Hey folks! As I begin watching and reacting to the sequels, please be mindful of what you're typing in the comments. Believe it or not, it is possible to explain why you dislike a movie in a constructive way, that is free from insults and hate towards me as a person (or towards others who have commented). Crazy, I know. If you watch the entire video, you'll see that I had some of my own criticisms with this film too, but not enough to dedicate so much negative energy to it. I'm here to have fun, y'all. If you want to bathe in a hate bath, please go watch a RUclips video that bashes on this movie instead. I think you'll be in better company there. 💛 CLONE WARS REACTIONS (PATRONS): kaiielle.com/clonewars 🚀 Click here to read my FAQ: kaiielle.com/faq
Yeah. I'm not a fan of these movies in particular as I feel that they fail to carry on the story of Lucas's saga in a consistent and adequate fashion but I'd be lying to be myself if there weren't any bright spots. I really love Finn's character in this movie for example. Obviously, there are some people who take their criticisms of these films (like the prequels) WAY too far and to toxic extremes. As you said, there are constructive ways to respectfully critique a movie without being outright insulting to it's fans :)
Your best introduction to date 🤣 and not a spoiler but something you should know before watching the next movie, Carrie Fisher passed away part way through filming, which effects how some people view the film, not sure if you already knew this or not, because I don't recall you mentioning it before, so I just wanted to bring it up.
But I gotta say that I don't mind it. Chewie just lost his best friend. He walked past everyone because he probably didn't want to talk to anyone. He just wanted to be alone and cry.
The planet they turned into Starkiller base is Ilum where the Jedi typically went to get a kyber crystal for their lightsaber as one of the final trials to graduate from being younglings
Fun fact: The First Order Stormtrooper that Finn fights against on Takodana and who Rey mindtricks is played by none other than the 007 agent himself, Daniel Craig :)
Can confirm that the sound design was an amazing thing to experience in theatres! It was my very first Star Wars film I'd seen in theatres too so it was truly a one of a kind experience. Also I'm so glad you love BB-8, I think they did an amazing job with his design and mannerisms. Looking forward to see the rest of the reactions for this trilogy!
Scarif only had military-related archives from the Empire (like the Death Star plans). All the other archives, including the map Kylo Ren was talking about, would probably be in Coruscant, the old capital of the Republic which was also the capital of the Empire. So yeah, the First Order probably stole that map from there.
I’m glad you’re going in headstrong and aware of this being “your” experience. Other reactors get bombarded with passive aggressive comments about the sequels to the point that it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy for reactors, and you can see the that negative comments did unconsciously affect their experience. I hope you enjoy this journey, and may the force be with you friend.
@@kaiielle You do you and ONLY you, Kaiielle. In my opinion, there's a HUGE amount of fun to be had with the sequels. As far as I can tell, the hate for these movies is born almost entirely out of the fact that the story didn't end up happening the way a fairly large portion of the fanbase thought it should have happened. But there's nothing at all intrinsically wrong with the way it happened, contrary to what the haters would have you believe. I suggest you approach it without any such preconceived notions and there's no reason you shouldn't have an absolute BLAST with the sequels. 🙂
@@magicconchshell this. The prequels got a massive amount of hate and screams of "This isn't Star Wars! They ruined it!" Heck, there is a fantastic documentary about it, The People VS George Lucas. I was one of those haters, but I've made my peace with the prequels. The same will happen with the sequels over time.
I think one of the major issues I have with this film is how poor the world building is. I can understand that , 30 years later, there would be some remnants of the Empire who would want to keep on fighting like neo-nazis did after ww2. But it's the fact that they've somehow amassed more resources than the Empire and built not just another Death Star, but somehow an even more powerful Death Star that I find baffling from a writing standpoint. Plus, it kind of seems strange that they had this even bigger, mega Death Star being built and somehow the New Republic did nothing to stop them, despite being the governing force at the time. And of course, that New Republic gets destroyed before we even see how it operates so that we can revert back to the classic Stormtrooper Vs Rebel conflict people are so familiar with. I think that's my major issue with this film. It proudly wears the aesthetics of the OG trilogy on its heart but never goes beyond the imagery present and just feels.... shallow. Just my opinion :)
You cited the Nazis post World War II. A better example would be Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union. 30 years later, Russia is arguable as powerful as the Soviet Union was. I'd also point out that in the old EU, the Imperial Renmant remained a potent force 130 years after the battle of Yavin. Finally, it took the Empire almost 20 years to build the first Death Star. That's a huge expenditure of manpower and resources. Yet they were able to build another Death Star in just 4 years. These are movies about space wizards. They collapse under too much scrutiny. Much of the criticism of the sequels applies to all of the movies.
I love this reaction so much, on so many levels. That being said, I smiled at this: kaiielle: "In the movies I've seen so far, the seismic charges were really the only thing that, like, super-stands out, sound-design wise..." Ben Burtt: "I... I tried my best." *cries himself to sleep in his big pile of Oscars*
I’m really an original trilogy guy; wasn’t a huge fan of the prequels though I have revisited them and got more out of them recently. But I have to say when I saw this in the cinema I was about as excited as I was when I saw A New Hope (or as we called it, just Star Wars) in the theatre in 1977. What I loved most of all was the altogether more practical look and feel of the movie - like the originals (pre ‘special editions’). Kudos to you for making your own mind up about these new films. I enjoyed them for the most part.
The og trilogy, the second film often is considered the best. The prequel trilogy, the third film is the best. The sequel trilogy, the first film is the best.
Being a lifelong fan of Star Wars (46yrs, I was 9yo). The original concept and books that followed RotJ, Han and Leia had 3 kids (twins Jaina/Jacen, and Anakin). Luke married Mara Jade (jedi assassin). When Disney took over, they erased all the books, hence destroying SW Universe. The Thrawn Trilogy was a much better concept than what Disney spewed out with VII, VIII and IX. The books in whole, were better in every way.
This is the reaction I needed, sometimes I feel like I'm the only person that enjoys this movie. Sure there's problems and its not perfect, but there's so much here to love. Thanks Kaiielle 😊
I loved Finn and Rey in this. And getting Han Back. Loved the line 'I used to be...' the feel of this and its humour was so in line with the original Star Wars where the laughs came from interaction and situation. I don't need the next two. I love this one and can use my imagination about what happens next.
Yeah even as an avid hater of the sequel trilogy I think this movie is fun. A bit dissapointing on the whole story when it came out, but it still looked good and made me excited for the next movie. Unfortunately we know how well that went :P
This one is pretty decent. A little bit of a copy of ep4 but the next two…. Grossssss, some fun action scenes but they didnt do their characters justice
@@shaggjones4854 from the trailers, i thought the plot would be that all use of the force had been banned by a fearful new Republic and the Jedi also had been stopped from practicing. That's not what we got, but I loved the film for the characters and how they interacted, although yep, I was disappointed that we got more of the same in slightly different clothes.
I would say Kylo IS having that internal struggle during his confrontation with Han, he's just been twisted inside to think that the dark is the only viable path left for him to feel better and then you see how after than he's off balance, it didn't give him the focus strength that he thought it would. It's also touching how even after being stabbed Han still shows love to his son in how he holds his cheek and how for as upset as Chewie is, he shoots for Kylo's leg/hip cause having seen him and than with blasters previously he could have killed I'm right there. There's 100% more going on under the surface with Kylo/Ben, the choices that he's made, the choices other's made that while well intended hurt him years prior but that's for later
During production there was a quote from Mark Hamill about BB-8. I forget the exact quote but it was something along the lines of it being difficult to make a droid cuter than R2-D2…and then he saw BB-8 and was like “well played.”
Han was supposed to die in episode 5, after being frozen on Carbonite, but George Lucas changed his mind and "convinced" ($) Harrison Ford to come back almost last minute to do episode 6 (they quickly rewrote the movie to include him, and that's why Han Solo's arc/storyline in episode 6 is kinda weak compared to the previous two movies).
This was a perfect way to kick start the return of Star Wars. Everything felt comfortable, the flow of the story was very recognizable and allowed the audience to just jump right back into the world of Star Wars. Glad you are enjoying these, and love your open mind to let the story tellers tell/show you the story they want to tell.
@Gerald H perhaps YOU need to read the pinned comment wise guy. It talks about hateful comments towards others, which hasnt happened in this thread as no insults towards you or kaiielle were used. He simply trashed the movies story, comment says nada about that
@Gerald H it was very constructive, Star Wars fans felt it exactly as it was the story is trash, totally unoriginal just a rehash of A New Hope then it just goes downhill from there.
Interesting fact. BB-8's design was imagined as far back as the first films but the limited technology of the time kept him from being implemented. That has since been rectified and he's even a full on practical effect. Also if your curious why the beam of Kylo's Crossguard saber crackles like that, its because the kyber crystal inside it is cracked. Its symbolic of the divide inside him.
Having gone through and watched your other reactions last week this is probably the one I was most excited for to see how you responded to the continuation of everyone's stories and the new Protagonists! I'll be honest I absolutely LOVE this film and it's one of my favourites, despite the hate the Sequels get I think this was a great starting point for a trilogy and a lot of fun. A couple of things, you're so right about Kylo Ren being a complex character, and really he wasn't trying to lie or bluff Han, he really was being torn apart between the two sides of the force, "I know what I have to do but I don't know if I have the strength to do it" was killing Han and thus trying to embrace the Dark Side by cutting out the light to try and stop that internal conflict. The lighting in that scene is also great, as the sun fades it's a personification of the Light leaving Kylo, you'll see the aftermath of that choice in the next films. Also the fact you picked up on the Bloody Hand print on Finn's helmet, I remember that being a big thing at the time as blood was so rarely seen in Star Wars as Lightsabers cauterize wounds and Blasters leave burns, it really added a bit of reality to Finn's first Battle and it's a unique perspective you never really get to see. I'm looking forward to your thoughts about Rey, thinking she could be Luke's daughter because theories were absolutely rampant about who she could be or who she might be related to or not throughout this whole trilogy. In the old expanded Universe (which I haven't read but know of) which is no longer Canon after the sequels came out. Luke did actually Marry a Jedi named Mara Jade as he was the head of the New Jedi Order he adapted it as it went forward as he learnt about the past mistakes of the Jedi. They actually had a child called Ben Skywalker obviously named after Obi-Wan. In the books Leia and Han have three Children, Anakin, Jaina and Jacen Solo, naturally the Skywalker bloodline each had issues with falling to he Dark Side since the original Anakin was a conception by the Force, what is interesting about Skywalker blood though is their ability to come back from it where many others can't. It's interesting to see that the films did take some inspiration from the old canon books namely when creating Kylo Ren/Ben Solo's character! I'm glad you picked up on the way they utilised the Force in this film expanding on it's uses that are typically seen in the books, games and Cinematics rather than the films itself, like freezing someone in place, knocking them out or probing their mind. I still remember an audible shock from the Midnight showing when Kylo stopped the blaster bolt, you just knew everyone gasped so I'm glad you had a similar reaction! Also just have to mention the sweeping "one-shot" of Poe's Black X-Wing taking out all those Tie Fighters it's just so fantastic at showing he's the best Pilot in the fleet and "Scherzo for X-Wings" is such a brilliant piece by John Williams which ties that whole scene together from the X-wings arrival at Maz' Castle! A few fun callbacks too, in the opening with Poe and Lor San Tekka when Poe mentions the General Lor says "to me she's Royalty" referencing her status as Princess Leia which many may have forgotten about now that 30 years have passed his Alderaan was destroyed so new generations wouldn't necessarily know that. When Rey & Finn are running from Jakku and she suggests the Quad Jumper Finn says "what about that ship" to the one off camera, Rey says that ship is "Garbage" similar to how Luke called it a "Piece of Junk" in A New Hope. It might be worth looking up the Battle of Jakku (after you finish the trilogy to avoid potential spoilers) as there is background out there about how the Star Destroyers ended up wrecked there and even the Helmet Rey is wearing when eating. There's also a couple of fun Cameos too, Unkar Plutt (the pudgy alien who gives out the portions) is actually Simon Pegg, he's friends with J.J Abrams after Mission Impossible and Star Trek and got offered that little role because he's such a huge fan of Star Wars. James Bond himself also appears as Daniel Craig plays Stormtrooper JB-007, the one who gets Jedi Mind tricked into letting Rey go, if you re-watch that scene you'll likely be able to recognise his voice. All in all I'm excited to see you react to the rest and I might just have to hop onto Patreon for even more because there's so much you'll enjoy from the series! Even if I think The Force Awakens is probably the best of the sequels, I can still enjoy the others as Star Wars is like Pizza "even when it's bad it's still pretty good" and there's enjoyable/fun/cool/epic moments to be found in all of them!
