Full Debate: Farid (Sunni) vs Bayat (Shia)

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  • Опубликовано: 12 окт 2021

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  • @chasingsupercars558
    @chasingsupercars558 2 года назад +76

    The Shia only heard the muttah part of mutawatir.

    • @sadeeqali8068
      @sadeeqali8068 2 года назад +4

      thats a funny comment

    • @intazario
      @intazario 2 года назад +2

      There are many sahaba born of muta and abdullah bin abbas considered it halal.

    • @sadeeqali8068
      @sadeeqali8068 2 года назад +3

      @@intazario If Sahaba are born out of muta then it doesn't become Halal
      Can you tell me the names of the many sahaba that were born out of muta please?

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад

      Definition of ahle sunnah :
      1. One who believes Allah enters creation.
      2. One who believes Allah creates human actions and whatever we wish is created by Allah and whatever we do is created by Allah and we wish what Allah creates.
      Basically we are just puppets.
      3. Allah will come in qaymah in shape of creation such that prophets and others will deny him as being a God until he will come in shape which they know .

    • @sadeeqali8068
      @sadeeqali8068 2 года назад +8

      @@rationalmind3785 This is not ahle sunnah definition at all. You possibly got the ahle sunnah definition confused with some other group of people

  • @noormiah2225
    @noormiah2225 2 года назад +67

    What an amazing way to create a belief system, just do the opposite of someone else. Brilliant 😂😂😂

    • @sabriya7647
      @sabriya7647 2 года назад +2

      Exactly....so stupid!!!

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад

      Definition of ahle sunnah :
      1. One who believes Allah enters creation.
      2. One who believes Allah creates human actions and whatever we wish is created by Allah and whatever we do is created by Allah and we wish what Allah creates.
      Basically we are just puppets.
      3. Allah will come in qaymah in shape of creation such that prophets and others will deny him as being a God until he will come in shape which they know .

    • @noormiah2225
      @noormiah2225 2 года назад +3

      @@rationalmind3785 WHAT? Why do you rawfida enjoy lying about other people and their beliefs? Guy you lot believe Ali RA is god , stop your nonsense and take your taqia infested BS elsewhere. My pagan pet I call you back to the worship of the one true God.

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад

      @@noormiah2225
      I know truth hurts because you have been kept in dark by your pagan scholars the entire life. And for your kind information our hadees are clear-cut that someone who believes imaams to be God in any way are mushrik and out of Islam .
      So, it's your pagan scholars who lie always about our religion to you guys from childhood.
      And if you want to discuss any topic I mentioned here, I'm always Ready on that. If I can't provide the proof you can call me liar 👍

    • @noormiah2225
      @noormiah2225 2 года назад +1

      @@rationalmind3785 aww, my pagan pet is triggered. Guy stop lying about my Islamic belief system. You lot literally believe Oli is god. We don't sit in a mosque listening to some tyre head tell mythical stories about a dragons and such , whilst beating our heads and chest. Your guy on the video literally said your deen is based on the opposite of what we do. Come on my pagan pet,your BS has to be based on more than that. I again call you back to the worship of the one true God and I advise you to read the Qur'an. If your belief is not to found in the Qur'an I don't see how you can claim to be a Muslim. Peace my pagan pet.

  • @AR-ds7fi
    @AR-ds7fi 2 года назад +146

    The very interesting fact about Shiaisam is that they believe Ali and his Sons are greater than Prophets like Ibraheem (as).

    • @amsakkejha3827
      @amsakkejha3827 2 года назад +23

      They believe worse than that. They believe that they created the universe and Allah created them only.
      They also believe they have control over everything in the dunya

    • @amsakkejha3827
      @amsakkejha3827 2 года назад +28

      They also believe that Ali will be on the throne of Allah on the day of judgement and that he will judge and enter people into jannah
      They believe that you can pray to them and ask them for things (making dua to them) since they control everything

    • @amsakkejha3827
      @amsakkejha3827 2 года назад +24

      They also believe the Quran has been changed

    • @Radec913
      @Radec913 2 года назад +14

      Not all shias believe this. I was shocked when i found out some did.

    • @AR-ds7fi
      @AR-ds7fi 2 года назад +16

      @@Radec913 who is not ,please explain?
      For , Shiaisam Imama is greater than Risala and nubuva.
      I don't know why they excluded Mohammed (sas) from the list even when they excluded his grandfathers from it.
      Really, they went against basics of Islam worse than Ahmadiyas

  • @osamak123
    @osamak123 2 года назад +1

    JazakAllahu khairan

  • @falcongulf5470
    @falcongulf5470 2 года назад +13

    Alhamdulillah that God made me a muslim following sunnah of prophet Muhammad peace be upon him

    • @twenty_four24.
      @twenty_four24. 2 года назад

      I mean even as a non Muslim, non believer in religion.. If your prophets sunnah includes praising those who killed his family then go ahead. I just very much doubt that would ever be included in it personally.

    • @dazaiosamu7316
      @dazaiosamu7316 2 года назад +3

      @@twenty_four24. lmao...again with that trashy old argument that umar r.a burnt the house.... I'm fed up of explaining people

  • @aafuuu
    @aafuuu 2 года назад +89

    10:03 "we have a general rule, we basically do the opposite of what you guys do" 🤣
    Do I have to spell this out? I'm laughing because I agree with Farid

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад

      Definition of ahle sunnah :
      1. One who believes Allah enters creation.
      2. One who believes Allah creates human actions and whatever we wish is created by Allah and whatever we do is created by Allah and we wish what Allah creates.
      Basically we are just puppets.
      3. Allah will come in qaymah in shape of creation such that prophets and others will deny him as being a God until he will come in shape which they know .

