The ranks go in this order: F tier (7 weapons D tier (7 weapons) C tier (11 weapons) B tier (30 weapons) A tier (10 weapons) S tier (5 weapons) S+ tier (2 weapons) Skill-based (4 weapons) Not a Melee (2 weapons) Top 3
@@headphonezzz_y you dont need heal at max hp but youll definetely need it when you are under half. Its the best heal in the game so i would still rate smile as an A tier without the kills
6:13 it doesn’t give posion effect, it gives the cursed effect, if a player gets the cursed effect (the purple and black aura) you can deal more damage to them.
Scissors is coded in as a melee despite it not taking up the melee slot. But, in gg scissors CAN occupy your melee slot just like how gun with one bullet and Garcia's shotgun can occupy your eanged slot
@@cubble419 it takes up the misc slot, sure but load up a game of gg. Then, you might spawn with scissors taking your melee slot,therefore it is a melee. The reason it takes up the misc slot is because the item that gives it is misc, like how a melee can take up your misc slot if you used fortnite card, it wouldn't suddenly be considered a misc now would it?
I would say that lamp is a pretty good weon, it should be in C tier because, if you get 3 kills with it (i'm not sure if it is 3) you get the couch that does 65 dmg with a large hitbox. (also thanks for noting the bird up)
Melees from other items: Scissors (cross necklace), 20 dmg per hit, very fast, cool animation on first kill Steel sword (all expenses paid free island trip), very clunky way to oneshot people
In my opinion Smile should be in the skill based tier Not everyone is gonna get the chance to fuse and the server tends to target smiles Its very skilled based in how you get your corpses, when to eat your corpses and when to retreat But once you get fuse on a map without void AND enough hp You basically win
also, end is super hard to get, considering fortnite card is let alone hard to get (from an ffa standpoint, kit makes it much easier to get a fortnite card, kit also has an end kit anyway.) considering that, if the smile user got Ultra Instinct, the smile would be able to survive end at its max hp cap (due to end dealing 500 damage and a capped smile and Ultra Instinct have around 550 hp. Anyway, wand is only strong on open spaces. Wand is only a shutdown item on open maps like Yoint or rooftops. To be fair, most maps are open maps. Still, most of these are rare items. The only guaranteed shutdown items are probably death note and pact. Even if you do get one of those, there's still the chance that you die before you have the chance to kill the smile.
Regarding mori, it's a scenario similar to the fortnite card; a scroll is hard to obtain and mori is one of the rarest spells. Not only that, but mori does require aim similarly to America. Mori is extremely hard to obtain; it's only advantage over America is an instant kill and no death upon use.
Notes: mad murderer does 100 damage against people with mad sheriff Lamp can be evolved into couch after getting 5 kills with it Big rock damages you while you hold it, damage is equal to max health gained (even if you reach the max health cap you still take damage from holding it) Ruler's attack speed increases the lower your health is, at 25 HP you will reliably outspeed others with it Keyblade slows enemies down on hit, hard to escape it but not impossible
personally, I'd put The Man on a Leash much higher, it's actually pretty good and fun if you know how to move your avatar around in tight circles so that it gets flung around like a meowing, hissing flail of death!
Its pretty godly in some maps like towny or woodworks, basically if The Man (on a leash) is on the inside of the map with a gate-ish wall, you can fall off the void and while you fall down, you can hang out with the void, this is OVERPOWERED in modes like zs, or jgn. Its basically a free win, everyone will be mad at you and report you or something but you’re just doing you. *dev team please don’t fix this bug i beg you*
Dimmadagger is a pretty good item, its large range is incredibly broken in certain areas. Take man of nature or long plate. It is incredibly useful in a few other areas but I'm fine with these opinions.
i feel like golf club, lucille, vampirism and crescendo are all s tier weapons that you REALLY cut short, there are some other minor frustrations like buster sword and axe but i love seing other peoples opinions great job
When I was playing a casual round in ffa I got smile, realistic smg, and master spark. Sadly the round ended when I was 2 kills away from merged smile. I’m depressed bc of this. Please help me, my sanity with smile sucks
In my opinion, wands tier varies map to map, it is very high on *clear* maps like the plates (excluding slope) or spynapple, pretty good on maps like shipment, and absolutely useless on enclosed maps like arcade.
