Hands on Christopher Ward Twelve Integrated Bracelet Automatic Watch Titanium & Stainless Steel

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  • Опубликовано: 21 янв 2025

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  • @lordcharfield
    @lordcharfield Год назад +8

    Thank you very much for this. It was great to see the purple on the wrist. It’s the one I’m getting in honour of my dad who died this year. Purple was his favourite colour 🟣

  • @kenspear5077
    @kenspear5077 Год назад +6

    Man I am a sucker for this style.😍😍

    • @sage9743
      @sage9743 Год назад +2

      Same. I’m going to be in trouble.

  • @Alex-nh1hb
    @Alex-nh1hb 5 месяцев назад +1

    Really debating between this and the Straum Jan Mayen

  • @alamohamed8485
    @alamohamed8485 Год назад +5

    Ahhhh. Beautiful review ad always. Wish CW used grade 5 Ti

  • @thegraciefighter102
    @thegraciefighter102 Год назад +4

    I’m not a fan of the crown guards but hard to complain about grade 2 titanium when omega charge 5 x the price on the NYTD

  • @DonaldPerley
    @DonaldPerley Год назад +17

    Seems to be a trend with CW that if you want the COSC version of a watch, they also force you to go with oddball colors. In this case the 2 saturated colors, for others the bronze case.

    • @jasonriccoboni5931
      @jasonriccoboni5931 Год назад

      Agreed. I’m passing on this watch simply due to those odd colors. Feels like a huge miss to me.

    • @Davnatandale
      @Davnatandale Год назад +1

      Yes. It is very frustrating. I'd love to buy the white dial and the blue dial 36mm versions with COSC certification.

    • @jasonriccoboni5931
      @jasonriccoboni5931 Год назад

      @@Davnatandale 100% Would love the White or Glacier on steel with COSC

    • @tomasz5274
      @tomasz5274 9 месяцев назад

      Colors in camera shots may be deceiving. It may be worth to see different colors in person.
      CW have 60 days returns and 0% finance may allow to take 2 or more watches and make decision which color you like the most, then send back the other ones (or all of them if there is no joy).

  • @SunsetSheen
    @SunsetSheen Год назад +1

    Between this and the ML Aikon, which is better in terms of fit and finish?

  • @stu632
    @stu632 Год назад +4

    A lot of the design language comes from Czapek as one of the designers at CW worked or (also)works there.

  • @danielcooke9974
    @danielcooke9974 2 месяца назад

    It's nice the titanium has a good power reserve but at least CW should give a better choice of materials for the bracelet and case a 925 or a gunmetal steel would be nice.

  • @XjohnjohnX88
    @XjohnjohnX88 Год назад +1

    Great watch! Bravo CW 👏

  • @Eric_Nielsen
    @Eric_Nielsen Год назад

    Love that Sea Time book over your shoulder- I have that same one plus Drive Time and Air Time.

  • @Kamil__Cic
    @Kamil__Cic Год назад

    Is the architecture of a cosc movement different?

    • @ImaginaryEvil
      @ImaginaryEvil 11 месяцев назад

      No, they're regulated to COSC specification

    • @tomasz5274
      @tomasz5274 9 месяцев назад

      Note: CW The Twelve COSC model is SW-300 movement and non-COSC one is SW-200.

  • @watchenthusiastlondon
    @watchenthusiastlondon Год назад

    Thanks for the review. Enjoyed that. 🙌🙏

  • @TheTrueHasenfeffer
    @TheTrueHasenfeffer Год назад

    I want this but don't know if I like an integrated bracelet.

  • @bigjes
    @bigjes 10 месяцев назад

    Which one do you prefer the titanium or the steel 12?

    • @tomasz5274
      @tomasz5274 9 месяцев назад +1

      Reviewer seems to be leaning to Ti but this is personal joice. If you prefer lighter watch then Ti may be way to go.
      If you are after improves resistance fro scratches you may prefer stainless steel one.
      If it's more about look'n'fell... order both and send back the one you like less?

  • @danielbercovici5202
    @danielbercovici5202 Год назад

    Do these watches need servicing?

    • @ImaginaryEvil
      @ImaginaryEvil 11 месяцев назад

      All automatic watches will need a service at some stage. Usually every 7-10 years but varies

  • @Jos26Mar
    @Jos26Mar Год назад

    Wow! So beautiful! But it’s expensive the titanium version.

