Hey Wallah, there is one thing that I think people... forgot about with prismatic titan. An Insermountable Skullfort is the best armor piece. Pairing it with thunderclap and diamond lance allows for some absolutely absurd chains where you just freeze and tclap enemies without a chance for them to shoot you a single time. Pair it with unbreakable for some hard pushing at the start or cryostesia to help with the chain freezing. It's just freeze, charge a tcap, repeat.
They really haven't learned anything you can make a report a cheater request in the help center and put your own account in there and some random shit and get banned for it.
Warlocks getting nerfed into oblivion in PVP simply by the other two classes being buffed so much. We've got shooting from air. Wow. That's really going to get me flawless until everyone realizes it in round 1.
Dawn lock has been the best class in the game since solar 3.0 it is still the best class in the game today prismatic hunter would still lose to dawnlock at the beginning of final shape stop coping and get better
Locks also have devour electro slide broodweaver blink healing and empowering rifts some of the best neutral game in pvp on voidwalker and some of the best shutdown play in the game with shadebinder
Bungie: Alright so we’re gonna nerf the one shot shiver strike combo Playerbase: Oh, sweet! Bungie: To counteract that, we’re gonna giga buff it, buff titan melee in general, why? Because why not Have we not LEARNT BUNGIE
@@ToyotaCorolla-en2mv it kinda is tho. Knockout used to be resilience gated, you could prevent their health regen or making a diamond lance on cleanup if you were 6 resil and above. Now you can’t. More melee damage also just means an easier cleanup with certain weapons and body shots and whatnot. Dumb change that didn’t need to happen
@@Pandemoniyum it's not gonna be that big a deal dawg. Just cause people on Twitter and RUclipsrs complain, that doesn't mean its gonna be an issue for the majority of players.
@@ToyotaCorolla-en2mv I mean, you’ll notice yourself getting frozen, cleaned up, and 3 pieced a lot more by the combo I promise you lol. This is coming from the perspective of an avid pvp player tho so, I guess it’s fair to say most probably won’t notice it
@@Pandemoniyum I a lot of things will happen to you more often the more often you play PvP. You will just notice what's more popular. But keep in mind, just cause it's popular that doesn't mean it's OP or an issue. We have enough of Bungie nerfing stuff based on usage rates because the community has show them that's what we want, let's not further encourage that when they're finally giving Titans some much needed buffs.
When Titans get more unpowered melee damage , make hunters have a faster melee, and warlocks have a longer range, so at least they're all different in a unique way.
@@WillowPillowsthe whole point of the change is to make titans different and lean into the punching identity. It does sound like a cool idea and I could see it working but titans would probably need more than just 5% damage buff
They either need to do this or not touch unpowered melee at all. I would rather 3 melee hits to kill across the board anyway, then people can't just rush you down. In fact, if melee was still 3 hits to kill, all the people that complain about shotguns being overused would have some relief, because it'd be less consistent to go for shotgun melee cleanup unless you actually hit enough pellets.
Hey guardians, as you can tell from the very meaningful changes we made to prismatic hunter that totally didn't just screw over the other subclasses; at some point it seems we actually fired the balancing team and forgot we did it. Anyways, if you take a look at the recent patch notes titled "fuck it we ball" the unpaid intern has decided give titans more movement they shouldn't have and more one shot melees they didn't need. Have fun in the crucible guardians :)
I mean they want Titans to be a melee oriented class, so it makes sense that their melees are better than those of other classes.They cant do fancy pants stuff like the others, so let em punch.
Wallah… can I get a a dim loadout for your Titan? I’m just coming back to D2 after a big break and I’m trying to figure out what armor mods are important for PvP and finding the info has been difficult
Hunter needed the nerfs and titan should have been buffed more. 1% use in a day 1 raid says all that needed to be heard. If you are a pvp enjoyer then you should be even more happy. No more absurd shiver strike oneshots is definitely a healthy change.
