We're the toys rubber band powered? I had a spirit of America toy with a winder on one end for the rubber band. It may have been an early snap together kit.
Segrave quits the land speed record business in favour of water. Having seen a couple of videos about the dangers of water speed records, I immediately thought "This won't end well."
@@colinmunro7337 "The [water speed] record is one of the sporting world's most hazardous competitions. Of the thirteen people who have attempted the record since June 1930 seven have died. There has been two official attempts to beat Ken Warby's 1978 record, and both resulted in the death of the pilot; Lee Taylor (1980) and Craig Arfons (1989)." (Wikipedia) After 43 years one has to wonder if Warby's record will ever be beaten.
People who are into top speed records generally don't die of old age. The Brits are unsurpassed in engineering expertise, back in the day they built some very fine equipment. As an American I have a lot of admiration for their accomplishments.
@505197, that is true of several countries... The British were great at LSR vehicles, and the US had competitive LSR vehicles as well... The Mormon Meteor, comes to mind, The Green Monster, The Spirit of America, The Golden Rod, Challenger, the blue flame, are but a few....
>unsurpassed in engineering expertise Bro America is litterally the engineering capital of the world lmao there is a reason 8/10 of the best colleges in the world are in the US
I am 64 and when I was very young a old guy gave me a windup toy car of the Golden Arrow. I still have it somewhere in the basement. Back then I thought it was just a toy. I am glad my parents always told me to keep it.
In two thousand and something I had the chance to stand alongside this incredible machine at Beaulieu Motor Museum, I christened it a 'Deco Demon'. In 1929 Art deco was at its height yet this is a movement associated with grace and dedicate femininity, yet this car seems to have somehow turned this on its head and made the whole movement menacing yet still beautiful... a masterclass in proportion. A huge slice of Deco that just happens to have a wheel on each corner. For me this is easily the fastest stationary vehicle I have ever seen. 🇬🇧🏆
Thats about the time I was there. I had a free ticket, because I offered them a rare Dashboard instrument, from the 1930's that they hadn't got ,in their vast displays.
Thank you for all these Land Speed Record car histories. These are the cars I grew up reading and dreaming about. Being from Ohio, Art Arfons was a hero of mine, and I saw him running his turbine-powered tractors in tractor pulls of the 80's and 90's.
Great coverage of my all time favourite car, propelled by one of my favourite engines. Hats off to the ingenious Mr. Irving, and the brave Mr. Segrave!
That report on the Triplex Special by Jack Irving almost sounds as if it could have been written in the modern era; it shows a much deeper understanding of aerodynamic stability than I was aware existed at the time.
There was a great amount of understanding amongst aircraft designers and manufacturers, but the application of it to land vehicles was in its relative infancy.
The comments on the Triplex were in the report on Golden Arrow that Irving presented to the Institute of Mechanical / Automotive Engineers (one became the other but I can’t remember which it was at the time of the report) in 1930, a year after Segrave’ set his last record. You can get it online but you have to buy it.
@8:35 "Despite this [the car hitting a bump and going airborne on the 180MPH run], Seagrave declared himself happy with the car, and he drove it off the sand and back to the garage through the streets of Daytona."
In 1956 my farther purchased that model of the golden arrow from Young & Whites a action place in Portsmouth. I played with it pushing it up and down our passage with my younger brother until one day we broke a wheel off the car my farther was not very happy as he told us it was the model they used before making the full size car. He later advertised the car in the exchange & mart and sold it to a collector I believe in the Bristol area who had several large models.
I just found this video in my Recommended List and I enjoyed it very much. In the 1960's, as a teenager, I subscribed to Hot Rod Magazine and became obsessed with LSR vehicles. Mickey Thompson's "Challenger" was the rage of the day, but I learned as much as I could about earlier cars and earlier attempts at the LSR as well. Thanks For The Memories !!!
Great video. Note Donald Malcolm Campbell, CBE (23 March 1921 - 4 January 1967) was a British speed record breaker who broke eight absolute world speed records on water and on land in the 1950s and 1960s. He remains the only person to set both world land and water speed records in the same year (1964).
I remember seeing Golden Arrow at Beaulieu when I was an impressionable 10 year old. It is truly breathtaking, the complete image of speed and power - and so low slung, even I towered over it. Recommended to visit.