    • @balders952
      @balders952 Год назад

      Tag used sw300 for their calibre 7s. and omega used the 2892-A2 which was the sw300 was cloned from. The movement is pretty fire which makes the watch more than worth it

  • @seanelstob5922
    @seanelstob5922 Год назад +4

    I had the Purple Titanium on the top of my list but it unfortunately just dropped off due to the scratching issue that you helpfully highlighted.
    I buy titanium for the aesthetic but primarily for the hardness and durability. I don’t see the value (or point) in paying a premium for titanium and have it scratch easily.
    What a shame.

    • @natusMCMII
      @natusMCMII Год назад +5

      If I were you I wouldn't get scared off by scratches...I can't speak for The Twelve, but I have a Tudor Pelagos 39 which is also grade 2 titanium and I don't notice it scratching more easily compared to my stainless steel watches, doesn't matter if compared to the standard 316L, or 904L steel of my Rolex.
      Sooner or later, every watch will scratch anyways, so having the mentality of keeping a watch free of scratches will only make it hurt more, once that first inevitable scratch shows up...

    • @SuperPussyFinger
      @SuperPussyFinger Год назад

      Scratches annoy the shit out of me, especially when the finish gets marred by nothing more than resting your hand on a desk. It boggles the mind why manufacturers don’t bother to case-harden the material. I would gladly pay more for a watch that I don’t have to baby.

  • @joeltroughton3021
    @joeltroughton3021 5 дней назад

    So I love the purple, the dial the looks etc but you’re telling me an 1800 dollar watch is going to scratch easier?!? I am wanting to get something “luxury” under 2k that has scratch resistance. Probably asking for too much.

  • @stevehenrytagami4709
    @stevehenrytagami4709 Год назад

    which movement would you choose , the powermatic 80 or the SW200 ?
    I hear the powermatic 80 is part plastic and therefore disposable ? the reason I bought the quartz PRX . I would like to know more about the Swatch movement.

    • @tomasz5274
      @tomasz5274 9 месяцев назад

      I'd lean to SW-200 but if priority is power reserve then powermatic 80 is still worth considering.
      According disposable movement... How much is service (overhaul of whole movement) and how much is the new movement?
      If they are similar cost then maybe there is no point in worrying about serviceability and from economical point of view it may be better to use watch for many years until it develop any missbehaviour/failure and then replace the movement.

  • @x838nwy
    @x838nwy Год назад

    Love them, but the triangular markers make the dial look… puckered…

  • @itamaradio
    @itamaradio Год назад +3

    The PRX is a toy next to this watch. It is not even a comparison.
    The build quality, the materials, the movement, the thickness, the price - everything is way up.

    • @kimchiwasabee
      @kimchiwasabee Год назад

      Right,the PRX looks like an old fugly tank next to this. Ugh.

  • @legendarymoji
    @legendarymoji Год назад +4

    Surprised I’m not hearing more people draw the dial/indices comparison to the Omega Aqua Terra, it’s nearly 1 for 1 down to the color matched date at the 6.

  • @rafaelgonzalez6158
    @rafaelgonzalez6158 9 месяцев назад

    why is that watch a step up on quality vs the pre? PRX movement is better, the dial is also amazing. I don't understand why you think that one is a step up in quality

    • @tomasz5274
      @tomasz5274 9 месяцев назад +1

      Perhaps watch more close ups in YT clips of both watches to try to asses the quality yourself. Arms, dials, printouts etc.
      If you don't see difference there is probably no point to pay more for CW.
      According movement the PRX have 80h power reserve vs 38h of this watch, but... Powermatic 80 to achive the 80h lowered frequency from 4Hz to 3Hz (seconds arm sweep is less "fluent"/attractive), also people complain that Powermatic 80 have plastic components and is less or perhaps non-servicable and instead it's disposable.
      Good luck with research and making your own choice :)

  • @jay8360
    @jay8360 Год назад +2

    I'm generally not interested in homage watches unless they are improved versions of its original part. In this case, I would prefer these over PRX and even IWC ones.