    • @asm4912
      @asm4912 2 года назад +21

      @@rationalmind3785 astagfirullah noone will see god in the dunya and god doesn't look like anything

    • @Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights
      @Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights 2 года назад +1

      @@rationalmind3785
      Tf is this nigga

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад

      @@asm4912
      Yes no one will see God in this dunya and also in Akhirah.
      But ahle sunnah believes God is seen in dreams and prophet saw it with his eyesight already as a young man with no beard. Also, they will see in qayamah in created form. How do I get this?? Because the hadees says Allah will come in a form which they don't know and he will say I'm Allah. They will reply we seek protection of you from our lord. 😂😂😂😂😂😂.
      So basically they will not recognise him as God means he will be in created shape.. so the hadees continues and says: he will come in that form which they will recognise and in one hadees it says Allah will show them his shin as a recognition that he is Allah 🤣🤣
      May Allah curse those narrators who fabricated this shirk

    • @youtubeboxing719
      @youtubeboxing719 2 года назад +3

      Danger man do you believe In mutah

  • @JamesCameron881
    @JamesCameron881 2 года назад +54

    MashaAllah Farid Brother May Allah keep you safe and increase your knowledge
    *Aameen*

    • @ssunarno7624
      @ssunarno7624 2 года назад +1

      اَمِين يَا رَبَّ الْعَالَمِيْن 🤲

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад

      Definition of ahle sunnah :
      1. One who believes Allah enters creation.
      2. One who believes Allah creates human actions and whatever we wish is created by Allah and whatever we do is created by Allah and we wish what Allah creates.
      Basically we are just puppets.
      3. Allah will come in qaymah in shape of creation such that prophets and others will deny him as being a God until he will come in shape which they know .

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад

      @@abuabbas3695
      Why would I do such a thing? That's what I was thought from childhood and found in creed books of ahl sunnah

    • @wahidjang9672
      @wahidjang9672 2 года назад

      Ameen.

  • @happinesstolerant
    @happinesstolerant 2 года назад +44

    Bayat is under the impression that the more he says "brother", the more correct he will sound.

  • @ThinkingFreedom
    @ThinkingFreedom 2 года назад +50

    1:21:04 “I’m just quoting your infallible Imams bro.”
    Lmao Farid is absolutely hilarious. Someone make a meme.

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад

      Definition of ahle sunnah :
      1. One who believes Allah enters creation.
      2. One who believes Allah creates human actions and whatever we wish is created by Allah and whatever we do is created by Allah and we wish what Allah creates.
      Basically we are just puppets.
      3. Allah will come in qaymah in shape of creation such that prophets and others will deny him as being a God until he will come in shape which they know .

    • @alizaheer9958
      @alizaheer9958 2 года назад

      @@talhazaheer1668 yeah with Sunni wives

    • @a.d2019
      @a.d2019 2 года назад +6

      @@rationalmind3785 Empty words, from an empty soul.

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад

      @@a.d2019
      Yes I get it you are suffering

    • @user-ov2qd3bw7w
      @user-ov2qd3bw7w Год назад

      @@talhazaheer1668 funny because Sunnis have their own type of temporary marriage

  • @garv3317
    @garv3317 2 года назад +67

    When an 'imam' say he is not imam
    Shia's :- NO HE IS A IMAM BASED ON CONSENSUS
    When ali gave bay'ya to abu Bakr based on His will
    Shia's :- NO HE DIDN'T GAVE BAY'YA
    ,HE WAS FORCED
    Me:- 🤸🧟 Yes you really do opposite of ahle sunnah wal jamaah because you hate the truth.

    • @187a3
      @187a3 2 года назад +11

      Same as christian. Jesus pbuh said he is sent by God they say no he is God

    • @bigfish291
      @bigfish291 2 года назад +5

      That is the hallmark of formulating the belief first and then looking for evidence to support it from the text. It's similar to Christians believing that Jesus, peace be upon him, is God. They start with the belief first and then hunt for supporting evidence from the text. It leads to crooked beliefs whose crookedness is clear for outsiders but the adherents of such beliefs hold onto it even though there is clear evidence against such belief.

    • @garv3317
      @garv3317 2 года назад +8

      @@bigfish291 may Allah guide them and us

    • @bigfish291
      @bigfish291 2 года назад +4

      @@garv3317 Ameen.

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад

      Ali gave baiyah to Abu Bakr with will??? How come he believed him to be liar and a sinner even after he died???

  • @housse51
    @housse51 2 года назад +21

    Alhamdulillah ustadh fareed have done a great job.

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад

      Definition of ahle sunnah :
      1. One who believes Allah enters creation.
      2. One who believes Allah creates human actions and whatever we wish is created by Allah and whatever we do is created by Allah and we wish what Allah creates.
      Basically we are just puppets.
      3. Allah will come in qaymah in shape of creation such that prophets and others will deny him as being a God until he will come in shape which they know .

    • @housse51
      @housse51 2 года назад +5

      @@rationalmind3785
      @Danger man 1. Wrong. Allah is fawqa samawaatihi *baainun* li khalqihi.
      2. Jabariyah not ahlus sunnah
      3. Wrong. In the hadith the word "creation" does not exist. You've added your crooked understanding into the text. We believe Allah can be seen in the Akheera without asking how.

