It seems that teds original motivation for the seed was his rampant greed that he got growing up in a consumerist and hedonistic society. I think this actually fits better with the themes of the movie then just getting the seed to impress a love interest
do not doubt it, I have heard the same thing for a long time that this would be the reason why you would go for the week If it's mistranslated, it's Google's fault.
"Just one place has stayed the same. A hill that bears out founder's name. A tradition we maintain. Soon to become a Pizza chain!" THEY REPLACED THE ONCE LER'S MONUMENT WITH A FREAKING SNOW BOARDING HILL.
Imagine if they actually showed a pizzeria under that snow boarding hill to hide this detail that they actually did replace Once-ler's monument with a pizza chain
I'm not sure but I saw in a concept art where there was a mountain with a pizza chain sign, I'm not sure if that was the once-ler's monument but it was already in danger of demolition
I love the idea that they’ve embraced the onceler’s consumerist philosophy so much, that they’re celebrating his monument being torn down; for the opening of a fast food place
@@Toasted_Failure I also think the one used in the movie sounds more pleasing, but the original one (this version) has lyrics that not only do a better job at setting up what Thneedvile is and how it's citizens live, but also reinforce the message of the original book
3:56 if you listen closely at the end the townsfolk background singers sing "please don't mention greedvile", Implying that this town has gained a reputation of being materialistic even in the world of the lorax. Which is odd since in the original movie Theedville seemed to represent humanity expanding as whole. edit: greenville makes alot more sense
I'm pretty sure it was Greenville, if you look at the original deleted scenes there is a motorcycle scene in Greenville. They don't want you to mention Greenville because O'Hare doesn't want them to feel sorry for the trees that their grandparents had that the Onceler cut down.
I wonder how this movie would've turned out if it was made by Dreamworks. I mean, still would be a crap shoot - we would either get The Prince of Egypt or The Boss Baby, but still! Seeing how dark Puss in Boots 2 got, I feel like current Dreamworks would be willing to do a dark Lorax.
@@ThePreciseClimber Honestly, the lorax movie they were probably going for considering the original songs feels more like something old Disney would do, in a fashion similar to the hunchback of notre dame. And also, Puss in boots 2 wasn't really a dark movie, the only darker scenes were mostly the ones with the wolf, that are a really, REALLY, *REALLY* small fraction of the movie
One thing that bothered me about this movie is that the once-ler is both a urban legend and the founder of the city!? Shouldn't he be known as the man who established thneedville's modern society in this universe?! Guess what. This song fixes it. "Hill that bears our founders name, soon to become a pizza chain!" Shows that they know who founded their town but they're so materialistic that they don't care!
If in the song we are given to understand that the onceler is the founder of the city of thneedville that there is even a hill with his name, all the citizens know who founded the city but they are so materialists and consumerists that they maintain their monument that they no longer care about.it matters, i would have liked to see this in the movie.
I just think the line "the Man who bottled the fresh air sounds WAY better than The final "the Man who found a way to sell Air" because It shows that O'hare didn't saved those people by creating a brand new thing, but actually shows that he only began to sell something people were supposed to get for free (it's a well done critic to capitalism but illumination woudn't allow that because they would be criticising theirselves.)
I feel as though saying "the man who found a way to sell air" is better as it shows how he didn't necessarily invent air, but rather found a way to sell something which everyone would think is impossible to sell, as it is meant to be free. "Bottled fresh air" suggests that he doesn't really have any real power and status in their world, which isn't a great thing to say in the opening, when they are trying to characterise everyone in the beginning.