  • @bigjes
    @bigjes 10 месяцев назад

    Prx is for rookies , this is a class watch Christopher Ward officially has 4 big hitting watches , the moon phases the bell canto, and the 12 , Christopher ward is making some mf, moves I love it all, it’s becoming one of my favorite brands in the watch world rn

  • @jaybe8160
    @jaybe8160 Год назад +1

    What happened to your subscribers? Didn't you used to have under 40k?? ;-)

  • @kennethgrisham9409
    @kennethgrisham9409 Год назад +2

    I just picked up a prx I almost wish I woulda went this route

  • @jroark101
    @jroark101 Год назад

    I really wish they would use female end links not male!

  • @craigriley9892
    @craigriley9892 Год назад

    If that purple was SS but still had the chronometer, I'd buy it. I've been looking for a purple dial watch and they are hard to find. If anyone knows of any purple dial watches that are reasonably priced, let me know.

    • @scottbarnett3566
      @scottbarnett3566 Год назад

      Zelos aurora. New version drops in one day. Nebula. Very similar colour to the 12. But cheaper

    • @StackinGreene
      @StackinGreene Месяц назад

      Nomos has some purple dials

  • @kennethgrisham9409
    @kennethgrisham9409 Год назад +3

    I love the purple think it’s beautiful

  • @jazzman5598
    @jazzman5598 Год назад +3

    Fine vid Chris, Thanks

  • @Ae073001
    @Ae073001 Год назад +30

    Good attempt from CW, good-looking watches, and adding variety to their lineup. Two big misses to me, however, is not offering the SW300 with the stainless steel. Many like the heft of SS and prefer that over Ti. They'll miss a lot of sales with that omission. Also, grade 2 with no harding? Why pay for the upgraded movement and unique dial color if the case and bracelet will scratch up easier than the SS version? To me, another miss for sales. Maybe 2nd generation will have more cohesive thought.

    • @tupakveli
      @tupakveli Год назад +6

      I mentioned that at their booth at Windup watch fair in SF and they said they had ZERO plans on doing what you mentioned. It didn’t even seem like they cared even after I mentioned that they will get a lot more sales this way. Same way on Instagram in their comments section. They didn’t comment on it whatsoever whilst commenting on other people’s comments showing that they are only half listening to their client base.

    • @Ae073001
      @Ae073001 Год назад +3

      @tupakveli That's nonsense to not even consider something that seems to make perfect sense. In the end, the consumers' dollar always wins out, so we'll see if they change their strategy.

    • @watchfalcon122
      @watchfalcon122 Год назад +3

      You're not getting the finishing, facets, chamfers, and polishing on Grade 5 sub $2K. This will sell well (already back ordered to Nov) and CW will make a bunch of money

    • @tupakveli
      @tupakveli Год назад

      @@watchfalcon122 Then the flipside would be adding hardening treatment for let's say an additional $200. My $700 Traska has that treatment and i bang it up almost everyday that I wear it and no scratches. With titanium, the luster is already a bit muted, just like the stainless steel Traska with that specific treatment so they wouldn't be losing much in that department regardless.

    • @watchfalcon122
      @watchfalcon122 Год назад +4

      @@tupakveli if you use the coating, it can wear off and also not be refinished to factory spec. Tudor Pelagos uses Grade 2 with no treatment and they hold up fine.

  • @craig2100
    @craig2100 Год назад

    Beautiful watch. I'm digging the purple... so different and unique

  • @willelliott5052
    @willelliott5052 Год назад +9

    I have the Twelve Ti Blue with bracelet on order. I also have the Bel Canto Purple with bracelet on order. I think that these two watches will propel Christopher Ward to accelerated growth, and that these are the limited days when you can get them for relatively cheap.

    • @btailor7347
      @btailor7347 Год назад +1

      The business model is not to charge more than x3 the cost of making. But this can obviously change in the future

  • @albertsylvester2981
    @albertsylvester2981 Год назад

    THE PURPLE DIAL IS JUST AWESOME THE COLLAR GOES OUT THE WATCH LOOKS GREAT THE VIDEO IS PERFECT WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY KEEP MAKEING MORE VIDEO I LIKE IT

  • @vric
    @vric Год назад

    Love them. Will probably order one at some point.
    Right now, their customer service has too many problem. Since Bel Canto, their repair time is super long, they never answer phone and email takes days to get a reply, IF you get a reply at all.
    There's a lot of angry customer on comunities... They really have to step up..

  • @WatchesBeAwesome
    @WatchesBeAwesome Год назад

    I almost snagged one of these - very tempting!

