The Backun Alpha Bb Clarinet - is it the best student clarinet on the market?

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  • Опубликовано: 27 янв 2025

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  • @bassclarinetbrian
    @bassclarinetbrian Год назад +13

    Just finished the video and wow!! I am so impressed! As somebody who really looks up to the R13, my jaw dropped when I got the listening test wrong. Crazy that this big of an innovation can be made in the student market after so long. Great video!

  • @Clarineat
    @Clarineat Год назад +9

    I have used this paired with wooden barrel and bell in professional situations that were in adverse conditions. Nobody noticed, which was the point!

  • @pukalo
    @pukalo Год назад +24

    Nice to see a high-quality student instrument that comes with a left hand a-flat/e-flat key

    • @craterellus3577
      @craterellus3577 Год назад +3

      Yes! I find it a little bit ridiculous how such a helpful improvement that doesnt cost much to implement is so rare on clarinets under $3k

    • @pukalo
      @pukalo Год назад

      @@craterellus3577 Rice Clarinet Works sells a bolt-on left hand a-flat/e-flat key, but it is expensive (250 USD), and is only guaranteed to work on most Buffet clarinets (B-flat, A, and E-flat).

    • @backunmusical
      @backunmusical Год назад +4

      We're biased, but we think so, too. In several international countries, the LH Eb Lever is becoming standard, even on student instruments. We're certainly seeing more and more of this demand in North America... especially when ours are easily removable!

    • @jackgrimes09
      @jackgrimes09 11 месяцев назад

      @@backunmusicalSo happy you guys are doing this! Makes a lot of repertoire easier for the student level.

    • @verysmallensemble
      @verysmallensemble 10 месяцев назад

      Yo my profile picture is the pixelated version of yours

  • @marshes22
    @marshes22 Год назад +5

    I play on an Alpha and I've been waiting your review on it!! This clarinet has served me well when I traded in my old one looking for something nicer but still fairly affordable!

  • @stepheniansavage
    @stepheniansavage Год назад +6

    As someone that just bought one of these for playing outdoor concerts in Texas, this assessment is spot on.
    Does it feel as good to play as my R13? No, but it's >85% of the way there.
    Here are some of my thoughts:
    -I found the spring tension to be a bit heavy, but that's an easy fix if you know what you're doing (or for a tech).
    -The barrel socket/upper joint tenon is a proprietary size, so your nice wooden or fancy adjustable barrels will not fit.
    -The pads are Valentino (or at least not traditional felt) so they will do very well with moisture. (This also might explain the louder key clacks.)
    -The option for silver plated keys and a left Eb/Ab is outstanding. This makes the instrument feel almost premium under the fingers.
    Overall, it is most certainly the best "plastic" clarinet I've ever played and is an outstanding choice for outdoor gigs or marching bands.

  • @mikesaxclar
    @mikesaxclar Год назад +6

    The Alpha is insane. I sold these for awhile now and literally just can't believe how good it is. Yep, if I was playing outside much I'd buy one. Holy Crap is right!

  • @robbruce2128
    @robbruce2128 Год назад +2

    Because I watched _The Graduate_ and looked up 'Plastics" on Wikipedia, I learned: the adjective "plastic" literally means moldable, but in common usage has multiple meanings. Bakelite, an early 20th Century invention, is what's called a "thermoset" plastic, like melamine and Formica. When the material is _heated_ , it hardens. But you can't untoast that toast. Modern plastics (with an "s") refer to thermoplastics, materials that melt when heated and solidify when _cooled_ . They will melt again if reheated and can be re-formed, more or less.

  • @Forestier1
    @Forestier1 Год назад

    Good to find a reviewer who can actually play well as well as talk!

  • @beth7467
    @beth7467 Год назад +3

    My nephew has one that he played in high school and liked a lot. He's not playing anymore, so I've been dropping broad hint for him to let me buy it from him. Fingers crossed!