listening to this song, if i close my eyes hard enough, i can _see_ a shot where at like 2:18 the camera is following a parade, they're going down a residential street, then the camera stops to look at one of the houses, then zoops in to a shot of the kitchen for the next verse where ted is trying to convince his mom to get him the latest thingamajig. eventually, for some reason, they go out to join the parade, though ted is practically still in his own little world singing about the horrid case of consumerism the poor boy's come down with also. where do they get their food from?? surely they can't feed that many people just on their own? where do the imports come from? isn't ohare able to see the wasteland from his blimp? hell, surely more people than just the one kid have caught a glimpse of what's outside in the past few decades, especially given all the crazy architecture they could use to their advantage to rube goldberg themselves high enough
It's Thneedsville, they got everything the needsville. Most folk don't seem to care whats going on beyond the walls aside from the fact that there are probably trucks coming in from beyond into Thneedsville. Which inherently would mean that there are other places that are probably worse off than Thneedsville, like really poor farms beyond in the chemical wasteland where the Mad Max Whos fight for territory. (Where's my Doctor Seuss Lorax spinoff where we see Mad Max Whos driving Kinkbobs and Wazzoooos across a polluted wasteland?) O'hare literally went on and was like "the more smog in the sky, the more people will buy" He truly does not seem to care about how the wasteland looks when he's literally poisoning his own air. (Something I wish was delved into, I really would've loved to see O'hare using a breathing aparatus rather than just be rocketed off... He's still rich and still around... It's not like they off'd the dude for his abhorrent greed)
I feel like in this original version, they knew perfectly about what's going on out there and that they were in a terrible state of life, and thneedville was a terrible place to live, and singing was the best way they found to still have something to enjoy in these terrible days that probably would never change, as you can see how by the last part of this version they don't sound as excited as in the last part of the the version that actually is in the movie, and also how they mention things such as "Spend until you bleedville" or "All the buildings are broke, the screenlights drop and the chemicals flow"
@@davifernandopereiraborges5168 then where are them, because i'm pretty sure we would see something growing when Ted gets out of thneedville or even in thneedville itself
This version of the song is a lot more on the nose with its commentary than the final version. They just straight up admit that Thneedville is a dystopia, as opposed to in the final version where it's moreso that they're blissfully unaware of the problems they have, and the city still seems at least somewhat liveable on the surface.
Fun fact: there is not that many chemicals that glow There is radon Discovered by marie curie, i think. .... It is kinda safe. And also a treatment for cancer (from what i know) And it glows.
ok but I have a certain doubt... if in this beta version it was shown that Ted had a consumerist compulsion and would go after a seed just to satisfy his desire... then wouldn't Audrey exist? because in the movie he went after the seed just to conquer Audrey
No, it would no longer exist since Ted's motivation was to have the tree for himself since he was originally going to be a selfish and consumerist child.
Spend until you bleedvile is a pun on spend until you bleed (or buying excessively), growing like a weedvile is to show how its growing uncontrollably fast and greedily is because the residents are all greedy
Imagine if there is actually a full "eedvilleverse" with multiple towns named "[Something that ends with eed]ville" And all of those villes actually exist Spend until you bleedville=Bleedville is a place where all people have and spend alot of money, so spend until you bleedville would be so much that you get to the level of a bleedville citizen Growing like a weedville=Weedville is a really big place, so growing like a weedville means they just keep growing so fast that they will soon reach weedville's level Please don't mention Greedville=I don't know what Greedville is, but i guess they don't talk about it
I think the third one is “Greenville” an earlier version of the town before O’Hare came along and changed everything, and perhaps in the early version of the movie everyone had to pretend that they don’t know about it, or they don’t like speaking about it in fear of angering O’Hare
Fun fact in the 1972 version the singers who “worship” the once-ler carve the word “thneed” in “everlasting stone” that might be the so called hill the speak of in this song that has their founders name which would explain why Ted doesn’t know who the onceler is the hill says “thneed” not “Onceler” Also the city the onceler builds in the OG film is “onceler hills” not thneedville
aye lmao Its not really a joke but it isn't original footage. I simply got scenes from the final Thneedville and Let it grow and put it to the Original Demo. The music is early "footage;" I did not create it, it was what turned into the Thneedville in the final film.
@@nicholasmahoney7820 I'm pretty sure that the idea was that they weren't overly optimistic in the original one, singing is just the best way they found to cope with the terrible live they need to handle in thneedville And O'hare is not really that bad of a thing, since having both O'hare and the Once-er exist could work for showing both sides of the coin:The once-ler showing the side of the big companies who destroy the world, while O'hare is more onto the other side, that is the consumerism, since you can't just blame the companies when the peiple consuming the products are also completely in the wrong here (Or do you really think the once-ler would cut another tree if nobody bought a thneed? Both the book and the movie show that the only reason that the Once-ler is doing all of that is because people buy the thneeds, even more in the book as the lorax literally convinces the Once-ler that what he's doing is wrong and that he should stop, and it actually works, but then he's notified about how much the thneeds are selling and he goes back to ignoring the Lorax and just want to keep on Biggering and turning more trees into thneeds), although that side goes a lot more for the thneedville people, while O'hare is just there to impersonate said product people consume so much.
a whosit: a hot picture of once-ler.
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It seems that teds original motivation for the seed was his rampant greed that he got growing up in a consumerist and hedonistic society. I think this actually fits better with the themes of the movie then just getting the seed to impress a love interest
do not doubt it, I have heard the same thing for a long time that this would be the reason why you would go for the week
If it's mistranslated, it's Google's fault.
Yeah your right
"Just one place has stayed the same. A hill that bears out founder's name. A tradition we maintain. Soon to become a Pizza chain!" THEY REPLACED THE ONCE LER'S MONUMENT WITH A FREAKING SNOW BOARDING HILL.