Extra notes: - Backhand Slap is actually slightly more powerful than you think as its hitbox is active FOR THE ENTIRETY OF IT'S ATTACK ANIMATION, you might expect it to hit during the slap but no, even before the impact of the slap it still counts as a hit. - thank fucking God this video wasnt made before the nerf as before the Bobm on a Stick had no self-damage, meaning you can rack up kills very easily - I might as well put rankings for removed items and admin only items (only some because I didnt memorize them all) Shadow Dio (before stand rework): A tier, high attack speed and great knock back Zenith: B tier, decent damage and attack speed but not as good as the weapon it's referencing Bat Sword: F tier, cant do any damage at all CrackedLander: S tier, basically the EyeLander but with no limit
Lil mistake at shadow axe(6:17) it doesn inflict poison it does infict curse which makes player take 20% more dmg (first hit doesn't count as 20% more dmg) oh and it stacks with other curse inflicting (or same but second one) which u can do upto 100%
@@THETRUEPOWERS Fire Axe with Ultra Instinct increases your speed by +12 and you are running at 28 passive speed and 33 swing speed with an Axe dealing maximum of 325 Damage that guarantees any hit being a kill.
man on a leash on a good map and the glitch goes from f tier to s tier cause of just how overpowered the bug is (as far as i know, me and my friend group are the only ones to know of it and no i wont tell you how)
Pipe should be a B-Tier since it has decent hitbox, decent damage not much but still its good Also bobm on a stick i recommend just go for it unless you got a good weapon but if you dont just kamikaze it onto another player WITHOUT them hitting you Shadow axe i would put it on B tier why? Because of his start animation which you cant attack on that animation and if you really need the axe and have low hp your basically done because of the animation And birch tree shouldnt be that high because the same thing as shadow axe the start animation IS TOO SLOW when you are hitting with birch tree the dude your attacking might already be off-reach and waste a lot of time
true, startup animations are a major opening for opponents to take you down. However, if you manage to not die and survive, your pretty much a menace at that point if your skilled.
this is a good tier list except for the fact chaos sabers is in b tier 3 hits and you can cero, and it has a shorter cooldown compared to hat of discipline (and yet you still called hat of discipline a weapon with a 'short cooldown', which isn't wrong, but you can't say chaos has a longer/kind of long cooldown if you say hat of discipline has a short cooldown)
same, fire axe and sugarcoat are parallel universes better than comically large spoon. In their defense, comically large spoon is a menace on open maps like rooftops or betaislands.
in my opinion spork should've been in f tier since whenever i got it i instantly die the moment i pulled out the weapon. Another thing is that from my experience it has really really low range. Sure every single melee is short range but the spork range is just... short... Again it's my opinion so comment what made you think the spork is B-tier and thank you.
I find spork useful as a surprise melee. It's not big, so it's often difficult to tell what they have equipped, the only giveaway being how noisy it is. It's best to spam your ranged (people will want to get into melee) and get em with the spork once they're in a preferred distance.
@@eggggyu5 spork's fast attack speed means it has a great kill time. Not many other melees have the same surprise factor, due to many others being larger, having more windup, or a kill time too slow. Spork kills really fast.