I always loved the Golden Arrow because of it's incredible beauty. I am really glad to watch this video because I know next to nothing about it's story and also never the footages. I never thought that he would go back to the garage trough town, what a sight and sound to see it. Thanks for sharing 👍 👍
Another wonderful upload from Scarf and Goggles, and what a story. It's a beautiful car, driven by a remarkable man - I'll have to see these vehicles in the flesh.
Your videos are awesome. I'm 37 years old, I now drive like a granny. But I'll never forget the insatiable urge to be faster than the last guy. Keep it up. Subbed, 100%.
It is scayr to realise that today 180mph is achievable with ease in cars and motorcycles, albeit for the few who dare ! I take my hat off to those ingenious, incredible pioneers !!!
What a beautiful and strange looking car! Also thank you for keeping the metric conversions that you did in the re-upload of the last video, they really help!
A truly excellent docu video. I like the degree of technical details it goes into, for all the gear heads out there. England is ahead in the land speed record contest. Anybody in the USA up to the challenge?
i kept waiting for the weight... then you showed the design and production pics with those giant steel rails and yeah, i still choked a little at how much of a tank that thing is... a beautiful and incredibly engineered tank mind.
One Saturday morning in 1966 four of us piled into Chas Walters our woodwork teacher’s little car and off too Beaulieu Motor Museum we went. We were about the only people there that morning and I was allowed to sit in Golden Arrow, and the thing that has stayed with me was the twin prop shafts. There are two UJ’s, one each side of the driver’s seat, just where my elbows wanted to be, and to save weight there was no guards over the UJ’s.
Well done bravo! To my surprise while hearing some of the past recipients of the Segrave trophy near the end of the video that Jim Clark was never mentioned. Just a thought! Again, well done
Isn’t it amazing that now anybody can pop into a BMW showroom and buy a car which does more than150 mph on public roads. Usually the wrong people too ! Lovely video about Segrave. Many thanks.
Just discovered I live right near her (& other remarkable vehicles). I cannot wait to see her and her sisters. I shall film it and upload, as soon as this present crisis is past. Oh... A privelege. Golden Arrow has many notable features of the modern race car; they got so much right, and pre-empted very many aspects of performance, some which would not become commonplace even until the 70's. A wonderful video. Thanks for uploading🍀
Wonderful stuff, again, Sir, a treat of superbly-researched and patiently-presented information. My dad saw this car during its Australian tour, after it set the new record. As for Segrave, who goes anywhere near water with a name like that, doubly so on Friday the 13th!!??
I'd sooner drive a car built in the 20s/'30 at 300 mph than drive a boat built yesterday at 100 mph. Where do the get the balls? : ) GREAT video sir. Time well spent!
I would've loved for these men to see how the automotive world developed into the late 20th and early 21st century, and to be able to see a car like a McLaren F1 or Bugatti Veyron before their own eyes
Hmm... I'm not sure I agree. To be the tip of the spear in your time, and then see how flippantly a later generation will make all your hard work look easy, it can be... Disheartening. I'd leave them in the glory of their golden era, forever a standard of excellence. Stay well🍀
I agree that this must be the most beautiful landspeed car, of all time. I see it as art deco, yes. Somehow, it makes me think that if Delahaye tried for the record, it would look like THAT! .Gorgeous, impressive.
The Napier Lion--W configuration, DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder. Not much new under the sun. Pretty amazing when you realize how old that technology really is.
How do Scarf and Goggles. I posted a comment on your Sunbeam video as a resident of Daytona, in the '80s. Fans of Britain's land speed efforts, way back then, should find my comment an interesting read. I'm sorry to say, the TriPlex story was never told and I just learned the fate of Segrave. I would simply like to offer my much belated condolences to the family of the men who lost their lives. There is certainly, a high price to pay for humanity's technological achievements.
I always saw the White Triplex Special as a symptom of how America saw speed: all you need is power. The basic was there, at least the "power" part but all the remainder was just off, the streamlining was apalling, the build was pretty much the same as a 2-ton truck and, unfortunatelly, who suffered was the poor devil behing the wheel (and the unlucky cameraman who stood recording the event).
