It’s a shame I have to mention this but this video is responding to the comments you see on the screen, not talking to you directly, so if it seems condescending that’s because I feel I am defending Thai people from ignorant comments. The message is that we are accountable for our experience and there is nothing uniquely Thai when it comes to being treated as an ATM. I will also add, Thai people have helped me in this country again and again, had a broken motorbike? they took me to the garage without any payment. They helped with our build and asked for nothing. I have lost wallets that have been returned and I have never been directly asked for money here. Thai people are awesome. Don’t forget to share your stories, advice, agreements and outrage.. 🍄 MUSHROOMS: Get Discounted Fruiting Body Mushroom Supplements Here On Shopee: shopee.co.th/fruitingbodymushrooms Use code: FRUI10LIR For A 10% Discount Or here On Lazada: tiny.cc/fruitingbodynew 🐝 HONEY, CEREMONIAL CACAO & SUPERFOOD POWDERS: www.lazada.co.th/shop/shamans-shed/ 🌐 Get SURFSHARK VPN at surfshark.deals/NAKEDGURU Enter promo code NAKED GURU for an exclusive Surfshark discount and 4 extra months for free!
Dear Ryan, I completely agree with your perspective on the stigma of being perceived as a "walking ATM." Having lived in Thailand for over two decades and worked as an international airline pilot, I am acutely aware of the reasons behind this characterization. However, it ultimately comes down to personal discretion. No one is forcing individuals to display their wealth. From my own experiences, I have noticed that many expatriates and tourists tend to exhibit their affluence openly, only to be surprised when they are labeled as ATMs. Financial matters have always been viewed as a shared family responsibility throughout my twenty-year marriage to my Thai spouse. I have been fortunate enough not to bear the sole responsibility of supporting my spouse's family. Instead, it has been a collective effort among siblings to ensure the well-being of our parents. Any challenges that may arise are addressed collectively, underscoring the importance of family unity. I firmly believe that this collaborative approach strengthens familial ties and cultivates a sense of mutual obligation. Regarding the young women from Issan working in bars, I agree with your assessment that many foreigners claim they are coerced into the sex industry by their families. As you rightly pointed out, a significant number, in my opinion, most, deceive their families. Many foreigners who visit Thailand for leisure are often unfamiliar with the nuances of Thai culture. Understanding and respecting their culture requires dedication and patience. Your channel brings me great joy as I work diligently in Saudi Arabia, eagerly counting down the days until I can return home to Bangkok. With 19 months left until my retirement, I am constructing my home in Khao Kho. I highly recommend you visit Khao Kho, a stunning destination. Best wishes to you and your family. Kevin
What a wonderful "session" with you today! I really appreciate your wisdom and shared experience. Also, I should mention I enjoy just listening to your voice....relaxing, unique and very pleasant. Now here's a wee story from me: Almost 20 years ago my Taiwanese partner and I made a trip to Thailand from Australia. One day we had lunch in a restaurant in Siam Square. As the food arrived, we set our camera on an empty seat beside us. After enjoying our lunch, we left the restaurant and made our way past the shops, across an overpass and down to the other side of the busy main street where we were going to take a bus to our next stop for the day. All of a sudden, the waiter from the restaurant appeared in front of us, all out of breath, and handed us our camera. He had come all that way to find us and give it back....wouldn't take a thing for it, and said bye with a wai. To this day that incident brings tears to my eyes.
Those girls that treat you like an ATM exist in Western countries as well. in every country this happens when you frequent those types of establishments and hang out in bars and tourist area. Well said Guru!
"You're a walking ATM if you choose to be". Correct. Good info. I'm a rare bird - a solo female farang who worked & lived in Thailand (Jomtien) for 3 years, owned a condo & visited regularly until late 2019. You're a guest in Thailand so you make sure you very quickly learn about how to conduct yourself & recognise that West & East have different mindsets. Learn some language, show respect & engage with local life in a positive way. Similarly to Ryan, I've had help from Thai people - returning a mislaid mobile phone, purse being returned - & not asked for anything back.
Correct. If you allow it, it will happen. Just say no. If she leaves, then you know the truth. Just say no. People are animals, like a cat, if you put out milk, it will stay. This vlogger is spot on...take the advice.
Pretty much spot on Ryan. Walking ATM will be a walking ATM any country. I have always been careful with my money, but not tight. I my case I met a 28 year old Thai lady who seemed to be bright cheerful but down on her luck form previous bad 6 year relationship with a Farang. I was then 46 and ready for a lasting relationship. From the start I could see a future, I made it very clear there would be no 'salary' but we would live from the same pocket as in I would pay our living expenses. I bought a house in my name with a 30 year land lease. I checked out her family story by visiting her village in the fist 30 days, met all the family. Nice people with regular jobs. We been married 28 years, bought land, built houses for rent, made a company, got a work permit without paying expenses lawyers. My wife studied herself how to do all that stuff, even went to account school. We made a pile of money. Semi retired now. Sold the company property and land. Still have two business land property for rent. Very good result for us. Other than i could not produce children and my wife never had a kid from her last relationship. Sad.
Great Vlog... What I find amazing is that anyone would think that Thailand is any different to any other country in the world 🌎 Women are women, and men are men!!!! The same problems, challenges, and the same opportunities excise everywhere. The point is to attempt to find the right partner, based on trust, understanding and compromise and live out a happy life. If you choose poorly, as I have done in the west, you will be 🔥 no matter where you are!!!
All countries are different, , morals , upbringing, culture.. they all contribute. Yes we all have the same problems, but we deal with them different. X
3 weeks ago I had the best time I've ever experienced with Thai locals in ban pong. I was the only Farang. My friend could only speak broken english and the entire night was made up of gestures and smiling eating and drinking..
In regard to the Walking ATM topic, I had a fear of this becoming a reality in my current relationship but learned early that it wouldn't be that way. My wives family are Issan and we organized a trip to Chiang Mai during Christmas time. I had some financial issues arise and I was embarrassed that I couldn't take care of my wife and her family not only during a good portion of the trip, but also back when we went to her families afterwards. I felt ashamed, but they told me they thought nothing of it which was a great relief. To me, it seemed like the family valued just trying your best and not being afraid to ask for help even when we might ego it because of the USD or whatever home currency we have can be so strong in Thailand. This went all over the place, but if you are worried about being a walking ATM I would stick to local places. TLDR; It's nice to have money, but family and having a good heart are more important. My Thai family of farmers are a lot happier compared to my US farmer family and the Thais have significantly less.
Your final paragraph about your Thai family of farmers being happier compared to your US counterparts reminds me of the vast welfare states in both America and my own country, Britain. There are people on welfare in Britain who get everything for free, and are living on as much as £40,000 a year. Yet they remain the most ungrateful and miserable buggers in the world.
My late Thai wife (48 years) was from khan Kaen . We lived mostly in the USA. I would love to return and live out my life there. I am quite wealthy by Thai standards but i do fear being taken advantage of. I love the idea of really impacting my family positively not the village. Appreciate the advice. Keep quiet about money.
There's a difference between 'a hand out' and 'a hand up'. The old saying, Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime". Sure some people need some help in a positive way, but not to be dependent on the help.
Always get to know your girl before marrying her. Minimum 2 years living together in my view. Also, if you ever plan on living upcountry, you better get to know the village where you will be living as well. In our moo baan, I have only been asked to "loan" money out once and this same woman asks to borrow money from everyone else in the village anyway so I'm no special exception. Otherwise nobody has ever asked to borrow money from me. Under no circumstance ever allow yourself to be the village ATM. If someone needs money, offer to give them a small job in exchange for some small money.
Like Las Vegas, the rule when visiting Pattaya on holiday is to not spend more than you can afford! I agree, many men do have bizarre perspectives about human sexuality and prostitution here. Because of the negative connotation of the "P" word, too many guys seem to forget basic humanity and respect for Thai females Keep tipping local workers and you are on your way to being the Village Chief in 20 years Ryan! Everyone is different and every foreigner spends differently I have no profound reason about this, just seems to be the way it is. Thank you for being an excellent example of an expat married with 2 boys in rural Thailand and producing these RUclips vlogs. Peace and Love Y'all PS . No one has asked you for money! Good, I will be the first. The interview I did I want my cut from the 4k views you got! 555 I admit I got a 25% discount on the last pair of pants I got, so lets call it even good buddy. Haha
Make sure to work on yourself leaving your bad habits back home. Do your homework on understanding the culture. You move overseas to create a better life. Take the time to find a partner who aligns with your values. If you go overseas for the wrong reasons making poor choices don't complain about the consequences. Thailand can be an almost perfect paradise with right mindset. Understand living overseas isn't the right choice for everyone.
My wife is constantly being asked how much I give her every month, quite openly. She doesn't give an answer. I also give a minimal amount when asked for contributions to the temple funds or local school. In case this sounds stingy, we regularly feed the "wheelchair man" as well as anyone that asks. This is at odds with Buddhist philosophy as understood here, they think that a rich guy that gives a lot of money to charity makes more merit than a poor widow that gives just a little, but that little is a big sacrifice. The rich guy helps more people than the poor guy, so... The "other Farang" in our village comes at the top of the list of donators, announced publicly, in the scale of ฿10 000 when the next highest donation will be ฿1000. The brother in law yesterday broke a machine while looking after our garden. He knows I know about it and also that if he asks I'll help pay (there again. I wouldn't pay the full amount).
It's very true that you are only a walking ATM is you make yourself one. If you need to flash the cash to make up for whatever you are lacking to get what you want, you still lack the something that you have to make up for with cash.