@@ebluegamer5397 having a good TTK (time to kill) doesn't justify a weapon, the man on a leash theoretically can be a solid weapon however it is considered horrendous mainly due to the hitbox being just the man + various other factors which can be described in a nutshell as "hard to use", the same applies here, spork can kill very quickly however that is only when you're testing it on a combat dummy, in reality things are a fair bit different since spork flops hard when it comes to fighting moving objects due to 1 hitbox frame + small hitbox for more proof, pre-buff wallace's hammer was seen as bad and unreliable because of a singular hitbox frame yet it also had a fast TTK, the same can apply to pre-buff switchblade and dimmadagger, both of which had a fast TTK yet had one hitbox frame making them bad, spork is the exact same case and without a proper hitbox change, the item can be put into F tier and no one is going to argue (well, except for you and like 2 other people, that is) additionally, in what world is a "surprise factor" going to contribute much? moreover, ignoring the extremely situational usage of "the element of surprise", spork fails miserably even at THAT job since the noise it makes is unreasonably loud tl:dr, spork is a horrible item and the only way it can be salvaged is a proper hitbox
there are way too many errors with this tier list 1) air should be a bit higher, it has a larger hitbox 2) crowbar has significantly higher dps when compared to the other 4hko weapons, D tier minimum 3) go mining should be lower it has bad dps 4) bird up isn't a reason to put a weapon higher since bird up is an upgrade and upgrades should be ranked differently from their pre-upgrade state, lamp is F tier since it can't even 4hko 5) pipe is not on D tier??? it has a good hitbox, really nice dps and if you stun your opponent with it you basically win, B tier minimum 6) bat is not on D tier either??? it can keep things off of itself and has solid dps for its hitbox + the knockback is really nice, B tier as well 7) torch should be on C tier, the burn does a lot of damage 8) axe should be C or even B tier, it has good dps and the knockback helps a lot 9) sun on a stick is easy F tier, it has horrendous dps (12.5 is very low for melee standards) and instakilling people on fire is very situational and most of the time you won't even be able to do that 10) buster sword should be in B tier it has very good dps and the wacky hitbox isnt all too wacky + the limit attack is op 11) belt should be B tier, the knockback is very good 12) bobm on a stick should also be B tier, the knockback is incredible and the only problem with the weapon is the hitbox, also you deal 65 damage while taking 35 and that's made for balancing reasons 13) comically large fork should ALSO be B tier since not having ragdoll actually makes it have higher dps since you can get over to your opponent faster after hitting + it has a great hitbox 14) kanabo should be B tier since it can get assists really easily (it does the exact minimum damage required for an assist kill + roll helps for mobility + the stun on parrying is long as hell) 15) dimmadagger should be in D tier it has very low dps and usually you won't even get a high range unless you stumbled upon an afk player 16) chair should be A tier, 65 damage goes wild 17) scimitar should be C tier, it doesn't have the damage output required in order to be a B tier weapon 18) big rock is an easy D tier, it has a horrible hitbox and is very slow, also the 150 hp takes like 2 minutes to get and it's just not worth it 19) uncle dane should definitely be C tier, the damage is too low 20) crescendo should be A tier, the dash is both good mobility AND damage since you can do a simple dash -> m1 combo and its already an instakill (100 damage) 21) golf club should be A tier its basically a 2hko with some s 22) spork is definitely F tier you're never gonna hit it properly (it has an awful hitbox) 23) energy sword 3 hit kills (36 damage) and its funny that you call it a 4hko sword and name energy sword the first one and then never bring up the term again 24) skateboard should be a very low C tier it has no damage output 25) shadow axe gives the curse effect not poison 26) masamune should be S tier its an incredible melee 27) darkheart should be lower, dash isn't too good (bad hitbox + a mere 45 damage) and the tornado can be interrupted by ragdolling (which is very common), leaving you in a very vulnerable position 28) wallace's hammer should be lower, sure it can speed up and has no limit but you aren't gonna get a noticeable buff in the first place, a solid B tier, would be F tier but it got a hitbox buff 29) stick 4 hit kills, not 3 hit kills 30) the upgrade on real knife changes nothing except for giving you +50 max hp 31) tactical fighting technique isn't skill based its really easy to use 32) tanto isn't skill based, it's just plain bad since it has no damage output 33) simon's book IS a melee because there's literally no other category you could fit this in 34) solemn lament isn't a shotgun wdym, its a long hitbox not a shotgun 35) fish isn't top 3, it has bad dps unless you corner someone and it's only really amazing on like 3 maps, low A tier 36) birch tree isn't top 2, it is very clunky and the wind up is annoying, mid S tier that's about it, hopefully you will read this and maybe even remake this tier list
@@ICantAffordARecordingSoftware air definitely isn't a good melee but it was ranked way too low, also wdym by low hitbox? it has a hitbox larger than the average melee and also, the "gl getting a hit with it when someone has a ranged" makes no sense, the same can be said about literally every melee, so banhammer is F tier because someone got awp on bp2021? fish is F tier (i mean it's not top 3 but it's still a low A tier) because someone got awp on bp2021? the list can continue
@@ICantAffordARecordingSoftware air hitbox is larger then most 4hko weapon, which make it better then other 4hko weapon (it have the same hitbox with "ice sword thing")
sugarcoat can allow for insane combos but it's kick knocks people back, giving them an opportunity to fight back. Trap people I'm corners and then combo with sugarcoat which is almost always a guaranteed kill.
