What the media doesn't talk about: The Mexican and Black gangs that coexist and 'get along'. The media only wants to talk about the animosity between a few hispanic gangs (like Asusa13) that targeted blacks, and vise versa. They don't want to talk about Varrio Grape and Grape Street Watts Crips, and many others who coexist.
Much respect, Alonso. Grew up with your website (long before youtube). You make a big difference in awareness on these ignored subject of gangs, hoods, varrios, ect. Appreciate ya
When LA was safe (up to 1969/70), we used to party all over it! We walked, bussed or had a car. We used to HITCHIKE!!! What ya'll know bout hitchiking??? Thumb up, cmon, how far, let's rap! Right here, alright then.🎉 No money or nuthin for no gas. If they going straight down Western you hop out at Fatburgers at Jefferson. Street smarts at 14yo.
Props to all East Coast Crips, 1st 59st 62st 66st 68st 69st 76pl 89st 97st Q102st 118blc 190blc, Raymond Washington and Bunchy Carter from the L.A Panther R.i.p
Another great video Alonso, Big compliments on the delivery and presentation of the history of the gangs. Also great to see that you talk about the gangs in a respectful way without glorifying the gangster lifestyle.
Harlem was very influential nationwide. We have a street here in Chicago Harlem street but it had nothing to do with Harlem Mafia Vice Lords who later changed their names to Ebony Vice Lords but they named themselves after what was considered the black Mecca
You're the hood archaeologist. Good informative stuff. It's important to remember these things because they happened and are in some cases still happening. Thanks for sharing
@@imagesfromLA THEY TRYING COPY OUR STRENGTH LIKE THEY COPY EVERYTHING ELSE BUT THAT CANT BE DUPLICATED THEY WILL NEVER BE BUILD LIKE US CAUSE THEY NEVER HAD A PAST LIKE US.
@@Bobbybalboa735 Build like us? You seen gang documentary and gang shooting videos? The places you're likely talking about are destroyed with closed down businesses, betrayal no jobs. People killing each other like its nothing. Nobody wants to be there hell people who live in places like the poor areas of LA,Chicago,Compton, Queens, Brooklyn etc want to get the fuck out.
I still don't get how Original Swamp Crips are the oldest CRIP gang in Los Angeles, when the Crips started in L.A's east side and Crippin' didn't even reach Compton yet? Does he mean "the oldest gangs that became Crips...???"
also, this vid might be the most informative vid on the gang culture in L.A. that u have done. There is alot of Black History in this vid. Keep em coming.
I'm Gonna tag you on poppaharlems ig. Some real history in his page man. He hasn't been active for about a year now. Wonder if he's back inside. Who knows though. I believe he is a original... Thank you for all your vids. Much luv from San Antonio!!!!!!
+nicholas sanchez-potter I have asked for that too. We've seem a lot of clips from their main rival, the FruitTown Brims, but haven't seen a single interview from the Harlem 30s.
You were wrong about James Miller he wasn't born in Harlem New York.He was born & raised right here in Los Angeles California off the east side he has nothing to do with New York whatsoever so your information on that part was wrong Alex and you should have CORRECTED that a long time ago
As a kid I played with my neighbors outside. most of them African American. I am certain alot of kids from the hood experience this. Holding on to these sentiments allowed me to be never be blinded by hate. I love my community and I wish the best for it. "We need Black and Brown unity. Keep that jail shit out the community"
Alex, how about doing something on the deuces and tray Crip sets on the Westside of Los Angeles (Mid Town, West L.A. and tha Far Westside). There's a lot of history that date back to the 1960s down here that many don't know about due to the many, many years of gentrification. You got SYC, PBG, GGC, MFGC, MGC, BYHC, GYC & VSLC (including the history of the Sho Lines in the Mar Vista Gardens). You've touched on Venice a little bit by attending a community meeting and a Hood Day, but we never see nothing in depth on the Westside neighborhoods. One of the first gang injunctions in L.A. was on the Westside and some of the first black and latino beefs in L.A. began on this Westside. Everything you've done is about Watts, Compton and South Central, and even Long Beach. Give us a little shine!
West LA is different from the “Westside”. The west side is that which is west of Main Street in south LA. West LA is that which is west of La Brea - all the way to the beach. Called “deep west”
Some of the information on here is wrong, watch Kev Mac Videos to get a in-depth look into the history of the Cribs… Alfonso did a good job of giving you the basics, for the most part he is correct, James Miller was not from Harlem New York. Somebody before him was from Harlem and started the Harlem Godfathers, which turned into Harlem Crips, when they changed to Harlem Crips is when James Miller was the Leader. James was from East Los Angeles, his mother from Texas and father from Louisiana
Good video Alonzo!! Very informational. Not too many people new that about OSC. These videos are not to invoke gang violence. These videos are to educate and enlighten you on gang culture and history. My entire family including myself grew up in the heart of the swamps. Visalia Ave. My cousin did 16 years straight for the neighborhood! Just got out 1.5 years ago and is doing great!!!!!! Great video!!
