She is correct. A family man’s time is freed up to further his career because his life partner is holding down the house in sacrifice to her own earnings. This is overlooked by many. 15 years of running a house and raising children missing out on six figures annually adds up.
@@marcusmaire8197 imo preventing a marriage from failing is better than dealing with the aftermath of a failed marriage and more conversations should be around on how to make a marriage work even in hard times like approaching it from a sense of duty also if the laws on divorce do not favour men in your country why is there not a focus on wanting to change them rather than complaining about it
@@batkorub I do not understand why you would think that does not make sense. Nor do I know what you mean by "family institution." But I am not sure that I need to understand that to address your statement. In the U.S., divorce and other domestic relations laws are defined by the state legislature. The legislators can change the law whenever they feel like it. The legislators occasionally make changes, but those changes are not as big as they probably should be. I think the reason that the changes are not too big is that there are political consequences for making changes that are too big.
@@batkorubThe point is that the wealth accumulated together was exactly that, accumulated together. Just because the man works, she has provided unpaid labor in the home. Cleaning, child rearing, cooking, shopping, keeping track of and organizing all the families affairs, etc. Her support allowed him to succeed that success while also getting to have a family. She deserves the money because of the role she played.
This is the same argument I've heard almost every woman make. It's what 80-90% of us are thinking. But most redpill podcasts like to focus on the crazies.
Women will make this stance, which is hard to disagree with. But in truth, it's the same argument that women make for abortions....they "need them for rape victims",when less than 5% of abortions are for rape and incest. Women file for divorce 90% of the time. Marriage is the only contract where one party is rewarded for breaking it. Turn this sh!t off, simps. Educate yourselves...
Maybe, maybe not. The fact that you think you know what people think inside their heads is funny. I watch Destiny and I think they agreed she wasn’t getting his money or half
I don’t think people realize a “prenup” doesn’t have to be cookie-cutter, and it doesn’t automatically mean the wife gets nothing. Anything can be contracted for, like percentage of what wife gets if he’s faithful/not faithful, percentage of her income relative to his before she had kids playing a role in the breakdown, divorcing two years in versus 15 years (sunset clause). The point is communicating with your spouse and dealing with reality and possibilities. Being able to communicate like that also doubles as a marriage skill. I’d rather negotiate my own prenup with my husband than have the State do it for me.
Indeed! Making a prenup is super important if any of the partners start a business, to prevent the other to be hit by potential creditors. What matters is what you write in the prenup, not the prenup itself.
Agreed. I honestly think a prenup or a marriage contract is also to protect the kids from any siblings or parents of the married couple. My husband and I (who didn’t have a prenup, but we will end up doing a marriage contract and will) will require for our children if they want to be involved in our businesses. And it’s not just about our kids, the shite my husband and I have been through with our families is Reddit level crazy and it’s not like it’s impossible one of our kids couldn’t get a head injury and turn into a different person, it’s to protect their spouse too. Not just my kids. It’s also to protect them all from both sides of our families. It’s not always about the couple. Id argue it’s only an amount. The more paperwork (will, pre nup, post nup, marriage contracts) saying exactly what the married couple expects the less their siblings can make the kids life hell as an adult when the people die. Believe me, I fully expect both sides of my husband and I’s family to come after our children for any wealth accumulated. It’s always spoken about like “in case of a divorce…” when it should be a bit more detailed than that. I’d argue a pre nup/marriage contract is more important for a stay at home mom because it would clearly outlines what happens if she gets left or she leaves him. Etc. And if the pre nup is in good faith, the man should still take care of her like the situation above. I’m also pro-women having a fall back plan, not because of divorce but because of death or terminal illness. A woman needs to be able to provide to a degree god forbid her husband dies prematurely or gets Ill. I’m in the financial services industry in one of my businesses, and life insurance is part of it. People do die early…
This. Everyone thinks a "prenup" is just an agreement that both parties don't split financials in the event of the marriage failing, but that's 100% not the case. You can make a prenup agreement for ensuring that 50% is split evenly and going over those assets ahead of time. You can make a prenup detailing custody of children, especially in the event of the death of your spouse. People don't realize that the point of a prenup is to supersede the legal precedents in place to protect both parties in the event of a failed marriage. This can prevent family members from attempting to circumvent wills if one of the prenup signors dies. It's not always about financials.
@@Nilruinif the prenup is written where it’s completely biased against a party, typically it gets thrown out too. So to prevent that, there are typically things given so it’s not completely one sides
As a woman in a marriage you’ll never not be giving something up. Even the bare minimum of birthing and raising a child sets you back in a way that most men will never experience. She deserves every cent she gets
So a woman should be paid for having a child then. Should a man deserve something if he catches his wife cheating then. As he gave his body and soul. Should there be compensation for his lost
But we are speaking about when a man leaves a women who hasn't done anything and only gave him a child and is now over the age of 35. This has brought down her chance to ever have a man again of high value because he, the successful guy, is looking for a younger woman with no kids and minimal sexual encounters. Regardless if this man is the only one she has been with her value not as a person but in a western man's eyes has been lowered due to the previous spouse asked for.
EXACTLY!! Why are people acting like women want a career because they don’t want to be provided for? No, it’s that they don’t wanna get screwed over and kicked out of the house and having nothing. It’s easier to have nothing as a man than a woman cause being on the street would be a different level of dangerous
You realise theres a disproprionate amount of homeless men relative to woman, right? You realise that is a reason woman live longer on average, because its not safe for men.
i kinda do want a career because i’m passionate about something though. not really thinking about my husband or future troubles in my marriage in any sense.
Keeping a home raising children is not easy it take a lot of time and effort… the time and effort the man/woman who is the provider is putting in their career. After a divorce the provider will keep her/his career but the parent raising the children and keeping the home will have nothing of their own and will have to make ends meet at 40s/50s without any experience or any marketable skills … so yes half of everything and alimony.
@@atharvaveda87 you word for word just took destiny's point like a mindless npc. There's nuance, and if we use common sense you would realize even single woman who are career driven in current day still don't make as much as men. Like if I dated a teacher who's max career earnings/yr would be 60k, and I was a doctor who had 500k/yr potential, she should not get half. It's common sense. Use your brain and stop copying destiny's point word for word you npc.
She is absolutely correct. I gave up everything to be a full-time mother and when I divorced my unfaithful husband I got 75%. He never wanted me to work
@@saraali1538 first of all your diction is atrocious. What you meant to say is how can you take 75%. Took sounds illiterate. I can take it easily because that’s what my solicitor got me and that’s what my ex-husband agreed to. Does that answer your question? My ex-husband was an underground crime figure and you don’t know shiiii from clay
It's because of robbers like you that a man needs a strong prenup. How do you justify taking 75% of someone's entire value just because he was stupid enough to marry you? Yes he cheated. That's bad. But 75%? And you call that justice... Hell no. Guys should really stay away from women.
@@nikkbronx Can you read? I didn’t say i cheated on him. He cheated on me f…fs. I was a faithful wife. I loved him. He gave me what I wanted out of guilt.
WAIT.She actually made sense?? Thats a breath of fresh air. P.s since i started a war i should make clear that I am talking about woman that get on these types of platforms that cant even properly make a sentence..i am saying something good about her... i guess some people will get triggered by anything.. get a life.
@JenGreen4141 exactly. They act like this woman is unique when this is pretty much the way all women feel. But they think she's "hot" so she's okay lol. She makes this same video in 10 years and she'll be called a fat ugly c%nt.
@@dontstalkmedeltoro8816 The problem is even though a lot of women are working now, if they get a divorce, they still want half. Marriage used to just mean you would love and be monogamous with your spouse. Now, marriage is a financial thing. “If we divorce I get half of your stuff” lol
yea well it all depends on what she means by "half" too. If you're a multi-millionaire she wouldn't be half of that if she had been unwed between then and now because if she did have credentials or some other seriously-minded potential then she would have seized on it. people don't get a master's degree in accounting, let's say, for nothing.
She didn't say why he would divorce.. She might have fked the mail man and now he wants a divorce. She wants to secure that she might take another 🍆 in the stay at home boring life with the kids. Still it's another way of a woman wanting a way out IF SHE FKS UP... Basically being rewarded for HER fking up by fking another 🍆.
This is blue pill ideology. Having children and being a mother is not a sacrifice. Its what she is literally designed to do. Just like working hard and providing is not a sacrifice. Its what your designed to do.
Prenup works multiple ways so even if you sacrifice years you can have your own prenup that accounts for those years so that you’re compensated accordingly. Prenup doesn’t just block someone from access to money if there’s a divorce but ensures access as well
💯 agreed ! I’ll sign the prenup happily as along as I am having a career and you don’t ask me to give it up for giving birth to kids and becoming a full time house wife and dump me later for a young hot girl after using me as a stepping stone to your success!
