If USC is willing to spend NIL money, they’re easily a top five job. Which they did this past recruiting class and appear to be doing the same with the next one
Bro are they willing to spend double the NIL money another school will offer because to live in LA is gonna cost these kids double maybe more than it would cost most other places. Plus the taxes. Collin Cowherd who lives in LA broke this down with Josh better than I am.
One criteria you missed is how entitled in the fan base and administration? How long of a leash are you going to have? If you have two years in a row of first round exits from the cfp going to find you fired?
You're crazy!!! Miami is in south Florida properly the top recruiting base in the nation there's a reason everybody SEC, BIG 10 schools, ACC schools stay down there recruiting, & that's Miamis recruiting base that's why they called Miami a sleeping Giant because the only people who can stop Miami from being great & dominating college football again is Miami & now that they finally have the right people there & are taking college football serious again it's a wrap they're about to dominate
@stormwarning522 They do have Florida and Florida State to compete against. Florida and Florida State have each won three national championships since 1993 and Miami has won 5 since 1983. That is incredible to me that the state of Florida at various times has had three POWERHOUSES! Ohio State is fortunate in that it is one of the three largest universities in the country and is the only football powerhouse in the state. Most of the state of Ohio (except Cincinnati) backs OSU. Toledo is half and half OSU and Michigan fans. Some people in Ohio refer to Toledo as Toledo, Michigan and Cincinnati as Cincinnati, Kentucky.
@stormwarning522 yeah ok. They've been in possibly the most fertile recruiting area for decades and according to some "about to dominate". We'll see if it ever happens because they definitely weren't "dominant" this year. At the bare minimum anyone unbiased can easily name at least 7 jobs better.
It’s not. Miami isn’t Top 5 now bc they just played for a national championship, although that helps. They are Top 5 bc the investment, resources, and alignment with the administration, including president and AD, is unreal. The amount of operating money the university is generating from the UHealth network and its corporate partnerships is unreal, and the City and what opportunities and good times it has to offer players and recruits is perfectly situated for the NIL/transfer portal era when players driving expensive cars, living in waterfront homes, and taking off season yacht trips and nights out on Miami Beach are totally permissible benefits in the new era of CFB.
@kyleberglin5067 Miami doesn't regularly sign the top 5 recruits in South Florida. That makes the regional recruiting advantage not as impactful. Their fanbase is fair weather. That makes the staff under less pressure than the every year contenders. They have money but as a smaller private school, it's not more money than the top 5 programs. I would say that their BRAND is top 5 but that's it. Those are the reasons why I am saying that the job might be a little overhyped if anyone is ranking them as a top 5 job.
I'm an Ohio State grad and coached there (different sport). I love Buckeye football, but I'm not sure it's a great job. You can have the highest winning % in CFB history, as Day does, but any time you stub your toe, the "haters" come at you like a tsunami. Even though in 136 years of Buckeye football, there have been only six undefeated/untied seasons, if you don't meet that standard, the "Fire the coach" idiots come out of the woodwork, and your kids get harassed. Ohio, while still a good HS football state, isn't prime recruiting territory anymore. You have to steal kids out of the Sun Belt to be nationally competitive. Yes, I want the Buckeyes to win every game and national championship every year, and I am disappointed when they don't, but I think I can keep things in perspective. The Nick Saban run of the 2010s is never going to happen again, by anybody.
Heres the thing. I don't think it's true, the narrative that OSU fans have a larger percentage of idiots thinking they know better for the program, they just have higher standards because of the resources, brand, history, etc. But, they also have those expectations especially in the regular season because the schedule is so often easy. If OSU loses two games in a regular season, they either lost to someone they really shouldn't have or lost every game that wasn't a guarantee. This year is the toughest schedule I've seen in a long time for OSU and it still is pretty mild. Ryan Day has a great record but there were a lot more questions about whether he was performing at the level worth not looking for a better candidate pre 2025 champ run
@Babou4573the regular season schedules are NO EASIER than they've always been and, as I cited, Ohio State has had ONLY SIX UNDEFEATED/UNTIED SEASONS IN 136 YEARS! Buckeye "fans" expectations are so far out of whack with historical realities it isn't funny. It is INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT to go undefeated and always has been and to demand that type of perfection is ridiculous!
It's the best job because the entire state revolves around the team. There is no other school to share the state with for funds etc. think mich-mich st, auburn alabama, hell virginia virginia tech and so on.
@scottwolf5952 And it's that point that also makes it a tough job. Every Ohioan thinks it's their birthright to have undefeated, national championship seasons every year, no matter how unrealistic that is; anything else is unacceptable.
The Miami take grew on me being that high on the list. If you've spent time in Miami I don't know how players don't want to be there. The city and atmosphere of being in Miami alone is crazy. Especially now that they're winning.
How would you rate Mizzou as a job and as a program? Managed to keep Drink in one of the craziest coaching carousels ever, and he was mentioned for almost every job.
I think this year will tell if Georgia needs to adapt it's spending model or if it's still effective. No one thinks of Georgia as "huge money" like OSU, Texas, Miami, etc, because they have a different model which attempts retainment and who they go after. I truly don't know which way it will go.
I think they dont have the Money the schools you mention have. Atleast Ohio State and Texas. Also Oregon for example. Georgia Had an fringe First round DT (Miller) and an top 60ish Pick WR (Branch) declare while Oregon Had an fringe First round DT (Washington), and top 60ish Edge (Uiagalelei) Return in addition to their QB which was protected to Go top 5. In my opinion a Lot of the recent succes of the Big 10 schools over the SEC schools can be explained by their better ability to keep decent to (very) good NFL prospects from Entering the NFL draft for 1 year (which has an big NIL Part i assume).
@Ghost_618nationThey do have a lot of Money. But they are not at the Tier of Texas,Ohio State or Oregon. And i dont see them having the Potential to getting there Like i See with LSU or USC. Look at my example with Miller and Branch: Late first round picks make 12+ Millionen on an 4 year Deal. Which means 3+Millionen APY. So in Order for College Teams to keep an fringe First round pick even with an Discount for liking to be there and an Chance to Develop and increase His draft Stock it Takes atleast 2 Millionen. Second round picks make 2+ Millionen APY. So keeping both means additional 3.5 Millionen atleast, probably more in the 4-4.5 Millionen range. And thats for 2 Guys which arent even QBs,Edge Rusher or OTs. Now add the many other high Profile Guys and its Maybe Not possible to keep everyone, but the recent National Champions have retained their Guys at an Higher rate than Georgia did and next season their Most experienced D Linemen returning in Terms of snaps Last season is theFormer 5th overall prospect in the country if i remember correctly - He is a true sophmore. Oregon has 4 Seniors or Red Shirt Seniors all of them have Like 25+ Starts. And If those Teams will face in the CFP which D Line is gonna make the difference ? My Money is on Oregon.
Ohio State is a great job for any coach. As Day has proven, you will stay near the top because of ridiculous talent. The coach can be just average. Kind of the opposite of Indiana.
