Spice & Mimi Debate Colorism | Love & Hip Hop: Atlanta

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  • Опубликовано: 12 дек 2024

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  • @tehillajeffrey5811
    @tehillajeffrey5811 5 лет назад +366

    "No stress never deh inna de curl" Y'all sleeping on Spice. #TellThemSis

  • @RegzGirl
    @RegzGirl 5 лет назад +769

    I am a lighter skinned black woman & I completely understand what Spice is saying. Mimi is not comprehending what she is saying.

    • @tummieflowers2681
      @tummieflowers2681 7 дней назад

      Mimi made a big deal out of Spice wanting to bleach her skin when it’s all over West Africa and Jamaica.

  • @teetee4634
    @teetee4634 5 лет назад +786

    I get what spice is saying. I will never bleach my skin I love the skin I'm in. but Some ppl do give light skinned ppl better love and respect than a darker skinned woman.

    • @rileyy1814
      @rileyy1814 5 лет назад +19

      Exactly that's all she saying Mimi doesn't understand what she trying to say

    • @rileyy1814
      @rileyy1814 5 лет назад +7

      @limited access yes this is true as well I get criticised for being too light skinned and I even been called names because of my skin complexion

    • @datgurlky1
      @datgurlky1 5 лет назад +7

      Definitely. Lil Scrappy, Joc, and Kirk displayed that foolishness when Joc asked if they'd smash Spice. You could see they found her more attractive light. Same features, just a different skin tone. Spice is bringing awareness ... Of course they don't listen.

    • @datgurlky1
      @datgurlky1 5 лет назад +3

      @limited access you're out of your fucking mind. Light skin people are fawned over and put on a pedestal.

    • @datgurlky1
      @datgurlky1 5 лет назад +3

      @@rileyy1814 right. I would've like to see them supporting her. Mimi and Rasheeda are really out of touch. The realest one to speak was young Tokyo Vanity at the end of the episode. 😑

  • @tiffyduett2010
    @tiffyduett2010 5 лет назад +1755

    Spice is right...Mimi is in denial.
    Light skin men & women ARE treated differently...if u disagree you are in denial as well.

    • @keijuaniapowers6655
      @keijuaniapowers6655 5 лет назад +17

      Umm.. how I wanna Kno I'm a light skinned woman myself never got treated any different really I didn't

    • @urban_wire_media_network
      @urban_wire_media_network 5 лет назад +19

      In the system of white supremacy we are all "one big nigga" as Tariq Nasheed would say. While we squabble and disagree amongst each other on minuscule issue over skintone and hair texture, white supremacy is doing a number on us as a whole. At the end of the day, a white supremacist think of us all as inferior in this system globally.

    • @isaaclopez63
      @isaaclopez63 5 лет назад +30

      @Light Skin Love bruh, the name of your channel explains your ignorance and proves Keijuania Powers right.

    • @tiffyduett2010
      @tiffyduett2010 5 лет назад +1

      Why tf are u imbecilic morons even here?
      DEPART FROM ME!

    • @tiffyduett2010
      @tiffyduett2010 5 лет назад +6

      @Light Skin Love got that?

  • @PChantel
    @PChantel 5 лет назад +676

    He was really trying to not say “they straighten their hair” ... the relieved stress from the curl.... wtf

    • @isaaclopez63
      @isaaclopez63 5 лет назад +99

      Spice was quick to respond though! Props to her 👏🏼👏🏼 she knows wassup as a actual dark skin black women in the system.

    • @friday4736
      @friday4736 5 лет назад +6

      Lmaaaooo this comment😂😂😂

    • @iamdokyeommysterymystery9555
      @iamdokyeommysterymystery9555 4 года назад

      @BrookStream01 and now everybody wants to have it 🤣

  • @CocoaCola1314
    @CocoaCola1314 5 лет назад +714

    Being a dark skinned woman I can see where Spice is coming from 100%

    • @keijuaniapowers6655
      @keijuaniapowers6655 5 лет назад +31

      I think dark skin is beautiful.....I think Mimi should be more understanding yes but nobody should have to bleach there skin it's not worth it

  • @tursencya6140
    @tursencya6140 5 лет назад +628

    Mimi’s facial expression after the “light skin privilege” comment, she acts like light skin privilege isn’t a thing, when it really is.

