I couldn't imagine not having summer vacation during grade school. Just days and days of hanging out with friends and the family vacation, This is when the best memories are made and casual socialization skills are learned.
i think it depends on a number of things like if your family can afford to take you on vacation. like these days unless you are like super rich i cant imagine kids going on a real vacation any time soon. that being said it also depends on how you define family vacation too.
About the whole "studying too much can cause poor health" bit, studies have shown that kids that don't go outside often have much higher rates of nearsightedness, and the rates are highest in countries with more demanding study times, such as parts of east asia.
@@yuyukosfaithfulservant yeah but there's no reason to be all "ok Boomer" I'm not a boomer but being told "okay" with no interest feels terrible. It's unnecessary.
@@yuyukosfaithfulservant why are you so upset at the simple fact that going outside improves physical and mental health? I mean, I'm a neet that never leaves my room and even I can admit it. It can get annoying to be told to go outside all the time when you don't want to but you're taking your frustration out on the wrong people. If you're gonna be angry and upset then direct that energy to effect the change you want to see instead of getting all pissy about it
@FN-1701AgentGodzillaRangerPrime Ω Wait, I'm confused. Did you have assigned reading over the summer? When I went to school (grade school in the 70s and junior high/high school in the 80s), school let out and functionally stopped being any part of my life for the next three months.
@@monicacreator3168 philosophy and history have their uses, but reading is more then just a way to take in facts. Young adult books can teach self acceptance, new cultural viewpoints, about sexuality and even life skills. You dont need to be reading classics or textbooks to learn from a book. I still remember a chapter book I read in elementary school that was talking about a cooking contest. In it the one kid tricked another into adding a TON of salt to his pasta water which instead of helping it boil faster actually hindered the cooking. I to this day remember to add a bit of salt to pasta water because of this.
Here’s what I say When I read a book by my choice it is enjoyable hobby When suddenly someone says I have to read that same book for the entirety and for a period it is no longer a hobby but work
I lived in an urban area growing up. Most of my summer “vacations” were spent on my aunts farm way out in the middle of nowhere. I learned how to milk cows, slop the hogs, bale hay and clean out chicken coups. But the most important thing I learned was not to pee on an electric fence.
Back when I was in school, many old folks told me why they started to get summers off from school was because of disease outbreaks, especially polio during the summer in the cities. Vaccines for polio didn't come out until the mid 1950's and by then, it was traditional to get summers off.
I learned more about interacting, team building, freedom, de-stressing and culture during summer than i ever did during schools. Teachers don't have a monopoly on learning
That's fine when you live in a neighborhood, with other kids around. Try learning social interaction, team building, and culture when you live miles out of town and you're the only kid in a couple mile radius.
@@sophierobinson2738 i have never met someone who lives sooooo far out of town that they had no friends but also went to public school and not homeschool. That said, being on your own does not mean you cant learn things. Like independence and adventure. Or you can go to a sleep-away camp which I wholeheartedly recommend. It is a shame how expensive all camps have gotten tho
I know a couple families who do homeschooling for the entire year. But they don’t do it all day Monday thru Friday. They do it a few hours a week at different times depending on what other things the family is doing. This way, learning becomes integrated into an overall lifestyle rather than being a separate endeavor. This seems to work great for them.
That’s definitely a better way of doing it (especially if the parents have the personality to homeschool + there’s not One Parent (often the mother) trapped in being The Homemaker/Teacher TM.) Unfortunately, I see homeschooling generally used to keep kids indoctrinated in queerphobia, racial microaggressions, utter intolerance of any religion/worldview other than the parents’ narrow brand of christianity, and to keep them “safe” from mandatory vaccines (and le HORROR!! of The Big Bang and Evolution)
I was one of the few farm kids for whom the workload fit the frequently told story. I grew up on a dairy farm and summer time was hay season, so my days for most of summer break were spending a couple hours each morning evening milk and cows and 10-12 hours running a diesel tractor to mow or bale hay. Of course, that's a small niche of overall agriculture
My mum had the same experience. It was very normal to be used as labour in the summer, especially if you lived on a farm. Harvest varies depending on what you grow and there's always animal care to be done.
I had to pick rocks, upper garden was 210ft by 350ft lower garden was 250ft by 400ft this was the canning garden so the foods we put up to eat. Most think this was a selling garden it Was Not, all for use of the household.
in germany, it's three school vacations of about two weeks (christmas-new year, easter, and one in the fall) and one longer summer vacation of 5-6 weeks. the timing is different each year and between states to avoid all of germany trying to travel or find hotels at the same time.
Now that is a good idea. All the British schools have their summer holiday at the same time so everyone without kids tries to avoid summer holidays in that time.
In poland it's simmilar There's a winter 2 week vacation in diffrnent times for diffrent states? counties idk. butr unfortunatly christmas break and summer break is always at the same time a beach is so crowded it unbearable
In the uk, we also get “half term holidays” usually around Halloween, start of Easter and sometime in June. These are only a week off but I feel like it stopped you getting burnt out looking back. Otherwise our actual holidays are 2 weeks for Christmas and Easter then 6 weeks for summer. Unless you’re in higher education where it’s 3-4 months depending when studies end.
It’s already a lot on kids to go to school seven hours a day with two hours of homework/extracurriculars. Going year round would be absolute hell, just let them have that break people, they’re children.
I really hate the term "year round." As noted, kids spend the same amount of time in class. However, and this is a big however, "year round" kids and teachers are just hyper stressed out all the time because they don't have a chance to unwind. They get the same holidays, but its just micro breaks in between more school. By the time they get any distance from school, it's right back at it, so they never get a chance to unwind. It'd be like still getting an hour off during the word day, but spreading that out into few minute chunks instead of getting time to eat and decompress. Of course, then there's the 7 hours a day problem. I get that school acts as daycare for basically all families, but holy shit. When do kids get to be kids? They spend literally 12 years (of a 17 or so year life) and most of the waking hours of those 12 years in kid prison. No wonder people are so screwed up.
@Sambhav Mathur India produces intelligent people *despite* its absolutely horrible education system, not because of it. Communism didn't work in China either, it resulted in ~50 million dead people. The PRC only survived because of its combination of economic liberalization and crushing dissidents; while Gorbachev let the Berlin wall fall, Deng Xiaoping massacred his own citizens with tanks. In most of the world, the education systems are simply broken and are causing too much mental damage to their students. This has led to them developing all kinds of mental illnesses. Do you think humans have evolved to take these levels of mental stresses early in their life?
At least in the US, school isn't about learning; it's about indoctrination. They don't teach to learn, they teach for rote memorization and far too heavy work ethic, because kids are pushed into working way harder and way longer than is good for them, and all for little to no reward, which is what companies want in their -wage slaves- employees.
@@Lycanthromancer1 I remember watching a german lets call it documentary about a german girl doing a year long student exchange and was amused how easy school was in Texas.
@@mrn234 Depends on when the events took place and where they took place. Some schools require 6+ hours of homework every night (sometimes as much as 8-10), which, combined with 7-8 hours of school per day, mandatory after-school activities, and prep and travel time for both, doesn't leave enough time to eat and sleep, let alone things like friends and hobbies.
@@mrn234 Thats Texas, I live in Massachusetts, which has the "best school systems" which are actually much harder than other states, I had a friend move to Arizona all the way back in I believe 5th grade, and I remember calling him and him telling me that he already learned everything being taught the grade before or something like that, so it all depends on the state, and the school, and the teachers.
Its 16 weeks only for the first 4 years. After that it becomes 14 for the next 3 years and drops further to 11 for the last 5 with the exception of the last year which ends earlier.
@@rssl5500 Wait until you learn you need to go to school on Saturday. In the end the amount of school days per year must still be roughly the same for every European country.
Summer vacation in highschool in Bulgaria starts from the 1st of July and goes on to the 15th of September. That's 2 months and a half or roughly 10 weeks of summer vacation. School days are from Monday to Friday and either from 7:30 to around 13:15 or from 13:30 until 7:15(this depends on how many classes you have in a particular day).
School would be LESS hell if summer vacation was shorter BUT it was compensated for by year-round three-day weekends and a removal of most forms of homework. Summer vacation devastates what you learn in the second semester, and means so much time gets used in the first semester of the next school year to *just catch up.*
@@Hjernespreng school already fucks with every night owl personality by virtue of starting ridiculously early. More and shorter school days would be heaven for everyone deprived of his natural sleep cycle currently. Shorter holidays, and shorter school days starting later. With 11 to 5 you still have 6 hours per day, so you'll need about 33% more days, so 240 days a year give or take. Imo would be much less exhausting than those 8 hour days that exhaust and turn school into a burden. Nowadays it's 8 hours and you can reasonably expect another 1-2 hours of homework. How can kids not be disgusted and utterly crushed by this? I know I was. It's truly soul crushing to have 4 days of a week consisting of eating, school, homework and sleep, with a small reprieve on Wednesday and the weekend to actually live a little. Many just give up on school and fail all the way up to their 18th birthday when they can just get out of that system.