The Jedi prohibit attachment, but not physical affection etc. So without going into specific details, Luke could've had children - as long as he wasn't attached to the child's mother. Also, in Return of the Jedi, we see how the 'no attachment' thing destroyed Vader, and that perhaps the Jedi were wrong to prohibit it.
Man, that first Leia scene hits so hard now. RIP Carrie Fisher. Also, the Jedi *were* forbidden emotional attachment but that is part of why they were destroyed. He is the 'last Jedi' but he isn't a traditional Jedi either since he didn't follow the Jedi code and specifically didn't do what was asked of him by original Jedi who followed the code such as Yoda and Obi Wan which was kill Vader. Luke saved the entire galaxy and himself with his attachment to his father. A real standout in this movie is like you said, the sound design. The scenes where Kylo uses the Force and especially the lightsaber ignitions, most notably when Finn ignites it outside of Maz's castle and when he and Rey ignite it against Kylo in the final fight are just top tier sound design. It was also just a one liner thing but at Maz's castle, Finn tells Rey that during his first battle he realized that being a stormtrooper isn't what he wanted and that he ran away, right into her. You were correct thinking that was his first battle
I don't think this point of view gets enough play. Luke didn't do what he was told by the only Jedi he knew. He didn't stick to the code. I always felt that Luke could break from tradition and show that attachment can be a strength to Jedi, like in the now non canon books. The Jedi made a lot of bad choices, and that's why they fell. Luke was different and it helped him succeed.
@@thecartoonrobot Spoilers for many future shows and movies that Kaiielle hasn't seen: Clone Wars, Mandalorian, Book of Boba, Episode 8 & 9 spoilers The Jedi broke their rules as soon as they allowed Anakin to start Jedi training. Taking him from his mom after he's already formed his attachment as opposed to where they usually take future Jedi when they're babies was them bending the rules in the very first chronological movie. Sidious exploited and manipulated them and their code perfectly, especially during the Clone Wars. In The Last Jedi, Luke even says that at the height of their power the Jedi allowed Darth Sidious to rise and take over the entire galaxy due to their arrogance. That it's vanity for the Jedi to have believed that the Force is theirs. If all the Jedi are gone, the Force and the Light will still be there as we've seen, it's not *theirs*. All throughout the prequels the Jedi are nothing but arrogant and it leads to their downfall. It definitely gets talked about a lot but it's also overlooked a decent amount like you said. One thing I thought was weird in Book of Boba Fett was when Luke tells Grogu he has to choose between giving up his attachment to Mando to become a Jedi and use Yoda's saber, or give up being a Jedi in order to keep that attachment. It's like D U D E, 5 years ago you saved the ENTIRE galaxy because you didn't want to give up your attachment to someone you didn't even know and had helped enslave the galaxy, but you want this baby to give up the only father figure its ever had? I don't know because I haven't read the books or anything, but in Luke's academy that was destroyed by Kylo, weren't they allowed attachments? I heard that they were but I don't know if that's true or not. I change my mind very often in how I feel about the direction they took Luke Skywalker in the sequel trilogy. I love it and I hate it so much and it doesn't help hearing that Mark Hamill himself hated doing it. Like you said, if anyone was going to make a new Jedi order where they were allowed to have attachment it was going to be Luke, and to know that they were all massacred and he exiled himself for it for years and allowed the First Order to grow in power. At times it just feels so different from the original Luke and there's other moments where it feels like the same exact character.
I watched your full reaction last night. This movie is very special to me, I grew up seeing the original trilogy in theaters in the 90s before the prequels came out. I got to experience the movies and the Darth Vader twist just like my parents did, I've been a Star Wars fan most of my life. I've never been more excited for a movie coming out than this one. I saw it in theaters twice on opening day, I just wasn't ready for it to be over. Plus I saw it at an earlier showing the first time and I wanted to see it in a crowded theater and hear everyone's reactions. Totally worth it. To me, TFA recaptures all of the warmth and magic that makes Star Wars, Star Wars. You commented in your reaction that the force which is Awakening is the force inside Rey, but I've always considered it broader than that. To me it is the reawakening of the magic of Star Wars - not only in-universe, with that of the Jedi, but also in the hearts of the Fandom. It made me incredibly hopeful for what this Trilogy was going to bring. I wish I could say I felt like that potential was fully realized. But still, that doesn't change the fact that this movie, to me, still stands as what I would consider to be the best reboot / follow-up to the original trilogy that I could ever imagine possible. I know not everyone agrees with that, but it's how I feel.
For the why Finn, a person who worked in sanitation, was in battle. Most solders have base jobs given out by rank. The fact he worked cleaning refreshers says something.
BB-8 and R2-D2 -- both like puppiessss.😍🥰 They're adorable and loyal and super brave and just follow you around like a lost pup. I had the privilege of meeting both BB-8 and R2-D2 at Disney World in January 2020... pre-pandemic. Also met a very intimidating Darth Vader and super huggable Chewie. 💕
Kylo Ren is by far my favorite character in the sequel trilogy, I think the best word I would describe him is unbalanced. His lightsaber is also crackly and unhinged which can also be seen as his turmoil within.
I think your initial feelings were correct about Kylo talking to Han. It was just skewed. It wasn't about just trying to trick Han. He meant every word he said. But what he was talking about was more "I want this pain and struggle to end, the pull to the light. I know what I need to do but I don't know if I can. I need to destroy all ties to that life, and that means I have to kill you." It was like you thought, a struggle, painful, complex, just coming from a different direction than you thought. Great reaction, as always!
Since you've already reacted to all of these and I'm late in finding your channel, I'm not spoiling anything hopefully, but Finn in my opinion was the "awakening" in the beginning of the movie he snaps out of the stormtrooper trance and felt what they were doing was wrong. Kylo also notices that feeling when he looks at Finn before boarding his ship. Snoke says before Rey even touches Luke's lightsaber that "there's been an awakening, have you felt it" alluding to Finn. Later on in that scene on mazs planet, when he leaves with the aliens that would give him a ride out, he hears the screams of the people before they died. Similar to obi wan in a new hope, we later do find out he was force sensitive the whole time. Disney just didn't do anything with it because they hate us. I really still love this movie though
I do like this movie, it made me very hopeful for this series. Unfortunately, it really didn't seem like Disney had these all planned out and they just made it up as they went. I will elaborate more after you're done with these. I am very interested to hear your opinion and how you see it. Till then, take care!
I think they were tryjng to do what Lucas did, who also didnt plan out the originals and made it up as he went. Unfortunatly it didnt turn out the same way, but i still enjoy them for what they are.
@@magicconchshell The issue with that is that the originals had the benefit of being...well, the first SW films. And at the very least, Lucas realised that after the first he wanted to focus on the theme of a father sacrificing himself for his children The prequels and sequels were a bit different as one had to be planned out to serve as the beginning of the saga, while the other should have been planned out to serve as the end to the saga. The originals served as the middle chapter :)
@@onemoreminute0543 I agree, though I do feel even the prequels took a lot of liberties with the existing story. Like Obi-Wan and his whole story to Luke about how Anakin was already a "great pilot" when they met (losing all but one pod race never satisfied that for me). Clearly the original intent was that Anakin was older than 10 when he met him. And how he said he decided to take Anakin on (when it seems he really didn't have a choice but to do it or refuse his master's dying wish.) Or that Yoda was his teacher (maybe as a youngling). It works vaguely in the sense of his "From a certain point of view" motif in Jedi (which was again a way to explain away changes made to tell the extended story, but the truth is, liberties are taken to tell the story someone wants to tell with the movies as they go on, but the previously ones don't quite fit that story. It's a long standing Star Wars tradition.
@@thecartoonrobot In a sense they are plot holes, but they don't really harm the characters. If anything, those changes were great as they instead added to the characters. Having Anakin be younger made his departure from his mother more poignant (adding to the tragedy when they reunited) and having Obi-Wan train him as his master's dying wish showed how he was unprepared to take on an apprentice. He wasn't able to fulfill the role as Anakins father figure, unlike Qui-Gon. Having Qui-Gon be Obi-Wans main master was good as well as their differences complemented each other for TPM and it showed their differences in approach (Qui-Gon was 'feel, don't think. Trust your instincts' while Obi-Wan was 'Use the Force, think!') By the end of the prequels, Obi-Wan and Yoda realized that their initial approach was flawed and so followed the example he set when training Luke. Of course I suppose the 'from a certain point of view' aspect works well too :)
There are plenty of things that could said about this movie that are negative, but it's super refreshing how you are watching the movie "in the moment" with an open mindset. I left the theater really down on the movie because of the expectations that I took with me into the theater. You didn't do that here when you watched it... it seemed very much like you let the movie be what it was trying to be, and appreciated it for what it was. And that's inspiring. Especially in a polarizing world where we can be so quick to judge (even if we're right), I appreciate the cool-headed approach that you bring.
Hope you enjoyed this one Kaiielle. I really liked this one. My only criticism was the lack of explanation for the First Order. After ROTJ, as far as we knew, a new Republic would have been established and all was well with the world. OK, 2 criticisms: Kylo Ren generally behaving like a ranting child as opposed to a trained Force user.
Everything your wondering is in the novel Bloodline. Its a great book, but i do agree it should have been in the film. Though to be fair, the prequels had a lot of unaswered questions i wasnt happy with until clone wars came out
Honestly really didn’t mind this movie. I love that other fans love this movie and it brought in a bunch of new Star Wars fans. Only really issues I ever had with it is, how does the first order just appear and is this reckoning force that the new republic couldn’t recognize. And the fact that Rey is so powerful off the start with zero training. She just felt like a Mary Sue kinda character in this movie to me I would’ve love to see more Finn but that’s just my opinion. Glad you enjoyed!
@@magicconchshell yes I was gonna add that in the comment that the information is available but it would’ve been cool to see it in the movie is some form too
I don't think I have heard the 'Finn's first combat epiphany' expounded, yet it makes perfect sense. Mind you, I never thought that merely one stormtrooper rebelling was a problem.
The original stormtropers from the prequals were clones, genetically engineered to obey all orders. Once those got used up in the Clone Wars and after, the Empire had to start conscripting children. Some of them would choose to rebel or run away, which is why the officers have to be very strict with them.
And of all the awesomeness that is Harrison ford, and Han Solo, y now favorite movie lines of all time is the way Han says "Ben!" in PERFECT Dad voice, I swear in the theater I jumped up and said Yes sir!
My take on the Han Solo confrontation with Kylo Ren wasn't so much that Kylo tricked him, but that he was deeply conflicted. He was struggling against what he earlier referred to as "the pull to the light". It could have gone either way, but in the crucial moment, his desire to be the new Vader, to earn his grandfather's mantle, tipped the scales. He thought by killing his father, that dark act would at last cement him within the dark side, it would wash away his doubts and give him the resolve and surety he was craving. And in the moment after he committed to that path, when his father looked in his eyes, touched his cheek for the last time, he was faced with the terrifying reality that it didn't work. He killed his father, and he felt more lost than ever.
This was the first Star Wars I saw in theaters. And I was in the minority of people who thoroughly enjoyed this movie. I thought it was a great set up for a trilogy. But of course the other two utterly ruined it and now this movie is terrible as well.
Loved your triple "what!" at 21:00 after Snoke revealing Kylo's father. Looking forward to your reactions for the rest of the movies 😉 Big fan of you, greetings from Chile! (Edit: timestamp)
The sound design was great, but I enjoyed the creations from the original trilogy, too. Some of them include: Chewbacca's noises, the sound of the TIE fighters screeching, Vader's breathing, and the hum and crackles of lightsabers. So iconic!
