@@andjelabozovic7365 I'm assuming Diana's "heart aches" because Jonghyun is gone now. Seeing any clips of him is smile worthy but also really sad at the same time.
Heechul is just telling Taemin to embrace his feminine side because it's part of what makes Heechul popular, too. It's something that one can use to his advantage in the entertainment industry and nothing to be ashamed about. Heechul is the master of feminizing things and it makes him more entertaining to watch and shows how confident he is of himself. He can do this because he is really close with Shinee.
That may be true, but Taemin was also practically hyper feminized by the industry a lot, and from debut at that as well. It makes sense that he would want to show off his more masculine side and image. And even then, the type of image he wants to show is up to him. He can go the hyper masculine route, hyper feminine route or some mix of the two - there's nothing wrong with the image he's been setting up for himself. It's clear Heechul was just poking good fun at Taemin bc they're so close and I think the overall message was meant to be just that, good fun and lighthearted.
i think it was just the running joke in this episode but i saw clips of how ppl treated him bc of his looks while he was a minor. it's disgusting. what taemin and heechul got is the feminine gaze i believe. to me they're soo manly but they got the UMPH u know
This was a time when he had to embrace it in his own way, with people encouraging him to see that it wasn’t something to feel embarrassed about. While it may not have directly influenced him, it eventually helped him understand the context. Look at Taemin now-he’s absolutely extraordinary. Through his music, performances, and personal style, he has fully embraced a gender-fluid identity that effortlessly blends masculine and feminine elements. It’s truly inspiring to witness. I understand the history behind it all, but when it comes to masterpieces, art, and fun shows like this, I prefer to view them separately. At the time, Taemin was still very introverted and carried that mysterious, almost enigmatic vibe, which added to his allure. A joke is a joke, but I guess everyone just has different humor and opinions-and that’s fine, too!
This type of "good-natured" fun borders on harassment or bullying. Given that the industry has feminized his image to benefit the agency, I think he has grown exhausted by such antics. It's interesting how it is fun as long as someone else is the target, Taemin was also targeted because of his youth; he is the maknae of the group. It is time to allow Taemin to grow into his manhood. He is, after all, a 30 year old attractive, heterosexual male. He has outgrown these type pranks. Actually, I think Heechul should share in such good-natured ribbing. He seemed rather comfortable in demonstrating his feminine side. I'm just saying . . . . Peace🥰🥰
Taemin himself has stated his concept and person is more androgyny, and "manhood"? He goes out of his way to break gender norms while being himself. Have you even paid attention to his mv " Advice" where he gives a message of being more than what people expect, more than what the industry tries to define? He is his own unique person, and you can take your "manhood" and shove it. Taemin is Taemin, no matter what other labels people might try to stick to him. Plus, Heechul avoided saying he's not gay because, in his words, he didn't want to hurt gay fans and make it seem wrong. Heechul is naturally a tad feminine while still being plenty "manly", and he's confident in himself enough to act however he feels like. You're putting your own ideas into all of this whereas I'm listing things the artists themselves have said, btw. Go look it up
Guys are who they are. I bet they wouldn’t dare talk to Jimin like this. Duality is guys is beautiful and attractive. I rather take a guy who’s more sweet and sensitive over a toxic masculine asshole who thinks being a man requires masculinity when it doesn’t. Most Kpop idols I watch are feminine and I love it. It’s so different thank American men, it’s refreshing
.... you clearly don't kpop if you dont know Heechul.. Heechul is poking fun at Taemin but Heechul aka Heechul of Super Junior has been feminized and even been feminine through out his career. He embraces it. He's only poking fun at Taemin because as Taemin hyung he knows it annoys him and its good tv.
Yeah they would. Heechul doesn't care. He says whatever is on his mind and he's much older than Jimin. He's a senior and knows a lot about the K Pop groups BTS is no exception. What you have is a fetish for that type. It doesn't mean Jimin is feminine and wants to be seen that way. At the same time, Heehul is the king of femininity within K Pop, knows all the girl group dances, and is friends with a lot of girl groups. He's just teasing Taemin because he does look more feminine and his performances are gender-bending style.
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Jonghyun being supportive of taemin against heechul is everything. My heart aches.
it was just a joke he didnt want to hurt teamin i mean heachul they are close so yeah
@@andjelabozovic7365 I'm assuming Diana's "heart aches" because Jonghyun is gone now. Seeing any clips of him is smile worthy but also really sad at the same time.
Key's laugh is on another level!
Not only laugh, his voice is so damn loud whole day
Heechul was funny . Poor Taemin and Jonghyun was supporting tae❤️
Heechul is just telling Taemin to embrace his feminine side because it's part of what makes Heechul popular, too. It's something that one can use to his advantage in the entertainment industry and nothing to be ashamed about. Heechul is the master of feminizing things and it makes him more entertaining to watch and shows how confident he is of himself. He can do this because he is really close with Shinee.
That may be true, but Taemin was also practically hyper feminized by the industry a lot, and from debut at that as well. It makes sense that he would want to show off his more masculine side and image. And even then, the type of image he wants to show is up to him. He can go the hyper masculine route, hyper feminine route or some mix of the two - there's nothing wrong with the image he's been setting up for himself.