You do realize most marriages are broken by the women. Most men do not have the opportunity to step out and run around. That is something women have started doing these past 50 years. If a man doesn’t ask you to wear a ring there is no need for a prenup. And that is exactly what women are learning. Men no longer want to wife up a woman.
@@drmachinewerke1So why the constant nagging about marriage? If it wasn’t an issue topics like these wouldn’t be so big currently and people wouldn’t be making so much money on podcasts talking about it.
@@drmachinewerke1a man who asks for a prenup has the intention of dipping out when things don’t go his way. Marriage is a covenant. And cheating is the leading cause of divorce. Blaming only one party is childish. Either you’re dumb, or you want a dummy for a wife.
As a man who just lost everything to a woman who wanted to be a stay at home mom to raise kids instead of working, I DONT RESPECT THIS SHALLOW TAKE. This is the trap and the absolute case for a pre-nup.
Saying that she "sacrificed a career" to have children means she gave up something more important than a family. If a woman really wants children, then it's not a sacrifice. It's a reward. If she's only having children to make him happy, then _that's_ a sacrifice, but for all the wrong reasons.
You are an npc. She chose condition that would make her correct. But what if he divorces because she was caught in cheating? Why should share lol. You are just an npc who cant think
As a man with a wife at home this is a fair statement. She works as hard as I do and she’s raising our child, the most important job is hers, I support that with my career, 50/50
If the kids go to the mom first, you have failed as a man. The kids are your property and your responsibility. She should be the one teaching and bonding closer then you.
@@DaBlenda Why is it just the mother? Why such a lack of stay-at-home fathers? Because it’s been reinforced by sexist society. It’s just someone who wants to take easy while the other works their ass off, and it creates an unstable home environment most of the time. My mother and father both raised us (3) while working full time jobs. They both did equal parts in it, don’t you try to tell me it’s the woman’s responsibility to take care of the kids, it’s a job that needs to be shared. Who tf wants to grow up with one attentive parent and one neglecting parent. If one partner is fully reliant on the other, what you start to get is negative feelings brewing in one or the other party. You hear stay at home mothers complain about it all the time or the fathers in that situation.
The thing about prenups is that they’re customizable, so either you agree to the terms of the prenup that both parties agree to or you get whatever the court decides. A prenup doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re left with NOTHING. But it does prevent someone taking HALF of your possessions
Exactly, that's how it works. You fulfilled the guy's dream of a family to look good for other guys and you helped him focus on the career, you deserve half.
You will like the Barbie movie. Enjoy the good life. 🙋 Shoot, did I actually write this...!? Wait, I didn't see the movie, so I couldn't tell you anything really. This is odd!
@mike You carry & birth his offspring, he legacy’s, his name to live on… raise the kids, feed them, look after the house, be the maid & love him with loyalty, use your youth, most drop out of work. YES you deserve more then half ! It’s a life sacrifice
Don’t worry darling. God has a plan for you, just trust him and ask him anything you want. God will always be there for you. In my mother tongue they say “ntamvura idahita” this translates to “ every rain has time to stop” your problems will not always be there, just pray to God and trust him in the process.
Ppl have such a toxic view on prenups. It's just like a living will and you can design it however you want. The biggest reason you want a prenup is when you don't have one you turn over a divorce to a judge because marriage is a legal contractual document and if you have a prenup it avoids a judge and protects both parties from money hungry divorce lawyers that always make it worse. Look into prenups and understand you literally can design it however you want. It's not just 'what's mine is mine and what's your's is your's.' Aaaaand you can adjust the prenup whenever you want so with unexpected life changes happen you can update it. Sounds like a will doesn't it?
The prenup is to protect the man in case the wife decides to divorce her husband. In the preup, usually protect the wife if the husband decides to divorce the wife.
I don’t believe the man should have to pay his ex wife for years, millions etc or take half of his company that she never worked for, there should be a limit for her to find a job and start making her own way after they break up, adjusting to that new lifestyle. I’m referring to spousal support
that is if it really was for the protection of the woman however marriage is literally a contract enabling women to divorce thats why the divorce rate is around 75% initiated by women so the same argument doesnt apply. Never make a contract that inclines someone to break it.
@@dessertlimbo Shut up xD. Marriage is not a contract that someone is inclined to break... You realise for women and in 99% of cases, they are not going to get anything of value right? Like you guys talk as if 90% of men are wealthy when in actuality that is far from the case, most divorce cases - The woman gets nothing because there is nothing to actually take. Marriage is 100% for the protection of women because the whole point was that women didn't work and stayed at home with the children, so if their husbands left or died they would be able to keep houses, etc. As she said - If you want your wife to stop working and have kids/stay at home - Then you better be prepared to sacrifice half the shit because that is fair - She gave up a career so that you could build one, whilst she cared for a child/children. As for Divorce is started by women... you realise the statistics for divorces is miniscule comparatively so despite "75% of women starting divorce" its only about 15-20% of couples that are actually getting divorced. So its such a heavily favoured contract, yet women aren't breaking it anywhere near as much as people pretend they are.
Absolutely right, I stayed home with kids for 6 years, my career was over and I had to start from the bottom AGAIN !We shouldn't be punished for bringing in the next generation and the family. I would like to add I'm still happily married, but I've still had to restart career!!!
I definitely understand your position, and I'm sorry that you had to start from scratch, but men have learned their lesson over history about being completely screwed in every way from women and divorces. Men don't want to go in with everything and live with nothing, which is the case in so many of these divorces. Men have a right and necessity to protect themselves just as much as the next woman does.
@@hannahwalmer1124 Yes men do have the right to protect themselves and their assets, they also have a right to pick up some slack and help with their children and yet they rarely do until they get a lot older. Women sacrifice their time, dignity and potential for assets when a husband asks them to stay with the children, if he then decides to divorce she is left with no assets and livelihood. A good man won’t need a prenup
@@wyloetakitimu4375 If the woman insists on being a stay at home wife/mom, has known she wanted to have that role since she was young and was determined to find a man that would have allow her to be that, then, she knows (or should know), the risk going in. Nothing is stopping her from having a job or making her own money. The woman can step up and help out and now leave the husband stretched out thin just to support the household. A good woman would need a prenup.
@@dirtysilver2841 I don't know where the corporation argument comes from... I just feel entitled to the money i have earned, marriage is a contract AND a commitment.
People don’t seem to understand what a prenup is, they seem to think you either get half or nothing. Prenup can be negotiated in a way you get maintenance etc etc
I agree. I’m a stay at home mom. I haven’t worked in 8 years. If my husband were to leave me today I would be so screwed. I would need him to help me get on my feet and provide as he has been. Getting divorced would cost him more money in the long run. Good we have that off the table and work through everything.
It’s 2023! Being a parent is not a career get up and get a life of your own. Please don’t ever put your life in someone else hands. My uncle told my aunt years ago she couldn’t buy panties without him. He was right! With all do respect are you rising your girls to marry, have babies and depend on a man?
@@bryanbryan5214hey, it's 2023. We don't shame stay at home parents or working parents. Both groups are doing what they can, in the family dynamics that each have chosen. There is no right or wrong way so stop being a judgy hypocrite.
You setting yourself up for failure. You said it yourself you would be screwed . What if your husband died unexpectedly?even if I was a SAHM I would still work 1 weekend a month just to not leave the work force completely just in case something happen I could transition easily back into the work force without skipping a beat.
What some people don’t realize is you can also add stuff to your prenup to ensure you aren’t going to be left with nothing. Example: you can add infidelity clauses to it. If he/she steps out on the marriage they will pay, if they become abusive during the marriage they will pay. It’s not just a paper saying no matter what you get shit if we divorce.
Bring married seems like a booby trap. Those clauses added could backfire if a person chooses to get real nasty and lie especially during a divorce. Then it all comes down to who's a better manipulator and willing to bare through the torture longer. It's not worth giving someone that kind of power over me unless I had a large certainty that my partner is highly unlikely to be the vengeful type.
@@iihithereii to me that just sounds like two people who didn’t get to know each other prior to marriage. I think people who have those intentions after marriage had those intentions prior and during their marriage. Because if there was love at all during the marriage the individual who knows they messed up wouldn’t fight it because they know they hurt the person they were madly in love with. There are a number of celebrities that have clauses like these. Justin Timberlake added this to his prenup with Jessica Beil after being caught with another woman. It included a hefty pay (I believe it was everything he owns and custody of their kids). Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta Jones has a clause in their prenup as well regarding infidelity. And these couples are still married and madly in love. No I can see where an Amber heard would flip the script but let’s be real, she was selfish and in it for the fame to begin with and in the end lost.
@@alinonederlan7741 makes sense but I'm still giving someone too much legal power over me. I heard of a couple that got divorced because of their differences and he decided to sue for spousal distress. The thing is, most people really don't know themselves as much as they'd like to think they do, myself included.