Not gonna lie I’d swap darkheart and crescendo Darkhearts dash has less range and damage (plus the sword does less damage as a whole) and it’s tornado is so easy to cancel with any ragdoll, sure it has lifesteal but crescendo is quite literally a guaranteed kill if you land ur dash
@@Ernest0303 no.. it’s still basically a guaranteed kill. You just dash into them and slash them one more time, and since the dash doesn’t knock them back very far it’s pretty easy to finish them after landing ur dash
The ranks go in this order:
F tier (7 weapons
D tier (7 weapons)
C tier (11 weapons)
B tier (30 weapons)
A tier (10 weapons)
S tier (5 weapons)
S+ tier (2 weapons)
Skill-based (4 weapons)
Not a Melee (2 weapons)
Top 3
hi
What about twilight?
No the best weapon is bugged bird up with bobm. This happened to me today
How do you birdup glitch?
@@alec_GB idk man is a very strange bug
Smile is bad. Merge smile is good.
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Nah its still good as it gives like 75% of your health when eating a corpse.
@@MirabelaPanzerika63 if you are at the max hp then it won’t heal as much
@@headphonezzz_y you dont need heal at max hp but youll definetely need it when you are under half. Its the best heal in the game so i would still rate smile as an A tier without the kills
I love tree
alternate title: ranking melee weapon based on which ones i like 💀
quite literally
yeah thats kindof the point
that's...kind of the point?
6:13 it doesn’t give posion effect, it gives the cursed effect, if a player gets the cursed effect (the purple and black aura) you can deal more damage to them.
He also forgot that was stunlock item
@@MK-de7cnu good?
@@realflushed what do u mean?
Scissors is coded in as a melee despite it not taking up the melee slot. But, in gg scissors CAN occupy your melee slot just like how gun with one bullet and Garcia's shotgun can occupy your eanged slot
scissors used to be a meelee now its a misc
@@cubble419 it takes up the misc slot, sure but load up a game of gg. Then, you might spawn with scissors taking your melee slot,therefore it is a melee. The reason it takes up the misc slot is because the item that gives it is misc, like how a melee can take up your misc slot if you used fortnite card, it wouldn't suddenly be considered a misc now would it?
You didnt metion that lamb can turn into fricking Couch with 3 klls 💀
you realize how hard it is to upgrade that item right?
@@BasicTabby no its not just steal kills bruh dont miss you have 2 more slots for ranged and support
upgrades should be ranked separately from their original item
Lamb 🐑 💀💀
@@Femboy_Frostyfrfr
Thank you for this very useful Information
this is a pretty good list, nice work!
Thanks!
@@BasicTabbyWhy not put birch tree at A-Tier? The reason is the birch tree has a delay before use and long wind up
I would say that lamp is a pretty good weon, it should be in C tier because, if you get 3 kills with it (i'm not sure if it is 3) you get the couch that does 65 dmg with a large hitbox. (also thanks for noting the bird up)
Melees from other items:
Scissors (cross necklace), 20 dmg per hit, very fast, cool animation on first kill
Steel sword (all expenses paid free island trip), very clunky way to oneshot people
7:13 slight correction on Wallace's hammer: you don't need kills to make it faster, you just need to get as much hits as possible
In my opinion
Smile should be in the skill based tier
Not everyone is gonna get the chance to fuse and the server tends to target smiles
Its very skilled based in how you get your corpses, when to eat your corpses and when to retreat
But once you get fuse on a map without void AND enough hp
You basically win
smile pairs better with speed boosters like sunshine in a bag or sneakers so you can escape powerful enemies and quickly eat corpses.
Death note, pact, someone who got mori from scroll, someone who got end from fortnite card, some random wand:
true, but most of those items are pretty rare to get, and with America you can miss
also, end is super hard to get, considering fortnite card is let alone hard to get (from an ffa standpoint, kit makes it much easier to get a fortnite card, kit also has an end kit anyway.)
considering that, if the smile user got Ultra Instinct, the smile would be able to survive end at its max hp cap (due to end dealing 500 damage and a capped smile and Ultra Instinct have around 550 hp.
Anyway, wand is only strong on open spaces. Wand is only a shutdown item on open maps like Yoint or rooftops. To be fair, most maps are open maps. Still, most of these are rare items. The only guaranteed shutdown items are probably death note and pact. Even if you do get one of those, there's still the chance that you die before you have the chance to kill the smile.
Regarding mori, it's a scenario similar to the fortnite card; a scroll is hard to obtain and mori is one of the rarest spells. Not only that, but mori does require aim similarly to America. Mori is extremely hard to obtain; it's only advantage over America is an instant kill and no death upon use.