Most of the places that adopted year-round school are in hotter parts of the country, the northern tier of states mostly never did because of the expense of retrofitting air conditioning into all those school buildings.
Yea. I went to elementary school in New Jersey back in the 1980s. The three-floor school I attended was built in 1916. If the temperature went above 90 degrees, school was usually cancelled or students were dismissed early (Of course, the principal's office had an air conditioner in his window). The school wasn't retrofitted for air conditioning until the mid 1990s.
Good point, only my high school had air conditioning. My elementary and middle school didn’t and when it got really hot we would just watch movies because it was impossible to think.
So true!!!! I’m in what’s considered a mild climate, but really the “mild” only applies to the winters…. There’s no air conditioning in almost all of the classrooms still. And our hottest months are September and October. Classrooms get to near 88°, fans don’t really do much except create extra noise and masks are still required anyway so let’s just say it’s not exactly an ideal learning environment. I’m not saying virtual learning was better, obviously it doesn’t work for many, but at least students could heat and be heard over fans and open door noise. We just need air-conditioning! And not to some greedy ridiculous 73° thing like the corporate offices, retail stores, and the district offices do, I’m talking just to keep it down to about 78 or 79 and that would be a good start!
I always thought it had to do with the lack of air conditioning in the schools, which means a hot building where the kids will all get sleepy and not learn well.
I think there's truth to that, especially in the North where it would be an absurd expense to put air conditioning in buildings when it would only be necessary for 60 days a year. I'm assuming schools in the South have AC, as it would be neccessary in the spring and fall as well. I could be wrong, I've never gone to school in the south, but I know here there's no AC in schools, at least there wasn't when I was young.
@@jasonlarsen4945 with the south you mean south america? if thats the case i can completely confirm that there is in fact no AC in schools, only in the expensive ones. and if youre refering to africa, then i think the answer is obvious
@@jasonlarsen4945 it was customary over a half century before the concept of AC existed. My 1926 HS in the very hot central Gulf Coast didn't get air conditioned till the 1990s. We started school in early August to try to beat the standardized tests given the day after Labor Day, originally meant to test lasting knowledge. Never underestimate how much suffering government drones will impose on people to cheat a government test.
Summer vacation for schools was well established by the late 1800s. Air conditioning for buildings in the US arrived in the early 1900s in movie theaters. Air conditioning didn't become common in homes, cars, schools, and factories until the last part of the 20th century. For example: I had a summer job in a curtain factory one year in the late 1960s. The factory building was brand new, the offices and cafeteria were air conditioned. The factory portion was not! (And the equipment wasn't new either.) None of the schools I attended for Elementary through High School (1950s -1960s) had air conditioning.
@@mrio4722 Jason is referring to Southern states in the US. States like the Carolinas, Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana, etc. He isn't referring to South America or Africa. This video is about school calendars in the US only.
In Norway we have 25 days off we can take whenever we want, and if you don't have a job that is required to make society function(doctors, Police, etc)you also have Sundays off.
On the fears of teachers having to reteach stuff after summer break, I'll tell ya, I never learned the damn thing in the first place. I firmly believe in education reform and summer break has nothing to do with our problems there.
Ye tbh whenever I fully understood a concept, i might be a little rusty after a long summer break, but it really doesn’t take long to get back into it. If you need to reteach the whole thing, it’s cause it wasn’t understood in the first place.
The teachers in the US are under paid, under funded, and over worked. The sad part is most go in with noble intentions, but then release they're basically just getting a service and hospitality job that requires a college degree. Honestly if more schools adopted STEAM, science technology engineering art and math, as the core of their curriculum more people would be able to go out with a trades degree.
@@KRYMauL an art degree is pretty useless most of the time,a math degree,science degree,and Engineering degree however are more like accomplishments because you somehow survived it.
Tbh I get a little rusty with my knowledge that I've learned in the year, but it's not like you forget everything you've learned. Plus there are still other ways to stimulate your brain and gain knowledge during the summer. You can work on projects, read, go to summer school, practice your math, and so on.
The only way to ascertain a diploma from "school X" is worth the paper it's printed on. Your airline pilot has to pass a practical test; they don't just "take the school's word for it" that he's competent: _why not everyone else?_
Some of us didn't stop reading in summer break. For example my Catholic high school - my first freshman year that early summer they gave us a bag full of books. I loved that. And to this day they still encourage reading. Imagine. And did it cut into my summer - sure but I still had my bicycle went all over the place and had fun.
In elementary school, I had a year round schedule. My family enjoyed it, since we were able to take vacation during off season in places like national parks and major cities. Plus, we could stay longer in México with my grandparents during Christmas, New Year, and Los Reyes Santos.
I'm from Germany and I have 6 weeks of summer break, 2 weeks in fall, 2 weeks in winter and 2 weeks in spring. I personally like it more than having one giant break in summer.
@@TheHorseOutside same in Argentina, we get 3 months in summer, 2 weeks in winter, and nothing else ); Summer gets incredibly boring after a couple of weeks to be honest haha, and then there’s no more rest in the whole year (except for those miserable 2 weeks in winter) And our Christmas/new year is in the beginning of the summer holidays so no luck there either.
I have advocated for this very thing in the US for decades. In the southern US summers are not pleasant so why not let us have extended freedom in fall and spring, the best times of the year. The other reason for year-round with frequent long breaks is for the working parents. It's easier to find child care for one to two weeks throughout the year than three months all summer long. You can hit up two sets of grandparents for visiting or other relatives or friends to watch over your kids for this shorter amount of time. This is not to mention more time and opportunities for teachers to decompress.
@Agastya Rana yes but it’s like saying Christmas or New Year’s Eve are an American tradition, it doesn’t really take a lot of research to know those are world wide “traditions”. Summer holidays are a thing in like 90% of countries, not really American culture lol Fast food is part of American culture for example, bc it originated there and Americans love it, there’s fast food chains in other countries but they are like Italian restaurants in New York, “American cuisine”
@@xChaoticSlick is breathing also part of American culture? Drinking water? Going to school? Getting into debt to study in university or go to the hospital? Oh wait… those 2 are actually an American thing, I almost forgot!
5 hours a day is normal, but I usually went to schools from 6 hours a day 5 days a week. So, it's the same amount just plus or minus and hour, also we have homework that in order to get an A on you have to up until 12 working constantly at.
As one who worked summers on the family farm, I can guarantee that the period between spring planting and fall harvesting was anything but idle. I was always grateful when school re-opened each fall.
While summer slide may not be real, year round poverty very much is. A lot of people dont realize that for many poor families, free and reduced school lunches are after the only meal kids get that day. During the summer's, families struggle to put more food on the table and teachers take from their own paychecks to provide snacks for their kids during the summer. Source: my mother is a teacher in a school. Every day kids beg her for snacks before lunch because they havent eaten in 24 hours and she is constantly referring parents to programs that help feed kids over the breaks. Having shorter breaks throughout the year puts less strain on parents, children, and child care.
@@Space_and_history Why the fuck would you make that assumption? Poverty is a real problem in every country, and parents struggling to feed schoolchildren isn’t exclusive to one country
part of the reason they struggle is to pay for the school & teacher and their car and their expenses . there are countries that take there kids away and throw the parents in jail ill bet most of those parents have a nice car cell phone and time to paint there fingernails .
@@r5t6y7u8 It could be that the parents were more financially stable when they first had the baby, but then lost a job or developed health conditions that keeps them from working, and they became poor that way. Plus either way, the kids shouldn't have to suffer even if the parents were just foolish.
In india till few decades back there were 'harvesting holidays', when govt changed the schedule....school attendance actually dropped during harvesting season in rural india, this is a thing of past now due to more and more automation
Same in Argentina, we just have summer holidays (about 3 months) and then winter break (2 weeks). And that’s it. In Easter we get to days of holidays (Thursday and Friday), so many take it as a short vacation and travel, but they are just 4 miserable days lol.
If you want a better education system give kids a say in what they get to learn at a younger age and cut out the bull shit cources and excess amount of hw
Huh. When I was in high school, only a couple years ago, I remember that a bunch of my peers strongly believed that we should have year-round school in the US. I think it had more to do with having breaks distributed better throughout the year (as in not having to go to school for such long stretches of time) than anything else. I'm pretty sure a lot of the argument had to do with mental health, which to me made a lot of sense.
Have to let kids know that once you become an adult, you only get a week of summer break, and that's if middle management finds it favorable to approve 42 hours of PTO. Some managers are ok with it and wont make employee decisions based on it. Others aren't and will brand you as lazy if you dare to ask. This often impacts when kids actually have vacations, because let's face it, which company is going to approve more than a week off for the parents if there is no medical emergency ?
@@maltehoffmann3621 6 weeks of vacation without a medical emergency is a great way to get fired, unless of course you have your own business or work in the Education sector.