Lil James started the 118 ECBC before the Harlem became Crips. The Grandees is the first Crips in Compton which is now Nutty Blocc. In fact the Harlems, Hoovers and Swamps were independent gangs before they were Crips. So how are they Originals?
+Al Snow Lil James did start 118 Street Crips, but that was about 1973. The Harlems are 1969, Hoovers were 1969 or 1970, and the Swamps started in the early 1960s. They are original because they formed before most others formed, infact the Harlems and the Swamps have "Original" in their gang name. If I did a top 15, I would have put 118th Street on that list but they are certainly not older that the Harlems or the Hoovers. Also they did not put "East Coast" on the 118 until about 1977 or 1978 as that came later.
I OVERSTOOD IT 2 BE HOOVAS WAS A CLUB...1964. CRIBS/CRIPS CAME OUT IN 19969...IN 1974 HOOVAS CAME OUT AS HOOVER CRIPS.1989 THEY DROPED THE CRIPS 2 BE CRIMINAALS
the first set to be founded out of the Original Eastside Crips is 43rd St Crips in 1969. two of the Originals BLACK JOHNNY & GANGSTER TIM both from Compton became founders along several homies from the area. 2 other Originals NUMBER ONE & ECKY who were always wit BJ & GT helped found 43rd Street but were never members. #TrueStory from MY LIFE as a 43rd St Original Baby Gangster. we evolved into Four Trey Gangster Crips in 1971. gespectfully; Triple OG Lo’Down $yndrome
@@danwebb3358we were founded in 1969 as 43rd Street Crips. we evolved as 43 Avalon Gangster Crips in 1971. we dropped Avalon in 1980 and presently stand today as 43 Gangster Crips
I noticed that 74 hoovers spread all over. I grew up in AZ and I that was the first LA gang blood or crip that I heard of. That was in the early 80's. I saw a documentary about Freeway Rick Ross and he was standing on Hoover st. I wonder were they the main ones going state to state with the dope.
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+Rob Johnson that's not true. its not common knowledge who's death they are blamed for. a lot of treachery occurred between 60's, grooves and tres...only certain ones understand how dangerous groovers are...
Venice Shoreline Crips is also one of the oldest Crips also. They were in the Oakwood area of Venice. They were Ghost town before Crips came out then because they were close to the beach they called themselves Shoreline. They were also the first black gang blood or Crip to fight a Mexican gang. They got along with each other but every now and then something would happen then they'd go to war in the 70s, 80s and 90s
Ayyyeeee Alex FINALLY you came to my neighborhood 42!!!AGC,43st,PlayBoy,41st,ect all by here glad you stopped by this is my childhood and even though its not the best place to be it was still my childhood Glad you stopped by.
Splendid work AGAIN Lonzo. If you ever need help with anything, let me know. I moved here to long beach and wouldn't mind helping you out with these vids
I thought the Hoover Criminals (with the exception of the 52 Hoover Gangster Crips) were an Independent gang that separated from the Crips in the 1990s.
+Dislike God Mr. Popo #Fuck Your Opinion They are, 5 duece Hoover is Criminal to. They just kept Gangster Crip in their name, because alot of top Ogs are from 52. But they roll Hoover first before anything. 51 troubles are basicly Hoover to. But they keep their 51 trouble Halldale name, but mash with 52 Hooves like blood brothers. Lol don't try to understand the land if your not from LA. It will not make any sense.
Theone andonly I’m originally from LA bruh. I grew up on 51st and Normandie. I know for a fact that the Hoovers are one of the most active hoods in the city. They got a shit ton of enemies and can hold their own regardless of that.
A correction to one of your comments about Bret Harte Jr. HS (as it was known back in the 1970's) ALL the EARLY CRIPS did not attend Bret Harte. ONLY the ones that were W/S Crips. Even though I lived on 52nd & Avalon, I caught the bus to Bret Harte all through the 7th and halfway to the 8th Grade since I previous lived on 95th and Main. Many Eastside's used to go to Bret Harte or Thomas Edison Jr. Half that were also early Crips.