I loved this at the movies, though I did get a little miffed by the lack of originality (that's why I love the prequels, they're so different). In terms of dislikes, my main reason for disliking the last three movies was that there were three books, written before the Phantom Menace came out, which effectively made (in my opinion) a much better 7,8 and 9. They used the old characters wisely and massively expanded the universe. My problems with 78&9 don't really start until the next film but watching it with someone else who has an open mind has a way of making me re-think my opinions, so I'm excited to do that. I feel these movies would have been better without the original cast, so they wouldn't have to kill Han - and they wouldn't have to break up Han and Leia's relationship.
The audio element of the force was always there in all the films. Ben burtt had added a rumbling whenever the force was used. The sound design and surround sound mix of the original trilogy changed the game and created sound design as we know it today. You really can't judge the sound by just listening to two channels on a pair of headphones. 5.1/7.1 or atmos is a must. The LFE channel contains all the force effects. The deep rumble was always there. If you're hearing it super loud now in this film, it's because the mix actually isn't the best when being mixed down to just two channels. Also, it's just following the trend of making everything louder and bass-er. Trying to make everything stand out. The subtle of sound is all but gone. The lightsabers have the same change. They are also bass-er and rumble more now as well. Sadly the music mix was not as well as the other films -- play the opening crawls of Jedi vs Force Awakens and hear how much more hallow the music is. And the "punch" of the opening is just gone. Just gotta point out that disney did not "make" the decisions they oversee Lucasfilm now that they own it and can veto $hit they don't like. But this is still a Lucasfilm production -- along with JJ's company along the ride. Just like a Marvel production is one of theirs. Looking forward to the next reaction 👍🏻
Props to all your returning videos. Saw this one in theatres and left curiously optimistic about the future films, mainly because they were basically re-doing the Darth Caedus arc from the Expanded Universe. Sure it was very plagiaristic but understandable if they wanted to play it safe with the 1st outing.
Glad you are enjoying this movie. I grew up with the original trilogy and it will always be "my" Star Wars, but I was able to enjoy all nine of the Skywalker Saga (these Episode numbered movies). While they all have some plot holes, I am able to let myself be entertained and enjoy them. Looking forward to the reactions for the next two.
So... remember that Star Wars is, and probably always will be poetry. Everything "rhymes" or mirrors something. Kylo Ren/Ben Solo is a mirror to Anakin/Vader. Anakin was on the Light Side but struggled with the Dark Side pulling at him. Ben Solo is Dark Side, struggling against the Light Side in his core. This internal conflict is not only represented by his clear instability, but his lightsaber is also a reflection of it. It was explained that the reason his lightsaber's blade is unstable/fire-like is because the Kaiber crystal within it is cracked (something that happens when a Dark Side user fails to fully bleed/corrupt their crystal into a red one, which is the result of the person not being fully gone into the Dark). Also fun fact: In Colin Trevorrow's original version of Episode IX, Kylo would have gone 100% full Dark Side (Sith eyes and all), and this would be seen by his crossguard lightsaber being fully stable, symbolizing his full immersion into the darkness.
This is my second favourite SW movie; after Rogue One and ahead of the only original movie I watch on a regular basis, The Empire Strikes Back. It also has my favourite character in the entirety of Star Wars; Maz Kanata, who is followed by Jyn Erso; General Leia, Chewbacca, Rey; Finn; Poe Dameron and a character still to appear. kerk
I’ve enjoyed all of these Star Wars reactions and I know I will enjoy future reactions. It is a bit disappointing that the Disney plus show reactions are only available on Patreon but I understand. May the force be with you
I'm just now realizing - was the flashback Rey saw when she picked up Luke's lightsaber for the first time some sort of Psychometry? It was like they were trying to show all the emotion it carried with it, but kinda messed it up and showed things that were in the future/unrelated to it, too.
Great reaction KL. Can't wait for the next one. General Hux actor also played Bill Weasley in the Harry Potter movies. I've only seen episodes 8 and 9 once, so will be kinda re-watching it with you. Keep up the good work. 👍 P.S I wrote this before the review was over, so ignore the HP bit. 😜
I think the main thing that people love about this film is that it has so many unanswered questions which leads to there being great potential for the story going forth: -'Why is Rey strong with the Force? Who are her parents?' -'Why did Luke not respond to Han dying or the rise of the First Order?' -'Is there something deeper to Finn's backstory? Why was he the only First Order Stormtrooper to defect? Could he be a Jedi?' -'Woah, who's this crazy new big Sith called Snoke? I wonder where he comes from? ' -'What is Kylos connection to Rey?' -'Wow! Why did Luke's lightsaber call out to Rey? How did Maz Kanata get it?' -'Who the heck are the Knights of Ren? They look so frickin cool! ' -'How did the First Order rise to power after the Empire was destroyed?' -'How exactly did Kylo turn to the dark side?' Well, we don't have any answers to those questions at the moment ladies and gentlemen. You'll get those answers in episode 8. When you watch that film, you'll learn why it's the most divisive Star Wars film to date by far. The answers will either satisfy you or underwhelm you :)
Out of the 3 movies this one is by far my favourite. While I have some serious issues with it I can appreciate that it's a good movie on it's own. But I'm not the biggest star wars fan so I don't have the OCD attachment some people seem to have.
same for me. it has its issues, but out of the three its the best and consistent one. everything that comes after is strange, unconsistent mess. especially ep. 9
Hi Kaiielle you sold me I am subscribing now. You have the most beautiful eyes, a very nice smile and I love your laugh. I also love watching your reactions and love your input on this movie. I feel this movie was the best of the sequels even though it was basically a rip off of a New Hope. The next 2 sequels were erratic and lacked continuity and a lot of questions were unanswered. However the cinematography and the visuals of these sequels were amazing.
I actually liked this movie, because I’ve been a Star Wars fan since seeing new Hope in its original theatrical release. And when Disney bought the property I was excited tor new Star Wars movies. This was a great beginning in my opinion. I hope you enjoy the next two.
Sorry I'm seeing this so late! So hyped for your reaction for the new trilogy. Although not my favorite of the three trilogies I'm still excited to enjoy it with others! Can't wait to watch your Patreon reactions too!
46:06 I suddenly find myself wondering if anybody's ever drawn your attention to the animated series, "Droids" - back when only the original trilogy existed it was the official story of R2-D2 and C-3PO's life together before they joined the Rebellion.
Another GREAT Reaction!!!!! The cinematography, audio and the use of CGI are absolutely on par for what a movie should be. I like the sequels as movies. But as part of the Star wars universe. I have problems with that. But that would be my opinion. We saw in Revenge if the Sith Obi-Wan pick up Anakin's lightsaber and then proceed to give it Luke after years of him hiding. I'm still wondering how the lightsaber ended up being at Maz Kanata. (Maybe they tell us in the movies how they acquired it and I missed it). Enjoy the next 2 movies. The cinematography and audio are 9n par with this one. I whole heartedly agree with you on having a audio visual when characters are using the force.
The saddest part about the sequels is that the writers bragged about the fact that they have never watched the previous movies or seen any of the other Star Wars mediums. And one writer went into it intentionally saying that he wanted to piss off at least half of the fandom. And he succeeded.
When the movie came out, I enjoyed it even though I had many problems with it I still found it a great movie. My main problem is how similar the story is to A New Hope I'm personality not a big fan of superweapons like the Death Star was cool but then came the 2nd Death Star which I never care for and then this movie came out with Starkiller, pretty much a planet turned into a mega Deathstar which can destroy a whole sector of planets. Was also disappointed at how we didn't get to see the New Republic a faction that plays a massive part in the old EU books, for example, the Thrawn Trilogy so when I saw their Capital Sector and main fleet destroyed, I was like "Well shit there goes the New Republic guess we'll not be seeing them again" but overall I still enjoyed the movie just wish the plot was more unique. After this trilogy, I'm still not a fan of the First Order just don't care about them compared to the Empire, CIS, or the Republic so that impacted my enjoyment of the series. The First Order does have some interesting ships I love their Star Destroyers the Resurgent-class Star Destroyer but everything else isn't too different or upgrades of Imperial ships and vehicles, for example, the First-order Tie Fighters which are two-seater, unlike the previous TIE models. The First order Ties were also outfitted with enhanced weapons and sensor systems as well as a hyperdrive and deflector shields something the Imperial Tie fighters of the Empire did not have. If you recall back to the original movies Tie Fighters couldn't go into hyperspace and they didn't have shields along with no life support which is why Tie pilots had to wear those helmets inside. In other media like games and shows the Tie Fighters had to hook onto the button of a Gozanti-class cruiser which jumped them into command where they would disconnect. If you ever play Star Wars Squadrons, you'll get to experience this fun concept. I remember a lot of people being confused at why the First Order used Tie Fighters 32 years after the Empire thinking stating the ships would be outdated but I personality did not mind as real-world nations like the USA still use ships, planes, Vehicles and jets created 50 years back at the time of the Cold War to the 1980s and the 1990s, so I'm not surprised that the Star Wars universe is the same. The First Order armor is also greatly inspired by Stormtrooper Armor there even referred to as Stormtroopers as well as keeping that whole "New Empire" vibe. I do wish that they started right after Return of the Jedi and made a trilogy about our main characters and the creation of the New Republic to build up to the events of this trilogy which is my biggest problem the lack of worldbuilding in the sequel movies compared to the Prequels for example. The Sequels also lacked a plan pretty much the directors and writers had no idea where this series was heading until like the prequels where since Episode 1 the goal was to show the downfall of Anakin Skywalker and the fall of the Jedi and his transformation into Darth Vader. Sequels on the other hand jump about with ideas some were met, and others didn't go anywhere. The Mandalorian is set 5 years after Return of the Jedi so it has done a lot of worldbuilding, for example, the appearance of the New Republic which I loved but it's still set like 27 years before The Force Awakens so I doubt the show will ever make its way into the Sequel era but it can build up and introduce stuff like maybe the early First Order or a look more at the New Republic in its early days. This is something the new canon books have been doing as well filling in the gaps. My ideal plan would be a trilogy focused on our original trilogy characters set a few years after Return of the Jedi focusing on Luke's Jedi (mentioned in this movie where it's stated the temple was destroyed) Temple along with a look at Leia in the New Republic and maybe some little cameos of characters like Han and maybe even Lando. This of course will focus on the New Republic with the help of Luke's Jedi to hunt down the remaining Imperial forces who have broken up into smaller factions that are overseen by warlords. The movie goes through these events building up the universe currently along with Ben Solo ending with the fall of Luke's Temple. Then we jump 30 years into the future, and this is when the Sequels movies take place using the worldbuilding of the last trilogy to tell its own story without having to copy too much of A New Hope. But overall, 2015 was an amazing year for Star Wars everyone was hyped that a new film was coming out and regardless of how people felt about these movies they can't deny the hype surrounding the film. Hopefully, you enjoyed it, and please don't be turned off by other people’s views 100% watch the other two even if people say don't. I'm not a big Sequel fan myself but it's just silly to force someone to not watch a movie because they don't like it lol I hate Batman and Robin but love to see people react to it for the craic.
I may as well reveal some details here, but the version of the sequels you've described is very similar to what Lucas wanted. He stated that ep 7 would take place 'a few years after Jedi' and it's implied that there would be a timeskip by about 20-ish years in Ep 8 to then focus on the grandchildren as protagonists. It's one of the various issues I have with TFA and the sequels as a whole - they fail to justify their existence as part of the story post ep 6 because , 30 years after that film, it's still the same conflict being fought. However, by starting off a few years after Jedi with Ep 7, it gives room to explain why the story wasn't done yet. In Lucas's version, it was exploring how the fall of the Empire would lead to chaos which had to be resolved :)
@@willfanofmanyii3751 Oh no, this came directly from the 'Star Wars Archives' book which Lucas was interviewed for. I'm more willing to trust info coming straight from the horses mouth as Disney's explanations are contradictory :)
In the books of Star Wars - Lost Stars and the Aftermath trilogy there was a battle over Jakku after the Endor battle and the Empire suffered great losses and that is how the Star Destroyer junkyard was made. After Rey touched the lightsaber is called a "Forceback" to let her know that the force was reaching out to her. Ok why I love the Sequels is I get to see Han, Leia and Luke at around my age (68), I love that Han and Leia are married . My all time favorite scene in all 9 Skywalker Saga films is in this movie. It is the last scene that Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford play Han and Leia. I love that scene very much!!.