@@maltehoffmann3621 only if you’re a teacher. That’s about the only profession in the US where you get the entire summer off like that. It’s a cultural thing in the US. Some people think we’d be better off if people were just cogs in the machine and interchangeable like that, but we’re not. We don’t have people take large amounts of vacation at one time here because somebody has to backfill their position while they’re gone…And that’s difficult to do, Especially because somebody else has to literally learn how to do your job and once they know how to do that job they can potentially wind up in HR arguing that they do your job better than you and you get laid off.
I still remember going back to school (in India) and then realising that I had apparently forgotten how to articulate and write words in my handwriting, because of the long summer break and lack of practice. I would much prefer Germany's way of 2-weeks once in a while instead of a long haul....
Don't know which part of India you come from, but where I come from, even adults die of heat stroke during the month of May if they go out any time after early morning and before evening, without proper care. The reason we have long summer breaks in India, is because in most parts of the country, summers are hot enough to kill.
Growing up poor, summer was hard. When I was too young to supervise my younger siblings, it meant mom quitting her job and hoping she had managed to save enough to pay rent until we went back to school and she could get a new job. It meant hot days in southwest Florida with no AC, no pool, no gas money to go to the beach.
Long holidays and time out of school are terrible for people without optimal home life. My family had raging narcissists, those tantrums that would last hours and days, and when was their hilight? Weekends and holidays of course
Some of the smartest people I ever knew went to a one room schoolhouse. When they started in the first grade they also heard what the eighth grade kids were learning. By the time they finished the eighth grade they knew the material. The parents were involved in what was being taught. The community also built and took care of the schoolhouse. But farm kids tended to be resourceful. They learned to make something out of nothing. Farm kids often missed school however if they were needed on the farm, but there was never any shortage of work to be done on a farm especially with livestock, dairies in particular.
Here in Germany we have 6 free weeks in the summer and 1 or 2 week holidays in fall, christmas, winter, easter and pentecost. So it's more equally distributed over the year which I find better. I couldn't have imagined to go to school for the entire year with only a few free days inbetween.
When I look back over the years starting school was the best thing ever. Getting to know new friends year by year. Now it's been 23 years. Since I graduated from high school. I sure miss those years
Kids in 19th century Europe had "summer break" long before there were private farms in the U.S., i.e. during the Austro-Hungarian Empire, so the argument about "helping parents on their farms" would make zero sense regardless.
@@krybling America was a long time the West India Company with only colonies in the East Coast. Back then the Land was cultivated by native Americans and spanish people
@@krybling Uhm bro the Native Americans had private farms and some of those Native Americans sold those goods in cities because they lived in the suburbs.
Summer breaks are needed so we can take a break from being talked at for 6-7 hours every day, only to do 2 hours of bs when we get home. Edit: If school ain’t a place to sleep, home isn’t the place to do work.
Hahahahaha. Enjoy it while you can! Being an adult is harder, and takes longer every day. Being in school is piss easy. Adults don't get the summer off. Most only get 30 days of holiday. Except Americans who mostly get only get 14.
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Growing up in the 1950,s and 60,s I learned far more in the 3 months of Summer than during those 9 months I was cooped up in s classroom where the lessons were repititous and full, boring and mind befogging. As a free_range kid, I read widely on a variety of subjects, investigated Nature, collected fossils, observed the maturation process of frogs. My mother and aunts taught me to cook and sew, a regular Home Economics course.I had a mighty full plate.
Well in England we have a 6 week summer with 2 week breaks twice a year at Easter and Christmas, and 3 one week breaks in the middle of each term- so I guess you could call that a year round school.
I can't imagine you looked at the idea of summers off, and didn't consider air conditioning. None of the schools I went to in the 80s and 90s had it. People in the cities used to spend their summers at resorts to escape the heat, just like in the movie "Dirty Dancing". In Chicago, rich people would even sleep on the beach. In most of the country, I think after a few days of heat the students and teachers would be begging to work on a farm.
Year round school benefits single parent families and the poorer working class, as child care is a constant challenge/cost that a long summer makes that much harder (lack of free summer activities, especially for younger children). Year round school for k-5 especially would help those families. Alternatively, free summer programs for that age group could be a better solution.
Actually, these are still less than 104 days. The 104 is because that's the amount of episodes the creator thought Disney will allow him to make - you can look it up online
School should not be mandatory it should be an privilege , for example It should be the Child's decision to decide if he or she wants to go to School or not.
@@dinosaurus598 no i think 8 grades (from 6-7 yrs old) should be mandatory, to give insight into basic subjects and then you choose from there because you're 14-15 and have your own opinion.
When I was growing up every kid couldn't wait for summer vacation (and most teachers, too). Back then we never had to do any kind of homework or read books and hand in essays. Now, most schools require them, but not a whole lot of kids do them. I would force my kids to do them every summer, and it seemed there were very few kids who would hand them over at the beginning of each new school year. If anything, each teacher would be shocked when they did get them. My kids hated having to do them, but now that they're grown they are grateful for it.
I’m just tired of trying to go on vacation at the same time as everyone else in America - it’s always too damn crowded! I’m all for staggering a version of year-round school, as I see people staggering their vacations as a consequence, which would (hopefully) reduce the mad rush. It could even things out across the board, if that makes sense.
I'm Australian, and the school year here is about 200 days. Four terms of about 10 weeks each, with a two week gap between most terms, and a roughly 6 week break for Christmas+summer marking the start/end of the school year (which matches the calendar year here). I think it works pretty well, but I don't exactly have experience with anything else.
Large theme park and summer resort areas also have an effect on when summer starts. High schoolers are cheap labor and not having school bus traffic helps as well.
As a kid it was always my understanding that spring break was created for farmers so that they’re kids could come home to plant. I never heard that about summer I always just assumed summer vacation was rooted in a lack of air conditioning
In the sixties my primary school in Florida allowed reps from "tobacco camp" to present about their program near the end of the school year. It was for 6th graders; you went to Connecticut and picked tobacco. One of the attractions:.you could smoke all you wanted.
I like the way it's done here in Japan, most students join some club or activity after school. So you will see kids coming home from school around 6 or 8pm. It's not year round but it keeps them busy and always learning.
It's very unhealthy and not good for their psycho-social development at all. This way of life is very closely linked to the catastrophic suicide rates.
@@seresimarta4436 I would like my school was like this back my days. instead I was forced to do some sport that I don't have skill 2x per week and being all day studying in afternoon and night classes. Would be nice to have some choice in what activity I was doing backed by the school.
@@deco90014 I think you misunderstood "club". It's not something they do for the fun, it's something parents choose for them to prepare the kids' future professional success.
@@victordeluca7360 I don't think any healthy child would choose to arrive home every day at 6 or 8 pm. It's very hard even for an adult. Kids' brain desperately needs unstructured time when they can be creative, find out how to beat boredom, socialise with friends without adult supervision etc. Structuring kids' time so excessively makes them socially and emotionally impaired. When kids play with the box instead of the toy, stare out of the window with no apparent reason etc their activity may seem useless to adults, but it's very important for the development of their brain. They have to learn how to find out things, how to invent games, how to make friends without being told by an adult what to do.
I am wondering about the drawbacks of our current system, with long summers off, how does that affect disadvantaged youth? During the summer, who watches the kids? Who provides them food? I’m curious to know if the long summers off create more harm than good in low income families. Would love a video going into those aspects
By the time I was in Highschool... Our breaks from school wasn't about the study (If anything... Studying was never an issue to me) it was about dealing with Social problems that us Teens were developing that made it the hardest about school as a whole. When you did your study, You had more opportunities to expand your intelligence and in a secluded environment, Athletics were a way to not only increase coordination, strength, and the best extracurricular activity, but built your confidence. The summer breaks were necessary for our brain development to just unwind and start fresh before going back to in a few months.
I tell you, when I was a kid growing up, I cherished my summer vacations like a miser with a gold mine. Not even Christmas gave me a greater feeling of fully satisfied anticipation than the first week of June when school was out, and nothing filled me with greater resentment than when back to school in the fall. Well of course, I detested school, and I paid the price for never going to college and having to work in factory jobs for peanut wages all of my life, but I still in all my heart, cherish those wonderful days of my most memorable summer vacations
In the agricultural part of the south (Alabama especially) school was the summer (3 months). Children growing up need a long break or they burn out going 12 months. When I was young I couldn't wait until summer, and I was happy when school came again.
Very interesting... Our education system is something that very much concerns me. We have children graduating from high school who cannot write a proper sentence. I know because I tutored some of them when I was in college.
The schools I went to were too worried about standardized testing. I honestly learned more after high school actually being out in the real world. Schools need to teach basic trades that would make life alot better for everyone. There is more than just college and test scores in the real world. I will never forget when the guidance counselor told me I was going to drive a dump truck for the rest of my life because I didn't know what I was going to study in college.
My ideal school calendar: Classes on Mon-Thu First day of 1st term: November 1 Last day of 1st term: March 25 Spring Vacation: March 26 - May 4 (40 days) First day of 2nd term: May 5 Last day of 2nd term: September 4 Autumn Vacation: September 5 - October 31 (36 days) This still gives about 180 days per year, but it's a 4-day week, and there are still 2 longish breaks. And those breaks are when it's actually pleasant to be outside.