I understand the Texas Longhorn appeal, but more money more problems. Mac Brown won once and they have only resurfaced recently. There are so many booster chefs in the kitchen and it takes a certain kind of coach to battle those egos who associate themselves with winning in business but not so much on the field. They are like the notre dame of the south. Coach Royal is not walking through that door and having lots of NILto throw is nice but not guaranteed. TCU owned them for the better part of the 2000s and they are 5-times a smaller school. Oklahoma has been more relevant the past 25 years with more championships and Heisman winners. They were the big Dawgs who pimp-slapped UT around. Austin is unique but it's more of a corporate hub than a college town. Norman, OK, is more of a college town. But I would take Texas Tech as a job. A college town with oil money who is dying to get in the club... which means they would appreciate it more
I think schools with fan bases who demand too much are lower on the list because most of those expectations are delusional and a coach is under so much press to meet those expectations that they can't even relax for 1 minute without worrying about their job.
Josh … about Texas … you stated NO Pro sports in Austin but you can throw a Rock & hit the Texas Rangers, Dallas Mavericks & the Dallas Cowboys … So not exactly but close enough
What about the Texas Tech job? Nicest facilities in college football, plenty of money and no expectations. Finish first or second in the Big 12 and you’re good.
@m@malikjones2193A wasn’t irrelevant, they had a good amount of success. You can be relevant without winning a natty. That being said….Kirby is the best thing that ever happened to them
@malikjones2193goofy lsu hasn’t been relevant since 2019 they been a joke of a program and haven’t sniffed a playoff appearance in the 12 team yet and won’t this year Georgia is a better program easily we have won back to back nattys been to the playoffs twice thought we lost in the 2nd round we won the sec back to back can lsu say the same hell no
Good list, but I’ve heard you positively talk about the Georgia “culture” many times.. the culture of what? When you have multiple players go to jail every year, I can’t imagine how someone would consider that a “great culture”
Could you imagine losing to your rival and getting death threats to your family from your own fanbase… before winning a natty…. And then saying this is #1 job in the country 💀
As a Texas fan I can say I would much rather coach at Oklahoma then A&M, Rivalry aside Okies are really nice normal people while on the other hand aggie is a weird cult
Paying players has made college football like baseball. There's no salary cap so it largely comes down to who can spend the most money. There's a reason the Dodgers are successful. I can completely understand why you wouldn't like this current state of affairs, but money is the name of the game right now.
@Rainmanutan Technically, if@Rainmanutanabout just the money, Stanford would be on the list. Duke would be on the list. Texas Tech spends more than most of the schools on Josh’s list. FWIW, the current state of affairs doesn’t bother me. My Dawgs are on any and all lists of high level college football. I just commented that Josh used money as his metric for determining the “top” coaching jobs in college football but left off a couple of the top paid coaches in his assessment using money as his metric.
@Rainmanutan You can’t just have $ though. Yankees spend plenty, Mets are spending almost as much as the dodgers. Phillies. Blue Jays. They are all over $300 million rosters.
How? Texas and Miami both have insane money with a ton of local talent Michigan has great money but not the same level and hardly any local talent each year. Plus they have to share that talent with another in-state B1G team
Hey Josh... Miami should probably be ranked higher.. The Dade and Broward county talent is about as good as it gets.. Future All Americans everywhere around Coral Gables..
Austin, TX is absolutely not a massive city. it has 1 million people in the city proper but only 2.5 million in the metropolitan area which is 25th in the US and FAR smaller than Dallas and Houston
Just a friendly reminder that Miami might be a top job nationally, but it has never been the best job in the ACC. 0 titles since they joined. The Hurricane has been tamed.
Framing this as best “coaching” job has quite a few layers. Environment, fans, location, $, facilities, alignment, opportunity for success. So. In some ways I can understand these rankings. Think people are confusing program ranking with whether it’s a great coaching job. Program rankings have a legacy tilt, tradition, past championships. Best coaching job “right now” has less to do with the past. Tradition, meaning being the biggest components. But your past Nattys or success have less to do with “right now going forward” People are shocked by Alabama ranking. Why? You’ve got fans with ridiculous expectations that haven’t adjusted to new realities. Alabama is not a wealthy university. It’s not a prime location either (I don’t mean on recruiting). It’s not a destination draw. Cody Campbell is not wrong. If $ is a bigger factor some traditional powers will be outpaced. Depending on buy in from alumni $. Alabama is losing in the portal. You come into that place the expectation is Natty. But the reality is they are not able to duplicate what they had. It’s not as good of a job as it was 🤷♂️
Imagine a CFB head coach job so good, that when every college and NFL program with an opening comes knocking you say no thanks. Imagine having near unlimited NIL money. Imagine keeping 100% of all playoff earnings instead of sharing with conference members. Imagine having a program with deep history and tradition. Imagine a program where former NFL athletes love to send their sons. Imagine a program that had a top recruiting class with ZERO decommits. Then imagine that is the number 9 best head coach job. LMFAO If Texas A&M is the better job, then why did they take a ND coordinator and not the head coach?
@nonot8232Nope. The most valuable college football brand is Texas followed by Texas A&M and then Ohio State in third. While Ohio State has had remarkable success in football you have to take into consideration that as a state Ohio does not even remotely compare to Texas economically. I certainly appreciate that Ohio State is an outstanding program and has accomplished more than Texas, they just don’t really compare when it comes to money.
Iowa's HC is the top job. You get paid Elite Coaches' Wages without any of their expectations. The ulitmate in job security. All you gotta do is smooge the donors and give a chunk of your paycheck to the Children's Hospital.
Elite NIL resources and Wealthy Alumni base, talent rich local recruiting base, National Recruiting appeal, Elite General Manager and Infrastructure, Top Coaching Salaries, history and tradition, Heisman Trophies and National Championships. USC right now, as built, is a Top 5 job. If Lincoln Riley does not get it done this year or next, coaches around the county will be clamoring to fill that seat. No school is better positioned in the NIL era than USC with what they have built. That makes it a Top 5 job. Not a Top 5 team yet, but a Top 5 job. Really only Texas and Ohio St can match USC when all are firing on all cylinders.
The issue USC has that its an very very competetive Market. Them firing at all cylinders IS unique but them getting to fire on all cylinders IS uniquely difficult to do.
@GLEY-dar USC got every recruit they wanted last cycle. They outbid Ohio St for Luke Wafle this year. They outbid LSU and Oregon for Jahkeem Stewart the year before. Teams aren't even trying anymore to outbid them. They have fertile recruiting all in driving distance, and can throw money at out of state studs. USC IS firing on all cylinders right now. You will see the results this year and next.
@xxTheWhiteShadowxxNow they have a Lot of Money to spend on additions,because they dont have as much high Level Guys they have to spend a Lot of Money to keep. Oregon has 4 Seniors/Red Shirt Seniors on their D Line which in my eyes all could have been drafted. Plus an Guy at QB which was projected to be an top 5 Overall Pick...
@EB_3D No, its a Top 5 job right now. Lincoln Riley makes like $13 Million per year. So the job pays top dollar. They have a fertile recruiting ground within 20 miles of the school. They have elite NIL. They have a brand new football facility opening in June. They have LA, beaches, and weather. They have tradition. This is all in place right now. Its a Top 5 job.
Id put 1. OSU 2. Georgia Those 2 have been super consistent since 2000 they won 5 of the last 25 nattys and mostly always win 10 games a year since then too and their fans are insane and bring the $ too for NIL , 3. Texas as of recent 4. LSU if they decide to win 10 games again with all their talent and wasted money. They should never be bad. 5. Toss up between Oregon or Alabama
In my opinion Texas Tech is a better job than A&M. It’s definitely a top 15 job with what you have on your current list. If they dominate the Big 12 again and get to a National Semi-Final next year it’s a top 10 job.
