BEHIND THE DROUGHT Part 2: Lake Powell Glen Canyon Dam Pipe Damage Colorado River Water Level UPDATE
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- In this second episode of “Behind the Drought”, we do a deep dive into one of the largest reclamation projects in the United States- LAKE POWELL. Bordering the upper and lower basin states of Utah and Arizona, the reservoir was created by the construction of the Glen Canyon Dam in 1964. Before the land was even a survey sight, the geologist who it later earned its namesake from, John Wesley Powell, issued a dire warning to western water managers. We'll explore several historic and modern topics involving the dam including its construction, environmental impact, and future sustainability. We'll look at some critical pipe damage that occurred in the spillways during the flooding of 1983. We will also look into how the project affected the Navajo who called this area home for thousands of years, and the broken promises that have left them with an ever dwindling water supply to this day.
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Sources / Credits:
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Photos: Glen Canyon Dam, Arizona, December 2019
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
2:01 Work Begins
3:57 Topped Off
4:51 John Wesley Powell
7:39 Glen Canyon History
8:39 Navajo and Dine
10:05 Water Negotiations
11:40 Rainbow Bridge
14:00 Water Level
14:38 Sandstone Leakage
15:39 Siltation
16:49 GCI Proposal
17:25 Earth First Crack
18:06 Hydropower
19:11 Water Supply Chain
19:51 Plumbing Problems
21:52 1983 Flood Damage
23:41 Page Intake
24:39 What's Next?
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This is Seriously a Channel that Deserves more attention.
Thank you we're just getting started here😀 Still not really sure which direction the channel is going but viewers like you will help let us know 👍
It really is! A must watch for anyone who watch the true inside of the water issue
Because of the demand on the Colorado river from California, it is impossible for either Lake Powell or Lake Mead to return to their former glory. One statistic really jumped out at me during this extremely rainy California season and that's the fact that southern California has been engineered to expel 80% of the rain water or run-off it receives through the flood control channels. Rather than focusing on its dependency on Mead, if California could store the majority of rainfall it receives, the demand on Mead would be significantly reduced. I live in So. Cal and watch these flood control channels bursting with water during rain events ....... helping rain water find the fastest way out to the ocean rather than being collected. Painful.
Great Idea California should push it's waste rain water into storage water management. Better Idea keeping the water than continuing to dump the water into the ocean.
That’s California for ya
Awesomeness!!!
This was absolutely fascinating! I didn't even know about Lake Powell or Glen Canyon Dam until last year. What a fascinating history lesson! This was like watching a PBS documentary. It was so well put together.
Awesome I'm glad you enjoyed it! 👍 It really is a beautiful area, that whole part of the country we could explore for months. We've visited Lake Powell and much of the surroundings, but even I did not know most of the information in the video either... so we are all learning!😊
@@mojo.adventures I loved learning about all that. I would definitely watch this if it were on regular TV. So professionally done!!
Thank you! Vegas PBS has a great show we watch all the time called "Outdoor Nevada" (I think it's on RUclips here also) we really enjoy that host and his travels, so it may have unknowingly influenced my content 😂👍
Thank you for telling us the truth. This has been a huge secret for a long time. They need to take down the dams. Dams are one of the worlds worst ecological disasters of all times. Just the fish, not being able to get upstream, sets into motion, the break down of EVERYTHING! It snowballs from there. Dams were made to starve out the Native American People. Starve and flood them out. Their houses are made of stone and clay. Water erases them pretty quickly. I've been researching man-made lakes and can prove there were dwellings and whole cities, under these lakes. Mead, Powell, Almanore, Folsom, Oroville, Mountain Meadows, Honey Lake, Shasta, the list goes on and on. Look around on Google Earth. Native American settlements are destroyed. The scars on the land, do not lie. We can see the results of taking out the dams, with the Klamath River. Nature comes back, very quickly. We do not need hydroelectric dams and never needed to cut off whole river systems, to get the water to turn the turbines. Fish ladders were a joke too.
Thank you sir for making this.