  • @baran1455
    @baran1455 2 года назад +34

    Hope Edip Yuksel is next akhuna Farid! You have already given him a lesson at clubhouse.We need a long session now inshaallah

    • @turkishsalafi9819
      @turkishsalafi9819 2 года назад +5

      Edip Yuksel is a gerizekali. Anyone that takes him serious is foolish. IDK why hadith rejectors even study history tbh.

    • @jonasben9649
      @jonasben9649 2 года назад +2

      @@turkishsalafi9819 how do they even study history while rejecting the most accurate way of transmitting history

    • @turkishsalafi9819
      @turkishsalafi9819 2 года назад

      @@jonasben9649 According to who? secular understanding of history have a secular underpining. You don't accept Islamic sources you simply question them, thats the problem. Orientialists are very clear that the hadith tradition is rich and full of knowledge.

    • @jonasben9649
      @jonasben9649 2 года назад

      @@turkishsalafi9819 what

    • @sobhi1423
      @sobhi1423 2 года назад

      @Ahmad Shamil wait you are shia and you have your own hadith

  • @MrJul12
    @MrJul12 2 года назад +15

    I only have one question. WHY IS THIS NOT UPLOADED ON Sunnah Discourse Channel?!! this discussion is GOLD!

  • @nabeels7325
    @nabeels7325 2 года назад +15

    This joker has been refuted so many times, is he going to get the Sunni discourse videos removed as well? He’s always losing, of course

    • @retrochronic44
      @retrochronic44 Год назад

      Who has been refuted? The shia or Farid?

  • @irfaankhan8035
    @irfaankhan8035 2 года назад +15

    This is gonna be a treat

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад

      Definition of ahle sunnah :
      1. One who believes Allah enters creation.
      2. One who believes Allah creates human actions and whatever we wish is created by Allah and whatever we do is created by Allah and we wish what Allah creates.
      Basically we are just puppets.
      3. Allah will come in qaymah in shape of creation such that prophets and others will deny him as being a God until he will come in shape which they know .

    • @kaashee
      @kaashee 4 месяца назад

      @@rationalmind3785definition of a Shia -
      1) a Persian jew.

  • @leonidasanaxandridas6163
    @leonidasanaxandridas6163 2 года назад +74

    This was a painful listen. Syed Ali just doesn’t understand standards. Diluting, conflating, confusing arguments and not answering questions directly by continuous over talking amongst condescending remarks is the sign of a weak argument and overall a narrow mind. Oh, yes, forgot to mention, the level of deflection and deception was something else...

    • @SlazeM7
      @SlazeM7 2 года назад +7

      @Abba Abba What? This guy is the same in terms of knowledge as Ali Dawah? Sorry but it feels you have a vendetta against Ali Dawah.

    • @SlazeM7
      @SlazeM7 2 года назад +3

      @Abba Abba And who are these scholars?

    • @intazario
      @intazario 2 года назад

      Because it is a conversation with a sect you don’t belong, you feel so painful?
      Are you following the prophets sunan to bring people together or are you following pre Islamic pagans who curse everyone who opposes their opinion ?

    • @intazario
      @intazario 2 года назад

      Because it is a conversation with a sect you don’t belong, you feel so painful?
      Are you following the prophets sunan to bring people together or are you following pre Islamic pagans who curse everyone who opposes their opinion ?

    • @SlazeM7
      @SlazeM7 2 года назад +5

      @@intazario I see no one cursing anyone here. Unless you are referring to the Shias actually cursing the sahaba and the Prophet saw's wives.

  • @muhammadsaifuddin8378
    @muhammadsaifuddin8378 2 года назад +22

    *correction: Christians THINK they saw Jesus die on the cross.

  • @MMh247
    @MMh247 2 года назад +2

    Can’t wait for @ebnhussein response and Analysis of this

  • @Truprops
    @Truprops 2 года назад +1

    Searched brother farids debates & lectures on podcast today can’t find them, aren’t they available on it if they are available on it please do share me link. JazakAllah khair love you brothers for the sake of Allah from Hyderabad, India. 😊

  • @elfenomeno5498
    @elfenomeno5498 2 года назад +3

    MashaAllah brother ❤☝

  • @abdjeff5760
    @abdjeff5760 2 года назад +8

    1:06:32 most sincere apology in the world lol

  • @FaisalR91
    @FaisalR91 3 месяца назад +1

    Did he really just say that a general rule within Shiism is that if Sunnis do something, they will do the opposite?
    So whether they are right or completely wrong, they will make sure to do the opposite?
    I’m so glad he said that, that explains so much

  • @jimfromwakanda7991
    @jimfromwakanda7991 2 года назад +8

    The most stupidest of reasoning, we just believe in the opposite 🤣🤣🤣
    Accepting rejecting the imam of your time doesn't = 12 imams of your time 🤣🤣🤣

  • @oelmanfaluty
    @oelmanfaluty 2 года назад

    Barak Allahu feek ya akhi

  • @AzamatBagatov413
    @AzamatBagatov413 2 года назад +10

    The other guy who was using bad language, that’s counter productive. Please don’t allow anyone to abuse anyone. It makes people defensive and less open to truth.

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад +1

      Definition of ahle sunnah :
      1. One who believes Allah enters creation.
      2. One who believes Allah creates human actions and whatever we wish is created by Allah and whatever we do is created by Allah and we wish what Allah creates.
      Basically we are just puppets.
      3. Allah will come in qaymah in shape of creation such that prophets and others will deny him as being a God until he will come in shape which they know .

