt everything. i think metas are good and fun, as long as they dont overstay their welcome (looking at you ow1)
I feel often by balance it means having a good "balacing act" of where metas and too good leaving no room for anything else is something ideally to be avoided.
In every ow post there’s always comments saying they can’t wait to stop playing ow and play marvel rivals but it always makes me laugh when they comment that under content about skins bc it’s implying it’s going to be better in marvel rivals but obviously they were going to have a battle pass and a rotating shop ( like every live service shooter 💀 ) also i wonder if the ppl complaining about heroes like rein genji widow mercy and kiriko getting more skins than heroes like bap venture lucio and torb are going to complain with marvel rivals too bc there’s no way rocket raccoon groot mantis and Adam warlock are going to have anywhere near the same amount of skins as spiderman Ironman Thor and captain American. I’m just so curious if ppl are going to be annoying about skins and prices like with ow or they’re going to justify it bc they hate ow so much 😂😂
The main problem is overwatch 2 hasn't justified it's £20 price tag for a gun skin. Or it's £10 price tag for a "mythic" skin that they keep nerfing.
If Marvel Rivals continues to pump out decent content, multiple heros a season, multiple maps ect, and put amazing skins into the battlepass (bare in mind that a battlepasses main purpose is to keep players playing, not to make money) then people won't complain about skins. I really wish the better skins cost £10, but if they cost £20 MR has already shown how much quality and respect they put in their game comparing to Overwatch who has, in the last 2 years, have added 6 Heros, that's 3 a year. And 6 maps over 3 gamemodes.
If Marvel Rivals could give 2/3 every few months or so, it will keep it constantly fresh.
It will also single handedly force Blizz to install a pick/ban system similar to what MR has.
i still dont really sold with the 3rd person view... idk, hasnt play beta, lets see next december
Correct. I was a fortnite main. They just cut my main fortnite mode, so going all in on Marvel Rivals.
Good on them, looks like there are a lot of people who'd prefer that version of hero shooter, happy for them.
I personally don't intend to play it, but I'll probably follow what they do out of curiosity. But I'm happy there are people who wants to go and that there is another stylized hero shooter on the market. Hope you have fun can't wait to see how they will handle the first 6 months/ 1 year (probably won't be hard to push more patches than OW did back then).
After leaving overwatch two behind (since it left us all behind with its lies) it will be good to see Marvel money stomping all over it.
They WIll Bring People in.
I was not able to play the Beta (Gosh I wanted.)
I have good feelings. I wont Leave OW. Still want to say this.
I Hope this video dosent become regret.
Overwatch is going in the coffin and I’m excited
Yeah you cannot have perfect balance but buff the characters that are dominating yhe meta is not the way.
Tell that to ARCSYS
I hope Rivals takes a lot of ow players, i want ow to sunk a bit, ive been playing since the fucking ow1 beta, and still, i feel blizzard is shitting on us every damn second.
🤣🤣🤣 did they do something to your family
They took our free skins, that will not be forgiven.@@mrmasters2179
The events don’t even give free skins anymore. They about to find out once marvels drop.
@@Truthforeals They think we will bother with profile icons, sprays and the occasional title that makes you grind the game like its a second job. Well we are not! See ya blizz in marvel rivals.
@@mrmasters2179 yes actually
OW < Rivals.
This game needs to work on its frame rate issues if it wants to compete with OverWatch. Genuinely, I'd say overwatch is one of the most optimized video games on the market.
I haven't play this game but I'm not excited about it because it's third person and it's marvel
React to Dev 2
so bored of ow nothing is fresh its only gotten more stale, loaded back up to check out classic watch and it felt so cringe it took them 2 years to re release the first game, uninstalled prob wont ever look back, rivals seems to be doing everything right if they keep it up and keep skin prices fair i could see the game thriving, will it kill ow 2 well you cant kill what is already dead
Yes you cannot have perfect balance but your definition of balance is completely arbitrary
For ranked sure but social who cares make a bunch of op stuff
my idea or view in what balance is or should be in games like ow where they have so many characters is to NOT have 1 character that is so much better than the other characters, they should be at most strong but not overpowering any character.
like in league of legends with ksante, that champion was mauga but on roids and had 10x times the dmg and survivability, that is not good balance.
and you can make characters with really good kits but have slightly lower numbers/high skill ceiling, like genji in ow or zed from league where a literal dev said that they are intentionally making him worse than other characters because of how good his kit is, and i am sure every league player would agree with that.
what tge overwatch dev team don't realise to this day is that balance should not be about winrate %, some character SHOULD be slightly worse because of their design or for the health of the game, for example mauga, his design is not good and he is bad for the health of the game, yet he is currently the best tank in the game.
No one is going to play rivals then say "i should try overwatch" its over, Blizzard killed it
Compltetely agree, overwatch has almost been out for a decade. If someone was going to try it chances are they would have by now. The amount of people that untinstall overwatch (me and my friends) will be signifcantly higher than those that try the game out.
@@Crayzyy i mean i added a lot of people in recent years playing ow 1 and ow2 ... and when i log now .. on 40 friends on my f list .. no ones play overwatch anymore ... if people think overwatc is not dead .. they are fucking insane
DOA if you cant get 240fps on low settings
Imagine thinking that's the industry standard for a game to survive...
Just such a sad opinion
Lol you're poor
Officially the mayor of yapsville with this one
Overwatch 2 in shambles
Being an OW player nowadays is just sad...
Overwatch is dead
The part people miss is that WoW was a MASSIVE game with literally no real competition that even came close to their dominance.
Overwatch has been DEAD for years already...Like it's ALREADY dead. This game doesn't have to kill it, just needs to be a fun replacement so we can stop fiddling with the corpse of an already dead game. Just like these days most MMO's will easily beat WoW's player count. Only reason WoW still makes so much money, is because their playerbase has brain damage and still pays $15 a month for whatever reason. Same with FF. Neither of those games is even remotely decent for todays age and still people pay.
I love mmo's and would love a new/good one, but I'm also not gonna stay playing the utter shit of WoW or FF just because I don't have options lmfao. Not gonna support games that have clearly been screwing the player over for years at this point.
Overwatch content on streams/youtube/player numbers have ALL gone massively downward. The game is no where near what it was in it's peak. These days killing OW does NOT take a lot of effort. Most games will eclipse their player count easily. Now if they RETAIN those numbers overtime is a different story. But even if they don't, it's not like OW gets more popular. It's only been losing players since OW2 announcement and has never gone back up since the first 1-2 months of that launching.
It'll be a fun game, but it'll be gone and forgotten by most in 1-2 years. Just like OW is today, completely irrelevant.
Hero shooters are NOT a good genre. Mainly because these days everyone is about content creation, and they are the WORST spectator games on the planet.
They make for horrible video content and horrible spectator experience and thus get way less views than majority of any other content basically. And obviously most people aren't successful making content, but they are still going to try. And games like these are not the ones to do it for majority of people. At least not these days.