    • @prettykitty3570
      @prettykitty3570 4 года назад +9

      Light skinned privilege? This is why nobody likes y'all. It's your insecurities and ya messed up attitude

    • @mavtress6498
      @mavtress6498 4 года назад +48

      Pretty Kitty and there goes the ignorance lmao you’re just proving her point

    • @gsipraisedanceteam7765
      @gsipraisedanceteam7765 4 года назад +8

      @@mavtress6498 exactly

    • @person8520
      @person8520 3 года назад

      @@prettykitty3570 no

    • @tr0picalqueen.180
      @tr0picalqueen.180 3 года назад

      Think mimi expression stem from her not ever having to use that privilege even though it exist

  • @rifindlee223
    @rifindlee223 5 лет назад +264

    I fully agree with Spice! Mimi doesn't understand.

  • @princessispretty3619
    @princessispretty3619 5 лет назад +956

    Some light skin people get it and some will never understand 🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @FuchsiaSquare
      @FuchsiaSquare 4 года назад +17

      Mimi is NOT even light skinned. But for her to get an attitude....🙄

    • @PrettyGurl12361
      @PrettyGurl12361 4 года назад +8

      That is true but Mimi is not really light-skinned. And skin color is all about perception. What might be light-skinned skin to one person may be medium to another.

    • @perkypretty4992
      @perkypretty4992 3 года назад +14

      @@FuchsiaSquare Mimi is a light bright, have you seen her body in the tape with her and Nikko? She’s lightskin

    • @perkypretty4992
      @perkypretty4992 3 года назад +14

      @@PrettyGurl12361 Mimi is lighter than rasheeda so therefore she’s lightskin

    • @bgcrp2005
      @bgcrp2005 3 года назад +9

      They’re in Georgia Mimi is lightskin lmao

  • @plee6223
    @plee6223 5 лет назад +321

    Mimi needs to listen to what Spice is saying. Spice hears Mini but MiMi doesn’t hear Spice. MiMi doesn’t have the same experiences as Spice. Spice was not raised in the United States and she has dark skin.

    • @daphneepaul3737
      @daphneepaul3737 5 лет назад +25

      P Lee Mimi is wrong. However what’s she’s saying is if Spice bleach her skin she is giving society exactly what they want.

    • @crysdee461
      @crysdee461 3 года назад +3

      Colorism happens here too, so Mimi is being ignorant and emotional.

    • @skletory
      @skletory Год назад +1

      @@crysdee461yeah it work both ways. Spice think Mimi is dumb because she lighter . 2nd spice has bigger career than a lot of light skin woman . Fighting colorism is a dumb cause because you’re fighting black ppl for nothing they have control of. We don’t control these big jobs or the industries

  • @ebonyperkins4129
    @ebonyperkins4129 5 лет назад +437

    MIMI DOESNT GET IT AND SHE NEVER WILL. People come from different places and have different struggles including black people. The man gave Mimi an example and she didnt acknowledge it, by all definitions of the word, that is ignorant.

    • @daphneepaul3737
      @daphneepaul3737 5 лет назад +10

      Ebony Perkins mimi is wrong however what’s telling spice is if she bleached her skin she’s giving society exactly what they want.

    • @ebonyperkins4129
      @ebonyperkins4129 5 лет назад +13

      @@daphneepaul3737 I completely understand both sides of the arguement. But most people learn by a true example. In Jamaica and in America light skinned people are treated better, respecting and accepting is a different story.

    • @theuglybeing4673
      @theuglybeing4673 4 года назад

      Ebony Perkins don’t say she will never

  • @WestIndianAK
    @WestIndianAK 5 лет назад +73

    Mimi actually just demonstrated her own misconceptions in this scene. Madame C.J. Walker is actually a *controversial* figure in Black history, precisely *because* she popularized techniques for Black women to straighten their hair *in imitation of Caucasian hair.* She didn't "promote Black beauty," like Mimi said; she really promoted *white* beauty to Black women.

    • @willa1699
      @willa1699 Год назад +8

      It’s a catch 22. She promoted and did what she needed to to help those same women emulating white beauty standards to get into doors and open opportunities for black women that were never there before. Controversial or not, she contributed heavily to black advancement, period. Let’s not act like less than 15 years ago, it was “crazy” to be natural and concerning to wear your natural hair out in a corporate setting. Perfect example.