    • @AzamatBagatov413
      @AzamatBagatov413 2 года назад +3

      @@rationalmind3785
      I don't agree with any of the statements you made. 🤷
      Do you think we can invoke or make dua to anyone other than Allah?

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад +1

      @@AzamatBagatov413
      That's what prophet thought to a sahabi who was blind and later during the time of Usman bin affan one sahabi Usman bin hunaif thought to one person .
      Anyways are you ready to discuss anyone topic I just mentioned?

    • @mohameda5947
      @mohameda5947 2 года назад +2

      @@rationalmind3785 the prophet taught calling to Allah, alone.

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад +1

      @@julinaonYT
      No it's Sunni ideology that everything they do is controlled and predestined by Allah and whatever he wishes we wish... So yes as per Sunni belief we all are puppets

  • @homersimpson6787
    @homersimpson6787 2 года назад

    Where can learn more ? Are there any online courses ? ( I know they are but I lost a link to a certain site )

  • @taariq_abdoolWadood
    @taariq_abdoolWadood 2 года назад +2

    Gotta get it in before the 48 expires

  • @nawabsaifudin3945
    @nawabsaifudin3945 2 года назад +6

    pls tell the adminstrators to just keep quiet and not get involved with the speakers and keep their comments to themselves

  • @criteriagoodmanners
    @criteriagoodmanners 2 года назад +23

    26:10 he's trying to act smart and tries to show off by saying he's quoting these things from hai head 😂 then goes off to double check and gets it wrong but changes the goalposts

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад

      Definition of ahle sunnah :
      1. One who believes Allah enters creation.
      2. One who believes Allah creates human actions and whatever we wish is created by Allah and whatever we do is created by Allah and we wish what Allah creates.
      Basically we are just puppets.
      3. Allah will come in qaymah in shape of creation such that prophets and others will deny him as being a God until he will come in shape which they know .

    • @criteriagoodmanners
      @criteriagoodmanners 2 года назад +13

      @@rationalmind3785
      Shi'ism:
      1. the imoms control all the atoms of the universe
      2. but they were oppressed
      3. Ahl-Sunnah laughing

    • @jimfromwakanda7991
      @jimfromwakanda7991 2 года назад +2

      @@rationalmind3785 are you talking about christianity or shiaism??

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад

      @@jimfromwakanda7991 there is no difference between Sunnism and Christianity

    • @jimfromwakanda7991
      @jimfromwakanda7991 2 года назад +4

      @@rationalmind3785 you definitely DON'T know what you're talking about 🤣🤣🤣🤣
      Either you're shia or hindutva 🤣🤣

  • @tamimi8085
    @tamimi8085 2 года назад +32

    Minute 21:03
    for Shia IT DOESN'T MATTER who said what as long it supports their cult .
    Sayed Ali : Ayatollah Motahhari wrote a book called islam and pluralism.
    Farid : is he an infallible Imam ?
    Sayed Ali : IT DOESN'T MATTER

    • @intazario
      @intazario 2 года назад +1

      Yea and tamimis are cursed by the prophet sawaw in hadees of khawarij

    • @tamimi8085
      @tamimi8085 2 года назад

      @@intazario
      Don’t lie on the prophet pbuh , your seat will be preserved in hell fire , Tameem al-Daari was a companion of the prophet pbuh .

    • @intazario
      @intazario 2 года назад +1

      @@tamimi8085 read the hadees about khawarij sweetheart. By an entire book on them.
      Surely bani tamim will fight dajjal but dajjal will also come from them.
      It’s in Bukhari a person comes from banu tamim and says pray for us banu tamim. He refuses thrice!

    • @tamimi8085
      @tamimi8085 2 года назад

      @@intazario
      You said “tamimis are cursed by the prophet “pbuh , provide the Hadith reference which says that or ur lying on the prophet pbuh

    • @intazario
      @intazario 2 года назад

      There is a variant on the hadees of zul khuwesra al tamimi the first kharaji. Prophet sawaw said from his progeny will come 72 sects of Islam. He cursed him…
      Typical khawarij behaviour you have displayed, making takfeer for no reason and making followers of Ali as sound like idiots for no reason.
      Go read more about khawarij and don’t be like them.
      Sorry for hurting you, I only meant this as a response that the same can be said about you. I hope you can forgive me.

  • @TawheedPromoter
    @TawheedPromoter 2 года назад +8

    Plz make short videos about Maturidis and Asharis a much needed topic

  • @principlemethods5281
    @principlemethods5281 2 года назад +4

    At least Ali said "I have to check tbh" when Farid asked him a question he didn't know. Many people will just lie and make something up. I like how Farid and Ali had a decent discussion. Wish there were more discussions like this. One way to improve is to give each person three minutes and allow both people to ask equal amount of questions or an equal amount of time to ask questions.

  • @nawabsaifudin3945
    @nawabsaifudin3945 2 года назад +8

    bro Farid i think you should tell the co ordinators to really shut up otherwise your intellectual discussions will be wasted by these imatures

  • @zayn3134
    @zayn3134 2 года назад +48

    Just follow what shia say in the begining he will contradict himself in the end😑😑😑😑

    • @444TripleH
      @444TripleH 2 года назад +10

      Sounds like someone we all know........... Here's a clue to this person:
      "I have an aNxIeTy IsSuE"

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад

      Definition of ahle sunnah :
      1. One who believes Allah enters creation.
      2. One who believes Allah creates human actions and whatever we wish is created by Allah and whatever we do is created by Allah and we wish what Allah creates.
      Basically we are just puppets.
      3. Allah will come in qaymah in shape of creation such that prophets and others will deny him as being a God until he will come in shape which they know .