Like I am 100% down to put a clause in for time spent child-rearing or whatever. Prenups are just what marriages originally were, contracts. Both parties agree to the terms and you can update it if you want. So my perspective is that you should do a prenup every regardless and if the two of you can't have the serious discussion and compromise necessary to write a prenup you shouldn't get married.
Until you look at the divorce stats and realize it's women leaving the men, not the man leaving the woman. In her hypothetical scenario in the argument, she'd be leaving with the kids and taking his money, not him leaving her.
@@illiji915i don’t think that matters. If you’re demanding someone quit their job to raise you alls family, they need income if there’s a divorce. You can’t leave them homeless because you’re heart broken
She said she wanted half. She never mentioned about whether or not she'd get taken care of. She said f*ck that I'm getting half. Prenups are usually are lot less friendly than community property laws.
Sure you can depending on whether she is a psychopath who spent 20 years living a lie or not. Maybe you haven't looked around but there is tons of females who get married and destroy their mans lives because they were snakes from the get go. Ever met a woman with BPD or NPD? That's what they do. Straight vampires. Will lie to you then take over your entire life until they suck you dry
Just keep in mind that most working moms are still held accountable for the bulk of the parenting, cooking and housework so make sure your worth isn’t undervalued no matter if you work outside the home or not
@@miscellaneousviewing7916 Not always... Trust me, I've seen it and live it. Also please think before you talk, how many hours does an average man spend working? Now consider that working moms generally work anywhere from 6-10 hours a day and then take on household responsibilities, then answer, who's doing more work at the end of the day? Your argument is an ignorant one to make TBH...
@@miscellaneousviewing7916 so what? Both are working and only one is doing extra family work. If the man is not the sole breadwinner. Responsibility needs to be shared.
@@krisl6537 Men too are normalizing staying at home and taking care of chores so wym?😂 It goes both ways in this conversation where men and women are doing each other's traditional tasks. You pulling out a strawman argument doesn't mean the majority of people. Google says 16 to 20% of women make more than their husband in income. Only 6% are sole breadwinners. You sound clouded and bitter due to your past and should honestly seek help. If your man wasn't traditional and wanted a traditional marriage then it just didn't work out. Do you wanna talk about how the percentage of divorce rates by women has skyrocketed? Bc that's something that's gone up to an insane percentage. That's something that women have changed themselves that they usually scoot around since it makes them all look bad. It's why men have also stopped dating to an alarming degree and are getting wives from overseas.
@@akira963214785 that's very true, and I didn't deny that at all. But I am, however, staying on topic, this comment reel is specifically about working moms that do more housework than their spouses. I also said not always. I don't know if you are just lost in the convo or what's even happening right now.
Men are most often the keepers of women’s labor. She is made dependent on him and could be left with nothing, no career or history. And all her time spent contributing to society in the most necessary way receiving no monetary value.
Agreed 100%. I would even say moms with 3 kids work harder than average working women. And yet, they get paid nothing. Only the "joy of being a mother" F**k that, we're taking half.
yeah and thats her point. if you do all that, you deserve a half. if you both agree that a woman will pursue her career, all house tasks should he split
I love how she uses the word.. sacrifice raising children !!! I was a single dad raising 3 children...never ever thought i sacrificed anything...how sad women have become...
@@illiji915 Well…. If she raised them bc he chose to always work then OF COURSE they would go live with her And bc her job was to raise the kids while so he could go make money she should get half by the argument that he wouldn’t have been able to go and make that much money if she hadn’t freed up his time! It’s not a raffle of it’s perfectly fucking reasonable
You and your partner can write your own terms and conditions in a prenup. It might be beneficial to have one, especially if you’re giving up a career to raise children. The prenup is a way of having a less messy divorce because things were set prior and agreed upon prior
It’s also not always about the couple getting a divorce? It’s also clearing things up to all other siblings and parents of the couple getting married and protecting their children from them…
@velvetthunder3856 EXACTLY 😂 lots of men who have such inflated self esteems thinking thier value men looking thus within "rights" to demand "value women". But like they can't really provide for themselves and would definitely not be physically attracted to themselves in any way if they were women. Yet they want someone who will be a trad wife WHILE also working and paying for half the bills. Like no sir. Reason traditional marriages semi work in other parts of the world is because husbands there are expected to be MEN/full providers thus making marriages more equal in partnership as opposed to 30/70. American men do NOT understand/conveniently want to ignore that part of the equation.
Yes. All the comments are clearly from people who have been burned, as was I - in my past. The right man will never make you doubt yourself, your marriage with him& his intentions with you as a provider for your whole family! I thank God daily for mine.
But if one party works a full time job but has to clean, cook, do laundry and watch over kids, they deserve to be compensated for that cause that’s a job too.
One of my successful uncle got divored by his wife and she wanted 50% of his assets, but funny enough, most of his money was not under his name and was in a trustee with ridiculous conditions 😅 She ended up only getting $5k from the divorce.
She totally nailed it, this concept needs to be explained to young people, as their are kids/young people that don't understand this concept of a woman sacrificing their career/future for taking care of the kids, and if divorce happens , they are supposed to expect nothing, no financial assistance, like taking care of kids is not hard work 😡.Taking care of children is the most difficult job and also woman don't just take care of the children they take care of the whole family including the husband, and in later life when their parents are in need of help, who is their , mostly their daughter
Taking care of kids is one of the easiest jobs there is. Stop talking bs. Most women will never have careers to beging with. A family is a future. Hope you never get married. The mindset you have is toxic to a marriage.
I agree with her 100%. The problem is when women cheat on the husband that works all the time to support her and her 3 kids and she takes half his shit anyways. That’s a massive flaw in the system.
@@masterpainb3ddy632yea but that seems to never work. They always argue that in court and make it the man’s fault for cheating and end up getting half.
that basically never happens bro wtf. Men are the ones who justify cheating by saying shit like "men were not made to be monogamous" and shit like that.
@@bangla_saabThat's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. She changed the question entirely, rewatch it, all she did was redirect it by saying "if a man flys her out to marry, begs her to marry him, and is asking her not to work so she could stay at home and raise the children" do you see how much she had to add on to the question just to make it reasonable. Yes anything you owned before marriage still belongs to you, that's like saying yeah you had both of your kidneys before we got married but now i deserve 1 of them.
To add to that if she decides to have a hot girl summer and throw away a marriage after having kids and being the traditional housewife. She shouldn’t get a single dime
You have a point, but how many women actually do that? Either side can have serious dealbreakers (or abuse etc) that they aren’t able to predict. And the assumption is always that the man wants to continue the relationship for the kids, that seems odd.
Looks like you're just as ignorant with no values as she is. You can't put a price on a loving marriage nor children. Saying you might theoreretically give up a career for marriage and family shows how shallow you both are.
Best answer ever, seen so many entitled guys wanting to let go off career of the woman ask her to give up her freedom and pretend like they would take care.
Good for her. I’m married now 15 years, 3 kids but my career is flourishing! I can survive on my own because my husband has prioritized my needs along with his. We have balance in our work and home lives together and I wouldn’t want it any other way!!
I’m a man who kept my wife home to raise the kids and take care of me while building my business and if somehow we get a divorce she deserves at least half!
@@peaceforall8970 big minority. Plus women zero accountability, I doubt she did nothing wrong. At least she ignored the signs when dating and just married him for a divorce payout. Ur friends a gold digger, passive aggressive
@0hleg nah this is the first time I've seen a woman online actually say what she said. Other times they just got mad and couldn't even give a real reason
I remember my patents fighting every single day for almost 10yrs but didn't divorce because my mom was a cleaning lady and couldn't live on her own. I don't want that fate for myself
All that means is that she didn’t leave because your father didn’t have a career despite her sacrifices. Thats why they were fighting. She sacrificed her goals to “become” a cleaning lady for your father to become NOTHING.
wow, then leave and get two jobs if needed to live on your own, there is option to leave, but stay its easier, so you and everyone have the option to leave, so if she stays its her fault dont blame other for your decisions
@@lynnerose7891 You nailed it. My father literally stopped working in 2007 and didn't work ever again until his retirement in 2018. He didn't clean, he didn't cook, he didn't do groceries. Every woman with more income would've left him. That's why my mother pushed me and my sister to finish university and establish independet lives, first.
True. If the man cheats on her when she's been loyal for years then she deserves half. But if she doesn't then she deserves nothing. That's how the court should always rule it.
Absolutely right and that's traditionally the reason the wife gets half. They didn't work and the man's earnings were the contribution to the family unit.
