My fav moments: 5:15 DFM talk (Paperthin hot take) 24:03 Sliggy "WOAH WOAH WOAH CHILL A BIT" 36:49 PRX Power Rankings Glaze talk 38:04 RRQ talk (Chobra :D /pos. That's all you need to know) 43:07 They struggle to put RRQ in the Power Rankings 1:22:12 Power Rankings Segment also known as: Chobra vs The World Segment 1:26:46 Kurt has spoken 1:28:45 Kurt has spoken pt 1.5 1:29:36 Kurt has spoken pt 2 1:31:40 Sliggy tries to takes over (JustFlo mention later on :DDDD) 1:32:56 Pacific Happiness Meter 1:40:05 SHYO'S FIT 100/10 1:41:32 COACH POTATOES AD 1:43:26 Flame them Sliggy! 1:50:08 TMV's Stick rule idea 1:54:44 TMV vs Sliggy 2:00:39 TMV SUS Moment 2:03:45 As a theatre kid, I liked the joke 2:08:57 Shyo talks about cooking (the Michelin teams vs microwaved teams) 2:09:55 KEKW 2:13:08 Top 5 Mimi Comparisons ever 2:20:27 LMAO KURT 2:28:04 "Are they?" 2:33:20 Shyo's EMEA Power Ranking 2:36:15 Sliggy knows Apeks 2:39:57 1st Emea Power Rankings 2:47:47 Final Emea Power Rankings 2:52:58 Sideshow HUH moment 2:54:36 KC Sideshow bias 3:14:13 WWW KURT 3:21:54 Dryad talks rumours 3:28:00 Peak Talk 3:31:30 Mimi Peak chatting 3:36:42 Mimi is slowly crashing 3:43:54 Look at Sideshow's face 3:44:16 We are all in agreement 3:48:28 THEY ARE WINNING IT ALL BC OF- 3:51:33 Everything goes off the rails during this 4:06:03 1st Americas Power Ranking 4:11:00 WWW KURT 4:12:30 BASED DRYAD (Everything goess off the rails permanently) 4:14:55 Kurt has spoken!!! HE HATH SPOKEN!!! 4:18:21 Based Mimi 4:20:01 Hi Future Mimi! 4:23:55 Wyatt got discombobulated 4:26:45 Mimi asks Dryad why Lev is worse than Kru 4:29:45 CATTT 4:31:26 Americas Happiness Meter 4:32:28 Hoping this happens : ) 4:33:40 CHINAAAA 4:35:51 China Happiness Meter and Based Wyatt
Luke warm take: DRX is finished. Sure, they will be a solid pacific mid tier team again, about 4th-6th. Might even qual for an international. But they will never be international title contenders again (I think they are the 100T of pacific now)
I feel like they’d actually be pretty good if termi doesn’t keep dropping players everytime their roster actually starts looking good. They made top 5 at Champs and were the best Pacific team,what do they do? They drop 3 players lmfao
i dont know why, but i liked the pacific review way more than the emea review. normally i like tmv but idk i didnt really liked the combo of the 4 (for emea)
i feel like there is always someone out of the four that never know what they are talking about when it comes to EMEA xD mimi filled the quota this time
Maybe i'm just a team secret fanboy but putting such little faith on them with them dominating split 2 and just choking against talon is a crime. Primmie beat them, but ya'll are forgetting that Wildoreo and 2GE are also new in the roster, not making a roster change after that is actually the best move for them imo because they need their new players to settle in. Hope they destroy this year
@@mckinleyostvig7135He was good. He fit the playstyle of G2 and he looked like a dude that was easy to coach because he stuck to the system quite a lot. Ironically, I remember a good number of his aces as well. He wasn't flashy but he performed the way G2 had their system, but he wasn't as consistent
Bold prediction time because there was a lot of meteor talk during the pacific segment. Meteor is going to be the true faker of valorant and T1 once again snagged the goat at a good time build a dynasty around him.
From the argument i heard from paperthin, I think paperthin didn't watch the RRQ vs PRX in China event. How does kushy show his abilities in front of PRX, especially during the map split.