+streetgangs i understand that but this is based off Cripping right ? So if this based on gangs before the Crips than the gangs in South Central are still older than the Gangs in Compton. Like their can't be Grandee Crips thats older than the original Eastside Crips which are now Eastcoast Crips.
+streetgangs But other than that,you did a good job just wanted a few things cleared up....Maybe you should do the 10 oldest gangs that Pre date Cripping & Blooding next"
@@357red9 as far as the word crip in 1971 my set started everybody else broke off in sets later on so basically 43GC was almost the first set to brake off on its on that's 2 years after Ray and tookies meeting 43GC was started by oringal eastside crip members under ray Ray aint get locked up to 74
Alonzo, I love all your gang documentaries. I've resided in L.A. County my whole life, however, i've never been involved in gangs, but growing up in a large metropolitan area like L.A. i've been expose to gang violence. One more thing, I love the historical facts that you provide within the mini documentaries. . keep up the awesome job..m
+streetgangs . I thoroughly enjoy your videos! Very well researched and informative. Could you tell me the largest Afro-American gangs in LA. For example the Rollin 60s...etc....Please. Could you please give estimates too. I would imagine the East Coast Crips, Rollin 60s, and Eight-Trey Gangster Crips. I am also doing my dissertation on American Gangs. Any and all info would be greatly appreciated! Thank you Alex!!
@ 11:18. I'd fuckin love to have a house as nice as those houses. There's definitely a big disparity between what constitutes a ghetto around the world and even within the US. Fuckin hell those properties are beautiful.
+streetgangs The XL8 is actually 48 gangsta crip ....they are all called 4 pacc......which includes 42 and 43 that's why they put the 2 and 3 inside the 8
Interesting review. How are you going to leave the Avalon Gangster Crips formerly Avalon Crips (primarily Avalon 5-Tray composed of us that were on 52nd and 53rd streets between McKinley Ave all the way to San Pedro Blvd. Don't know if I agree with your choices since I was actively Cripping in those days, went to Bret Harte Jr (HS) and Cripped with Kitchen Crips, Castle Crips, and Hoovers from 74 (Short Dog), 92 and 94 especially with Lil Rock and Crazy Rock. Where do you get your info from? Jamel Only became a CRIP to get help from the Walnuts (Michael and Kenny Bourgeois, Joe an John Humphreys, Gary and Terry Miller, Donald and Kenny Smith, Williams Scrutchins, Kenneth Short, Tony Billingsley, Kenneth Tillman and some others whom I know well back in the day whom was giving him grief and hard times. West Side Crips were not even established until 1971 when Tookie and Raymond combined. Mack Thomas was the Leader of the Compton Crips and establisher. Hoovers are not even Crips anymore and stopped being so a long time ago having went from the original Hoover Groovers to Hoover Crips to Hoover Criminals to Hoover Hustlers and back to the original title of Hoover Groovers (and they been flag gig Orange colors for years now). Who do you get your info from. I have yet to hear you say that all Bloods stem from Piru's whom at one time used to be Crips for a short while. I went to Locke HS and knew early Athens Park Bloods, Denver Lanes, Brims, Van Brims, Outlaws, Pueblos, lived on 84th and Main where the Swans were formed and knew them. Bounty Hunters, Crenshaw Mafia Bloods when they were in the young Stages, Pirus from Lueders Park and a host of others. Why was South Park and AGC, Not AVALON Gardens (since the AGC consist of 40's, 5-tray and 116)?
And where do u get your info from Pirus never claimed crip they was always Pirus Pirus Street Boys to West Side Pirus they last name never been crips player the Pirus was in Compton before crips OG Melly Mel from SBCC and many more will tell u that . AC Babalouie was a East side Crip then they shot his ass came to Compton met OOOG Puddin, LB,Tam, just to name a few Original Pirus then he turned Piru. Ain't no history of Pirus wearing blue rags saying cuz. Piru started the red and burgundy flag West Side Pirus. People tryna say West Side Brims started the red nope they use to wear blue rags Pirus never changed they colors always been red and later some Pirus rock burgundy OG Bartender started that
Bret Harte is a middle school bro and oh no wonder hoovers call each other groove makes sense hoover groovers! Grew up on 87 and Hoover, its rough over here.
+Demetrius Smith did you grow up around here? I'm still growing up down here just on the Vermont side, after a while you get use it and just call it home.
+Angel The Realest nah I grew up in inglewood off crenshaw but i had relatives that stayed on that side.. mainly in the eight treys tho... yeah of course this is home we all used to it lol
What the media doesn't talk about: The Mexican and Black gangs that coexist and 'get along'. The media only wants to talk about the animosity between a few hispanic gangs (like Asusa13) that targeted blacks, and vise versa. They don't want to talk about Varrio Grape and Grape Street Watts Crips, and many others who coexist.