  • @vacuumlover1
    @vacuumlover1 Год назад

    WOW. Beautiful tone! Makes me think of my Royal Global Max I just got! Super impressed with new composite technology

  • @jpl9577
    @jpl9577 Год назад +3

    I play the Julian Bliss Leblanc/Backun designed before he had his own brand. I bought it because the wooden one was very light, I can't tell the difference between the wooden one and the plastic one. A few years later, I got the matching plastic one for teaching/playing outside, and it's very good too, and it's good to have the two clarinets with the same keywork and feel the same to blow through.

    • @davideichler5105
      @davideichler5105 10 месяцев назад

      I got one of the plastic Bliss/Backun models (now discontinued) to play in cold weather. It sounds really good, though the intonational evenness leaves something to be desired, imo. However, I find the keys to be awful and cannot use the instrument for actually playing music or heavy duty practice, just for basic technical stuff like long tones and slow scales. Maybe if I had a technician set up the keys really well, but the expense seems overkill for that for student instrument.

  • @MARKLINMAN1
    @MARKLINMAN1 Год назад +1

    I got one about 2 years ago, and i LOVE IT!

  • @bashelbash4697
    @bashelbash4697 Год назад +1

    Very impressive, I guessed correctly but I really had to pay attention to the sound. Again very impressive.

  • @matthewjoga
    @matthewjoga Год назад +4

    I've thought about getting an alpha for a while now. I used to play in a military band and we always used R13s but I can't justify paying that much for an instrument right now

  • @QuickStartClarinet
    @QuickStartClarinet Год назад +1

    I guessed correctly on the blind listening (unlike at ClarinetFest lol). The give away was actually that the Alpha intonation felt better?!? And the connections were smoother on the R13.
    Great review as always!

  • @vapsman88
    @vapsman88 Год назад +1

    I have one and I love it! Great Review.

  • @lovelylych7643
    @lovelylych7643 Год назад +5

    I've been playing on my Alpha for half a year now and I'm so happy with it! You mentioned the case being ugly and student level: when I got my Alpha clarinet it came in a beautiful backpack Backun case! So I maybe it depends on where you buy it? Anyways: good review! Liked watching it.
    Edit: I bought mine in Europe and I didn't spend a 1000 on it. It was more between 500 and 600 euro.

    • @backunmusical
      @backunmusical Год назад +3

      Indeed. Internationally, all Alpha Synthetics come in a ballistic nylon backpack case. In the US, specifically, Alpha Synthetics come in durable hardshell cases meant to protect the instruments as they are rented to students and beginners. Some dealers do choose to order the Alphas in backpack cases, but this is certainly not the norm.

    • @יהודי-ב7ת
      @יהודי-ב7ת Год назад

      איפה קנית אותו באירופה ?

  • @musikerman52
    @musikerman52 Год назад +1

    I bought one Backun plastic for my student. As passing it to her, I said "if you're not happy with it, I can gladly buy it back!" - and I meant it! It would have been an excellent reserve and outside instrument. Thank you for this rewiev.

  • @robbruce2128
    @robbruce2128 Год назад +1

    Form follows function on that case, and that's fine by me. But that clarinet! I got one for my daughter for enduring Covid band and sticking with the horn, and man, it's so much better than the student Yamaha we rented for her starting out. It blows better, sounds better, the keys feel so much better. Although the logical upgrade from the student horn was to a wood clarinet later in high school, the *dramatically* better playing, but still weather-resistant Backun made a lot of sense for marching band + tendencies of kids to leave instruments in 120 or 0 degree cars, etc. even in concert season.

  • @stankell3629
    @stankell3629 4 месяца назад +1

    I'm a little confused....at 10:07 he says the plastic construction make the sound too bright... didn't he say he and his wife couldn't tell in a blind test which instrument was which in a comparison with his $7000 clarinet?

  • @DanielFrazelle
    @DanielFrazelle Год назад +1

    Looking forward to the RG Max review!