  • @darkeye77
    @darkeye77 Год назад +1

    Thanks for doing this! Really interested in the PRX comparison, probably going to buy one of the two in the next year.

  • @MUNRO13
    @MUNRO13 Год назад

    No black dial is annoying.

  • @homeofwatches
    @homeofwatches Год назад +3

    Love the purple dial ❤

  • @andrewantonowicz6454
    @andrewantonowicz6454 Год назад +1

    Hey from down under! Great review, am a CW fan and currently own a Trident, good to see CW getting some airplay. CW are always great value for money. Would love to see how this compares to the Nivada Grenchen F77 as well as the PRX.

  • @DistractedPlatypus
    @DistractedPlatypus Год назад +6

    That purple is GORGEOUS. Looking forward to seeing the PRX comparison as it’s on my shortlist.

  • @robertadoki3198
    @robertadoki3198 Год назад

    The review I was waiting for! thanks

  • @Supercruze
    @Supercruze Год назад +2

    Beautiful watch by CW. I prefer the heft of SS over Titanium. I really wish CW gave the customer the option of upgrading the movement on the SS version watch to the COSC certified movement. CW, hope you are listening.

  • @efenli
    @efenli Год назад

    👍👍👍 another Nice Watch introduce by Watch Chris 👍👍👍

  • @LUV2T8KU
    @LUV2T8KU Год назад +2

    Nice watches and good video.

  • @brianbutler307
    @brianbutler307 Год назад +3

    Still waiting on my blue Ti. Ordered the day it launched.

    • @zdenekk.8564
      @zdenekk.8564 Год назад

      Me too. They are delayed on the rubber strap but say the watch will ship first

  • @danryan4137
    @danryan4137 Год назад +1

    Love Christopher Ward. But at twice the price of the Tissot,it’s not twice as good a watch. I’ll order a CW dune instead.

    • @divertiti
      @divertiti 11 месяцев назад

      It's more than twice as good as the PRX. The PRX looks and feels like a cheap toy out of a cereal box

  • @bravo154cm
    @bravo154cm Год назад +3

    I think you were bang on, does need a lumed second hand, and would be much better in grade 5 titanium. I would also like a micro adjust a bit like the jlc polaris

  • @DrNitin14
    @DrNitin14 Год назад +2

    purple looks a lot better than I thought. Great review. Definitely a step up from the PRX.

    • @Goose619
      @Goose619 Год назад

      The dial is horrendous. PRX has cleaner textures.

  • @ajcallaway123
    @ajcallaway123 Год назад

    Love both of these. Ti looks amazing but worried purple will date, and blue too bright. Perhaps a Tiff style blue would work? White looks super. Great review and comparison

    • @v0llm1lch
      @v0llm1lch Год назад

      There is a light blue dial stainless steel version ✌️

    • @ajcallaway123
      @ajcallaway123 Год назад

      @@v0llm1lch yeah, I like that, would like the Ti case ... Not sure I can afford either so not really an issue lol

    • @v0llm1lch
      @v0llm1lch Год назад

      @@ajcallaway123 yea I'm just not a Ti guy, I need a little weight on my wrist 😁 and it's grade 2 so it will probably scratch pretty fast. I ordered the light blue stainless steel but I also like that white/silver dial and the grey one also grew on me.

  • @KevinLowhorn
    @KevinLowhorn Год назад +1

    I have a SS white dial on order. I had a PRX and suspect/expect that this will be a big step up.

  • @NDemyanov
    @NDemyanov Год назад

    Hope they make a dark green one!

  • @Tangylives
    @Tangylives Год назад +8

    They really should've had a hardened coating on the Ti version. That was the dealbreaker for me on that model. The steel model having a SW200 made it a pass for me. Decent attempt, but just missed the mark for me.

  • @RichKovars
    @RichKovars Год назад +2

    One fact that seems to have been lost in the shuffle is that the head designer at CW Adrian Buchmann was also on the Antarctique team as well.

  • @sohailquaider1728
    @sohailquaider1728 Год назад

    Nice watch. BTW, the applied markers are straight from the Glashütte Original Seventies Panorama Date!

