Well look... I have both (had)... IQ wise Samyang is a much better lens... But it fell down from my bag on the floor, 30cm height drop. And after that it started to give a front focus issue. Repair man said that it's impossible to fix because everything inside is made from plastic. My Sony though fell from a bar table once (1m) and still survived, despite having a visible dent on it.
Had the first version of the Samyang, great lens but I never used it that muh. Got a kid and now I need an 85mm again, I think I'll try the Sony. Smaller and lighter means much more to me than 1.4 vs 1.8. Usualy shoot portraits at F/2 -F/4 anyways.
1.4 vs 1.8....yes, is a bit less sharper,....but you should have put the Samyang also at 1.8 to see if it is equally sharp or sharper than the sony, at 1.8. Thank you for the review, I have the Samy at preorder...no idea when will be shipped.
usually, you are comparing the lenses with their maximum apertures and separately, with their maximum common aperture. For me, if you are paying for 1.4 lens you want to see performance on 1.4 aperture. Additionally, sharpness of the lens is way overrated these days. There is so much more :)
@@pawelmod3292 Yes, of course you must compare it at 1.4, but if you are comparing it with a lens that’s only f1.8. You must put it at equal aperture too. And I completely agree about the sharpness thing. I have seen a few German channels and they go through that too with many images.
@@pawelmod3292 It is, was my first 85, after a couple of years I got the Batís, and yeah… I much preferred the zeiss rendering over the Sony. I sold it and I regretted, I would like to get this samyang instead of rebuying the zeiss right now, in case I will not like it, then yes I will rebuy the zeiss batis .
Thanks so much for this video, I have seen your other video comparing sense but is the Sigma 85mm lens much better than these two? I photograph for my clinical work as a doctor, so lots of headshots and video too. I am working with a Sony a6300. thank you!
Thanks for the comment! In my opinion, the Sigma 85mm f/1.4 is the best 85mm you can buy, so that would always get my recommendation. I hope this helps!
Great video as usual Tom! I'm wondering if I got a bad copy. Mine had a yellow tint and lots of problems autofocusing... Problems that most people had with version 1 but not Mark II. I returned it because I was unwilling to part with my Sony 1.8, considering it autofocuses very well. My 135 and 35 (both rokinon series Ii) are phenomenal and I have you to thank for opening the world of Samyang optics to me!
Good job! Well, having a past as portrait photographer I can´t be without a fast 85 - it is my all-time favorite in fact… I have the Sigma 85 myself but between these two I should recommend the Samyang. That bokeh makes a lot of difference
I just compared my sony 85 1.8 vs my Tokina. Tokina seems slightly slower to acquire focus but there is less fringing and the bokeh balls are almost a perfect circle. I got footballs on my Sony 85 1.8.
@@TomCalton Thx. Yes I agree. I even tested it against the highly regarded Viltrox. I really like a lot of the Viltrox, but the Tokina took the cake on this one.
What a dilemma! I watch this video, as well as other comparative videos between the 85mm Samyang F1.4 II , the Sony 1.8 and the Sigma 1.4, every time I watch one I switch my preference for the next lens ;)... They have all so distinctly and cleary their pros and cons, that basically you can't really go wrong with either lens. If I was living off photography, I'd go for the Sigma no doubt. But I'm not, and so it is really not evident to make a decision because you move from one lens to the next one and you find pros/cons you clearly don't have with the other one...