  • @theclarinetcompanyLTD
    @theclarinetcompanyLTD 4 месяца назад

    Dear Michael - I couldn't agree more - we all sound like ourselves even I find on a vintage 1920's metal Clinton System clarinet. My clarinets the Craven Sonoro SM and SM2 at the same price bracket (or cheaper) are, I think easily as good as Morrie's and sound less thin in the clarion register and I believe that hard rubber has a warmer resonance. I also sell a wooden version but the hard rubber can be enhanced by different style wooden barrels and bells similar to the Backun offerings . Of course here in UK we generally prefer a very slightly more spread and less focussed sound. A great video though Michael, thank you, well done. Maybe you would be so kind as to review one of my offerings in future?

  • @DynamixWarePro
    @DynamixWarePro Год назад +1

    I now only play and own saxophones primarily and wanted a clarinet but can't afford to spend a lot if I do decide to get one and just found out about the Alpha recently and thought about it. I have never seen any reed instruments come with legere reeds so that was interesting to see and good for a beginner since they play immediately without any issues or affected by moisture. I play Legere European Cut clarinet reeds on my soprano saxophone and like them. I could tell a slight difference in the blind test, but not enough to know which was which

  • @jazzbariman
    @jazzbariman Год назад +3

    I know a number of pro clarinet players who have bought one of these Alphas as a back-up and outdoor clarinet. I personally do not consider this clarinet a student level clarinet, but a low level pro clarinet. I think the pads are what are causing the noise you mention, but Backun knows clarinets and this clarinet is a monster for the price. Like I said, I know many pro clarinetists who have preached one of these clarinets as a back-up/outdoor clarinet to save their LeBlanc, Buffets, and higher level Backun clarinets from the outdoor summer gigs and to use when their "main" clarinets are in the shop. I notice a little distortion at the start of some of the notes on the blind test that is so common with R-13. That was a dead give-away for me on the blind test. The Alpha does not have that. Listen again. You will hear what I am talking about. This blip/pop/distortion starts some of the pitches. Any way, thanks for the great video of a great clarinet.

  • @BCl137
    @BCl137 Год назад +2

    I felt similarly about the Royal Global MAX B-flat that I tried in Denver - it was easier to play on than one of their "professional" models!

  • @diminuendo7525
    @diminuendo7525 Год назад +1

    hey michael! you should totally make a video talking about the TMEA all state etudes that a lot of high schoolers in texas have to learn to audition for state ensemble, (p.s. theyre literally just the 3rd, 4th, and 8th rose etudes)

  • @derrickmickle5491
    @derrickmickle5491 Год назад +1

    Wow, I got the blind comparison wrong, too. Glad I snatched up my Alpha a couple of years ago when it was roughly half the current price. Still worth it at $1,100, but you have to question if you can still call it a student clarinet when that price is out of reach for most students. At this price, the target customer has to be professionals and hobbyists looking for a decent instrument to play in environments less friendly to expensive wood instruments.

  • @joseferia2427
    @joseferia2427 Год назад +1

    I'm planning to get one soon...

  • @RowingCox2009
    @RowingCox2009 Год назад

    My main horn is a cocobolo Backun Protoge that I miraculously managed to buy used. But I also bought an Alpha for a deserving relative. I too was amazed by the Alpha, comparing it to the Protege. Wow! Agree with you on the tone of wood, though, Mike. I would describe the Alpha keys as a little clunky, but definitely student-proof. Great review!

    • @backunmusical
      @backunmusical Год назад

      We love, love, love that you've chosen Backun twice! Thanks for the love and support.

  • @svantepersson9735
    @svantepersson9735 Год назад +1

    If i am not completely mistaken, Corrado Giuffredi plays an Alpha with Moba barrel and Moba Bell in his orchestra.