Someone asked once when I was in high school "If we go to school year round, would be graduate high school when we're 12?" That would be interesting, you get an extra school year for every 3 summer vacations you wouldn't take, so four more years, when you're 14
I have never heard someone say summerbreak was for harvesting and I live in NY (not NYC). However, there are plenty of summer crops. Beans, Celery (cold climates), Corn, Cucumbers, Edamame, Eggplant, Muskmelons, Okra, Peppers, Pumpkins, Squash, Sweet potato (needs long, hot, frost-free season), Tomatillo, Tomato, Watermelon, Zucchini, Herbs (annual), Basil all harvested in summer and into the fall. Plus, Turnip ― Where winters are cold like NY, plant in early spring for summer harvest.They also would have needed manual field and crop care. They all have time to be dried or canned for winter storage and many "winter" variety squashes will hold up just with a cool dry area. Considering many boys had their own trial plot of land before 16 before the industrial revoultion and their parents allowed then the chance to sink or swim on their own. Until the government forced parents under threat of punishment it wasn't felt nevessary once the kids learned basic reading and arithmetic. They could work for everything else. I hate to say this but by your own video the school breaks in a lot of places coinsided with planting and havest. Then nobody would show up unless the could... Hum... Well, why couldn't they? Summer was really agreed upon because it's hot and it's hard to get adults to focus when its hot at the time there was not air conditioning so a school of unfocused hot kids will not learn anything and will resort to mischief. Plus, the farming communities would be happy so they could force the most kids to go to school at a given time and still make it feel like they compromised. It was not some rich people vacation thing. The rich could vacation whenever they felt just like they do now. 🙄🙄🙄🙄 Research anyone... Research.
As someone who grew up with year-round school I preferred it. Not due to any learning factors, but because I lived far away from any friends and while I enjoyed the break I missed the social element of school. Right around when I started getting bored school was back in session.
In Poland school starts at 1st September, the first break is for All Saint's Day (1st November) and the day after. Next we have Christmas break from 22-23rd December to New Year. Then 6th January is free and 2-week winter break (the date depends on voivodeship you have school in, so hotels and resorts don't experience a siege. A bit more than a week of Easter break. Then if you're lucky you can score 5 days off with 1st, 2nd and 3rd of May, if 3rd lands on Friday. Summer break ranges from the end of June to 1st September, when school starts again.
Dang, surprised that teachers don’t teach this. You would think they do EDIT: Idk teachers tend to teach random fun facts, at least from my experience. I also wrote that when I woke up, so yeah, that also comes into play
ummm.... you do realize there is more to farming other than plant and harvest right??? if you never had to do anything in between then everyone would have their own farm if it was just planting and forgetting it until fall... "facepalm"
Plenty of fruit and veg needs picked over summer. Potatoes get picked twice a year, July and September for example. Hay and silage is definitely summer.
I worked with a lady who must have been one of the last kids whose families from the Eastend of London spent a week in Kent to harvest hops. It was their only 'holiday'. The first job was to find which hut you were put in and then fill a long sack to make your palliasse to sleep on. She said they worked hard but had fun in the evenings, making music and other entertainments
I couldn't imagine not having summer vacation during grade school. Just days and days of hanging out with friends and the family vacation, This is when the best memories are made and casual socialization skills are learned.
I still have a hard time letting go after a decade.... good times.
AC got it right
I now know why I lack socialization skills.
i think it depends on a number of things like if your family can afford to take you on vacation. like these days unless you are like super rich i cant imagine kids going on a real vacation any time soon. that being said it also depends on how you define family vacation too.
Not to mention the great times in summer camps
Here's a Mark Twain quote he really said:
"I never let my schooling interfere with my education."
"I won't let my pilot interfere with my flight"
@@helloprincess8922 not an equivalent analogy.
@@abhijithcpreej "I wont let my diet interfere with my nutrition." ?
ah, you see the difference between the two is that with one you’re _forced_ to learn, where with the other you _want_ to learn 🥴
@@CeroSect well I’m forced to have a pilot but I don’t want to
Checkmate
About the whole "studying too much can cause poor health" bit, studies have shown that kids that don't go outside often have much higher rates of nearsightedness, and the rates are highest in countries with more demanding study times, such as parts of east asia.
ok boomer
@@yuyukosfaithfulservant it's a fact tho
@@mom69yearsago85 idc boomers always be like "kIdS sHoUlD gO oUtSiDe"
@@yuyukosfaithfulservant yeah but there's no reason to be all "ok Boomer"
I'm not a boomer but being told "okay" with no interest feels terrible. It's unnecessary.
@@yuyukosfaithfulservant why are you so upset at the simple fact that going outside improves physical and mental health? I mean, I'm a neet that never leaves my room and even I can admit it.
It can get annoying to be told to go outside all the time when you don't want to but you're taking your frustration out on the wrong people. If you're gonna be angry and upset then direct that energy to effect the change you want to see instead of getting all pissy about it
Can we extend the summer breaks into adulthood? That’d be great 👍
Europeans, please don’t break it to him.
France gets a few months off per year. The labor union there is strong
@@jeffreysnyder290 it doesn’t surprise me that other countries do this. Most 1st world countries don’t treat the working class like shit
If you become a teacher you can!
@@beckerderbacker4976 Not exactly since school still drops a shitton of work on them that will take 1.5 mouth.
"If you study too much, you'll grow up puny, lank, pallid, emaciated, round-shouldered, thin-breasted."
"I studied too much."
Even tho I'm stupid af, I look like this too
Sounds like I didn't study enough lmao
I do study a lot but Im not thin breasted
@@user-vw2bn6qi2l what is supersymmetry then?
@@anotherrandominternetguy404 Studied too much games.
Growing up I probably read more in the three months of summer than I did in the entire school year.
But what did you read? Harry Potter or philosophy? Twilight or historical telling?
The quality of the book matters too
@FN-1701AgentGodzillaRangerPrime Ω Wait, I'm confused. Did you have assigned reading over the summer? When I went to school (grade school in the 70s and junior high/high school in the 80s), school let out and functionally stopped being any part of my life for the next three months.
@@monicacreator3168 philosophy and history have their uses, but reading is more then just a way to take in facts. Young adult books can teach self acceptance, new cultural viewpoints, about sexuality and even life skills. You dont need to be reading classics or textbooks to learn from a book.
I still remember a chapter book I read in elementary school that was talking about a cooking contest. In it the one kid tricked another into adding a TON of salt to his pasta water which instead of helping it boil faster actually hindered the cooking. I to this day remember to add a bit of salt to pasta water because of this.
Here’s what I say
When I read a book by my choice it is enjoyable hobby
When suddenly someone says I have to read that same book for the entirety and for a period it is no longer a hobby but work
It depends on your home life though too.
I lived in an urban area growing up. Most of my summer “vacations” were spent on my aunts farm way out in the middle of nowhere. I learned how to milk cows, slop the hogs, bale hay and clean out chicken coups. But the most important thing I learned was not to pee on an electric fence.
…what’s the backstory to that, im scared
Important skills.
Real life applicable skills right there!
Sounds like a shocking experience.
Don't Pee On The Electric Fence!
I learned that from a cartoon.
Back when I was in school, many old folks told me why they started to get summers off from school was because of disease outbreaks, especially polio during the summer in the cities. Vaccines for polio didn't come out until the mid 1950's and by then, it was traditional to get summers off.
I learned more about interacting, team building, freedom, de-stressing and culture during summer than i ever did during schools. Teachers don't have a monopoly on learning
Summertime was for my projects. I learned so much back then!
@@ContentConfessional but that is what year round schools advocates are pushing for.
That's fine when you live in a neighborhood, with other kids around. Try learning social interaction, team building, and culture when you live miles out of town and you're the only kid in a couple mile radius.
And that right there is exactly what any teacher will tell you
@@sophierobinson2738 i have never met someone who lives sooooo far out of town that they had no friends but also went to public school and not homeschool. That said, being on your own does not mean you cant learn things. Like independence and adventure.
Or you can go to a sleep-away camp which I wholeheartedly recommend. It is a shame how expensive all camps have gotten tho
Meanwhile in some Asian nations, “what do you mean you don’t go to school on Saturday?”
Sounds like a lot of stress 👀
Being an Indian i can say that, yeah we have to go school on Saturdays but it's usually half day...so not as cruel😅
And then people write "Omg I wanna be in a Japanese school so badly"
that's horrible just to think about
No, we go to tutoring school everyday all year round🥲.
School killed any want I had for learning. Once I got out, and could choose, that's when I liked it.
One of the best arguments for homeschooling!
I guess it didn’t kill it, because you love learning 😂
I know a couple families who do homeschooling for the entire year. But they don’t do it all day Monday thru Friday. They do it a few hours a week at different times depending on what other things the family is doing. This way, learning becomes integrated into an overall lifestyle rather than being a separate endeavor. This seems to work great for them.