Speaking truths. Have yourself together, mentally, physically and financially before you move to Thailand. My mother told me never lead with your hand (wallet), they will fall in love with your money and not you.
Sometimes I used to sometimes buy the girls in the bar shoes or a dress when the mobile shop came around it was not expensive and I was only trying to help them but I was surprised when the boss of the bar a lady told me that the some girls thought I was an idiot because I gave money away. I thought I was being kind. Since that day 15 years ago I have never bought any dresses or any shoes for the bar girls. Now who were the idiots?..another great Vlog Ryan keep telling it like it is....love to you and your family❤
Nailed it. All countries are the same and life is about money and how to live of it. Spend it wisely and do only what you can afford. I could write a book about the past 20 years in Thailand and i still love it. If someone complains that he is a walking ATM then he definitely hang out at the wrong places and maybe with the wrong people. Not saying anyone is bad, it's the vibe and you get what you expect. But at the end of the day it is your decision to pull out your card and spend the money. If you complain about it then you already admit that you are the problem.
Look at Marketplace for that area. Just restrict how many km radius. Plenty of adds for land, farms and houses. Some are private adds some are from agents. Ask the agent. Use google translate communicating if you do not speak or write Thai. It’s better you ask the questions than your thai friend because they never ask what they see as confrontational questions
Yes. Your diver who comes to your house every day will expect a tip now. You are a celebrity. He knows that you are RUclips. I have been watching you for the past 2 years. So has everyone else.
"A Walking ATM" is the same all over the world. Look at tourist hot spots in every country. Up here in little Chiang Khan I have found respect for my contribution to my community and family. Collaboration in happiness seems to be way. The real currency is humility, patience, open-mindedness and a well practised sense of humour. Only my experience.
Just to counter the point you made about my post. I have lived here for three years so not a two week tourist. What i meant was indirectly pimping their daughters out. There is so much pressure on the daughters of the family to provide for the parents and relatives, sometimes the girls have no choice and forced into that line of work through the financial pressure and expectations the girls have pushed onto them. And that pressure is common throughout Thailand.
I will say my Thai wife has been approached to lend money to neighbors knowing she has a western husband but this happens to anymore when there is perceived money.
Excellent video. Yes I have been an ATM. My own choosing as I have only been a visitor. I'm certainly not sorry for this. Yes I have friends and relatives in Thailand. I'm Aussie, almost 70 years old three sons all grown and gone. So for me no problem. Loving the life and I upset some of the expats with my antics. That's life. Hope you have a happy and prosperous life. 👍👍😇❤️
Hi much appreciated your Advice on the village ATM I am planning to retire to Thailand in the near future currently holidaying West Coast of BKK Hau Hui cha am
I've never been to Thailand, but I like watching travel videos from time to time. I can't believe the topic in a video is a thing. In America, you go on a Tinder date, what do you do if the girl starts asking you to buy her stuff? You tell her no. It's that simple. I mean do people really think if they go to another country all those life skills go out the window, or do they just buy into the whole only Western girls are spoiled feminists stereotype?
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Everytime i visit my brother, my Thai sister in-law suddenly discovers the taste for beach side, fine seafood dining. Posh coffees and a wander around the department stores with me in tow with my purse. I bought the food, coffees. Didn't buy clothing but left 300$NZ on the table before I left. Next time I'll give that cash direct to my brother or leave nothing.
I live in Bangkok and honestly the Thai women here are often much wealthier than myself, I see girls here in Porsches, property moguls etc, and if they get with me, I won't add anything to their lifestyle financially anyway 🤣. I do notice on Bumble a lot of Thai girls with photos in Europe, infront of Gucci, Balenciaga shops, and typically in the Swiss Mountains. Not to generalise, but I STRONGLY believe there are particular guys from Europe here who will meet a girl here in Thailand, fly them to Europe, have some fun, and then fly them back only to breakup with them later down the line. I have heard a few stories since being here of Swiss guys doing that. (from Thai women themselves). This causes a problem because then there is a standard being set of "rich european farang", and for at least how much i earn personally, there's no way i can jet a woman half way across the world lol.
Great narration .. I have seen several of your videos … this by far the best … great views …. Too many ignorant people from the west. The men that get taken mostly are foolish. Thailand like any countries have it’s isuues but truly a great place and great people! Think western countries need to more to protect its people. The world is shrinking and it’s nice to see Thailand still has tradition.
The ATM problem will solve itself. Thailand is a rapidly aging society with a very low birthrate. The low birthrate is a ticking demographic timebomb and caused the government to call it an emergency. Many bar owners in Pattaya are complaining about being unable to find younger "staff" already.
If that delivery driver you spoke about has any sense, whenever he has more than one parcel to deliver, he'll split them up into separate deliveries. Before you know it, he'll be delivering to you multiple times per day.
I listened to what you are saying about being a ATM but would like your advice please. I went to see a girl in Bangkok In January who I had met online she worked in a spa. She arranged a week off work to see how thing’s progressed. We stayed together for a month and I paid for everything. We travelled to Chang mai and took a scooter to go touring. When we parted I gave her 3 weeks money that she lost in pay as they did not only not pay but find her for not working. She has proved that with bank statements. I have just paid again as we have just met again in turkey as her uk visa application failed. I plan to stay in Thailand for three months later in the year and if she stays with me I will have to pay her salary. How can I not be a ATM in this situation. PS when I looked at her bank statements I could see she had a village loan form a few years ago and was paying that so I have contributed to that as well but she did not ask. Any thoughts would be much appreciated. Gary.
I would probably need more information here. Initial thoughts are did she ask you? What are other discussion on money? Have you been to the spa? What do you guys talk about? What are the age differences and language abilities? Where so you see it going - where does she see it going. Otherwise on first glance there is nothing overly suspicious in what you have said 👍
Thank you for replying boss. I am 60 she is 44. She as never asked for money but as I say I pay for everything and leave her with money to cover her loss of income and I have paid 20000 baht off the village debt. I have asked for a loan contract but she say they don’t give them it’s done on honesty. Language is a little hard as her English is very limited and so is my Thai but we are getting by learning each other and using translate. If I go to Thailand later in the year for 3 months I will find somewhere in the north to rent and she will come with me but that means loosing her job. One small thing of concern is I sent 12000 baht for contingency when applying for the uk visa and when asked she had for a better word spent the money without asking and give some to her sister for milk for the new baby’s which I have seen pictures of. I do understand I will be paying for everything if we live together, do you think that’s making me an ATM or is this the norm. Thank you my friend.
Always hold onto the money, only give it out when you know exactly what it is for and how much, Thais love their families and I found money just ends up being given away, its from a big heart of course.
Was Thinking of Moving To Thailand but as you Cannot own a house outright in Thailand.. what if your already married.. you can buy a Condo ..but we don't want to buy a Condo and All the restrictions have put us off and the recent reports of the problems in some areas caused by the Influx of Russians escaping Mobilisation seems to me there are other places in the world which have far less restrictions and are just as cheap...maybe rent to see if we suitable?
There is an entire folklore that springs up around the mystique of the rich farang from Farangland who arrives to pay for everyone's whiskey, gambling debts, new truck and new house. Based on the number of youtube videos showing 60-70 year-old men building obscenely large, upscale new homes in piss-poor Issan moobahns, I'd say the folklore still has plenty of steam behind it.
I heard once if you want to make a big fortune into a small fortune, go to Hollywood and invest in films. It's the same in Thailand, there has been a business of separating foreigners from money, for nearly 40 years, and foreigners flush with cash from divorce settlements, or newly retired, and workers comp settlements will always be drawn to Thailand, and get lost in the great white, knight, rescue fantasy, which ends up a nightmare.
I run on the harem approach. I run six girlfriends and a few extra on the side. I never spend more than a day at a time and pay them when they leave. They know which side their bread is buttered and they don't make waves. When I go back home on the last day I host a lunch and invite all of the girls..We eat, drink and go to a few bars before my taxi arrives. Some of the girls are good friends with each other and meet up for drinks when I'm not around. They know I'm a butterfly but I treat them well and they understand, appreciate that. Most of them are around 40 with a couple of younger ones. Sometimes I send a bit of money (never much) during low season but other than that I only pay for what I get. All in all it's a sweet balance.
East Africa is not like that, but then we are not set up as a country with a doubtful reputation. All my experience in Tanzania is respect and inclusion. It has been 20 years here. Then again, I do not look for that kind of stuff. Learn the language and the culture. In my experience respect people and culture. You are a guest. But you may establish a family with all that implies. Kids, school fees, family meetings, being part of a tribe.
I’m a 66 year old married to a 57 year old Thai lady and we live in Thailand. She came into the marriage with a fully paid condo in Bangkok and 12 rai rice farm in khon kien she owns outright,she also had no debt. I have a very good pension that allows us to live on the beach in prachuap khiri khan. She’s the hardest working woman I’ve ever met with an even temperament and quick with a smile. I couldn’t be happier. Her family has never asked us for anything but occasionally I’ll offer small help if I see the need. I moved here with a suitcase,she already had everything else. I’m the lucky one. 😎
@@RONIN1111 It's not that rare over here. My wife is Vietnamese. We live in Vietnam and her salary is equal to my salary. The problem is that we usually only hear about the bad stories. There are lots of successful locals over here with boatloads of money. You'd be surprised.
I've know several guys who have fallen in love with their "holiday girlfriend". I don't know of anyone who has walked out of that situation without getting their hearts broken and wallets emptied. Stupid is as stupid does.