    • @backunmusical
      @backunmusical Год назад

      He does. CG takes his Alpha Clarinets on vacation with him, especially when he's travelling to hot and humid locations that might not favour a wooden clarinet. And yes, he's played his Alpha with MoBa Barrel and Bell in the orchestra on a number of occasions. Ciaoooooo!

  • @medusa210562
    @medusa210562 4 месяца назад

    When I bought my tradition biffet. I played 5 of them in the shop.
    4 of them didn't play the notes as evenly as the one I bought. (The shop attendant didnt notice.)
    Anyway, maybe several need to be tested in order to purchas one.

  • @bobblues1158
    @bobblues1158 Год назад +2

    The uneven problem could maybe be addressed by a proper tech setting the instrument up better than the factory setup. Or maybe the factory setup was disturbed under transit.

  • @paulineb66
    @paulineb66 Год назад

    I play in community bands mostly outside. If I were in the market for a new clarinet I’d buy this, but for now my Ridenour Lyrique is holding up quite nicely.

  • @picashlio3361
    @picashlio3361 Год назад

    I have only one clarinet on my "mantle."
    My first clarinet was a Vito LeBlanc 7214 Millennium Edition. It really is just a basic student instrument except for the Millennium logo on the clarinet and case, so nothing special. But at 14, it was stolen from me. It's taken me 20 years to find another of the same year and model. It sits on it's pretty stand, in it's own place of honor, to remind me to never give up on my dream.

  • @HalinaKiszczyszyn
    @HalinaKiszczyszyn 10 месяцев назад

    Hi, thank you for the presentation.
    I found a sale offer, unfortunately without details about the mouthpiece. Waiting for a reply from the seller. Could you tell me - what mouthpiece was in the kit that you received for testing. Thank you in advance for your reply. Greetings

  • @think2023
    @think2023 Год назад

    Yes...I could tell the difference....easily....especially upper clarion.
    Love to hear a three way alpha / Yamaha 255 / Ridenour Nobelissimo

  • @LaurenAldag
    @LaurenAldag Год назад

    Amazing 🤩

  • @lGalaxisl
    @lGalaxisl Год назад

    I spent about 300 euros to restore my old wooden high-school clarinet. Only thing is.. I did everything myself. And I messed up somewhere so it squeaks in the lower range. Overall I did a good job but I'd have to spend a couple hundred extra to sort out the squeaking problem (something with the sealing of the pads and bent keys)
    I didn't do it... I just bought myself a student clarinet instead.. And it plays sooo smooth. I went for a plastic buffet, but if money wasn't an issue I would've gone with a backun alpha.
    So if anyone out there is wondering... should I renovate or buy new? Renovating is a semi-expensive and fun DIY but don't expect a functioning clarinet afterwards.

  • @Qladstone
    @Qladstone 6 месяцев назад

    My dream clarinet!

  • @danielsinanian5649
    @danielsinanian5649 Год назад

    A wonderful clarinet that plays well. My biggest complaint is the left hand pinky keys which are placed too far away from the C/G tone hole. I have big hands and the stretch was uncomfortable for me. It would be much worse for a 6th grader learning to pass over the break.

  • @krommer66
    @krommer66 Год назад

    I got it right!!! Anyway, I bought one to use at work. It is a great horn!!!!!

  • @davideichler5105
    @davideichler5105 9 месяцев назад

    Very nice instrument for a student or for a pro for backup. If you are using this instrument sometimes, are you using other barrels with it? I find it sounds even better with some different barrels. And, have you made adjustments to the spring tensions and some of the key positions if you are using one of these yourself occasionally? I find the spring tension too heavy and some of the key positions are a little awkward for me, relative to what I am used to on a professional instrument that has been very well set up. However, maybe all that is overkill for a student instrument?

  • @emily-zv7fs
    @emily-zv7fs 11 месяцев назад

    Late to the party, but any chance Backun will make a version of this clarinet in key of A?