  • @bjosh02
    @bjosh02 5 лет назад +109

    If Mimi could stop yelling all the goddamn time maybe she could hear Spice's viewpoint.

  • @patriciairv.3347
    @patriciairv.3347 5 лет назад +357

    I really hate how Mimi is just shutting out Spice by screaming and shouting.

    • @gsipraisedanceteam7765
      @gsipraisedanceteam7765 4 года назад +3

      @Jaharee A1 Adams no she not

    • @yaddygarms2226
      @yaddygarms2226 3 года назад

      They both scream we ain’t never gonna be friend

    • @miraonthewall5284
      @miraonthewall5284 2 года назад +1

      I don’t think it’s that Jesus she was being passionate about her friend and wanted the best for her.

  • @RandomBlackGamer
    @RandomBlackGamer 5 лет назад +116

    I think they both have points. They're just too prideful to see each other's point.

    • @ELP1125
      @ELP1125 3 года назад +2

      Exactly

  • @suetay4491
    @suetay4491 5 лет назад +25

    I'm Jamaican and I've heard teachers on countless encounters cursing students calling dem "black like midnight" if they misbehave and these are normally the darkest student of the class.

  • @Jazziiib32
    @Jazziiib32 5 лет назад +95

    Mimi won't EVER know what it is to be dark skinned. Ever.

  • @darkstallion3398
    @darkstallion3398 5 лет назад +203

    i can definitely relate to spice im dark skin and i grew up getting a lot of shade from my own so call black brothers and sisters of how dark i am i was call all kind of names because of who dark i was by my own black ppl. so i can really understand what spice is saying

    • @mspussygalore
      @mspussygalore 5 лет назад +7

      *That's just awful!!*

    • @IntuitiveReadingByPriscilla
      @IntuitiveReadingByPriscilla 5 лет назад +4

      It defo is an issue in our community

    • @daphneepaul3737
      @daphneepaul3737 5 лет назад +8

      dark stallion mimi know her ass is privileged. The same way her baby daddy only date her and other light skin people. Joseline, escalita, eve, now faith yellow ass. So she should know first hand from her baby daddy.

    • @iyonnasmith3452
      @iyonnasmith3452 5 лет назад +6

      @@daphneepaul3737 faith "YELLOW" ass i hope you are not a darker complexion because you're ruining spices point sis

    • @supremequeen1272
      @supremequeen1272 4 года назад

      I understand and feel you. I've been through the same thing as you, and it weakened my self-esteem greatly@dark stallion

  • @TheBahamamama88
    @TheBahamamama88 5 лет назад +42

    Please remember Spice experiences are from a Caribbean island where we are predominately black much different from America. That being said, lighter skinned blacks are more privileged than darker. I agree things are changing but colorism still exists! I remember stores in high tourist areas like downtown ONLY hired lighter skinned, good hair females and banks as well. That’s just the way it is

    • @crysdee461
      @crysdee461 3 года назад +3

      Happens here too. That brown paper bag test. Smh.

    • @erbyfatal4919
      @erbyfatal4919 3 года назад

      @@crysdee461 were not in 1950s .

    • @dreayfey9071
      @dreayfey9071 3 года назад +1

      you should say loose hair instead of “good” hair. That implies tighter hair isn’t good.

  • @angelicdazzle
    @angelicdazzle 5 лет назад +78

    You won’t understand..... when ur a lighter complexion black person you will get better opportunities and are seen second to a white woman... in the Caribbean.... when your a dark skin woman you are less desirable... if MIMI grew up in Jamaica she would be sought after she would get 9/10 men in the club while spice would get 2/10 sooo that’s what spice is saying.... there are dancehall artiste who don’t even have half the talent spice has and from their first song get a lot of support while spice had to work yearssss just to get her accolades..... to put it in the prospective of American society... a cardi B acts ghetto af! And she is talented sure but there are dark skin female rappers like a remy ma who are far more talented and seasoned and lets be frank remy am will never have the level of success that a cardi b has just because of her dark skin.... think that’s why LIL KIM has bleached her skin over the years because she also realize that being of darker complexion people won’t check for u.... funny how Mimi saying all this yettt you have a legendary LIL KIM bleaching her skin looking crazy in these streets sooo what’s there to understand about what spice is trying to teach u... when you have a prime example in ur own America hip hop/rap community 🤔🤔🤔🤔 Mimi can’t think straight tooo much pressing combs used in her hair

    • @louisanna30
      @louisanna30 5 лет назад +2

      Not in the whole of Caribbean. Many of my friends love and prefer my darker sisters. That maybe the case in Jamaica, Haiti but the smaller islands don't bleach.