Damn, Josh. This list not including Oklahoma makes me almost physically ill. A&M and Oregon being in there and OU isn’t is just fucking nuts. OU has as many National Championships as Texas and Texas A&M COMBINED. Oregon has how many????? I’m hearing fucking crickets right now.
Exactly, you lose and no one cares because no one went to the game anyway, a perfect retirement job. Miami is the job i would want as someone who isnt a football coach
That’s more a function of all the recreational options Miami offers over 99% of the country. When Miami is poor/average, the locals will choose to do 100 others things in town.
@John_HooverAlso, people need to realize that Miami is an 'event city' people ain't going if they dont feel its an event. If they feel the game isnt of major importance, than they're staying home, or doing a million other things.
Love you, Pate, but this video is not titled correctly. You are rating the jobs with the current coach. You should have titled it best current programs. Best jobs implies the head coach position is vacant. In almost every team's discussion, you mentioned the coach as a plus-up for the program.
I think putting many of these schools above Oklahoma is a mistake. You may remember yourself saying a few months ago that OU has absolutely everything you could ever want as a head coach. They have the budget, the talent pool, they're great recruiters, but honestly I think what sets them apart is the fan base and administrative support. For a long time OU has been a powerhouse because of the consistency behind the curtain. That's not something you can put a price on. I'd argue top 5, but man they have to at least make the list! To your credit, this is the first time in the 6 months of listening that I've really disagreed with you on something. I love the show, keep doing what you're doing!
@EB_3D I don't think that you understand what we are talking about. We are not questioning Notre Dame's money or fan base. Notre Dame has more money than God (lol! Its fan base is LEGENDARY and worldwide. Millions of people believe that ND invented college football! We are (ahem) questioning Josh's comments about Marcus Freeman and ND's "ceiling." T
@dragonsurge1 I totally agree with you. His comments about Notre Dame's "glass ceiling" makes no sense at all. Is he saying that he thought Notre Dame had a "glass ceiling" because Kelly left? If so, he clearly doesn't know what the glass ceiling is. Furthermore, your question is right on point. If Freeman leaves for (ahem) greener pastures, what does that say about how good a job being the ND head coach is? Kelly left after 11 seasons. Freeman has only been there four. Also, how did he "not just break the glass ceiling," but prove that it wasn't there?"
Ohio State has a couple of huge advantages...its located in Columbus which is a pretty big city now, it's the only real College Football team in a Football crazy State & it has great tradition. The negative...most of us Bucknuts expect to win every game by 4 touchdowns or more lmao 🤣.....& we got the Greatest Rivalry in Sports, with Michigan. Yeah we hate them & hate us but look at the record books boys & bots...Michigan has the most wins ever & we have the highest winning % of all times. Maybe the crazy Rivalry drives that?
I am a Miami fan and no way is it a top 10 job. Disagree that Oregon and Texas AM are top 10 as well. USC, Penn State, Oklahoma, and Florida are top 10 candidates
To quote Jayz said, men lie, women lie, numbers dont lie. You are terriblly wrong as you often are. Alabama is the most watched program, always a top 5 recruiting class and still when down are a perennial winner. You have to not be s prisoner of the moment. Pick up your pace. Roll tide
9:59 When it comes to Miami you have to also mention the fact that Miami has the most active alum base in college football. No other program has so many ex-alum players attend practices, attend games, help actively recruit for Mario. Name me a single college football team that has a Michael Irvin on the sidelines. "Im a god you dull creature. Yeah, well we have a Michael Irvin" There is no single college football program that has so many ex-alums stand on the sidelines in almost every single game. Andre Johnson, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Edgerin James, just to name a few will be on the sidelines in almsot every game (not all at once, just collectively). That along with everything youve said pushes Miami into the Top 3 in my opinion
I agree Miami currently has that title. Before Brian Kelly LSU was doing the same but something in his bird brain decided to alienate that alumni and keep them away from practices and other events
USC is pretty much the best job right now as they: have outrageous Nil, have access to Los Angeles (incredble brands deals, celebs, best weather in the world, within 2 hours of the biggest talent pool of 25M people, tremedous alumni network and job opportunties), are buiding the biggest and best football athletic center in the country, have a gorgeous campus with a ton of amenties, have a great AD, offer a world class education and degree and so forth. They are far from the best program right now, but any good coach could turn USC into dynasty with these kinds of over the top resources.
You talked about cities with over a million and no pro football..... Well Oklahoma has a pro team....... It's the Sooners.... You talk about everyone pulling in the SAME direction..... Have you ever HEARD Coach Venables talk???? Do you think ANYONE in that building ISN'T pulling with him? Can OU RECRUIT??? Have you seen the defense? Also......How many Heisman winners have come through our doors in JUST the 21st century???? Hell, how many should've won the Heisman? The fact Adrian Peterson doesn't have a Heisman is criminal...... Hell we make coaches too, Lincoln Riley won MUTIPLE conference titles and made the playoffs year-after-year...... But as soon as he left, he fell FLAT on his face.....He had a little success with the players he STOLE from OU, but since they left.....NOTHING..... And you know the players Texas can't get??? The ones playing for the Sooners.....tx tries to recruit almost every player that comes through our doors and they fail every year.... Leaving Oklahoma off the list is dam near criminal.....
Ou ain’t did nothing since Riley left 😂😂😂😂😂Oklahoma ain’t got no pro football team Riley took four players to usc stop acting like he took a whole team 😂😂
@tommyjones774Hey, DUMB-DUMB, you forgot to count the recruits that left for usc...... Also did you forget that OU made the playoffs last year? And what is Riley doing?? Oh right, he's on the hotseat..... Pretty sure usc will fire him if he doesn't perform this year......😅😂🤣
Alabama is a small state (8 electoral votes) and has to compete against Auburn. Nick Saban and Bear Bryant were anomalies. Alabama football was pretty mediocre following Bryant up until Saban came. I think Gene Stallings won the national championship in 1992.
Yeah administration is holding fsu and Florida back. FSU won’t let go of their coach and Florida won’t invest in NIL as much as rival sec programs, not even for golden who just won a natty.
@RandomDudeOYTTennessee does have all those things you are correct. They don’t have those things to the degree of the rest of the programs on this list though. They’re not spending as much as a Oregon, Texas, Texas A&M, or Ohio State, they aren’t a bigger brand than Michigan, Bama, or ND, and they don’t have the caliber recruits in their backyard regularly as a Georgia, LSU or Miami. So yes Tennessee has a case to be an honorable mention possibly, but not enough to crack the list
outside of Texas, A&M, Michigan, ND and Ohio State, I disagree. Tennessee has just as much resources as Bama, LSU and Georgia. Tennessee has far more money and donors than Bama wishes it had.
@R@RandomDudeOYTthe Bama and LSU brand outclass Tennessee and they still have nearly the same resources. Very few kids are picking Tennessee over Bama or LSU unless they get to play early or have significant ties to the school itself. If a starting position is available for a kid early, their choosing the other two 9 times out of 10. And Tennessee has talent, but they don’t have Bama or LSU’s pipelines. Tennessee has great things to offer, but they don’t as much as others overall is all I’m saying. They may have money to throw down with Bama or LSU, but you won’t have the draw or the appeal that they have. If all 3 had a job opening, Tennessee is the last choice.