Now I have to say that this is not an historical area with which I am overly familiar; aircraft, and military ones at that, would be my usual interest. But I am old enough to remember the BBC news report on the death of Donald Campbell and his land speed record in the Proteus turbine powered Bluebird. But this was an enjoyable and educational watch, very much appreciated. It's a personal taste thing, of course, but I too think Golden Arrow is a contender for title 'most beautiful land speed car ever' though I'd be tossing a coin with the aforementioned Bluebird on the flip side. Thanks for the upload. Subscribed.
Great stories, of the Sunbeam 'Mystery' LSR vehicle, the 'Golden Arrow' Napier Lion powered car ant the 'Queen' Napier Lion powered boat... It is Ironic, that Henry Seagrave was killed on Friday the 13th in that boat, and his Last name, describing how he was finally killed... Henry SeaGrave won't soon be forgotten... The only person to hold the Land and Water speed records at the same time...
I think that it's a shame that so many of these land speed record holders never drove again. It would be nice if they could at least do some safe demonstration runs.
I remember having a model of this car when i was six years old in the fiftys i remember it was like a rocket ship i wish i still had today
I still have my 1934 Kingsbury model of this car, i love it and would never part with it.
We're the toys rubber band powered? I had a spirit of America toy with a winder on one end for the rubber band. It may have been an early snap together kit.
Had it myself. I never knew where it came from or where it went...
Segrave quits the land speed record business in favour of water. Having seen a couple of videos about the dangers of water speed records, I immediately thought "This won't end well."
They only found his body (sans his head) shortly before 9/11
Defiantly a sure way to die is attempt a water speed record!But watch Ken Warbys record runs are impressive to say the least.
@@colinmunro7337 "The [water speed] record is one of the sporting world's most hazardous competitions. Of the thirteen people who have attempted the record since June 1930 seven have died. There has been two official attempts to beat Ken Warby's 1978 record, and both resulted in the death of the pilot; Lee Taylor (1980) and Craig Arfons (1989)." (Wikipedia)
After 43 years one has to wonder if Warby's record will ever be beaten.
@@colinmunro7337 definitely?
With a name like Segrave maybe it was fate that killed him on the water.
Your content and presentation is Top Shelf. Thanks 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
This. Don't ever change S&G
People who are into top speed records generally don't die of old age. The Brits are unsurpassed in engineering expertise, back in the day they built some very fine equipment. As an American I have a lot of admiration for their accomplishments.
@505197, that is true of several countries... The British were great at LSR vehicles, and the US had competitive LSR vehicles as well... The Mormon Meteor, comes to mind, The Green Monster, The Spirit of America, The Golden Rod, Challenger, the blue flame, are but a few....
>unsurpassed in engineering expertise
Bro America is litterally the engineering capital of the world lmao there is a reason 8/10 of the best colleges in the world are in the US
@@why110 leave the weed alone pal.
@@why110 What a thoroughly graceless comment. Poor you.
@@MrDaiseymay hear hear
What a man, what a story. A long time ago. Simply incredible.
I am 64 and when I was very young a old guy gave me a windup toy car of the Golden Arrow. I still have it somewhere in the basement. Back then I thought it was just a toy. I am glad my parents always told me to keep it.
In two thousand and something I had the chance to stand alongside this incredible machine at Beaulieu Motor Museum, I christened it a 'Deco Demon'. In 1929 Art deco was at its height yet this is a movement associated with grace and dedicate femininity, yet this car seems to have somehow turned this on its head and made the whole movement menacing yet still beautiful... a masterclass in proportion. A huge slice of Deco that just happens to have a wheel on each corner. For me this is easily the fastest stationary vehicle I have ever seen. 🇬🇧🏆
It is impressive to stand next to those LSR cars.
Thats about the time I was there. I had a free ticket, because I offered them a rare Dashboard instrument, from the 1930's that they hadn't got ,in their vast displays.
i like how irving took the car in for wind tunnel testing and no changes were made. what a genius.
They've removed the word gullible from the dictionary.
Thank you for all these Land Speed Record car histories. These are the cars I grew up reading and dreaming about. Being from Ohio, Art Arfons was a hero of mine, and I saw him running his turbine-powered tractors in tractor pulls of the 80's and 90's.