Notes: mad murderer does 100 damage against people with mad sheriff
Lamp can be evolved into couch after getting 5 kills with it
Big rock damages you while you hold it, damage is equal to max health gained (even if you reach the max health cap you still take damage from holding it)
Ruler's attack speed increases the lower your health is, at 25 HP you will reliably outspeed others with it
Keyblade slows enemies down on hit, hard to escape it but not impossible
Uhmhmhmhmm it evos to couch in like 3 kills 🤓
@@soldier9611 no its like 2 kills
@@yuruto.9473it’s 3 kills dummy
@@yuruto.94733 kills to evo
Keyblade cant slow the enemies
Is it just me or at 8:18 fish spin attack fits very well with train theme.
no just two different rhythms
Really good video man.
I love the editing and the thumbnail. Keep going bro.
(I am now epicly subbed)
personally, I'd put The Man on a Leash much higher, it's actually pretty good and fun if you know how to move your avatar around in tight circles so that it gets flung around like a meowing, hissing flail of death!
Its pretty godly in some maps like towny or woodworks, basically if The Man (on a leash) is on the inside of the map with a gate-ish wall, you can fall off the void and while you fall down, you can hang out with the void, this is OVERPOWERED in modes like zs, or jgn. Its basically a free win, everyone will be mad at you and report you or something but you’re just doing you.
*dev team please don’t fix this bug i beg you*
Its good,not the best but is not that bad people say
No.
7:16 the attack speed increases with each HIT, making it an absolute shredder on some bosses
Dimmadagger is a pretty good item, its large range is incredibly broken in certain areas. Take man of nature or long plate. It is incredibly useful in a few other areas but I'm fine with these opinions.
Btw, croccy friend has a lingering hitbox so take that into consideration
i feel like golf club, lucille, vampirism and crescendo are all s tier weapons that you REALLY cut short, there are some other minor frustrations like buster sword and axe but i love seing other peoples opinions great job
Fire axe + Ultra Instinct is just too op
When I was playing a casual round in ffa I got smile, realistic smg, and master spark. Sadly the round ended when I was 2 kills away from merged smile. I’m depressed bc of this. Please help me, my sanity with smile sucks
cool video
In my opinion, wands tier varies map to map, it is very high on *clear* maps like the plates (excluding slope) or spynapple, pretty good on maps like shipment, and absolutely useless on enclosed maps like arcade.
Yo what’s the music you’re using?
you can move in other directions with ruler if you use shift lock
Extra notes:
- Backhand Slap is actually slightly more powerful than you think as its hitbox is active FOR THE ENTIRETY OF IT'S ATTACK ANIMATION, you might expect it to hit during the slap but no, even before the impact of the slap it still counts as a hit.
- thank fucking God this video wasnt made before the nerf as before the Bobm on a Stick had no self-damage, meaning you can rack up kills very easily
- I might as well put rankings for removed items and admin only items (only some because I didnt memorize them all)
Shadow Dio (before stand rework): A tier, high attack speed and great knock back
Zenith: B tier, decent damage and attack speed but not as good as the weapon it's referencing
Bat Sword: F tier, cant do any damage at all
CrackedLander: S tier, basically the EyeLander but with no limit
I miss old shadow dio is very op in roof map and you can get it without arrow
zenith is cracked with autoclicker
@@illmikumikuyouu Dawg you have to hold
Allusions should have been in the skill based section if it was in this video
Fair reminder you can shift lock to instantly change the direction of most movement based items
i remember when it was april fools the superman spin combo was cracked
crowbar got updated recently and has become S tier
Sinced the switchblade had to be in tier A cuz that speed and the fact of its a 3 hits weapon its literaly a chaos saber but shorter
air haves crazy hitboxes that can be used to damage your opponent while he cant
Whats the song in the background
the bats interaction also works on anyone with the magic emote equipped
magic, xd emotes and furry tag
@@jakcesleepingrn5739reimu!
I use ruler as a dash and its busted just reequip dash wait for cool down rinse and repeat unless you’re low enough to just spam
end, tsar bobm, instant death: my honest reaction to that information
Vampirism is so overpowered it also heals you when YIU are biting someone
Lil mistake at shadow axe(6:17) it doesn inflict poison it does infict curse which makes player take 20% more dmg (first hit doesn't count as 20% more dmg) oh and it stacks with other curse inflicting (or same but second one) which u can do upto 100%
And fire axe has funny thingy with ultra incisting (or smth i forgor le name) it gives 6+ speed and well... the music when holding.