Such a great scene with those two. I like that you relate so much because you share the same age with them. Also thanks for the explanation of the ship wrecks.
KL, I know you’ve already started it so this might be a little late but i highly recommend you watch TCW in chronological order instead of season order because it gets so confusing. For reference the first episode chronologically is S2 Ep16 and then S1 Ep16 and then the movie and then S3 Ep1 then S3 Ep3 then finally S1 Ep1 so very very confusing. I made the mistake of watching it out of order and can say seasons 1, 2 and 3 were very confusing at times. You can watch it however you want but just a suggestion from someone who’s watched it both out of order and chronologically before.
I didn't know that Disney rejected George Lucas's story, so I was expecting a lot of things that he probably would've covered. Like what even is the First Order? How does the Resistance relate to the New Republic? None of this was explained at all, yet we're supposed to feel that the destruction of the capital is a big deal. One thing Lucas makes sure to do is make all the planets different from movie to movie as much as possible. One of things I look forward to in Star Wars movies is the variety of locales in each film, especially the prequels. But there is absolutely nothing new and creative here. I saw Jakku and thought "ANOTHER desert planet? Just make it Tatooine since that's basically what it's supposed to be." Then they got to Maz's planet and it was just another forest planet. Ok, I get it, it's very green and Rey has never left the desert. Maybe we'll get some new planets later on. But then we get to where the Rebel, er, Resistance base is, and it's exactly like Yavin in Ep.4. With all the places in the galaxy a secret Resistance could hide their base, THIS is the best they could do? Well, Starkiller base sounds kind of new and interesting, right? Nope, it's just another forest/snow planet. Really? It was really underwhelming and disappointing.
I had a blast with this movie. I had one small complaint about one minor decision but it’s not important. Ok, thank you for acknowledging Chewie should’ve hugged Leia first. My only complaint.
I always felt like Chewie was so distraught he needed alone time. He went from his best friend dying, to crazy escape and stuck in a ship with a bunch of people. I think he needed alone time. I know on two occasions when I lost people that meant the world to me, I was irritated and angry with all of the people trying to hug me and share in my grief and just wanted everyone to leave me alone so I could process and deal. I came back to them for connections and hugging later, but it took time. So, from my personal experience, it made all the sense in the world. But I can see how it was odd for people.
So despite what you've heard about how negative people are about the sequel trilogy, many people including myself really enjoyed The Force Awakens. I was so hyped I saw it back to back on opening night. It was so exciting to have a new Star Wars movie trilogy to discuss and have fan theories on where everything was going. So overall I feel like the initial fan reaction to this movie was very positive. One criticism people had was how it beat for beat pretty much follows A New Hope which you caught right away. That one is pretty much undeniable. However other people didn't like how they explained very little about what has been going on since RotJ and how we got here. One of the most vocal issues along those lines was how the hell is Rey so OP with the Force with apparently no training? There was a lot of back and forth on people calling her a poorly written Mary Sue character while others argued they were being silly as this is just the first movie and clearly they will explain her backstory. All those debates are really wild to think back on now.
Always enjoyed this movie. Not a big fan of the next 2 but this one still holds a special place in my Fandom of Star Wars. Being a prequel kid (Born in 94) I saw the prequels first when I was 7-11 years old. Then watched episode 4, 5, and 6 when I was 12 or 13. So although I recognized that the originals were better I still had this modernized cap on my brain that thought the old movies were kind of slow and action was lacking. So when this came out, it was the perfect combination of great action and fast pacing, but had more elements of the orginal movie in it story wise. This is probably my 5th favorite movie in the 11 movies. I have episode 3, 5, rogue one, 6, and then this and episode 4 kinda tied for 5th since they are basically the same movie lol.
People say there's no facial physical resemblance between Ben Solo and his parents, but I can definitely see it. He has Han's facial features and Leia's brown eyes.
There's a lot to like about the sequels. I especially enjoyed the acting from a lot of the new players: Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, Oscar Isaac, Gwendolyn Christie, Domhnall Gleeson are all great. I'm not a huge fan of Adam Driver, but he was okay and did reasonably well with what he had to work with. The effects, sound design, music, set design, and other aesthetics are all somewhere between "fine" and "great". Lots of good technical stuff in the making of the film. Pretty good character design for the most part. BB-8 is awesome. The most valid criticism of TFA, imo, is its treatment (or mistreatment) of Han Solo. It paints him as a bad father, a bad husband, a bad member of the Rebellion, a bad captain. And then kills him off for no real reason. He dies alone at the bottom of some pit, with no serious emotional weight behind the death. Chewie gets to rage for a second, Leia feels a disturbance in the force, and then we move on. There are lots of other criticisms of the writing that are probably true as well. I've seen it said that the sequel trilogies focus way too much on trying to "fix" the Star Wars entries that came directly before them, which isn't a great production philosophy when what came before was valuable and loved. Changes for the sake of changes. Same with fan service - C3PO wasn't there to further any plot, but just to get him in there. Lots of missed opportunities for emotional moments. Iffy dialogue writing. Snoke sucked. This is probably my 2nd favorite of the sequel trilogy, with Episode VIII being my favorite of the three. They all have their flaws, but there's a lot of good in them. And they're very easy to enjoy if you don't dig too deep.
@@kaiielle Yeah, she's very good in this role. No judgement on not recognizing her! Her suit is so freaking cool that it might draw your focus away from the voice. :)
Those lame commenters are all like "don't even bother watching the sequels, they stink" and I just love how 9 times out of 10 the youtuber reactor actually ends up really enjoying them.
I'm glad you're not sold on Finn, when I first watched this I HATED him and how overcompetent he was for a supposedly inexperienced rookie Stormtrooper - Rey I can buy, her being Force-sensitive, but FN-2187? Whole load of BS! And how does *everyone* (in the First Order) seemingly know him?! With that many Stormtroopers durdling around in full armor most of the time how are they supposed to know and remember each of them, especially someone so apparently insignificant as he was supposed to be? I feel like I had enjoyed this much more if not for him, it did have proper sets and models and all that again. Well, I'm not a fan of Snoke either but he didn't upset me as much as Finn managed to do. XD On more positive side, General Hux was brilliant here, especially his Space-Nazi speech was a definite highlight of the movie! Chilling! And I loved BB-8, I can't help it, cute droids are cute. Looking forward to your continued adventures with this part of the series, it's a little bumpy ride but I think it's still worth it.
I really, really enjoyed this reaction. I hope you enjoy this trilogy - the next is my favorite Star Wars film. They're movies about space wizards with glowsticks, and people forget that sometimes. Can't wait to see what's ahead for your reactions!
I am returning video. :-) Really great reaction again. The more I watch this the more I liked it. I hated Han's death. Great job Kaiielle Also a great trio in Rey, Finn, and Poe. Loved your commentary. I'm really looking forward to the next one. Thank you.
This is Disney we are talking about now, so no loss of limbs in the new movies... Kylo is immature, frustrated and manipulated, don't see blatant toxic masculinity when there is none. Most of the time, what you define as TM is just that... immaturity coupled with insecurity. Females can be like that as well. Just remember the last gesture of Han Solo towards his son; despite beeing assassinated by him, he still showed him some affection. Saving people sometimes only works on long term, but you've got to plant the seeds first and wait. I've delt with many bullies at school, sometimes you've got to recognize to whom apply wich strategy between responding with affection and caring or force. Not all bullies are the same. Some are just lost and insecure, those would need the most love. The others who bully just for the sake of it will respect only one language, someone who is stronger than them and anwsers in kind. Those are definitely not tamable nor can you ever save them, contrary to the first kind. Listen again to the older movies, there is a sound when they use the Force as well, it is just less pronounce. -use the same headphones for a better scientific comparison that is.
26:10 You said "Oh wow, this is very Nazi feeling." There were many intentional parallels between the Empire and Nazi Germany. Palpatine's election as "Chancellor," and then becoming a dictator for example.
If your really enjoying star wars then I highly recommend you start listening to the star wars audiobooks on your own time. They expand the universe even more than the films can. If this is something your interested in I highly recommend getting the Darth Bane Trilogy and Darth Plagueis, these too not only expand the culture, philosophy, and nature of the Sith but also really show that the fall of the Jedi and the Republic was not only inevitable, it was necessary. After that I cannot recommend the original Thrawn Trilogy enough especially if you even more stories with Luke, Leia, Han, and the rest. I really hope you give these a try.
@@kaiielle well I recommend the audio books since all star wars audio books will have music from 1-6 and sound effects to further enhance the experience.
Hey folks! As I begin watching and reacting to the sequels, please be mindful of what you're typing in the comments. Believe it or not, it is possible to explain why you dislike a movie in a constructive way, that is free from insults and hate towards me as a person (or towards others who have commented). Crazy, I know. If you watch the entire video, you'll see that I had some of my own criticisms with this film too, but not enough to dedicate so much negative energy to it. I'm here to have fun, y'all. If you want to bathe in a hate bath, please go watch a RUclips video that bashes on this movie instead. I think you'll be in better company there. 💛
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Yeah. I'm not a fan of these movies in particular as I feel that they fail to carry on the story of Lucas's saga in a consistent and adequate fashion but I'd be lying to be myself if there weren't any bright spots. I really love Finn's character in this movie for example.
Obviously, there are some people who take their criticisms of these films (like the prequels) WAY too far and to toxic extremes. As you said, there are constructive ways to respectfully critique a movie without being outright insulting to it's fans
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Your best introduction to date 🤣 and not a spoiler but something you should know before watching the next movie, Carrie Fisher passed away part way through filming, which effects how some people view the film, not sure if you already knew this or not, because I don't recall you mentioning it before, so I just wanted to bring it up.
The problem really is the next 2 movies and not this particular one.
Yeah, I'm aware. My point still stands.
To this point which film has been your favorite?
JJ Abrams admitted that he made a mistake when Chewie walked by Leia at the end. Instead she hugs Rey, a person she’s never met lol.
JJ 'mystery box with a lens flare' Abrams , amiright? ;)
@@onemoreminute0543 "Don't explain anything that's going on."
But I gotta say that I don't mind it. Chewie just lost his best friend. He walked past everyone because he probably didn't want to talk to anyone. He just wanted to be alone and cry.
@@RamielDerLinke But why would Leia walk right by him?
@@MrZackavelli Yeah, that's definitely weird.
The planet they turned into Starkiller base is Ilum where the Jedi typically went to get a kyber crystal for their lightsaber as one of the final trials to graduate from being younglings
Fun fact: The First Order Stormtrooper that Finn fights against on Takodana and who Rey mindtricks is played by none other than the 007 agent himself, Daniel Craig :)
yeah, he had bit of time in the opposite studio, so popped over to be a storm trooper.
Not the same stormtrooper. It's just the trooper in the interrogation room who is played by Daniel Craig.
@@Progger11 Ah okay. Thanks for clarifying:)
The stormtrooper Daniel Craig plays is JB007
The one who fights Finn is TR8R
(I am not even making this up either, those are their official names)
@@MattSipka TR8R isn't his official name, it's 2199. TR8R is just a fan given name
Can confirm that the sound design was an amazing thing to experience in theatres! It was my very first Star Wars film I'd seen in theatres too so it was truly a one of a kind experience. Also I'm so glad you love BB-8, I think they did an amazing job with his design and mannerisms. Looking forward to see the rest of the reactions for this trilogy!
Thanks Bree. 💛
Scarif only had military-related archives from the Empire (like the Death Star plans). All the other archives, including the map Kylo Ren was talking about, would probably be in Coruscant, the old capital of the Republic which was also the capital of the Empire. So yeah, the First Order probably stole that map from there.
Oh awesome, thanks for clearing that up for me. In Rogue One, it felt like EVERYTHING was on Scarif in that tower.
I’m glad you’re going in headstrong and aware of this being “your” experience. Other reactors get bombarded with passive aggressive comments about the sequels to the point that it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy for reactors, and you can see the that negative comments did unconsciously affect their experience.
I hope you enjoy this journey, and may the force be with you friend.