Most women get married and have kids at 28-30 well after college and be in mind the majority of wives make less than their husbands so this means nothing. Most men would be okay if the wife got 20% but not half because alot of the time it’s way more than half
You’d tell your lady, “let’s get married, I want a big family and I don’t want you to work so you can take care of the household” then you left. You’d say “my money”. That’s a ridiculous statement and you didn’t listen
@@tobiasmccallum9697 Don't get married to save yourself the trouble. Also, if you have a prenup try telling the government it's your money. I bet you thought giving money in a prenup was a choice, nope.. they take from your paychecks the same way Child Support does when you have a job. Good luck out there lol
While I agree with her…the prenup is also there so she doesn’t take advantage of him. Protecting his assets. He will lawfully and rightfully make sure he helps provide for the children. Nearly 70% of women file for divorce. In a lot of divorces a lot of men have to virtually start over.
These sorts of things can be spelled out in a…prenup. You can specify how much money she would get in a theoretical divorce by number of kids, responsibilities at home, length of marriage, etc. Her argument is a false one; not only do I want to not have to work, I want half of the assets, alimony and child support when I divorce you. Don’t fall for it. Work out ahead of time what you both can consider fair; if you can’t agree, then don’t marry her.
That is actually totally fair. I never thought about it in that way but it makes sense. She has sacrificed her ability to advance her career to raise your children, so if u get a divorce, she is screwed. Makes sense
@@loose505 Yeah but I was (obviously) referring to the fact that she is taking on the vast majority of the responsibilities in raising their kids. To do that she is sacrificing her career, and ability to be financially independent from him. Meanwhile he is sacrificing time with his children for money, which is necessary for this to work. But if they are no longer together, she has sacrificed her ability to build a career, and he has not, so financially she is at a huge disadvantage.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. She changed the question entirely, rewatch it, all she did was redirect it by saying "if a man flys her out to marry, begs her to marry him, and is asking her not to work so she could stay at home and raise the children" do you see how much she had to add on to the question just to make it reasonable. Yes anything you owned before marriage still belongs to you, that's like saying yeah you had both of your kidneys before we got married but now i deserve 1 of them.
@@themonotonousmaker378That's the point. Under certain circumstances, preenup makes sense. She's literally trying to explain why it can be reasonable. Nothing to do with changing the question.
She is correct. A family man’s time is freed up to further his career because his life partner is holding down the house in sacrifice to her own earnings. This is overlooked by many. 15 years of running a house and raising children missing out on six figures annually adds up.
the whole problem with this is that we're approaching it from how to make divorces work properly instead of how to make marriages work properly
@@adithyanr7415approaching the reality of divorce from a “how to make divorce work” mindset isn’t a problem, it’s the best way to approach divorce.
@@RobertMJohnsonNeither would most husbands. But you CAN. You absorb CAN'T watching kids all day
@@ajo8075 how much of the current conversation is about making marriages work and how much of it is on how to not get screwed over when it fails
@@marcusmaire8197 imo preventing a marriage from failing is better than dealing with the aftermath of a failed marriage and more conversations should be around on how to make a marriage work even in hard times
like approaching it from a sense of duty
also if the laws on divorce do not favour men in your country why is there not a focus on wanting to change them
rather than complaining about it
She is 100% correct. The host tried to set her up but she spoke with wisdom.
A severance included in the prenup.
@@batkorubin most states, domestic relations law (e.g., divorce, child custody, and child support) is addressed every two years.
@@batkorub I do not understand why you would think that does not make sense. Nor do I know what you mean by "family institution." But I am not sure that I need to understand that to address your statement. In the U.S., divorce and other domestic relations laws are defined by the state legislature. The legislators can change the law whenever they feel like it. The legislators occasionally make changes, but those changes are not as big as they probably should be. I think the reason that the changes are not too big is that there are political consequences for making changes that are too big.
Cool, but what if she's the one who dumped him after having the 3 kids and sacrificing years? 🤔
@@batkorubThe point is that the wealth accumulated together was exactly that, accumulated together. Just because the man works, she has provided unpaid labor in the home. Cleaning, child rearing, cooking, shopping, keeping track of and organizing all the families affairs, etc. Her support allowed him to succeed that success while also getting to have a family. She deserves the money because of the role she played.
A prenup can protect both sides, remember that
Most prenups have stipulations in them to protect both parties. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
No they don't. That's why judges throw them out. 🤷🏾♀️
This women has some common sense.
She’s deluded. It’s the first decent answer she’s ever given.
This = singular ie. 1 woman = a woman = (as seen here) so This woman
These = ie. plural = many = these women (not the case here)
@@elle_9136 T H A N K YOU! I am so tired of seeing this misused ALL the time! And when I call someone out on it, even politely, I get the riot act!
You would still get alimony and child support anyway
@@Ap0r3Dist3inHSyou like mam we get it
The most common sense argument I’ve ever heard a woman make on this topic
This is the same argument I've heard almost every woman make. It's what 80-90% of us are thinking. But most redpill podcasts like to focus on the crazies.
Women will make this stance, which is hard to disagree with.
But in truth, it's the same argument that women make for abortions....they "need them for rape victims",when less than 5% of abortions are for rape and incest. Women file for divorce 90% of the time. Marriage is the only contract where one party is rewarded for breaking it. Turn this sh!t off, simps. Educate yourselves...
Considering raising her kids as a sacrifice! Yeah, good luck with that.
@@s2xbox360work on your comprehension and understanding of the world
@@s2xbox360yeah raising them alone is indeed a sacrifice! They aren't only her kid ! It's same as being a single parent!
And now Destiney is crying because she filed for divorce and he doesn't have a prenup. LOL
It's not that he hasn't been warned but he mocked everyone whom warned him.
Who's laughing now Destiny...
Maybe, maybe not. The fact that you think you know what people think inside their heads is funny. I watch Destiny and I think they agreed she wasn’t getting his money or half
I don’t think people realize a “prenup” doesn’t have to be cookie-cutter, and it doesn’t automatically mean the wife gets nothing. Anything can be contracted for, like percentage of what wife gets if he’s faithful/not faithful, percentage of her income relative to his before she had kids playing a role in the breakdown, divorcing two years in versus 15 years (sunset clause). The point is communicating with your spouse and dealing with reality and possibilities. Being able to communicate like that also doubles as a marriage skill. I’d rather negotiate my own prenup with my husband than have the State do it for me.
Indeed! Making a prenup is super important if any of the partners start a business, to prevent the other to be hit by potential creditors. What matters is what you write in the prenup, not the prenup itself.
Exactly! I love your logic and common sense.
Agreed. I honestly think a prenup or a marriage contract is also to protect the kids from any siblings or parents of the married couple. My husband and I (who didn’t have a prenup, but we will end up doing a marriage contract and will) will require for our children if they want to be involved in our businesses. And it’s not just about our kids, the shite my husband and I have been through with our families is Reddit level crazy and it’s not like it’s impossible one of our kids couldn’t get a head injury and turn into a different person, it’s to protect their spouse too. Not just my kids. It’s also to protect them all from both sides of our families. It’s not always about the couple. Id argue it’s only an amount. The more paperwork (will, pre nup, post nup, marriage contracts) saying exactly what the married couple expects the less their siblings can make the kids life hell as an adult when the people die. Believe me, I fully expect both sides of my husband and I’s family to come after our children for any wealth accumulated. It’s always spoken about like “in case of a divorce…” when it should be a bit more detailed than that. I’d argue a pre nup/marriage contract is more important for a stay at home mom because it would clearly outlines what happens if she gets left or she leaves him. Etc. And if the pre nup is in good faith, the man should still take care of her like the situation above. I’m also pro-women having a fall back plan, not because of divorce but because of death or terminal illness. A woman needs to be able to provide to a degree god forbid her husband dies prematurely or gets Ill. I’m in the financial services industry in one of my businesses, and life insurance is part of it. People do die early…
This. Everyone thinks a "prenup" is just an agreement that both parties don't split financials in the event of the marriage failing, but that's 100% not the case.
You can make a prenup agreement for ensuring that 50% is split evenly and going over those assets ahead of time. You can make a prenup detailing custody of children, especially in the event of the death of your spouse.
People don't realize that the point of a prenup is to supersede the legal precedents in place to protect both parties in the event of a failed marriage. This can prevent family members from attempting to circumvent wills if one of the prenup signors dies. It's not always about financials.
@@Nilruinif the prenup is written where it’s completely biased against a party, typically it gets thrown out too. So to prevent that, there are typically things given so it’s not completely one sides
As a woman in a marriage you’ll never not be giving something up. Even the bare minimum of birthing and raising a child sets you back in a way that most men will never experience. She deserves every cent she gets
So a woman should be paid for having a child then. Should a man deserve something if he catches his wife cheating then. As he gave his body and soul. Should there be compensation for his lost
A man in a good marriage is also always giving something up. If either one of us isn't willing to sacrifice then it's not going to be a good marriage.