Imagine if they actually showed a pizzeria under that snow boarding hill to hide this detail that they actually did replace Once-ler's monument with a pizza chain
I'm not sure but I saw in a concept art where there was a mountain with a pizza chain sign, I'm not sure if that was the once-ler's monument but it was already in danger of demolition
@@estrella-om7tui think it wasnt the monument, but some ruins of what was oncelers thneed factory
I kinda wished they kept this version. It felt like it did a better job at world building
No kidding, the original is too sunny and bright
I love the idea that they’ve embraced the onceler’s consumerist philosophy so much, that they’re celebrating his monument being torn down; for the opening of a fast food place
The original one sounds more music to my ears tbh and the mountain part is a nice call back to the original movie
@@Toasted_Failure I also think the one used in the movie sounds more pleasing, but the original one (this version) has lyrics that not only do a better job at setting up what Thneedvile is and how it's citizens live, but also reinforce the message of the original book
Yea plus Ted saying that he’s wants everything would make sense for him to go see the once ler
3:56 if you listen closely at the end the townsfolk background singers sing "please don't mention greedvile", Implying that this town has gained a reputation of being materialistic even in the world of the lorax. Which is odd since in the original movie Theedville seemed to represent humanity expanding as whole.
edit: greenville makes alot more sense
I'm pretty sure it was Greenville, if you look at the original deleted scenes there is a motorcycle scene in Greenville. They don't want you to mention Greenville because O'Hare doesn't want them to feel sorry for the trees that their grandparents had that the Onceler cut down.
@@TheMoonIsCool-k6lGreenville was the name of the town before the onceler. You can see it at the start on a garbage truck the drives past
“It could have been great..”
Hey at least we can celebrate the lorax's book's 50th anniversary somehow!👍
UNLESS someone remakes this movie
@@drakejackson5480 i really wished I chould I want to remake it someday
I wonder how this movie would've turned out if it was made by Dreamworks.
I mean, still would be a crap shoot - we would either get The Prince of Egypt or The Boss Baby, but still! Seeing how dark Puss in Boots 2 got, I feel like current Dreamworks would be willing to do a dark Lorax.
@@ThePreciseClimber Honestly, the lorax movie they were probably going for considering the original songs feels more like something old Disney would do, in a fashion similar to the hunchback of notre dame.
And also, Puss in boots 2 wasn't really a dark movie, the only darker scenes were mostly the ones with the wolf, that are a really, REALLY, *REALLY* small fraction of the movie
One thing that bothered me about this movie is that the once-ler is both a urban legend and the founder of the city!? Shouldn't he be known as the man who established thneedville's modern society in this universe?!
Guess what. This song fixes it. "Hill that bears our founders name, soon to become a pizza chain!" Shows that they know who founded their town but they're so materialistic that they don't care!
If in the song we are given to understand that the onceler is the founder of the city of thneedville that there is even a hill with his name, all the citizens know who founded the city but they are so materialists and consumerists that they maintain their monument that they no longer care about.it matters, i would have liked to see this in the movie.
I just think the line "the Man who bottled the fresh air sounds WAY better than The final "the Man who found a way to sell Air" because It shows that O'hare didn't saved those people by creating a brand new thing, but actually shows that he only began to sell something people were supposed to get for free (it's a well done critic to capitalism but illumination woudn't allow that because they would be criticising theirselves.)
I feel as though saying "the man who found a way to sell air" is better as it shows how he didn't necessarily invent air, but rather found a way to sell something which everyone would think is impossible to sell, as it is meant to be free. "Bottled fresh air" suggests that he doesn't really have any real power and status in their world, which isn't a great thing to say in the opening, when they are trying to characterise everyone in the beginning.
When it said i just got my baby a phone i was like what the hell
Sounds like real life
fr
After the rise of "iPad Kids" in recent years i can Just Say
This Aged PERFECTLY
listening to this song, if i close my eyes hard enough, i can _see_ a shot where at like 2:18 the camera is following a parade, they're going down a residential street, then the camera stops to look at one of the houses, then zoops in to a shot of the kitchen for the next verse where ted is trying to convince his mom to get him the latest thingamajig. eventually, for some reason, they go out to join the parade, though ted is practically still in his own little world singing about the horrid case of consumerism the poor boy's come down with
also. where do they get their food from?? surely they can't feed that many people just on their own? where do the imports come from? isn't ohare able to see the wasteland from his blimp? hell, surely more people than just the one kid have caught a glimpse of what's outside in the past few decades, especially given all the crazy architecture they could use to their advantage to rube goldberg themselves high enough
It's Thneedsville, they got everything the needsville. Most folk don't seem to care whats going on beyond the walls aside from the fact that there are probably trucks coming in from beyond into Thneedsville. Which inherently would mean that there are other places that are probably worse off than Thneedsville, like really poor farms beyond in the chemical wasteland where the Mad Max Whos fight for territory. (Where's my Doctor Seuss Lorax spinoff where we see Mad Max Whos driving Kinkbobs and Wazzoooos across a polluted wasteland?)