Of course! Thank you for watching and dropping a comment✌
I was a new comer to CO from Ohio living on Lake Erie and being a boater. In 1966 , I rented a small houseboat and enjoyed Powell as a dream. I continued until the 80's buying a boat to enjoy the shoreline, fishing, and beauty. I see the problem as the western states depending on the CO river flow but like filling your bathtub, if the drain is open; it will never fill up. Politics as usual. Great presentation 25:43
Oh I can imagine, Ohio native myself! Boating on Powell coming from the east would be like another planet, seriously. All those smooth twisted canyons and bare vistas. Except I got trashed-up neglected Lake Mead, instead of beautiful Navajo sandstone Powell. Still love it in there though, mainly the surrounding park and wilderness of the canyon outside "the lake". Would enjoy boating on Powell also, or kayaking rather. And yeah you nailed it... too much reliance downstream on Powell, drought or not. The upper basin can contain and maintain itself, it's more responsible. The west and southwest have run a party for the last 100 years on the Colorado River supply thinking it's endless because they relied on outdated calculations the whole time. They should have planned to conserve from the beginning, not the opposite! Thank you for watching and dropping a comment 👍
This presentation is far and above anything that I would have put at 10* --- this is an overwhelming 60* with all of the research, presentation, and backstory of the whole watershed and population's there-around. Attaboys can't even be considered as that ranges in the 100,000s - 1,000,000 ... (!).
Well thank you kindly Sir, I had no idea it was in that range at all. I'm quite impressed myself actually! 😎 Appreciate you watching and commenting 👍 Tried to get the whole story in there for the viewers
hello, my name is Sal, I'm a 63 year old male. Just wanted to say, i stumbled into this content of yours, and yes ,I find it like a PBS show. I enjoyed it very much, heck, i dont know if all of this is true or not, but if a person wanted to check facts, they sure could, im not trying to insult or say, i dont believe you. what im trying to do is thank you, and give you great praise for your imformation. Im sure i must sound like a real rube, but look into sharing this with your PBS stations locally. i enjoyed it so much. i live in fresno, california. again thanks, good luck, and i will look foward to more
Hi there Sal, welcome to the channel and thank you for checking out the video! Glad to hear you enjoyed it 👍 I watch a lot of Vegas PBS and History channel also, so that may influence my video editing 😎 We aim to get all the facts right in these videos, but If I ever do get something wrong I put corrections in the "pinned comment" at the top. Many times our viewers have more knowledge on certain subjects and they will correct us, which is what I love about this platform. We are just getting started on RUclips so there will be much more content to come!
You have really outdone yourself on this one! Love the research, the truth of man's overreach in everything. Having known for decades this was coming, the biggest culprit is not blaming the drought and climate change that mainstream media likes to hide behind. Instead it has long been a full on mismanagement of this precious resource. We have taken it for granted way too long. This is a lesson learned the hard way.
Here is the closing sentence I am using in my next Water Watch article.
Brad Udall, summed it up, “To think that the reservoirs will refill is a “leap of faith I don’t have. The last 23 years are the best lessons we have right now, and “they should scare the pants off people.”
Keep on, keeping on what you are doing!
Thank you Martina! That is what I hope to illustrate with the video- mismanagement and a flawed scientific foundation are the key problems exposed in this drought. We can prepare for historic flood years by building dams everywhere, but ONLY if we prepare for historic drought and aridification at the same time, which we didn't. Even then we HAVE to admit we have no idea what the Earth is really going to do no matter how hard we try to bend it to our will. It seems the only constant in this whole situation is the "experts" than have been bought and paid for over the years to do the consulting. The worst part is, some parties still refuse to come to reality in the modern day and negotiate new standards for the stewardship of the river, Earth and our environment.
@@mojo.adventures Oh, boy do you might my work easy! I'm collecting notes for a March Water Watch here in Baja. This will be a quote with your permission.
I just learned what I have been concerned about for 2 decades about the water rights for Baja under a 1944 Treaty with the US. When the US decided to start storing water, they cut the river off from running into the Gulf of California! Mexico had 75 miles of the Colorado that ran into the Gulf of California! Can you imagine that? A country that doesn't care about taking someone elses water away? Oh ya, the same people cut off the Native Americans as you so clearly stated.
Our issue here is this protection by the Treaty that will also expire in 2026, if my informant is correct.