@KhalilDashawnwatch what happens the longer the NIL game continues, Bama doesn’t have the same money LSU or Tennessee has. They dont have the billionaires or the deep pockets the top echelon of the SEC does. Give it time, they will slip. If they don’t win and win soon, that Saban effect will be completely gone. They will eat the next coach alive and then it will be cyclical. Same thing happened to Tennessee after Fulmer, Penn State after Joe Pa, Nebraska after Osbourne. Bama is about to get a back to reality check they aren’t ready for. Problem for them is the money isn’t behind them.
Georgia is #1. Hell, even Saban said so when he was at Bama. Hell, you said so less than two years ago. I saw you say it. That job doesn't drop from #1 to #4 in two years. LSU sure as hell isn't a better job. You're kind of full of it Josh. You could make an argument for Ohio State being #1, maybe even Texas, but LSU ahead of Georgia, no way.
Notre Dame is hands down the best coaching job in the nation. You can play the cookie cutter easiest strength of Schedule every year and then cry and throw a fit if you don’t make the playoff because you lost to the only good teams you’ve played. And best of all you can skate on in to the playoffs every year without even playing a conference championship
That's true. Modernity doesn't define tradition and excellence because that was all in the past. It might be time for you to acknowledge that tradition and past excellence doesn't necessarily define modernity. Otherwise Yale, who still has the most college football championships, would be a top 10 coaching job as well.
Tradition on some level has been overrated in this conversation. You being successful 20 years ago means nothing to recruits unless you're still winning now. It means more to fans than players
I'd say Michigan is number 1. We have the most snobby fan base, and of course there's a direct correlation between snobbyness and greatness, by way of common sense. Why would we be so snobby for any other reason other than we are the greatest program. Again, common sense.
First off. Austin Texas is a terrible place and is going downhill faster everyday. And if we're putting that much weight on the city the school is in Michigan should be higher. Ann Arbor always coninuously ranked #1 in the country by every metric one would use to rank communty.
Yup. Also Austin, TX is absolutely not a massive city. it has 1 million people in the city proper but only 2.5 million in the metropolitan area which is 25th in the US and FAR smaller than Dallas and Houston
"Michigan #10 because of administrative issues" says an outsider who doesn't realize it's the best athletic department in college sports. Basketball is a powerhouse, hockey is #1 in America, Women's basketball is in the sweet 16, and the list goes on. The last head coach was a mess. That doesn't mean the institution is. I expect Whitt to dominate with a top 5 NIL bag in the country.
You're right. Michigan has been good in athletics for 125 years. Fred Flintstone could be the AD there and they would still be good in almost everything. They have more Big 10 championship (men and women) than any other school in the conference. Illinois is second and Michigan has twice as many Big 10 championships than the Illini.
Agreed. Michigan at 10 is certainly too low. I thought the list had way too much recency bias in general. Bama that low is also insane, with all their history and top 5 money it makes zero sense.
No Penn State love Josh? When James was there choking every big game you gave all kinds of love. But now with a real coach, hundreds of millions of dollars worth of stadium upgrades, and all kinds of NIL support NOTHING??!!
Penn state is broke. And Campbell is getting destroyed next season and in the future Penn state is a bad job not a real football team it’s a wannabe football school
Any top-10 list without UF is garbage. UF won two titles since many of the teams on this list (e.g., Texas, Miami, Notre Dame, etc.) won their last one. These sound like talking points from the 80s.
I'm sure there will be absolutely no disagreements on this list and everyone will be perfectly happy and respectful about it
lol
Seems pretty good to me…
We college football fans are a truly fanatical bunch.There will be disagreement, but likely no fist fights
I don't know how LSU has been awful this entire decade and is immediately better than Alabama? Lane has never been an actual great coach.
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If USC is willing to spend NIL money, they’re easily a top five job. Which they did this past recruiting class and appear to be doing the same with the next one
Na that ain’t it
Lincoln Riley ain't the guy
Lincoln Riley can prove it then soon
Bro are they willing to spend double the NIL money another school will offer because to live in LA is gonna cost these kids double maybe more than it would cost most other places. Plus the taxes. Collin Cowherd who lives in LA broke this down with Josh better than I am.
I'm sure they spend but the taxes take most of it
Miami in the early 80s, changed the atmosphere of blueblood schools, dominating with unlimited resources and talent.
Probably the most dominating 10-year stretch in the modern era. Look at 1983-92. Go Canes!
This anit the 80s
One criteria you missed is how entitled in the fan base and administration? How long of a leash are you going to have? If you have two years in a row of first round exits from the cfp going to find you fired?
Pretty decent list. The Miami job might be a little overhyped right now.
You're crazy!!! Miami is in south Florida properly the top recruiting base in the nation there's a reason everybody SEC, BIG 10 schools, ACC schools stay down there recruiting, & that's Miamis recruiting base that's why they called Miami a sleeping Giant because the only people who can stop Miami from being great & dominating college football again is Miami & now that they finally have the right people there & are taking college football serious again it's a wrap they're about to dominate
@stormwarning522 They do have Florida and Florida State to compete against. Florida and Florida State have each won three national championships since 1993 and Miami has won 5 since 1983. That is incredible to me that the state of Florida at various times has had three POWERHOUSES! Ohio State is fortunate in that it is one of the three largest universities in the country and is the only football powerhouse in the state. Most of the state of Ohio (except Cincinnati) backs OSU. Toledo is half and half OSU and Michigan fans. Some people in Ohio refer to Toledo as Toledo, Michigan and Cincinnati as Cincinnati, Kentucky.
@stormwarning522 yeah ok. They've been in possibly the most fertile recruiting area for decades and according to some "about to dominate". We'll see if it ever happens because they definitely weren't "dominant" this year. At the bare minimum anyone unbiased can easily name at least 7 jobs better.
It’s not. Miami isn’t Top 5 now bc they just played for a national championship, although that helps. They are Top 5 bc the investment, resources, and alignment with the administration, including president and AD, is unreal. The amount of operating money the university is generating from the UHealth network and its corporate partnerships is unreal, and the City and what opportunities and good times it has to offer players and recruits is perfectly situated for the NIL/transfer portal era when players driving expensive cars, living in waterfront homes, and taking off season yacht trips and nights out on Miami Beach are totally permissible benefits in the new era of CFB.
@kyleberglin5067 Miami doesn't regularly sign the top 5 recruits in South Florida. That makes the regional recruiting advantage not as impactful. Their fanbase is fair weather. That makes the staff under less pressure than the every year contenders. They have money but as a smaller private school, it's not more money than the top 5 programs. I would say that their BRAND is top 5 but that's it. Those are the reasons why I am saying that the job might be a little overhyped if anyone is ranking them as a top 5 job.
Lmao SEC homer pate! USC not a top 10 job…. Fight on ✌🏽
I'm an Ohio State grad and coached there (different sport). I love Buckeye football, but I'm not sure it's a great job. You can have the highest winning % in CFB history, as Day does, but any time you stub your toe, the "haters" come at you like a tsunami. Even though in 136 years of Buckeye football, there have been only six undefeated/untied seasons, if you don't meet that standard, the "Fire the coach" idiots come out of the woodwork, and your kids get harassed. Ohio, while still a good HS football state, isn't prime recruiting territory anymore. You have to steal kids out of the Sun Belt to be nationally competitive. Yes, I want the Buckeyes to win every game and national championship every year, and I am disappointed when they don't, but I think I can keep things in perspective. The Nick Saban run of the 2010s is never going to happen again, by anybody.