This is what I would do if I could actually afford to have kids
That’s definitely a better way of doing it (especially if the parents have the personality to homeschool + there’s not One Parent (often the mother) trapped in being The Homemaker/Teacher TM.)
Unfortunately, I see homeschooling generally used to keep kids indoctrinated in queerphobia, racial microaggressions, utter intolerance of any religion/worldview other than the parents’ narrow brand of christianity, and to keep them “safe” from mandatory vaccines (and le HORROR!! of The Big Bang and Evolution)
I was one of the few farm kids for whom the workload fit the frequently told story. I grew up on a dairy farm and summer time was hay season, so my days for most of summer break were spending a couple hours each morning evening milk and cows and 10-12 hours running a diesel tractor to mow or bale hay. Of course, that's a small niche of overall agriculture
Same with me.
In the province where I grew up, kids in some farming counties went back to school in mid August so schools could close for two weeks at harvest time.
I feel so sorry for you kids should never have to work that includes farmers
My mum had the same experience. It was very normal to be used as labour in the summer, especially if you lived on a farm. Harvest varies depending on what you grow and there's always animal care to be done.
I had to pick rocks, upper garden was 210ft by 350ft lower garden was 250ft by 400ft this was the canning garden so the foods we put up to eat. Most think this was a selling garden it Was Not, all for use of the household.
in germany, it's three school vacations of about two weeks (christmas-new year, easter, and one in the fall) and one longer summer vacation of 5-6 weeks. the timing is different each year and between states to avoid all of germany trying to travel or find hotels at the same time.
Now that is a good idea. All the British schools have their summer holiday at the same time so everyone without kids tries to avoid summer holidays in that time.
Imagine all germans (with kids) going to france and italy at the same time 🤯
Same story in Scotland, but some areas have the holidays start a week earlier or later than others
Same story in Scotland, but some areas have the holidays start a week earlier or later than others
In poland it's simmilar There's a winter 2 week vacation in diffrnent times for diffrent states? counties idk. butr unfortunatly christmas break and summer break is always at the same time a beach is so crowded it unbearable
In the uk, we also get “half term holidays” usually around Halloween, start of Easter and sometime in June. These are only a week off but I feel like it stopped you getting burnt out looking back. Otherwise our actual holidays are 2 weeks for Christmas and Easter then 6 weeks for summer. Unless you’re in higher education where it’s 3-4 months depending when studies end.
It’s already a lot on kids to go to school seven hours a day with two hours of homework/extracurriculars. Going year round would be absolute hell, just let them have that break people, they’re children.
I really hate the term "year round." As noted, kids spend the same amount of time in class. However, and this is a big however, "year round" kids and teachers are just hyper stressed out all the time because they don't have a chance to unwind. They get the same holidays, but its just micro breaks in between more school. By the time they get any distance from school, it's right back at it, so they never get a chance to unwind. It'd be like still getting an hour off during the word day, but spreading that out into few minute chunks instead of getting time to eat and decompress.
Of course, then there's the 7 hours a day problem. I get that school acts as daycare for basically all families, but holy shit. When do kids get to be kids? They spend literally 12 years (of a 17 or so year life) and most of the waking hours of those 12 years in kid prison. No wonder people are so screwed up.
@John Doe i agree they should also teach how to survive life and know ur way around and not stuff that not only wastes time but is a mental toll
@Sambhav Mathur India produces intelligent people *despite* its absolutely horrible education system, not because of it.
Communism didn't work in China either, it resulted in ~50 million dead people. The PRC only survived because of its combination of economic liberalization and crushing dissidents; while Gorbachev let the Berlin wall fall, Deng Xiaoping massacred his own citizens with tanks.
In most of the world, the education systems are simply broken and are causing too much mental damage to their students. This has led to them developing all kinds of mental illnesses.
Do you think humans have evolved to take these levels of mental stresses early in their life?
I'll never forget going from 6 weeks off in summer in England, then 3 months off when we moved to Ireland!
Maybe you could repay us with a certain few counties...
@@TheHorseOutside "They're not having them back!" Well that's what they said about the loot that was nicked from India. ;)
How old are you?!
@@Manowar458 me? 38.
@Safwaan idk
I have a feeling building a rocket or fighting a mummy were not the reason but instead a happy side effect...
+ giving a monkey a shower
I wish I had 104 days of summer vacation
@@Chemical_Alchemist That's a lot of monkey showers.
@Luis Trevino finding a dodo bird, painting a continent and driving your sister insane
As you can see there's a whole lot of stuff to do before school starts this fall
People are worried how summer break impacts students' intelligence but have they considered how detrimental school itself is to intelligence?
At least in the US, school isn't about learning; it's about indoctrination. They don't teach to learn, they teach for rote memorization and far too heavy work ethic, because kids are pushed into working way harder and way longer than is good for them, and all for little to no reward, which is what companies want in their -wage slaves- employees.
@@Lycanthromancer1 I remember watching a german lets call it documentary about a german girl doing a year long student exchange and was amused how easy school was in Texas.
@@mrn234 Depends on when the events took place and where they took place. Some schools require 6+ hours of homework every night (sometimes as much as 8-10), which, combined with 7-8 hours of school per day, mandatory after-school activities, and prep and travel time for both, doesn't leave enough time to eat and sleep, let alone things like friends and hobbies.
@@mrn234 Thats Texas, I live in Massachusetts, which has the "best school systems" which are actually much harder than other states, I had a friend move to Arizona all the way back in I believe 5th grade, and I remember calling him and him telling me that he already learned everything being taught the grade before or something like that, so it all depends on the state, and the school, and the teachers.
@@Lycanthromancer1 same lol idk if im dumb but i feel like my brain was thrown into a deep fryer
Here in Bulgaria we have the longest summer breaks in Europe - 16 weeks. Italy and Russia are second with 14 weeks.
I’m packing my bags and coming there
Its 16 weeks only for the first 4 years. After that it becomes 14 for the next 3 years and drops further to 11 for the last 5 with the exception of the last year which ends earlier.
@@rssl5500 Wait until you learn you need to go to school on Saturday. In the end the amount of school days per year must still be roughly the same for every European country.
bruh shouldn't summer break be for the whole summer tho? it's like that in latvia
Summer vacation in highschool in Bulgaria starts from the 1st of July and goes on to the 15th of September. That's 2 months and a half or roughly 10 weeks of summer vacation. School days are from Monday to Friday and either from 7:30 to around 13:15 or from 13:30 until 7:15(this depends on how many classes you have in a particular day).
The correct answer: Students need a break from the hell hole
hey man school can be fun!!
Adults need breaks and we all know how that goes.
School would be LESS hell if summer vacation was shorter BUT it was compensated for by year-round three-day weekends and a removal of most forms of homework.
Summer vacation devastates what you learn in the second semester, and means so much time gets used in the first semester of the next school year to *just catch up.*
If only we did this for adults
@@Hjernespreng school already fucks with every night owl personality by virtue of starting ridiculously early. More and shorter school days would be heaven for everyone deprived of his natural sleep cycle currently. Shorter holidays, and shorter school days starting later. With 11 to 5 you still have 6 hours per day, so you'll need about 33% more days, so 240 days a year give or take. Imo would be much less exhausting than those 8 hour days that exhaust and turn school into a burden. Nowadays it's 8 hours and you can reasonably expect another 1-2 hours of homework. How can kids not be disgusted and utterly crushed by this? I know I was. It's truly soul crushing to have 4 days of a week consisting of eating, school, homework and sleep, with a small reprieve on Wednesday and the weekend to actually live a little. Many just give up on school and fail all the way up to their 18th birthday when they can just get out of that system.
Most of the places that adopted year-round school are in hotter parts of the country, the northern tier of states mostly never did because of the expense of retrofitting air conditioning into all those school buildings.
Yea. I went to elementary school in New Jersey back in the 1980s. The three-floor school I attended was built in 1916. If the temperature went above 90 degrees, school was usually cancelled or students were dismissed early (Of course, the principal's office had an air conditioner in his window). The school wasn't retrofitted for air conditioning until the mid 1990s.
Good point, only my high school had air conditioning. My elementary and middle school didn’t and when it got really hot we would just watch movies because it was impossible to think.
So true!!!! I’m in what’s considered a mild climate, but really the “mild” only applies to the winters…. There’s no air conditioning in almost all of the classrooms still. And our hottest months are September and October. Classrooms get to near 88°, fans don’t really do much except create extra noise and masks are still required anyway so let’s just say it’s not exactly an ideal learning environment. I’m not saying virtual learning was better, obviously it doesn’t work for many, but at least students could heat and be heard over fans and open door noise. We just need air-conditioning! And not to some greedy ridiculous 73° thing like the corporate offices, retail stores, and the district offices do, I’m talking just to keep it down to about 78 or 79 and that would be a good start!
@@thehighllama8101 WHAT? Where I live you need go to school even if is +104°F (40°C) and we don't have air conditioning
@@lisaschooler9992 But 88°F it's not even hot...
I always thought it had to do with the lack of air conditioning in the schools, which means a hot building where the kids will all get sleepy and not learn well.