VSLC and Venice 13 got along more than they war with each other. They even fought together some times
Much respect, Alonso. Grew up with your website (long before youtube).
You make a big difference in awareness on these ignored subject of gangs, hoods, varrios, ect. Appreciate ya
+B. O'Smiley thanks much for your support.
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make a top 10 blood gang list
+Branden Brown never
+OG Jenkins he did tho
Bro you skipped Grape St.Even thou I ain't from there.
Calicoe 313 they started as a Mexican/blacc gang bro...
holy smokes LA is huge af, this shit makes New York city look like a backyard.
Mid West and its more violent
New York is dense,LA is spread out
Yup LA is big land wise but new york is twice as populated yall cramped up
When LA was safe (up to 1969/70), we used to party all over it! We walked, bussed or had a car. We used to HITCHIKE!!!
What ya'll know bout hitchiking??? Thumb up, cmon, how far, let's rap! Right here, alright then.🎉
No money or nuthin for no gas. If they going straight down Western you hop out at Fatburgers at Jefferson.
Street smarts at 14yo.
You got HEART to go in all them hoods Family Peace and Success!
Contrary to popular belief these are all family oriented neighborhoods.
He a old head ain’t no body gonna bother him
Day time. Most gangs are more active at night
@@ariestrucker7832 for 1 gangs are active day or night...and for 2 this isnt the 90's anymore..things arent how you think they are..
Props to all East Coast Crips, 1st 59st 62st 66st 68st 69st 76pl 89st 97st Q102st 118blc 190blc, Raymond Washington and Bunchy Carter from the L.A Panther R.i.p
Another great video Alonso, Big compliments on the delivery and presentation of the history of the gangs. Also great to see that you talk about the gangs in a respectful way without glorifying the gangster lifestyle.
+sammyver9 i appreciate your comments
+Alex A. Alonso You're wlcome, keep em' coming
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I always always wondered about that Harlem thing. Very knowledgeable stuff. Good shit Streetgangs
Me too.
Harlem was very influential nationwide. We have a street here in Chicago Harlem street but it had nothing to do with Harlem Mafia Vice Lords who later changed their names to Ebony Vice Lords but they named themselves after what was considered the black Mecca
me to wow
+LivingDangerouslyDyingInfamously wow
How'd they get the name for the East Coast Crips?
You're the hood archaeologist. Good informative stuff. It's important to remember these things because they happened and are in some cases still happening. Thanks for sharing
The funniest thing about racist on the Internet is they actually take time to watch their so called enemies videos. that's word is called admiration.
It might have something to do with that old saying that goes, "keep your friends close to you, but keep your enemies even closer." Just saying.
@@imagesfromLA THEY TRYING COPY OUR STRENGTH LIKE THEY COPY EVERYTHING ELSE BUT THAT CANT BE DUPLICATED THEY WILL NEVER BE BUILD LIKE US CAUSE THEY NEVER HAD A PAST LIKE US.
They hate that they love us
@@Bobbybalboa735 Build like us? You seen gang documentary and gang shooting videos? The places you're likely talking about are destroyed with closed down businesses, betrayal no jobs. People killing each other like its nothing. Nobody wants to be there hell people who live in places like the poor areas of LA,Chicago,Compton, Queens, Brooklyn etc want to get the fuck out.
@@Bobbybalboa735 copy and wanna be like y'all lmao your oldest gang was from 1970 xD who's really copying who
This was the best series of vids you did imo.. There's been some great ones but these where excellent.
I still don't get how Original Swamp Crips are the oldest CRIP gang in Los Angeles, when the Crips started in L.A's east side and Crippin' didn't even reach Compton yet? Does he mean "the oldest gangs that became Crips...???"
He mean original swamp was around before the crips and Blood. Swamp boys was and independent gang before the crips and the blood.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Cheers from Brazil!
it's cool to see documentation of gang history without glorifying it's image and influence...
Facts
I really enjoy all your videos..very accurate and informative brother.... I lived in most of the hoods you mentioned...
also, this vid might be the most informative vid on the gang culture in L.A. that u have done. There is alot of Black History in this vid. Keep em coming.
+GENERAL RED (GRIMEYRED) thanks for that
***** don't forget about the NYC thing we spoke of.
Another One. Another One. Great job as always, thank you!
They don't want us to succeed
+Blue Chucks I appriciate that
I will most definitely check out that documentary. Thank you for these amazing post.