Where do you put these viewer questions? I really wanna ask why do all other regions have like good core or best aimers and maintain some form or level but in America's we have NRG 2024 with best players but even with great players it falls too low. Like what is this difference?
idk man this year i feel like they kind of deserve it 😭but i do appreciate dryad's take, if something isnt working it's better to rip the bandaid off and i think they'll def be better than they got rated
Where do you put these viewer questions? I really wanna ask why do all other regions have like good core or best aimers and maintain some form or level but in America's we have NRG 2024 with best players but even with great players it falls too low. Like what is this difference? Is there a team in 2025 that will have a similar fall?
they're chosen from the member discord server. if you join as a member on youtube (like subscribing on twitch) then i think you get access to the discord server!
Kurt please do check the stream next week there was a fucking slow mode bug even if I come after breaks to watch the stream I couldn’t even type something I don’t know whether it was happening with other viewers as well ?
They explained that pretty well booms best game ever was the ascension grand finals which was one of red forces weaker performances, red force have history of scrim bucks and absolutely pummelled their region and boom while good weren’t stand out in ascension until getting to the final always a contender it wasn’t a miracle run to 2nd but they were pretty far behind red force all year, also boom only really got here cause bleed were fraudsters that’s not on boom but it feels like there a good tier 2 team in a very stacked pacific region I mean like u said zeta at 11 sums that up I have them 10 personally but I can’t see them any higher then 9 maybe 8 if they get a perfect year so boom last year probably would’ve been alright but this year their the only true bottom feeder team
Guys please invite someone from Brazil to talk about our scene, you guys don't even know who played on off-season, and this makes any attempt of analysis just embarrassing to watch.
Mimi is never had a good prediction anyways..... And her lists and scores are always worst.... U guys prediction in other regions will be close but definitely not americas.... 🌸🌸🌸
@@yush005yeah definitely maybe they can’t go for the first masters they need some time spent in t1 since the entire roster is from t2 but they are good contenders to creates upset among pacific teams or i am just on hopium they could qualify for second masters
Derke might be the most overrated duelist oat, and that whole Vitality team are TILTERS. It will be a miracle if they do well this year, so overhyped. Fnatic are def top 2 with Crashies and Kaajak, NaVi is 100% the darkhorse team with Hiro clutching everything and Koala shitting on everyone with Yoru. Emea should be fun this year!
@@HaydenDom koala is definitely not better than derkey dinner historically, but this guy derke should not be in the top conversations of duelists oat. I think players like alfa, chronicle and leo had wayy more impact on that legendary '23 fnatic roster. Don't get me wrong, he's great, but I think he's overrated
@@nik_miki don’t disagree with u on leo and alfa but the reason fnatic was a super team was because every player on the team (including derke) was practically the best at their role in emea. not saying derke is the best duelist but surely he is at least top 10 maybe top 5 in the world
Dryad is braindead. In terms of power ranking KRU are 9/10 they are not better than LEV, 100T or MIBR. Only team they are better than are FURIA (maybe) Cloud9(maybe) 2G(deffo) LOUD(deffo). EG are better than KRU.
@ people overrated the ascension teams last year going into the season and it’s happening again GEN is not falling out of top 4 in pacific and Nongshim is not a top 3 team imo
@ g2 is the exception, at least for pacific people were high af on bleed Don’t try to pull the hindsight on me because I’m talking about feelings at the time
4 hour 40 minutes. My plat chat is back
Is that a record? 👀
My plat has been CHATTED.
Sliggy continuing his stealth takeover of PlatChat Corp. by advertising his own products mid episode - this man is pulling the strings
the fighting about the americas tier list was so funny this episode LMAO
i love this podcast and everyone on it is amazing. Thanks for 200 episodes here is to 200 more!
appreciate more of the Pacific coverage this past year
excited for more wrong takes
7:56 On a valorant korean podcast, they mentioned that both Akame and Jinboong are very fluent in Japanese.
Do you know any Japanese Valorant Podcast?
My fav moments:
5:15 DFM talk (Paperthin hot take)
24:03 Sliggy "WOAH WOAH WOAH CHILL A BIT"
36:49 PRX Power Rankings Glaze talk
38:04 RRQ talk (Chobra :D /pos. That's all you need to know)
43:07 They struggle to put RRQ in the Power Rankings
1:22:12 Power Rankings Segment also known as: Chobra vs The World Segment
1:26:46 Kurt has spoken
1:28:45 Kurt has spoken pt 1.5
1:29:36 Kurt has spoken pt 2
1:31:40 Sliggy tries to takes over (JustFlo mention later on :DDDD)
1:32:56 Pacific Happiness Meter
1:40:05 SHYO'S FIT 100/10
1:41:32 COACH POTATOES AD
1:43:26 Flame them Sliggy!