Heres the thing. I don't think it's true, the narrative that OSU fans have a larger percentage of idiots thinking they know better for the program, they just have higher standards because of the resources, brand, history, etc. But, they also have those expectations especially in the regular season because the schedule is so often easy. If OSU loses two games in a regular season, they either lost to someone they really shouldn't have or lost every game that wasn't a guarantee. This year is the toughest schedule I've seen in a long time for OSU and it still is pretty mild. Ryan Day has a great record but there were a lot more questions about whether he was performing at the level worth not looking for a better candidate pre 2025 champ run
@Babou4573the regular season schedules are NO EASIER than they've always been and, as I cited, Ohio State has had ONLY SIX UNDEFEATED/UNTIED SEASONS IN 136 YEARS! Buckeye "fans" expectations are so far out of whack with historical realities it isn't funny. It is INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT to go undefeated and always has been and to demand that type of perfection is ridiculous!
Buckeye fans are the most delusional entitled fans out there. This is well known.
It's the best job because the entire state revolves around the team. There is no other school to share the state with for funds etc. think mich-mich st, auburn alabama, hell virginia virginia tech and so on.
@scottwolf5952 And it's that point that also makes it a tough job. Every Ohioan thinks it's their birthright to have undefeated, national championship seasons every year, no matter how unrealistic that is; anything else is unacceptable.
The Miami take grew on me being that high on the list. If you've spent time in Miami I don't know how players don't want to be there. The city and atmosphere of being in Miami alone is crazy. Especially now that they're winning.
How would you rate Mizzou as a job and as a program? Managed to keep Drink in one of the craziest coaching carousels ever, and he was mentioned for almost every job.
Im okay with Pate's list, and im a Bama fan. #8? Imagine that😅😅
I think this year will tell if Georgia needs to adapt it's spending model or if it's still effective. No one thinks of Georgia as "huge money" like OSU, Texas, Miami, etc, because they have a different model which attempts retainment and who they go after. I truly don't know which way it will go.
I think they dont have the Money the schools you mention have. Atleast Ohio State and Texas.
Also Oregon for example. Georgia Had an fringe First round DT (Miller) and an top 60ish Pick WR (Branch) declare while Oregon Had an fringe First round DT (Washington), and top 60ish Edge (Uiagalelei) Return in addition to their QB which was protected to Go top 5.
In my opinion a Lot of the recent succes of the Big 10 schools over the SEC schools can be explained by their better ability to keep decent to (very) good NFL prospects from Entering the NFL draft for 1 year (which has an big NIL Part i assume).
@GLEY-dar
Depends what you are talking about.
Football program revenue $? Alumni $? School endowment $? NIL collective $?
@FooballsickoNIL. Which is correlated to an extend to the other Points.
@GLEY-darGeorgia actually does have lots of money Kirby just not finna sell out for unproven players that somtimes turn into just hype
@Ghost_618nationThey do have a lot of Money. But they are not at the Tier of Texas,Ohio State or Oregon. And i dont see them having the Potential to getting there Like i See with LSU or USC.
Look at my example with Miller and Branch:
Late first round picks make 12+ Millionen on an 4 year Deal. Which means 3+Millionen APY. So in Order for College Teams to keep an fringe First round pick even with an Discount for liking to be there and an Chance to Develop and increase His draft Stock it Takes atleast 2 Millionen. Second round picks make 2+ Millionen APY. So keeping both means additional 3.5 Millionen atleast, probably more in the 4-4.5 Millionen range.
And thats for 2 Guys which arent even QBs,Edge Rusher or OTs. Now add the many other high Profile Guys and its Maybe Not possible to keep everyone, but the recent National Champions have retained their Guys at an Higher rate than Georgia did and next season their Most experienced D Linemen returning in Terms of snaps Last season is theFormer 5th overall prospect in the country if i remember correctly - He is a true sophmore. Oregon has 4 Seniors or Red Shirt Seniors all of them have Like 25+ Starts. And If those Teams will face in the CFP which D Line is gonna make the difference ?
My Money is on Oregon.
Mr clean talks football now I’ve seen everything
I know folks hate Ohio State and I get it. But they just don't have down seasons. Maybe the last time when coach Luke was there in 2011.
Ohio State is a great job for any coach. As Day has proven, you will stay near the top because of ridiculous talent. The coach can be just average. Kind of the opposite of Indiana.
I understand the Texas Longhorn appeal, but more money more problems. Mac Brown won once and they have only resurfaced recently. There are so many booster chefs in the kitchen and it takes a certain kind of coach to battle those egos who associate themselves with winning in business but not so much on the field. They are like the notre dame of the south. Coach Royal is not walking through that door and having lots of NILto throw is nice but not guaranteed. TCU owned them for the better part of the 2000s and they are 5-times a smaller school.
Oklahoma has been more relevant the past 25 years with more championships and Heisman winners. They were the big Dawgs who pimp-slapped UT around. Austin is unique but it's more of a corporate hub than a college town. Norman, OK, is more of a college town.
But I would take Texas Tech as a job. A college town with oil money who is dying to get in the club... which means they would appreciate it more
I think schools with fan bases who demand too much are lower on the list because most of those expectations are delusional and a coach is under so much press to meet those expectations that they can't even relax for 1 minute without worrying about their job.
Josh … about Texas … you stated NO Pro sports in Austin but you can throw a Rock & hit the Texas Rangers, Dallas Mavericks & the Dallas Cowboys … So not exactly but close enough
What about the Texas Tech job? Nicest facilities in college football, plenty of money and no expectations. Finish first or second in the Big 12 and you’re good.
Nobody wants to go to lubbock bro😂
@aleniafuvaieveryone in Amarillo wishes they were in Lubbock! 😊
@mikeskeen6108thats true 😂
LSU a better job than UGA? Ask the two last coaches that were fired.
Orgeron would agree it’s the best job and he got in his own way. Brian Kelly was a bad fit and deserved everything that happened
UGA irrelevant until Kirby Smart. LSU has won with multiple head coaches
@m@malikjones2193A wasn’t irrelevant, they had a good amount of success. You can be relevant without winning a natty. That being said….Kirby is the best thing that ever happened to them
Saban said the best job in America is UGA lol. Saban coached at LSwho
@malikjones2193goofy lsu hasn’t been relevant since 2019 they been a joke of a program and haven’t sniffed a playoff appearance in the 12 team yet and won’t this year Georgia is a better program easily we have won back to back nattys been to the playoffs twice thought we lost in the 2nd round we won the sec back to back can lsu say the same hell no
Good list, but I’ve heard you positively talk about the Georgia “culture” many times.. the culture of what? When you have multiple players go to jail every year, I can’t imagine how someone would consider that a “great culture”
Could you imagine losing to your rival and getting death threats to your family from your own fanbase… before winning a natty…. And then saying this is #1 job in the country 💀
As a Texas fan I can say I would much rather coach at Oklahoma then A&M, Rivalry aside Okies are really nice normal people while on the other hand aggie is a weird cult
Brian Kelly had a ceiling because Brian Kelly didn’t have the NIL freedom Marcus Freeman has. You have to keep that in mind.
So why did he fail at LSU?
So money is the only metric being used to decide the “top” college football coaching jobs.
Paying players has made college football like baseball. There's no salary cap so it largely comes down to who can spend the most money. There's a reason the Dodgers are successful. I can completely understand why you wouldn't like this current state of affairs, but money is the name of the game right now.