+George Perez yes,
+streetgangs hey are you going to interview or do videos on the harlem 30 crips
+streetgangs thanks for explaining why Harlem Crips use Harlem in their name... #NYtoLA
I'm
Gonna tag you on poppaharlems ig. Some real history in his page man. He hasn't been active for about a year now. Wonder if he's back inside. Who knows though. I believe he is a original... Thank you for all your vids. Much luv from San Antonio!!!!!!
+nicholas sanchez-potter I have asked for that too. We've seem a lot of clips from their main rival, the FruitTown Brims, but haven't seen a single interview from the Harlem 30s.
I grew up in LA and did not know all this info. Thanks bro.
Thank you for the knowledge.
Avalon Crip set is Legendary.
You were wrong about James Miller he wasn't born in Harlem New York.He was born & raised right here in Los Angeles California off the east side he has nothing to do with New York whatsoever so your information on that part was wrong Alex and you should have CORRECTED that a long time ago
Big facts
Oh well so what, we’ll take credit for Big James. He’s from New York now.
BODEKA GOOD SHIT bro, been waiting on part 2 for a minute lol
As a kid I played with my neighbors outside. most of them African American. I am certain alot of kids from the hood experience this. Holding on to these sentiments allowed me to be never be blinded by hate. I love my community and I wish the best for it. "We need Black and Brown unity. Keep that jail shit out the community"
White boys too fr
I swear to god man 18st is fucking everywhere in L.A.
18th is huge!
+Mawuli Ware Yeah, they're hung
+AntdezTV Is that right? Did they fall in line with Nortenos or what happened to them? Growing amount of Surenos in Oakland? Thx
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OK yea that is how it goes, who is making noise in Oakland right now?
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I'm surprised he hasn't interviewed any Harlems yet
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This documentary is so well made. You explained everything so well. I look forward to more
Alex, how about doing something on the deuces and tray Crip sets on the Westside of Los Angeles (Mid Town, West L.A. and tha Far Westside). There's a lot of history that date back to the 1960s down here that many don't know about due to the many, many years of gentrification. You got SYC, PBG, GGC, MFGC, MGC, BYHC, GYC & VSLC (including the history of the Sho Lines in the Mar Vista Gardens). You've touched on Venice a little bit by attending a community meeting and a Hood Day, but we never see nothing in depth on the Westside neighborhoods. One of the first gang injunctions in L.A. was on the Westside and some of the first black and latino beefs in L.A. began on this Westside. Everything you've done is about Watts, Compton and South Central, and even Long Beach. Give us a little shine!
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FACTS GGC is still active everywhere Cuz u need to holla at members of the gang and know if the active or not feel me
West LA is different from the “Westside”. The west side is that which is west of Main Street in south LA. West LA is that which is west of La Brea - all the way to the beach. Called “deep west”
great video series man keep em coming
Another great video keep them coming
Awesome video! Keep them coming 💯
Some of the information on here is wrong, watch Kev Mac Videos to get a in-depth look into the history of the Cribs… Alfonso did a good job of giving you the basics, for the most part he is correct, James Miller was not from Harlem New York. Somebody before him was from Harlem and started the Harlem Godfathers, which turned into Harlem Crips, when they changed to Harlem Crips is when James Miller was the Leader. James was from East Los Angeles, his mother from Texas and father from Louisiana
Outstanding work.
Good video Alonzo!! Very informational. Not too many people new that about OSC. These videos are not to invoke gang violence. These videos are to educate and enlighten you on gang culture and history. My entire family including myself grew up in the heart of the swamps. Visalia Ave. My cousin did 16 years straight for the neighborhood! Just got out 1.5 years ago and is doing great!!!!!! Great video!!
+Rashad Richardson thanks, hope your cousin is doing well, I bet he has a story to tell.
Original Westside crips were the underground,block,raymonds,shotguns,Watergate,Hoover's,neighborhood 111,Harlems,
Good Video. I like your channel. Lots of educational history of L.A streets gang.
Awesome video Alex!
+Juan Martinez appreciate your support.
Your welcome Alex! Great job.
I'm late, but I love these videos
We need the 10 oldest gangs in the city of Compton now Alonso
He forgot the Broadway sets,,112&52,,
Lil James started the 118 ECBC before the Harlem became Crips. The Grandees is the first Crips in Compton which is now Nutty Blocc. In fact the Harlems, Hoovers and Swamps were independent gangs before they were Crips. So how are they Originals?
+Al Snow Lil James did start 118 Street Crips, but that was about 1973. The Harlems are 1969, Hoovers were 1969 or 1970, and the Swamps started in the early 1960s. They are original because they formed before most others formed, infact the Harlems and the Swamps have "Original" in their gang name. If I did a top 15, I would have put 118th Street on that list but they are certainly not older that the Harlems or the Hoovers. Also they did not put "East Coast" on the 118 until about 1977 or 1978 as that came later.