Its funny titans have always been strong in PvP but in PvE its meh outside of the strong melee build that works on some bosses. None of the buffs fix PvE titan. Still the class with no identity. Maybe they should lean into the machine gunner aspect. Make actium an S tier exotic and give titans an interaction with all machine guns just by default. Like faster reload or even more damage they should probably add more stability as well since titans physically should be the strongest class and should have more stability with an lmg but idk.
Is Tarrabah good again? I just started playing again And question idk if they were nerfed or not, but wouldn’t you be able to bypass the .5 second melee cooldown with Sythos?
Tarrabah is elite in rumble and 3v3. It will always be phenomenal if they don't change how it works. 2 gunfight basically gives you heavy for 7 seconds
Wallah, my love, I would be awesome to know what you would with the general sandbox for PvP, the best opinions for this is from someone who actually main PvP
The melee changes are even more ridiculous than you're expecting. Behemoth Titan will only need to move normally for maybe 6 seconds at a time now because with 100 Strength the cooldown on a wiffed Shiver Strike is going to be roughly 10.1 seconds long. So with Cryoskating and Shiver Strikes mixed together a Titan can rocket themselves throughout the map at mach 12 with full directional control. What's more is because a Cryoskate + Shiver Strike movement combo lasts for about 4-5 seconds the user can go into another Cryoskate immediately upon landing back on the ground with only the Shiver Strike cooldown stopping them from keeping the chain going. Bungie said they didn't want to fully revert Cryoclasm's original nerfs for fear of powercreeping movement, but then they turned around and gave Titans an even faster way to move around the map.
I like the melee return on miss to use it as a movement option. The rest I hate. I still have ptsd from the years between witchqueen and final shape...
Why is Bungie fucking up things like this all the time??? Titans are about to be broken amd everywhere in pvp. Like we did not see that already for like 2 years with arc titan!!!! Ffs why they cannot just try to fix what is broken and balance pvp??? I thought they were going for a weapon based pvp! Never had more ability spam
@@yazcona13 Titans are bots nobody good at the game would play that brain dead class. Just annoying Bungie have to make them better again cause they all got butthurt crying about prism hunter
It always just spawn trapping game play from almost every streamer wish o had the time to play to get to know whete the spawns are like when i was a teenager on call of duty back in the day
@@ianmills6260 i was hoping with the 5 percent buff to melee’s for titan that maybe there would be a new one shot melee build or at least a exotic build beyond peregrine greaves and synthoceps for one shots.
@kiritoequalspotato493 peregrine one shots everything already. Synthos allow most melees to one tap. I was talking about built in, ie no exotics/fragments
Bungie Who? That old company that had that old gem of a game Destiny 2 that after gettin 3b$ got short sighted, took ALL the bad desisions and tanked their own entire Ip? Dont even bother Wallah let em sink in peace.
People who think this is going to be free like prismatic hunter are in for a surprise. The melee cooldown is long. To find success with the class, you have to ape.
Wow titans have 1 combine? While hunters can throw a smoke, grenade, melee, dodge while getting another free smoke back, and finally smoke again? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Literally clowns 🤡 Crazy bungie had to get rid of 1 combine titans had. Actual Re’s
titan just needs to get nerfed into the ground. they've been going rampant for 6-7 maybe 8 seasons now yet when hunters or warlocks have one broken thing they immediately get disabled or nerfed the next day/week
Ill say it right now and ill say it again hunter's are going to get nerfed again in a couple of months watch 👀 lol good thing i made a warlock just incase and a titan too
Who cares they keep nerfing the crutch builds, the healthy builds are fine like Solar/Arc/Stasis. All these nerfs are buffing my solar hunter indirectly 😂.
@@vainthedestroyer The more they nerf abilities the better for me tbh. Checkmate and trasmat took me from 1.7 to 2.1 over night so bring the nerfs lmao. My kd has already went down from like 2.2 to 2.0 ever since they brought back infinite special doesn't matter how much better i am a fusion will kill you regardless. I even upped my sens to 15 to be able to 180 slide to avoid them but it doesn't matter.
What kinda my little pony drip is that wallah 😂
Honestly it's fire 🔥.