It is hard to witness the lack of interest here in Baja. Our farmers are actually selling the water to TJ rather than use it on their crops, they make more money with less effort. The Mexican people will always find their silver lining.
Keep on keeping on
Glad to hear it helps! 👍 Of course you are welcome to use any of the content, and thank you again for featuring the photo in the Gringo Gazette article. Great read! By all means get whatever information out you find compelling.
Oh it's no surprise the delta went dry after this all started. And what is MX supposed to do exactly... start a fight with the US over it? Our own state's can't even agree over the water! While they watch us fumble around in Afghanistan for the last 20+ years instead. There have been too many decades of hubris coming to roost. You know the only reason people hear the noise now is because it's creeping upstream into their towns and cities now. Even then, some still don't care as we see.
I like the thriftyness of the farmers... normally I'd say "that's supply and demand" but we're talking about our most precious resource, so in this case there should be some kind of regulation. Once food is gone from the shelves, then what? Imports only? Maybe the farmers move to TJ too?
Dear "Bodhi ",
People should look
at the graphs that
show the depletion
of water , over the last 2 (?)
decades. I haven't seen
the one for Lake Powell,
but I have seen the one
for Lake Mead.😢.
The Colorado River has
supplied SO much water!
70 % or more being taken
for agriculture.....
But over - population
must also be blamed
for the current crisis..
People seem to be
flocking to places in
the West, e.g.,
Las Vegas....
The construction
industry there
apparently doesn't
want enforced water
use restrictions.....
In one of the many regular
reports by the private
channel, " Vegas D tech " ,
a representative of the
Construction Industry
said that previous water
restrictions had
" damaged the economy",
and so they would not
want that again....
Recently ( this is Feb. 21,
2023, ) , " Vegas DTech "
showed a poster which
said that
Federal Restrictions
would be coming.....
I suppose that the local
authorities were assuming
all would be well : that Lakes
Mead and Powell would
recover, that Nature would
adjust itself , and it would be
" Business As Usual " ! 🐒.
If they had thought
about it all much sooner,
they might have initiated
the large scale construction
of solar panel arrays, plus
wind farms, to reduce reliance
on hydro electric power
from the dams....
I would think the sooner
Electricity production
by wind and solar can
be arranged , the water
supply could be protected,
for agriculture and
domestic use....☺️.
Apparently it would need
at least five really wet rainy
seasons in a row, to top up
Lakes Mead and Powell...
This seems unlikely....😢.
It will be interesting to see
what will actually be done....
I wish them well....🤔☺️...
Loved the documentary,
by the way ☺️.
Many thanks, and
Best Wishes from England.
🇬🇧☺️🇺🇲💦☺️🦉💦🇬🇧
@@rosemariemann1719 Thank you for watching and dropping a comment! You have many good points in your reply 👍 Several viewers in previous videos asked if I would do a water level update on Powell, thus inspiring this episode. We usually cover Lake Mead downstream but will be focusing on the entire Colorado River watershed in the future. Like you said... the Colorado has provided SO MUCH water over the decades and humans just demand more while ignoring the facts. I see you mention Vegas D-Tech- we enjoy his channel and lake coverage also. Great local info from him as well! Perhaps we will link up and do some type of collaboration in the future. Another good river/lake channel you may find interesting is "Dobrinich Channel" here on RUclips. He occasionally does a comparision of the TOTAL volume of water in the entire system, including Mead, Powell, and the other smaller reservoirs. I am glad to hear you have taken an interest in the subject, even being over in England, as many US residents still don't care much. As we can see, this isn't a local issue and the water resource situation is currently affecting all of Asia to a much worse degree too. The more info we all have, the better we can all respond to what happens next...
Wow... what a gift . Thank you
All I have to say is the amount of research, information, and the incredible presentation of this video is truly first rate! It wasn't even a thought to smash the LIKE button and subscribe to your channel. Looking forward to reviewing more of your videos and taking in some history.
We appreciate that SMASH😅 Welcome aboard and thank you for your support, we're new around here just getting started 👍
Love all the history on your channel. Keep it up!
Appreciate the support! 👍
Great documentary. Thankyou
Very good Video, a lot of effort you put in.