@Rainmanutan Technically, if@Rainmanutanabout just the money, Stanford would be on the list. Duke would be on the list. Texas Tech spends more than most of the schools on Josh’s list. FWIW, the current state of affairs doesn’t bother me. My Dawgs are on any and all lists of high level college football. I just commented that Josh used money as his metric for determining the “top” coaching jobs in college football but left off a couple of the top paid coaches in his assessment using money as his metric.
@Rainmanutan
You can’t just have $ though. Yankees spend plenty, Mets are spending almost as much as the dodgers. Phillies. Blue Jays. They are all over $300 million rosters.
In the current NIL market what else is there?
not bad, would have to swap out Texas or Miami for Michigan.
Miami yes....Texas....Nope.
How?
Texas and Miami both have insane money with a ton of local talent
Michigan has great money but not the same level and hardly any local talent each year.
Plus they have to share that talent with another in-state B1G team
Hey Josh... Miami should probably be ranked higher.. The Dade and Broward county talent is about as good as it gets.. Future All Americans everywhere around Coral Gables..
Could throw Florida state in there too
Easily #1.
Where else can you win 2 games a year while get paid tens of millions with rock solid job security?
Austin, TX is absolutely not a massive city. it has 1 million people in the city proper but only 2.5 million in the metropolitan area which is 25th in the US and FAR smaller than Dallas and Houston
Dallas only has a little over a million population, Its the entire DFW metroplex that is massive
OU is top 10, Jim Nagy has completely turned into a recruiting machine, dallas a few hours down the road, oil money, winningest program in history
If it wasn't for the state of Texas.....OU wouldn't Be Great. Thank Texas...not Nagy
@earnestpeeplesjr8948now wait just a damn minute…………actually, that’s pretty accurate.
Just a friendly reminder that Miami might be a top job nationally, but it has never been the best job in the ACC. 0 titles since they joined. The Hurricane has been tamed.
Framing this as best “coaching” job has quite a few layers. Environment, fans, location, $, facilities, alignment, opportunity for success.
So. In some ways I can understand these rankings.
Think people are confusing program ranking with whether it’s a great coaching job. Program rankings have a legacy tilt, tradition, past championships.
Best coaching job “right now” has less to do with the past. Tradition, meaning being the biggest components. But your past Nattys or success have less to do with “right now going forward”
People are shocked by Alabama ranking. Why?
You’ve got fans with ridiculous expectations that haven’t adjusted to new realities. Alabama is not a wealthy university. It’s not a prime location either (I don’t mean on recruiting). It’s not a destination draw.
Cody Campbell is not wrong. If $ is a bigger factor some traditional powers will be outpaced. Depending on buy in from alumni $.
Alabama is losing in the portal. You come into that place the expectation is Natty. But the reality is they are not able to duplicate what they had. It’s not as good of a job as it was 🤷♂️
Imagine a CFB head coach job so good, that when every college and NFL program with an opening comes knocking you say no thanks. Imagine having near unlimited NIL money. Imagine keeping 100% of all playoff earnings instead of sharing with conference members. Imagine having a program with deep history and tradition. Imagine a program where former NFL athletes love to send their sons. Imagine a program that had a top recruiting class with ZERO decommits. Then imagine that is the number 9 best head coach job. LMFAO
If Texas A&M is the better job, then why did they take a ND coordinator and not the head coach?
Evidently Troy Polamolu and Justin Herbert didn't grow up in Oregon. Zero players here lol
There is more money in single zip codes in Texas than there is in the entire states of all of these schools other than Miami.
Osu’s brand is more valuable than Texas’s
@nonot8232Nope. The most valuable college football brand is Texas followed by Texas A&M and then Ohio State in third. While Ohio State has had remarkable success in football you have to take into consideration that as a state Ohio does not even remotely compare to Texas economically. I certainly appreciate that Ohio State is an outstanding program and has accomplished more than Texas, they just don’t really compare when it comes to money.
Josh, “resources” $$$ Tell me I’m wrong!
Iowa's HC is the top job. You get paid Elite Coaches' Wages without any of their expectations. The ulitmate in job security. All you gotta do is smooge the donors and give a chunk of your paycheck to the Children's Hospital.
Did you forget Oklahoma exists?
That’s boring lol
Yes
Elite NIL resources and Wealthy Alumni base, talent rich local recruiting base, National Recruiting appeal, Elite General Manager and Infrastructure, Top Coaching Salaries, history and tradition, Heisman Trophies and National Championships. USC right now, as built, is a Top 5 job. If Lincoln Riley does not get it done this year or next, coaches around the county will be clamoring to fill that seat. No school is better positioned in the NIL era than USC with what they have built. That makes it a Top 5 job. Not a Top 5 team yet, but a Top 5 job. Really only Texas and Ohio St can match USC when all are firing on all cylinders.
The issue USC has that its an very very competetive Market. Them firing at all cylinders IS unique but them getting to fire on all cylinders IS uniquely difficult to do.
@GLEY-dar USC got every recruit they wanted last cycle. They outbid Ohio St for Luke Wafle this year. They outbid LSU and Oregon for Jahkeem Stewart the year before. Teams aren't even trying anymore to outbid them. They have fertile recruiting all in driving distance, and can throw money at out of state studs. USC IS firing on all cylinders right now. You will see the results this year and next.
@xxTheWhiteShadowxxNow they have a Lot of Money to spend on additions,because they dont have as much high Level Guys they have to spend a Lot of Money to keep. Oregon has 4 Seniors/Red Shirt Seniors on their D Line which in my eyes all could have been drafted.
Plus an Guy at QB which was projected to be an top 5 Overall Pick...
USC has the POTENTIAL to be a top 5 job, but as of right now without some work it is not a top 5 job
@EB_3D No, its a Top 5 job right now. Lincoln Riley makes like $13 Million per year. So the job pays top dollar. They have a fertile recruiting ground within 20 miles of the school. They have elite NIL. They have a brand new football facility opening in June. They have LA, beaches, and weather. They have tradition. This is all in place right now. Its a Top 5 job.
Austin texas has an MLS team, but that probably doesn't apply to american football
Id put
1. OSU
2. Georgia
Those 2 have been super consistent since 2000 they won 5 of the last 25 nattys and mostly always win 10 games a year since then too and their fans are insane and bring the $ too for NIL ,
3. Texas as of recent
4. LSU if they decide to win 10 games again with all their talent and wasted money. They should never be bad.
5. Toss up between Oregon or Alabama
And yet LSU is always coming and going from great to good to some bad seasons. It’s who they are forever.
Georgia didn't win anything until Kirby. Sure they were above average with Richt, but they weren't a top 10 program or anywhere near it
In my opinion Texas Tech is a better job than A&M. It’s definitely a top 15 job with what you have on your current list. If they dominate the Big 12 again and get to a National Semi-Final next year it’s a top 10 job.
I am here for the Miami hate ! 😁 🍿👀
#ItsAllAboutTheU 🙌
Damn, Josh. This list not including Oklahoma makes me almost physically ill. A&M and Oregon being in there and OU isn’t is just fucking nuts. OU has as many National Championships as Texas and Texas A&M COMBINED. Oregon has how many????? I’m hearing fucking crickets right now.
Miami? Stadium half empty unless they are playing another Fla University or ND !
Exactly, you lose and no one cares because no one went to the game anyway, a perfect retirement job. Miami is the job i would want as someone who isnt a football coach
It must taste good to choke on Miami’s meat stick ha Eddie. Tell me, do you swallow it or spit it out?