I cannot agree with you. I do concur that a lot of people have been duped by Thais who are with you for what you bring to the table but to think that is the be all and end all for all Thais then you are wrong. I have married a Thai from the north, she works hard and long hours in a Thai restaurant and I fell on hard times and she paid for everything for us. When I got back on my feet I tried to pay her back but she wouldn’t have any of it, she would just say you are family and Thais take care of family which in their culture is important. I guess it does depend a lot on who you meet and in my case I am lucky and have married into a family who accept you for who you are and not what you have.
There's a lot of urban myths surrounding living in Thailand. We've lived in this area 20yrs and after 20yrs i'm still the only farang in the village. Like you no one has ever asked me for money and whenever we go to visit family or friends they will never let us pay for anything, they are proud people.
Thank you so much for having the courage to speak the truth as my Thai wife now 8 years she still works hard as pharmacist but every time we visit my home country people still label her as gold digger .My wife has never asked for anything in fact she told me to never speak to her about my finances because she didn’t want me to blame her if there was any gossip.But the other hand I but a down payment on a motorcycle for stepson because he starts University this month and needed it he works part time and will make monthly payments. My stepdaughter desperately needed braces poor girl was ashamed to smile . I pay 1600baht per month to see her smile and it’s worth every baht . The difference is that I choose to help her and the children have a better life and it fills my ❤ with joy
That's appalling, but thanks for sharing. There are plenty of gold digging hoes in the West as well. Bill Burr has one of the funniest comedy rants on RUclips when he talks about an epidemic of gold digging whores. It's worth watching.
Good evening from Pattaya. Outside the centre. I'll give you all some facts. I'm waiting for a court verdict today which I am defending my dead father from being ripped off by his Thai x wife. I live in Thailand and have done for 15 years with my English wife. We love it but be aware of the bad side. Do NOT marry any bar girl. And it's not just bar girls. I'd stay away from Pattaya if you are looking for any relationship. Myself I'd forget it. Like the host says what you may think is your girlfriends brother could turn out to be her boyfriend and you are just a cash machine. Maria and Col
I read a story about an old farang that spoke to being the family ATM. He agreed that it could be frustrating at times in considering his own self worth with his Missus and her family. This fellow had a bad motorcycle accident and was not his fault but ended up in the hospital with a coma. This fellow stated that he was not insured for whatever reason. When he came out of his coma and was released from the hospital the bill had been paid in full. He asked his wife how she managed to pay the expensive hospital bill and she simply said that the family had sold all of their gold and we're just glad to have him back. He realized that his personal value to his wife was worth all the gold in their world...and not a word on that was ever mentioned. Thai culture is rooted in goodness and acceptance in ways that are not easily identified. He was very grateful for his Thai wife as am I...she is worth every penny but rarely asks me for anything. I don't give out of obligation but out of generosity because paying my good fortune forward makes me feel good. I have the power of my purse, that will never change but I give when I choose to and in turn have changed quite a few lives for the better. Make your choice. Good luck. 🙏
If you met her on a dating app, in a beer bar or a gogo, she is on the game and its pretty certain that it will end in tears. learn the language, 2 hours a day minimum until you are fluent. its amazing how much you will learn about people by just overhearing them in conversation.
@@RandomDude-l5f - funnily enough, some good marriages are made between expats and bar girls. I guess common sense would dictate that relationships with bar girls will usually end in disaster, and we have all heard or read of countless horror stories but sometimes they do work. I even know of two blokes who worked in a different country in S.E. Asia, both graduates with responsible jobs as managers in major companies, who ended up marrying girls who worked in the 'night time entertainment industry.' Their marriages seemed to work. Nevertheless, I like your point about learning the language.
I’m currently getting a fence made (welded from steel), car port, shed, concrete drive way. Paying 300 baht a day for labour, we buy the materials. Been married for 10 years here. Worked here for 15 years. Retired now to near Laos border.
You only get taken advantage of if you are stupid enough to allow it. You must first assume that everyone around you is evil and out to get you. Then let people slowly earn your trust. And that works in any country.
None of this sounds very appealing to me AT ALL! Moving to a foreign country where you will never be granted citizenship, never be able to own a house, never be able to own any land, never truly know who your friends are, being used by a bunch of people who only want to take your money so they can give it to their family and the list just goes on and on and on... Seriously, this is where the United States just plain gets it wrong because a Thai person can come to America, legally gain US citizenship, buy and legally own homes and land, and they can do that both in the US and in their native country Thailand. However, a US citizen cannot do anything even remotely similar in Thailand, or the Philippines, or about 99% of foreign countries! Again I have to wonder why anyone who is a US citizen by birth would want to live in a country where you basically cannot do anything, when people from those countries can move to your country and get to do everything...
Perhaps due to the history of the people who invaded North America-were all immigrants. So immigration is in the DNA of the USA. It’s very different for a location that’s had very little immigration and where family owned land goes back hundreds of years. In the UK we had an Empire and this has led to the welcoming of people who once showed allegiance to The Crown. Look to history/geography for answers.
I had two close friends put through the ringer by Thai women. One was a colleague and one was a family friend. They both got totally ripped off, lost half their pensions, lost half of their businesses and houses. Catastrophic for them...but it was their own fault. They used the women as sex slaves and house keepers when married and then the tables turned. I'm a woman, so I don't have this problem, but really guys, use your heads and keep your hands firmly on your businesses, wallets and property
Yes, I was a walking ATM to my Thai wife. It lasted about 6 years and I got tired of always being broke. It was very bad when I put a stop to it and I ended up walking away from her. The marriage was never registered, so there was no divorce involved and I just walked away free. I will never go through that again.
Happily married to a lovely Thai lady who works as an executive in the pharma industry, I work in the aquaculture industry as a consultant and a teacher at a private school. I have never given money, instead we talk about where we should invest our money together in many area's outside of Thailand and starting a local business here. The Thai people are lovely and so is her family who also have never asked for money. If you behave like a walking ATM or just stupid, you will be rinsed. Thai women are not stupid and they know the world is changing. The cheeky ones will rinse you if you allow this to happen or continue.
I live in a rural village in the Buriram area....Ryan is spot on for sure on this one.....Its good to have boundaries socially, mentally, economically anywhere you live.....Thailand non- tourist areas are for pioneers!!! not mongers and old men with small pockets....
@@Rodderz1 No way. Up to you as everyone in Thailand says.....Im just saying if you dont have deep pockets, and you are perhaps old, and dont have vision for yourself the walls will close in on you and nobody wants that feeling when they are basically an alien living on another planet. Im just speaking fro issan village life. Not pattaya, not phuket, not where everything is basically western and sooooo easy....
Thailand as a country has many different sides. But something that I found out lately was the huge number of narcisissts this country producced. Covert narcissism is very common. Maybe childhood trauma is a part of this. Thailand is not an equal country for foreigners, we are second or third class persons. As most Asian countries Thailand policy is clear. We are useful idiots to a system that mainly count abilities in money. Some Western men think they can use misuse women becuse their inability to love. So they meet mirrored by themselves these Thai women with the same concept. The image of Thailand and living the illusion is dangerous.
Me and my wife enjoy your videos and I see both sides so I'm not being one sided. I see so many getting ripped off. I do tip thais here but keep it to a minimum. More of a token not to be tight as these thais work long hours for little pay. Maria and Col
I can't speak for anyone, much like you say, just my personal experience. Few ideas align, don't be the ATM, it is possible. 1st don't put yourself in a situation, learn to say "no", the bad people will talk bad about you either way. As far as a partner, find one that works and support oneself. If she(or he) has a career, even better. Be humble, showing off attracts the wrong attention/people. Keep your nest safe, don't give the keys of the kingdom to anyone. Make sure you are more valuable alive than dead, I'm pragmatic to this level. I had the opportunity to live in few places. I can spend days telling stories about success and failures from every single one. They vary a little depending on the culture or the local economy, but the fundamental factor is always the same. Human beings are the source. Just one practice I do that might help you. I don't tip the delivery people, I give them an annual gift (money) and keep a cordial relationship with them. When you tip often, it becomes an obligation. Cheers!
If I could and had all the money in the world, I would walk Thailand doing for Thai People., I enjoy this. I am of little means but do what I can. So yes, I am a walking atm to Thai people but I pic my moments when I can make a huge impact on a particular Thai person. It maybe a person who struggles to sell small trinkets and is not doing well. It may be a villager who has not had a great meal in a few. I try to be stealth. Don't tell anyone ❤
This is a good point but you are not an ATM - an ATM is used by someone - they are not using you - you are giving from the heart as I also try to do 👍👍👍
I know I tip too much, generally, when in SE Asia, but I seldom see recipients express "entitlement" and expectations of continued generosity. Rather, the typical response is sincere gratitude (something often unseen when in the USA or Europe). Regarding the "Walking ATM" issue, it's human nature almost everywhere to exploit generosity and I did this myself when younger. Just be aware of it and realize those are unhealthy dynamics.
Using the term "beta male" is definitely looking down on some men, in the sense that it's an insult. Also, just an FYI, the term comes from discredited science from wolf study that was based entirely on captive wolves. The originator of the term "alpha male" (David Mech), has requested that his book no longer be published because it's incorrect. Anyway, mostly, you are insulting wolves.
Perhaps I can concede my terminology needs a little work - see disclaimers at the start and the end- I use it in a sense of social hierarchies not to offend.
