Peyam goes PUTNAM: Destroying a Monster Polar Integral (2021 Putnam A4)

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
  • Peyam goes Putnam: Destroying a monster polar integral. Calculating a hard math competition integral that appeared on the 2021 William Lowell Putnam Exam A4, using calculus techniques such as polar coordinates, averages, change of variables and jacobians, rotations, weierstrass substitution, and inverse trig substitution. In simplest terms, the question is: What is the limit of the integral as the radius of the domain goes to 0. Watch a math professor get destroyed by this seemingly innocent integral. Can you handle the math heat?
    0:00 The Integral
    3:30 Rotation
    6:00 Cleaning this up
    9:50 Polar polar polar
    18:50 Weierstrasssssssssssss
    22:50 The answer
    Big thanks goes to Kiran Kedlaya, for maintaining his Putnam exam webpage: kskedlaya.org/putnam-archive/
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Комментарии • 46

  • @AManWithaZ
    @AManWithaZ 2 года назад +18

    This was great! Very fun to see all these techniques put together. If you still have the energy, hope you can post more of these in the future. Understandable though if you don't, ha. Definitely a monster!

  • @garyhuntress6871
    @garyhuntress6871 2 года назад +14

    "is anyone still watching?" Yes!!!

  • @slavinojunepri7648
    @slavinojunepri7648 Год назад +2

    This video left me speechless. One must have tremendous practice and insight to solve such monster integral, particularly in a math competition.

  • @yoav613
    @yoav613 2 года назад +2

    Wowww.well done for this great solution! Thanks for the detailed solution😃💯💯

  • @sam-eu5mk
    @sam-eu5mk 2 года назад +3

    What a great problem! We can review all the techniques of change of variables and integration by substitution!
    Especially, it is the coolest to convert the integration area to an annulus!

  • @colleen9493
    @colleen9493 2 года назад

    I love the little sound effects at the beginning of each video!

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  2 года назад

      Thank you 😊

  • @joshwoods7207
    @joshwoods7207 2 года назад +1

    How long did it take you to come up with that!?🤣 love your videos!

  • @riadsouissi
    @riadsouissi 2 года назад +1

    I wouldn't have guessed the transformation of x, y to x-y, x+y (equivalent to pi/4 rotation).

  • @two697
    @two697 2 года назад +14

    I could probably solve from 12:55 by myself but there's no way I'd be able to come up with the steps before that

    • @diniaadil6154
      @diniaadil6154 2 года назад

      same , although the polar substitution is pretty straightforward you shouldn't do it right off the bat because of the lonely x's and y's in the nominator

  • @mathalysisworld
    @mathalysisworld 4 месяца назад

    17:40 I was like yes I am still watching!!

  • @Deepak-dg3ud
    @Deepak-dg3ud 2 года назад +1

    Salute

  • @harshchoudhary2817
    @harshchoudhary2817 2 года назад +4

    Once we got everything in terms of x^2+ y^2 , we could have transformed that into polar cordinates and integrated over the region

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  2 года назад +13

      But that’s what I did

    • @harshchoudhary2817
      @harshchoudhary2817 2 года назад +1

      @@drpeyam okay then i should probably watch the complete video before commenting something.. sorry for that. 😂

  • @guitar_jero
    @guitar_jero 2 года назад

    Amazing

  • @nosarcasm1
    @nosarcasm1 2 года назад +1

    I got to the end!

  • @sudhakarmathsacademy
    @sudhakarmathsacademy 2 года назад

    It is really great mathematician

  • @mastershooter64
    @mastershooter64 2 года назад +1

    now let's do this integral on a manifold!

  • @PrudentialViews
    @PrudentialViews 2 года назад +1

    damn your videos interest me even though im like 14 years old trying to learn all of this stuff by myself.

  • @mathalysisworld
    @mathalysisworld 4 месяца назад

    17:47 Can you actually solve without changing the limits from 0 to 2 pi to -pi to pi ? or if we need to , why actually?

  • @popodori
    @popodori 2 года назад

    "did you guess that. probably not". uuhh no, you lost me already before the endless series of u-subs :)

  • @stephenhousman6975
    @stephenhousman6975 2 года назад

    Well I assumed from the start it was going to have some multiple of pi.

  • @SuperYoonHo
    @SuperYoonHo Год назад +1

    Arrrrgh! It is hard! 🤕

  • @Eden-jp4hy
    @Eden-jp4hy 2 года назад

    I thought this was some exercise for a University entrance exam or something of the like.

  • @Szynkaa
    @Szynkaa 2 года назад +1

    I believe that step 4 requires little bit more explanation- why we can actually swap limit and integral. This is often very troublesome. I was trying to solve this problem little different way, and i end up with limit as R-> inf of integral where actually i was NOT allowed to swap limit with integral as i would end up with divergent one.

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  2 года назад +6

      So you want this video to be even longer? 😂

    • @goblin5003
      @goblin5003 2 года назад +1

      We love rigor :D

    • @Szynkaa
      @Szynkaa 2 года назад +1

      @@drpeyam actually yes since i enjoy such math problems and your way of presenting them :)

    • @natevanderw
      @natevanderw 2 года назад

      @@drpeyam Rigor is good.

  • @fabiopilnik827
    @fabiopilnik827 2 года назад

    This is why I'm recording philosophy videos instead of math videos. Congratulations. Mathematician.

  • @lacasadeacero
    @lacasadeacero 2 года назад

    Now see me on figure out the relation between magnitude and angles as inverse measurements on my game dev. Haha!

  • @random19911004
    @random19911004 2 года назад

    Seems a tiny bit dodgy around 12:40 where you simplify the function to be the dominant terms and then just integrate that.

    • @random19911004
      @random19911004 2 года назад

      In the solution it mentions uniform bounded to bring the limit inside.

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  2 года назад

      So you want the video to be even longer? 😂

  • @zeegy99
    @zeegy99 Год назад

    pretty trivial tbh

  • @anthonyymm511
    @anthonyymm511 2 года назад +2

    Haha I got nowhere on this one when I took it last year

    • @mathalysisworld
      @mathalysisworld 4 месяца назад

      oh nice. which university were you representing?

  • @burpleson
    @burpleson 2 года назад

    Very tasty!

  • @tabindausman1552
    @tabindausman1552 2 года назад +1

    First

  • @peterwaksman9179
    @peterwaksman9179 2 года назад

    You could spend time solving problems that are not cooked up to work. Your tricks are not much use in reality.

    • @garyhuntress6871
      @garyhuntress6871 2 года назад +10

      Nonsense. How can you solve real world problems without knowing how to apply all the fundamental tools and techniques?

    • @hOREP245
      @hOREP245 2 года назад +2

      Dr Peyam has plenty of videos about more practical things anyway