No one wants to live in Tuscaloosa
That’s more a function of all the recreational options Miami offers over 99% of the country. When Miami is poor/average, the locals will choose to do 100 others things in town.
@John_HooverAlso, people need to realize that Miami is an 'event city' people ain't going if they dont feel its an event. If they feel the game isnt of major importance, than they're staying home, or doing a million other things.
Oklahoma smokeshow.
Love you, Pate, but this video is not titled correctly. You are rating the jobs with the current coach. You should have titled it best current programs. Best jobs implies the head coach position is vacant. In almost every team's discussion, you mentioned the coach as a plus-up for the program.
Penn state fans are gonna throw a fit for not being on this list lol
Penn state isn’t even a top 25 top kiddo
@Jrm-xs9qioh I know that. But their fans are delusional
FSU. Where else can you make this much money, be this much of a failure, and have ironclad job security?
🤣🤣🤣🤣
You could talk about the cheating Michigan likes to do too
I think putting many of these schools above Oklahoma is a mistake. You may remember yourself saying a few months ago that OU has absolutely everything you could ever want as a head coach. They have the budget, the talent pool, they're great recruiters, but honestly I think what sets them apart is the fan base and administrative support. For a long time OU has been a powerhouse because of the consistency behind the curtain. That's not something you can put a price on. I'd argue top 5, but man they have to at least make the list! To your credit, this is the first time in the 6 months of listening that I've really disagreed with you on something. I love the show, keep doing what you're doing!
Nope it’s boring in Oklahoma
Miami at 5 😂😂😂😂
I don't understand what you mean about Marcus Freeman "breaking the glass ceiling" on how good the job is.
Because it doesn’t make sense.
Everyone agrees Marcus Freeman is a very talented coach.
If he leaves, what makes Notre Dame a good job?
@dragonsurge1 money, fanbase?
@EB_3D
I don't think that you understand what we are talking about.
We are not questioning Notre Dame's money or fan base.
Notre Dame has more money than God (lol! Its fan base is LEGENDARY and worldwide. Millions of people believe that ND invented college football!
We are (ahem) questioning Josh's comments about Marcus Freeman and ND's "ceiling."
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@dragonsurge1
I totally agree with you.
His comments about Notre Dame's "glass ceiling" makes no sense at all.
Is he saying that he thought Notre Dame had a "glass ceiling" because Kelly left?
If so, he clearly doesn't know what the glass ceiling is.
Furthermore, your question is right on point.
If Freeman leaves for (ahem) greener pastures, what does that say about how good a job being the ND head coach is?
Kelly left after 11 seasons. Freeman has only been there four.
Also, how did he "not just break the glass ceiling," but prove that it wasn't there?"
Yeah, bro.... Michigan is a better job than USC.... lol good call.
Ohio State has a couple of huge advantages...its located in Columbus which is a pretty big city now, it's the only real College Football team in a Football crazy State & it has great tradition. The negative...most of us Bucknuts expect to win every game by 4 touchdowns or more lmao 🤣.....& we got the Greatest Rivalry in Sports, with Michigan. Yeah we hate them & hate us but look at the record books boys & bots...Michigan has the most wins ever & we have the highest winning % of all times. Maybe the crazy Rivalry drives that?
I am a Miami fan and no way is it a top 10 job. Disagree that Oregon and Texas AM are top 10 as well. USC, Penn State, Oklahoma, and Florida are top 10 candidates
USC has slipped, but after all it is in LA.....enough said. Florida has everything over Miami except money.
1 Ajaba.a
2 Ohio State
3 Georgia
Right now
Gotta have OU in the top ten bro. Cmon Josh what are u smoking
To quote Jayz said, men lie, women lie, numbers dont lie. You are terriblly wrong as you often are. Alabama is the most watched program, always a top 5 recruiting class and still when down are a perennial winner. You have to not be s prisoner of the moment. Pick up your pace. Roll tide
9:59 When it comes to Miami you have to also mention the fact that Miami has the most active alum base in college football. No other program has so many ex-alum players attend practices, attend games, help actively recruit for Mario. Name me a single college football team that has a Michael Irvin on the sidelines. "Im a god you dull creature. Yeah, well we have a Michael Irvin" There is no single college football program that has so many ex-alums stand on the sidelines in almost every single game. Andre Johnson, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Edgerin James, just to name a few will be on the sidelines in almsot every game (not all at once, just collectively). That along with everything youve said pushes Miami into the Top 3 in my opinion
I agree Miami currently has that title. Before Brian Kelly LSU was doing the same but something in his bird brain decided to alienate that alumni and keep them away from practices and other events
Miami has no fan support! They can’t even get an advantage in a home game natty. I’d say that hurts them. Having cracked out irvin isn’t an advantage
USC is pretty much the best job right now as they: have outrageous Nil, have access to Los Angeles (incredble brands deals, celebs, best weather in the world, within 2 hours of the biggest talent pool of 25M people, tremedous alumni network and job opportunties), are buiding the biggest and best football athletic center in the country, have a gorgeous campus with a ton of amenties, have a great AD, offer a world class education and degree and so forth. They are far from the best program right now, but any good coach could turn USC into dynasty with these kinds of over the top resources.
U are wrong a usually. I would put ohio state oregron Michigan and now Indiana ahead of USC
@clarencewalder2985 Indiana boring have you been there 😂😂😂😂
Florida is in hibernation.
You talked about cities with over a million and no pro football.....
Well Oklahoma has a pro team.......
It's the Sooners....
You talk about everyone pulling in the SAME direction.....
Have you ever HEARD Coach Venables talk????
Do you think ANYONE in that building ISN'T pulling with him?
Can OU RECRUIT???
Have you seen the defense?
Also......How many Heisman winners have come through our doors in JUST the 21st century????
Hell, how many should've won the Heisman? The fact Adrian Peterson doesn't have a Heisman is criminal......
Hell we make coaches too, Lincoln Riley won MUTIPLE conference titles and made the playoffs year-after-year......
But as soon as he left, he fell FLAT on his face.....He had a little success with the players he STOLE from OU, but since they left.....NOTHING.....
And you know the players Texas can't get???
The ones playing for the Sooners.....tx tries to recruit almost every player that comes through our doors and they fail every year....
Leaving Oklahoma off the list is dam near criminal.....
Ou ain’t did nothing since Riley left 😂😂😂😂😂Oklahoma ain’t got no pro football team Riley took four players to usc stop acting like he took a whole team 😂😂
@tommyjones774Hey, DUMB-DUMB, you forgot to count the recruits that left for usc......
Also did you forget that OU made the playoffs last year?
And what is Riley doing?? Oh right, he's on the hotseat.....
Pretty sure usc will fire him if he doesn't perform this year......😅😂🤣
Clicked off the video as soon as I heard Alabama at 8 and A&M at 7, we cannot be serious
Money money money ….. moneeeeeey
@Fooballsickoright now is accurate. Saban spoiled that program and fan base.
If bama is on the list, Oklahoma should definitely be on there also.
Alabama is a small state (8 electoral votes) and has to compete against Auburn. Nick Saban and Bear Bryant were anomalies. Alabama football was pretty mediocre following Bryant up until Saban came. I think Gene Stallings won the national championship in 1992.