1:50:08 TMV's Stick rule idea
1:54:44 TMV vs Sliggy
2:00:39 TMV SUS Moment
2:03:45 As a theatre kid, I liked the joke
2:08:57 Shyo talks about cooking (the Michelin teams vs microwaved teams)
2:09:55 KEKW
2:13:08 Top 5 Mimi Comparisons ever
2:20:27 LMAO KURT
2:28:04 "Are they?"
2:33:20 Shyo's EMEA Power Ranking
2:36:15 Sliggy knows Apeks
2:39:57 1st Emea Power Rankings
2:47:47 Final Emea Power Rankings
2:52:58 Sideshow HUH moment
2:54:36 KC Sideshow bias
3:14:13 WWW KURT
3:21:54 Dryad talks rumours
3:28:00 Peak Talk
3:31:30 Mimi Peak chatting
3:36:42 Mimi is slowly crashing
3:43:54 Look at Sideshow's face
3:44:16 We are all in agreement
3:48:28 THEY ARE WINNING IT ALL BC OF-
3:51:33 Everything goes off the rails during this
4:06:03 1st Americas Power Ranking
4:11:00 WWW KURT
4:12:30 BASED DRYAD (Everything goess off the rails permanently)
4:14:55 Kurt has spoken!!! HE HATH SPOKEN!!!
4:18:21 Based Mimi
4:20:01 Hi Future Mimi!
4:23:55 Wyatt got discombobulated
4:26:45 Mimi asks Dryad why Lev is worse than Kru
4:29:45 CATTT
4:31:26 Americas Happiness Meter
4:32:28 Hoping this happens : )
4:33:40 CHINAAAA
4:35:51 China Happiness Meter and Based Wyatt
Thanks
2:02:38 "Does ANYONE really have hope for this roster??" and they all instantly go "yeah/I do/oh yes!" loool
30 minutes of fighting over americas just to end up with 100t up one, furia up one, everything else exactly the same as they started, is amazing
Luke warm take: DRX is finished. Sure, they will be a solid pacific mid tier team again, about 4th-6th. Might even qual for an international.
But they will never be international title contenders again
(I think they are the 100T of pacific now)
Nah Hyunmin is the truth this guy will be better than Buzz
Buzz and t1>
I feel like they’d actually be pretty good if termi doesn’t keep dropping players everytime their roster actually starts looking good. They made top 5 at Champs and were the best Pacific team,what do they do? They drop 3 players lmfao
dryad sliggy sideshow and wyatt i might just cry tears of joy
kurt’s americas idea with mibr in 3rd is indeed very based and true
Mimi getting cooked by Kurt on who MIBRs duelist in 2023 is a personal Top 10 Plat Chat moment for me xD
1:43:37 idk why but I love hearing sliggy say zèta
Dont mean to hate but who is this Shyowager? Was already wondering the first time he was on but they never introduced him
NongShim Noodle winning all three majors this year
By the end of these rankings Dryad needed her support cat Wyatt too. !
bro Shyo really does just have the wildest takes lmao. He’s entertaining for sure but can’t say I follow his thinking.
Beyond cooked with that list
Shyo's mouth is like a mystery box, you never know what you're gonna get. but it's always fun opening them.
Can someone pls tell me who he is? 😭
Enjoyed this episode so much 😄 everyone on plat chat is so great
4:16:13 "Listen: me personally..."
"Jesus Christ"
lmao
i dont know why, but i liked the pacific review way more than the emea review. normally i like tmv but idk i didnt really liked the combo of the 4 (for emea)
i feel like there is always someone out of the four that never know what they are talking about when it comes to EMEA xD mimi filled the quota this time
damn "icy worst duelist" i guess she was just ice cold today xD
My man did u hear show ???? He was trolling half the episode he said KC had the doom aura when vita exists lmaoooo
Maybe i'm just a team secret fanboy but putting such little faith on them with them dominating split 2 and just choking against talon is a crime. Primmie beat them, but ya'll are forgetting that Wildoreo and 2GE are also new in the roster, not making a roster change after that is actually the best move for them imo because they need their new players to settle in. Hope they destroy this year
Mimi really shitting on Icy
Bro was really good
Icy was not REALLY good.
@@mckinleyostvig7135He was good.
He fit the playstyle of G2 and he looked like a dude that was easy to coach because he stuck to the system quite a lot.
Ironically, I remember a good number of his aces as well.