@@THETRUEPOWERS
Fire Axe with Ultra Instinct increases your speed by +12 and you are running at 28 passive speed and 33 swing speed with an Axe dealing maximum of 325 Damage that guarantees any hit being a kill.
@@AkakunaA-and no cooldown of fireaxe
it gives two stacks of curse so +40%, i tested this back when curse only added 1.8 damage
man on a leash on a good map and the glitch goes from f tier to s tier cause of just how overpowered the bug is (as far as i know, me and my friend group are the only ones to know of it and no i wont tell you how)
And only 2 melee above smile are the kit only which is plain twilight and no juggernaut mimicry
4:41 spelling error spotted
Honourable mention: twilight
i actually saw a spork kill a birch tree then went on a 7 kill streak
golf club is literally a 2 hit on normal health and 3 hit on ultra instinct/miami users
Allusions: *Am i a joke to you?*
Its hard to get a smile merge when everyone us targetting u
Sadly sugarcoat got nerfed, on the 5th combo hit it flings the player to get them out the stun lock
You still can push the enemy on the wall to stunlock it
Though on maps like beta islands that kick sends them FLYING
“erm actually, sugarcoat got buffed” 🤓
Pipe should be a B-Tier since it has decent hitbox, decent damage not much but still its good
Also bobm on a stick i recommend just go for it unless you got a good weapon but if you dont just kamikaze it onto another player WITHOUT them hitting you
Shadow axe i would put it on B tier why? Because of his start animation which you cant attack on that animation and if you really need the axe and have low hp your basically done because of the animation
And birch tree shouldnt be that high because the same thing as shadow axe the start animation IS TOO SLOW when you are hitting with birch tree the dude your attacking might already be off-reach and waste a lot of time
true, startup animations are a major opening for opponents to take you down. However, if you manage to not die and survive, your pretty much a menace at that point if your skilled.
@@rudawuia yeah the only thing that the target might already be off-reach and considering wacky hitboxes you wouldnt hit him
true, they also could create an opening for the opponent to strike back after moving out of range.
Crowbar + master spark = free ein in men of nature perfect run
Why do people think smile is the best.
As if you are gonna merge without dying.
Once you get. 3/9 kills with smile then your good to just use smile itself.
Birded up twilight has left the chat:
this is a good tier list except for the fact chaos sabers is in b tier
3 hits and you can cero, and it has a shorter cooldown compared to hat of discipline (and yet you still called hat of discipline a weapon with a 'short cooldown', which isn't wrong, but you can't say chaos has a longer/kind of long cooldown if you say hat of discipline has a short cooldown)
also the fireaxe + ultra instinct combo exists so i don't get why fireaxe is in b tier
How did stick not get 2nd place or atleast 3rd
Mad murder aprilfool 🗣💀💀🔥🔥🔥
but but what about lamps upgrade?
Mad murderer one shots a person with a mad sheriff btw
Honestly man in the leash is b+ for me because i can make it a helicopter look a like without getting flung and i get many damage of off that
thing is, you can't hit anyone that isn't a combat dummy
man on a leash is bad because it's so hard to aim and has the most broken, crappy physics.
if they fixed the physics of man on a leash or reworked it entirely it would be better.
Man on the leash:
Sugarcoat is my favourite weapon because it is funny
And punishment bird twilight?
Where is painted sword and in what tier you will put it?
lamp = couch too.
i think i know the reference from eyelander
Assailant is S+ with small skill usage, based on me!
Legion kata can solo Minos dummy if you get a good ranged item with it.
Yeah that's why it's in skill based tier
Lamp can also become couch
6:14 uhm actually it’s actually called a curse affect and the green one is poison- 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
cursed icecream
I kinda hate Lucille and Kanabo because I have skill issue and just don’t know how to use them
And shadow dio?
I personally dont agree that sugarcoat and fire axe is bellow comical spoon but my opinion so
same, fire axe and sugarcoat are parallel universes better than comically large spoon. In their defense, comically large spoon is a menace on open maps like rooftops or betaislands.
Smile is only good with a good ranged, misc or on a small map.