  • @mohameda5947
    @mohameda5947 2 года назад +4

    No offence to the moderator, but he has demonstrated that he may not be suitable for this role.

  • @I-Support-The-Mujahidin
    @I-Support-The-Mujahidin 2 года назад

    Can someone give me timestamps?

  • @j.lforever3622
    @j.lforever3622 2 года назад

    سبحان الله وبحمده

  • @abdelloukan3248
    @abdelloukan3248 2 года назад +9

    🤣🤣🤣 We just do the opposite of what you guys are doing, really that is so ridiculous and childish.

  • @alowfey
    @alowfey Год назад

    Can someone give me the citation of Imam Baqir denying he is an Imam in Al Kafi?

  • @Hals-Speakers-Corner
    @Hals-Speakers-Corner 2 года назад

    Do more please

  • @AA-th5hn
    @AA-th5hn 2 года назад

    What's his Clubhouse @ ??

  • @zapperbolt
    @zapperbolt 2 года назад

    did he come back??

  • @AslamShaik
    @AslamShaik 2 года назад

    In which platform you were having discussion?

  • @kutsc3792
    @kutsc3792 2 года назад +3

    His stupidity is really shown around the 50min mark. Props to Farid for being able to stay calm and not laugh at him.

  • @neilcastro836
    @neilcastro836 2 года назад +2

    If this Shi'i does not accept our Mutawatir narrations despite of all the attested reports and narrows then there's no point accept it from them because it will not meet the criteria of the two shaykhs.

  • @safiasaleh7322
    @safiasaleh7322 2 года назад +20

    We believe the opposite if what the Sunnis believe. What a random criteria. Knee jerk reaction what about believing in Quran and and Sunnah

  • @tachikoma7757
    @tachikoma7757 2 года назад +17

    Does this mean the imam who rejects himself as an imam is a Sunni? 😅

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад +1

      Definition of ahle sunnah :
      1. One who believes Allah enters creation.
      2. One who believes Allah creates human actions and whatever we wish is created by Allah and whatever we do is created by Allah and we wish what Allah creates.
      Basically we are just puppets.
      3. Allah will come in qaymah in shape of creation such that prophets and others will deny him as being a God until he will come in shape which they know .

    • @tachikoma7757
      @tachikoma7757 2 года назад +9

      @@rationalmind3785 definition of shia:
      Do the opposite of ahle sunnah and invoke extra gods.

  • @anoniem012
    @anoniem012 2 года назад +9

    Who is happy of the Blessing by Allah to follow the Sunnah. And not have been splitted from the Ummah (unlike shia).

  • @seekfactsnotfiction9056
    @seekfactsnotfiction9056 2 года назад +2

    _We need to LIKE👍this video and share. It carries a heavy message! We MUST support brother Farid. His work is beyond any words can express!_
    *ماشاء الله تبارك الله*
    الله يحفظك ويحميك ويخلى لك إيانا*

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад +1

      Definition of ahle sunnah :
      1. One who believes Allah enters creation.
      2. One who believes Allah creates human actions and whatever we wish is created by Allah and whatever we do is created by Allah and we wish what Allah creates.
      Basically we are just puppets.
      3. Allah will come in qaymah in shape of creation such that prophets and others will deny him as being a God until he will come in shape which they know .

  • @riam5429
    @riam5429 2 года назад

    Why just audio? Lol

  • @abdjeff5760
    @abdjeff5760 2 года назад +12

    1:12:12 "i let you do a whole audio book" lol farid got jokes

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад

      Definition of ahle sunnah :
      1. One who believes Allah enters creation.
      2. One who believes Allah creates human actions and whatever we wish is created by Allah and whatever we do is created by Allah and we wish what Allah creates.
      Basically we are just puppets.
      3. Allah will come in qaymah in shape of creation such that prophets and others will deny him as being a God until he will come in shape which they know .

    • @abdjeff5760
      @abdjeff5760 2 года назад +4

      @@rationalmind3785 lol, it makes sense you think this is the definition of ahlu sunnah (which actually means "the people of the sunnah"). obviously this is what your "learned" shia teachers teach, who dont even know good arabic to start with.

    • @abdjeff5760
      @abdjeff5760 2 года назад +4

      @@rationalmind3785 did they also teach you not to give references when making a point. if i were them, i wouldnt too since most of their evidences are either fabrications or authentic but sadly they distort its meaning and misinterpret the narration to deceive the people

    • @abdjeff5760
      @abdjeff5760 2 года назад +2

      @@rationalmind3785 didnt know you was such a beg, until i saw that u replied to nearly everyone with the same bs definition your "learned" teachers taught

    • @mohameda5947
      @mohameda5947 2 года назад +2

      @@rationalmind3785 why are do you keep spamming this nonsense?

  • @hasonanwar1312
    @hasonanwar1312 2 года назад +1

    Bro it's 2021 plz use cameras I get distracted after any five minutes....

    • @UmarIbnAlKhattab1
      @UmarIbnAlKhattab1 2 года назад

      Learn patience

    • @alhomsiyyah
      @alhomsiyyah 2 года назад

      there's no video on clubhouse

    • @YusufIslam1
      @YusufIslam1 2 года назад

      It's 2021. Podcasts exists and is a thing. Such as clubhouse.