Having children did not set me back. It was my greatest accomplishment.
Why? If anything a wife and family slows a man down at work. He’s sacrificing his career for his wife and kids.
But we are speaking about when a man leaves a women who hasn't done anything and only gave him a child and is now over the age of 35. This has brought down her chance to ever have a man again of high value because he, the successful guy, is looking for a younger woman with no kids and minimal sexual encounters. Regardless if this man is the only one she has been with her value not as a person but in a western man's eyes has been lowered due to the previous spouse asked for.
EXACTLY!! Why are people acting like women want a career because they don’t want to be provided for? No, it’s that they don’t wanna get screwed over and kicked out of the house and having nothing. It’s easier to have nothing as a man than a woman cause being on the street would be a different level of dangerous
Easier in a relative sense but nobody deserves to be left with nothing in a divorce.
You realise theres a disproprionate amount of homeless men relative to woman, right? You realise that is a reason woman live longer on average, because its not safe for men.
i kinda do want a career because i’m passionate about something though. not really thinking about my husband or future troubles in my marriage in any sense.
Keeping a home raising children is not easy it take a lot of time and effort… the time and effort the man/woman who is the provider is putting in their career. After a divorce the provider will keep her/his career but the parent raising the children and keeping the home will have nothing of their own and will have to make ends meet at 40s/50s without any experience or any marketable skills … so yes half of everything and alimony.
@@atharvaveda87 you word for word just took destiny's point like a mindless npc. There's nuance, and if we use common sense you would realize even single woman who are career driven in current day still don't make as much as men. Like if I dated a teacher who's max career earnings/yr would be 60k, and I was a doctor who had 500k/yr potential, she should not get half. It's common sense. Use your brain and stop copying destiny's point word for word you npc.
She is absolutely correct. I gave up everything to be a full-time mother and when I divorced my unfaithful husband I got 75%. He never wanted me to work
How you can took 75% from his assets?
@@saraali1538 first of all your diction is atrocious. What you meant to say is how can you take 75%. Took sounds illiterate. I can take it easily because that’s what my solicitor got me and that’s what my ex-husband agreed to. Does that answer your question? My ex-husband was an underground crime figure and you don’t know shiiii from clay
It's because of robbers like you that a man needs a strong prenup. How do you justify taking 75% of someone's entire value just because he was stupid enough to marry you?
Yes he cheated. That's bad. But 75%? And you call that justice...
Hell no. Guys should really stay away from women.
So cheated on him and took 75% of his assets while sitting at home watching Netflix, no wonder why men don't wanna get married anytime.
@@nikkbronx Can you read? I didn’t say i cheated on him. He cheated on me f…fs. I was a faithful wife. I loved him. He gave me what I wanted out of guilt.
This aged like Milk for her LOL
WAIT.She actually made sense?? Thats a breath of fresh air.
P.s since i started a war i should make clear that I am talking about woman that get on these types of platforms that cant even properly make a sentence..i am saying something good about her... i guess some people will get triggered by anything.. get a life.
Try and go out of your redpill echo chamber more often my guy
That's why women are working now days.
We have learned from our mothers and grandmothers to not rely on a man.
@JenGreen4141 exactly. They act like this woman is unique when this is pretty much the way all women feel. But they think she's "hot" so she's okay lol. She makes this same video in 10 years and she'll be called a fat ugly c%nt.
Wow, that was the most true and fair response I have ever heard from a woman
@@dontstalkmedeltoro8816
The problem is even though a lot of women are working now, if they get a divorce, they still want half. Marriage used to just mean you would love and be monogamous with your spouse. Now, marriage is a financial thing. “If we divorce I get half of your stuff” lol
As a recently divorced guy, her logic is spot on and I’d accept those terms from my future spouse without a second thought
yea well it all depends on what she means by "half" too. If you're a multi-millionaire she wouldn't be half of that if she had been unwed between then and now because if she did have credentials or some other seriously-minded potential then she would have seized on it. people don't get a master's degree in accounting, let's say, for nothing.
Except that no prenup option doesn't prevent her from purposely breaking up the marriage.
She didn't say why he would divorce.. She might have fked the mail man and now he wants a divorce. She wants to secure that she might take another 🍆 in the stay at home boring life with the kids. Still it's another way of a woman wanting a way out IF SHE FKS UP... Basically being rewarded for HER fking up by fking another 🍆.
Fool
This is blue pill ideology. Having children and being a mother is not a sacrifice. Its what she is literally designed to do. Just like working hard and providing is not a sacrifice. Its what your designed to do.
I'd say sure, send it to my attorney.
Prenup works multiple ways so even if you sacrifice years you can have your own prenup that accounts for those years so that you’re compensated accordingly. Prenup doesn’t just block someone from access to money if there’s a divorce but ensures access as well
It just changes the default divorce proceedings. The state has a prenuptial agreement when you sign the marriage license if you don’t sign one first
💯 agreed ! I’ll sign the prenup happily as along as I am having a career and you don’t ask me to give it up for giving birth to kids and becoming a full time house wife and dump me later for a young hot girl after using me as a stepping stone to your success!
Also, for giving men a "home and stability"
See when you make it simple . Everyone can agree ,especially if they have good intentions.
You do realize most marriages are broken by the women.
Most men do not have the opportunity to step out and run around. That is something women have started doing these past 50 years.
If a man doesn’t ask you to wear a ring there is no need for a prenup.
And that is exactly what women are learning. Men no longer want to wife up a woman.
@@drmachinewerke1So why the constant nagging about marriage? If it wasn’t an issue topics like these wouldn’t be so big currently and people wouldn’t be making so much money on podcasts talking about it.
@@drmachinewerke1a man who asks for a prenup has the intention of dipping out when things don’t go his way. Marriage is a covenant.
And cheating is the leading cause of divorce. Blaming only one party is childish.
Either you’re dumb, or you want a dummy for a wife.
As a man with a hard-working wife, she couldn’t said it any better
If he takes care of the 3 kids and home ect yes 100%
As a man who just lost everything to a woman who wanted to be a stay at home mom to raise kids instead of working, I DONT RESPECT THIS SHALLOW TAKE. This is the trap and the absolute case for a pre-nup.
Right??? Finally a fucking healthy minded woman. God damn man
@@milktobo7418why did it end?
Saying that she "sacrificed a career" to have children means she gave up something more important than a family. If a woman really wants children, then it's not a sacrifice. It's a reward. If she's only having children to make him happy, then _that's_ a sacrifice, but for all the wrong reasons.
As a man, I’m man enough to say she is absolutely correct.
Enough man for being reasonable and gave her the reason based on logic ???
You are an npc. She chose condition that would make her correct. But what if he divorces because she was caught in cheating? Why should share lol. You are just an npc who cant think
Wowowowowow SO MANLY
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@@SnailHatanbest set of emojis I’ve prob ever seen. Bravo 👏🏼
He was thinking he owned her with that question, she ended up owning his entire family with that statement 🤣
Watch the whole interview and see who got owned bro
Why y’all keep saying it was a set up question I think he was just starting a discussion 😂. Geez
That’s abused. He asked a simple question in which she gave her answer and caveated with an exemption.
As a man with a wife at home this is a fair statement. She works as hard as I do and she’s raising our child, the most important job is hers, I support that with my career, 50/50
If the kids go to the mom first, you have failed as a man. The kids are your property and your responsibility. She should be the one teaching and bonding closer then you.
@@cjjohnson4061 WOW....some men like to have a cake and eat that too
I'd divorce you for being a boring bastard.
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@@futureteacher7986 What would be the point of having cake if you can't eat it?
@@futureteacher7986 One other thing. Women don't seem to complain when their sex gets them things/advantages/privileges.
“I’m going to fly you out” is a phrase no commoner has heard.
😂
She knows the drill well
O ya lots of exp
😂😂😂😂😂👍
Remember the first time I heard this and not knowing what was meant
Relationships like that shouldn’t even happen to begin with, it should be a shared effort.
Exactly! Don’t be a stay at home mom please
How is being a full time mom to three kids not sharing the effort? Do you have children? Have you been married?
@@DaBlenda Why is it just the mother? Why such a lack of stay-at-home fathers? Because it’s been reinforced by sexist society. It’s just someone who wants to take easy while the other works their ass off, and it creates an unstable home environment most of the time. My mother and father both raised us (3) while working full time jobs. They both did equal parts in it, don’t you try to tell me it’s the woman’s responsibility to take care of the kids, it’s a job that needs to be shared. Who tf wants to grow up with one attentive parent and one neglecting parent. If one partner is fully reliant on the other, what you start to get is negative feelings brewing in one or the other party. You hear stay at home mothers complain about it all the time or the fathers in that situation.