It's clear Heechul was just poking good fun at Taemin bc they're so close and I think the overall message was meant to be just that, good fun and lighthearted.
i think it was just the running joke in this episode but i saw clips of how ppl treated him bc of his looks while he was a minor. it's disgusting. what taemin and heechul got is the feminine gaze i believe. to me they're soo manly but they got the UMPH u know
Any way you look at it, it is still problematic.
This was a time when he had to embrace it in his own way, with people encouraging him to see that it wasn’t something to feel embarrassed about. While it may not have directly influenced him, it eventually helped him understand the context. Look at Taemin now-he’s absolutely extraordinary. Through his music, performances, and personal style, he has fully embraced a gender-fluid identity that effortlessly blends masculine and feminine elements. It’s truly inspiring to witness.
I understand the history behind it all, but when it comes to masterpieces, art, and fun shows like this, I prefer to view them separately. At the time, Taemin was still very introverted and carried that mysterious, almost enigmatic vibe, which added to his allure.
A joke is a joke, but I guess everyone just has different humor and opinions-and that’s fine, too!
Taemin and heechul. 🧡
This guy heechul 😂😂!! I love him for a reason !! But poor taemin ,he is such a baby,I love him more😭😭❤️❤️
I love Taemin & Heechul soooo much ❤
1:59 Heechul’s straight face 💀💀💀
Super Junior & SHINee are so savage to each other, that only can happens because they are close to each other. I love them both :)
Heechul loves teasing taemin hahahahh TAEMIN IS SO TRIGGERED maybe because he hates it hahaha
Ouch HAHAHHAHA that's hurt 😂😂 that's the first time I saw Heechul's face showing he's hurt HAHAHHAA by the way this esp was one of the best 💙
If it wasn't Hee Chul I think I would be really annoyed with this. I'm glad no one else is doing this to Taemin. I know Taemin is Pretty so ok :)
Taemin is really a soft person
I love this so much LOLOL
Oppa 😂
LMAOOOO HEECHUL
Fun heechul😂taemin is really angelic heechul😂❤he is really look like heechul
Cheeky Heechul!
This gives a bit of Whose Line is it Anyway vibes
Poor teamin ❤❤😂
Jonghyun incentivando o taemin a bater do heechul ksksksksksksk
temperamen busuknya taemin akhirnya muncul juga
❤😊😍💖💗💞🥰💝💕
Please where can i found the full programm ??!!
Did anyone noticed? Ho dong showed middle finger.
Heechul Bisa Bisanya Bukain Aibnya Taemin
OMG
This type of "good-natured" fun borders on harassment or bullying. Given that the industry has feminized his image to benefit the agency, I think he has grown exhausted by such antics. It's interesting how it is fun as long as someone else is the target, Taemin was also targeted because of his youth; he is the maknae of the group. It is time to allow Taemin to grow into his manhood. He is, after all, a 30 year old attractive, heterosexual male. He has outgrown these type pranks. Actually, I think Heechul should share in such good-natured ribbing. He seemed rather comfortable in demonstrating his feminine side. I'm just saying . . . . Peace🥰🥰
Taemin himself has stated his concept and person is more androgyny, and "manhood"? He goes out of his way to break gender norms while being himself. Have you even paid attention to his mv " Advice" where he gives a message of being more than what people expect, more than what the industry tries to define? He is his own unique person, and you can take your "manhood" and shove it. Taemin is Taemin, no matter what other labels people might try to stick to him.
Plus, Heechul avoided saying he's not gay because, in his words, he didn't want to hurt gay fans and make it seem wrong. Heechul is naturally a tad feminine while still being plenty "manly", and he's confident in himself enough to act however he feels like. You're putting your own ideas into all of this whereas I'm listing things the artists themselves have said, btw. Go look it up
Guys are who they are. I bet they wouldn’t dare talk to Jimin like this. Duality is guys is beautiful and attractive. I rather take a guy who’s more sweet and sensitive over a toxic masculine asshole who thinks being a man requires masculinity when it doesn’t. Most Kpop idols I watch are feminine and I love it. It’s so different thank American men, it’s refreshing
They were just joking dude
.... you clearly don't kpop if you dont know Heechul.. Heechul is poking fun at Taemin but Heechul aka Heechul of Super Junior has been feminized and even been feminine through out his career. He embraces it. He's only poking fun at Taemin because as Taemin hyung he knows it annoys him and its good tv.
Don't drag Jimin here, what's your point at mentioning him? 🙄
Yeah they would. Heechul doesn't care. He says whatever is on his mind and he's much older than Jimin. He's a senior and knows a lot about the K Pop groups BTS is no exception. What you have is a fetish for that type. It doesn't mean Jimin is feminine and wants to be seen that way. At the same time, Heehul is the king of femininity within K Pop, knows all the girl group dances, and is friends with a lot of girl groups. He's just teasing Taemin because he does look more feminine and his performances are gender-bending style.