So mikel p with smile plus Franklin badge so no death note is looking a little scary now.
that actually might be the best loadout in ffa
Franklin badge is a great combo with smile, because you are now immune to one of the most infamous shutdown items
@@rudawuia I mean ye also no unfunny tazer :)
You forgot ruler Becomes faster The Less HP you have
in my opinion spork should've been in f tier since whenever i got it i instantly die the moment i pulled out the weapon. Another thing is that from my experience it has really really low range. Sure every single melee is short range but the spork range is just... short... Again it's my opinion so comment what made you think the spork is B-tier and thank you.
I find spork useful as a surprise melee. It's not big, so it's often difficult to tell what they have equipped, the only giveaway being how noisy it is. It's best to spam your ranged (people will want to get into melee) and get em with the spork once they're in a preferred distance.
@@ebluegamer5397unfortunately every melee can do that + spork has a horrible hitbox
same the hitbox is kinda trash compared to others
@@eggggyu5 spork's fast attack speed means it has a great kill time. Not many other melees have the same surprise factor, due to many others being larger, having more windup, or a kill time too slow. Spork kills really fast.
@@ebluegamer5397 having a good TTK (time to kill) doesn't justify a weapon, the man on a leash theoretically can be a solid weapon however it is considered horrendous mainly due to the hitbox being just the man + various other factors which can be described in a nutshell as "hard to use", the same applies here, spork can kill very quickly however that is only when you're testing it on a combat dummy, in reality things are a fair bit different since spork flops hard when it comes to fighting moving objects due to 1 hitbox frame + small hitbox
for more proof, pre-buff wallace's hammer was seen as bad and unreliable because of a singular hitbox frame yet it also had a fast TTK, the same can apply to pre-buff switchblade and dimmadagger, both of which had a fast TTK yet had one hitbox frame making them bad, spork is the exact same case and without a proper hitbox change, the item can be put into F tier and no one is going to argue (well, except for you and like 2 other people, that is)
additionally, in what world is a "surprise factor" going to contribute much? moreover, ignoring the extremely situational usage of "the element of surprise", spork fails miserably even at THAT job since the noise it makes is unreasonably loud
tl:dr, spork is a horrible item and the only way it can be salvaged is a proper hitbox
there are way too many errors with this tier list
1) air should be a bit higher, it has a larger hitbox
2) crowbar has significantly higher dps when compared to the other 4hko weapons, D tier minimum
3) go mining should be lower it has bad dps
4) bird up isn't a reason to put a weapon higher since bird up is an upgrade and upgrades should be ranked differently from their pre-upgrade state, lamp is F tier since it can't even 4hko
5) pipe is not on D tier??? it has a good hitbox, really nice dps and if you stun your opponent with it you basically win, B tier minimum
6) bat is not on D tier either??? it can keep things off of itself and has solid dps for its hitbox + the knockback is really nice, B tier as well
7) torch should be on C tier, the burn does a lot of damage
8) axe should be C or even B tier, it has good dps and the knockback helps a lot
9) sun on a stick is easy F tier, it has horrendous dps (12.5 is very low for melee standards) and instakilling people on fire is very situational and most of the time you won't even be able to do that
10) buster sword should be in B tier it has very good dps and the wacky hitbox isnt all too wacky + the limit attack is op
11) belt should be B tier, the knockback is very good
12) bobm on a stick should also be B tier, the knockback is incredible and the only problem with the weapon is the hitbox, also you deal 65 damage while taking 35 and that's made for balancing reasons
13) comically large fork should ALSO be B tier since not having ragdoll actually makes it have higher dps since you can get over to your opponent faster after hitting + it has a great hitbox
14) kanabo should be B tier since it can get assists really easily (it does the exact minimum damage required for an assist kill + roll helps for mobility + the stun on parrying is long as hell)
15) dimmadagger should be in D tier it has very low dps and usually you won't even get a high range unless you stumbled upon an afk player
16) chair should be A tier, 65 damage goes wild
17) scimitar should be C tier, it doesn't have the damage output required in order to be a B tier weapon
18) big rock is an easy D tier, it has a horrible hitbox and is very slow, also the 150 hp takes like 2 minutes to get and it's just not worth it