  • @leemajor5003
    @leemajor5003 2 года назад +4

    1:01:03 "ive been getting DMs from shias that you like to interrupt alot lmao that was funny.

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад +1

      Definition of ahle sunnah :
      1. One who believes Allah enters creation.
      2. One who believes Allah creates human actions and whatever we wish is created by Allah and whatever we do is created by Allah and we wish what Allah creates.
      Basically we are just puppets.
      3. Allah will come in qaymah in shape of creation such that prophets and others will deny him as being a God until he will come in shape which they know .

  • @Nima-ec4tr
    @Nima-ec4tr 2 года назад +4

    who else came here after farid told you in his other video

  • @abumuhamedaleealansari7811
    @abumuhamedaleealansari7811 2 года назад +33

    The shia dilemma.
    Rejecting imamate leads to Hellfire.
    The imams reject the their own imamate
    Therefore the imams are going to Hellfire

  • @almukhlabi
    @almukhlabi 2 года назад

    I almost fell asleep listening to ‘Ali when he went on the monologue. He genuinely made me tired because he went off topic.

  • @mosesrocco6614
    @mosesrocco6614 2 года назад +27

    “You also have Tawatur..”
    Sayit Ali thinks ‘Tawatur’ is another classification alongside ‘Mutawattir’. 😂 These jahil masakeen. 😂

    • @chrisdovrik2894
      @chrisdovrik2894 2 года назад +6

      In the first 5 mins, it's pretty evident he doesn't know the difference or what is 'Mutawattir'.

    • @osamamanan2723
      @osamamanan2723 2 года назад +3

      Lol. Tawatur and Mutwatir means the same😂😂

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад

      Definition of ahle sunnah :
      1. One who believes Allah enters creation.
      2. One who believes Allah creates human actions and whatever we wish is created by Allah and whatever we do is created by Allah and we wish what Allah creates.
      Basically we are just puppets.
      3. Allah will come in qaymah in shape of creation such that prophets and others will deny him as being a God until he will come in shape which they know .

    • @mosesrocco6614
      @mosesrocco6614 2 года назад +7

      @@rationalmind3785
      The Quran says call on Allah alone for help...
      The Shia say nope. Call on the imams.
      The Quran says haj is the pilgrimage for a Muslim...
      Shiism says Karbala is better than that.
      The Quran says the prophets companions please Allah and Allah is pleased with them.
      The Shia say the companions were bandits, criminals and hypocrites.
      The Quran says the prophet’s wives are the mothers of the believers and clears them of filthy accusations against them.
      The Shia say his wives are sexually immoral liars who are guilty as charged by their accusers.
      The Quran tells us to pray that we hold no hatred towards Muslims that came before us.
      Shiism says curse long dead Muslims as a religious duty.
      The Quran says only Allah has all knowledge.
      Shiism says the imams have it too.
      The Quran says nobody will know where they will die.
      Shiism says the imams know.
      The Quran says Allah is the owner of the day of judgement.
      Shiism says no, an imam is the owner of that day.
      I could go on and on.. Your religion is not from Allah.

    • @mosesrocco6614
      @mosesrocco6614 2 года назад +4

      @@rationalmind3785
      Everything I’ve posted is direct from Shia books and scholars. It’s not an interpretation, it’s exactly the beliefs and statements. You on the other hand are telling us your interpretation of what we believe. And sadly you are misrepresenting or ignorant of the topic.
      Btw You should look up what the word ‘definition’ means.

  • @mistermannan
    @mistermannan 2 года назад +15

    So I skipped a bit because it was just going around. And 1 hour in. We're still trying to establish what mutawatir is. Oof. Must have been so frustrating.
    ACCORDING TO YOU. How can he not understand that !

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад +1

      Definition of ahle sunnah :
      1. One who believes Allah enters creation.
      2. One who believes Allah creates human actions and whatever we wish is created by Allah and whatever we do is created by Allah and we wish what Allah creates.
      Basically we are just puppets.
      3. Allah will come in qaymah in shape of creation such that prophets and others will deny him as being a God until he will come in shape which they know .

    • @mistermannan
      @mistermannan 2 года назад

      @@rationalmind3785 I suggest u put away your misconception and learn about actual Ahle Sunnah beliefs. Because what you wrote just shows your ignorance.
      I presume you're a Shia. I can make a list about your CORE beliefs that would be ridiculous to any sane person. So educate yourself about your own belief before making outlandish statements about Sunnism.

    • @alizekazmi3129
      @alizekazmi3129 2 года назад +1

      @@mistermannan please list them brother! for real these people need to be given an in face reply when they reply to comments, saying things that HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OP COMMENT. hope they open their eyes, Allah guides those who will.

  • @burhankhan9866
    @burhankhan9866 3 месяца назад

    Brother Farid mashallah, amazing intellect, manners and patience, May Allah Pak bless you even more, Aameen

  • @jimfromwakanda7991
    @jimfromwakanda7991 2 года назад +1

    Syeds conditions are NOT 2+ bro Farid it's 1+. So his conditions are actually 1 or more.

  • @m.a.r5165
    @m.a.r5165 2 года назад +1

    Moderator did an awful job

  • @zayn670
    @zayn670 2 года назад +2

    Farid getting heated here

  • @taimur74
    @taimur74 2 года назад +12

    This was a painful spanking for the Shia guy lmao 🤣

  • @NoNames824
    @NoNames824 2 года назад +2

    Syed Ali can’t even pronounce the names correctly 🤦🏾

  • @ImJuStoOGoOd
    @ImJuStoOGoOd Год назад

    Wait what? Even if a hadith is mutawathir, doesn't mean it is true. Whao. This guy doesn't even know the definition of that word.