I think there's truth to that, especially in the North where it would be an absurd expense to put air conditioning in buildings when it would only be necessary for 60 days a year.
I'm assuming schools in the South have AC, as it would be neccessary in the spring and fall as well. I could be wrong, I've never gone to school in the south, but I know here there's no AC in schools, at least there wasn't when I was young.
@@jasonlarsen4945 with the south you mean south america?
if thats the case i can completely confirm that there is in fact no AC in schools, only in the expensive ones. and if youre refering to africa, then i think the answer is obvious
@@jasonlarsen4945 it was customary over a half century before the concept of AC existed. My 1926 HS in the very hot central Gulf Coast didn't get air conditioned till the 1990s.
We started school in early August to try to beat the standardized tests given the day after Labor Day, originally meant to test lasting knowledge.
Never underestimate how much suffering government drones will impose on people to cheat a government test.
Summer vacation for schools was well established by the late 1800s.
Air conditioning for buildings in the US arrived in the early 1900s in movie theaters.
Air conditioning didn't become common in homes, cars, schools, and factories until the last part of the 20th century.
For example: I had a summer job in a curtain factory one year in the late 1960s. The factory building was brand new, the offices and cafeteria were air conditioned. The factory portion was not! (And the equipment wasn't new either.)
None of the schools I attended for Elementary through High School (1950s -1960s) had air conditioning.
@@mrio4722 Jason is referring to Southern states in the US. States like the Carolinas, Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana, etc. He isn't referring to South America or Africa. This video is about school calendars in the US only.
I wish adults got three months off every year
They absolutely can if they work hard and plan their career right!
Become a teacher
In Norway we have 25 days off we can take whenever we want, and if you don't have a job that is required to make society function(doctors, Police, etc)you also have Sundays off.
@@educacionespecialchannel3756 that's a month
a far cry from 3
I the UK week only get six weeks off in the summer.
On the fears of teachers having to reteach stuff after summer break, I'll tell ya, I never learned the damn thing in the first place.
I firmly believe in education reform and summer break has nothing to do with our problems there.
Ye tbh whenever I fully understood a concept, i might be a little rusty after a long summer break, but it really doesn’t take long to get back into it.
If you need to reteach the whole thing, it’s cause it wasn’t understood in the first place.
The teachers in the US are under paid, under funded, and over worked. The sad part is most go in with noble intentions, but then release they're basically just getting a service and hospitality job that requires a college degree. Honestly if more schools adopted STEAM, science technology engineering art and math, as the core of their curriculum more people would be able to go out with a trades degree.
@@KRYMauL an art degree is pretty useless most of the time,a math degree,science degree,and Engineering degree however are more like accomplishments because you somehow survived it.
@@PirateCat822 I'm not talking about degrees and even then Graphic design and Architecture are important.
Tbh I get a little rusty with my knowledge that I've learned in the year, but it's not like you forget everything you've learned. Plus there are still other ways to stimulate your brain and gain knowledge during the summer. You can work on projects, read, go to summer school, practice your math, and so on.
Ban standardized testing in its entirety. As a former teacher, I assure you that it is useless.
I agree but who is this directed to?
Is it not useful to measure how well the school is doing and for entrance to university?
indeed. just give kids a passion and know-how to learn
The only way to ascertain a diploma from "school X" is worth the paper it's printed on.
Your airline pilot has to pass a practical test; they don't just "take the school's word for it" that he's competent: _why not everyone else?_
@@bcubed72 False equivalency
Some of us didn't stop reading in summer break. For example my Catholic high school - my first freshman year that early summer they gave us a bag full of books. I loved that. And to this day they still encourage reading. Imagine. And did it cut into my summer - sure but I still had my bicycle went all over the place and had fun.
In elementary school, I had a year round schedule. My family enjoyed it, since we were able to take vacation during off season in places like national parks and major cities. Plus, we could stay longer in México with my grandparents during Christmas, New Year, and Los Reyes Santos.
I'm from Germany and I have 6 weeks of summer break, 2 weeks in fall, 2 weeks in winter and 2 weeks in spring. I personally like it more than having one giant break in summer.
Man you would hate Ireland then lmao. We get 3 MONTHS in the summer
This is the Australian system too.
@@TheHorseOutside same in Argentina, we get 3 months in summer, 2 weeks in winter, and nothing else );
Summer gets incredibly boring after a couple of weeks to be honest haha, and then there’s no more rest in the whole year (except for those miserable 2 weeks in winter)
And our Christmas/new year is in the beginning of the summer holidays so no luck there either.
I have advocated for this very thing in the US for decades. In the southern US summers are not pleasant so why not let us have extended freedom in fall and spring, the best times of the year. The other reason for year-round with frequent long breaks is for the working parents. It's easier to find child care for one to two weeks throughout the year than three months all summer long. You can hit up two sets of grandparents for visiting or other relatives or friends to watch over your kids for this shorter amount of time. This is not to mention more time and opportunities for teachers to decompress.
We have spring and winter break in the U.S.
"part of american culture"
these guys know that other parts of the world have summer vacations too right?
Do they last for 2 months and 10 days
@Agastya Rana yes but it’s like saying Christmas or New Year’s Eve are an American tradition, it doesn’t really take a lot of research to know those are world wide “traditions”. Summer holidays are a thing in like 90% of countries, not really American culture lol
Fast food is part of American culture for example, bc it originated there and Americans love it, there’s fast food chains in other countries but they are like Italian restaurants in New York, “American cuisine”
You know the concept of schooling was popularized by Europeans right? Forcing us into this pursuit of education and crippling debt.
Yes they do, and it’s still American culture
@@xChaoticSlick is breathing also part of American culture? Drinking water? Going to school? Getting into debt to study in university or go to the hospital? Oh wait… those 2 are actually an American thing, I almost forgot!
wow that’s crazy. here in Azerbaijan we go to school year-round 6 days a week, for 5 hours a day, and then a short break in the middle of winter
5 hours a day is normal, but I usually went to schools from 6 hours a day 5 days a week. So, it's the same amount just plus or minus and hour, also we have homework that in order to get an A on you have to up until 12 working constantly at.
5 hours day is pretty much half of how long I stay in school.
We get 3 months of summer break.
5 hours a day is a relatively small amount. In Poland it's about 7-8 hours a day once you hit HS.
As one who worked summers on the family farm, I can guarantee that the period between spring planting and fall harvesting was anything but idle. I was always grateful when school re-opened each fall.
*Insert Phineas and Ferb theme song*
There's a hundred and four days of summer vacation-
@@aidentheabsurd before school comes along just to end it
@@ThePowerBunny and the annual problem for our generation is finding a good way to spend it...
I don’t even get 104 days of summer
@@vonschweringen8321 LIKE MAYBE…!
While summer slide may not be real, year round poverty very much is. A lot of people dont realize that for many poor families, free and reduced school lunches are after the only meal kids get that day. During the summer's, families struggle to put more food on the table and teachers take from their own paychecks to provide snacks for their kids during the summer.
Source: my mother is a teacher in a school. Every day kids beg her for snacks before lunch because they havent eaten in 24 hours and she is constantly referring parents to programs that help feed kids over the breaks. Having shorter breaks throughout the year puts less strain on parents, children, and child care.
You are probably Indian
@@Space_and_history
Why the fuck would you make that assumption?
Poverty is a real problem in every country, and parents struggling to feed schoolchildren isn’t exclusive to one country
(WTH do people have kids if they can't even feed them?)
part of the reason they struggle is to pay for the school & teacher and their car and their expenses . there are countries that take there kids away and throw the parents in jail ill bet most of those parents have a nice car cell phone and time to paint there fingernails .
@@r5t6y7u8 It could be that the parents were more financially stable when they first had the baby, but then lost a job or developed health conditions that keeps them from working, and they became poor that way. Plus either way, the kids shouldn't have to suffer even if the parents were just foolish.
The fun bit is when you become an adult, get a job, and get no breaks!
adults get vacations in some European countries
@@snekkoheckko4466 Some? You mean all?
In the UK I worked various jobs and never got less than 20 days vacation not including public holidays.....
If you have a career, rather than just a job, you absolutely accumulate vacation days!
@@Living4YHWH Too bad 58.3% of US workers have a job and not a career
@@Living4YHWH 2 weeks isn't so much a vacation, just a break (especially considering most people are not able to take it all at once)
In india till few decades back there were 'harvesting holidays', when govt changed the schedule....school attendance actually dropped during harvesting season in rural india, this is a thing of past now due to more and more automation
Imagine getting a spring and fall breaks, we in Indonesia had only two breaks.
Ya very sad
Btw its have not had lol
Very sad indeed
We are still having two breaks. You speak like it was in the past 🤔
Same in Argentina, we just have summer holidays (about 3 months) and then winter break (2 weeks). And that’s it. In Easter we get to days of holidays (Thursday and Friday), so many take it as a short vacation and travel, but they are just 4 miserable days lol.