Two reasons. Firstly, because I've already done that test (ruclips.net/video/ywCh0HqrtYs/видео.html). And second, because the Sony is a very popular choice of 85mm and they're both very similar in price range.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 *Samyang 85mm f/1.4 II vs. Sony 85mm f/1.8 Vergleich, Fokus auf Größe, Gewicht, Konstruktion und Anpassungsmöglichkeiten.* 01:14 *Sony ist kleiner und leichter, besteht aus Metall, während Samyang überwiegend aus Plastik besteht. Samyang fühlt sich etwas hohl an, hat jedoch bessere Wetterdichtigkeit und Anpassungsmöglichkeiten.* 01:43 *Beide Linsen haben reibungslosen manuellen Fokus, Samyang hat jedoch eine längere Drehung. Beide verdienen Punkte für Handhabung und Verarbeitungsqualität.* 02:37 *Preislich gibt es keinen großen Unterschied. Samyang ist etwas teurer, aber als f/1.4-Linse gut positioniert. Sony ist teurer, aber beide sind preislich attraktiv.* 03:49 *Autofokus funktioniert gut in guten Lichtverhältnissen, leicht verlangsamt in schlechten Lichtverhältnissen, jedoch ohne signifikante Jagd. Beide Linsen liefern scharfe Bilder in High-Speed-Modus.* 04:55 *Samyang gewinnt den Bokeh-Test mit größeren, weicheren Bokeh-Kreisen. Beide zeigen jedoch Focus Breathing. In Flare-Test schützt Sony besser gegen Geisterbilder.* 06:02 *Beide Linsen liefern hervorragende Porträts ohne Farbstiche. Samyang hat das Problem der Orange-Tönung in der Vorgängerversion behoben. Beide sind scharf, Sony ist minimal schärfer.* 07:40 *Samyang gewinnt knapp mit überlegener Bokeh-Qualität. Beide sind solide, aber die Wahl hängt von persönlichen Präferenzen ab: Samyang für Bokeh, Sony für kompaktere Größe und Metallbau.* Made with HARPA AI
Amazing! The video I was waiting for! Do you think f1.4 makes much difference in low light compared to f1.8? I am leaning towards Samyang for wide open and bokeh but Sony is giving me tough time in making decision. :D
The samyang right now is on sale here in the US for $651 with a coupon. Im currently using sony85mm 1.8 and i have nothing bad to say. My question is if theyre almost the same price which one would u prefer to get? Is samyang lenses good for video although im not yet doing any videos on my sonyA74. I havent own any f1.4 lenses so i dont know how to tell need help guys
I wonder if there is a huge bokeh difference between 85 1.4 and 135 1.8 in the normal shooting scenarios. Math is suggesting that it should be close, the difference would be of course the scene compression.
Another great video. Thank you Thomas. Samyang is starting to ask serious money for some of their lenses. For the 85mm range, perhaps a used Sigma might be a much better lens and value.
Thanks, appreciate the comment! Yeah, I agree, if you could get hold of a Sigma 85mm in good condition second hand then this would be the best option for anyone shopping on a budget
@@TomCalton Thank you Thomas. My cousin has a copy of the Sigma 85 f1.4 for Sony. I am going to borrow it from him for a few weeks. If I get the results I am looking for, I will go ahead and get one. I am getting the Sigma 85 and possibly the Samyang 135 f1.8 for a specific project. My Tamron 70-180 f2.8 although insanely sharp for a lens of this focal length does not give me the bokeh effect I am aiming for. My initial test images shot at f2.8 with the Tamron are fantastic. I think they will look even better with the Sigma/Samyang combo shot wide open. Dude your videos are so good. From talking ahead to test shots to your rating system, all first class. If I ever did a YT channel (not likely), I am going to copy you big time!!!
People think plastic = cheap/poor quality/cost cutting. When in actual fact most high quality plastic lenses like this are actually made from a composite material, which is not only strong and lightweight, but can be better when dealing with sudden changes in temperature - it doesn't expand and contract as much. The guys at Sigma told me a while back that their new lenses now favour this composite material because of this reason, plus others.
There is not correct or incorrect comparisons. You can compare your lens to potato if you want ;-) I enjoy the fact that Tom prepared such a video so I'm now happier sony 85mm 1.8 owner!
Well look... I have both (had)... IQ wise Samyang is a much better lens... But it fell down from my bag on the floor, 30cm height drop. And after that it started to give a front focus issue. Repair man said that it's impossible to fix because everything inside is made from plastic.
My Sony though fell from a bar table once (1m) and still survived, despite having a visible dent on it.
My fovorite model! I recently have purchased a used sony 85mm f1.8 and for the price I paid, I love it very much. worth every penny
Had the first version of the Samyang, great lens but I never used it that muh.
Got a kid and now I need an 85mm again, I think I'll try the Sony. Smaller and lighter means much more to me than 1.4 vs 1.8. Usualy shoot portraits at F/2 -F/4 anyways.
My Sony 85mm had a LOT of purple fringing, curious if the Samyang is better. Already have the phenomenal 135 f1.8, and it is utterly stunning.
I can’t find the Samyang 85 1.4 II for the price mentioned. Most places sell it for around £725-770 😢
Now Wex have dropped the price to around £650!!
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Soo in your opinion Wich one would to take Samyang or tokinA?
How can that gentleman concentrate working on the tube @ 6:07 with the lovely Georgia standing next to him 😂 cool shot Tom 👍🏻
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1.4 vs 1.8....yes, is a bit less sharper,....but you should have put the Samyang also at 1.8 to see if it is equally sharp or sharper than the sony, at 1.8. Thank you for the review, I have the Samy at preorder...no idea when will be shipped.
usually, you are comparing the lenses with their maximum apertures and separately, with their maximum common aperture. For me, if you are paying for 1.4 lens you want to see performance on 1.4 aperture. Additionally, sharpness of the lens is way overrated these days. There is so much more :)
@@pawelmod3292 Yes, of course you must compare it at 1.4, but if you are comparing it with a lens that’s only f1.8. You must put it at equal aperture too. And I completely agree about the sharpness thing. I have seen a few German channels and they go through that too with many images.