  • @bestboy897
    @bestboy897 Год назад +2

    that purple dial looks pretty cool

  • @wongjefx980
    @wongjefx980 Год назад

    Always liked the look of CW's, the old logo kind of miss. For the cost would l get one over a Formex E39 or saving more for Tudor 1926? Not sure. Or even for Tissot 1853 fans.

  • @tylerhough9124
    @tylerhough9124 Год назад

    Just got my second PRX 80. Looking forward to adding a Ti 12. I feel very much like a stereotype 😅 but these scratch the itch without selling the farm

  • @MaartenAnna
    @MaartenAnna Год назад

    That purple one is INSANE!!!

  • @davidf3974
    @davidf3974 Год назад

    I find the bracelet tapers too thin too quickly for my liking on an integrated 40mm watch. Fingers crossed for the 36

  • @SoCalWatchReviews
    @SoCalWatchReviews Год назад +1

    85K subs, let’s go 👏 🔥

  • @jonathanrobinson9208
    @jonathanrobinson9208 Год назад

    I'm picking up more of a laureato vibe from this . Beautiful watch, I'm looking forward to your prx comparison video ! Thanks for the review Chris! ❤

  • @woodstock480
    @woodstock480 Год назад

    Looking forward to the direct comparison video to the PRX.

  • @kyledriscollmusic
    @kyledriscollmusic Год назад +1

    I really want to like this watch, and I do like the ice blue one, but I want to like it more and I just can't, I just think the PRX looks better and for far cheaper. There's a lot of design elements with this that just don't really hit home for me

  • @DavidDatura
    @DavidDatura Год назад +3

    I like this design more than any other current ‘affordable’ integrated bracelet sports watch on the market, by a country mile! But I’m very disappointed that CW only offer the premium movement on the duller much more scratch prone titanium versions. I hope at some point in the very near future they rectify this.
    Either by using a scratch resistant coating on the titanium, or even better, just upgrade from Grade 2 to Grade 5 (is the latter that much more expensive?) or just offer the SW-300 as an option on the steel version, which visually just looks so much nicer anyway. I might even purchase one myself at that point, it’s a very desirable timepiece…almost.

  • @wilsoncheng122
    @wilsoncheng122 Год назад +1

    Ti doesn’t get scratched easily. What you are scratching is the oxidation. Where it scratched will grow back

    • @davidf3974
      @davidf3974 Год назад +1

      Grade 2 titanium scratches with more ease than most stainless steels

    • @wilsoncheng122
      @wilsoncheng122 Год назад

      @@MES1808NYC I have my PAM 311 as daily for 1.5 year which I don’t wear or treat it differently than my Aqua Terra WorldTime and I can see more hairline scratched on my Aqua Terra and my PAM 311 and this is from experience. From the original video, Chris said by handling the C12 already scratched the watch which cannot be true

  • @dado380
    @dado380 Год назад +3

    It can't compete with ML beacuse Aikon has insane quality, machining,ar coating and maybe the best integrated braclet on the market for 2k.

  • @tomfilippone6303
    @tomfilippone6303 Год назад

    Ugh.. CW.. get rid of the date window!!!! It would look sooo much better without!!!!

    • @BobbyTable
      @BobbyTable Год назад

      I think it would lead to a ghost position or require a modification... so it wouldndrive up the price. Not sure how much though.

    • @tomfilippone6303
      @tomfilippone6303 Год назад

      @@BobbyTable couldn’t they use a movement without a date function? I would think it would be less expensive as there are less moving parts and less labor involved?

    • @BobbyTable
      @BobbyTable Год назад

      @@tomfilippone6303 Indeed, you are correct. Sellita makes no Date variants of both movements. I thought that was just an option for the SW200. However, they are a lot leas common so it could be a supply issue as well. If the Twelve takes off you don't want to be restricted by that.
      Going to a different supplier is probably not an option either. Not worth it after working together for so many years.

    • @tomfilippone6303
      @tomfilippone6303 Год назад

      @@BobbyTable you have a good point. However, I think that watch companies put the date window simply because that’s the tradition. No one uses the date window anymore because we all have smart phones, just like most people don’t have land lines anymore in their houses. It’s such a beautiful watch, I just think it would look amazing without the date window. However, you could be right in your analysis.