@Fooballsicko Bama is top 5 in money, so using money as an argument as to why they're not in the top 5 makes no sense
Florida is absolutely a top 10 job if administration was on the same page for football. 😂
Yeah administration is holding fsu and Florida back. FSU won’t let go of their coach and Florida won’t invest in NIL as much as rival sec programs, not even for golden who just won a natty.
Stick to basketball
@carsonmarcil5235They’re both broke
But it’s not. So it ain’t. On the brightside, at least you’re not FSU. That school in Tallahassee is currently a dumpster fire
There was never a ceiling on ND, there was just a ceiling on Brian Kelly.
No, Tennessee is wild. Facilities, check. Alignment, check. FanBase, check. Money, check. What more do you want?
@RandomDudeOYTTennessee does have all those things you are correct. They don’t have those things to the degree of the rest of the programs on this list though. They’re not spending as much as a Oregon, Texas, Texas A&M, or Ohio State, they aren’t a bigger brand than Michigan, Bama, or ND, and they don’t have the caliber recruits in their backyard regularly as a Georgia, LSU or Miami. So yes Tennessee has a case to be an honorable mention possibly, but not enough to crack the list
outside of Texas, A&M, Michigan, ND and Ohio State, I disagree. Tennessee has just as much resources as Bama, LSU and Georgia. Tennessee has far more money and donors than Bama wishes it had.
@R@RandomDudeOYTthe Bama and LSU brand outclass Tennessee and they still have nearly the same resources. Very few kids are picking Tennessee over Bama or LSU unless they get to play early or have significant ties to the school itself. If a starting position is available for a kid early, their choosing the other two 9 times out of 10. And Tennessee has talent, but they don’t have Bama or LSU’s pipelines. Tennessee has great things to offer, but they don’t as much as others overall is all I’m saying. They may have money to throw down with Bama or LSU, but you won’t have the draw or the appeal that they have. If all 3 had a job opening, Tennessee is the last choice.
@KhalilDashawnwatch what happens the longer the NIL game continues, Bama doesn’t have the same money LSU or Tennessee has. They dont have the billionaires or the deep pockets the top echelon of the SEC does. Give it time, they will slip. If they don’t win and win soon, that Saban effect will be completely gone. They will eat the next coach alive and then it will be cyclical. Same thing happened to Tennessee after Fulmer, Penn State after Joe Pa, Nebraska after Osbourne. Bama is about to get a back to reality check they aren’t ready for. Problem for them is the money isn’t behind them.
Texas?
Yea, they have dominated lately. And, dominated the SEC…
LSU still find way not win
I’m probably the only person who agrees with the entire list
UGA FOR SURE 😂😂
Georgia is #1. Hell, even Saban said so when he was at Bama. Hell, you said so less than two years ago. I saw you say it. That job doesn't drop from #1 to #4 in two years. LSU sure as hell isn't a better job. You're kind of full of it Josh. You could make an argument for Ohio State being #1, maybe even Texas, but LSU ahead of Georgia, no way.
Good grief. Oklahoma bro.
Miami will soon go back to their mediocrity.
Keep hating. Not going anywhere.
@johnbarron6465 You already disappeared for 25 years and prior to the 80s were nowhere for 50 years.
@Bama8-UncleLou2 I would rather just be on the come up than on the decline. I hope you enjoyed your run.😢
@johnbarron6465u goin back to irrelevancy watch u tcu 2.0
Because the school didn’t care about football, dipshit. Casual fans know absolutely nothing about why Miami sucked for those 20 years
A&M and MIAMI is LAUGHABLE!!!
Location, history and local South Florida talent is key.. But then again haters will never admit it
Notre Dame is hands down the best coaching job in the nation.
You can play the cookie cutter easiest strength of
Schedule every year and then cry and throw a fit if you don’t make the playoff because you lost to the only good teams you’ve played.
And best of all you can skate on in to the playoffs every year without even playing a conference championship
ND is a lesser program without USC on its schedule.
ND should be higher
Love the program, Josh, but Bama at eighth with its tradition and trophies is not being serious…modernity doesn’t define tradition and excellence.
I don’t think you listened to his criteria
That's true. Modernity doesn't define tradition and excellence because that was all in the past. It might be time for you to acknowledge that tradition and past excellence doesn't necessarily define modernity. Otherwise Yale, who still has the most college football championships, would be a top 10 coaching job as well.
Tradition on some level has been overrated in this conversation. You being successful 20 years ago means nothing to recruits unless you're still winning now. It means more to fans than players
@RainmanutanLol Yale hasn't played major college football since what? The 40's? Just dropping by to point that out.
@NDiddy I know. I was just pointing out how ridiculous it is to ever use the "tradition" argument.
When u put LSU over UGA, u lose credibility
The last 20 years Michigan has been a meddling program unless they cheat
You must be bitter that Michigan has gone 15-0 and the Bucknuts never have and never will.
LSU is not better than Georgia lsu had 1 great historic year then fell off the face of the earth
OU is a top ten job....why the hate😡
He’ll naw 😂😂
Only two kinds of college football head coaches: The coach at Texas and the coaches that want to be the coach at Texas.
UT at #2 seems about right.
nah they should be #1, nobody has the resources and brand to match
@malikjones2193 But their coach is 7 win Steve
@malikjones2193 OSU has a better brand
I'd say Michigan is number 1. We have the most snobby fan base, and of course there's a direct correlation between snobbyness and greatness, by way of common sense. Why would we be so snobby for any other reason other than we are the greatest program. Again, common sense.
Texas Tech resources now make it a top 10 job
Currently ND is a better place to coach at than Bama, Miami and Texas A&M.
Yeah, because everybody wants to live in bumfuck Indiana.😂
First off. Austin Texas is a terrible place and is going downhill faster everyday. And if we're putting that much weight on the city the school is in Michigan should be higher. Ann Arbor always coninuously ranked #1 in the country by every metric one would use to rank communty.
Yup. Also Austin, TX is absolutely not a massive city. it has 1 million people in the city proper but only 2.5 million in the metropolitan area which is 25th in the US and FAR smaller than Dallas and Houston
"Michigan #10 because of administrative issues" says an outsider who doesn't realize it's the best athletic department in college sports. Basketball is a powerhouse, hockey is #1 in America, Women's basketball is in the sweet 16, and the list goes on.
The last head coach was a mess. That doesn't mean the institution is. I expect Whitt to dominate with a top 5 NIL bag in the country.
You're right. Michigan has been good in athletics for 125 years. Fred Flintstone could be the AD there and they would still be good in almost everything. They have more Big 10 championship (men and women) than any other school in the conference. Illinois is second and Michigan has twice as many Big 10 championships than the Illini.
Agreed. Michigan at 10 is certainly too low. I thought the list had way too much recency bias in general. Bama that low is also insane, with all their history and top 5 money it makes zero sense.
No Penn State love Josh? When James was there choking every big game you gave all kinds of love. But now with a real coach, hundreds of millions of dollars worth of stadium upgrades, and all kinds of NIL support NOTHING??!!
Penn state is broke. And Campbell is getting destroyed next season and in the future Penn state is a bad job not a real football team it’s a wannabe football school
Penn State has a dynasty in wrestling. I hate you!
LSU is 1 hoss
He took 2 minutes talking himself into what we all know already
Any top-10 list without UF is garbage. UF won two titles since many of the teams on this list (e.g., Texas, Miami, Notre Dame, etc.) won their last one. These sound like talking points from the 80s.
UF has not done anything of note recently and with the current NIL world anything you did predating NIL means nothing