In America students usually get 1 week for spring and 2-3 days for fall break it's not long breaks like summer or winter
If you want a better education system give kids a say in what they get to learn at a younger age and cut out the bull shit cources and excess amount of hw
Preach!!
Lol, no, kids do not get a say in what they learn! Nice try!
you had better be trolling
So I’m guessing you didn’t want to waste your time with spelling.
@@ShadeIsLikely dude it's a RUclips comment get over yourself
It's because back in the day, there was no AC for schoolhouses, and heat stroke is not conducive to learning math.
Huh. When I was in high school, only a couple years ago, I remember that a bunch of my peers strongly believed that we should have year-round school in the US. I think it had more to do with having breaks distributed better throughout the year (as in not having to go to school for such long stretches of time) than anything else. I'm pretty sure a lot of the argument had to do with mental health, which to me made a lot of sense.
Have to let kids know that once you become an adult, you only get a week of summer break, and that's if middle management finds it favorable to approve 42 hours of PTO. Some managers are ok with it and wont make employee decisions based on it. Others aren't and will brand you as lazy if you dare to ask. This often impacts when kids actually have vacations, because let's face it, which company is going to approve more than a week off for the parents if there is no medical emergency ?
My parents tell me a lot of the working world and yes that is true i guess kids are clueless when it comes to jobs
Not true for normal developed countries. Normal are 5-6 weeks free time in a year.
@@maltehoffmann3621 6 weeks of vacation without a medical emergency is a great way to get fired, unless of course you have your own business or work in the Education sector.
@@adithyaramachandran7427 Or you live in a country in Europe. Most countries here have at least 4 weeks vacation.
@@maltehoffmann3621 only if you’re a teacher. That’s about the only profession in the US where you get the entire summer off like that. It’s a cultural thing in the US. Some people think we’d be better off if people were just cogs in the machine and interchangeable like that, but we’re not. We don’t have people take large amounts of vacation at one time here because somebody has to backfill their position while they’re gone…And that’s difficult to do, Especially because somebody else has to literally learn how to do your job and once they know how to do that job they can potentially wind up in HR arguing that they do your job better than you and you get laid off.
I still remember going back to school (in India) and then realising that I had apparently forgotten how to articulate and write words in my handwriting, because of the long summer break and lack of practice. I would much prefer Germany's way of 2-weeks once in a while instead of a long haul....
Don't know which part of India you come from, but where I come from, even adults die of heat stroke during the month of May if they go out any time after early morning and before evening, without proper care.
The reason we have long summer breaks in India, is because in most parts of the country, summers are hot enough to kill.
Growing up poor, summer was hard. When I was too young to supervise my younger siblings, it meant mom quitting her job and hoping she had managed to save enough to pay rent until we went back to school and she could get a new job. It meant hot days in southwest Florida with no AC, no pool, no gas money to go to the beach.
Naples sucks if you're not rich.
*Extreme Capitalism*
Long holidays and time out of school are terrible for people without optimal home life. My family had raging narcissists, those tantrums that would last hours and days, and when was their hilight? Weekends and holidays of course
Some of the smartest people I ever knew went to a one room schoolhouse. When they started in the first grade they also heard what the eighth grade kids were learning. By the time they finished the eighth grade they knew the material. The parents were involved in what was being taught. The community also built and took care of the schoolhouse. But farm kids tended to be resourceful. They learned to make something out of nothing. Farm kids often missed school however if they were needed on the farm, but there was never any shortage of work to be done on a farm especially with livestock, dairies in particular.
In Italy its Summer break bcs the governement doesnt want to install AC
Here in Germany we have 6 free weeks in the summer and 1 or 2 week holidays in fall, christmas, winter, easter and pentecost. So it's more equally distributed over the year which I find better. I couldn't have imagined to go to school for the entire year with only a few free days inbetween.
Don‘t forget May with so many national holidays and bridge days.
We get generally a week off in both fall and the spring plus a longer winter break u all are the ones worse off here over alp much less off time
Let them be kids, they’re going to be working everyday for the rest of their lives when school’s over with.
When I look back over the years starting school was the best thing ever. Getting to know new friends year by year. Now it's been 23 years. Since I graduated from high school. I sure miss those years
Kids in 19th century Europe had "summer break" long before there were private farms in the U.S., i.e. during the Austro-Hungarian Empire, so the argument about "helping parents on their farms" would make zero sense regardless.
there were private farms in America well before the 18th century
america had private farms ever since it was colonized.. wtf is school teaching you kids nowadays
@@dave8599 And also in the Austro-Hungarian Empire
@@krybling America was a long time the West India Company with only colonies in the East Coast. Back then the Land was cultivated by native Americans and spanish people
@@krybling Uhm bro the Native Americans had private farms and some of those Native Americans sold those goods in cities because they lived in the suburbs.
Summer breaks are needed so we can take a break from being talked at for 6-7 hours every day, only to do 2 hours of bs when we get home.
Edit: If school ain’t a place to sleep, home isn’t the place to do work.
esactly
God you’re really going to love being an adult
Hahahahaha. Enjoy it while you can! Being an adult is harder, and takes longer every day. Being in school is piss easy. Adults don't get the summer off. Most only get 30 days of holiday. Except Americans who mostly get only get 14.
@@megaangelic 30??? where is this?
@Safwaan but atleast you can choose what you want to do and when you have a job choose which job you have, you have more freedom for a bit of a harder life
😂😂😂😂😂 Suuure. Okay. Riiiiight. 😂😂😂😂😂👍
Growing up in the 1950,s and 60,s I learned far more in the 3 months of Summer than during those 9 months I was cooped up in s classroom where the lessons were repititous and full, boring and mind befogging. As a free_range kid, I read widely on a variety of subjects, investigated Nature, collected fossils, observed the maturation process of frogs. My mother and aunts taught me to cook and sew, a regular Home Economics course.I had a mighty full plate.
7:14 But they didn't answer the really important question. Who the hell makes vertical strokes on a horizontal scantron bubble?
Well in England we have a 6 week summer with 2 week breaks twice a year at Easter and Christmas, and 3 one week breaks in the middle of each term- so I guess you could call that a year round school.
@@bigmoniesponge We usually only get 4 days or so of Spring Break because of the snow...
I really wanted my school to go to year round back in the nineties. I was a ranch kid so summertime meant double the chores
I can't imagine you looked at the idea of summers off, and didn't consider air conditioning. None of the schools I went to in the 80s and 90s had it. People in the cities used to spend their summers at resorts to escape the heat, just like in the movie "Dirty Dancing". In Chicago, rich people would even sleep on the beach. In most of the country, I think after a few days of heat the students and teachers would be begging to work on a farm.
As Rick Sanchez once stated, "School's not a place for smart people".
Year round school benefits single parent families and the poorer working class, as child care is a constant challenge/cost that a long summer makes that much harder (lack of free summer activities, especially for younger children).
Year round school for k-5 especially would help those families.
Alternatively, free summer programs for that age group could be a better solution.
School often really isn’t about education, but is relied upon free daycare.
@@danieldaniels7571 School is mainly about making factory workers.
So THAT’S where the ‘there are a hundred and four days of summer vacation’ came from…
Actually, these are still less than 104 days. The 104 is because that's the amount of episodes the creator thought Disney will allow him to make - you can look it up online
@@Rotem_SI've been wondering about that for years. Thanks..
Year round school was popular in the 90s. My mother taught at one that started in southern BC and it was touted as the next big thing.
My dad had an eighth grade education, he was a farm kid. He was the oldest he helped take care of the family.
Break gives us a mental break
School should not be mandatory it should be an privilege , for example It should be the Child's decision to decide if he or she wants to go to School or not.
@@dinosaurus598 no i think 8 grades (from 6-7 yrs old) should be mandatory, to give insight into basic subjects and then you choose from there because you're 14-15 and have your own opinion.
@@matushka__ You actually got my age right.
@@dinosaurus598 oh I'm talking generally not about you, but hey cool lol
"Evils of long vacations 😂😂😂 sounds like this guy could've really used a vacation 😂
Thank covid for additional vacations 😂
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My vacación in 2019 were beacause of protesta on the streets 5 month from october until march of 2020 because of summer break in december
When I was growing up every kid couldn't wait for summer vacation (and most teachers, too). Back then we never had to do any kind of homework or read books and hand in essays. Now, most schools require them, but not a whole lot of kids do them. I would force my kids to do them every summer, and it seemed there were very few kids who would hand them over at the beginning of each new school year. If anything, each teacher would be shocked when they did get them. My kids hated having to do them, but now that they're grown they are grateful for it.
I’m just tired of trying to go on vacation at the same time as everyone else in America - it’s always too damn crowded! I’m all for staggering a version of year-round school, as I see people staggering their vacations as a consequence, which would (hopefully) reduce the mad rush. It could even things out across the board, if that makes sense.
I went to year round school in California in the early 2000’s!
I started quitting my job *every other* summer...
*Summer Vacation* was my favorite memory as a kid
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I'm Australian, and the school year here is about 200 days. Four terms of about 10 weeks each, with a two week gap between most terms, and a roughly 6 week break for Christmas+summer marking the start/end of the school year (which matches the calendar year here).