Welcome back Lissy thanks for watching! Yes this one took quite a bit of time to research and edit it started out about 6 mins long back in January, but once I started looking into the whole story I couldn't NOT cover everything I found
Excellent summary of historical and contemporary information and situations. Personally I would like to see the energy resource facet of the dam replaced by solar and wind. This leaves the water resource part of the equation which I think could be somewhat mitigated by more effective and comprehensive land use and development controls created and ENFORCED on the subject region(s). Thanks again.
Thanks for watching and good points! I too think solar in the southwest could easily replace and outpace the hydropower energy. That is, if the energy and it's credits STAY in the community that the solar arrays are in. Right now, some of it is being traded out of state and out of country while our own electric grid in the west has rolling blackouts during summer from overuse. Like you said, that leaves the water resource, the most important part for drinking and living! We should re-examine what is "essential" water use in the entire west/southwest until things improve at least.
Brilliant video. Well done!
Incredible DIY production quality. Wildly informative as well! Thanks for this video!
Appreciate that! Thank you for watching and leaving a comment 👍
I have learned so much from this video. It should be mandated viewing in all schools in the western states. Solutions could come from students who will live and flourish in that region. Its just like the governments money problems, not an in flow problem but an out flow problem.
Outstanding thank you for watching and great ideas! I'm sure some younger brighter minds could figure all this out easily. There is 100 years of water rights coming to a head right now and the people that have been abusing it all this time don't want to change the "status quo"
Very interesting video. I used to water ski Lake Powell, during the early 1980's. What a beautiful lake! One interesting tidbit about the Colorado River Basin is the fact that there are several diversion pipes and tunnels that take Colorado River water or from Colorado river water tributaries and divert the water from the West slope of the Rockies and redirect the water to the East slope of the Rockies. The Harold D. Roberts Tunnel may be the best known of these diversion projects: The Roberts Tunnel was built in 1952. If this water was not diverted, all the Colorado River reservoirs would have a lot more water.
It is a beautiful lake no doubt... like boating on mars with the red sandstone and towering rocks. The early 1980's were the "good old days" of both reservoirs it seems like. What a time that must have been to enjoy the landscape and solitude with less crowds and litter everywhere. Now both Mead and Powell are held in sort of a suspended decay... not empty, not full, not exactly maintained or cared for, just there for now. It would be better at this point if a solid decision was made one way or another.
Thank you for mentioning the CO diversion also... there is a lot of fascinating history and planning behind that whole project. I only learned of that last year! I touched on that in an earlier update from September after learning of it: ruclips.net/video/4lhxGyz_GkY/видео.html I'm still trying to examine all the modifications and uses of the river- from it's source to the delta. Once you look into 1 thing it uncovers 3 more, and so on all the way down the river in each state. Amazing there is anything left at this point...
Last season the Colorado River Basin received 101% of it's average precipitation (snow+rain+sleet+hail+any other form of precipitation). Over the past 4 seasons combined the Colorado River Basin has received 96% of it's average precipitation. (yet they call it a drought). Do you realize that last season Lake Mead received 132% of it's average inflow, yet the lake level dropped about 20 feet! This tells me the supply is not the problem, the demand is the problem. Too many straws in the drink! Too many people and agriculture concerns are sucking the Colorado River reservoirs dry! This season is delivering abundant rain and snow to the basin, most likely about 150% of the average. This will push the 5 year average to over 100% of the average! So much for a drought!
Thank you for those rainfall numbers! Lots of viewers are interested in the record breaking rain/snow amounts that have fallen since the New Years throughout the west. Many think it will have cured the last 20 years. And yes, you nailed it...too many straws in the drink! It doesn't matter if we have 5-10 more years of historic flooding, overuse/abuse downstream will continue to suck it dry... thus the title... "behind the drought" 👍
Great analogy about the " too many straws in the drink"
Thank you
Wonderful documentary, you should sell it! We traveled west last summer. The Colorado River looked like it was limping along. 🤕
Thank you appreciate that!👍Yes it's true the further south/west you go, the sadder the Colorado gets unfortunately.
I have been interested in the Colorado River since I studied these topics in college 50 years ago. I knew then, as Powell realized, that there would never be enough water to feed the development of the Western Region. I also realized the Eastern parts of the Country would be subsidizing this growth by providing the taxes to finance the Corps of Engineers and the Bureau of Land Managements' bureaucratic need for, like the cities around them, unlimited growth.