I OVERSTOOD IT 2 BE HOOVAS WAS A CLUB...1964.
CRIBS/CRIPS CAME OUT IN 19969...IN 1974 HOOVAS CAME OUT AS HOOVER CRIPS.1989 THEY DROPED THE CRIPS 2 BE CRIMINAALS
You missed a lot of Hoover gangs
107 94 52 59
great vid bro
the first set to be founded out of the Original Eastside Crips is 43rd St Crips in 1969. two of the Originals BLACK JOHNNY & GANGSTER TIM both from Compton became founders along several homies from the area.
2 other Originals NUMBER ONE & ECKY who were always wit BJ & GT helped found 43rd Street but were never members. #TrueStory from MY LIFE as a 43rd St Original Baby Gangster. we evolved into Four Trey Gangster Crips in 1971.
gespectfully;
Triple OG Lo’Down $yndrome
They was Avalons first before the GC
43 and 53 both old af. Both were Avalons and 53 still rep that A.They should be in this list. Early 70s shh.m
@@danwebb3358we were founded in 1969 as 43rd Street Crips. we evolved as 43 Avalon Gangster Crips in 1971. we dropped Avalon in 1980 and presently stand today as 43 Gangster Crips
I noticed that 74 hoovers spread all over. I grew up in AZ and I that was the first LA gang blood or crip that I heard of. That was in the early 80's. I saw a documentary about Freeway Rick Ross and he was standing on Hoover st. I wonder were they the main ones going state to state with the dope.
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On 3:35 He didn't notice the 823 on the wall...just 2's an 3's.
Reading ancient hieroglyphs
too bad he didn't state why the majority of the groove line no longer function as crips...
well, can you please elaborate about it?
+Nevergiveup nope. I already know. it would be cool if he did it since he's reporting on it✌
yeah I thought he would say something.
+iotaken I think it's already common knowledge that they stopped claimin Crip in the 90's when most of their enemies were other Crips.
+Rob Johnson that's not true. its not common knowledge who's death they are blamed for. a lot of treachery occurred between 60's, grooves and tres...only certain ones understand how dangerous groovers are...
Stunningly well made - and fascinating.
more on harlem crip
I woulda thought rolling 60s crips would be mentioned but nice vid 👏🏽
+Ryan Martinez Why so?
+Ryan Martinez They are the biggest.
Ryan Martinez he never gang bang he don't no nothing
He mentioned Neighbor Hood Crips in part 1
A breakdown of the Neighborhood Rollin' Crips would be nice
Venice Shoreline Crips is also one of the oldest Crips also. They were in the Oakwood area of Venice. They were Ghost town before Crips came out then because they were close to the beach they called themselves Shoreline. They were also the first black gang blood or Crip to fight a Mexican gang. They got along with each other but every now and then something would happen then they'd go to war in the 70s, 80s and 90s
Weren't the Venice Shoreline Crips originally apart of the inglewood Crips in the 1970s?
@@michaelvitali9365 Thr Legend Crips in Inglewood was from the Shorelines
Why did you leave out 107 Hoover on the map?
If I ever work again and you decide to write a book, I'll buy it immediately. Your research is remarkable.
Great info
You should do a video of all the black gangs that pre date bloods & crips in L.A.
Ayyyeeee Alex FINALLY you came to my neighborhood 42!!!AGC,43st,PlayBoy,41st,ect all by here glad you stopped by this is my childhood and even though its not the best place to be it was still my childhood Glad you stopped by.
Next time hmu when you by here we can go to 41st park(Gilbert Lindsay) and smoke a couple.
Hell ya i come out to 4pacc 4 life oringal evil eastsiders
Splendid work AGAIN Lonzo. If you ever need help with anything, let me know. I moved here to long beach and wouldn't mind helping you out with these vids
+King B. James thanks for your support.
The Original Neighborhoods are from the EastSide 62 89 97
18s and 30s one love
I thought the Hoover Criminals (with the exception of the 52 Hoover Gangster Crips) were an Independent gang that separated from the Crips in the 1990s.
+Dislike God Mr. Popo #Fuck Your Opinion They are, 5 duece Hoover is Criminal to. They just kept Gangster Crip in their name, because alot of top Ogs are from 52. But they roll Hoover first before anything. 51 troubles are basicly Hoover to. But they keep their 51 trouble Halldale name, but mash with 52 Hooves like blood brothers. Lol don't try to understand the land if your not from LA. It will not make any sense.
