12.9" iPad Pro First Impressions (Not About Final Cut Pro)
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
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This isn't about Final Cut Pro for iPad! Just talkin' about my first impressions of the 12.9" iPad Pro after a week of using it BEFORE the release of Final Cut Pro for iPad. In this video I'm discussing in-depth my first impressions of the 12.9" iPad Pro and looking at Usability, iPadOS and how much it costs vs the value it creates. I shot this entirely with my iPhone 13 Pro Max (built-in mic too) and edited it entirely with Final Cut Pro for iPad. What'cha think?
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 | Intro
1:04 | Usability
4:26 | Coffee Break
5:06 | iPadOS
8:43 | Cost to Value Index
14:13 | Outro
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I love my iPad. I have the 11-inch cellular 2020 so I'm overdue for a new model. I edit my videos on Lumafusion. I try the 12.9-inch iPad for a few days I and my friend switch just to see how it was the experience. It was too big for me. I value portability and mobility. I have a magic keyboard and an Apple pencil.
Love how you mentioned the "not feeling quite like work" when using the iPad. Same here, so I sometimes use it for tasks merely because of that. I love Final Cut Pro for iPad so far - looking forward to your video about it.
Yes! It's something I've noticed more and more as I've upgraded my Apple tech. Work feels less like work, and that's a great feeling.
The live drawing animations you used in FCP for this video looks really nice throughout the video.
Thanks! They were fun to mess around with and a quick and easy way to add commentary throughout the video. Thanks for watching!
Love your videos. My deciding factor was the hardware interfaces. Reading my camera cards, connecting to a LCD projector and normal thumb drive connections lets me use all my legacy equipment and avoid the
Thanks for the kind words, guy! Appreciate you watching. Glad the iPad Pro is working out for you.
6:45 iPadOS supports multiple windows. But apps-like Pages-have to support it. After opening Pages, tap the three-dot icon on the top of the screen, then tap new windows. To switch between windows, tap the three-dot icon and choose a window. You can also use the shortcut Global key + Down arrow key to show the windows of the current app. To close a window, just simply swipe it up (for trackpad, swipe up with two fingers). After you use Command + Tab to switch apps, the windows of that app will be shown for you to choose. Also, if you’re using a different app, you can secondary click on the app icon on the dock, then choose “Show All Windows”. This way, you can view the windows even if you’re using a different app.
Other apps that support multiple windows are Safari, Files, Notes, etc.
Comments like yours are exactly what i look for in videos like this. Thank you
Thanks for this detailed info, Khoa!
I've been a 12.9-inch user since the OG with the home button. When I was deep in the art world, it was a no-brainer -- I've used all the tools, and iPad, Procreate, and Apple Pencil were the best of the best. I swapped the OG 12.9 for a used 2018 12.9 and it served me well in the same context ... until my art work faded away. Video editing has always been my bread-and-butter (and I've never met a mac config I couldn't crash!) and essentially since the Apple silicon transition, I've just been chasing after more and more power. In *that* context, my iPads tended to collect dust on the shelf. FCP is my killer app, and my cash needs to go to powerful systems to support my workflows.
That being said, all of your points ring true -- while there's a lot to hate about iPadOS, I've always loved the full-screen, mono-tasking approach to apps. The UI/UX is my ideal/fantasy computer interface (excluding the useless widgets). (Also: features debut on iPhone first, and then migrate to iPad -- the App Library is the perfect example of this! So I'd imagine lock screen customization might drop in the Fall.)
Bringing *my* killer app to iPad changes my relationship with the device completely. I did the same thing you did and purchased the newest m2, but I'm holding off on the keyboard until I absolutely need it. I'm starting my audiobook projects on the iPad, and while I have to reprogram my brain to fit a different workflow, there's definitely a notable fun factor. I *feel* like certain things are moving faster on the iPad, but it could just be newness of the gadget and software ... but I'm enjoying it, having fun, and certainly appreciating not always having to work at my desk. And, samesies, now that the iPad is back in my regular day-to-day use, the other quality-of-life life improvements fall right into place!