The abusers of the Colorado River Drainage are now realizing that they, no matter how much wheeling and dealing they do, their efforts do not create more water. The cities and the agricultural developments are going to have to learn how to live on less water. If this costs more then they can afford, they will have to go out of business. Even then their tears of rage will not fill Lake Powell.
Thank you for watching and commenting Greg! 👍 You brought up another angle of the issue we never even considered... the East "subsidizing" the growth through the COE and western land managers. We will definitely have too look a bit further into that. As far as "wheeling and dealing" I agree with you but I don't think they'll stop just yet... you may have seen reports of Wall Street buying up land on Colorado River near the source in Colorado State? It seems they are just going to divert and drain it right at the tap. No more waiting for it to make it to the export farms down in the desert!
Very well created video. Keep up the good work. You'll have a million subs 1 day
Appreciate you watching and taking a minute to comment! 👍 You know I wouldn't be opposed to that 😂 I'm not here for the viral stuff though, just more interested in getting information out because I didn't know any of this myself. People will be caught off guard if they aren't informed!
The idea of farming in THE DESERT is insane.
Agree but that is what we do at a cost not only to the River but to the water tables in these states
I saw a video about a Mud volcano in S CA that is moving.
Some say this is b/c the water table there has drop a good 100 or more ft.
What will happen there and in other parts of this nation and the world if we dont get control of the human pop is even worse then Climate change
Just look what the USSR did to the Caspi9an sea. it is less then 20% of what it was just 80 yr ago and getting smaller all the time
The flooded landscape behind Glenn Canyon dam has been permanently and forever changed and therefore impossible to restore with any amount of time. All efforts should be made to protect and preserve lake Powell and the dam even though it may have been a mistake in the first place. The boost in the economy for southern Utah towns and cities since the creation is incalculable and the devastating effects were it gone would be incalculable as well. This is now a much bigger issue than water. If power generation can pay for repairs and change then that should be the course of action going forward. Perhaps the engineers could figure out a way to force water from a new penstock from inside the structure out into the sediment and stir it up to outlets designed to carry some sediment downstream in mock floods.
I think more Development and more Population is not sustainable at the Moment, for that entire Colorado Region but for the People that live in that Region, all Efforts to conserve Water should be taken.
Climate change will rise the median Temperature of that Region and so goes up Evaporation.
There is no golden Way to counter that Temperature and Evaporation Rise but the best Way is Water Conservation.
I live in Germany and we have the same Problems with Water, not that severe than you guys, in a Desert Region but it getting worse every year.
And this is happens all over the World, North East China, North India or all of Europe, Turkey and so on.
What other can we do, than use less Water than we used to.
Very well said, agree with many of your points and thanks for adding your thoughts especially outside the situation looking in! You can see what is happening here in the states you would think if there was one thing everyone could agree on regardless of politics, religion, what is good music... you know all the important topics... it would be WATER. A clean, sustainable water supply should just be something all humans can put everything else aside to figure out together. But as you can see unfortunately some states would rather put up a fight over the usage than even come to the table. We often hear that we are experiencing aridification, not just a drought, and to expect that these changes will continue or increase. So like you say, it's not sustainable at the moment. It wasn't back then, and for a good 100 years we thought we had it figured out, but we didn't. So now we need to go back to square 1 and each region secure clean reliable water. If it's not there, than no more development until it is figured out. There is plenty of room in the southwest for more people and great open lands for clean energy projects, but they have to STOP selling the energy credits overseas and use it to power their own cities and regions instead. This is the same problems happening with the water from Powell being used to irrigate hay and alfalfa downstream bound for export. Thank you again for watching 👍
@@mojo.adventures Also thank you for your great Effort in that Video, i learned some things new.
Wow. My first time at lake powell was in 1966. I was 2 years old. I think we launched from a dirt road leading to it.
Went there for years as it filled. The last time? Launched out of Hite. It makes me sick that that is gone.
Wow, some of the first on the lake! People share stories and photos of being on the lake back then. Still so wild and empty... would make you feel like an early explorer poking around all the side canyons and barely seeing anyone else the whole time. Thank you for sharing!