He wasn't flashy but he performed the way G2 had their system, but he wasn't as consistent
nah actually he was really good for good valorant enjoyers. didn’t play for stats, didn’t feed, just a solid duelist
She does not have good takes bruh
@@mckinleyostvig7135he is good but definitely a slow start type of duelist but when it comes to run it down he could be the raid boss
Kurt is sooo based for that America ranking
“Kru always makes champions” and the sun always revolved around the earth until it didn’t
4:14:05 Dan putting Kru fourth is some Qanon shit - Mimi
LMAOOOO
been watching this episode all day
You guys are sleeping on Lebron apecks fifth man. He’s one of the top madden players in the world so I’m sure he could make the switch
Kru is so much better than lev holy shit
Kru sucks
@@Miles_Tones why
This made my day before I even clicked on the video, damn near 5 hour vid will get me though the day
After this episode
Shyo is officialy my favorite member
HOLY FUCK BOYS WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK 🎉❤
All this yapping about paperex and T1 just for GenG to run apac again
starting 2025 with an absolute banger
2:24:14 no idea if they swap it around but giantx bring so high seems wild
4.5 hours is crazy
14 hour shift in the podcast factory for kurt
03:14:13 THANK YOU KURT
Bold prediction time because there was a lot of meteor talk during the pacific segment. Meteor is going to be the true faker of valorant and T1 once again snagged the goat at a good time build a dynasty around him.
Holy Christ the pacific tier list is horrendous
Greatest episode ever
From the argument i heard from paperthin, I think paperthin didn't watch the RRQ vs PRX in China event. How does kushy show his abilities in front of PRX, especially during the map split.
4:02 paperthin knows ball
undercover agents hired by certain vct teams (that shall remain nameless) have infiltrated the plat chat power rankings 😭🙏
100t eight is wild
putting dfm in 8th is crazy work
my consistently wrong goats
30 second segment on TH? glaze them for a good 5 minutes please. Main reason i watched this man
Tuff
Everyone knows where TH stands. This episode is 4 and a half hours long. Keeping TH short and sweet was for the best
30 seconds just enough for a team who will be first even if you discuss about fnatic and vitality
saying it again yall overrate talon so much its insane.
Zellsis is not getting replaced!
my EMEA 1-5 ranking is the exact same, 6 is navi, 7-8 is liquid and mates (any order) 9-12 is irrelevant imo
this is for kick off
Play chat is back baby!!!!!
We giving wyatt love for the legoat glaze
Where do you put these viewer questions?
I really wanna ask why do all other regions have like good core or best aimers and maintain some form or level but in America's we have NRG 2024 with best players but even with great players it falls too low. Like what is this difference?
i love how c9 get insanely underrated each year just to end up as a top 5 team.
idk man this year i feel like they kind of deserve it 😭but i do appreciate dryad's take, if something isnt working it's better to rip the bandaid off and i think they'll def be better than they got rated
@@izzypedal6371 yeah its just a funny pattern. they almost always over perform in relation to their given expectations.
sleeeeeeping on EG. They're making Bangkok
dryad is so pretty 🥺
Where do you put these viewer questions?
I really wanna ask why do all other regions have like good core or best aimers and maintain some form or level but in America's we have NRG 2024 with best players but even with great players it falls too low. Like what is this difference? Is there a team in 2025 that will have a similar fall?
they're chosen from the member discord server. if you join as a member on youtube (like subscribing on twitch) then i think you get access to the discord server!
Is LEV allowed?
Kurt please do check the stream next week there was a fucking slow mode bug even if I come after breaks to watch the stream I couldn’t even type something I don’t know whether it was happening with other viewers as well ?
idk man, nongshim 6 is a little too high, rrq dfm and maybe ts and ge is better than them
Is Shyowager on the FNC payroll or something? There's no way that FNC is top 2 this year. They will be 4th at best calling it now.
alright what is up with them rating 100t so low and mibr so high lmao
Shayo was madman putting Liquid into 4 😂
Team secret is Gatekeeper and they must be in Sixth Position...Its very average and right not gonna lie.
Shyo coming into an EMEA power ranking segment with "idek who FUT is" makes me question why you bring him on the segment at all
Is he a new castor? Only ever seen or heard of him from plat chat.