  • @tupakveli
    @tupakveli Год назад +3

    I thought about buying the titanium one until I saw non hardened grade 2 titanium. Furthermore, no white/lighter dial for the titanium version so I have to pass until Christopher Ward comes to their senses. At $1800, I see no reason for a titanium watch to scratch that easily. Also, I don’t see why they could not have just put a non COSC SW-300 movement instead of the inferior SW-200 movement in the stainless steel watch as I’ve seen the Islander put an SW-3xx grade movement in their $695 GMT.

    • @v0llm1lch
      @v0llm1lch Год назад +2

      SW 200-1 is absolutely fine in this price range imho. I've got 4 watches with this movement, they are doing good

    • @tupakveli
      @tupakveli Год назад +2

      @@v0llm1lch I agree and I do too and at even higher price points than the base model Twelve, but I'm sure that divide is causing a lot of people to not even consider one. At least from what I'm reading on Instagram comments. A lot of people are disappointed in that. I would fore go it no matter what and just get the titanium edition, provided it had the right colors and hardening. My $700 Traska Venturer has been banged against metal and such and no scratches whatsoever so I'd appreciate that hardening for near $2k. Hell, I'm sure many people would pay an additional $200 for that treatment alone. That's my personal biggest gripe

  • @Masterpsflood
    @Masterpsflood Год назад +1

    CW makes some of the ugliest watches they are way to crowded designs, too much going on.

    • @justinhendren540
      @justinhendren540 10 месяцев назад

      Ridiculous statement.

    • @Masterpsflood
      @Masterpsflood 10 месяцев назад

      @justinhendren540 pointless rebuttal.
      If you're going to disagree say something about it

  • @MetalsForBrunch
    @MetalsForBrunch Год назад +1

    looks like nautilus had sex with Tissot prx and omega sea master. too much going on. Tissot Prx is a lot cleaner in design imo.

  • @tomjones9519
    @tomjones9519 Год назад +1

    that color is horrid

  • @tomjones9519
    @tomjones9519 Год назад +1

    so you get an uglier watch and pay more. That sounds about right from CW. Come on guys.

  • @kingcold7138
    @kingcold7138 Год назад

    That titanium color is too basic, too dark.

  • @CaptainZed
    @CaptainZed Год назад +1

    replica ish kind of a bullshit watch

  • @drnick40
    @drnick40 Год назад

    I bought the blue fume in titanium and am expecting it any day now.

  • @darrenhojnacki6636
    @darrenhojnacki6636 Год назад

    Dial looks Aqua Terra like.

  • @ivandolz
    @ivandolz Год назад +1

    A shame I had to cancel my order due to the worst customer service I have ever experience in a watch company. Probably they had high demand but still… they have to honor confirmed orders or at least answer worried customers. I was very disappointed to the point of cancelling my order and taking my money elsewhere. A real pity.

    • @remus2001
      @remus2001 Год назад +1

      Same story for me! I had to cancel my order because I couldn’t track it online and I couldn’t get any help from their atrocious customer support.

  • @theoverlord1925
    @theoverlord1925 Год назад +1

    Almost 2 grand for a brand that has just about the same history and prestige as my lawnmower: No thanks. It would be nice to know the weight difference by the way between the steel and the titanium version as that determines wearability and comfort on wrist . Sorry but I personally dislike CW , there are many better options out there for $2000 or less in my opinion. I would buy a Tissot PRX Powermatic 80 if I wanted an integrated bracelet look watch and have about $1250 left over to buy another watch .

  • @brpugonlatour1636
    @brpugonlatour1636 Год назад

    Prx better

  • @planr5572
    @planr5572 Год назад

    It's no doubt very well built and finished, But the design is non-daring, SeaMaster/PRX fused.IMHO.

  • @MrWhiterunGuard
    @MrWhiterunGuard Год назад +1

    For a starting price of $1225 that goes all the way to $1875 I don't think I want a watch that shares the same movement as an Invicta.

    • @garyboyle695
      @garyboyle695 Год назад +9

      You obviously don't know very much about watch movements.

    • @remus2001
      @remus2001 Год назад +1

      Are there Invictas with COSC rated Sellita SW300 movements?

    • @justinhendren540
      @justinhendren540 10 месяцев назад

      Many companies use either ETA or Sellita movements in their watches. Why act surprised? Go purchase a Rolex if you want entire watch to be made in house. You will pay for it too.

  • @tortugabob
    @tortugabob Год назад

    Purple watches are ghastly. Textured dials are ugly too. Two dogs.