The siltation issue seems solvable by a suction dredge. Here in SoCal they actually mine offshore sand deposits left there by interruptions in the littoral drift by jetties and manmade groins pushing the sand offshore out of the littoral drift. They move millions of cubic yards of sand on shore to replenish our beaches. The only problem I see is the siltation at this point is Glen Canyons siltation is the only thing keeping the water level above deadpool. Remove the silt and the water level drops with it. They need to fix the plumbing issues.
Good idea! 👍 Didn't even consider something like that. Interesting point also about the water level falling after dredging all the silt out. I will have to look into whether the USBR calculates the siltation into their water volume estimates or not. Thank you for watching and commenting!
John Wesley Powell, was a great explorer but stifled much of the discoveries made and dismisses any findings believed to precede the American Indians. Read The Ancient Giants who ruled America. Eye opening info about this land we live in. A little off the subject but more on who the Lake is named after.
Very interesting, thank you for that info I will check that out for sure! That type of stuff is right up my alley 😎 I have lots of plans in the future for this channel should we be lucky enough to continue, including episodes covering more taboo type historical material like that. One story you may have heard of here in Nevada is the red haired giants of Lovelock that supposedly terrorized and ate the ancient Paiute. I hope to make it up north in the future and see the actual cave. Another is the supposed Smithsonian Cave in the Grand Canyon that held artifacts from other civilizations. It is so vast there, you have to imagine much of the canyon is relatively unexplored and has sat undisturbed for thousands of years. Resource managers do very good job of keeping people "on the beaten path" around the Grand Canyon and of course out of respect for Navajo lands and boundaries, much of it is just plain unaccessable.
@@mojo.adventures Fantastic. The book I spoke of is definitely a must read for you. There is so much history that has been kept from us it astounds me. I do hope your channel continues. There is a ton of info in the book about Nevada and the caves that housed Giants. Your videos are great and I’ll keep a look out for more discoveries. Thanks…..yes there is a section of the book on red haired Giants. Also a blonde race on Catalina Island.
We has people here on earth are here to preserve the land as God's people. John Wesley Powell could of been on to something but who is to say because what if that would of backfired. The best thing will be to find just the right water supply that will pull steady flow that doesn't move with the tide but that can also be controlled through stead current that is going to be the right amount to steady out the bodies of water to make them and plentiful of water and the Colorado River again and correct any problems that they may have pulling out of the ocean it self pulling out of the reservoir in the ocean in California and figure out what is going on there and try to work it out with the state of California by dealing with the people that deal with the issue over there to fix the issue all around to figure out how to keep all of this water steady in flow and influctuation to steady the correct flow how long it will last because people need to drink water. It will have to be limited so that said we will have to do our part as humanity. So until that is done this may be the best fix. Ground water plays the biggest rule in this operation.
Well said! I have the same outlook after doing so much drought/resource research... Powell could have been right, but then again we could have a 100 year flood event next week, then Powell would be wrong after all. I think the point more is to see our continued hubris as modern humans, and for people to realize the experts they have counted all these years are many times wrong, taking a guess, or just plain bought and paid for. The Colorado would heal itself if we left it alone... of course, the way we've developed that's realistically not an option now *unless* we make breakthroughs in not only energy (fusion) but water filtration and distribution. California is definitely the sore thumb in this whole issue now. All the other basin states are growing frustrated with the resource managers there and their refusal to do anything. Decades of corruption and backroom deals are coming to light due to the drought... between them, politicians, irrigation districts, bottled water giants, etc. Let's hope it gets fixed before the people there are left with no water due to their leadership selling it all off for profit! Once Hoover hits deadpool everyone downstream goes dry. Thank you for watching and adding the thorough comment! 👍
Since kaliphonya won't do anything to manage water more responsibly, they shouldn't have access to the Colorado river.
It's clear to me that the Glen Canyon Dam shouldn't have been constructed to begin with, but now that it is there, is the damage already done? It seems the best outcome would be to minimize its use and engineer a way to allow the silt to flow downstream.