Enjoy your videos fella. You've not only got a hell of a lot of knowledge, life skills and good advice but it's wrapped up in a wider circle of wisdom. Keep doing the great work.Booked for Koh Samui and Bangkok for the first time. Feb. Looking forward to it. 👊👊👊
you nailed it guru if you are daft enough to act like a walking ATM then they will treat you as that forever theres plenty of nice ladys in Thailand just don't go to the tourist places and i think people don't spend enough time there before jumping into a wedding ring
In Thailand, as it should be anywhere in the world, parting with your money is totally in your own control...other than being a victim of a crime. It's nobodies fault but mine (thank you Zep)...should be your credo to live by. Yes, the bar girls go to a different province to work and tell their families they work in a restaurant, hotel or other morally acceptable job.
I really have no time for all the guys who repeat the tired old clichés about Thailand and Thai women in particular. My wife is 20 years younger than me and so what, we have a great loving relationship. We lived in my condo for 10 years before I built a house and up to that point people just assumed we didn’t have much money. We spent our money on travel, not things, so people couldn't really see it. After we built the house people thought we were rich and I joked they got it backwards. Before I had no house but I had money, now I have a house but no money because I spent it all. If you lightheartedly avoid discussing money people eventually stop asking. It can be hard for Thai women to deal with the pressure of having a farang husband depending on her social class. I just figured that if people are not embarrassed to ask for money then I don’t see why I should be embarrassed to say no but it is not always that easy for a girl. Just make a joke and move on. I am sorry if you think I was giving you a hard time about your Thai pronunciation. You are correct that Thais will eventually learn to understand bad pronunciation especially if you can string enough words together to make sentences, which you can. The real problem comes from throwing out a single word with no context and that is where most foreigners are. Still, making the effort to speak Thai better really pays dividends, at least that has been my experience.
Thank you for this spot on video, Sir. People forget that most Thai ladies do work, have normal jobs, and do not come from bars or being a freelancer at the tourist areas. I have 14 years of marriage behind me with a Norwegian man, and I still worked most of the time (working as a visa agent when we first met), and contributed to our marriage as much as I could. I never asked for a penny, that was not important for me at all. I can take good care of myself. I think most Thai ladies looking for a farang, see an opportunity to see more of the world, learn more about other countries` culture, and look for an opportunity to travel. Also, I can confirm that many Thai ladies see Thai husbands as not reliable, the often do not take care of the familiy and kids like foreigners do (and that has nothing to do about money). Thai men are often out drinking with friends, leaving their wives home to take care of the kids. So if anyone wonder what Thai ladies see in a 20+ year older farang husband, well, there is your answer. Love is also a funny thing, love is not only about those first feelings you get in a relationship, but also about security, sharing our lives, being there for each other, and taking good care of each other. Those first feelings never last anyway, but true love does. I have never loved anyone more than I did with my 21 years older husband. And yes, we found common ground, and had a lot in common. Unfortunately he passed away in 2020, but he was my life, and more.
@@thenakedguru My pleasure. I really enjoy your channel, because you speak the truth from your heart, at least the way you see it. And you are always on point, as I see it. Keep up the good work, Sir 😊
@@28pbtkh23 Thank you for your kind words 🙏 To be honest, I haven't even dated anyone since. But none of us knows the future, we all deserve happiness 😊
You are a walking ATM anywhere in South East Asia, not just the tourist areas. After 6 years in Thailand and more than 11 years in the Philippines - I can tell you that much. Never buy a property, never lend money, for whatever reason. Always rent (preferably short to mid-term) and always keep your stuff almost packed and ready to go any moment, no relationship is for life (many farangs fail to realize that) . If it's not working just leave or leave her having kids with them is a big no-no
30 baht tip for Flash/Kerry? When my leg was broken I was ordering in food all every day. I set the app to automatically tip 5 baht. It's only 5 baht but 3 times a day. I left the setting until my leg healed and I stopped getting delivery. Now I only order in when it's raining, so I feel the tip is well earned.
Western guys acted as if this is a big surprise that is happening in Thailand or anywhere else in Southeast Asians. In the US, we have what is referring to as "sugar daddy" where young college girls is dating or going out with rich older guys or married to.
Great video. Very funny in places. A few nights ago I was walking down Loi Kroh road in Chiang mai and there was this guy, about early forties, rapping along to some song, thinking he was the bees and clearly thinking that the other three women around him thought he was a cool rapper dude. Even I could tell they were not thinking that. They were thinking ATM.
I’m Thai living in Chicago USA. I make $40k per month doing 4 faceless RUclips channels about finance. My kid’s mother ( black girl ) still thinks I’m an Uber driver. I pick up my 4 year old daughter while driving an old Nissan Versa. And I tell my daughter that my main car is “Grandma’s car”. Also the house I live in is “Grandma’s house”. If my daughter wants something I tell her grandma has all the money. I do all of this to prevent my daughter’s mom from know the truth. When my daughter turns 18, she will know the truth. Everything that daddy and grandma owns will solely be hers one day. We lied to prevent mommy from stealing what is rightfully hers. So you are correct sir. You become a walking ATM because of the choices you make. Even here in USA.
My Thai wife and I refuse to be the family ATM. Not only that, I said many times to my wife that she has to realize that her parents are not young anymore and their pension is depending on their children. She should talk to her sisters and brother about this and then make clear what everybody can give to the parents. The problem is that she is the youngest and because of that whatever she says is not accepted. She's 50! So the never ending story continues... but still I'm not a walking ATM.
Hello Ryan….. For what is would serve I’d offer that this on-going conversation is well worth exploring for all of us especially those who are looking realistically at the experience in SE Asia and Thailand in particular.
It’s very true. It is so easy to hand over and give money. And it’s so to fall into the trap of look at me I have lots of money. And you become vulnerable. And it doesn’t matter what country you’re in. Many things well said Ryan 👍🙏🙏
If you arrive in the village with your newly minted bar babe who is taking you home to meet the family and you start acting as "The Big I Am", it's only a matter of time before you become "The Big ATM" Next thing you know is a brand new Toyota vigo is expected and then you're off. Thousands know the story. If you have a good woman, and some of them do come from the bar scene, but country life in the village is different from Condo life in Bangkok or Pattaya. Caveat Emptor.
I have been finding out it not necessarily a farang ATM issue. My wife makes 2.1 million baht a year working here in America, she used to get asked all the time for "help". She takes care of her mom and grandpa ect. Thank god she doesn't have any brothers and sisters 555. Cousins, Aunts, Uncles, friends used to ask quite a bit. We budget fairly tightly because of having a mortgage here in the states and building a house in Thailand, meanwhile trying to retire early. Thai people are awesome, dropped my wallet 3 times on the last trip and always had someone running up fast giving it back, twice in BKK and once in the village. Always a heavy tipper on vacation mode, lol. Poor people in Thailand don't have anything close to the west with all the social safety nets such as food stamps, housing, ect. I could go on and on about how Thai people on the average are much less gimme gimme gimme than those in the west.
Oh yeah. There are thousands of people in Britain on welfare and have never worked. Some of these people can get up to £40k a year for just sitting on their backsides. And they're still ungrateful.
It’s a shame I have to mention this but this video is responding to the comments you see on the screen, not talking to you directly, so if it seems condescending that’s because I feel I am defending Thai people from ignorant comments. The message is that we are accountable for our experience and there is nothing uniquely Thai when it comes to being treated as an ATM. I will also add, Thai people have helped me in this country again and again, had a broken motorbike? they took me to the garage without any payment. They helped with our build and asked for nothing. I have lost wallets that have been returned and I have never been directly asked for money here. Thai people are awesome. Don’t forget to share your stories, advice, agreements and outrage..
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Dear Ryan,
I completely agree with your perspective on the stigma of being perceived as a "walking ATM." Having lived in Thailand for over two decades and worked as an international airline pilot, I am acutely aware of the reasons behind this characterization. However, it ultimately comes down to personal discretion. No one is forcing individuals to display their wealth. From my own experiences, I have noticed that many expatriates and tourists tend to exhibit their affluence openly, only to be surprised when they are labeled as ATMs.
Financial matters have always been viewed as a shared family responsibility throughout my twenty-year marriage to my Thai spouse. I have been fortunate enough not to bear the sole responsibility of supporting my spouse's family. Instead, it has been a collective effort among siblings to ensure the well-being of our parents.
Any challenges that may arise are addressed collectively, underscoring the importance of family unity. I firmly believe that this collaborative approach strengthens familial ties and cultivates a sense of mutual obligation.
Regarding the young women from Issan working in bars, I agree with your assessment that many foreigners claim they are coerced into the sex industry by their families. As you rightly pointed out, a significant number, in my opinion, most, deceive their families. Many foreigners who visit Thailand for leisure are often unfamiliar with the nuances of Thai culture. Understanding and respecting their culture requires dedication and patience.
Your channel brings me great joy as I work diligently in Saudi Arabia, eagerly counting down the days until I can return home to Bangkok. With 19 months left until my retirement, I am constructing my home in Khao Kho. I highly recommend you visit Khao Kho, a stunning destination. Best wishes to you and your family.
Kevin
What a wonderful "session" with you today! I really appreciate your wisdom and shared experience. Also, I should mention I enjoy just listening to your voice....relaxing, unique and very pleasant. Now here's a wee story from me: Almost 20 years ago my Taiwanese partner and I made a trip to Thailand from Australia. One day we had lunch in a restaurant in Siam Square. As the food arrived, we set our camera on an empty seat beside us. After enjoying our lunch, we left the restaurant and made our way past the shops, across an overpass and down to the other side of the busy main street where we were going to take a bus to our next stop for the day. All of a sudden, the waiter from the restaurant appeared in front of us, all out of breath, and handed us our camera. He had come all that way to find us and give it back....wouldn't take a thing for it, and said bye with a wai. To this day that incident brings tears to my eyes.