@@charruaporelmundo after all I didn't know that sony 85mm 1.8 is so sharp. I wish it would be even better made in G standard :)
@@pawelmod3292 It is, was my first 85, after a couple of years I got the Batís, and yeah… I much preferred the zeiss rendering over the Sony. I sold it and I regretted, I would like to get this samyang instead of rebuying the zeiss right now, in case I will not like it, then yes I will rebuy the zeiss batis .
Thanks so much for this video, I have seen your other video comparing sense but is the Sigma 85mm lens much better than these two? I photograph for my clinical work as a doctor, so lots of headshots and video too. I am working with a Sony a6300. thank you!
Thanks for the comment! In my opinion, the Sigma 85mm f/1.4 is the best 85mm you can buy, so that would always get my recommendation. I hope this helps!
Thanks so much Tom for your reply!
Great video as usual Tom! I'm wondering if I got a bad copy. Mine had a yellow tint and lots of problems autofocusing... Problems that most people had with version 1 but not Mark II. I returned it because I was unwilling to part with my Sony 1.8, considering it autofocuses very well. My 135 and 35 (both rokinon series Ii) are phenomenal and I have you to thank for opening the world of Samyang optics to me!
Thanks Dwight! That's a shame about the 85mm. But I'm glad you're enjoying the 35mm and 135mm! Thank you for your support ☺️
Good job! Well, having a past as portrait photographer I can´t be without a fast 85 - it is my all-time favorite in fact… I have the Sigma 85 myself but between these two I should recommend the Samyang. That bokeh makes a lot of difference
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Always great to see your comparisons. Interesting that Samyang catches up with the Quality. My 18mm is such a great lens.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching and commenting 🙂
Thank you very much man, seriously you helped a lot i started from 0 to 10.
You're welcome my friend - thanks for watching and commenting
Thanks for the video. I was waiting for this.
My pleasure! Hope you enjoyed it ☺️
@@TomCalton I love your channel and enjoy the comparisons. It helps make a decision.
I just compared my sony 85 1.8 vs my Tokina. Tokina seems slightly slower to acquire focus but there is less fringing and the bokeh balls are almost a perfect circle. I got footballs on my Sony 85 1.8.
The Tokina is HUGELY underated in my opinion. Really solid budget option
@@TomCalton Thx. Yes I agree. I even tested it against the highly regarded Viltrox. I really like a lot of the Viltrox, but the Tokina took the cake on this one.
What a dilemma! I watch this video, as well as other comparative videos between the 85mm Samyang F1.4 II , the Sony 1.8 and the Sigma 1.4, every time I watch one I switch my preference for the next lens ;)... They have all so distinctly and cleary their pros and cons, that basically you can't really go wrong with either lens. If I was living off photography, I'd go for the Sigma no doubt. But I'm not, and so it is really not evident to make a decision because you move from one lens to the next one and you find pros/cons you clearly don't have with the other one...
Is this recommended for canon eos r series??
Why isn’t this compared against the sigma 85 1.4? Would be a more equal test no?
Two reasons. Firstly, because I've already done that test (ruclips.net/video/ywCh0HqrtYs/видео.html). And second, because the Sony is a very popular choice of 85mm and they're both very similar in price range.
SUPERB review! Thanks again
Thanks brother! I hope you're well 😃
thanks for your review
Great video Tom! Glad to see that cast is gone from the mk2 , too bad I sold that lens to get the new Samyang 135 1.4 😂
Thanks Tristan - I hope you're well bud.