Thank you. I've seen some reactors not even put out reactions to the sequels at all, I assume because of comments, and that breaks my heart.
@@kaiielle always remember that the prequels got even more hate from the fanbase than these when they first came out.
@@kaiielle You do you and ONLY you, Kaiielle. In my opinion, there's a HUGE amount of fun to be had with the sequels. As far as I can tell, the hate for these movies is born almost entirely out of the fact that the story didn't end up happening the way a fairly large portion of the fanbase thought it should have happened. But there's nothing at all intrinsically wrong with the way it happened, contrary to what the haters would have you believe. I suggest you approach it without any such preconceived notions and there's no reason you shouldn't have an absolute BLAST with the sequels. 🙂
@@magicconchshell this.
The prequels got a massive amount of hate and screams of "This isn't Star Wars! They ruined it!" Heck, there is a fantastic documentary about it, The People VS George Lucas. I was one of those haters, but I've made my peace with the prequels. The same will happen with the sequels over time.
I'ma go ahead and listen to Mark Hamil, who definitely hates the sequels.
I think one of the major issues I have with this film is how poor the world building is. I can understand that , 30 years later, there would be some remnants of the Empire who would want to keep on fighting like neo-nazis did after ww2.
But it's the fact that they've somehow amassed more resources than the Empire and built not just another Death Star, but somehow an even more powerful Death Star that I find baffling from a writing standpoint.
Plus, it kind of seems strange that they had this even bigger, mega Death Star being built and somehow the New Republic did nothing to stop them, despite being the governing force at the time.
And of course, that New Republic gets destroyed before we even see how it operates so that we can revert back to the classic Stormtrooper Vs Rebel conflict people are so familiar with.
I think that's my major issue with this film. It proudly wears the aesthetics of the OG trilogy on its heart but never goes beyond the imagery present and just feels.... shallow.
Just my opinion
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I respect this, thank you for sharing.
@@kaiielle Thanks! Glad opinions can be respected without it devolving into a flamewar like on every Star Wars Reddit forum lol :)
@@onemoreminute0543 Or without insults being hurled at me. 😂
@@kaiielle Yeah, all the way round 🙂👍
You cited the Nazis post World War II. A better example would be Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union. 30 years later, Russia is arguable as powerful as the Soviet Union was.
I'd also point out that in the old EU, the Imperial Renmant remained a potent force 130 years after the battle of Yavin.
Finally, it took the Empire almost 20 years to build the first Death Star. That's a huge expenditure of manpower and resources. Yet they were able to build another Death Star in just 4 years.
These are movies about space wizards. They collapse under too much scrutiny. Much of the criticism of the sequels applies to all of the movies.
I love this reaction so much, on so many levels. That being said, I smiled at this:
kaiielle: "In the movies I've seen so far, the seismic charges were really the only thing that, like, super-stands out, sound-design wise..."
Ben Burtt: "I... I tried my best." *cries himself to sleep in his big pile of Oscars*
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Lightsabers, blasters, ties and x-wings, I don't know how those don't stand out
I’m really an original trilogy guy; wasn’t a huge fan of the prequels though I have revisited them and got more out of them recently. But I have to say when I saw this in the cinema I was about as excited as I was when I saw A New Hope (or as we called it, just Star Wars) in the theatre in 1977. What I loved most of all was the altogether more practical look and feel of the movie - like the originals (pre ‘special editions’). Kudos to you for making your own mind up about these new films. I enjoyed them for the most part.
I agree with all of this 100000000000000000000000000000%!!!
The og trilogy, the second film often is considered the best.
The prequel trilogy, the third film is the best.
The sequel trilogy, the first film is the best.
Same. I saw this 6 times in the theater. Didn’t like the next two but this was an amazing start.
@@MattSipkaThe second film is the best of the Sequel Trilogy
Being a lifelong fan of Star Wars (46yrs, I was 9yo). The original concept and books that followed RotJ, Han and Leia had 3 kids (twins Jaina/Jacen, and Anakin).
Luke married Mara Jade (jedi assassin). When Disney took over, they erased all the books, hence destroying SW Universe.
The Thrawn Trilogy was a much better concept than what Disney spewed out with VII, VIII and IX.
The books in whole, were better in every way.
I have the Thrawn trilogy on my list to read! Along with a few others! 😊
@kaiielle such a good trilogy. Should have been the sequels, instead of what we got, IMHO.
This is the reaction I needed, sometimes I feel like I'm the only person that enjoys this movie. Sure there's problems and its not perfect, but there's so much here to love. Thanks Kaiielle 😊
I loved Finn and Rey in this. And getting Han Back. Loved the line 'I used to be...' the feel of this and its humour was so in line with the original Star Wars where the laughs came from interaction and situation. I don't need the next two. I love this one and can use my imagination about what happens next.
Yeah even as an avid hater of the sequel trilogy I think this movie is fun. A bit dissapointing on the whole story when it came out, but it still looked good and made me excited for the next movie. Unfortunately we know how well that went :P
This one is pretty decent. A little bit of a copy of ep4 but the next two…. Grossssss, some fun action scenes but they didnt do their characters justice
its a ok film my main problem is how its almost beat to beat a rehash of a new hope
@@shaggjones4854 from the trailers, i thought the plot would be that all use of the force had been banned by a fearful new Republic and the Jedi also had been stopped from practicing. That's not what we got, but I loved the film for the characters and how they interacted, although yep, I was disappointed that we got more of the same in slightly different clothes.
I would say Kylo IS having that internal struggle during his confrontation with Han, he's just been twisted inside to think that the dark is the only viable path left for him to feel better and then you see how after than he's off balance, it didn't give him the focus strength that he thought it would. It's also touching how even after being stabbed Han still shows love to his son in how he holds his cheek and how for as upset as Chewie is, he shoots for Kylo's leg/hip cause having seen him and than with blasters previously he could have killed I'm right there. There's 100% more going on under the surface with Kylo/Ben, the choices that he's made, the choices other's made that while well intended hurt him years prior but that's for later
During production there was a quote from Mark Hamill about BB-8. I forget the exact quote but it was something along the lines of it being difficult to make a droid cuter than R2-D2…and then he saw BB-8 and was like “well played.”
Han and Leia are my parents and married for 29 years (February 19th, 1993).
#HanandLeia #RememberWhen #February19th #1993
Harrison Ford had been wanting Han Solo to die since at least Return Of The Jedi.
Han was supposed to die in episode 5, after being frozen on Carbonite, but George Lucas changed his mind and "convinced" ($) Harrison Ford to come back almost last minute to do episode 6 (they quickly rewrote the movie to include him, and that's why Han Solo's arc/storyline in episode 6 is kinda weak compared to the previous two movies).
I remember him holding up that sign after TFA which read : HAN IS DEAD YAY 😂
This was a perfect way to kick start the return of Star Wars. Everything felt comfortable, the flow of the story was very recognizable and allowed the audience to just jump right back into the world of Star Wars. Glad you are enjoying these, and love your open mind to let the story tellers tell/show you the story they want to tell.
"story they want to tell"
lmfao.
@Gerald H
The guy just calls out the trash story.
@Gerald H Pinned post means nothing when the cast and crew said they had no story in mind, lol.
@Gerald H perhaps YOU need to read the pinned comment wise guy. It talks about hateful comments towards others, which hasnt happened in this thread as no insults towards you or
kaiielle were used. He simply trashed the movies story, comment says nada about that
@Gerald H it was very constructive, Star Wars fans felt it exactly as it was the story is trash, totally unoriginal just a rehash of A New Hope then it just goes downhill from there.
The start of my favorite Star Wars trilogy
(Yes, I said it)
About Finn knowing his way around the restricted area... Yeah, EVERYONE underestimates the access janitors have.
LOL this is very true.
Thanks to this creatively bankrupt movie, we will never again have Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher together in a scene.
Interesting fact. BB-8's design was imagined as far back as the first films but the limited technology of the time kept him from being implemented. That has since been rectified and he's even a full on practical effect.
Also if your curious why the beam of Kylo's Crossguard saber crackles like that, its because the kyber crystal inside it is cracked. Its symbolic of the divide inside him.
I love that so much!
Having gone through and watched your other reactions last week this is probably the one I was most excited for to see how you responded to the continuation of everyone's stories and the new Protagonists! I'll be honest I absolutely LOVE this film and it's one of my favourites, despite the hate the Sequels get I think this was a great starting point for a trilogy and a lot of fun.
A couple of things, you're so right about Kylo Ren being a complex character, and really he wasn't trying to lie or bluff Han, he really was being torn apart between the two sides of the force, "I know what I have to do but I don't know if I have the strength to do it" was killing Han and thus trying to embrace the Dark Side by cutting out the light to try and stop that internal conflict. The lighting in that scene is also great, as the sun fades it's a personification of the Light leaving Kylo, you'll see the aftermath of that choice in the next films.
Also the fact you picked up on the Bloody Hand print on Finn's helmet, I remember that being a big thing at the time as blood was so rarely seen in Star Wars as Lightsabers cauterize wounds and Blasters leave burns, it really added a bit of reality to Finn's first Battle and it's a unique perspective you never really get to see.
I'm looking forward to your thoughts about Rey, thinking she could be Luke's daughter because theories were absolutely rampant about who she could be or who she might be related to or not throughout this whole trilogy.
In the old expanded Universe (which I haven't read but know of) which is no longer Canon after the sequels came out. Luke did actually Marry a Jedi named Mara Jade as he was the head of the New Jedi Order he adapted it as it went forward as he learnt about the past mistakes of the Jedi. They actually had a child called Ben Skywalker obviously named after Obi-Wan. In the books Leia and Han have three Children, Anakin, Jaina and Jacen Solo, naturally the Skywalker bloodline each had issues with falling to he Dark Side since the original Anakin was a conception by the Force, what is interesting about Skywalker blood though is their ability to come back from it where many others can't. It's interesting to see that the films did take some inspiration from the old canon books namely when creating Kylo Ren/Ben Solo's character!
I'm glad you picked up on the way they utilised the Force in this film expanding on it's uses that are typically seen in the books, games and Cinematics rather than the films itself, like freezing someone in place, knocking them out or probing their mind. I still remember an audible shock from the Midnight showing when Kylo stopped the blaster bolt, you just knew everyone gasped so I'm glad you had a similar reaction!
Also just have to mention the sweeping "one-shot" of Poe's Black X-Wing taking out all those Tie Fighters it's just so fantastic at showing he's the best Pilot in the fleet and "Scherzo for X-Wings" is such a brilliant piece by John Williams which ties that whole scene together from the X-wings arrival at Maz' Castle!
A few fun callbacks too, in the opening with Poe and Lor San Tekka when Poe mentions the General Lor says "to me she's Royalty" referencing her status as Princess Leia which many may have forgotten about now that 30 years have passed his Alderaan was destroyed so new generations wouldn't necessarily know that.
When Rey & Finn are running from Jakku and she suggests the Quad Jumper Finn says "what about that ship" to the one off camera, Rey says that ship is "Garbage" similar to how Luke called it a "Piece of Junk" in A New Hope.
It might be worth looking up the Battle of Jakku (after you finish the trilogy to avoid potential spoilers) as there is background out there about how the Star Destroyers ended up wrecked there and even the Helmet Rey is wearing when eating.
There's also a couple of fun Cameos too, Unkar Plutt (the pudgy alien who gives out the portions) is actually Simon Pegg, he's friends with J.J Abrams after Mission Impossible and Star Trek and got offered that little role because he's such a huge fan of Star Wars.
James Bond himself also appears as Daniel Craig plays Stormtrooper JB-007, the one who gets Jedi Mind tricked into letting Rey go, if you re-watch that scene you'll likely be able to recognise his voice.
All in all I'm excited to see you react to the rest and I might just have to hop onto Patreon for even more because there's so much you'll enjoy from the series! Even if I think The Force Awakens is probably the best of the sequels, I can still enjoy the others as Star Wars is like Pizza "even when it's bad it's still pretty good" and there's enjoyable/fun/cool/epic moments to be found in all of them!