Thank you for sharing 🙏
Those girls that treat you like an ATM exist in Western countries as well. in every country this happens when you frequent those types of establishments and hang out in bars and tourist area. Well said Guru!
100% true!
The only difference is that in the west pay more!
"You're a walking ATM if you choose to be". Correct. Good info. I'm a rare bird - a solo female farang who worked & lived in Thailand (Jomtien) for 3 years, owned a condo & visited regularly until late 2019. You're a guest in Thailand so you make sure you very quickly learn about how to conduct yourself & recognise that West & East have different mindsets. Learn some language, show respect & engage with local life in a positive way. Similarly to Ryan, I've had help from Thai people - returning a mislaid mobile phone, purse being returned - & not asked for anything back.
Thanks for sharing and i'm glad to read some comments from female expats as well!
Correct. If you allow it, it will happen. Just say no. If she leaves, then you know the truth. Just say no. People are animals, like a cat, if you put out milk, it will stay. This vlogger is spot on...take the advice.
Pretty much spot on Ryan. Walking ATM will be a walking ATM any country. I have always been careful with my money, but not tight. I my case I met a 28 year old Thai lady who seemed to be bright cheerful but down on her luck form previous bad 6 year relationship with a Farang. I was then 46 and ready for a lasting relationship. From the start I could see a future, I made it very clear there would be no 'salary' but we would live from the same pocket as in I would pay our living expenses. I bought a house in my name with a 30 year land lease. I checked out her family story by visiting her village in the fist 30 days, met all the family. Nice people with regular jobs. We been married 28 years, bought land, built houses for rent, made a company, got a work permit without paying expenses lawyers. My wife studied herself how to do all that stuff, even went to account school. We made a pile of money. Semi retired now. Sold the company property and land. Still have two business land property for rent. Very good result for us. Other than i could not produce children and my wife never had a kid from her last relationship. Sad.
Thanks for sharing Alex 👍
Miricles happen ❤️
I may be a walking ATM but I never give out my PIN 😅😅😅
Good idea!
That’s brilliant my friend
Beware of Hypnosis, 555 Hahaha
Wise man!!!!😅😂
They don't need the PIN if you give it out easily :P
Great Vlog... What I find amazing is that anyone would think that Thailand is any different to any other country in the world 🌎 Women are women, and men are men!!!! The same problems, challenges, and the same opportunities excise everywhere. The point is to attempt to find the right partner, based on trust, understanding and compromise and live out a happy life. If you choose poorly, as I have done in the west, you will be 🔥 no matter where you are!!!
All countries are different, , morals , upbringing, culture.. they all contribute. Yes we all have the same problems, but we deal with them different. X
3 weeks ago I had the best time I've ever experienced with Thai locals in ban pong. I was the only Farang. My friend could only speak broken english and the entire night was made up of gestures and smiling eating and drinking..
Thais are the best!
Lots of sense. Really enjoy your videos for honesty and respectful way. Cheers. Jim. Uk
Cheers Jim 👍
In regard to the Walking ATM topic, I had a fear of this becoming a reality in my current relationship but learned early that it wouldn't be that way.
My wives family are Issan and we organized a trip to Chiang Mai during Christmas time. I had some financial issues arise and I was embarrassed that I couldn't take care of my wife and her family not only during a good portion of the trip, but also back when we went to her families afterwards. I felt ashamed, but they told me they thought nothing of it which was a great relief.
To me, it seemed like the family valued just trying your best and not being afraid to ask for help even when we might ego it because of the USD or whatever home currency we have can be so strong in Thailand.
This went all over the place, but if you are worried about being a walking ATM I would stick to local places.
TLDR; It's nice to have money, but family and having a good heart are more important. My Thai family of farmers are a lot happier compared to my US farmer family and the Thais have significantly less.
Also I can't count the amount of times that Thais have helped me when I couldn't offer anything or could barely communicate with them.
Your final paragraph about your Thai family of farmers being happier compared to your US counterparts reminds me of the vast welfare states in both America and my own country, Britain. There are people on welfare in Britain who get everything for free, and are living on as much as £40,000 a year. Yet they remain the most ungrateful and miserable buggers in the world.
My late Thai wife (48 years) was from khan Kaen . We lived mostly in the USA. I would love to return and live out my life there. I am quite wealthy by Thai standards but i do fear being taken advantage of. I love the idea of really impacting my family positively not the village. Appreciate the advice. Keep quiet about money.
I live 35km south of udon Thani ,been watching you for a while ,you seem pretty down to earth type of Young guy, l've just sub to your channel.
Cheers John
There's a difference between 'a hand out' and 'a hand up'. The old saying, Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime". Sure some people need some help in a positive way, but not to be dependent on the help.
Always get to know your girl before marrying her. Minimum 2 years living together in my view. Also, if you ever plan on living upcountry, you better get to know the village where you will be living as well. In our moo baan, I have only been asked to "loan" money out once and this same woman asks to borrow money from everyone else in the village anyway so I'm no special exception. Otherwise nobody has ever asked to borrow money from me. Under no circumstance ever allow yourself to be the village ATM. If someone needs money, offer to give them a small job in exchange for some small money.
Like Las Vegas, the rule when visiting Pattaya on holiday is to not spend more than you can afford! I agree, many men do have bizarre perspectives about human sexuality and prostitution here. Because of the negative connotation of the "P" word, too many guys seem to forget basic humanity and respect for Thai females Keep tipping local workers and you are on your way to being the Village Chief in 20 years Ryan! Everyone is different and every foreigner spends differently I have no profound reason about this, just seems to be the way it is. Thank you for being an excellent example of an expat married with 2 boys in rural Thailand and producing these RUclips vlogs. Peace and Love Y'all
PS . No one has asked you for money! Good, I will be the first. The interview I did I want my cut from the 4k views you got! 555 I admit I got a 25% discount on the last pair of pants I got, so lets call it even good buddy. Haha
Ill send you the $6 in via Wise when i get a min! haha
@@thenakedguru 😂😂🖖✌🤙
My wife’s family only asked if I had a good heart that’s it. Yes I did buy them some things new fridge tv etc but I was not asked for these things
Me too 🙏👍
Make sure to work on yourself leaving your bad habits back home. Do your homework on understanding the culture. You move overseas to create a better life. Take the time to find a partner who aligns with your values. If you go overseas for the wrong reasons making poor choices don't complain about the consequences. Thailand can be an almost perfect paradise with right mindset. Understand living overseas isn't the right choice for everyone.
My wife is constantly being asked how much I give her every month, quite openly. She doesn't give an answer. I also give a minimal amount when asked for contributions to the temple funds or local school. In case this sounds stingy, we regularly feed the "wheelchair man" as well as anyone that asks.
This is at odds with Buddhist philosophy as understood here, they think that a rich guy that gives a lot of money to charity makes more merit than a poor widow that gives just a little, but that little is a big sacrifice. The rich guy helps more people than the poor guy, so...
The "other Farang" in our village comes at the top of the list of donators, announced publicly, in the scale of ฿10 000 when the next highest donation will be ฿1000.
The brother in law yesterday broke a machine while looking after our garden. He knows I know about it and also that if he asks I'll help pay (there again. I wouldn't pay the full amount).
It's very true that you are only a walking ATM is you make yourself one. If you need to flash the cash to make up for whatever you are lacking to get what you want, you still lack the something that you have to make up for with cash.
Quite right Joe 🙏🙏
Speaking truths. Have yourself together, mentally, physically and financially before you move to Thailand. My mother told me never lead with your hand (wallet), they will fall in love with your money and not you.
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Sometimes I used to sometimes buy the girls in the bar shoes or a dress when the mobile shop came around it was not expensive and I was only trying to help them but I was surprised when the boss of the bar a lady told me that the some girls thought I was an idiot because I gave money away. I thought I was being kind. Since that day 15 years ago I have never bought any dresses or any shoes for the bar girls. Now who were the idiots?..another great Vlog Ryan keep telling it like it is....love to you and your family❤
I don't blame the Thais sometimes people see kindness as a weakness.
Its all part of the learning curve of life.
Thanks David - appreciate it 👍
Nailed it. All countries are the same and life is about money and how to live of it. Spend it wisely and do only what you can afford. I could write a book about the past 20 years in Thailand and i still love it. If someone complains that he is a walking ATM then he definitely hang out at the wrong places and maybe with the wrong people. Not saying anyone is bad, it's the vibe and you get what you expect. But at the end of the day it is your decision to pull out your card and spend the money. If you complain about it then you already admit that you are the problem.
Would like a video on locating houses to rent/lease out in the village. Websites I look at seem to cover in-town houses, but not rural areas. Thx
Difficult to find because the locals generally use the dwellings, and if not extended family need them, cheers
Look at Marketplace for that area. Just restrict how many km radius. Plenty of adds for land, farms and houses. Some are private adds some are from agents. Ask the agent. Use google translate communicating if you do not speak or write Thai. It’s better you ask the questions than your thai friend because they never ask what they see as confrontational questions
Yes. Your diver who comes to your house every day will expect a tip now. You are a celebrity. He knows that you are RUclips. I have been watching you for the past 2 years. So has everyone else.
"A Walking ATM" is the same all over the world. Look at tourist hot spots in every country. Up here in little Chiang Khan I have found respect for my contribution to my community and family. Collaboration in happiness seems to be way. The real currency is humility, patience, open-mindedness and a well practised sense of humour. Only my experience.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Just to counter the point you made about my post. I have lived here for three years so not a two week tourist. What i meant was indirectly pimping their daughters out. There is so much pressure on the daughters of the family to provide for the parents and relatives, sometimes the girls have no choice and forced into that line of work through the financial pressure and expectations the girls have pushed onto them. And that pressure is common throughout Thailand.