The thing about prenups is that they’re customizable, so either you agree to the terms of the prenup that both parties agree to or you get whatever the court decides. A prenup doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re left with NOTHING. But it does prevent someone taking HALF of your possessions
Exactly, that's how it works. You fulfilled the guy's dream of a family to look good for other guys and you helped him focus on the career, you deserve half.
Yes
You will like the Barbie movie.
Enjoy the good life.
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Shoot, did I actually write this...!? Wait, I didn't see the movie, so I couldn't tell you anything really. This is odd!
So u deserve half of his money that u didn’t put half the effort to make makes sense
@mike You carry & birth his offspring, he legacy’s, his name to live on… raise the kids, feed them, look after the house, be the maid & love him with loyalty, use your youth, most drop out of work. YES you deserve more then half ! It’s a life sacrifice
@@onset5610 yeah she was not his maid let’s get that straight and the rest of that entitles her to his money ur a joke
She’s right, smart lady. I gave up a great career for marriage and kids, and now I’m homeless.
I’m sorry. What happened?
Don’t worry darling. God has a plan for you, just trust him and ask him anything you want. God will always be there for you. In my mother tongue they say “ntamvura idahita” this translates to “ every rain has time to stop” your problems will not always be there, just pray to God and trust him in the process.
@@Aissa_gilly975lmao ure joking right XDXD
@@Minrinea I don’t have time to joke around.
Should’ve taken the career first
If you don't fuckkk up with him and treat him like a king
He is never gonna leave you
For sure
Ppl have such a toxic view on prenups. It's just like a living will and you can design it however you want. The biggest reason you want a prenup is when you don't have one you turn over a divorce to a judge because marriage is a legal contractual document and if you have a prenup it avoids a judge and protects both parties from money hungry divorce lawyers that always make it worse. Look into prenups and understand you literally can design it however you want. It's not just 'what's mine is mine and what's your's is your's.' Aaaaand you can adjust the prenup whenever you want so with unexpected life changes happen you can update it. Sounds like a will doesn't it?
As a married man… I approve her message. Shout out to all women holding it down for us.
She is dead wrong lol.
She is essentially advocating for stealing half of a man’s stuff because of divorce.
Simp
Shutup simp
Dummy
Until....
What do you mean well played? She’s being logical and honest, no games there. What a wonderful lady!!!
well put.
That’s probably how he meant it. This is a clip from a larger conversation. Relax.
It means exact your point after the question
Well played. Good job. Well said. He asked her a question and he respects her answer.
there was no logic there. She proves she needs a man to survive. LOL
The prenup is to protect the man in case the wife decides to divorce her husband. In the preup, usually protect the wife if the husband decides to divorce the wife.
I don’t believe the man should have to pay his ex wife for years, millions etc or take half of his company that she never worked for, there should be a limit for her to find a job and start making her own way after they break up, adjusting to that new lifestyle. I’m referring to spousal support
Best way I’ve heard it explained from a woman. Makes complete sense and is rational.
I second it
That's why theres ante nuptials with & without accrual
*woman.
It all depends on the context of the relationship.
agree with her from from the example but what about if she is the one that want a divorce not the husband?
Best answer I've heard to that question.
That‘s true. ❤
Yes, a cumrag deserves 50% lol + house. Some compensation, sure. Not 50%
Absolutely! Finally someone makes sense
that is if it really was for the protection of the woman however marriage is literally a contract enabling women to divorce thats why the divorce rate is around 75% initiated by women so the same argument doesnt apply.
Never make a contract that inclines someone to break it.
@@dessertlimbo Shut up xD. Marriage is not a contract that someone is inclined to break... You realise for women and in 99% of cases, they are not going to get anything of value right? Like you guys talk as if 90% of men are wealthy when in actuality that is far from the case, most divorce cases - The woman gets nothing because there is nothing to actually take.
Marriage is 100% for the protection of women because the whole point was that women didn't work and stayed at home with the children, so if their husbands left or died they would be able to keep houses, etc. As she said - If you want your wife to stop working and have kids/stay at home - Then you better be prepared to sacrifice half the shit because that is fair - She gave up a career so that you could build one, whilst she cared for a child/children.
As for Divorce is started by women... you realise the statistics for divorces is miniscule comparatively so despite "75% of women starting divorce" its only about 15-20% of couples that are actually getting divorced. So its such a heavily favoured contract, yet women aren't breaking it anywhere near as much as people pretend they are.
She absolutely have rights to do that.
Pre nup should only be shielding what was owned by both parties before the marriage. Once married, it is all shared.
Absolutely right, I stayed home with kids for 6 years, my career was over and I had to start from the bottom AGAIN !We shouldn't be punished for bringing in the next generation and the family. I would like to add I'm still happily married, but I've still had to restart career!!!
I definitely understand your position, and I'm sorry that you had to start from scratch, but men have learned their lesson over history about being completely screwed in every way from women and divorces. Men don't want to go in with everything and live with nothing, which is the case in so many of these divorces. Men have a right and necessity to protect themselves just as much as the next woman does.
I'm not disagreeing
@@hannahwalmer1124lol
@@hannahwalmer1124 Yes men do have the right to protect themselves and their assets, they also have a right to pick up some slack and help with their children and yet they rarely do until they get a lot older. Women sacrifice their time, dignity and potential for assets when a husband asks them to stay with the children, if he then decides to divorce she is left with no assets and livelihood. A good man won’t need a prenup
@@wyloetakitimu4375 If the woman insists on being a stay at home wife/mom, has known she wanted to have that role since she was young and was determined to find a man that would have allow her to be that, then, she knows (or should know), the risk going in. Nothing is stopping her from having a job or making her own money. The woman can step up and help out and now leave the husband stretched out thin just to support the household. A good woman would need a prenup.
100% valid argument in a "at fault" state
exactly what I was coming to write 👏🏼
It's a valid argument to be greedy over caring. From the people who think corporations should pay a fair share, you folks sure are just as greedy.
@@dirtysilver2841 I don't know where the corporation argument comes from... I just feel entitled to the money i have earned, marriage is a contract AND a commitment.
Great answer
People don’t seem to understand what a prenup is, they seem to think you either get half or nothing. Prenup can be negotiated in a way you get maintenance etc etc
She is totally correct , I agree on this one.
That's an actually fair point. I like her
I agree. I’m a stay at home mom. I haven’t worked in 8 years. If my husband were to leave me today I would be so screwed. I would need him to help me get on my feet and provide as he has been.
Getting divorced would cost him more money in the long run. Good we have that off the table and work through everything.
Same.
It’s 2023! Being a parent is not a career get up and get a life of your own. Please don’t ever put your life in someone else hands. My uncle told my aunt years ago she couldn’t buy panties without him. He was right! With all do respect are you rising your girls to marry, have babies and depend on a man?
Females are sooooo lost! That’s why men are making decisions on your body because they’re taking care of you 1000%…
@@bryanbryan5214hey, it's 2023. We don't shame stay at home parents or working parents. Both groups are doing what they can, in the family dynamics that each have chosen. There is no right or wrong way so stop being a judgy hypocrite.
You setting yourself up for failure. You said it yourself you would be screwed . What if your husband died unexpectedly?even if I was a SAHM I would still work 1 weekend a month just to not leave the work force completely just in case something happen I could transition easily back into the work force without skipping a beat.
What some people don’t realize is you can also add stuff to your prenup to ensure you aren’t going to be left with nothing. Example: you can add infidelity clauses to it. If he/she steps out on the marriage they will pay, if they become abusive during the marriage they will pay. It’s not just a paper saying no matter what you get shit if we divorce.
Yup, a prenup is an agreement for marriage. Back up with law.
Bring married seems like a booby trap. Those clauses added could backfire if a person chooses to get real nasty and lie especially during a divorce. Then it all comes down to who's a better manipulator and willing to bare through the torture longer. It's not worth giving someone that kind of power over me unless I had a large certainty that my partner is highly unlikely to be the vengeful type.
@@iihithereii to me that just sounds like two people who didn’t get to know each other prior to marriage. I think people who have those intentions after marriage had those intentions prior and during their marriage. Because if there was love at all during the marriage the individual who knows they messed up wouldn’t fight it because they know they hurt the person they were madly in love with.
There are a number of celebrities that have clauses like these. Justin Timberlake added this to his prenup with Jessica Beil after being caught with another woman. It included a hefty pay (I believe it was everything he owns and custody of their kids). Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta Jones has a clause in their prenup as well regarding infidelity. And these couples are still married and madly in love.
No I can see where an Amber heard would flip the script but let’s be real, she was selfish and in it for the fame to begin with and in the end lost.
@@alinonederlan7741 makes sense but I'm still giving someone too much legal power over me. I heard of a couple that got divorced because of their differences and he decided to sue for spousal distress. The thing is, most people really don't know themselves as much as they'd like to think they do, myself included.