The Jedi prohibit attachment, but not physical affection etc. So without going into specific details, Luke could've had children - as long as he wasn't attached to the child's mother. Also, in Return of the Jedi, we see how the 'no attachment' thing destroyed Vader, and that perhaps the Jedi were wrong to prohibit it.
Man, that first Leia scene hits so hard now. RIP Carrie Fisher. Also, the Jedi *were* forbidden emotional attachment but that is part of why they were destroyed. He is the 'last Jedi' but he isn't a traditional Jedi either since he didn't follow the Jedi code and specifically didn't do what was asked of him by original Jedi who followed the code such as Yoda and Obi Wan which was kill Vader. Luke saved the entire galaxy and himself with his attachment to his father. A real standout in this movie is like you said, the sound design. The scenes where Kylo uses the Force and especially the lightsaber ignitions, most notably when Finn ignites it outside of Maz's castle and when he and Rey ignite it against Kylo in the final fight are just top tier sound design. It was also just a one liner thing but at Maz's castle, Finn tells Rey that during his first battle he realized that being a stormtrooper isn't what he wanted and that he ran away, right into her. You were correct thinking that was his first battle
I don't think this point of view gets enough play. Luke didn't do what he was told by the only Jedi he knew. He didn't stick to the code. I always felt that Luke could break from tradition and show that attachment can be a strength to Jedi, like in the now non canon books.
The Jedi made a lot of bad choices, and that's why they fell. Luke was different and it helped him succeed.
@@thecartoonrobot Spoilers for many future shows and movies that Kaiielle hasn't seen:
Clone Wars, Mandalorian, Book of Boba, Episode 8 & 9 spoilers
The Jedi broke their rules as soon as they allowed Anakin to start Jedi training. Taking him from his mom after he's already formed his attachment as opposed to where they usually take future Jedi when they're babies was them bending the rules in the very first chronological movie. Sidious exploited and manipulated them and their code perfectly, especially during the Clone Wars. In The Last Jedi, Luke even says that at the height of their power the Jedi allowed Darth Sidious to rise and take over the entire galaxy due to their arrogance. That it's vanity for the Jedi to have believed that the Force is theirs. If all the Jedi are gone, the Force and the Light will still be there as we've seen, it's not *theirs*. All throughout the prequels the Jedi are nothing but arrogant and it leads to their downfall. It definitely gets talked about a lot but it's also overlooked a decent amount like you said. One thing I thought was weird in Book of Boba Fett was when Luke tells Grogu he has to choose between giving up his attachment to Mando to become a Jedi and use Yoda's saber, or give up being a Jedi in order to keep that attachment. It's like D U D E, 5 years ago you saved the ENTIRE galaxy because you didn't want to give up your attachment to someone you didn't even know and had helped enslave the galaxy, but you want this baby to give up the only father figure its ever had? I don't know because I haven't read the books or anything, but in Luke's academy that was destroyed by Kylo, weren't they allowed attachments? I heard that they were but I don't know if that's true or not. I change my mind very often in how I feel about the direction they took Luke Skywalker in the sequel trilogy. I love it and I hate it so much and it doesn't help hearing that Mark Hamill himself hated doing it. Like you said, if anyone was going to make a new Jedi order where they were allowed to have attachment it was going to be Luke, and to know that they were all massacred and he exiled himself for it for years and allowed the First Order to grow in power. At times it just feels so different from the original Luke and there's other moments where it feels like the same exact character.
I watched your full reaction last night. This movie is very special to me, I grew up seeing the original trilogy in theaters in the 90s before the prequels came out. I got to experience the movies and the Darth Vader twist just like my parents did, I've been a Star Wars fan most of my life.
I've never been more excited for a movie coming out than this one. I saw it in theaters twice on opening day, I just wasn't ready for it to be over. Plus I saw it at an earlier showing the first time and I wanted to see it in a crowded theater and hear everyone's reactions. Totally worth it.
To me, TFA recaptures all of the warmth and magic that makes Star Wars, Star Wars. You commented in your reaction that the force which is Awakening is the force inside Rey, but I've always considered it broader than that. To me it is the reawakening of the magic of Star Wars - not only in-universe, with that of the Jedi, but also in the hearts of the Fandom. It made me incredibly hopeful for what this Trilogy was going to bring. I wish I could say I felt like that potential was fully realized. But still, that doesn't change the fact that this movie, to me, still stands as what I would consider to be the best reboot / follow-up to the original trilogy that I could ever imagine possible. I know not everyone agrees with that, but it's how I feel.
I love this comment! Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me and thanks for joining Patreon to watch the uncut of this. I'm glad you enjoyed it! ☺️
For the why Finn, a person who worked in sanitation, was in battle. Most solders have base jobs given out by rank. The fact he worked cleaning refreshers says something.
BB-8 and R2-D2 -- both like puppiessss.😍🥰 They're adorable and loyal and super brave and just follow you around like a lost pup. I had the privilege of meeting both BB-8 and R2-D2 at Disney World in January 2020... pre-pandemic. Also met a very intimidating Darth Vader and super huggable Chewie. 💕
When Kylo Ren takes his helmet off I just hear squidward’s voice going “oh no, he’s hot” 😂😂
Adam Driver is a v attractive man. 👀
I agree to that!
Kylo Ren is by far my favorite character in the sequel trilogy, I think the best word I would describe him is unbalanced. His lightsaber is also crackly and unhinged which can also be seen as his turmoil within.
I think your initial feelings were correct about Kylo talking to Han. It was just skewed. It wasn't about just trying to trick Han. He meant every word he said. But what he was talking about was more "I want this pain and struggle to end, the pull to the light. I know what I need to do but I don't know if I can. I need to destroy all ties to that life, and that means I have to kill you." It was like you thought, a struggle, painful, complex, just coming from a different direction than you thought. Great reaction, as always!
I like this analysis! Thank you.
@@kaiielle Thank you. Like Han said, Ben isn't dead, that's why he struggled with what he felt he had to do.
I will never forget seeing this on the big screen. 7yrs later and I'm still not over Han Solo's death
I kind of wish I could go back in time and watch this one in the theatres.
The original series will always win my heart ❤️
BB-8 Is the actual best, this is the best take-away from this. I'm so hype for you, what a fun ride this was!!
'One quarter portion.' Memories of trading in old comics.
Since you've already reacted to all of these and I'm late in finding your channel, I'm not spoiling anything hopefully, but Finn in my opinion was the "awakening" in the beginning of the movie he snaps out of the stormtrooper trance and felt what they were doing was wrong. Kylo also notices that feeling when he looks at Finn before boarding his ship. Snoke says before Rey even touches Luke's lightsaber that "there's been an awakening, have you felt it" alluding to Finn. Later on in that scene on mazs planet, when he leaves with the aliens that would give him a ride out, he hears the screams of the people before they died. Similar to obi wan in a new hope, we later do find out he was force sensitive the whole time. Disney just didn't do anything with it because they hate us. I really still love this movie though
I do like this movie, it made me very hopeful for this series. Unfortunately, it really didn't seem like Disney had these all planned out and they just made it up as they went. I will elaborate more after you're done with these. I am very interested to hear your opinion and how you see it. Till then, take care!
I think they were tryjng to do what Lucas did, who also didnt plan out the originals and made it up as he went. Unfortunatly it didnt turn out the same way, but i still enjoy them for what they are.
@@magicconchshell The issue with that is that the originals had the benefit of being...well, the first SW films. And at the very least, Lucas realised that after the first he wanted to focus on the theme of a father sacrificing himself for his children
The prequels and sequels were a bit different as one had to be planned out to serve as the beginning of the saga, while the other should have been planned out to serve as the end to the saga. The originals served as the middle chapter
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@@onemoreminute0543 I agree, though I do feel even the prequels took a lot of liberties with the existing story. Like Obi-Wan and his whole story to Luke about how Anakin was already a "great pilot" when they met (losing all but one pod race never satisfied that for me). Clearly the original intent was that Anakin was older than 10 when he met him. And how he said he decided to take Anakin on (when it seems he really didn't have a choice but to do it or refuse his master's dying wish.) Or that Yoda was his teacher (maybe as a youngling).
It works vaguely in the sense of his "From a certain point of view" motif in Jedi (which was again a way to explain away changes made to tell the extended story, but the truth is, liberties are taken to tell the story someone wants to tell with the movies as they go on, but the previously ones don't quite fit that story. It's a long standing Star Wars tradition.
@@thecartoonrobot In a sense they are plot holes, but they don't really harm the characters. If anything, those changes were great as they instead added to the characters.
Having Anakin be younger made his departure from his mother more poignant (adding to the tragedy when they reunited) and having Obi-Wan train him as his master's dying wish showed how he was unprepared to take on an apprentice. He wasn't able to fulfill the role as Anakins father figure, unlike Qui-Gon.
Having Qui-Gon be Obi-Wans main master was good as well as their differences complemented each other for TPM and it showed their differences in approach (Qui-Gon was 'feel, don't think. Trust your instincts' while Obi-Wan was 'Use the Force, think!')
By the end of the prequels, Obi-Wan and Yoda realized that their initial approach was flawed and so followed the example he set when training Luke.
Of course I suppose the 'from a certain point of view' aspect works well too
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Yes, The Force Awakens is 30 years after Return of the Jedi.
Which would mean every character including Grogu from the tv shows has to be so long dead that nobody even remember Jedi.... again.
There are plenty of things that could said about this movie that are negative, but it's super refreshing how you are watching the movie "in the moment" with an open mindset. I left the theater really down on the movie because of the expectations that I took with me into the theater. You didn't do that here when you watched it... it seemed very much like you let the movie be what it was trying to be, and appreciated it for what it was. And that's inspiring. Especially in a polarizing world where we can be so quick to judge (even if we're right), I appreciate the cool-headed approach that you bring.
Thank you so much! I really appreciate this.
Hope you enjoyed this one Kaiielle. I really liked this one. My only criticism was the lack of explanation for the First Order. After ROTJ, as far as we knew, a new Republic would have been established and all was well with the world. OK, 2 criticisms: Kylo Ren generally behaving like a ranting child as opposed to a trained Force user.
I agree with you on the Kylo tantrums.
Everything your wondering is in the novel Bloodline. Its a great book, but i do agree it should have been in the film. Though to be fair, the prequels had a lot of unaswered questions i wasnt happy with until clone wars came out
Honestly really didn’t mind this movie. I love that other fans love this movie and it brought in a bunch of new Star Wars fans. Only really issues I ever had with it is, how does the first order just appear and is this reckoning force that the new republic couldn’t recognize. And the fact that Rey is so powerful off the start with zero training. She just felt like a Mary Sue kinda character in this movie to me I would’ve love to see more Finn but that’s just my opinion. Glad you enjoyed!
Everything about the first order, resistance, and new republic is answered in the novel Bloodline. You should check it out. Its really good.
@@magicconchshell yes I was gonna add that in the comment that the information is available but it would’ve been cool to see it in the movie is some form too
@@magicconchshell I don't want to do homework in order to enjoy a movie. That is just lazy movie making.
I don't think I have heard the 'Finn's first combat epiphany' expounded, yet it makes perfect sense. Mind you, I never thought that merely one stormtrooper rebelling was a problem.
The original stormtropers from the prequals were clones, genetically engineered to obey all orders. Once those got used up in the Clone Wars and after, the Empire had to start conscripting children. Some of them would choose to rebel or run away, which is why the officers have to be very strict with them.
And of all the awesomeness that is Harrison ford, and Han Solo, y now favorite movie lines of all time is the way Han says "Ben!" in PERFECT Dad voice, I swear in the theater I jumped up and said Yes sir!
It was a very Dad moment.
My take on the Han Solo confrontation with Kylo Ren wasn't so much that Kylo tricked him, but that he was deeply conflicted. He was struggling against what he earlier referred to as "the pull to the light". It could have gone either way, but in the crucial moment, his desire to be the new Vader, to earn his grandfather's mantle, tipped the scales. He thought by killing his father, that dark act would at last cement him within the dark side, it would wash away his doubts and give him the resolve and surety he was craving. And in the moment after he committed to that path, when his father looked in his eyes, touched his cheek for the last time, he was faced with the terrifying reality that it didn't work. He killed his father, and he felt more lost than ever.