Beautifully written and narrated
Great coverage of my all time favourite car, propelled by one of my favourite engines. Hats off to the ingenious Mr. Irving, and the brave Mr. Segrave!
I've seen this car at the Beaulieu motor museum and it is even more beautiful in real life than it looks on screen.
Excellent presentation. Thank you.
That report on the Triplex Special by Jack Irving almost sounds as if it could have been written in the modern era; it shows a much deeper understanding of aerodynamic stability than I was aware existed at the time.
There was a great amount of understanding amongst aircraft designers and manufacturers, but the application of it to land vehicles was in its relative infancy.
My thoughts exactly!
Where did you find it?
The comments on the Triplex were in the report on Golden Arrow that Irving presented to the Institute of Mechanical / Automotive Engineers (one became the other but I can’t remember which it was at the time of the report) in 1930, a year after Segrave’ set his last record. You can get it online but you have to buy it.
The front of Golden Arrow looks a lot like a modern F1, and other open wheel race cars .
@8:35 "Despite this [the car hitting a bump and going airborne on the 180MPH run], Seagrave declared himself happy with the car, and he drove it off the sand and back to the garage through the streets of Daytona."
Thoroughly researched story, told with feeling.
I liked this video very much and was a good tribute to a forgotten racer in many areas of the world. He truly had it in his blood.
Underrated channel. Been subbed for a few months and love every upload.
yes indeed
In 1956 my farther purchased that model of the golden arrow from Young & Whites a action place in Portsmouth. I played with it pushing it up and down our passage with my younger brother until one day we broke a wheel off the car my farther was not very happy as he told us it was the model they used before making the full size car. He later advertised the car in the exchange & mart and sold it to a collector I believe in the Bristol area who had several large models.
Cool info.
I just found this video in my Recommended List and I enjoyed it very much. In the 1960's, as a teenager, I subscribed to Hot Rod Magazine and became obsessed with LSR vehicles. Mickey Thompson's "Challenger" was the rage of the day, but I learned as much as I could about earlier cars and earlier attempts at the LSR as well. Thanks For The Memories !!!
Thanks for your comment - I'm hoping to do a video about Mickey Thompson and Challenger next year.
A pioneer and gentleman of the highest order!
This channel is such a gem!!
Can't believe I haven't had it recommended until recently.
👍🏁👍🇺🇸
Wow, thank you!
This is an amazing story!!!l I've never heard of Irving nor Golden Arrow!!!!!!!!!
I so admire these pioneers of engineering and racing. It was a different world back then.
Great video. Note Donald Malcolm Campbell, CBE (23 March 1921 - 4 January 1967) was a British speed record breaker who broke eight absolute world speed records on water and on land in the 1950s and 1960s. He remains the only person to set both world land and water speed records in the same year (1964).
I think he still holds a water speed record if I'm not mistaken
@@alexmoore432Ken Warby from Australia holds the current WSR.
Excellent technical documentary, concise, to the point ,full of interesting detail, complete lack of contrived drama. Thank you
Thank you - glad you enjoyed it!
A great story, well presented with a good 'proper' English commentary.
Henry O'Neal de Hane Segrave - known to his friends as "HODS" - Thanks for another superb video.
Glad you enjoyed it
I remember seeing Golden Arrow at Beaulieu when I was an impressionable 10 year old. It is truly breathtaking, the complete image of speed and power - and so low slung, even I towered over it. Recommended to visit.
Beaulieu has some awesome historic race cars on hand.
Yet another awesome "Boy's Own" video. Thank you for these.
Another fantastic video from an outstanding channel. The golden arrow is one of the reasons I am building a Boat Tail Speedster on my channel. Bravo!
Great story,thanks
Very interesting thank you
That was a great start to my weekend. Many thanks for another cracking vid. 😊
I always loved the Golden Arrow because of it's incredible beauty. I am really glad to watch this video because I know next to nothing about it's story and also never the footages. I never thought that he would go back to the garage trough town, what a sight and sound to see it. Thanks for sharing 👍 👍
This is such a great channel - well made and informative comment, well scripted and narrated. Deserves more subs.