You and me both! When I started this journey I was vehemently against removing any infrastructre... now I'm starting to see the totality of the picture. Perhaps Hoover Dam should have sat at least 100 years as a case study before anything other major modifications were done to the river. If Glen Canyon Dam remains the piping and siltation problems are going to have to be addressed ASAP and not put off any longer as we've done. Thank you for watching and commenting!
80 % of the flood waters in CA drain into the ocean!?! WTH
An undisclosed sum
How did Page get away with that? Was it not a gov project (local gov) which would require the public to know the cost
I'm not sure if it was mostly funded privately by big donors, or if taxpayer money was used, but you raise an interesting point! I didn't consider that. I'll have to look further into that when more details are available.
@@mojo.adventures Yes even if it was mostly donor If even one penny came taxpayer $ then that penny is public knowledge
Isn't that area getting record amounts of rain right now?
Yep! We had a series of atmospheric rivers over the last 3 days dumping rain and snow all the way from the California coast across Nevada and up into Utah. Due to the outflows being sent to Mead though, Powell is still slowly losing water and around the same level it was back in June of 2023.
It is my belief that the native peoples must be included in any and all negotiations. Why water is withheld is problematic. It really comes down to money and control. One entity shouldn't be allowed to dictatr one over the other. If that attitude would continue, I believe that the damage be removed, and let the water run where it may.
Install nuclear power plants..use water from river to cool..seems pretty simple.
Glen Canyon Dam was made with the mindset of we know better than nature and we can build it to negate nature. The twin issues of porous cliff walls and sedimentation means this was never going to be a permanent solution. If allowed to fully fill with sediment, you would eventually have a river channel ending at the dam, then a river channel below, with zero water storage and zero hydropower production. The porous sandstone means lots and lots of water is lost, negating the concept of water storage. Glen canyon dam should be removed, or remodeled as a backup to Lake Mead. The Colorado needs to run warm and silty. Too thick to drink, too thin to farm.
Did you know that Washington State and that lake Mead's got a 64' hole in it it's been on there for 35 years or 30 years does wind turned down at the bottom when they went to the diver which was public record got a hole and that's why we're losing our water
I have not heard of that specific story but I do see people sometimes refer to the "3rd intake" at Lake Mead completed in 2015 as a hole in the bottom of the lake, which it technically is (er... well a pipe). Designed to pull city water even if the dam hits deadpool. I'm guessing you are talking about a natural hole or crack in the rock?
Washington state has a connection to Lake Mead?
💧💧💧I join forces with Edward:
“Original sin, the true original sin, is the blind destruction for the sake of greed of this natural paradise which lies all around us-if only we were worthy of it.”
- Edward Abbey, Desert Solitaire
Tear the dam down, release the river, make a new plan based on the reality of today. Man has made many mistakes along the way. Time to learn from this one.
We the people do not need "growth" at any cost. The cost now is too high.
We need to begin to live in harmony with the land, as the Native Americans always knew.
Living in harmony with the land is key, especially in the desert southwest. The growth at any cost (mainly profit for developers and the city leaders in their pockets) isn't sustainable without the infrastructure behind it. Infrastructure in many of these high growth places is a complete afterthought, to be worried about when the lots are all closed on and the developers are breaking ground elsewhere. It was only a matter of time before something ran out... the buyers who could afford all this, or the resources...
@@mojo.adventures It is certainly happening in broad daylight here in Baja. No infrastructure at all.
And it is not unusual for developers to create sites, collect their money and vanish before the problems are found. They find little help from governments who profit from the developments.
Still people believe their dream and do not do due diligence before buying.
In my Water Watch articles I often remind people that this is a "Buyer's Beware" market. I am not under any delusion that this warning will be heard.
I think the best but more expensive way to fix the issue is to build a temp dam behind Glen Canyon Dam and fix / refurbish and re-think a new Glen Canyon dam. Great video btw, loved it!
Great point! I just saw an operation like this being done in Europe. I'm sure everything will be based on cost in the end. Thank you for watching!
A feast of information is provided here. As a Caucasian I can rightfully sound off against my forefathers. Once again, getting everything they desired. These men of power (wealth) again ignoring most of the concerns of Native Americans. Literally casting them onto small useless plots of land they call Reservations. Who the hell do we think we are ?? It's shameful. For the foreseeable future having two giant reservoirs is not feasible. I'm no engineer or even play one on TV. But I think develop a type of diversion tunnel(s) using modern boring machines to protect against deadpool concerns. While a permanent solution is developed and universally accepted.