Like I am 100% down to put a clause in for time spent child-rearing or whatever. Prenups are just what marriages originally were, contracts. Both parties agree to the terms and you can update it if you want.
So my perspective is that you should do a prenup every regardless and if the two of you can't have the serious discussion and compromise necessary to write a prenup you shouldn't get married.
A prenup should be negotiated with each person ensuring their interests are being met. It should not be a unilateral declaration by one party.
Notice, nowhere in her scenario is the guy a stay at home dad 🤭
The most level headed response you can possibly give. Good job young lady.
she also sleeps with multiple men while dating one ahahah so no.. wrong lol
Until you look at the divorce stats and realize it's women leaving the men, not the man leaving the woman. In her hypothetical scenario in the argument, she'd be leaving with the kids and taking his money, not him leaving her.
lmao you need to see her 1st interview, you have no idea who she is from your response
@@datboikevin I’ll check it out.
@@illiji915i don’t think that matters. If you’re demanding someone quit their job to raise you alls family, they need income if there’s a divorce. You can’t leave them homeless because you’re heart broken
A prenup doesn't necessarily exclude care after a divorce. It would just specify the details beforehand.
They don't want to RESEARCH anything that don't feed their side.
@@isaiahbrown4583she never said she didn't want a prenup little
Exactly. People really don’t understand how prenups work.
She said she wanted half. She never mentioned about whether or not she'd get taken care of. She said f*ck that I'm getting half. Prenups are usually are lot less friendly than community property laws.
if you are not start to building your career in your 20s and 30s, you are not gonna need so much in your 40s.
Exactly.. well said.. because your job was nurse, mother, cook, cleaner and s*** worker
Who's there,I don't see any guy there, sucessful one at that!!😉🤣
As a man I have to agree....and I am one of those toxic ones. You can't leave a woman hanging.
Same
I left your momma with nothing
yeah u can
She’ll have no problem leaving a guy hanging though.
Sure you can depending on whether she is a psychopath who spent 20 years living a lie or not. Maybe you haven't looked around but there is tons of females who get married and destroy their mans lives because they were snakes from the get go. Ever met a woman with BPD or NPD? That's what they do. Straight vampires. Will lie to you then take over your entire life until they suck you dry
Perfectly reasonable response. Staying at home and raising children IS a job.
The easiest and most rewarding job ever then
Only video that made sense across all relationships guru videos
Just keep in mind that most working moms are still held accountable for the bulk of the parenting, cooking and housework so make sure your worth isn’t undervalued no matter if you work outside the home or not
@@miscellaneousviewing7916 Not always... Trust me, I've seen it and live it. Also please think before you talk, how many hours does an average man spend working? Now consider that working moms generally work anywhere from 6-10 hours a day and then take on household responsibilities, then answer, who's doing more work at the end of the day? Your argument is an ignorant one to make TBH...
@@miscellaneousviewing7916 so what? Both are working and only one is doing extra family work. If the man is not the sole breadwinner. Responsibility needs to be shared.
@@krisl6537 Men too are normalizing staying at home and taking care of chores so wym?😂 It goes both ways in this conversation where men and women are doing each other's traditional tasks. You pulling out a strawman argument doesn't mean the majority of people. Google says 16 to 20% of women make more than their husband in income. Only 6% are sole breadwinners.
You sound clouded and bitter due to your past and should honestly seek help. If your man wasn't traditional and wanted a traditional marriage then it just didn't work out. Do you wanna talk about how the percentage of divorce rates by women has skyrocketed? Bc that's something that's gone up to an insane percentage. That's something that women have changed themselves that they usually scoot around since it makes them all look bad. It's why men have also stopped dating to an alarming degree and are getting wives from overseas.
@@akira963214785 that's very true, and I didn't deny that at all. But I am, however, staying on topic, this comment reel is specifically about working moms that do more housework than their spouses. I also said not always. I don't know if you are just lost in the convo or what's even happening right now.
Men are most often the keepers of women’s labor. She is made dependent on him and could be left with nothing, no career or history. And all her time spent contributing to society in the most necessary way receiving no monetary value.
The woman having 3 kids and raising them IS a hardworking person, even outside of building a career.
I think she meant before the kids came
Until they go to school.
I think she would agree
Agreed 100%. I would even say moms with 3 kids work harder than average working women. And yet, they get paid nothing. Only the "joy of being a mother" F**k that, we're taking half.
yeah and thats her point. if you do all that, you deserve a half. if you both agree that a woman will pursue her career, all house tasks should he split
If you make 5 figures, no prenuptial. If you're rich, yes prenuptial.
I love how she uses the word.. sacrifice raising children !!! I was a single dad raising 3 children...never ever thought i sacrificed anything...how sad women have become...
You are delusional if you think dedicating you entire life to raising a family and being a stay at home mom isn't a sacrifice. Literal room temp IQ.
Man that was an extremely well spoken answer
well spoken, but a complete farce. If the hypothetical scenario was accurate, then she'd be leaving him and taking the kids and his money
@@illiji915
Well…. If she raised them bc he chose to always work then OF COURSE they would go live with her
And bc her job was to raise the kids while so he could go make money she should get half by the argument that he wouldn’t have been able to go and make that much money if she hadn’t freed up his time!
It’s not a raffle of it’s perfectly fucking reasonable
If my future wife has sacrificed herself for my kids, then we separated, I'll willingly give her half. She deserves it
Would you give her $100 Million?
@@MikeKollinig if he has a net worth of 200m then whynot
So if the man needs to give half his wealth to the traditional woman, does she have to provide him sex, and cook for him after divorce too ?
It depends on the how long the marriage were and accumulated assets, i am too well off now to give half to a potential wife.
@@0x-X-x0 Because she doesn't need 100m that wasn't earned. No amount of childcare equates that to amount of money. Maybe 5m max
You and your partner can write your own terms and conditions in a prenup. It might be beneficial to have one, especially if you’re giving up a career to raise children. The prenup is a way of having a less messy divorce because things were set prior and agreed upon prior
It’s also not always about the couple getting a divorce? It’s also clearing things up to all other siblings and parents of the couple getting married and protecting their children from them…
I agree with her ...very clam very straight to the point
Men be marrying because they like how women look and have the audacity to complain all they find are gold diggers. 😂
they need to change the women they’re attracted to fr 😩 if you only seek trash you only get trash
Or attract a woman using their money and be upset when said woman wants it😂😂
@velvetthunder3856 EXACTLY 😂 lots of men who have such inflated self esteems thinking thier value men looking thus within "rights" to demand "value women". But like they can't really provide for themselves and would definitely not be physically attracted to themselves in any way if they were women. Yet they want someone who will be a trad wife WHILE also working and paying for half the bills. Like no sir. Reason traditional marriages semi work in other parts of the world is because husbands there are expected to be MEN/full providers thus making marriages more equal in partnership as opposed to 30/70.
American men do NOT understand/conveniently want to ignore that part of the equation.
Women be marrying because they like how men abuse them and have the audacity to complain about it
This comment!!!
It takes a good trusting man to be a good provider. Don't give your life to just any man. I'm thankful to have the best.
Yes. All the comments are clearly from people who have been burned, as was I - in my past.
The right man will never make you doubt yourself, your marriage with him& his intentions with you as a provider for your whole family!
I thank God daily for mine.
I wish more women were like this.
If both parties are working she shouldn’t get 1/2
And both should contributed to the house chores and parenting the same amount of their time.
But if one party works a full time job but has to clean, cook, do laundry and watch over kids, they deserve to be compensated for that cause that’s a job too.
@@UltraMella Household chores has nothing to do with it... Every has to do that and that is definitely not a job.
@@codydonovan7356 English please. I don’t understand what you’re saying
One of my successful uncle got divored by his wife and she wanted 50% of his assets, but funny enough, most of his money was not under his name and was in a trustee with ridiculous conditions 😅
She ended up only getting $5k from the divorce.
She totally nailed it, this concept needs to be explained to young people, as their are kids/young people that don't understand this concept of a woman sacrificing their career/future for taking care of the kids, and if divorce happens , they are supposed to expect nothing, no financial assistance, like taking care of kids is not hard work 😡.Taking care of children is the most difficult job and also woman don't just take care of the children they take care of the whole family including the husband, and in later life when their parents are in need of help, who is their , mostly their daughter
Taking care of kids is one of the easiest jobs there is. Stop talking bs. Most women will never have careers to beging with. A family is a future. Hope you never get married. The mindset you have is toxic to a marriage.
Correct. Mothers that have dedicated themselves to their families deserve half.
It really depends. The family means also the man. Unleas he is the one breaking the vows of marriage, then no...she does not deserve half.
It is continuous support on the same level as if they were married.. not a one-time payment.
