There's three other things your videos have going for them, and let's see if the chat section agrees: Besides the cackle, which everyone loves, you also hold tight to an esthetic--- you use incantations, or death sorceries, or blue sorceries, or madness. The second thing is, in so doing, you don't necessarily min-max (except for the occasional helm that adds 10% or whatever). You seem more concerned with extracting the most out of the tools as they're constructed, and you use them to their utmost. Even the bad ones. The third thing is... and I feel confident in saying this since I've watched at least 250 hours of your videos... is that you're actually getting better at melee combat. Some of your smash and grab invasions are pretty remarkable. At any rate, take this for what it's worth. Whatever you do, I'll keep watching and subbing!
Thank you so much for these warm words 🙂 I can't say if I got better in melee but you are right, my philosophy is to "work with what I have", which also means no hard swapping etc.. 🙂and this is mostly themed too. Thank you for acknowledging that I use the bad ones to the utmost too 🙂 cause that really is a pain sometimes 😂 again, thanks a lot for this comment!
Still no frostbite exultation though, which bothers me, since it’s the only status effect that doesn’t have a talisman tied to it now, not counting deathblight.
19:16 was actually horrifying, the raw power of you just whaling on a metal shield, and then the host's guard breaking and them just shrieking as they died
I think it’s only good purpose is to self inflict madness for the buff, since the torch does a much better job at inflicting madness on other players, and howl of shabriri takes several casts plus really bad dmg negation. You use the black dumpling, madding hand and aged ones exultation and now you have 37.5% dmg boost, which is crazy. Then you can move in with Vyke’s spears or the torch and just cause chaos
holy shit that invasion at 7:11 gave me the urge to punch someone lol. that host got such an unreasonable amount of help and managed to worm his way out of every encounter with you, so annoying to watch. it was very cathartic when you finally got the win. side note, you should try the grafted greatsword with this build. it's a functional weapon that serves as an endure stick while also boosting all your stats. it gives the frenzy seal a decent little jump in scaling
@@traineryvar7123 point down, tbag, throw 💩, wave with the dagger, 360, all kind of insulting that exists in the game, that hos is such a B... That I put the video in 2x
the maddening hand also has a hidden passive that boosts attack by 7.5% 5% in pvp if its in one of your hands when you proc it on yourself, flame grant me strength would give you another 15% and fire scorpion charm would give you another 12% if you wanted to min max the fire damage of the incantations
Glad to see even seemingly underpowered spells like Midra’s can still have a good use. Maybe if they lowered the FP cost more people would pick it up, but hey it’s perfect for terrifying people.
have you tried putting Endure onto the Dryleaf Arts/Dane's Footwork weapon? it makes it a bit sneaky because your opponent might think you swapped to an empty hand. it's also funny to dropkick the crap outta someone.
You're the best frienzied flame user I've ever seen, and those laughs, true madness indeed ahah However you should use howl of shabriri more often, it's a good buff after all
Try the torch, the damage and spred is worse but when testing with my friend you can proc madness in 2-3 hits only, and can lead to a grab but the timing is tricky. I haven't had the time to try it out in invades yet though
that damage is insane. and I've only seen the first clip so far. edit: also wow, a guy in the 2nd clip named his character "ZZZZZAP!" which is almost exactly how I named a lightning-themed character of mine, only that I didn't write it in all uppercase (I didn't know how to name it, ok? >_>).
Absolute gameplay, congratulations for your build and skills. I have a doubt, there is some specific reason for the levels in INT? And what you think about vyke spear?
Thanks a lot! Madding Hand and Frenzied Flame Seal scale of str, int, dex and faith which is why I reach the softcap for int, it simply gives bigger damage / better seal scaling.
@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 thanks for de response man, and one more time, congratulations for your build and your skills, it inspired me to make a madness build, MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD
Midras flame really needs a buff holy shit. Just a worse unendurable frenzy. It should have tracking and the same range as frenzy burst for the FP and madness build up on yourself. Shit should be a nuke
This is the approach i like on builds, the old school way, like in DS1 where builds were actual builds where you pick a weapon, a "fashion", a theme and a set of items and just run with it. This has been lost specially with ER where people just mish mash a bunch of different weapons and horrible meta choices just to "win". Glad to see there's at least some people playing with that mindset like it was back in the day
Thinking about this one guy on Reddit who was being rude but ultimately trying to be like “isn’t the whole point of a madness build about avoiding inflicting madness on yourself?” It’s the opposite lmao as anyone could tell you
God I forget how strong the Flame of Frenzy Incantation is despite it being the FIRST one you get it’s insane and you can get it so early as well Then we get a whole new madness area in the dlc, and the newest coolest incantation is really mid lol
What are your thoughts on the Frenzy perfume? Personally I adore it with rolling sparks, even after the nerf. Its stat distributions are hard to fit into a 150 build tho
Ok I can't be the only one who thinks that midra eye or Sauron spell is way worse than unendurable frenzy. They both do the same thing, hold to drain all fp, but the unendurable does more damage, better range, and doesn't proc madness on you in two seconds. What gives???