(Sidenote: I crashed FCP on the iPad on day 1. Pretty sure it was the waveforms scaling on a 20-30 minute audio clip. The whole iPad seized and I had to do a hard reboot. It's happened once more, but otherwise smooth. Maybe the new waveforms aren't as magical as they first looked?? LOL)
Appreciate the detail of your own experience with iPad Pro. It's really my first foray into heavy iPad use despite owning two minis over the last 8+ yrs. The Magic Keyboard has helped me use it more since I'm so reliant on typing to feel that I can work at the speed of thought. Excited to see what other opportunities there are for me to use the iPad Pro more (Affinity Designer being one of them) and decide if the value it provides truly is worth the cost. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I used to feel there was absolutely no need for a touchscreen Mac - then I purchased an 11" M1 iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard for my daughter for school. Okay, part of my own gadget envy crept in there, though this was before the M1 iPad Air was released.
After setting it up and using it for a while, I've turned a complete 180. Now I want either iPadOS to better support the apps/workflows that I use on my Mac, or a touchscreen on my MBP. (When using my MBP as a laptop, ie. on my lap, I find myself wanting to touch the screen. I've added a keyboard to my 10.5" iPad Pro now as well)
I lean towards the former as with decent external display support I'd be more than happy to use an M-powered iPad Pro as my main machine plugged into my old Thunderbolt Display.
Even though the 12.9" model has he better screen, I find with the Magic Keyboard that the 11" is a better trade off in weight and portability.
Whilst I have purchased FCP on iPad (if only to support the platform for the moment) it would be still be a luxury purchase for myself. I'd probably opt for a refurb or pre-owned M1 in order to justify it!
(Edit: so true about not feeling like 'working' when working on an iPad!)
I'm gonna be curious to see how I feel about it as I work with it more. Definitely have to force my brain to think in terms of touching the screen when I'm using it like it's a laptop. It's still not natural for me.
And yes! I love when I'm working but it doesn't feel like work. Apple's definitely got that figured out. For better or worse... Hahaha
An interesting take with the iPad Pro and just using the iPhone to shoot this video. I enjoyed the various footage. I would recommend perhaps adding a Røde Mic or external audio source to your vlogs. I think a whole video demonstrating taking various footage and editing on FCP for iPad would be really interesting. Did you upload the video directly from iPad to RUclips?
This video is actually a setup for an upcoming video where I show how much a RØDE Wireless Me can improve vlogging with the iPhone. They sent me a couple mics after meeting them at NAB, so I wanted to show viewers what to expect if you vlog with nothing more than your iPhone. Indoors isn't so bad but outside - yow.
And I didn't upload to RUclips directly from FCP for iPad. I exported to a folder in the Files app and then AirDropped it to my Mac. It's a bit easier to deal with RUclips Studio through the website than the app. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I learned a lot of good fncp tips from you, and there is one thing I love about you but it has nothing to do with fncp and that is your voice.
I do get a lot of comments about my voice. I had no idea. If it's pleasing / soothing / good for RUclips, I'll take it!
Ive been ipad only for years. I had the itch to try a MacBook again and got one only to feel like it was antiquated. Old tech. I thought I’d like it so much more than i actually did. Went back to ipad and every year ipad OS gets updated with the features we want. Imagine where it’ll be 5 years from now.
Excellent point. You can definitely get by without a Mac for sure...
im iPad user since release of iPad 2, even few years back i used iPad pro 10.5 inch as my laptop, thats was back in 2018, things werent as easy as now, but i had my work around, now im using MBP 14” and iPad pro 11 M2, one thing iPadOS lacked back then and it still lacks even after so much processing power, we cant open two different files of Word, Excel, Pages and other apps and thats a huge hindrance for me, every WWDC I pray for this feature, Im very confident this year we will have this feature. liked this video, you have good understanding and observation.