What a gorgeous piece of machinery , all built around a W engine , hence the unique frontal shape.
Great stuff. Thanks for an engrossing film.
Stunning design
Another wonderful upload from Scarf and Goggles, and what a story.
It's a beautiful car, driven by a remarkable man - I'll have to see these vehicles in the flesh.
It's very well worth the effort, especially if you live in the UK. The National Motor museum at Beaulieu, is fantastic.
Very satisfying story telling, as always.
Thanks so much!
Your videos are awesome. I'm 37 years old, I now drive like a granny. But I'll never forget the insatiable urge to be faster than the last guy. Keep it up. Subbed, 100%.
I love these videos. Can’t wait to go visit the car next time I am at the museum now I better understand its story.
Great video,
Very informative, upload, thanks, I’ve seen Golden Arrow a couple of times. A truly mesmerizingly beautiful car!
It is scayr to realise that today 180mph is achievable with ease in cars and motorcycles, albeit for the few who dare ! I take my hat off to those ingenious, incredible pioneers !!!
What a beautiful and strange looking car! Also thank you for keeping the metric conversions that you did in the re-upload of the last video, they really help!
My pleasure!
Seagrave seems like a foreboding last name, when you decide to set speed records on the water.
Extremely well presented video. Thank you
great stuff well done keep it comming thanks
A truly excellent docu video. I like the degree of technical details it goes into, for all the gear heads out there. England is ahead in the land speed record contest. Anybody in the USA up to the challenge?
OHhh don't open that can of worms.
Superb, well researched and presented.
Brilliant. Thank you
Glad you liked it!
Been watching your videos. Fantastic, really well done 👍
my father was killed in a supermodified race car accident in 1993, Lee USA speedway the Oktoberfest annual event. its been rough
Sorry for your loss.
A very interesting and well put together video, thank you for sharing
Many thanks!
i kept waiting for the weight... then you showed the design and production pics with those giant steel rails and yeah, i still choked a little at how much of a tank that thing is...
a beautiful and incredibly engineered tank mind.
One Saturday morning in 1966 four of us piled into Chas Walters our woodwork teacher’s little car and off too Beaulieu Motor Museum we went. We were about the only people there that morning and I was allowed to sit in Golden Arrow, and the thing that has stayed with me was the twin prop shafts. There are two UJ’s, one each side of the driver’s seat, just where my elbows wanted to be, and to save weight there was no guards over the UJ’s.
It’s crazy how his name is sea grave.
Well done bravo! To my surprise while hearing some of the past recipients of the Segrave trophy near the end of the video that Jim Clark was never mentioned. Just a thought! Again, well done
Isn’t it amazing that now anybody can pop into a BMW showroom and buy a car which does more than150 mph on public roads. Usually the wrong people too ! Lovely video about Segrave. Many thanks.
Just 150mph? Hell, my 2004 Pontiac Gto did 160 off the show room, and that’s only because it was artificially limited
Omg someone that was berk enough to buy an '04 GTO NEW!!!
Sir, that is NOT something to flex about...
EXCELLENT DOCUMENTARY. I didn't know Segrave had died during a World Speed Record attempt, and on Water, like Cobb and Campbell. Very sad.
From a time when dreams really became a reality. Absolutely incredible 😎
Excellent. . 10/10. . .Some amazing facts and figures . . . .Cheers
Thank you kindly!
Top quality work well researched a real good watch.
Just discovered I live right near her (& other remarkable vehicles). I cannot wait to see her and her sisters. I shall film it and upload, as soon as this present crisis is past.
Oh... A privelege.
Golden Arrow has many notable features of the modern race car; they got so much right, and pre-empted very many aspects of performance, some which would not become commonplace even until the 70's.
A wonderful video.
Thanks for uploading🍀
Good point!
The front clip reminds me of a modern, F-1 car.
Very interesting. Thanks!
I saw this car on display at the Beauleau car museum.
Wow thanks for the great video cheers
Wonderful stuff, again, Sir, a treat of superbly-researched and patiently-presented information. My dad saw this car during its Australian tour, after it set the new record. As for Segrave, who goes anywhere near water with a name like that, doubly so on Friday the 13th!!??
I'm not superstitious, but, wow, that sure would be a bad combination for anyone who would be!