+Dislike God Mr. Popo #Fuck Your Opinion true but some of them still say cuz tho.
+Theone andonly actually 52 ain't criminal their crips and always been and we will never change but your right tha H comes first
right
Theone andonly
I’m originally from LA bruh. I grew up on 51st and Normandie. I know for a fact that the Hoovers are one of the most active hoods in the city. They got a shit ton of enemies and can hold their own regardless of that.
A correction to one of your comments about Bret Harte Jr. HS (as it was known back in the 1970's) ALL the EARLY CRIPS did not attend Bret Harte. ONLY the ones that were W/S Crips. Even though I lived on 52nd & Avalon, I caught the bus to Bret Harte all through the 7th and halfway to the 8th Grade since I previous lived on 95th and Main. Many Eastside's used to go to Bret Harte or Thomas Edison Jr. Half that were also early Crips.
Maaan I remember hearing people say harlem crip back in 04 when I used to go to manual arts. Brings back memories
I love these videos I know you gotta be working on the oldest blood gangs now
+mroboiz cool story bro
You didn't name the Venice Shore Line Crips. One of the TOP 5 Original LA Crip Gangs!
New York ninjas gone say the Rollin 30's was photoshopped.
Bravo!!!! Nice work Alex. Hope the Pirus up first?
+bobbe norwood thanks for checking me out
+Alex A. Alonso Is Paybacc not in this list at all?
Man I used to walk to Jefferson Park everyday to play as a kid...between Denker Park and Jefferson Park everyday....it's crazy how it looks now
Didn't Rudy Ray Moore buy the dunbar at one point?
South Central LA has the most Crip gangs if I'm not mistaking in LA much respect to the original Bs & Cs
If the 43rd St Crips were the first to break off than how are the Crips in Compton older than them or Any Crips from the Eastside of South Central ?
because some of these gangs existed before Crips, like the Swamp Boys, they are a pre-Crip gangs, so are the Hoovers and so is Hat Gang.
+streetgangs
i understand that but this is based off Cripping right ? So if this based on gangs before the Crips than the gangs in South Central are still older than the Gangs in Compton.
Like their can't be Grandee Crips thats older than the original Eastside Crips which are now Eastcoast Crips.
+streetgangs
But other than that,you did a good job just wanted a few things cleared up....Maybe you should do the 10 oldest gangs that Pre date Cripping & Blooding next"
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@@357red9 as far as the word crip in 1971 my set started everybody else broke off in sets later on so basically 43GC was almost the first set to brake off on its on that's 2 years after Ray and tookies meeting 43GC was started by oringal eastside crip members under ray Ray aint get locked up to 74
Mann!! You just answer probably everybody’s question about the name “Harlem 30s”
Damn I couldn't have guessed number 1 in a 100 years!!!!
Ya im surprised the swamps are the oldest Crip gang too. But i still don't see how that's possible
F. Mazz. They not.
Ya and I don't get that either...really Swamps???
@@f.mazz.459 swamp boys.
My african american studies did tell us about the black panther shoot out
Are there more videos with the birds eye view of the boundaries of the gangs?
Alonzo, I love all your gang documentaries. I've resided in L.A. County my whole life, however, i've never been involved in gangs, but growing up in a large metropolitan area like L.A. i've been expose to gang violence. One more thing, I love the historical facts that you provide within the mini documentaries. . keep up the awesome job..m
+Nevergiveup thanks for your support.
+streetgangs . I thoroughly enjoy your videos! Very well researched and informative. Could you tell me the largest Afro-American gangs in LA. For example the Rollin 60s...etc....Please. Could you please give estimates too. I would imagine the East Coast Crips, Rollin 60s, and Eight-Trey Gangster Crips. I am also doing my dissertation on American Gangs. Any and all info would be greatly appreciated! Thank you Alex!!
This guy knows his stuff
@ 11:18. I'd fuckin love to have a house as nice as those houses. There's definitely a big disparity between what constitutes a ghetto around the world and even within the US. Fuckin hell those properties are beautiful.
ha yup
Thank you for more detailed insight. I'm a criminal justice student. Trying to perhaps understand origin, meaning.
What about shotgun crip when were they established thought they were part of the first first 12 hoods. That's what tookie says in his autobiography
Big James wasn't from Harlem
Why was the 107's missing from the Hovver portion?
Hey, Alonzo, the 43 gangsta graffiti along with 42nd includes 48th. 48th is fairly new but, yea. Thats why the 3 and 2 were inside of the 8.