Midra's procs madness in yourself faster, this is the point of the build 🙂 of course we all have expected more from this big spectacle of a spell but inbstantly buffing yourself without the negative effect of Howl of Shabriri is not to bad. Let us hope they buff it!
I love madness builds so much. I wish there where more melee weapons to choose from. Also, this fight just makes me sad a little for the pve guys... 30:08
Sometimes I severe finger when I feel smashing PvE'rs would not "make sense" but seeing Moonveil and Glintstone kind of triggers me because of so many "situations" over the years while invading.
It has something to do with scaling - Madding Hand scales D in 4 different attributes, that means you should get around 30 in each of these attributes to get most damage out of the weapon. I put most points into faith because the seal has B scaling in faith, but the rest is D, so putting a fair amount of points into the other stats gets a decent amount of incant scaling. Believe me, I tried different statdistribution, this one makes a lot of sense 🙂
That is myself laughing in this exact moment. Sometimes I leave it in sometimes I cut it out. To much laughing can be annoying too, this is why it isn't consistently in every clip.
3 bummers. Wished we'd get a frenzy sword or daggers, something ritual. Wished we would get some frenzy flame armor, or robe Midra robe would be even fine, with some kind of frenzy flame boost like " periodically build up madness on player, and if madness is triggered the armour passive, increase dmg by 5 or 10% "or something. Why the heck we didn't get a Frenzy flame head Helm. We get a bloody purple flower from Miquellrast. And yes, the spell of Midra needs buff.
The catalyst buff stack, if you don't have a copy, you can just hold the catalyst that gives the buff you want and use the best one you have to do more damage with the incantantion
I've always heard that dragon communion seal + arcane investment is better for madness incants bc it scales the madness buildup with arcane. Just wondering if you considered this and found this setup to be optimal and if so why
I use Madding Hand here which has the same scaling as the Frenzied Flame Seal. Building up more madness could of course be an important factor, but with the statinvestment here I even outdamage Erdtree Seal + Frenzied Flame Seal, I find more damage most important (+Madding Hand factor).
Yeah, I am mainly a caster, I prefer that playstyle 🙂 there are many reasons why I don't use emotes but that would be a pretty long and complex text which I don't feel like typing right now 🙂
I love everything about madness except the incantations and weapons. Vyke's weapon is honestly mediocre and the fact that madness incantations dont get hyper armor despite all being easy af to punish is just dumb. Top that off with them adding my favorite looking incantation and it is once again total trash. I can go pure pyro and have better weapons, better incantations, and do more damage. Its really quite disappointing.
When you see two dudes using bloodhound fang and veteran s armour, you know these dudes are gonna spam L2 and one hand L1 xD L1. If they also use spells, the game is automatically won, cuz you know they cry about difficult bosses and don't try to learn how to play the game xD pvp for them is a mith
There's three other things your videos have going for them, and let's see if the chat section agrees: Besides the cackle, which everyone loves, you also hold tight to an esthetic--- you use incantations, or death sorceries, or blue sorceries, or madness. The second thing is, in so doing, you don't necessarily min-max (except for the occasional helm that adds 10% or whatever). You seem more concerned with extracting the most out of the tools as they're constructed, and you use them to their utmost. Even the bad ones. The third thing is... and I feel confident in saying this since I've watched at least 250 hours of your videos... is that you're actually getting better at melee combat. Some of your smash and grab invasions are pretty remarkable. At any rate, take this for what it's worth. Whatever you do, I'll keep watching and subbing!
Thank you so much for these warm words 🙂 I can't say if I got better in melee but you are right, my philosophy is to "work with what I have", which also means no hard swapping etc.. 🙂and this is mostly themed too. Thank you for acknowledging that I use the bad ones to the utmost too 🙂 cause that really is a pain sometimes 😂 again, thanks a lot for this comment!
kinda bummed by midra's flame but still happy we got a madness exultation
Still no frostbite exultation though, which bothers me, since it’s the only status effect that doesn’t have a talisman tied to it now, not counting deathblight.
@@rexwrecks5227You already lower enemy defenses and make them lose a % amount of their hp. I think it’s fine without one.