@@R0TEKu would glaze wouldn’t you! Nasty lil girl smh
@@R0TEK more like set it on fire
It's a jade rabit drip...
My Little Wally
Chasing Gary down with Thundercrash is peak bro rivalry.
the shiver strike buff is great. that melee ALWAYS suffered before diamond lances existed. now you can actually use it for movement now
The way Gary came flying back after being sent flying off the cliff was hilarious 😂
Hey Wallah, there is one thing that I think people... forgot about with prismatic titan.
An Insermountable Skullfort is the best armor piece. Pairing it with thunderclap and diamond lance allows for some absolutely absurd chains where you just freeze and tclap enemies without a chance for them to shoot you a single time. Pair it with unbreakable for some hard pushing at the start or cryostesia to help with the chain freezing.
It's just freeze, charge a tcap, repeat.
This is gonna be fun :3
:3
I’d rather get wombo combo’d by prismatic hunter 100% of the time then get rubberbanded by titans :3
No is not titan and their barricades and bs r awful to play against when too many in a team
They really haven't learned anything you can make a report a cheater request in the help center and put your own account in there and some random shit and get banned for it.
4:42 NAH THATS CRAZY
Warlocks getting nerfed into oblivion in PVP simply by the other two classes being buffed so much. We've got shooting from air. Wow. That's really going to get me flawless until everyone realizes it in round 1.
Dawn lock has been the best class in the game since solar 3.0 it is still the best class in the game today prismatic hunter would still lose to dawnlock at the beginning of final shape stop coping and get better
Locks also have devour electro slide broodweaver blink healing and empowering rifts some of the best neutral game in pvp on voidwalker and some of the best shutdown play in the game with shadebinder
If you can’t win on a warlock you aren’t very good at PvP end of story
@@jacobmathews-xo4ov ok who let the d bag in
@@jacobmathews-xo4ovlmao let him knowwwww.
It ain’t the class broski, it’s a SKILL ISSUE
Bungie: Alright so we’re gonna nerf the one shot shiver strike combo
Playerbase: Oh, sweet!
Bungie: To counteract that, we’re gonna giga buff it, buff titan melee in general, why? Because why not
Have we not LEARNT BUNGIE
A 5% buff to base melee is not huge
@@ToyotaCorolla-en2mv it kinda is tho. Knockout used to be resilience gated, you could prevent their health regen or making a diamond lance on cleanup if you were 6 resil and above. Now you can’t. More melee damage also just means an easier cleanup with certain weapons and body shots and whatnot. Dumb change that didn’t need to happen
@@Pandemoniyum it's not gonna be that big a deal dawg. Just cause people on Twitter and RUclipsrs complain, that doesn't mean its gonna be an issue for the majority of players.
@@ToyotaCorolla-en2mv I mean, you’ll notice yourself getting frozen, cleaned up, and 3 pieced a lot more by the combo I promise you lol. This is coming from the perspective of an avid pvp player tho so, I guess it’s fair to say most probably won’t notice it
@@Pandemoniyum I a lot of things will happen to you more often the more often you play PvP. You will just notice what's more popular. But keep in mind, just cause it's popular that doesn't mean it's OP or an issue. We have enough of Bungie nerfing stuff based on usage rates because the community has show them that's what we want, let's not further encourage that when they're finally giving Titans some much needed buffs.
4:42 you naaaaasty 😂😂😂😂
At 4:54 too. Wallah freaky as hell 😂
Gary flying back after being sent flying off the cliff had me gasping for air 😂
Nicho should be proud😂
Bonus melee damage for titans but no additional movement speed for hunters
6:29 "I'm getting FLINCHEDDDD"
Shiver strike being good tech in pve now is actually insane.