+Elias Brown 4-Pacc
+Elias Brown 42/43/48 are all part of the 4-Pacc and that been around for some years now.
Ya we all look at each other as 1 we even fuck with the 41crip Mexicans that we share the park with Gilbert and Lindsay
Bret Harte is a Middle school not a Elementary
+brian martinez we know, misspoke
It's cool I just said that because I attended that middle school I live in 82 and Hoover its 18 st and Hoover turf...
+streetgangs The XL8 is actually 48 gangsta crip ....they are all called 4 pacc......which includes 42 and 43 that's why they put the 2 and 3 inside the 8
West side hoovas was third on this list and that includes those 107hoovers.
Interesting review. How are you going to leave the Avalon Gangster Crips formerly Avalon Crips (primarily Avalon 5-Tray composed of us that were on 52nd and 53rd streets between McKinley Ave all the way to San Pedro Blvd. Don't know if I agree with your choices since I was actively Cripping in those days, went to Bret Harte Jr (HS) and Cripped with Kitchen Crips, Castle Crips, and Hoovers from 74 (Short Dog), 92 and 94 especially with Lil Rock and Crazy Rock. Where do you get your info from? Jamel Only became a CRIP to get help from the Walnuts (Michael and Kenny Bourgeois, Joe an John Humphreys, Gary and Terry Miller, Donald and Kenny Smith, Williams Scrutchins, Kenneth Short, Tony Billingsley, Kenneth Tillman and some others whom I know well back in the day whom was giving him grief and hard times. West Side Crips were not even established until 1971 when Tookie and Raymond combined. Mack Thomas was the Leader of the Compton Crips and establisher. Hoovers are not even Crips anymore and stopped being so a long time ago having went from the original Hoover Groovers to Hoover Crips to Hoover Criminals to Hoover Hustlers and back to the original title of Hoover Groovers (and they been flag gig Orange colors for years now). Who do you get your info from. I have yet to hear you say that all Bloods stem from Piru's whom at one time used to be Crips for a short while. I went to Locke HS and knew early Athens Park Bloods, Denver Lanes, Brims, Van Brims, Outlaws, Pueblos, lived on 84th and Main where the Swans were formed and knew them. Bounty Hunters, Crenshaw Mafia Bloods when they were in the young Stages, Pirus from Lueders Park and a host of others. Why was South Park and AGC, Not AVALON Gardens (since the AGC consist of 40's, 5-tray and 116)?
He did the best he could people don't no to much bout SPGC I'm 43rd i no
And where do u get your info from Pirus never claimed crip they was always Pirus Pirus Street Boys to West Side Pirus they last name never been crips player the Pirus was in Compton before crips OG Melly Mel from SBCC and many more will tell u that . AC Babalouie was a East side Crip then they shot his ass came to Compton met OOOG Puddin, LB,Tam, just to name a few Original Pirus then he turned Piru. Ain't no history of Pirus wearing blue rags saying cuz. Piru started the red and burgundy flag West Side Pirus. People tryna say West Side Brims started the red nope they use to wear blue rags Pirus never changed they colors always been red and later some Pirus rock burgundy OG Bartender started that
how old is grape street Jordan downs?
They started as members from the Latino Watts Varrio Grape WVG and started crippin in the mid-1980's as watts Baby Loc Crips WBLC GSWC 103
What about PlayBoy Gangster Crips you need to check you're history
Hoover Joe and Tony Stacey talk about how they have never heard of Hoover Groovers or Hoovers themselves say that
Do one on wsgc in Gardena. Been around forever but no interviews.
Bret Harte is a middle school bro and oh no wonder hoovers call each other groove makes sense hoover groovers! Grew up on 87 and Hoover, its rough over here.
Yup my moms went to bret harte jh back in the 70s.. but yeah it's still rough over there fasho lol
+Demetrius Smith did you grow up around here? I'm still growing up down here just on the Vermont side, after a while you get use it and just call it home.
+Angel The Realest nah I grew up in inglewood off crenshaw but i had relatives that stayed on that side.. mainly in the eight treys tho... yeah of course this is home we all used to it lol
+Angel The Realest sorry I misspoke
I grew up on 80th and Hoover, back in the late 70's An 80's it was crazy back then. Truly the home of the body bag. Believe thay
Didn’t know rolling 30’s was The Godfather’s
NewYorkSWAGG100 I love Gang history
These are so interesting. Are you working on a Blood/Piru one?
Good video Alex. Whats the song that started playing at the beginning of the WS Swamp section?
@streetgangs... Thanks for explaining the origin of Harlem Crips name.... #NYtoLA
Gang every 3-4 blocks?? How do live there?
by living there.