Thanks Colin, think we discussed on the post - and this was not directly addressed to you - more and if and then general statement 👍🙏
@@thenakedguru my fault, I worded my original post in a terrible way. So apologies.
I will say my Thai wife has been approached to lend money to neighbors knowing she has a western husband but this happens to anymore when there is perceived money.
A nice village lady. I can't ask for more very happy 🎉
Honest insight. Thanks much 🤙
Perfect. Nothing untoward in this.
Excellent video. Yes I have been an ATM. My own choosing as I have only been a visitor. I'm certainly not sorry for this. Yes I have friends and relatives in Thailand. I'm Aussie, almost 70 years old three sons all grown and gone. So for me no problem. Loving the life and I upset some of the expats with my antics. That's life. Hope you have a happy and prosperous life. 👍👍😇❤️
Hi much appreciated your Advice on the village ATM I am planning to retire to Thailand in the near future currently holidaying West Coast of BKK Hau Hui cha am
Cheers Anthony - I got about colorful with my response for entertainment and hoping some others will listen - all the best with your retirement 🙏🙏
I've never been to Thailand, but I like watching travel videos from time to time. I can't believe the topic in a video is a thing. In America, you go on a Tinder date, what do you do if the girl starts asking you to buy her stuff? You tell her no. It's that simple. I mean do people really think if they go to another country all those life skills go out the window, or do they just buy into the whole only Western girls are spoiled feminists stereotype?
Interesting commentary. How can you justify having savings in BTC with its extreme volatility? Allocation size very important
You have to look at the yearly chart and think in terms of 5-10 years. On this case it has been the best performing asset 7 out of 10 years compared to all other assest including stocks, gold and bonds 👍🙏
@@thenakedguru Sounds like you can handle very large and sudden drawdowns and are confident in a continuation of uptrend as time goes on
I think that goes for any long term high conviction investment you make with significant alpha, Tesla being another I hold 👍
Everytime i visit my brother, my Thai sister in-law suddenly discovers the taste for beach side, fine seafood dining. Posh coffees and a wander around the department stores with me in tow with my purse. I bought the food, coffees. Didn't buy clothing but left 300$NZ on the table before I left. Next time I'll give that cash direct to my brother or leave nothing.
I live in Bangkok and honestly the Thai women here are often much wealthier than myself, I see girls here in Porsches, property moguls etc, and if they get with me, I won't add anything to their lifestyle financially anyway 🤣.
I do notice on Bumble a lot of Thai girls with photos in Europe, infront of Gucci, Balenciaga shops, and typically in the Swiss Mountains. Not to generalise, but I STRONGLY believe there are particular guys from Europe here who will meet a girl here in Thailand, fly them to Europe, have some fun, and then fly them back only to breakup with them later down the line. I have heard a few stories since being here of Swiss guys doing that. (from Thai women themselves). This causes a problem because then there is a standard being set of "rich european farang", and for at least how much i earn personally, there's no way i can jet a woman half way across the world lol.
Yup most Thai women independent women with jobs such as my wife and her sisters.
Great narration .. I have seen several of your videos … this by far the best … great views …. Too many ignorant people from the west. The men that get taken mostly are foolish. Thailand like any countries have it’s isuues but truly a great place and great people! Think western countries need to more to protect its people. The world is shrinking and it’s nice to see Thailand still has tradition.
The ATM problem will solve itself. Thailand is a rapidly aging society with a very low birthrate. The low birthrate is a ticking demographic timebomb and caused the government to call it an emergency. Many bar owners in Pattaya are complaining about being unable to find younger "staff" already.
I think i saw that documentary
@@thenakedguru There are several documentaries addressing that problem. It's going to have severe economic consequences for the country.
ive had 2 Gary.. im working as hard as i can mate!
@@thenakedguru You're doing your part. Just remember, it takes more than 2 (for every woman in the country) to keep the population stable.
If that delivery driver you spoke about has any sense, whenever he has more than one parcel to deliver, he'll split them up into separate deliveries. Before you know it, he'll be delivering to you multiple times per day.
The lazada app makes this impossible and he is a nice guy 👍
I listened to what you are saying about being a ATM but would like your advice please. I went to see a girl in Bangkok In January who I had met online she worked in a spa. She arranged a week off work to see how thing’s progressed. We stayed together for a month and I paid for everything. We travelled to Chang mai and took a scooter to go touring. When we parted I gave her 3 weeks money that she lost in pay as they did not only not pay but find her for not working. She has proved that with bank statements. I have just paid again as we have just met again in turkey as her uk visa application failed. I plan to stay in Thailand for three months later in the year and if she stays with me I will have to pay her salary. How can I not be a ATM in this situation. PS when I looked at her bank statements I could see she had a village loan form a few years ago and was paying that so I have contributed to that as well but she did not ask. Any thoughts would be much appreciated. Gary.
I would probably need more information here. Initial thoughts are did she ask you? What are other discussion on money? Have you been to the spa? What do you guys talk about? What are the age differences and language abilities? Where so you see it going - where does she see it going. Otherwise on first glance there is nothing overly suspicious in what you have said 👍
Thank you for replying boss. I am 60 she is 44. She as never asked for money but as I say I pay for everything and leave her with money to cover her loss of income and I have paid 20000 baht off the village debt. I have asked for a loan contract but she say they don’t give them it’s done on honesty. Language is a little hard as her English is very limited and so is my Thai but we are getting by learning each other and using translate. If I go to Thailand later in the year for 3 months I will find somewhere in the north to rent and she will come with me but that means loosing her job. One small thing of concern is I sent 12000 baht for contingency when applying for the uk visa and when asked she had for a better word spent the money without asking and give some to her sister for milk for the new baby’s which I have seen pictures of. I do understand I will be paying for everything if we live together, do you think that’s making me an ATM or is this the norm. Thank you my friend.
Always hold onto the money, only give it out when you know exactly what it is for and how much, Thais love their families and I found money just ends up being given away, its from a big heart of course.
Was Thinking of Moving To Thailand but as you Cannot own a house outright in Thailand.. what if your already married.. you can buy a Condo ..but we don't want to buy a Condo and All the restrictions have put us off and the recent reports of the problems in some areas caused by the Influx of Russians escaping Mobilisation seems to me there are other places in the world which have far less restrictions and are just as cheap...maybe rent to see if we suitable?
There is an entire folklore that springs up around the mystique of the rich farang from Farangland who arrives to pay for everyone's whiskey, gambling debts, new truck and new house. Based on the number of youtube videos showing 60-70 year-old men building obscenely large, upscale new homes in piss-poor Issan moobahns, I'd say the folklore still has plenty of steam behind it.
Thanks.
I never use ATM's so i'm safe!
I heard once if you want to make a big fortune into a small fortune, go to Hollywood and invest in films. It's the same in Thailand, there has been a business of separating foreigners from money, for nearly 40 years, and foreigners flush with cash from divorce settlements, or newly retired, and workers comp settlements will always be drawn to Thailand, and get lost in the great white, knight, rescue fantasy, which ends up a nightmare.
Very well said young man.
are you asking people to examine their personal bias before forming an opinion?? hahahaahahahahahahaha
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I run on the harem approach. I run six girlfriends and a few extra on the side. I never spend more than a day at a time and pay them when they leave. They know which side their bread is buttered and they don't make waves. When I go back home on the last day I host a lunch and invite all of the girls..We eat, drink and go to a few bars before my taxi arrives. Some of the girls are good friends with each other and meet up for drinks when I'm not around. They know I'm a butterfly but I treat them well and they understand, appreciate that. Most of them are around 40 with a couple of younger ones. Sometimes I send a bit of money (never much) during low season but other than that I only pay for what I get. All in all it's a sweet balance.
So you got a hoard of prostitutes , and then boast on RUclips , you must be a 🇬🇧 UKroid😂
I think the new breed of men are now classed as "walking nano ledgers" 😆
East Africa is not like that, but then we are not set up as a country with a doubtful reputation. All my experience in Tanzania is respect and inclusion. It has been 20 years here. Then again, I do not look for that kind of stuff. Learn the language and the culture. In my experience respect people and culture. You are a guest. But you may establish a family with all that implies. Kids, school fees, family meetings, being part of a tribe.
I’m a 66 year old married to a 57 year old Thai lady and we live in Thailand. She came into the marriage with a fully paid condo in Bangkok and 12 rai rice farm in khon kien she owns outright,she also had no debt. I have a very good pension that allows us to live on the beach in prachuap khiri khan. She’s the hardest working woman I’ve ever met with an even temperament and quick with a smile. I couldn’t be happier. Her family has never asked us for anything but occasionally I’ll offer small help if I see the need. I moved here with a suitcase,she already had everything else. I’m the lucky one. 😎
Winning my friend 🙏👍
a rare case.
The exception that proves the rule…
@@RONIN1111 It's not that rare over here. My wife is Vietnamese. We live in Vietnam and her salary is equal to my salary. The problem is that we usually only hear about the bad stories. There are lots of successful locals over here with boatloads of money. You'd be surprised.
I know a few guys here in Uk with Thai wives. You will not find harder working women. Great parents too.
I've know several guys who have fallen in love with their "holiday girlfriend". I don't know of anyone who has walked out of that situation without getting their hearts broken and wallets emptied. Stupid is as stupid does.
bingo
I cannot agree with you. I do concur that a lot of people have been duped by Thais who are with you for what you bring to the table but to think that is the be all and end all for all Thais then you are wrong. I have married a Thai from the north, she works hard and long hours in a Thai restaurant and I fell on hard times and she paid for everything for us. When I got back on my feet I tried to pay her back but she wouldn’t have any of it, she would just say you are family and Thais take care of family which in their culture is important. I guess it does depend a lot on who you meet and in my case I am lucky and have married into a family who accept you for who you are and not what you have.