Well spotted---but I missed the Name connection
Thanks.
I have a spring driven toy car like the Golden Arrow that was my father's that he got in the early 1930's
Me too.
I'd sooner drive a car built in the 20s/'30 at 300 mph than drive a boat built yesterday at 100 mph.
Where do the get the balls? : ) GREAT video sir. Time well spent!
Another cracking review keep up these videos up I absolutely love these stories and how the records actually happened ;)
Really enjoy your presentations on speed record challenges. Whether by auto, plane or boat.
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Great inventors and Bravery in those days.
the profile 2:30 looks like the ground effects GP cars that would begin to appear 35 years later!
Love your channel
My father John William Henry March fabricated the wood for the Golden Arrow body
I would've loved for these men to see how the automotive world developed into the late 20th and early 21st century, and to be able to see a car like a McLaren F1 or Bugatti Veyron before their own eyes
Hmm... I'm not sure I agree. To be the tip of the spear in your time, and then see how flippantly a later generation will make all your hard work look easy, it can be... Disheartening.
I'd leave them in the glory of their golden era, forever a standard of excellence.
Stay well🍀
The Golden Arrow was the most well designed and good looking of the early LSR machines.
I have to agree. But when i was in my teens, I thought the body was Fibre Glass, it looked to smooth and curvy to be metal, of that era.
@@MrDaiseymay Built back when real craftsman and engineers didn't use power tools or computers.
Good stuff
I agree that this must be the most beautiful landspeed car, of all time. I see it as art deco, yes. Somehow, it makes me think that if Delahaye tried for the record, it would look like THAT! .Gorgeous, impressive.
The Napier Lion--W configuration, DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder. Not much new under the sun. Pretty amazing when you realize how old that technology really is.
Two names that always gave me a thrill from the early LSR days-- Napier and Railton.
These videos are excellent. Thank you
I don't understand him moving to water speed records after thinking better of the risks in land speed records.
Another first class doc in your series.
I vote best channel name !
Top notch video, sir
How do Scarf and Goggles. I posted a comment on your Sunbeam video as a resident of Daytona, in the '80s. Fans of Britain's land speed efforts, way back then, should find my comment an interesting read. I'm sorry to say, the TriPlex story was never told and I just learned the fate of Segrave. I would simply like to offer my much belated condolences to the family of the men who lost their lives. There is certainly, a high price to pay for humanity's technological achievements.
A nice sentiment. Thanks for your comment!
I always saw the White Triplex Special as a symptom of how America saw speed: all you need is power. The basic was there, at least the "power" part but all the remainder was just off, the streamlining was apalling, the build was pretty much the same as a 2-ton truck and, unfortunatelly, who suffered was the poor devil behing the wheel (and the unlucky cameraman who stood recording the event).
Imagine what these men could have achieved with the technology and much superior materials we have today
Love your content 👌
Awesome 1929 Good Speed
I love the way 2 different videos say totally different things . If you weren't there and nobody alive is it's all speculation.
Now I have to say that this is not an historical area with which I am overly familiar; aircraft, and military ones at that, would be my usual interest. But I am old enough to remember the BBC news report on the death of Donald Campbell and his land speed record in the Proteus turbine powered Bluebird. But this was an enjoyable and educational watch, very much appreciated. It's a personal taste thing, of course, but I too think Golden Arrow is a contender for title 'most beautiful land speed car ever' though I'd be tossing a coin with the aforementioned Bluebird on the flip side.
Thanks for the upload. Subscribed.
I still think CN7 Bluebird is the best looking Land Speed Record Car, but the Golden Arrow is definitely a close second.
Telescopic sight for steering, at over 200mph...
Genius 😅
Great stories, of the Sunbeam 'Mystery' LSR vehicle, the 'Golden Arrow' Napier Lion powered car ant the 'Queen' Napier Lion powered boat... It is Ironic, that Henry Seagrave was killed on Friday the 13th in that boat, and his Last name, describing how he was finally killed... Henry SeaGrave won't soon be forgotten... The only person to hold the Land and Water speed records at the same time...
I think that it's a shame that so many of these land speed record holders never drove again. It would be nice if they could at least do some safe demonstration runs.