@@rexwrecks5227 Frostbite is its own exaltation, that's why it's one of if not the best status in ER.
Mad exultation is great. You can self-proc it with Shabriri's Howl
@@haitianxu but you cannot stack this status effect on yourself 🗿🗿🗿🗿
19:16 was actually horrifying, the raw power of you just whaling on a metal shield, and then the host's guard breaking and them just shrieking as they died
Haha so true! 🙂
midras flame is so ass but it looks so cool
Hope it get a buff 🙏☀️
His incantation should've been that "nosedive" explosion he does to open phase 2
@@traineryvar7123Did you mean the « WEEEEEEE 💥☀️💥 » move?
I think it’s only good purpose is to self inflict madness for the buff, since the torch does a much better job at inflicting madness on other players, and howl of shabriri takes several casts plus really bad dmg negation. You use the black dumpling, madding hand and aged ones exultation and now you have 37.5% dmg boost, which is crazy. Then you can move in with Vyke’s spears or the torch and just cause chaos
@@traineryvar7123 I thought it was going to be the orb he summons then detonates and leaves lingering fire
holy shit that invasion at 7:11 gave me the urge to punch someone lol. that host got such an unreasonable amount of help and managed to worm his way out of every encounter with you, so annoying to watch. it was very cathartic when you finally got the win.
side note, you should try the grafted greatsword with this build. it's a functional weapon that serves as an endure stick while also boosting all your stats. it gives the frenzy seal a decent little jump in scaling
@@solarizexhc It's a soul cleansing experience when you get to drop a point down on one of these fellas
@@traineryvar7123 point down, tbag, throw 💩, wave with the dagger, 360, all kind of insulting that exists in the game, that hos is such a B... That I put the video in 2x
Yall gay as hell
Our Lord of frenzied flame is back!
the maddening hand also has a hidden passive that boosts attack by 7.5% 5% in pvp if its in one of your hands when you proc it on yourself, flame grant me strength would give you another 15% and fire scorpion charm would give you another 12% if you wanted to min max the fire damage of the incantations
The way i smiled so hard to see this uploaded, i love frenzied flame lore and all things associated to it
May chaos take the world
In my opinion it’s the best status effect for PvP besides sleep and rot
Glad to see even seemingly underpowered spells like Midra’s can still have a good use. Maybe if they lowered the FP cost more people would pick it up, but hey it’s perfect for terrifying people.
Wow nice use of the grab. Also I’m with the house this Midra spell needs a massive buff.
Such a fun build, youve inspired me to make a madness build and keep to the incantations. I also really want to try the Hands!
Thanks, it is really a fun and solid build 🙂go for it!
It needs to cost way less fp, do more damage and less self inflicted madness. Having line of sight with the eye should also build up madness.
I will go with more damage and line of sight, the other 2 things would probably make it to strong 🙂
Madding hand Raises attack power when madness is triggered in the vicinity
have you tried putting Endure onto the Dryleaf Arts/Dane's Footwork weapon? it makes it a bit sneaky because your opponent might think you swapped to an empty hand. it's also funny to dropkick the crap outta someone.
Hum... I gonna try this...
@@Darksouls3600 it’s also lighter than the dagger by half a Miyazaki. it’s not much, but it helps
Good idea, thanks!
@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 glad you also like the idea. hope it shows up in later videos if it works.
unendurable frenzy, my favorite spell for pvp, MACHINE GUN GOES RATATATATATATATATATATATATA
You're the best frienzied flame user I've ever seen, and those laughs, true madness indeed ahah
However you should use howl of shabriri more often, it's a good buff after all
Thanks a lot 🙂 you think so? You take pretty much extra damage, being 1v3 that is a risky move.
@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 I totally forgot a about the extra damage, you're right dumb me💀
Always funny that the best combo for frenzy builds is 'unendurable frenzy' with 'endure'.
Pretty smart, I never thought about that!
Frenzy is by far my most favorite invasion build. I’m so glad it got so many new things 🔥🤙
The laughs aren't edited, it's just him suffering from his own frenzy flame
Haha absolutely true 🙂
If midras frenzy doesn’t get buffed I’m gonna be so disappointed. The fucking torch is better and consumes so much less fp.
It's awesome to see a dedicated self-madness build.
One you realize Midra's real purpose (at least right now) the build feels a lot better.
Try the torch, the damage and spred is worse but when testing with my friend you can proc madness in 2-3 hits only, and can lead to a grab but the timing is tricky. I haven't had the time to try it out in invades yet though
Yeah I once got hit by that and was pretty baffled how much madness buildup it had.