Going to be eagerly awaiting how good this will be
When Titans get more unpowered melee damage , make hunters have a faster melee, and warlocks have a longer range, so at least they're all different in a unique way.
only person in these comments with a good idea instead of being toxic
@@WillowPillowsthe whole point of the change is to make titans different and lean into the punching identity. It does sound like a cool idea and I could see it working but titans would probably need more than just 5% damage buff
They either need to do this or not touch unpowered melee at all. I would rather 3 melee hits to kill across the board anyway, then people can't just rush you down. In fact, if melee was still 3 hits to kill, all the people that complain about shotguns being overused would have some relief, because it'd be less consistent to go for shotgun melee cleanup unless you actually hit enough pellets.
We used to have this, it was bad.
Funfact, warlocks originally already had that. It was removed in witch queen's year. It had a longer range but lower recovery time.
Watching these two boys playing is a lot of fun. 😂😂 Get him Gary!! #TeamGary
bungie on the galaxy gas
😂
those giggles at 7:08 LOL
@6:50 killed me 😂 ( PLEASE use that clip of wallah saying can’t snipe everytime he’s got a sniper on )
Peppers got that stormtrooper aim
9:20 Good Job Leg lmfao
glad to see titans aint just spam consecration now
Peppers seems to just be happy to be there
Broken? Yes however, Titan is the punchy class so...
Then they should tie movement speed to mobility so hunters are faster...
revert stompees nerf fr
@@mezzykrazy fr fr
@@mezzykrazydidn’t they? lol. Like a long time ago
@@WhosDeity No, not fully. Lateral movement was nerfed.
Editor I love you keep killing it man
Hey guardians, as you can tell from the very meaningful changes we made to prismatic hunter that totally didn't just screw over the other subclasses; at some point it seems we actually fired the balancing team and forgot we did it. Anyways, if you take a look at the recent patch notes titled "fuck it we ball" the unpaid intern has decided give titans more movement they shouldn't have and more one shot melees they didn't need. Have fun in the crucible guardians :)
What oneshot melee? Didn't they just remove it...
What oneshot melee? Didn't they just remove it...
One melee got a tweak (the worst melee in the game btw), and knockout now gives back its original health (was nerfed btw)…and now they’re broken?
0:22 YOOOO I got used in the clip to describe shiver strike Lets gooooo
Gary compliments your channel pretty good together, no lie 😂
I thought you weren't supposed to be able to melee right after shiver strike...
7:08 mini mouse ahhh laugh 😭
I mean they want Titans to be a melee oriented class, so it makes sense that their melees are better than those of other classes.They cant do fancy pants stuff like the others, so let em punch.
"...Can't snipe." 😂😂😂
Wallah… can I get a a dim loadout for your Titan? I’m just coming back to D2 after a big break and I’m trying to figure out what armor mods are important for PvP and finding the info has been difficult
I haven’t touched my titan since one hit shoulder charges
Great, we've only had a titan meta for 8 seasons before this last hunter meta, can't wait to go right back to it 😐
Nerf hunter, buff titan...where have we seen this before????
Hunter needed the nerfs and titan should have been buffed more. 1% use in a day 1 raid says all that needed to be heard. If you are a pvp enjoyer then you should be even more happy. No more absurd shiver strike oneshots is definitely a healthy change.
i reall liked the video where you went back and forth from Wallah's to Gary"s screen. Otherwise Gary just looks like a total Jim😅
It’s literally gonna be for movement. The minute someone hits you, you’ll lose it. I prefer that then getting double gripped.
Artificial sandbox...
If you weren't already using shiver strike as a dodge, welcome to the party.
Time to put that ophidians syntho stoicism to work
Wallah congrats on the huge W in the tourney, i had no doubt the whole tourney, I knew you were too good for those Jim’s
Its funny titans have always been strong in PvP but in PvE its meh outside of the strong melee build that works on some bosses. None of the buffs fix PvE titan. Still the class with no identity. Maybe they should lean into the machine gunner aspect. Make actium an S tier exotic and give titans an interaction with all machine guns just by default. Like faster reload or even more damage they should probably add more stability as well since titans physically should be the strongest class and should have more stability with an lmg but idk.
Bungie rn: we have not learned anything and have no idea what you’re talking about?