Confused on what you mean by you cant open two different pages. I open multiple instances of word on my ipad and do split screen, or even stage manager with multiple windows.
On a Mac you can have multiple windows open at the same time but layered on top of one another so that each window is taking up the entire display. You can use the keyboard shortcut Command + ` to cycle through the open windows _within_ an application. I'm not aware of how to do that in iPadOS. Sure you can split screen them, but I don't want two unrelated documents in split screen. I haven't tried Stage Manager to see how that approximates what I do on my Mac. I believe Stage Manager is a fancier version of the App Switcher where you can, ultimately, switch between open apps and the documents within them.
@@matthewTobrien did you try the 3 dot method for multiple windows and switching between them? Check out Khoa’s comment in this section
I didn’t! But I will. Definitely sounds like what I’m wanting to do.
I bought the M1 iPad Pro as my first device to use for photo and video editing in summer ‘21. The screen quality compared to the M1 MacBook Air/Pro was a major factor for me. Also, the touch interface and app experience is something I really prefer to a laptop. Last year I bought an M1 MacBook Pro 14” to finally start using Final Cut because I wanted the MotionVFX 3D plugins. I love being able to use those, but I am not a fan of MacOS. We’ll see where FCP on iPad goes with updates. I’m curious if I’ll ever want to ditch my MacBook.
Fascinating, Bryan. I love macOS in comparison to iPadOS but it most likely comes down to what we're most used to working with. I've been using macOS / OS X for almost 20 years now!
Thanks Matthew for this behind the scenes look at daily life with the iPad Pro and the new Final Cut Pro app. Can we all say learning curve frustrations abound? 😅 watch out for tornadoes 🌪️
I wish I could get ice cream daily, Francis! Hahaha. And yes, always learning curve frustrations, but I love to drill down and learn how to use these apps and devices "right" versus my own incorrect way of approaching them.
@@matthewTobrien Thanks Matthew for being an inspiration; keep chopping that broccoli😇
You too, Francis! 🔪🥦
I wish there was a way to send / play only the output view to an Apple TV.
Hmmmm, interesting....
Kinda the same mentality but I use a regular iPad 10 gen. Provides the same casual work convenience on the cheap. You could buy like 6 for the price of the big kahuna. I use it a lot for photo editing. For videos it’s for review, paperwork and youtube stuff. I’m old school. I need my pseudo edit bay for editing. I won’t even use a laptop.
I'm excited to try it for graphic design, photo retouching and more intensive photo editing. Great seeing you in the livestream for WWDC - you had some great humor to add to the watch party. Very much appreciated!
Great video! I bought a 12.9 iPad Pro for a family member. They returned the Magic Keyboard right away...too heavy! But the 12.9 is their main computer now. Question; you have a lot of shorts for FCP and they all take full of keyboard commands. If you were not using the Magic Keyboard for FCP editing on the iPad, could you? Is it difficult to edit on iPad without the keyboard short cuts if you left the keyboard at home?
I think it’s actually easier and faster to edit in FCP on the iPad without the keyboard. I spent long runs using both methods and found editing with my hands and the Apple Pencil to be the most satisfying and fastest.
Great video! Ever since I got my M1 11’ iPad Pro in May 2021 I think I’ve used it everyday compared to my M1 air where I use that here and there throughout the week. Idk the iPad is just special lol
I'm hoping to arrive at that feeling as well - so far that "special" feeling only really happens with my MacBook Pro although I'm enjoying the iPad Pro the more and more I use it. I can't get the price tag for the iPad and accessories out of my head, though...
@@matthewTobrien omg I know that Magic Keyboard price was crazy lol I got lucky and scored the 11’ Magic Keyboard for $100 off on Amazon in like early 2020, other than that I don’t think I could justify that price tag for the Magic Keyboard. I love it but idk I feel for that price they could of at least given us a function row to make it feel more like a “laptop”
Lucky indeed! Wish I could've found a discounted keyboard...