I've never run a madness build but watching people's heads pop cracks me up
Other than the need for more FP this is a fun yet solidly useful PvP build.
Hefty frenzied flame pot is also good
that damage is insane. and I've only seen the first clip so far.
edit: also wow, a guy in the 2nd clip named his character "ZZZZZAP!" which is almost exactly how I named a lightning-themed character of mine, only that I didn't write it in all uppercase (I didn't know how to name it, ok? >_>).
U can change it on elden ring save manager
@@gioochi506 dude. you can change it in-game -_-
and the fact that I didn't know what to name it still stands.
Ohh i have been waiting for this build!!! FIRST!
Midra’s Frenzied Flame absolutely melts fp, I hope they reduce it in the upcoming patch
Absolute gameplay, congratulations for your build and skills. I have a doubt, there is some specific reason for the levels in INT? And what you think about vyke spear?
Thanks a lot! Madding Hand and Frenzied Flame Seal scale of str, int, dex and faith which is why I reach the softcap for int, it simply gives bigger damage / better seal scaling.
@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 thanks for de response man, and one more time, congratulations for your build and your skills, it inspired me to make a madness build, MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD
Midras flame really needs a buff holy shit. Just a worse unendurable frenzy. It should have tracking and the same range as frenzy burst for the FP and madness build up on yourself. Shit should be a nuke
3:19 is the legit my reaction to every madness build kill, quite good deranged laugh
Haha the only right reaction if you ask 🙂
The giggle made me so happy
Just so people know: Aged One's Exultation can be self-proc'd with Shabiri's Howl.
This is the approach i like on builds, the old school way, like in DS1 where builds were actual builds where you pick a weapon, a "fashion", a theme and a set of items and just run with it. This has been lost specially with ER where people just mish mash a bunch of different weapons and horrible meta choices just to "win".
Glad to see there's at least some people playing with that mindset like it was back in the day
Thank you so much 🙂
Thinking about this one guy on Reddit who was being rude but ultimately trying to be like “isn’t the whole point of a madness build about avoiding inflicting madness on yourself?”
It’s the opposite lmao as anyone could tell you
Your flame of frenzy aim is really good
Thanks 🙂
He's the Joker baby.
14:00 is the reason I watch these, ""I was like how's he going to win this?" Perfection lol
That host really was a coward and got what he deserved.
God I forget how strong the Flame of Frenzy Incantation is despite it being the FIRST one you get it’s insane and you can get it so early as well
Then we get a whole new madness area in the dlc, and the newest coolest incantation is really mid lol
Lmao even your laugh is like madness! Fun vid 🎉
Haha thank you so much!🙂
0:39 that was a sick ass gank haha
What are your thoughts on the Frenzy perfume? Personally I adore it with rolling sparks, even after the nerf. Its stat distributions are hard to fit into a 150 build tho
Haven't tested it yet tbh, I was thinking Madding Hand or Perfume and I chose Hand 🙂but good to know you like it!
I find erdtree seal main hand + frenzy seal off hand does more dmg if you have high faith due to the incant scaling
On all my 150 builds I use that combination, but with lvl 175 and the shown statdistribution 2 Frenzied Seals outdamage it.
YESSS I FOUND YOUR CHANNEL AGAIN
Haha welcome back 🙂
The only thing that midra's incantantion have that is better, is that you don't get stuck in a animation, unless you get madness
And a faster buildup (if you refer to unendurable frenzy).
Are 2 Frenzy seals better than one plus erdtree seals? Asking since i think i havent seen you use two yet
In this case they do more damage AND syngerize better with Madding Hand🙂
@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Oh right! I didn't realize your build is using low-ish faith
Have you tried the ranged heal spell? I think it might be the best one if you aim it at your feet
I haven't, but it sure seems worth testing.
I made a similar build although I used dragon communion seal on the off chance arcane still boosts madness buildup
That also works fine!
Ok I can't be the only one who thinks that midra eye or Sauron spell is way worse than unendurable frenzy. They both do the same thing, hold to drain all fp, but the unendurable does more damage, better range, and doesn't proc madness on you in two seconds. What gives???
Midra's procs madness in yourself faster, this is the point of the build 🙂 of course we all have expected more from this big spectacle of a spell but inbstantly buffing yourself without the negative effect of Howl of Shabriri is not to bad. Let us hope they buff it!
I love your vids. You should try hard swaping, you would be unstoppable. Also is that the Joker 🃏 under the mask 😂?
I don't like hard swapping, I always try to "work with what I have" and adapt to situations, but you are definitely right, it would be more optimal!