I dont understand NS being so high but BOOM being at the bottom
+ ZETA at 11???? Are they just trolling or what
They explained that pretty well booms best game ever was the ascension grand finals which was one of red forces weaker performances, red force have history of scrim bucks and absolutely pummelled their region and boom while good weren’t stand out in ascension until getting to the final always a contender it wasn’t a miracle run to 2nd but they were pretty far behind red force all year, also boom only really got here cause bleed were fraudsters that’s not on boom but it feels like there a good tier 2 team in a very stacked pacific region I mean like u said zeta at 11 sums that up I have them 10 personally but I can’t see them any higher then 9 maybe 8 if they get a perfect year so boom last year probably would’ve been alright but this year their the only true bottom feeder team
Cobra seems really charming and smart, but he is somehow constantly wrong
paperthin staring into my soul
G2's gonna make it far and then lost to leviatan in the end
dfm should be higher than rrq and ts
Why does everyone know Dragons Den, I thought that it was only a Canada thing.
its champs paris finale. KC Vs NRG.... saadhak vs FNS
LeGREATEST OF ALL TIME👑👑
who let shyowager cook...
man i love shyowager dude is hilarious
I feel Dryad is always being interrupted on this show
Fuck ive missed it live again. Oh well
Guys please invite someone from Brazil to talk about our scene, you guys don't even know who played on off-season, and this makes any attempt of analysis just embarrassing to watch.
2:17:52
avengers ahh platchat episode
You guys cursed G2 and I hate you for it
Where's Chinese region??????
Gx over kc holyy shiiit
Live chat replay por favor
It usually appears an hour or two after the stream ends!
EDIT: Or two minutes
Mimi is never had a good prediction anyways..... And her lists and scores are always worst.... U guys prediction in other regions will be close but definitely not americas.... 🌸🌸🌸
we wull smile when GE goes to bangkok
They won't
Its impossible 2 slots not even their miracle run will make them top2 in pac this year
If GE goes to Bangkok, I will eat a pizza bro
durka durka
@@yush005yeah definitely maybe they can’t go for the first masters they need some time spent in t1 since the entire roster is from t2 but they are good contenders to creates upset among pacific teams or i am just on hopium they could qualify for second masters
Derke might be the most overrated duelist oat, and that whole Vitality team are TILTERS. It will be a miracle if they do well this year, so overhyped. Fnatic are def top 2 with Crashies and Kaajak, NaVi is 100% the darkhorse team with Hiro clutching everything and Koala shitting on everyone with Yoru. Emea should be fun this year!
derke overrated but koala gonna shit on everyone?? what is bro yip yappin about 😵
how is derke overrated if hes won 2 international tournaments in vct 23 and stage 1 and 2 of vct 24 explain please???
@@HaydenDom koala is definitely not better than derkey dinner historically, but this guy derke should not be in the top conversations of duelists oat. I think players like alfa, chronicle and leo had wayy more impact on that legendary '23 fnatic roster. Don't get me wrong, he's great, but I think he's overrated
Better than regular season merchant Statspas
@@nik_miki don’t disagree with u on leo and alfa but the reason fnatic was a super team was because every player on the team (including derke) was practically the best at their role in emea. not saying derke is the best duelist but surely he is at least top 10 maybe top 5 in the world
Mimi try not to interrupt people challenge: impossible
Can we please stop with the Chobra RRQ glazing and Dryad Kru favouritism. It is to much and bad for the show
preach 🙏 feels different than when tmv does it jokingly about wolves, chobra and dryad are like dead serious
If you check his pickems he just gatekeeping RRQ in this podcast but he trust Korean teams more than RRQ
100T are overrated. Even current LOUD would be a better team in the long run than current 100T.
Dryad is braindead. In terms of power ranking KRU are 9/10 they are not better than LEV, 100T or MIBR. Only team they are better than are FURIA (maybe) Cloud9(maybe) 2G(deffo) LOUD(deffo). EG are better than KRU.
no
Gen.G is gonna be so trash man.
Yoman a bit worse than Lakia and Foxy9 is 4 tiers below Meteor
Yoman is on level or even slightly better than lakia
I’d say Foxy9 is 2 tiers below Meteor not 4
I feel ya. At this point lowkey i feel like Redforce might be better than them
@ people overrated the ascension teams last year going into the season and it’s happening again
GEN is not falling out of top 4 in pacific and Nongshim is not a top 3 team imo
@@AUG_Glowpeople didn’t overrate ascension teams, if anything g2 was underrated
@ g2 is the exception, at least for pacific people were high af on bleed
Don’t try to pull the hindsight on me because I’m talking about feelings at the time
Dryad is brain dead