This was the first Star Wars I saw in theaters. And I was in the minority of people who thoroughly enjoyed this movie. I thought it was a great set up for a trilogy. But of course the other two utterly ruined it and now this movie is terrible as well.
Loved your triple "what!" at 21:00 after Snoke revealing Kylo's father.
Looking forward to your reactions for the rest of the movies 😉
Big fan of you, greetings from Chile!
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Thank you! My stepdad is from Chile! I spent a month there in 2016. Lovely country and people.
@@kaiielle Nice! Hope you've tried the Chilean "completo" :D
Que la Fuerza esté contigo, siempre.
The sound design was great, but I enjoyed the creations from the original trilogy, too. Some of them include: Chewbacca's noises, the sound of the TIE fighters screeching, Vader's breathing, and the hum and crackles of lightsabers. So iconic!
I like that you said General Hux seemed like Harry Potter when that same actor played Bill Weasley in Harry Potter.
Oh, I know. 😅 But I promise that wasn't why I said that! 🤣
@@kaiielle And his dad Brendan Gleeson played Mad eye Moody in the HP films
@@MarkLloyd72 Yep, knew that! I am a huge fan of Harry Potter. Read the first book when I was 8 or 9 and grew up with the whole series and films.
Have had such a shitty week and really great to see another video from you., really put a smile on my face. Keep it up, love your reactions :)
I loved this at the movies, though I did get a little miffed by the lack of originality (that's why I love the prequels, they're so different). In terms of dislikes, my main reason for disliking the last three movies was that there were three books, written before the Phantom Menace came out, which effectively made (in my opinion) a much better 7,8 and 9. They used the old characters wisely and massively expanded the universe. My problems with 78&9 don't really start until the next film but watching it with someone else who has an open mind has a way of making me re-think my opinions, so I'm excited to do that. I feel these movies would have been better without the original cast, so they wouldn't have to kill Han - and they wouldn't have to break up Han and Leia's relationship.
The audio element of the force was always there in all the films. Ben burtt had added a rumbling whenever the force was used. The sound design and surround sound mix of the original trilogy changed the game and created sound design as we know it today. You really can't judge the sound by just listening to two channels on a pair of headphones. 5.1/7.1 or atmos is a must. The LFE channel contains all the force effects. The deep rumble was always there.
If you're hearing it super loud now in this film, it's because the mix actually isn't the best when being mixed down to just two channels. Also, it's just following the trend of making everything louder and bass-er. Trying to make everything stand out. The subtle of sound is all but gone. The lightsabers have the same change. They are also bass-er and rumble more now as well.
Sadly the music mix was not as well as the other films -- play the opening crawls of Jedi vs Force Awakens and hear how much more hallow the music is. And the "punch" of the opening is just gone.
Just gotta point out that disney did not "make" the decisions they oversee Lucasfilm now that they own it and can veto $hit they don't like. But this is still a Lucasfilm production -- along with JJ's company along the ride. Just like a Marvel production is one of theirs.
Looking forward to the next reaction 👍🏻
I don't think I've ever met someone who loves C-3P0 as much as you do haha! 💛
He's the best boy.
And kylo ren is actually Ben solo
I am not ashamed to admit, I teared up every time an old character appeared. For some of us, we've waited 30 years to see them again.
A lot of great stuff here. Music is great, it was a great theater experience when it released.
Props to all your returning videos. Saw this one in theatres and left curiously optimistic about the future films, mainly because they were basically re-doing the Darth Caedus arc from the Expanded Universe. Sure it was very plagiaristic but understandable if they wanted to play it safe with the 1st outing.
Glad you are enjoying this movie. I grew up with the original trilogy and it will always be "my" Star Wars, but I was able to enjoy all nine of the Skywalker Saga (these Episode numbered movies). While they all have some plot holes, I am able to let myself be entertained and enjoy them. Looking forward to the reactions for the next two.
Appreciate the positivity so many people jump on a band wagon or negative feelings towards all these movies 🎥
So... remember that Star Wars is, and probably always will be poetry. Everything "rhymes" or mirrors something.
Kylo Ren/Ben Solo is a mirror to Anakin/Vader. Anakin was on the Light Side but struggled with the Dark Side pulling at him. Ben Solo is Dark Side, struggling against the Light Side in his core. This internal conflict is not only represented by his clear instability, but his lightsaber is also a reflection of it. It was explained that the reason his lightsaber's blade is unstable/fire-like is because the Kaiber crystal within it is cracked (something that happens when a Dark Side user fails to fully bleed/corrupt their crystal into a red one, which is the result of the person not being fully gone into the Dark). Also fun fact: In Colin Trevorrow's original version of Episode IX, Kylo would have gone 100% full Dark Side (Sith eyes and all), and this would be seen by his crossguard lightsaber being fully stable, symbolizing his full immersion into the darkness.
Ray is not Luke's daughter
34:25 Who knew James Bond was so easily swayed....
This is my second favourite SW movie; after Rogue One and ahead of the only original movie I watch on a regular basis, The Empire Strikes Back. It also has my favourite character in the entirety of Star Wars; Maz Kanata, who is followed by Jyn Erso; General Leia, Chewbacca, Rey; Finn; Poe Dameron and a character still to appear. kerk
I’ve enjoyed all of these Star Wars reactions and I know I will enjoy future reactions. It is a bit disappointing that the Disney plus show reactions are only available on Patreon but I understand. May the force be with you
I'm just now realizing - was the flashback Rey saw when she picked up Luke's lightsaber for the first time some sort of Psychometry? It was like they were trying to show all the emotion it carried with it, but kinda messed it up and showed things that were in the future/unrelated to it, too.
Great reaction KL. Can't wait for the next one. General Hux actor also played Bill Weasley in the Harry Potter movies. I've only seen episodes 8 and 9 once, so will be kinda re-watching it with you. Keep up the good work. 👍
P.S I wrote this before the review was over, so ignore the HP bit. 😜
I think the main thing that people love about this film is that it has so many unanswered questions which leads to there being great potential for the story going forth:
-'Why is Rey strong with the Force? Who are her parents?'
-'Why did Luke not respond to Han dying or the rise of the First Order?'
-'Is there something deeper to Finn's backstory? Why was he the only First Order Stormtrooper to defect? Could he be a Jedi?'
-'Woah, who's this crazy new big Sith called Snoke? I wonder where he comes from? '
-'What is Kylos connection to Rey?'
-'Wow! Why did Luke's lightsaber call out to Rey? How did Maz Kanata get it?'
-'Who the heck are the Knights of Ren? They look so frickin cool! '
-'How did the First Order rise to power after the Empire was destroyed?'
-'How exactly did Kylo turn to the dark side?'
Well, we don't have any answers to those questions at the moment ladies and gentlemen. You'll get those answers in episode 8.
When you watch that film, you'll learn why it's the most divisive Star Wars film to date by far. The answers will either satisfy you or underwhelm you
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Out of the 3 movies this one is by far my favourite. While I have some serious issues with it I can appreciate that it's a good movie on it's own. But I'm not the biggest star wars fan so I don't have the OCD attachment some people seem to have.
same for me. it has its issues, but out of the three its the best and consistent one. everything that comes after is strange, unconsistent mess. especially ep. 9
I agree.
Hi Kaiielle you sold me I am subscribing now. You have the most beautiful eyes, a very nice smile and I love your laugh. I also love watching your reactions and love your input on this movie. I feel this movie was the best of the sequels even though it was basically a rip off of a New Hope. The next 2 sequels were erratic and lacked continuity and a lot of questions were unanswered. However the cinematography and the visuals of these sequels were amazing.
I actually liked this movie, because I’ve been a Star Wars fan since seeing new Hope in its original theatrical release. And when Disney bought the property I was excited tor new Star Wars movies. This was a great beginning in my opinion.
I hope you enjoy the next two.
Just for some context this was the first Star Wars movie that was released in 2015 , we didn’t get a Star Wars movie between 2006/14
Trivia: Starkiller Base, from the original name, rejected before filming, of Skywalker.
Sorry I'm seeing this so late! So hyped for your reaction for the new trilogy. Although not my favorite of the three trilogies I'm still excited to enjoy it with others! Can't wait to watch your Patreon reactions too!
46:06 I suddenly find myself wondering if anybody's ever drawn your attention to the animated series, "Droids" - back when only the original trilogy existed it was the official story of R2-D2 and C-3PO's life together before they joined the Rebellion.
Another GREAT Reaction!!!!!
The cinematography, audio and the use of CGI are absolutely on par for what a movie should be.
I like the sequels as movies. But as part of the Star wars universe. I have problems with that. But that would be my opinion.
We saw in Revenge if the Sith Obi-Wan pick up Anakin's lightsaber and then proceed to give it Luke after years of him hiding. I'm still wondering how the lightsaber ended up being at Maz Kanata. (Maybe they tell us in the movies how they acquired it and I missed it).
Enjoy the next 2 movies. The cinematography and audio are 9n par with this one.
I whole heartedly agree with you on having a audio visual when characters are using the force.
The saddest part about the sequels is that the writers bragged about the fact that they have never watched the previous movies or seen any of the other Star Wars mediums.
And one writer went into it intentionally saying that he wanted to piss off at least half of the fandom. And he succeeded.
The Director admitted that excluding the chewy - leia scene was a mistake
When the movie came out, I enjoyed it even though I had many problems with it I still found it a great movie. My main problem is how similar the story is to A New Hope I'm personality not a big fan of superweapons like the Death Star was cool but then came the 2nd Death Star which I never care for and then this movie came out with Starkiller, pretty much a planet turned into a mega Deathstar which can destroy a whole sector of planets. Was also disappointed at how we didn't get to see the New Republic a faction that plays a massive part in the old EU books, for example, the Thrawn Trilogy so when I saw their Capital Sector and main fleet destroyed, I was like "Well shit there goes the New Republic guess we'll not be seeing them again" but overall I still enjoyed the movie just wish the plot was more unique. After this trilogy, I'm still not a fan of the First Order just don't care about them compared to the Empire, CIS, or the Republic so that impacted my enjoyment of the series.
The First Order does have some interesting ships I love their Star Destroyers the Resurgent-class Star Destroyer but everything else isn't too different or upgrades of Imperial ships and vehicles, for example, the First-order Tie Fighters which are two-seater, unlike the previous TIE models. The First order Ties were also outfitted with enhanced weapons and sensor systems as well as a hyperdrive and deflector shields something the Imperial Tie fighters of the Empire did not have.
If you recall back to the original movies Tie Fighters couldn't go into hyperspace and they didn't have shields along with no life support which is why Tie pilots had to wear those helmets inside. In other media like games and shows the Tie Fighters had to hook onto the button of a Gozanti-class cruiser which jumped them into command where they would disconnect. If you ever play Star Wars Squadrons, you'll get to experience this fun concept.
I remember a lot of people being confused at why the First Order used Tie Fighters 32 years after the Empire thinking stating the ships would be outdated but I personality did not mind as real-world nations like the USA still use ships, planes, Vehicles and jets created 50 years back at the time of the Cold War to the 1980s and the 1990s, so I'm not surprised that the Star Wars universe is the same. The First Order armor is also greatly inspired by Stormtrooper Armor there even referred to as Stormtroopers as well as keeping that whole "New Empire" vibe.
I do wish that they started right after Return of the Jedi and made a trilogy about our main characters and the creation of the New Republic to build up to the events of this trilogy which is my biggest problem the lack of worldbuilding in the sequel movies compared to the Prequels for example. The Sequels also lacked a plan pretty much the directors and writers had no idea where this series was heading until like the prequels where since Episode 1 the goal was to show the downfall of Anakin Skywalker and the fall of the Jedi and his transformation into Darth Vader. Sequels on the other hand jump about with ideas some were met, and others didn't go anywhere.
The Mandalorian is set 5 years after Return of the Jedi so it has done a lot of worldbuilding, for example, the appearance of the New Republic which I loved but it's still set like 27 years before The Force Awakens so I doubt the show will ever make its way into the Sequel era but it can build up and introduce stuff like maybe the early First Order or a look more at the New Republic in its early days. This is something the new canon books have been doing as well filling in the gaps.