I love madness builds so much. I wish there where more melee weapons to choose from.
Also, this fight just makes me sad a little for the pve guys... 30:08
Sometimes I severe finger when I feel smashing PvE'rs would not "make sense" but seeing Moonveil and Glintstone kind of triggers me because of so many "situations" over the years while invading.
Genuine question: Why do you have so much int?
Pretty sure 14 is just enough for the torch and fist weapon
It has something to do with scaling - Madding Hand scales D in 4 different attributes, that means you should get around 30 in each of these attributes to get most damage out of the weapon. I put most points into faith because the seal has B scaling in faith, but the rest is D, so putting a fair amount of points into the other stats gets a decent amount of incant scaling. Believe me, I tried different statdistribution, this one makes a lot of sense 🙂
@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 I see, thanks for the clarification 👌
He laughed... LIKE A MADMAN!!! BE CAREFUL!!! I WARNING YOU ALL!!!
I can't help it 😂
29:55 lol
What is that buff that allows you to not be staggered while casting?
Endure 🙂
Love the build
That coward host... Such o Bi... That I needed to put the video in 2x to not get tortured for so long
Yeah that host really was a big coward 🙂 was close but made me so happy when I got him.
More madness
24:00 bro forgot to die 😂😂
this was funny as shit bro good stuff
Thanks 🙂
Try fire fist ace build 60 vigor 30 mind 30 endurance 80 faith, flame god, flame pillar giant fireball, dani footwork flame arts
This comment actually inspired me for the upcoming videos (2 in fact) so yes, I heard you 🙂
wheres that laughing sound clip from
That is myself laughing in this exact moment. Sometimes I leave it in sometimes I cut it out. To much laughing can be annoying too, this is why it isn't consistently in every clip.
3 bummers.
Wished we'd get a frenzy sword or daggers, something ritual.
Wished we would get some frenzy flame armor, or robe
Midra robe would be even fine, with some kind of frenzy flame boost like " periodically build up madness on player, and if madness is triggered the armour passive, increase dmg by 5 or 10% "or something.
Why the heck we didn't get a Frenzy flame head Helm. We get a bloody purple flower from Miquellrast.
And yes, the spell of Midra needs buff.
The robe and head would have been so super nice, it is really to bad we didn't get them 🙂
Hold on . Those 2 seals stack ?????
@@Bloody__Crow any 2 catalysts stack
@@traineryvar7123 WOW
The catalyst buff stack, if you don't have a copy, you can just hold the catalyst that gives the buff you want and use the best one you have to do more damage with the incantantion
I've always heard that dragon communion seal + arcane investment is better for madness incants bc it scales the madness buildup with arcane. Just wondering if you considered this and found this setup to be optimal and if so why
I use Madding Hand here which has the same scaling as the Frenzied Flame Seal. Building up more madness could of course be an important factor, but with the statinvestment here I even outdamage Erdtree Seal + Frenzied Flame Seal, I find more damage most important (+Madding Hand factor).
@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 I figured that was probably the reason. Thanks for replying!
hey cool! why so much investment in int ?
The dlc madness weapons have INT scale
Look at the scaling of the seals and the Madding Hand🙂
Is 175 the new invade lvl?
No, I am just testing new waters 🙂 I will return to 150 someday.
@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 I like invading because of your videos but who chose 150 as the lvl for PvP lol ?
Why don't you do any emotions after killing?) Also I noticed that you don't play build where damage goes mostly from weapon, only magic/faith.
Yeah, I am mainly a caster, I prefer that playstyle 🙂 there are many reasons why I don't use emotes but that would be a pretty long and complex text which I don't feel like typing right now 🙂
@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 ohohoho, man, now it`s interesting.) I`ll gladly remind you from time to time about telling me that story.
Love the madness builds but man I ain't wearing this ugly ass bag on my head even if it gives me 10% dmg
Understandable even though I personally don't think it is THIS ugly 🙂
Hey
Stop just amazing me!
I love everything about madness except the incantations and weapons. Vyke's weapon is honestly mediocre and the fact that madness incantations dont get hyper armor despite all being easy af to punish is just dumb. Top that off with them adding my favorite looking incantation and it is once again total trash.
I can go pure pyro and have better weapons, better incantations, and do more damage. Its really quite disappointing.
When you see two dudes using bloodhound fang and veteran s armour, you know these dudes are gonna spam L2 and one hand L1 xD
L1. If they also use spells, the game is automatically won, cuz you know they cry about difficult bosses and don't try to learn how to play the game xD pvp for them is a mith
Goddamn that midra spell is dogshit