I agree Tony - here I think he means bar girl - your case is one of the happy endings for lack of a better phrase 👍
@@tonystephenson500 What is your definition of a "holiday girlfriend"?
There's a lot of urban myths surrounding living in Thailand. We've lived in this area 20yrs and after 20yrs i'm still the only farang in the village. Like you no one has ever asked me for money and whenever we go to visit family or friends they will never let us pay for anything, they are proud people.
very proud people, i admire the people of this community for sure, thanks for sharing
90% who say they don't pay actually pay.....😂
What area do you live in brotherrrr
Thank you so much for having the courage to speak the truth as my Thai wife now 8 years she still works hard as pharmacist but every time we visit my home country people still label her as gold digger .My wife has never asked for anything in fact she told me to never speak to her about my finances because she didn’t want me to blame her if there was any gossip.But the other hand I but a down payment on a motorcycle for stepson because he starts University this month and needed it he works part time and will make monthly payments. My stepdaughter desperately needed braces poor girl was ashamed to smile . I pay 1600baht per month to see her smile and it’s worth every baht . The difference is that I choose to help her and the children have a better life and it fills my ❤ with joy
That's appalling, but thanks for sharing. There are plenty of gold digging hoes in the West as well. Bill Burr has one of the funniest comedy rants on RUclips when he talks about an epidemic of gold digging whores. It's worth watching.
Thanks for sharing Frank 🙏
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Wow. You are a super sugar Daddy😂🤣
Good evening from Pattaya. Outside the centre. I'll give you all some facts. I'm waiting for a court verdict today which I am defending my dead father from being ripped off by his Thai x wife. I live in Thailand and have done for 15 years with my English wife. We love it but be aware of the bad side. Do NOT marry any bar girl. And it's not just bar girls. I'd stay away from Pattaya if you are looking for any relationship. Myself I'd forget it. Like the host says what you may think is your girlfriends brother could turn out to be her boyfriend and you are just a cash machine. Maria and Col
Cheers both, hope you are well
Love this content, takes a brave man to constantly tell people the naked truth . Well done mate 🙏🏻
Appreciate it
I read a story about an old farang that spoke to being the family ATM. He agreed that it could be frustrating at times in considering his own self worth with his Missus and her family. This fellow had a bad motorcycle accident and was not his fault but ended up in the hospital with a coma. This fellow stated that he was not insured for whatever reason. When he came out of his coma and was released from the hospital the bill had been paid in full. He asked his wife how she managed to pay the expensive hospital bill and she simply said that the family had sold all of their gold and we're just glad to have him back. He realized that his personal value to his wife was worth all the gold in their world...and not a word on that was ever mentioned. Thai culture is rooted in goodness and acceptance in ways that are not easily identified. He was very grateful for his Thai wife as am I...she is worth every penny but rarely asks me for anything. I don't give out of obligation but out of generosity because paying my good fortune forward makes me feel good. I have the power of my purse, that will never change but I give when I choose to and in turn have changed quite a few lives for the better. Make your choice. Good luck. 🙏
Brilliant - thanks for sharing Chris 👍
If you met her on a dating app, in a beer bar or a gogo, she is on the game and its pretty certain that it will end in tears. learn the language, 2 hours a day minimum until you are fluent. its amazing how much you will learn about people by just overhearing them in conversation.
Nice science fiction story😂
Very well said brother.
@@RandomDude-l5f - funnily enough, some good marriages are made between expats and bar girls. I guess common sense would dictate that relationships with bar girls will usually end in disaster, and we have all heard or read of countless horror stories but sometimes they do work. I even know of two blokes who worked in a different country in S.E. Asia, both graduates with responsible jobs as managers in major companies, who ended up marrying girls who worked in the 'night time entertainment industry.' Their marriages seemed to work. Nevertheless, I like your point about learning the language.
THEY SAY MARRIAGE IS LIKE A TORNADO, IT STARTS WITH LOTS OF SUCKING AND BLOWING, THEN YOU LOSE YOUR HOUSE..❤
That’s great. I never heard that one before.
If you will loose all the money in the west anyway might as well get all the sucking and blowing 😂
Nice one 👌😂😂😂😂😂
I’m currently getting a fence made (welded from steel), car port, shed, concrete drive way.
Paying 300 baht a day for labour, we buy the materials.
Been married for 10 years here. Worked here for 15 years. Retired now to near Laos border.
You only get taken advantage of if you are stupid enough to allow it. You must first assume that everyone around you is evil and out to get you. Then let people slowly earn your trust. And that works in any country.
You're only a walking ATM in Thailand if you allow yourself to become one :)
None of this sounds very appealing to me AT ALL! Moving to a foreign country where you will never be granted citizenship, never be able to own a house, never be able to own any land, never truly know who your friends are, being used by a bunch of people who only want to take your money so they can give it to their family and the list just goes on and on and on... Seriously, this is where the United States just plain gets it wrong because a Thai person can come to America, legally gain US citizenship, buy and legally own homes and land, and they can do that both in the US and in their native country Thailand. However, a US citizen cannot do anything even remotely similar in Thailand, or the Philippines, or about 99% of foreign countries! Again I have to wonder why anyone who is a US citizen by birth would want to live in a country where you basically cannot do anything, when people from those countries can move to your country and get to do everything...
Perhaps due to the history of the people who invaded North America-were all immigrants. So immigration is in the DNA of the USA. It’s very different for a location that’s had very little immigration and where family owned land goes back hundreds of years. In the UK we had an Empire and this has led to the welcoming of people who once showed allegiance to The Crown. Look to history/geography for answers.
I had two close friends put through the ringer by Thai women. One was a colleague and one was a family friend. They both got totally ripped off, lost half their pensions, lost half of their businesses and houses. Catastrophic for them...but it was their own fault. They used the women as sex slaves and house keepers when married and then the tables turned. I'm a woman, so I don't have this problem, but really guys, use your heads and keep your hands firmly on your businesses, wallets and property
What you mean sex slaves and house keepers ? When married aren’t people supposed to have sex and clean their own home? Typical western women
Yes, I was a walking ATM to my Thai wife. It lasted about 6 years and I got tired of always being broke. It was very bad when I put a stop to it and I ended up walking away from her. The marriage was never registered, so there was no divorce involved and I just walked away free. I will never go through that again.
no atm
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Happily married to a lovely Thai lady who works as an executive in the pharma industry, I work in the aquaculture industry as a consultant and a teacher at a private school. I have never given money, instead we talk about where we should invest our money together in many area's outside of Thailand and starting a local business here. The Thai people are lovely and so is her family who also have never asked for money. If you behave like a walking ATM or just stupid, you will be rinsed. Thai women are not stupid and they know the world is changing. The cheeky ones will rinse you if you allow this to happen or continue.
Thanks for sharing - many other subscribers with the same experience 👍
Probably the best video I have watched. Straight up common sense
I live in a rural village in the Buriram area....Ryan is spot on for sure on this one.....Its good to have boundaries socially, mentally, economically anywhere you live.....Thailand non- tourist areas are for pioneers!!! not mongers and old men with small pockets....
have boundaires
@@Rodderz1taam malayaat............but only the wall will teach her the life lesson
@@Rodderz1 No way. Up to you as everyone in Thailand says.....Im just saying if you dont have deep pockets, and you are perhaps old, and dont have vision for yourself the walls will close in on you and nobody wants that feeling when they are basically an alien living on another planet. Im just speaking fro issan village life. Not pattaya, not phuket, not where everything is basically western and sooooo easy....
Thailand as a country has many different sides. But something that I found out lately was the huge number of
narcisissts this country producced. Covert narcissism is very common. Maybe childhood trauma is a part of
this. Thailand is not an equal country for foreigners, we are second or third class persons. As most Asian
countries Thailand policy is clear. We are useful idiots to a system that mainly count abilities in money. Some
Western men think they can use misuse women becuse their inability to love. So they meet mirrored by
themselves these Thai women with the same concept. The image of Thailand and living the illusion is dangerous.
Me and my wife enjoy your videos and I see both sides so I'm not being one sided. I see so many getting ripped off. I do tip thais here but keep it to a minimum. More of a token not to be tight as these thais work long hours for little pay. Maria and Col
I tip in tourist areas, never in my village. Have you ever seem a Thai tip? Maybe the coins up to the next 20 Baht note, in Bangkok
I can't speak for anyone, much like you say, just my personal experience. Few ideas align, don't be the ATM, it is possible. 1st don't put yourself in a situation, learn to say "no", the bad people will talk bad about you either way. As far as a partner, find one that works and support oneself. If she(or he) has a career, even better. Be humble, showing off attracts the wrong attention/people. Keep your nest safe, don't give the keys of the kingdom to anyone. Make sure you are more valuable alive than dead, I'm pragmatic to this level. I had the opportunity to live in few places. I can spend days telling stories about success and failures from every single one. They vary a little depending on the culture or the local economy, but the fundamental factor is always the same. Human beings are the source. Just one practice I do that might help you. I don't tip the delivery people, I give them an annual gift (money) and keep a cordial relationship with them. When you tip often, it becomes an obligation. Cheers!