  • @leonardonsius
    @leonardonsius Год назад +3

    I got it without really knowing the hype and boy… I even played some serious music with it including a concert and a studio recording and while you notice a difference to my tosca… the difference isn‘t really that big

  • @jimweisgram9185
    @jimweisgram9185 8 месяцев назад

    It would be nice to compare to the Ridenour Noblissima at $595.

  • @russellroussin7695
    @russellroussin7695 Год назад

    Thanks for the review! Any plans to to compare to the Buffet Prodige/Premium synthetic line?

  • @joshgeorgeart
    @joshgeorgeart 5 месяцев назад

    I want to learn clarinet, but I don’t know where to start. I can’t test one to see what is good for me because I don’t know how to play. I’m at square one. I’ve seen ppl suggest the alpha and Yamaha 255 model. Will either work for an adult beginner, or is one better than the other?

  • @PaulCornelius94
    @PaulCornelius94 8 месяцев назад

    What tablet stand is that? Looks great!

  • @jetdoc0011
    @jetdoc0011 Год назад

    Recently purchased a Backun Alpha for outdoor playing. Very nice instrument.
    Do you have any experience with the Leblanc /Backun Cadenza compared to the R13?

    • @earspasm
      @earspasm  Год назад

      No, but the Backun Model Q is a terrific alternative to the R13.

  • @Sagefox455yt
    @Sagefox455yt Год назад

    my problem is that one my keys on my backun clarinet keeps getting stuck down

  • @medusa210562
    @medusa210562 Год назад

    I think that with a slightly more resistant set up. It would have sounded perfect

  • @nickscott4272
    @nickscott4272 Год назад

    I'd put it up against the Music Medic Wilmington intermediate for comparison purposes. It is amazing for the cost.

  • @Metalpazallteway
    @Metalpazallteway 9 месяцев назад

    I feel the unevenness in the high reg has to do with the barrel or mouthpiece let's hope.

  • @brianguidry5246
    @brianguidry5246 Год назад

    I find the keys on my Yamaha YCL-255 noisey as well

  • @pablodevadderclarinete
    @pablodevadderclarinete 5 месяцев назад

    Real test will be if you play pianissimo, legato and articulations innsoft dynamics. Playing loud almost avery clarinet "plays"

  • @christoguichard4311
    @christoguichard4311 Год назад

    I still love my old Vito! 😂

  • @thomascohen9924
    @thomascohen9924 Год назад

    Really? No love for the old Vito bass clarinets (LOL). I still have mine, which I keep as a spare. It plays and sounds pretty good. I just have problems with the clarion register--I guess because of the single octave key.

  • @MisterComico
    @MisterComico Год назад

    Hi there! Two questions: how could we get a nice upgrade with bell or barrel (from backun for instances)? How is the dynamics response?

    • @emjay2045
      @emjay2045 Год назад +2

      You can get bell & barrel (upgrade/ replacement) but you must let them know it’s for alpha so they can modify them to fit

  • @kaiserthegreat
    @kaiserthegreat Год назад

    Thought Mystery Clarinet #1 was the Buffet. Sounded better to me. That’s kinda crazy.

  • @grantkoeller8911
    @grantkoeller8911 Год назад

    What is the name of the etude that you played?

  • @Shawn-y2i
    @Shawn-y2i Год назад

    Do they make a similarly good bass clarinet? Or is there a plastic bass clarinet you would recommend? (I'm a tenor saxophonist who is bass clarinet curious.)

  • @thanbo
    @thanbo Год назад

    I see a Backun Alpha in grenadilla for about $500 more - is there any advantage to the wood instrument over the synthetic?

    • @Cornodebassetto
      @Cornodebassetto Год назад

      The Alpha + is a fantastic wooden instrument.

  • @MathieuPilote
    @MathieuPilote Год назад

    The pop of the keys is probably due to the valentino synthetic pads, and not the keys themselves.