My ideal plan would be a trilogy focused on our original trilogy characters set a few years after Return of the Jedi focusing on Luke's Jedi (mentioned in this movie where it's stated the temple was destroyed) Temple along with a look at Leia in the New Republic and maybe some little cameos of characters like Han and maybe even Lando. This of course will focus on the New Republic with the help of Luke's Jedi to hunt down the remaining Imperial forces who have broken up into smaller factions that are overseen by warlords. The movie goes through these events building up the universe currently along with Ben Solo ending with the fall of Luke's Temple. Then we jump 30 years into the future, and this is when the Sequels movies take place using the worldbuilding of the last trilogy to tell its own story without having to copy too much of A New Hope.
But overall, 2015 was an amazing year for Star Wars everyone was hyped that a new film was coming out and regardless of how people felt about these movies they can't deny the hype surrounding the film. Hopefully, you enjoyed it, and please don't be turned off by other people’s views 100% watch the other two even if people say don't. I'm not a big Sequel fan myself but it's just silly to force someone to not watch a movie because they don't like it lol I hate Batman and Robin but love to see people react to it for the craic.
I may as well reveal some details here, but the version of the sequels you've described is very similar to what Lucas wanted.
He stated that ep 7 would take place 'a few years after Jedi' and it's implied that there would be a timeskip by about 20-ish years in Ep 8 to then focus on the grandchildren as protagonists.
It's one of the various issues I have with TFA and the sequels as a whole - they fail to justify their existence as part of the story post ep 6 because , 30 years after that film, it's still the same conflict being fought.
However, by starting off a few years after Jedi with Ep 7, it gives room to explain why the story wasn't done yet. In Lucas's version, it was exploring how the fall of the Empire would lead to chaos which had to be resolved
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@@onemoreminute0543 The problem with that is the only people's word on that is Disney.
@@willfanofmanyii3751 Oh no, this came directly from the 'Star Wars Archives' book which Lucas was interviewed for. I'm more willing to trust info coming straight from the horses mouth as Disney's explanations are contradictory
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There are 30 years in between Ep VI and VII
Thanks for confirming.
In the books of Star Wars - Lost Stars and the Aftermath trilogy there was a battle over Jakku after the Endor battle and the Empire suffered great losses and that is how the Star Destroyer junkyard was made. After Rey touched the lightsaber is called a "Forceback" to let her know that the force was reaching out to her. Ok why I love the Sequels is I get to see Han, Leia and Luke at around my age (68), I love that Han and Leia are married . My all time favorite scene in all 9 Skywalker Saga films is in this movie. It is the last scene that Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford play Han and Leia. I love that scene very much!!.
Such a great scene with those two. I like that you relate so much because you share the same age with them. Also thanks for the explanation of the ship wrecks.
Love your analysis of ep 7. I think you'll like 8 for the most part. Great reaction!
KL, I know you’ve already started it so this might be a little late but i highly recommend you watch TCW in chronological order instead of season order because it gets so confusing. For reference the first episode chronologically is S2 Ep16 and then S1 Ep16 and then the movie and then S3 Ep1 then S3 Ep3 then finally S1 Ep1 so very very confusing. I made the mistake of watching it out of order and can say seasons 1, 2 and 3 were very confusing at times. You can watch it however you want but just a suggestion from someone who’s watched it both out of order and chronologically before.
I am doing it chronologically. ☺️
I didn't know that Disney rejected George Lucas's story, so I was expecting a lot of things that he probably would've covered. Like what even is the First Order? How does the Resistance relate to the New Republic? None of this was explained at all, yet we're supposed to feel that the destruction of the capital is a big deal.
One thing Lucas makes sure to do is make all the planets different from movie to movie as much as possible. One of things I look forward to in Star Wars movies is the variety of locales in each film, especially the prequels. But there is absolutely nothing new and creative here. I saw Jakku and thought "ANOTHER desert planet? Just make it Tatooine since that's basically what it's supposed to be." Then they got to Maz's planet and it was just another forest planet. Ok, I get it, it's very green and Rey has never left the desert. Maybe we'll get some new planets later on.
But then we get to where the Rebel, er, Resistance base is, and it's exactly like Yavin in Ep.4. With all the places in the galaxy a secret Resistance could hide their base, THIS is the best they could do?
Well, Starkiller base sounds kind of new and interesting, right? Nope, it's just another forest/snow planet. Really?
It was really underwhelming and disappointing.
I had a blast with this movie. I had one small complaint about one minor decision but it’s not important.
Ok, thank you for acknowledging Chewie should’ve hugged Leia first. My only complaint.
I always felt like Chewie was so distraught he needed alone time. He went from his best friend dying, to crazy escape and stuck in a ship with a bunch of people. I think he needed alone time.
I know on two occasions when I lost people that meant the world to me, I was irritated and angry with all of the people trying to hug me and share in my grief and just wanted everyone to leave me alone so I could process and deal. I came back to them for connections and hugging later, but it took time. So, from my personal experience, it made all the sense in the world. But I can see how it was odd for people.
@@thecartoonrobot I totally get this and never considered it. Thanks for your comment.
So despite what you've heard about how negative people are about the sequel trilogy, many people including myself really enjoyed The Force Awakens. I was so hyped I saw it back to back on opening night. It was so exciting to have a new Star Wars movie trilogy to discuss and have fan theories on where everything was going. So overall I feel like the initial fan reaction to this movie was very positive.
One criticism people had was how it beat for beat pretty much follows A New Hope which you caught right away. That one is pretty much undeniable. However other people didn't like how they explained very little about what has been going on since RotJ and how we got here. One of the most vocal issues along those lines was how the hell is Rey so OP with the Force with apparently no training? There was a lot of back and forth on people calling her a poorly written Mary Sue character while others argued they were being silly as this is just the first movie and clearly they will explain her backstory. All those debates are really wild to think back on now.
I think a majority of people liked The Force Awakens. I know I did.
@@RebelGaming4U my dad absolutely loved the movie when we saw it together. He still likes to watch it from time to time
Always enjoyed this movie. Not a big fan of the next 2 but this one still holds a special place in my Fandom of Star Wars. Being a prequel kid (Born in 94) I saw the prequels first when I was 7-11 years old. Then watched episode 4, 5, and 6 when I was 12 or 13. So although I recognized that the originals were better I still had this modernized cap on my brain that thought the old movies were kind of slow and action was lacking. So when this came out, it was the perfect combination of great action and fast pacing, but had more elements of the orginal movie in it story wise. This is probably my 5th favorite movie in the 11 movies. I have episode 3, 5, rogue one, 6, and then this and episode 4 kinda tied for 5th since they are basically the same movie lol.
People say there's no facial physical resemblance between Ben Solo and his parents, but I can definitely see it. He has Han's facial features and Leia's brown eyes.
This is when the the Dark Side took over Star Wars
the fact that leia hugs rey and not chewie kinda pissed me off lol
The moment you said you wanted a ben and han face to face my first thought was like no you don’t…
There's a lot to like about the sequels. I especially enjoyed the acting from a lot of the new players: Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, Oscar Isaac, Gwendolyn Christie, Domhnall Gleeson are all great. I'm not a huge fan of Adam Driver, but he was okay and did reasonably well with what he had to work with. The effects, sound design, music, set design, and other aesthetics are all somewhere between "fine" and "great". Lots of good technical stuff in the making of the film. Pretty good character design for the most part. BB-8 is awesome.
The most valid criticism of TFA, imo, is its treatment (or mistreatment) of Han Solo. It paints him as a bad father, a bad husband, a bad member of the Rebellion, a bad captain. And then kills him off for no real reason. He dies alone at the bottom of some pit, with no serious emotional weight behind the death. Chewie gets to rage for a second, Leia feels a disturbance in the force, and then we move on.
There are lots of other criticisms of the writing that are probably true as well. I've seen it said that the sequel trilogies focus way too much on trying to "fix" the Star Wars entries that came directly before them, which isn't a great production philosophy when what came before was valuable and loved. Changes for the sake of changes. Same with fan service - C3PO wasn't there to further any plot, but just to get him in there. Lots of missed opportunities for emotional moments. Iffy dialogue writing. Snoke sucked.
This is probably my 2nd favorite of the sequel trilogy, with Episode VIII being my favorite of the three. They all have their flaws, but there's a lot of good in them. And they're very easy to enjoy if you don't dig too deep.
Oh my gosh, that was Gwendoline?! I'm so upset at myself for not recognizing the voice.
@@kaiielle Yeah, she's very good in this role. No judgement on not recognizing her! Her suit is so freaking cool that it might draw your focus away from the voice. :)
That is probably what happened. I was in love with the CHROME.
You should watch the indiana jones movies if you havent seen them. Or the matrix series.
The guy who plays general hux is another movie with poe the resistance pilot. He plays a normal, non evil, crazy person.
Those lame commenters are all like "don't even bother watching the sequels, they stink" and I just love how 9 times out of 10 the youtuber reactor actually ends up really enjoying them.
He was in the battle at the beginning of the movie because is a stormtrooper. Sanitations are his fonctions when they are not deployed outside
yay! loved this one, especially your final thoughts
Thank you Quisty!
I'm glad you're not sold on Finn, when I first watched this I HATED him and how overcompetent he was for a supposedly inexperienced rookie Stormtrooper - Rey I can buy, her being Force-sensitive, but FN-2187? Whole load of BS! And how does *everyone* (in the First Order) seemingly know him?! With that many Stormtroopers durdling around in full armor most of the time how are they supposed to know and remember each of them, especially someone so apparently insignificant as he was supposed to be? I feel like I had enjoyed this much more if not for him, it did have proper sets and models and all that again. Well, I'm not a fan of Snoke either but he didn't upset me as much as Finn managed to do. XD
On more positive side, General Hux was brilliant here, especially his Space-Nazi speech was a definite highlight of the movie! Chilling! And I loved BB-8, I can't help it, cute droids are cute. Looking forward to your continued adventures with this part of the series, it's a little bumpy ride but I think it's still worth it.
I really, really enjoyed this reaction. I hope you enjoy this trilogy - the next is my favorite Star Wars film. They're movies about space wizards with glowsticks, and people forget that sometimes. Can't wait to see what's ahead for your reactions!
I am returning video. :-) Really great reaction again. The more I watch this the more I liked it. I hated Han's death. Great job Kaiielle Also a great trio in Rey, Finn, and Poe. Loved your commentary. I'm really looking forward to the next one. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
This is Disney we are talking about now, so no loss of limbs in the new movies...
Kylo is immature, frustrated and manipulated, don't see blatant toxic masculinity when there is none. Most of the time, what you define as TM is just that... immaturity coupled with insecurity. Females can be like that as well.
Just remember the last gesture of Han Solo towards his son; despite beeing assassinated by him, he still showed him some affection.
Saving people sometimes only works on long term, but you've got to plant the seeds first and wait.
I've delt with many bullies at school, sometimes you've got to recognize to whom apply wich strategy between responding with affection and caring or force. Not all bullies are the same. Some are just lost and insecure, those would need the most love. The others who bully just for the sake of it will respect only one language, someone who is stronger than them and anwsers in kind. Those are definitely not tamable nor can you ever save them, contrary to the first kind.
Listen again to the older movies, there is a sound when they use the Force as well, it is just less pronounce. -use the same headphones for a better scientific comparison that is.
Great point about the bullying.
26:10 You said "Oh wow, this is very Nazi feeling." There were many intentional parallels between the Empire and Nazi Germany. Palpatine's election as "Chancellor," and then becoming a dictator for example.
If your really enjoying star wars then I highly recommend you start listening to the star wars audiobooks on your own time. They expand the universe even more than the films can. If this is something your interested in I highly recommend getting the Darth Bane Trilogy and Darth Plagueis, these too not only expand the culture, philosophy, and nature of the Sith but also really show that the fall of the Jedi and the Republic was not only inevitable, it was necessary. After that I cannot recommend the original Thrawn Trilogy enough especially if you even more stories with Luke, Leia, Han, and the rest. I really hope you give these a try.
Oh gosh, I have so many books on my to-read list at the moment. 😂 I'll add these with the other 700 books.
@@kaiielle well I recommend the audio books since all star wars audio books will have music from 1-6 and sound effects to further enhance the experience.
@@iaido7 Noted!
Those books are great but they're not canon.