O'hare literally went on and was like "the more smog in the sky, the more people will buy" He truly does not seem to care about how the wasteland looks when he's literally poisoning his own air. (Something I wish was delved into, I really would've loved to see O'hare using a breathing aparatus rather than just be rocketed off... He's still rich and still around... It's not like they off'd the dude for his abhorrent greed)
Trees where extinct,but other plants still exist
I feel like in this original version, they knew perfectly about what's going on out there and that they were in a terrible state of life, and thneedville was a terrible place to live, and singing was the best way they found to still have something to enjoy in these terrible days that probably would never change, as you can see how by the last part of this version they don't sound as excited as in the last part of the the version that actually is in the movie, and also how they mention things such as "Spend until you bleedville" or "All the buildings are broke, the screenlights drop and the chemicals flow"
@@davifernandopereiraborges5168 then where are them, because i'm pretty sure we would see something growing when Ted gets out of thneedville or even in thneedville itself
@@JosoezinduASMRpog is just a theory i have,i refer to farming plants,they would not be found outside thneedville
I'm starting to wonder if some of these demos were censor decoys.
In that way
We need a Lorax "Snyder Cut" edition
It's really a completely different level of "let it die"
Fr, we really do
I agree.
Yes. Remake now.
This song is Better than the seen in the movie
Agree
Literally
facts
I swear I just heard Alex Brightman?? The guy who plays Beetlejuice on Broadway. On the line “cuz you always got the stuff that you own” lol
Kind of.
I like ted’s Part during the end reprise
Teds part gives a lot of room for character development, and would have given his character a lot more depth.
Also the singing is amazing
2:05 I like the fact it's O'Hares part of let it grow
1:08 weedville? XD
yee
Weedeater
why did you make Cy sing Ted's part?
+Walnut Smack I wasn't sure if it was Cy of Ted's part, but since Ted doesn't sing in the movie (based on what I remember) I assumed it was Cy's
PJ-13 don't worry, you could of used the young once-ler, because he looked like Ted as a teen.
I’m here still remembering this meme lol
@@PJ13Beans I mean, understandable, but it wouldnt make sense for Cy to sing that part lol
I like that you put the once-ler at the end
This version of the song is a lot more on the nose with its commentary than the final version. They just straight up admit that Thneedville is a dystopia, as opposed to in the final version where it's moreso that they're blissfully unaware of the problems they have, and the city still seems at least somewhat liveable on the surface.
2:58 best part (to me)
I love how they kept that I just went swimming and now I glow bit 1:20
Except in the demo its less of a safe and fun chemical, and more like the water is so irradiated
@@harbour2118 Technically it's the same in both, they just don't adress it that directly in the released version
Fun fact: there is not that many chemicals that glow
There is radon
Discovered by marie curie, i think.
....
It is kinda safe. And also a treatment for cancer (from what i know)
And it glows.
Aloysuis O’Hair approved
Ok
0:39 I didn't know that homer Simpson lived in thneedville
Thneedfield
instructions unclear hand stuck in toaster
Atomic Gerg Rewatch Cooking with Beans episode 3, that should solve the issue
watched it and now my mashpotatos are chunky very displeased
Atomic Gerg I'm so confused 😂😂😂
0:56 Today on CNN: local air deliverer runs into woman's house and almost destroys her air machine and grabs hand in an act of sexual assault.
And then he tries to escape but ends up falling in a manhole.
Must be fake news
@@UltimateOutcast ha yes!!!
@@comercole1940 Pack your things get out of my building YOUR’RE FIRED
ok but I have a certain doubt... if in this beta version it was shown that Ted had a consumerist compulsion and would go after a seed just to satisfy his desire... then wouldn't Audrey exist? because in the movie he went after the seed just to conquer Audrey
No, it would no longer exist since Ted's motivation was to have the tree for himself since he was originally going to be a selfish and consumerist child.
They should have kept the song for O'hare at 1:58 through 2:17 because its not fair the Onceler got a song but O'hare didn't.
Damn you really love those executive producers huh?
The Pizza Chain guy sounds kinda like Gru.