  • @ClarinetEnthusiast
    @ClarinetEnthusiast Год назад

    You’re telling me a 1,100 dollar clarinet comes with a Eb LEVER?! And the rest us are spending over 5x the amount on Buffet clarinets for that key, and maybe the F correction key as well.

    • @emjay2045
      @emjay2045 Год назад

      Yup. The alpha is well worth the price. Got a gently used demo , w/silver keys and it plays awesomely !

    • @backunmusical
      @backunmusical Год назад

      Did you know that every single Backun Clarinet model comes with an optional (or standard) removable Left Hand Eb Lever. From the Alpha, all the way up to the CG Carbon, all of our clarinets can be ordered with this additional key, which was once only a rarity. We're pretty sure we're the only clarinet manufacturer that offers this on every single Bb and A model in the entire range.

  • @Vizzutti
    @Vizzutti Месяц назад

    Sounds like a high end recorder!

  • @medusa210562
    @medusa210562 11 месяцев назад

    This is a good clarinet if you don't want to take your buffet Tosca to a marching band performance out on a sunny day.

  • @grantkoeller8911
    @grantkoeller8911 Год назад

    there is nothing wrong with that case, it's very functional, perfect for a kid

  • @ninganpgh
    @ninganpgh Год назад

    Anyone knows where is this
    Model made, in China or Canada? Thanks!!!

    • @robbruce2128
      @robbruce2128 Год назад

      China. The engraved trademark logo says "Backun Canada," but the stamp on the lower joint says: "Made in China"

  • @rlsmith6904
    @rlsmith6904 Год назад

    I am learning clarinet to be able to double on it. My Bach 6 professional, which was professionally set up and played better than new from Bach, got kicked off a four foot riser onto concrete after a gig backing up Wichita Opera singers. The horn was in ab ABS student case. Neither sustained any damage. Most of my clarinet gigs will be outside. I will consider the Alpha for that use, and retain the ABS plastic case. Thanks for the good review.

  • @marcoatmac
    @marcoatmac Год назад +1

    I have it ! :D

  • @clarinetrucos
    @clarinetrucos Год назад

    in Spain the case is different, it's more better that that!

    • @backunmusical
      @backunmusical Год назад

      Not better... just different! In the US, Backun Alpha Synthetic Clarinets come in hardshell cases, as they are preferred by school music dealers that rent instruments to students and beginners! Backun Alpha Clarinets that are sold internationally come with a ballistic nylon backpack case that is both stylish and comfortable. As always, we love ClarinetTrucos!!!

  • @rlsmith6904
    @rlsmith6904 Год назад

    professional trombone; an ABS plastic case

  • @medusa210562
    @medusa210562 Год назад

    The r 13 was not as in tune.

  • @normalizedaudio2481
    @normalizedaudio2481 Год назад

    Eastman has soft metal.

    • @backunmusical
      @backunmusical Год назад

      That's an interesting and unusually general statement that we don't feel applies to this clarinet. The Alpha Clarinet has drop-forged and hardened keyword that has been proven to stand the test of time. They have been available through school music dealers in the US and elsewhere for fourteen years and thus far, we haven't heard complaints of the keyword being soft!

  • @JamReeder
    @JamReeder Год назад +1

    One can get a hard rubber Lyrique 576 for less money which is in every way as good, except for the branding. In my opinion, everything Backun is overpriced.

    • @BCl137
      @BCl137 Год назад +2

      but then you have to buy from Tom who is not a great person

    • @allanjmcpherson
      @allanjmcpherson Год назад

      @@BCl137 Though from what I've heard, neither is Morrie

    • @emjay2045
      @emjay2045 Год назад

      The keys on the Backun are better … especially the silver ones… plus they don’t bend like the Lyriques

    • @backunmusical
      @backunmusical Год назад

      @@allanjmcpherson We're biased, but we think Morrie's a pretty exceptional person. Have you ever reached-out to have a conversation with him? If not, give him a try!