I appreciate you watching and commenting 👍 The more I researched this video, the more disheartening it got finding how much of the land, animals and people were exploited along the way to tame the west. The irony is, modern folks squashed in all the crowded western cities will suffer the same fate as the indigenous peoples when the resources run dry and they have to rely on big gov to feed and hydrate them.
@@mojo.adventures As the saying goes "what comes around goes around"
How do you like your wj?
The WJ is a great platform! Shhhh... 😎 still a bit of a sleeper 4x4 because everyone is buying up the XJ's lately! If you get the 4.0 not much to worry about ever. A bit gutless in the Grand, but it will run forever and then another 3 years. The V8 is much better power, tows great, nice offroad torque, but with their age you have to look for a well cared for one. The 4.7 got the better transmission also (5 speed / 545RFE). The V8's were dicey if they weren't maintained though... stuck hydraulic lifters, timing chain guide failures, warped heads when overheated etc. If you can find a V8 in good shape though they can run 250k+ miles. Either powertrain setup is good if it's in decent shape. Great family and roadtrip vehicles, great in the snow for winter, have good trunk space, comfortable, yet still small enough to hit the trails unlike the big, wide, heavy modern SUV's that replaced them!👍
@MOJO ADVENTURES 😂 I already have one. I've had mine for 4, almost 5 years. It's a 4.0 but I love it. Was planning to build it in to an overlander, but I think I'm going to buy a 4.7 and do that. Then keep this one as my DD. You're right about the transmission though the 42re isn't great. Mine is starting to slip but I have 250,000. I think I can squeeze it out for a while. I've got to do wheel bearing soon though😬.
@@grasm03 Oh shoot, should've started with that! 😂 You are probly familiar with all that already then. The Wrangler 4.0 has the same auto when I found one I ran a trans cooler up front, new fluid/filter, and fingers crossed it's been reliable so far. Around here it's all 4.7's and auto 4.0's for sale. I am always hunting for "mechanic specials" 🧐 We would love to fix up an XJ at some point!
No mention of the nuclear plant at Page?
Isn't "leakage" good for the water table?
Again, I'm just as suspicious about the "now you see it, now you don't", "rabbit out a hat" scenario, about the Lake Mead water's untimely disappearance and its mysterious reappearance in record time, and so are a lot of other unhappily bamboizled taxpayers!
CAN'T WE MANAGE PEOPLE'S MIGRATIONS?
They are still building in Vegas. Lots of new developments ie houses
Yes our city leaders don't like to mention that much. A fake island in Lake Las Vegas, and a new ultra exclusive "Reserve at Red Rock" where Bonnie Springs used to be. I'm sure the developers that sold these projects to the city planners as "low impact / water smart" between all the landscaping and fake water features the city planners are none the wiser. It's the same story... money and corruption.
@@mojo.adventures and when the $hit hits the fan all of those people will be jumping ship like the rats they are.
60 - 80% of all dambs in the USA should be removed , canal management is the true knowledge
Reclamation. Bureau Of Reclamation. The "Re" implies RE-claiming, getting back something you once had, and somehow lost. This never applied to these dams, these rivers, these lands. The very term, the very name of the bureau is a lie. An all too common short sighted, selfish grasping attitude, sugar coating thoughtlessness.
He also reported to the president that agriculture should not be considered west of the Mississippi River due to “inadequate rainfall”. 🤔🤔🙄
Why do we have to listen to that miserable and obviously redundant rock beat while at the same time, being soberly presented with an apparently important documentary, based on onerously crucial current events?
I'm not sure, I take a lot of time to caption my videos 🤷♂️ Thanks for suffering through that though!
With all the snow and rain the last last while it should be fine soon
I doubt it.
@@SDsailor7 the amount of water that has fallen in snow and rain over the last 2-3 months should raise lake mead mead almost 50 feet.. If The dams stay low then it is not Climate related, the governments are involved and are pushing the Climate Narrative.. At the start of last June lake Mead water levels should have been 11 feet higher then they were..
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Thanks for checking out the episode!✌️