  • @abdulmominbhati2977
    @abdulmominbhati2977 2 года назад +2

    Say habibi and you've won

    • @abdulmominbhati2977
      @abdulmominbhati2977 2 года назад

      @@ISAiah.42
      Ah!
      There is a vid of moon splitting by Sheikh Uthman, also Farid
      But you won't watch them, why ?
      Because then you will get a clear answer ,
      Then u can't bark like this to the normal laymen

  • @abdulmominbhati2977
    @abdulmominbhati2977 2 года назад

    Only if he read the most basic Mustalah Hadith book

  • @user-wl3mj2ds5m
    @user-wl3mj2ds5m 10 месяцев назад +2

    Even from a neutral perspective its so obvious baya is scared to let farid speak with his tourretes level interruption.

  • @housse51
    @housse51 2 года назад +1

    Debating a fool is painful indeed 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @azeez8399
    @azeez8399 2 года назад

    [7:45] - For me one person is sufficient. 🤦‍♂️

  • @ShezzyyShaikh
    @ShezzyyShaikh 2 года назад

    I don’t understand why they talk about quran and hadith when the quran they quote is Hafs ‘an ‘Asim, and transmitted through Sahaba.
    I don’t understand why they believe in the adalah of the sahaba of the imams, but when it comes to the Imam of Ahl ul Bayt yani Muhammad (saws) his sahaba are not trustworthy. 🤔

  • @osamarizwan2728
    @osamarizwan2728 2 года назад +1

    So Mr bayat did not know what a mutwatir hadith is. First learn then speak Mr bayat.

  • @truthseeker2095
    @truthseeker2095 2 года назад +1

    Wallahi I’ve never seen anyone dismantle this shia like how farid has done. Only other thing I would say is that the brothers should have better manners towards the rafidhi

  • @x2x0x
    @x2x0x Год назад

    Who chose these moderators? 😂 they’re terrible at it

  • @nawabsaifudin3945
    @nawabsaifudin3945 2 года назад +3

    really poor job from the co ordinators not proffesional

  • @realiststranger9481
    @realiststranger9481 2 года назад +4

    Brother Farid you are mistaken when you said narrators of a mutawatir Hadith don’t need to be Muslims.
    Remember, a matawatir Hadith is one which has multiple narrators and that all of these narrators are thiqah and they avoid major sins. A non Muslim can’t satisfy these conditions.

    • @mehwishsyed1446
      @mehwishsyed1446 2 года назад

      He was just being confident at that time and he knew that Syed Ali will not be able to get a Mutawatir hadith and that is why he said that he will accept a Mutawatir hadith as there is no Mutawatir report. That is what I understood. Allah knows best.

    • @realiststranger9481
      @realiststranger9481 2 года назад +2

      @@mehwishsyed1446 There is no need to lie, you lose credibility for one. Second, there are others who want to learn from such discussions, you have mislead them.
      As a principle, lying is haraam as well as counterproductive.

    • @mehwishsyed1446
      @mehwishsyed1446 2 года назад

      ,@@realiststranger9481 I didn't say that he lied. He later addressed it as well.

    • @mohameda5947
      @mohameda5947 2 года назад

      Perhaps what he meant, is that a mass accumulation of reports on the same point/occurence or event, would make it acceptable that they at least perceived, or observed or heard a thing, all the same, then that thing likely has occurred despite their testimony may not reflect the entire truth of it.
      For instance, people at the time of jesus saw someone who appeared to be jesus being crucified, but they dont know the reality.

    • @khadraxy
      @khadraxy 2 года назад

      No you don't need to verify anything
      If the number is big enough
      That It's impossible they would lie.
      We accept it

  • @mohamedsangare1823
    @mohamedsangare1823 2 года назад +1

    You should call out Apus for him not responding to the videos

  • @ihab505
    @ihab505 2 года назад

    Most shia's I listen to just remind me of Niccolò Machiavelli!

  • @dizzyinfo
    @dizzyinfo 2 года назад +2

    total waste of time, the shia dude ain't got a clue what he is talking about.

  • @mohammedahmad8039
    @mohammedahmad8039 2 года назад +1

    This video is getting many more views only because he ask for the video to be removed.
    They plan, and Allah plans, and Allah is the best planner.

  • @ridwan3462
    @ridwan3462 2 года назад +1

    Shias at this point should be considered a different religion

  • @tawAAkul
    @tawAAkul 2 года назад +22

    We have a general rule we do the opposite of what you do😂

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад

      Definition of ahle sunnah :
      1. One who believes Allah enters creation.
      2. One who believes Allah creates human actions and whatever we wish is created by Allah and whatever we do is created by Allah and we wish what Allah creates.
      Basically we are just puppets.
      3. Allah will come in qaymah in shape of creation such that prophets and others will deny him as being a God until he will come in shape which they know .

    • @Abdullah.996
      @Abdullah.996 2 года назад +3

      @@rationalmind3785 definition of rafida
      Reject tawhid embrace polytheism

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад +1

      @@Abdullah.996
      Yes we reject Sunnis tawheed ( Allah takes creation's form).