I recently bought the Samyang 135mm and absolutely love it 🤌
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 *Samyang 85mm f/1.4 II vs. Sony 85mm f/1.8 Vergleich, Fokus auf Größe, Gewicht, Konstruktion und Anpassungsmöglichkeiten.*
01:14 *Sony ist kleiner und leichter, besteht aus Metall, während Samyang überwiegend aus Plastik besteht. Samyang fühlt sich etwas hohl an, hat jedoch bessere Wetterdichtigkeit und Anpassungsmöglichkeiten.*
01:43 *Beide Linsen haben reibungslosen manuellen Fokus, Samyang hat jedoch eine längere Drehung. Beide verdienen Punkte für Handhabung und Verarbeitungsqualität.*
02:37 *Preislich gibt es keinen großen Unterschied. Samyang ist etwas teurer, aber als f/1.4-Linse gut positioniert. Sony ist teurer, aber beide sind preislich attraktiv.*
03:49 *Autofokus funktioniert gut in guten Lichtverhältnissen, leicht verlangsamt in schlechten Lichtverhältnissen, jedoch ohne signifikante Jagd. Beide Linsen liefern scharfe Bilder in High-Speed-Modus.*
04:55 *Samyang gewinnt den Bokeh-Test mit größeren, weicheren Bokeh-Kreisen. Beide zeigen jedoch Focus Breathing. In Flare-Test schützt Sony besser gegen Geisterbilder.*
06:02 *Beide Linsen liefern hervorragende Porträts ohne Farbstiche. Samyang hat das Problem der Orange-Tönung in der Vorgängerversion behoben. Beide sind scharf, Sony ist minimal schärfer.*
07:40 *Samyang gewinnt knapp mit überlegener Bokeh-Qualität. Beide sind solide, aber die Wahl hängt von persönlichen Präferenzen ab: Samyang für Bokeh, Sony für kompaktere Größe und Metallbau.*
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Should’ve tested both lens at 1.8
see how Samyang could catch that Sharpness on the Sony
Thanks !
Amazing! The video I was waiting for!
Do you think f1.4 makes much difference in low light compared to f1.8? I am leaning towards Samyang for wide open and bokeh but Sony is giving me tough time in making decision. :D
Thanks
Thanks for watching and the comment 🙂
The samyang right now is on sale here in the US for $651 with a coupon. Im currently using sony85mm 1.8 and i have nothing bad to say. My question is if theyre almost the same price which one would u prefer to get? Is samyang lenses good for video although im not yet doing any videos on my sonyA74. I havent own any f1.4 lenses so i dont know how to tell need help guys
The samyang bokeh is shockingly better than the sony, especially when viewed side by side in the video autofocus test
It's pretty crazy isn't it!?
@@TomCalton indeed
Thank you for this video
My pleasure! Thanks for watching and commenting 🙂
Love the colour rendering and micro contrast of the Samyang.
OMG f 1.4 is provide much more bokeh than f 1.8 lens, finally i got to know by this video , thank for this ♥
I wonder if there is a huge bokeh difference between 85 1.4 and 135 1.8 in the normal shooting scenarios. Math is suggesting that it should be close, the difference would be of course the scene compression.
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Another great video. Thank you Thomas.
Samyang is starting to ask serious money for some of their lenses. For the 85mm range, perhaps a used Sigma might be a much better lens and value.
Thanks, appreciate the comment! Yeah, I agree, if you could get hold of a Sigma 85mm in good condition second hand then this would be the best option for anyone shopping on a budget
@@TomCalton Thank you Thomas. My cousin has a copy of the Sigma 85 f1.4 for Sony. I am going to borrow it from him for a few weeks. If I get the results I am looking for, I will go ahead and get one.
I am getting the Sigma 85 and possibly the Samyang 135 f1.8 for a specific project. My Tamron 70-180 f2.8 although insanely sharp for a lens of this focal length does not give me the bokeh effect I am aiming for. My initial test images shot at f2.8 with the Tamron are fantastic. I think they will look even better with the Sigma/Samyang combo shot wide open.
Dude your videos are so good. From talking ahead to test shots to your rating system, all first class. If I ever did a YT channel (not likely), I am going to copy you big time!!!
I bought this lens last week, and had it for 3 days. It had huge green fringing. Then i delivered it back
Which lens did you buy? The Sony or the Samyang?
@@TomCalton Which lens did you buy? The Sony or the Samyang?
which one did you buy? the samyang one?
I don’t really get why people don’t like plastic. Cheaper, lighter, and more durable.
People think plastic = cheap/poor quality/cost cutting. When in actual fact most high quality plastic lenses like this are actually made from a composite material, which is not only strong and lightweight, but can be better when dealing with sudden changes in temperature - it doesn't expand and contract as much. The guys at Sigma told me a while back that their new lenses now favour this composite material because of this reason, plus others.
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The correct comparison is Samy 75 1.8 vs the Sony 85 1.8.
There is not correct or incorrect comparisons. You can compare your lens to potato if you want ;-)
I enjoy the fact that Tom prepared such a video so I'm now happier sony 85mm 1.8 owner!
@@pawelmod3292 he would probably award the potato full points for handling size and price, along with the other. makes no sense
Why do people prefer Sigma over samyang? Sigma fails to provide a good weather resistant sealing all over the camera body