Us: 👺
Why do titans and warlocks have more movement options than hunters now 😭
“I was lagging”
6:15 forward was some looney tunes shit xd
LMAO this is one of the funniest videos on the channel🤣🤣🤣
Titan mains finally eating. Eat crow hunters 🤣
Is Tarrabah good again? I just started playing again
And question idk if they were nerfed or not, but wouldn’t you be able to bypass the .5 second melee cooldown with Sythos?
Tarrabah is elite in rumble and 3v3. It will always be phenomenal if they don't change how it works. 2 gunfight basically gives you heavy for 7 seconds
hating on gary starts at 0:01
Wallah, my love, I would be awesome to know what you would with the general sandbox for PvP, the best opinions for this is from someone who actually main PvP
The melee changes are even more ridiculous than you're expecting. Behemoth Titan will only need to move normally for maybe 6 seconds at a time now because with 100 Strength the cooldown on a wiffed Shiver Strike is going to be roughly 10.1 seconds long. So with Cryoskating and Shiver Strikes mixed together a Titan can rocket themselves throughout the map at mach 12 with full directional control. What's more is because a Cryoskate + Shiver Strike movement combo lasts for about 4-5 seconds the user can go into another Cryoskate immediately upon landing back on the ground with only the Shiver Strike cooldown stopping them from keeping the chain going.
Bungie said they didn't want to fully revert Cryoclasm's original nerfs for fear of powercreeping movement, but then they turned around and gave Titans an even faster way to move around the map.
So titans and warlocks get all this but they all complain when a hunter can get 1 kill with 2 abilities
I like the melee return on miss to use it as a movement option.
The rest I hate.
I still have ptsd from the years between witchqueen and final shape...
Spam your space magic guardians, who needs a gun anymore...
Peppers is my favorite new character
title: have we learned nothing??
the og vets who saw this blight years in advance: WHAT HAVE WE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YA?? AND YALL SHAME US ??
you should try the finals again. season 4 slaps
Wallah are you aware that if you throw a lance and then immediately press the slam button you can do both?
Wallah: "You just have to roll with it and not get triggered"
Gary: "Wow you died with Tarrabah perk"
Wallah: "YEAH CAUSE I WAS LAGGING DUMB ASS 🤬"
Actual pvp changes let's go
Those stats are criminal. Call the stat police.
Forgive my ignorance, I haven't played in awhile, but what is that SMG you are using in Rumble?
Tarrabah
It's Tarrabah
I’m punching everything!!
What were you bouta say?!? 4:40
Why is Bungie fucking up things like this all the time??? Titans are about to be broken amd everywhere in pvp. Like we did not see that already for like 2 years with arc titan!!!! Ffs why they cannot just try to fix what is broken and balance pvp??? I thought they were going for a weapon based pvp! Never had more ability spam
Arc titan was not that bad lol
@@yazcona13 you fr 💀
@@yazcona13 please......🙈
@@xyry4148 bruh ya'll just suck i guess.
@@yazcona13 Titans are bots nobody good at the game would play that brain dead class. Just annoying Bungie have to make them better again cause they all got butthurt crying about prism hunter
so joke lol the "i can't snipe" clips were comedy gold o7
It always just spawn trapping game play from almost every streamer wish o had the time to play to get to know whete the spawns are like when i was a teenager on call of duty back in the day
Will there be a melee strong enough to one shot a player with knockout active? Ether the normal arc class melee’s or a prismatic melee?
Thunderclap is the only built in one shot melee on titan. Warlock has incinerator snap ignition, and hunter has the wind up knifes
@@ianmills6260 i was hoping with the 5 percent buff to melee’s for titan that maybe there would be a new one shot melee build or at least a exotic build beyond peregrine greaves and synthoceps for one shots.
@kiritoequalspotato493 peregrine one shots everything already. Synthos allow most melees to one tap. I was talking about built in, ie no exotics/fragments
@kiritoequalspotato493 on second though, maybe you will be able to one shot with knockout and spark of feedback now
what do you think of tarrabuh mrwallah
Is that smg still good?