The original version of this movie was brutal in the best way
In thneedville its a brand new DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
Can't see the sun but we like it that
way
Here in get-more-than-we-need-ville
3:54 3:56 3:58 Bleedville? Weedville? Greedville?
Can someone explain to me?
@@marcianniaraujo7596 greedville is illumination
It's all a joje
Spend until you bleedvile is a pun on spend until you bleed (or buying excessively), growing like a weedvile is to show how its growing uncontrollably fast and greedily is because the residents are all greedy
Imagine if there is actually a full "eedvilleverse" with multiple towns named "[Something that ends with eed]ville" And all of those villes actually exist
Spend until you bleedville=Bleedville is a place where all people have and spend alot of money, so spend until you bleedville would be so much that you get to the level of a bleedville citizen
Growing like a weedville=Weedville is a really big place, so growing like a weedville means they just keep growing so fast that they will soon reach weedville's level
Please don't mention Greedville=I don't know what Greedville is, but i guess they don't talk about it
I think the third one is “Greenville” an earlier version of the town before O’Hare came along and changed everything, and perhaps in the early version of the movie everyone had to pretend that they don’t know about it, or they don’t like speaking about it in fear of angering O’Hare
2:05 is from Let It Grow
The man that bottled freesh up air☠
I wanted to see the old guy dancing but it zoomed in that loser with the baby :(
Fun fact in the 1972 version the singers who “worship” the once-ler carve the word “thneed” in “everlasting stone” that might be the so called hill the speak of in this song that has their founders name which would explain why Ted doesn’t know who the onceler is the hill says “thneed” not “Onceler”
Also the city the onceler builds in the OG film is “onceler hills” not thneedville
Thneedville but its the beta song
The end of thr song is kind of sad you can see that people just want mire stuff like what was orignaly wrote
I JUST HEARD DAN CASTLENETTA!!!
I think the reason it was scrapped was because it sounded depressing..
Ok, so Scar was there instead of O'Hare.
Phenomenal to know :D
Cy sounds different
It's actually ted
ok why did i feel bad for oncler at the end-
The fact that this version has no mention of PARKING LOT pisses me off
Nobody can see the sun
What's a whos-it?
Its a thingamajig from a cat in the hat but they changed the name
What’s a who’sit
Whosit to you
exactly
(a general catch-all term for a thing)
sounds like a muppets song ngl
R.I.P onceler Hill
Directed by Snoop Dogg
Can i use this video to translate please??
Go for it! May I ask what you're translating? (just curious)
@@PJ13Beans I suppose it's like, doing a translation of the song and using this video for the visuals
NICOLE THE HOLO-LYNX!!
listen to ohare 💀
From the Creators of Despicable Me
What hold it sound like Oscar from Sesame Street
SPANK YA TILL YA BLEEDVILLE
It's..better-
Pizza chain
The heck is a whosit
Anything that ted dosen't have
0:10 0:14
💀
Demo games
😶😐🤨☹
eww
Are you serious 💀
@@Something_FishyYTyeah it’s fucking disgusting
3rd comment pin me
also is this the original before they fixed or this a joke
+aye lmao Why?
aye lmao Its not really a joke but it isn't original footage. I simply got scenes from the final Thneedville and Let it grow and put it to the Original Demo. The music is early "footage;" I did not create it, it was what turned into the Thneedville in the final film.
@@PJ13Beans make how bad can I be
@@theonce-ler368 biggering
I love the original song but this.... Ew
This one is better
Yes, but…it’s not really that better. I still don’t like this idea of an overly-optimistic “dystopia” and O’Hare still exists.
@@nicholasmahoney7820 this song is supposed to reflect consumerism
This is the ORGINAL SONG
@@nicholasmahoney7820 I'm pretty sure that the idea was that they weren't overly optimistic in the original one, singing is just the best way they found to cope with the terrible live they need to handle in thneedville
And O'hare is not really that bad of a thing, since having both O'hare and the Once-er exist could work for showing both sides of the coin:The once-ler showing the side of the big companies who destroy the world, while O'hare is more onto the other side, that is the consumerism, since you can't just blame the companies when the peiple consuming the products are also completely in the wrong here (Or do you really think the once-ler would cut another tree if nobody bought a thneed? Both the book and the movie show that the only reason that the Once-ler is doing all of that is because people buy the thneeds, even more in the book as the lorax literally convinces the Once-ler that what he's doing is wrong and that he should stop, and it actually works, but then he's notified about how much the thneeds are selling and he goes back to ignoring the Lorax and just want to keep on Biggering and turning more trees into thneeds), although that side goes a lot more for the thneedville people, while O'hare is just there to impersonate said product people consume so much.