If I could and had all the money in the world, I would walk Thailand doing for Thai People., I enjoy this. I am of little means but do what I can. So yes, I am a walking atm to Thai people but I pic my moments when I can make a huge impact on a particular Thai person. It maybe a person who struggles to sell small trinkets and is not doing well. It may be a villager who has not had a great meal in a few. I try to be stealth. Don't tell anyone ❤
This is a good point but you are not an ATM - an ATM is used by someone - they are not using you - you are giving from the heart as I also try to do 👍👍👍
I know I tip too much, generally, when in SE Asia, but I seldom see recipients express "entitlement" and expectations of continued generosity. Rather, the typical response is sincere gratitude (something often unseen when in the USA or Europe). Regarding the "Walking ATM" issue, it's human nature almost everywhere to exploit generosity and I did this myself when younger. Just be aware of it and realize those are unhealthy dynamics.
bingo
Great points well made mate. Very logical and born out of real life experience
Using the term "beta male" is definitely looking down on some men, in the sense that it's an insult.
Also, just an FYI, the term comes from discredited science from wolf study that was based entirely on captive wolves. The originator of the term "alpha male" (David Mech), has requested that his book no longer be published because it's incorrect. Anyway, mostly, you are insulting wolves.
Perhaps I can concede my terminology needs a little work - see disclaimers at the start and the end- I use it in a sense of social hierarchies not to offend.
Enjoy your videos fella. You've not only got a hell of a lot of knowledge, life skills and good advice but it's wrapped up in a wider circle of wisdom. Keep doing the great work.Booked for Koh Samui and Bangkok for the first time. Feb. Looking forward to it. 👊👊👊
Appreciate it Lee, have a good one in Feb!
Well said!
you nailed it guru if you are daft enough to act like a walking ATM then they will treat you as that forever theres plenty of nice ladys in Thailand just don't go to the tourist places and i think people don't spend enough time there before jumping into a wedding ring
Cheers Arthur
Good information for people who want listen Ryan . I married a Thai ..good teamwork. Keep up the good work my friend
How not to become a walking ATM in Thailand….dont freakin go 😂😂😂
In Thailand, as it should be anywhere in the world, parting with your money is totally in your own control...other than being a victim of a crime. It's nobodies fault but mine (thank you Zep)...should be your credo to live by. Yes, the bar girls go to a different province to work and tell their families they work in a restaurant, hotel or other morally acceptable job.
I really have no time for all the guys who repeat the tired old clichés about Thailand and Thai women in particular. My wife is 20 years younger than me and so what, we have a great loving relationship. We lived in my condo for 10 years before I built a house and up to that point people just assumed we didn’t have much money. We spent our money on travel, not things, so people couldn't really see it.
After we built the house people thought we were rich and I joked they got it backwards. Before I had no house but I had money, now I have a house but no money because I spent it all. If you lightheartedly avoid discussing money people eventually stop asking. It can be hard for Thai women to deal with the pressure of having a farang husband depending on her social class. I just figured that if people are not embarrassed to ask for money then I don’t see why I should be embarrassed to say no but it is not always that easy for a girl. Just make a joke and move on.
I am sorry if you think I was giving you a hard time about your Thai pronunciation. You are correct that Thais will eventually learn to understand bad pronunciation especially if you can string enough words together to make sentences, which you can. The real problem comes from throwing out a single word with no context and that is where most foreigners are. Still, making the effort to speak Thai better really pays dividends, at least that has been my experience.
Always appreciate the feedback
Dude, marriage is legalized prostitution
interesting take
Thank you for this spot on video, Sir. People forget that most Thai ladies do work, have normal jobs, and do not come from bars or being a freelancer at the tourist areas. I have 14 years of marriage behind me with a Norwegian man, and I still worked most of the time (working as a visa agent when we first met), and contributed to our marriage as much as I could. I never asked for a penny, that was not important for me at all. I can take good care of myself.
I think most Thai ladies looking for a farang, see an opportunity to see more of the world, learn more about other countries` culture, and look for an opportunity to travel. Also, I can confirm that many Thai ladies see Thai husbands as not reliable, the often do not take care of the familiy and kids like foreigners do (and that has nothing to do about money). Thai men are often out drinking with friends, leaving their wives home to take care of the kids. So if anyone wonder what Thai ladies see in a 20+ year older farang husband, well, there is your answer.
Love is also a funny thing, love is not only about those first feelings you get in a relationship, but also about security, sharing our lives, being there for each other, and taking good care of each other. Those first feelings never last anyway, but true love does. I have never loved anyone more than I did with my 21 years older husband. And yes, we found common ground, and had a lot in common. Unfortunately he passed away in 2020, but he was my life, and more.
Thank you for sharing, I dont get many female comments and I am humbled to know that these views are also shared by women.
@@thenakedguru My pleasure. I really enjoy your channel, because you speak the truth from your heart, at least the way you see it. And you are always on point, as I see it. Keep up the good work, Sir 😊
Thank you and condolences on your husband 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you for telling us your story. It was very heart warming. I am sorry for your loss. I hope that you find happiness again.
@@28pbtkh23 Thank you for your kind words 🙏 To be honest, I haven't even dated anyone since. But none of us knows the future, we all deserve happiness 😊
You are a walking ATM anywhere in South East Asia, not just the tourist areas. After 6 years in Thailand and more than 11 years in the Philippines - I can tell you that much. Never buy a property, never lend money, for whatever reason. Always rent (preferably short to mid-term) and always keep your stuff almost packed and ready to go any moment, no relationship is for life (many farangs fail to realize that) . If it's not working just leave or leave her having kids with them is a big no-no
Always be a Cheap Charlie and date only orphans not large family ladies.
30 baht tip for Flash/Kerry? When my leg was broken I was ordering in food all every day. I set the app to automatically tip 5 baht. It's only 5 baht but 3 times a day. I left the setting until my leg healed and I stopped getting delivery. Now I only order in when it's raining, so I feel the tip is well earned.
Yea these guys work hard for nothing
Western guys acted as if this is a big surprise that is happening in Thailand or anywhere else in Southeast Asians. In the US, we have what is referring to as "sugar daddy" where young college girls is dating or going out with rich older guys or married to.
Bingo
One easy fix for the whole problem is this, STAY SINGLE !
Great video. Very funny in places. A few nights ago I was walking down Loi Kroh road in Chiang mai and there was this guy, about early forties, rapping along to some song, thinking he was the bees and clearly thinking that the other three women around him thought he was a cool rapper dude. Even I could tell they were not thinking that. They were thinking ATM.
Im a GOD with bricks...ill bless u if i choose...tk kindness for weakness...well u read revelation...right....
WORSHIP NO ONE
my wife actually calls me her ATM 5555
100%. Opportunity to be scammed is everywhere at all times.
You are "spot on" brother :) Shall we overcome? Or be overcomed?
I’m Thai living in Chicago USA. I make $40k per month doing 4 faceless RUclips channels about finance. My kid’s mother ( black girl ) still thinks I’m an Uber driver. I pick up my 4 year old daughter while driving an old Nissan Versa. And I tell my daughter that my main car is “Grandma’s car”. Also the house I live in is “Grandma’s house”. If my daughter wants something I tell her grandma has all the money. I do all of this to prevent my daughter’s mom from know the truth.
When my daughter turns 18, she will know the truth. Everything that daddy and grandma owns will solely be hers one day. We lied to prevent mommy from stealing what is rightfully hers.
So you are correct sir. You become a walking ATM because of the choices you make. Even here in USA.
6pm cst USA I 22:05 22:05 Asian immigrants coming to USA have a very child like & Buddhist concept of budgeting. They are walking ATM to home country
My Thai wife and I refuse to be the family ATM. Not only that, I said many times to my wife that she has to realize that her parents are not young anymore and their pension is depending on their children. She should talk to her sisters and brother about this and then make clear what everybody can give to the parents. The problem is that she is the youngest and because of that whatever she says is not accepted. She's 50! So the never ending story continues... but still I'm not a walking ATM.
Hello Ryan….. For what is would serve I’d offer that this on-going conversation is well worth exploring for all of us especially those who are looking realistically at the experience in SE Asia and Thailand in particular.
It’s very true. It is so easy to hand over and give money. And it’s so to fall into the trap of look at me I have lots of money. And you become vulnerable. And it doesn’t matter what country you’re in. Many things well said Ryan 👍🙏🙏
Being an ATM (in any country) is up to the guy,I don’t think someone get “brainwashed” going to another country…and eventually become that ATM…😊
If you arrive in the village with your newly minted bar babe who is taking you home to meet the family and you start acting as "The Big I Am", it's only a matter of time before you become "The Big ATM" Next thing you know is a brand new Toyota vigo is expected and then you're off. Thousands know the story. If you have a good woman, and some of them do come from the bar scene, but country life in the village is different from Condo life in Bangkok or Pattaya. Caveat Emptor.
I have been finding out it not necessarily a farang ATM issue. My wife makes 2.1 million baht a year working here in America, she used to get asked all the time for "help". She takes care of her mom and grandpa ect. Thank god she doesn't have any brothers and sisters 555. Cousins, Aunts, Uncles, friends used to ask quite a bit. We budget fairly tightly because of having a mortgage here in the states and building a house in Thailand, meanwhile trying to retire early. Thai people are awesome, dropped my wallet 3 times on the last trip and always had someone running up fast giving it back, twice in BKK and once in the village. Always a heavy tipper on vacation mode, lol. Poor people in Thailand don't have anything close to the west with all the social safety nets such as food stamps, housing, ect. I could go on and on about how Thai people on the average are much less gimme gimme gimme than those in the west.
That it my friend 👍
Oh yeah. There are thousands of people in Britain on welfare and have never worked. Some of these people can get up to £40k a year for just sitting on their backsides. And they're still ungrateful.