    • @restlessnreal107xx7
      @restlessnreal107xx7 5 лет назад +3

      Angel Sweet I’m white but I agree with your comment. It’s no comparison but I have black hair and always think I would be more accepted with bleached blonde hair. It seems that blondes get preferential treatment, and seen as more beautiful. It’s a horrible feeling, because bleach does severe damage to hair, but to witness society be more accepting to people with light skin and light hair, makes us want to self destruct and this is something that globally needs to change...

    • @louisanna30
      @louisanna30 5 лет назад +6

      @@restlessnreal107xx7 the whole "Gentlemen perfer blondes" or "Blondes have/are more fun" stereotype.

    • @thefitqueen
      @thefitqueen 5 лет назад

      Angel Sweet pp

    • @peacheskong2245
      @peacheskong2245 5 лет назад +2

      @@restlessnreal107xx7 I hink that comparison is spot on. It's a problem of not feeling desired and rejected. And to continue with your analogy blondes are also less respected in the workplace, in society, ''the dumb blonde'' is a stereotype that ''even'' so called dark skin women don't experience.

  • @Patti326
    @Patti326 5 лет назад +29

    Spice is basically telling Mimi about the struggles of being a dark-skinned black woman. However, Mimi may never understand that because she doesn't have that kind of struggle where she was mocked for her skin-tone, not feeling accepted whether its by family, business and relationships. Spice is showing that Mimi is privileged because she has a LIGHT-SKIN TONE.

    • @Chelsealove316
      @Chelsealove316 Год назад

      Uhm when will y’all realize that whites hate us too?

  • @ms.bhabiedoll5419
    @ms.bhabiedoll5419 5 лет назад +118

    As a afro-Caribbean woman is obvious to see that mimi wants spice to convort to the American standard of black beauty whereas not to tip-toe over that line to make it look not too obvious

    • @tynishamay2107
      @tynishamay2107 5 лет назад

      Well said sis.

    • @simplyjustronnie6852
      @simplyjustronnie6852 5 лет назад +5

      I dont get what you mean, shes telling her to stay natural.

    • @ms.bhabiedoll5419
      @ms.bhabiedoll5419 5 лет назад +3

      @@simplyjustronnie6852 stay natural to what????????
      Wearing weaves makin bi racial babies for the prospect standard of good hair & skin? Cmon sis!!!

    • @simplyjustronnie6852
      @simplyjustronnie6852 5 лет назад +1

      @@ms.bhabiedoll5419is that what shes been telling her? Cause I don't agree with that.

    • @ms.bhabiedoll5419
      @ms.bhabiedoll5419 5 лет назад +3

      @@simplyjustronnie6852 she's basically telling her to not call out on black hypocrosy whereas to stay to the typical standard of African American beauty

  • @StarLight-tu6ub
    @StarLight-tu6ub 5 лет назад +132

    "Blackness" is beautiful!!! You can love anybody regardless of the colour their damn skin. Being light is a headache but to be dark skin is a heartache because so many people suffer discrimination from other races plus within their own communities. Education needs to be a strong tool to educate the generations to come🤗🤗🤗

    • @StarLight-tu6ub
      @StarLight-tu6ub 5 лет назад +1

      Hey beautiful people, Many thanks for liking my comment. Stay extra great!!!🤗🤗🤗

    • @daphneepaul3737
      @daphneepaul3737 5 лет назад

      Star Light headaches vs heartache

  • @FanGurl4TY
    @FanGurl4TY 4 года назад +18

    Does Mimi not realize Madame CJ walker made products the appealed to European standards but just made it easier for it to happen

  • @phatma1
    @phatma1 5 лет назад +46

    I hear what spice is saying about her completion but not everyone feels that bleaching their skin is the answer... She's gone end up looking like lil Kim... 1st its skin color next it'll be more plastic surgery on her body then onward and upward... Just love yourself and love whatever shape, color, hair texture & etc you're blessed with...