I think it works pretty well, but I don't exactly have experience with anything else.
Large theme park and summer resort areas also have an effect on when summer starts. High schoolers are cheap labor and not having school bus traffic helps as well.
Exactly
A lot of real life is learned over summers and summer jobs are important for older students.
Summer break came from the fact it was damn hot in summer to manage 30 sweaty kids who were too delirious with heat stroke to pay attention in class.
In my part of Germany it's more like fall-holidays, they go from 2nd of August to 12th of September.
American kids only go to school for 6 months a year? That’s so short.
Growing up in the Midwest it was 9 months but out east 10 seems to be the norm
No, 180 days, is not 6 months once you factor in weekends.
@@andreaslind6338 we get 210 days in Israel
@@andreaslind6338 ah. That makes sense. In my country the average is 220 days. So American school year seems enviably short.
We have 40 weeks in the Netherlands.
My college only has two weeks off for Christmas and all of August for summer.
As a kid it was always my understanding that spring break was created for farmers so that they’re kids could come home to plant. I never heard that about summer I always just assumed summer vacation was rooted in a lack of air conditioning
In the sixties my primary school in Florida allowed reps from "tobacco camp" to present about their program near the end of the school year.
It was for 6th graders; you went to Connecticut and picked tobacco. One of the attractions:.you could smoke all you wanted.
I like the way it's done here in Japan, most students join some club or activity after school. So you will see kids coming home from school around 6 or 8pm. It's not year round but it keeps them busy and always learning.
It's very unhealthy and not good for their psycho-social development at all. This way of life is very closely linked to the catastrophic suicide rates.
@@seresimarta4436 I would like my school was like this back my days. instead I was forced to do some sport that I don't have skill 2x per week and being all day studying in afternoon and night classes. Would be nice to have some choice in what activity I was doing backed by the school.
@@deco90014 I think you misunderstood "club". It's not something they do for the fun, it's something parents choose for them to prepare the kids' future professional success.
@@seresimarta4436 Really? I always thought they had a choice in what club they joined
@@victordeluca7360 I don't think any healthy child would choose to arrive home every day at 6 or 8 pm. It's very hard even for an adult. Kids' brain desperately needs unstructured time when they can be creative, find out how to beat boredom, socialise with friends without adult supervision etc. Structuring kids' time so excessively makes them socially and emotionally impaired. When kids play with the box instead of the toy, stare out of the window with no apparent reason etc their activity may seem useless to adults, but it's very important for the development of their brain. They have to learn how to find out things, how to invent games, how to make friends without being told by an adult what to do.
I am wondering about the drawbacks of our current system, with long summers off, how does that affect disadvantaged youth? During the summer, who watches the kids? Who provides them food? I’m curious to know if the long summers off create more harm than good in low income families. Would love a video going into those aspects
By the time I was in Highschool... Our breaks from school wasn't about the study (If anything... Studying was never an issue to me) it was about dealing with Social problems that us Teens were developing that made it the hardest about school as a whole. When you did your study, You had more opportunities to expand your intelligence and in a secluded environment, Athletics were a way to not only increase coordination, strength, and the best extracurricular activity, but built your confidence. The summer breaks were necessary for our brain development to just unwind and start fresh before going back to in a few months.
It would be easier to follow the difference in the school year if you used the same units (days vs months) when stating the school year.
How does this video not even have automated captions?
...because they take time to be made? The captions are there now, but caption generation isn't instantaneous.
@@sonofsisyphus5742 you're instantaneous
All students in my country be like: "Wait, you guys have summer off?!"
What country you from
I tell you, when I was a kid growing up, I cherished my summer vacations like a miser with a gold mine. Not even Christmas gave me a greater feeling of fully satisfied anticipation than the first week of June when school was out, and nothing filled me with greater resentment than when back to school in the fall. Well of course, I detested school, and I paid the price for never going to college and having to work in factory jobs for peanut wages all of my life, but I still in all my heart, cherish those wonderful days of my most memorable summer vacations
In the agricultural part of the south (Alabama especially) school was the summer (3 months). Children growing up need a long break or they burn out going 12 months. When I was young I couldn't wait until summer, and I was happy when school came again.
Very interesting... Our education system is something that very much concerns me. We have children graduating from high school who cannot write a proper sentence. I know because I tutored some of them when I was in college.
Seems to me that we need to fix the school education first before worrying about the summer break
3:32 Why did women teach in summer, and men taught in winter? That felt like a meaningful fact to just gloss over
The schools I went to were too worried about standardized testing. I honestly learned more after high school actually being out in the real world. Schools need to teach basic trades that would make life alot better for everyone. There is more than just college and test scores in the real world. I will never forget when the guidance counselor told me I was going to drive a dump truck for the rest of my life because I didn't know what I was going to study in college.
My ideal school calendar: Classes on Mon-Thu
First day of 1st term: November 1
Last day of 1st term: March 25
Spring Vacation: March 26 - May 4 (40 days)
First day of 2nd term: May 5
Last day of 2nd term: September 4
Autumn Vacation: September 5 - October 31 (36 days)
This still gives about 180 days per year, but it's a 4-day week, and there are still 2 longish breaks. And those breaks are when it's actually pleasant to be outside.
Instead of making students be more days in school make school more fun and interesting
Someone asked once when I was in high school "If we go to school year round, would be graduate high school when we're 12?" That would be interesting, you get an extra school year for every 3 summer vacations you wouldn't take, so four more years, when you're 14
I have never heard someone say summerbreak was for harvesting and I live in NY (not NYC). However, there are plenty of summer crops. Beans, Celery (cold climates), Corn, Cucumbers, Edamame, Eggplant, Muskmelons, Okra, Peppers, Pumpkins, Squash, Sweet potato (needs long, hot, frost-free season), Tomatillo, Tomato, Watermelon, Zucchini, Herbs (annual), Basil all harvested in summer and into the fall. Plus, Turnip ― Where winters are cold like NY, plant in early spring for summer harvest.They also would have needed manual field and crop care. They all have time to be dried or canned for winter storage and many "winter" variety squashes will hold up just with a cool dry area. Considering many boys had their own trial plot of land before 16 before the industrial revoultion and their parents allowed then the chance to sink or swim on their own. Until the government forced parents under threat of punishment it wasn't felt nevessary once the kids learned basic reading and arithmetic. They could work for everything else. I hate to say this but by your own video the school breaks in a lot of places coinsided with planting and havest. Then nobody would show up unless the could... Hum... Well, why couldn't they? Summer was really agreed upon because it's hot and it's hard to get adults to focus when its hot at the time there was not air conditioning so a school of unfocused hot kids will not learn anything and will resort to mischief. Plus, the farming communities would be happy so they could force the most kids to go to school at a given time and still make it feel like they compromised. It was not some rich people vacation thing. The rich could vacation whenever they felt just like they do now. 🙄🙄🙄🙄 Research anyone... Research.
As someone who grew up with year-round school I preferred it. Not due to any learning factors, but because I lived far away from any friends and while I enjoyed the break I missed the social element of school. Right around when I started getting bored school was back in session.
*the real reason schools give people summers off* unless you’re the drifter
gotta give me enough time to bank some motes
How can someone be against summer vacations? It teaches a lot more than school if you are Phineas and Ferb.
In Poland school starts at 1st September, the first break is for All Saint's Day (1st November) and the day after. Next we have Christmas break from 22-23rd December to New Year. Then 6th January is free and 2-week winter break (the date depends on voivodeship you have school in, so hotels and resorts don't experience a siege. A bit more than a week of Easter break. Then if you're lucky you can score 5 days off with 1st, 2nd and 3rd of May, if 3rd lands on Friday. Summer break ranges from the end of June to 1st September, when school starts again.
Very informative!
Passing this on to my Special Education teacher daughter.
Dang, surprised that teachers don’t teach this. You would think they do
EDIT: Idk teachers tend to teach random fun facts, at least from my experience. I also wrote that when I woke up, so yeah, that also comes into play
Why should they? Wouldn’t help the students.
Teachers teach based on the curriculum that the state provides.
No why
What do you mean? 🤷🏾♀️ What should we be teaching? Serious question, I’m not trolling.
I made an edit to my comment everyone. That should give you an answer
ummm.... you do realize there is more to farming other than plant and harvest right???
if you never had to do anything in between then everyone would have their own farm if it was just planting and forgetting it until fall... "facepalm"
Plenty of fruit and veg needs picked over summer. Potatoes get picked twice a year, July and September for example. Hay and silage is definitely summer.
Yes but for most of that work, it's essentially maintenance and can be done easily.
I worked with a lady who must have been one of the last kids whose families from the Eastend of London spent a week in Kent to harvest hops. It was their only 'holiday'. The first job was to find which hut you were put in and then fill a long sack to make your palliasse to sleep on. She said they worked hard but had fun in the evenings, making music and other entertainments
The Amish used to end required education at a certain age.
There tends to be this obsession.
Thank you for sharing informative videos!