Wallah video feat. the One Hit Combo*
*Features two hits
Bungie Who? That old company that had that old gem of a game Destiny 2 that after gettin 3b$ got short sighted, took ALL the bad desisions and tanked their own entire Ip? Dont even bother Wallah let em sink in peace.
cry
@@reikia i love keyboard warriors, 9 outta 10 times face to face they soft as butter
@@kostistsiutras4373 alright
@@reikiaYou only have two comments on this channel, bot detected
@@IronTarkus876 i rarely comment or reply on any channel. that means nothing
Shiver strikes should have just had a nerf and nothing else, the build is insanely broken build on prismatic
People who think this is going to be free like prismatic hunter are in for a surprise. The melee cooldown is long. To find success with the class, you have to ape.
Tarrabah gameplay is always cool to watch. 👍
4:43 🤨
Does tarrabah have a catalyst
When did bungo say theyre nerfing the one shot shiver strike? I mean im all for it i just dont remember seeing it heh
He literally showed it in the vid. "Can't melee for .5 seconds after using shiver strike."
@@googleplaynow9608 yehhhh I had read the twab and thought that was talking about the fella that was getting hit 😅 Realized my mistake later heh
Bro its 6:30am wtf
Bungie doesn't care about pvp balancing
5:38 one body one two >:)
Is this about PVP? I hear that no-one is playing that these days. They’ve all flounced out.
The Titan drip is wetttttttt
Now to go smash some Prismatic Hunters. And I mean SMASH !!
Wtf is wrong with them at bungie who tf thought BUFFING KNOCKOUT was sensible at all
Because arc titans suck that’s why
Because most Titan exotics have been buffed to nothing by Hunter main crying constantly. About time something Titan got buffed
@@REAPERICHIMARU hahaha
Gary can blow the any ogre in the game
What is the auto rifle or smg if any of yall could lmk lol?
Can't snipe. Can't snipe. Can't snipe. Can't snipe 😂😂
Wow titans have 1 combine? While hunters can throw a smoke, grenade, melee, dodge while getting another free smoke back, and finally smoke again? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Literally clowns 🤡 Crazy bungie had to get rid of 1 combine titans had. Actual Re’s
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\/ if the "cant snipe" snippit should be in all the vids from now on
ik you don’t watch anime by the you saying meliodas like that😂😂😂😂
Lol, great video
Once again Hunters are gonna be the least mobile class in the game
Lmao no
time to sit in the back with knucklehead and a 340
@@furry_7787yep
Wallah is such a shhi.. talker HAHAHAHA The live games are so fun
Titan getting buff once again?! Daamn.. i already quit destiny cuz game is boring and most unbalanced between hunter/warlock n titan
titan just needs to get nerfed into the ground. they've been going rampant for 6-7 maybe 8 seasons now yet when hunters or warlocks have one broken thing they immediately get disabled or nerfed the next day/week
Lmfaooo what?????😭😭😭😭😭
@@jacolbyprice260braindead dress/cloak main bro
@@willyoungberg823 gotta be fam this can’t be made sense of no matter how you spin it lmfaoo
LOL bungie is gonna regret this
Ah yes more ability spam incoming.. so glad stopped playing and have zero interest in the new season or whatever they’re calling it now
Yet watching RUclips videos of the game you "quit". Ok. 😉
Ill say it right now and ill say it again hunter's are going to get nerfed again in a couple of months watch 👀 lol good thing i made a warlock just incase and a titan too
Who cares they keep nerfing the crutch builds, the healthy builds are fine like Solar/Arc/Stasis.
All these nerfs are buffing my solar hunter indirectly 😂.
@@fotis3v480 is it ? We shall see 😂
@@vainthedestroyer The more they nerf abilities the better for me tbh.
Checkmate and trasmat took me from 1.7 to 2.1 over night so bring the nerfs lmao.
My kd has already went down from like 2.2 to 2.0 ever since they brought back infinite special doesn't matter how much better i am a fusion will kill you regardless.
I even upped my sens to 15 to be able to 180 slide to avoid them but it doesn't matter.