Something tells me in her heart she would be disappointed by a pre-nup... I think anyone would
I agree with her 100%. The problem is when women cheat on the husband that works all the time to support her and her 3 kids and she takes half his shit anyways. That’s a massive flaw in the system.
Just have a clause in the prenup that says either gets nothing from the other if cheating occurs during the relationship.
prenup are ez to get thrown away by a judge@@masterpainb3ddy632
@@masterpainb3ddy632yea but that seems to never work. They always argue that in court and make it the man’s fault for cheating and end up getting half.
And thats why both need to work
that basically never happens bro wtf. Men are the ones who justify cheating by saying shit like "men were not made to be monogamous" and shit like that.
Perfectly said - Totally agree. In a marriage you are a team.
She wasn't part of the team when those prenup wealth were built, so...
@@navsofour2892💯
@@navsofour2892but now she is part of the the team so...
@@bangla_saabThat's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. She changed the question entirely, rewatch it, all she did was redirect it by saying "if a man flys her out to marry, begs her to marry him, and is asking her not to work so she could stay at home and raise the children" do you see how much she had to add on to the question just to make it reasonable. Yes anything you owned before marriage still belongs to you, that's like saying yeah you had both of your kidneys before we got married but now i deserve 1 of them.
@@themonotonousmaker378 umm lil bro never heard of a kidney transplant
Can't find a flaw in her logic. Under those exact pretenses, yes, she's spot on.
I feel like women forget that 'Prenup' is short term for 'prenuptial agreement.' Each one is different, but no one thinks like that anymore lol
To add to that if she decides to have a hot girl summer and throw away a marriage after having kids and being the traditional housewife. She shouldn’t get a single dime
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Add an infideleity clause. Done.
@@dwwolf4636 x2 on that
@@dwwolf4636 this guy gets it
You have a point, but how many women actually do that? Either side can have serious dealbreakers (or abuse etc) that they aren’t able to predict. And the assumption is always that the man wants to continue the relationship for the kids, that seems odd.
Fair. Level-headed. Introspective about the situation. And veeeery realistic. I absolutely loved her response.
Ya mama is as wide as the grand canyon, you evil criminal hoooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She just parrots destiny
Looks like you're just as ignorant with no values as she is. You can't put a price on a loving marriage nor children. Saying you might theoreretically give up a career for marriage and family shows how shallow you both are.
100% correct. Wow 😮 these girls exist in real life .
Best answer ever, seen so many entitled guys wanting to let go off career of the woman ask her to give up her freedom and pretend like they would take care.
Good for her. I’m married now 15 years, 3 kids but my career is flourishing! I can survive on my own because my husband has prioritized my needs along with his. We have balance in our work and home lives together and I wouldn’t want it any other way!!
Absolutely!!!!
That's what I'm talking their is no love without consideration!
Kids raised by the internet
This woman knows what she wants and what she needs.
Why does a dumped woman with kids deserve anything, if she gets to take the kids from a father?
Ty!!!!!!!!!! I know women who had this happen. I will always work.
She isn't wrong. Time is money, and that's how jobs are paid.
"successful guys in this panel" 😂
I laughed at that too. 😂
A prenup doesn't mean you get nothing. It means you get something agreed upon.
If it's coming down to divorce it's Your children, not our children.
I’m a man who kept my wife home to raise the kids and take care of me while building my business and if somehow we get a divorce she deserves at least half!
The most beautiful thing a man said this entire year!
Thank you!
Men don’t leave good women. She doesn’t deserve half:
@@nikitaw1982 what are you talking about? One of my friend left his amazing wife cz he can’t keep it in his pants! His wife did nothing wrong
@@peaceforall8970 big minority. Plus women zero accountability, I doubt she did nothing wrong. At least she ignored the signs when dating and just married him for a divorce payout. Ur friends a gold digger, passive aggressive
FINALLY A DECENT REASONIN. Why can't people be as reasonable. The next step is working out a deal with eachother and building that trust
Yea women say what she said here. But most of the time it’s the female who initiates the divorces. In which case she should not get anything.
@0hleg nah this is the first time I've seen a woman online actually say what she said. Other times they just got mad and couldn't even give a real reason
That's a solid answer.
That’s the best answer I have ever heard in this situation 👏👏👏👏👏
I remember my patents fighting every single day for almost 10yrs but didn't divorce because my mom was a cleaning lady and couldn't live on her own. I don't want that fate for myself
Not all people have carriers most just have jobs , they don't lose anything by having children and a family
@@stefandulgheriu agree. you're right.
All that means is that she didn’t leave because your father didn’t have a career despite her sacrifices. Thats why they were fighting.
She sacrificed her goals to “become” a cleaning lady for your father to become NOTHING.
wow, then leave and get two jobs if needed to live on your own, there is option to leave, but stay its easier, so you and everyone have the option to leave, so if she stays its her fault dont blame other for your decisions
@@lynnerose7891 You nailed it. My father literally stopped working in 2007 and didn't work ever again until his retirement in 2018. He didn't clean, he didn't cook, he didn't do groceries. Every woman with more income would've left him. That's why my mother pushed me and my sister to finish university and establish independet lives, first.
True. If the man cheats on her when she's been loyal for years then she deserves half. But if she doesn't then she deserves nothing. That's how the court should always rule it.
I agree re with her 💯 sounds pretty reasonable to me
Absolutely right and that's traditionally the reason the wife gets half. They didn't work and the man's earnings were the contribution to the family unit.
If you're missing college to raise a family, I can totally agree with her logic.
Most women get married and have kids at 28-30 well after college and be in mind the majority of wives make less than their husbands so this means nothing. Most men would be okay if the wife got 20% but not half because alot of the time it’s way more than half
A prenup just has him keep his past money. It does nothing with future money. Thats always fair game.
That is a actually a good response.
All these languages and she chose to speak FACTS. 💯
I mean not really. Prenup or nothing frankly. Its my money
@@tobiasmccallum9697nah its "our money" if it's a true marriage
You’d tell your lady, “let’s get married, I want a big family and I don’t want you to work so you can take care of the household” then you left. You’d say “my money”. That’s a ridiculous statement and you didn’t listen
@@tobiasmccallum9697 Don't get married to save yourself the trouble. Also, if you have a prenup try telling the government it's your money. I bet you thought giving money in a prenup was a choice, nope.. they take from your paychecks the same way Child Support does when you have a job. Good luck out there lol
@@cheeuty45902 I'm not American.......
Bad luck living in a terrible country
I like her response. Its situational and it depends on the type of partnership you will have. Its all about communication and respect.
I love how women always use this scenario as an argument when it's women leaving, not the men
While I agree with her…the prenup is also there so she doesn’t take advantage of him. Protecting his assets. He will lawfully and rightfully make sure he helps provide for the children. Nearly 70% of women file for divorce. In a lot of divorces a lot of men have to virtually start over.
These sorts of things can be spelled out in a…prenup. You can specify how much money she would get in a theoretical divorce by number of kids, responsibilities at home, length of marriage, etc. Her argument is a false one; not only do I want to not have to work, I want half of the assets, alimony and child support when I divorce you. Don’t fall for it. Work out ahead of time what you both can consider fair; if you can’t agree, then don’t marry her.
She's a SMART WOMAN, because Real Love endures and it's VERY VERY Rare!!!
If it's real love they'd never ask you to quit your job
@@helpingyouleaveoh, but they do anyway. And women eat it up because they think they they hit a life of luxury.
She is smart, she’s married plus she sleeps around so she’ll never be homeless
@@helpingyouleavewhy not? wouldnt you want a loving mum to raise the kids instead of a nanny?
@@iamnotericApparently couples making a decision together for one to stay home with the kids isn’t love.
That is actually totally fair. I never thought about it in that way but it makes sense. She has sacrificed her ability to advance her career to raise your children, so if u get a divorce, she is screwed. Makes sense
You do realize they are in fact her kids as well lol
@@loose505 Yeah but I was (obviously) referring to the fact that she is taking on the vast majority of the responsibilities in raising their kids. To do that she is sacrificing her career, and ability to be financially independent from him. Meanwhile he is sacrificing time with his children for money, which is necessary for this to work. But if they are no longer together, she has sacrificed her ability to build a career, and he has not, so financially she is at a huge disadvantage.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. She changed the question entirely, rewatch it, all she did was redirect it by saying "if a man flys her out to marry, begs her to marry him, and is asking her not to work so she could stay at home and raise the children" do you see how much she had to add on to the question just to make it reasonable. Yes anything you owned before marriage still belongs to you, that's like saying yeah you had both of your kidneys before we got married but now i deserve 1 of them.
@@OnePrideRideOrDiebut without the man doing what he does , the women wouldn’t even be in the situation to even nurture n raise the kids .
@@themonotonousmaker378That's the point. Under certain circumstances, preenup makes sense. She's literally trying to explain why it can be reasonable. Nothing to do with changing the question.