    • @Abdullah.996
      @Abdullah.996 2 года назад +1

      @@rationalmind3785 the rafiddah believe in 12 gods next to Allah
      Sunnis don't believe that Allah takes the form of the creation

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад +1

      @@Abdullah.996
      It's not your fault that you have been tricked 😀.
      Sahih Bukhari:
      Allah will come in a form which they will not recognise and Allah will say I'm your God. They will say you are not our God we seek refuge of Allah from you. Then Allah will come in a from which they will recognise and then start following his path towards heaven and siraat.
      Pagans

  • @mosesrocco6614
    @mosesrocco6614 2 года назад

    Why don’t the admins mute this Rafidi clown? How many times can he be allowed to interrupt with impunity?

  • @muslimWN
    @muslimWN 2 года назад +5

    May Allah SWT bless Farid!

  • @sportstherapy3084
    @sportstherapy3084 2 года назад

    Farid is part of a sect?

  • @mosesrocco6614
    @mosesrocco6614 2 года назад

    Farid must of had Sayit Ali’s glasses steaming up... 🤣

  • @osamak123
    @osamak123 2 года назад

    Does Ali (bayat) do drugs because he got smoked?

  • @UmarIbnAlKhattab1
    @UmarIbnAlKhattab1 2 года назад +2

    Does Sayit Ali have any sincerity??
    1:05:32

  • @fahadalam8322
    @fahadalam8322 Год назад +3

    Bayat Al Ganesh

  • @samurai_blitz
    @samurai_blitz 2 года назад +8

    Bayat: talks for minutes and finishes
    Farid: talks for 2-3 minutes
    Bayat: WAIT! WAIT! I DIDN'T FINISH MY POINT!!

    • @rationalmind3785
      @rationalmind3785 2 года назад +1

      Definition of ahle sunnah :
      1. One who believes Allah enters creation.
      2. One who believes Allah creates human actions and whatever we wish is created by Allah and whatever we do is created by Allah and we wish what Allah creates.
      Basically we are just puppets.
      3. Allah will come in qaymah in shape of creation such that prophets and others will deny him as being a God until he will come in shape which they know .

  • @fast_simple_learn2695
    @fast_simple_learn2695 2 года назад

    you wana one hadis i give you a book (منتخب الاثر فی امام الثانی عشر)
    and one of that ahadis that have 147 narraitor is:
    هُمْ خُلَفَائِی یا جَابِرُ وَ أَئِمَّةُ الْمُسْلِمِینَ بَعْدِی أَوَّلُهُمْ عَلِی بْنُ أَبِی طَالِبٍ علیه السلام ثُمَّ الْحَسَنُ ثُمَّ الْحُسَینُ ثُمَّ عَلِی بْنُ الْحُسَینِ ثُمَّ مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَلِی الْمَعْرُوفُ فِی التَّوْرَاةِ بِالْبَاقِرِ وَ سَتُدْرِکهُ یا جَابِرُ فَإِذَا لَقِیتَهُ فَأَقْرِئْهُ مِنِّی السَّلَامَ ثُمَّ الصَّادِقُ جَعْفَرُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ ثُمَّ مُوسَی بْنُ جَعْفَرٍ ثُمَّ عَلِی بْنُ مُوسَی ثُمَّ مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَلِی ثُمَّ عَلِی بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ ثُمَّ الْحَسَنُ بْنُ عَلِی ثُمَّ سَمِیی وَ کنِیی حُجَّةُ اللَّهِ فِی أَرْضِهِ وَ بَقِیتُهُ فِی عِبَادِهِ ابْنُ الْحَسَنِ بْنِ عَلِی الَّذِی یفْتَحُ اللَّهُ عَلَی یدِهِ مَشَارِقَ الْأَرْضِ وَ مَغَارِبَهَا

  • @abdoal-abdo2751
    @abdoal-abdo2751 2 года назад +3

    Just wondering are you perhaps a Salafi?

  • @liljaa046
    @liljaa046 2 года назад +3

    This is really shiism in a nutshell 🤦‍♀

  • @snoberjutt99
    @snoberjutt99 2 года назад +1

    I like your work brother Frid

  • @user-zi2oq6lb9e
    @user-zi2oq6lb9e 8 месяцев назад

    52:40

  • @sinomirneja771
    @sinomirneja771 2 года назад

    - Why is there a number of people who could not lie?
    - Is this a joke? What does it mean, we just do the opposite of what you do?
    - The imam says if you hear a narration from us that does not make sense, throw it at the wall (compares it with mud.)
    If you have a narration from any number of people that ends up contradicting prophet (S) it's worthless ("This religion will be kept in efficacy and power for a period of twelve successors") The same way the hadith that calls prophet (S) bewitched is worthless. If there is narration that imam has said X and there is also narration that imam has said and acted opposite to X, you will find out which one is lie or in one context both are possible. The person is at fault for not using their brain for more than counting the narrators.
    - At parts the discussion feels like a 3 v 1. Please make timed discussions so no one would interrupt the other one. It's given that you would not instantly, trough the first two word, understand the connection of your oppositions thought process to your question. Both of you are cutting each other off, it's not very Muslim of you.

  • @Hassan_MM.
    @Hassan_MM. 2 года назад

    Shias ain't asking anything Close to Trinity. So Muslims Scholars should only Focus on Christians ✝️

  • @AfghanDawah
    @AfghanDawah 2 года назад

    Haha who agrees that Sayed Ali still doesn’t know the exact meaning of Mutawater 😂.

  • @soufian2170
    @soufian2170 2 года назад +3

    Another rafidi bites the dust

  • @hotmail6544
    @hotmail6544 2 года назад +1

    The sunni Brothers need to learn adab