@@matthewTobrien and it was new, it was sale for like a month so I was lucky it was still there when I had the money. But other than that, I don’t think I could spend the money for this keyboard. It’s nice and convenient but that price tag is rough lol
Hi, Matthew! As I watch this, and see all the different shops you visit, I find myself curious about what city this was filmed in.
Never mind... you answered that question in the video further along. Apologies! ☺
No worries! Just good ol' Omaha, Nebraska. 🌽🐄
Welcome to the iPad Pro black Hole!!! Once you start using it you never leave it! I became an iPad Pro only user after Brent fan an loyal to MacBooks for 16 years!!! Enjoy it!!
Uh oh... another bi-annual expense to account for!
Hey Matthew Do you still sell your FCP & Finder templates? if so are they up to date with how you have them now and do you recommend them now? Thanks
I do and they are! I definitely recommend them if you're feeling disorganized but don't want to invest the time into creating your own Finder folder and FCP Library template. They're $10 each on my website: www.matthewobrien.co/shop
And there's a video there that shows how I use them. Let me know if you have any questions!
Waiting for an iPad mini pro…all iPhone’s cameras, and fcp …I’ll be that guy filming everything on that iPad. F what marques says.
I have a feeling the iPad mini is gonna stay non-Pro unfortunately...
I am very interested but not yet convinced enough to jump into the FCP for iPad craze for 2 main reasons. 1) The cost of buying an iPad Pro. 2) Too many limitations that are deal breakers for me. I am sure I will get FCP for iPad at some point but I shall wait until it becomes a mature product. I just don’t think it’s there yet.
I've said in a few instances that I don't think FCP for iPad alone makes the expensive purchase of even a low-end iPad Air or Pro worth it if you're already happy with FCP for Mac (especially if you own a MacBook Pro). While editing this on the iPad Pro with FCP was delightful at times, there were certainly instances where it was excruciating (Audio Crossfades and copying and pasting my color grade to every single clip). I said in a post on Twitter that it probably took me 2x to 3x as long to edit this on the iPad compared to my Mac. But I will say it's awesome that I was able to. There wasn't anything that came up that forced me to stop and transfer to my Mac.
@@matthewTobrien Cool and thanks for all the great videos.
My pleasure! I love making them!
What website is your article on buddy? This would definitely be a better set up for me I think then a MacBook would be because of my cerebral palsy.
medium.com/midland-pictures
A lot of the articles are adaptations of scripts for my RUclips channel with only a few articles exclusive to Medium (and not getting turned into vids for my YT channel).
@@matthewTobrien That’s cool dude. I will still check it out!
Is 16gb ram enough for video editing in final cut? ( mac os ) not ipad os.
Yes but not ideal. I’d want 32GB min.
So I used nothing but Apple products to make this vlog. Shot on my iPhone 13 Pro Max with the built-in mic, edited on my 12.9" iPad Pro in Final Cut Pro for iPad. No 3rd party plug-ins, accessories, etc. I even shot the thumbnail with my phone and used my Apple Watch to remote trigger it. How do you think it turned out other than the terrible audio? Which I used Voice Isolation and some other effects to enhance as much as possible... Dying for the new pro camera features we're seeing in FCP for iPad to come to the Camera app in iOS 17.
Well done Matthew! I am now using my 12.9 iPad to pre-edit a RUclips video on an airplane heading to Southern Taiwan to later transfer to my M1 MBP after I land. It's helping keep choppy that 青花菜 (broccoli)!
Yes! I hope to do the same when I travel, and I think the iPad will be perfect for airplane light editing. Choppin' Broccoli international style! 🔪🥦🧲🎞️
why is the sound so strange changing every few seconds?
I explained it in my pinned comment but to sum up I wanted to record and edit using only Apple tech and this is what you get for sound using the built-in mic on an iPhone 13 Pro Max in occasionally windy conditions. 💨🎙️