19) uncle dane should definitely be C tier, the damage is too low
20) crescendo should be A tier, the dash is both good mobility AND damage since you can do a simple dash -> m1 combo and its already an instakill (100 damage)
21) golf club should be A tier its basically a 2hko with some s
22) spork is definitely F tier you're never gonna hit it properly (it has an awful hitbox)
23) energy sword 3 hit kills (36 damage) and its funny that you call it a 4hko sword and name energy sword the first one and then never bring up the term again
24) skateboard should be a very low C tier it has no damage output
25) shadow axe gives the curse effect not poison
26) masamune should be S tier its an incredible melee
27) darkheart should be lower, dash isn't too good (bad hitbox + a mere 45 damage) and the tornado can be interrupted by ragdolling (which is very common), leaving you in a very vulnerable position
28) wallace's hammer should be lower, sure it can speed up and has no limit but you aren't gonna get a noticeable buff in the first place, a solid B tier, would be F tier but it got a hitbox buff
29) stick 4 hit kills, not 3 hit kills
30) the upgrade on real knife changes nothing except for giving you +50 max hp
31) tactical fighting technique isn't skill based its really easy to use
32) tanto isn't skill based, it's just plain bad since it has no damage output
33) simon's book IS a melee because there's literally no other category you could fit this in
34) solemn lament isn't a shotgun wdym, its a long hitbox not a shotgun
35) fish isn't top 3, it has bad dps unless you corner someone and it's only really amazing on like 3 maps, low A tier
36) birch tree isn't top 2, it is very clunky and the wind up is annoying, mid S tier
that's about it, hopefully you will read this and maybe even remake this tier list
everything here has been said perfectly i couldn't agree more
air sucks, low damage, low hitbox, goodluck getting a single hit with it when someone has a ranged
@@ICantAffordARecordingSoftware air definitely isn't a good melee but it was ranked way too low, also wdym by low hitbox? it has a hitbox larger than the average melee
and also, the "gl getting a hit with it when someone has a ranged" makes no sense, the same can be said about literally every melee, so banhammer is F tier because someone got awp on bp2021? fish is F tier (i mean it's not top 3 but it's still a low A tier) because someone got awp on bp2021? the list can continue
@@ICantAffordARecordingSoftware air hitbox is larger then most 4hko weapon, which make it better then other 4hko weapon (it have the same hitbox with "ice sword thing")
bro if birch tree is s tier then it aint mid
And dio stand?
And twilight?
Where's the speen fish?
Twilight:
Fun fact before smile got nerfed smile did 100+ damage (I was in a VIP server)
You meant in a- nvm
In my opinion Sugar Coat should be a S tier because you can combo people on the ground which is over powered and unfair
sugarcoat can allow for insane combos but it's kick knocks people back, giving them an opportunity to fight back. Trap people I'm corners and then combo with sugarcoat which is almost always a guaranteed kill.
Oh ok, Thank you for letting me know@@rudawuia
@@rudawuiaSmall maps or open maps can be dangerous if you see a asylumer with sugarcoat and christmas
Birch tree on my opinion isnt that good bc it can get countered by a lot of weapons if i were doing the tierlist i would have put solemn talent on 2nd
nah it is if you know how to play
if u included vip server items then woulda added crackedlander
6:15 HOLD ON THATS NOT TRUE IT INFLICTS CURSE NOT POISON!!!!
Not gonna lie I’d swap darkheart and crescendo
Darkhearts dash has less range and damage (plus the sword does less damage as a whole) and it’s tornado is so easy to cancel with any ragdoll, sure it has lifesteal but crescendo is quite literally a guaranteed kill if you land ur dash
that's only on kit buddy
@@Ernest0303 no.. it’s still basically a guaranteed kill. You just dash into them and slash them one more time, and since the dash doesn’t knock them back very far it’s pretty easy to finish them after landing ur dash
woah thats a lot of words, too bad im not reading all of that@@ObesityCity
@@Ernest0303 dash + m1 = instant kill any gamemode gg ez summarized
@@Ernest0303 this is probably one of the worst response to back up your argument
scimitar on the same level as chair??? hell naw
why is vampirism so low
instath death...
"this is fine but i dont like it" bruh i be getting 47 streaks with pipe
(no hate)
Smiles only good if you can get kills with it
Item asylum devs absolutely slaughtered secare
yeah i remember when it dealt damage
Bro forgot twilght
CROWBAR DOES ALOT OF DMAGE
Twilight?
I know the music is by Aden mayo
But what song is it?
Train
1:11
couch
Smile+the men+moai🐧🐧🐧