    • @rolandiagale9271
      @rolandiagale9271 5 лет назад +13

      Wanda The Wonderful she didn’t bleach her skin it was makeup 💄😂😂😂😂

    • @daphneepaul3737
      @daphneepaul3737 5 лет назад +5

      Wanda The Wonderful spice said if she talks about black hypocrisy while she’s in her blackface light skin people won’t understand. The same with white people not listening when black people talk about racism. But when it’s a white person (Jane Elliot) white people listen.

    • @kadishap5335
      @kadishap5335 5 лет назад +5

      She doesn't really want to bleach her skin. I think this whole thing is just her ok wn personal social experiment to see how people react to her with her skin lighter. She Is right and definitely needs to use her platform to be heard. Light skin women won't really get it until they are rejected or "preferred " to someone with lighter skin than them. Its a social conditioning that will take generations to be corrected. I HOPE WE GET THERE.

    • @daphneepaul3737
      @daphneepaul3737 5 лет назад +4

      Kadisha P and she was right. Jamaicans said she looked good when she turned white.

  • @shentelj.5911
    @shentelj.5911 5 лет назад +58

    Im glad they are having these conversations however, when that man told Spice to change her look a couple episodes back he didn't mean she should bleach her skin. She automatically assumed that is what he meant and made it about her complexion. Oh yea and Mimi is annoying af and always does the most..🙄😒

    • @chelseafcgirl123
      @chelseafcgirl123 5 лет назад +11

      I think they are just tweaking/trying to relate the story line more to fit Spice’s music/message. I understand and support her message but this show has been fake for a long time.

    • @TheeParalegalBarrbie
      @TheeParalegalBarrbie 5 лет назад +2

      It all goes together light skin women get to be naked and wear whatever and they are praised darker skin women who wear certain clothes are categorized as hoes or thots she is tired of the changes she has to make because she is darker skinned!

    • @shh429
      @shh429 5 лет назад +10

      I think he meant her ugly weaves and her wardrobe-not her skin, but she ran with it

    • @peacheskong2245
      @peacheskong2245 5 лет назад

      But this is what happens a lot of times...someone's insecurity could be their skin color and with everything they hear they directly relate it to their insecurity. I'm sure it's only to promote her story line but this is only fuel for the blogs that want to believe colorism is their issue when in reality it's really not.

    • @deonne_alyssia
      @deonne_alyssia 5 лет назад

      I think she took it as that because she was used to people talking about her skin like people may have said if she never suh black she woulda more famous

  • @JG-kf5yw
    @JG-kf5yw 5 лет назад +67

    The darker the berry the sweeter the juice😏

  • @tiesharodgers8629
    @tiesharodgers8629 5 лет назад +55

    Come on na!! Y’all know Meme love to play slo

  • @jaymoor5309
    @jaymoor5309 5 лет назад +9

    Thank you Love and Hip Hop for a real discussion that is affecting our people....The basis of this conversation is knowledge through facts vs knowledge through experiences

  • @spoilkid95
    @spoilkid95 5 лет назад +7

    Spice -"buh no stress neva inna di curl" DWLLLL

  • @kerrychin5756
    @kerrychin5756 5 лет назад +14

    I think spice is right 💯 every country has a different way of doing their own thing. Being darker skin in Jamaica doesn’t give you the same opportunity as when your lighter skin. It’s sad but it’s true. Society just needs to except us for whatever skin tone we are.Everybody has their own way of looking at it. But she’s an adult so she feels like that’s her way of getting the point across I think she should be able to have that right every country has a different culture of a different way of doing things that’s just life

  • @SamAdamsDesigns
    @SamAdamsDesigns 5 лет назад +9

    I really like spice. This is the only clip of love & hip hop I’ve EVER seen that didn’t feel like it was scripted.

  • @dionnaperry500
    @dionnaperry500 5 лет назад +14

    3:50 nahh as a dark skin I felt that part low key😩

  • @dyannavidal68
    @dyannavidal68 3 года назад +9

    The biggest issue I feel like was that both girls weren't *listening* to each other. They were trying to get their points across without trying to understand what the other was saying. So yeah there's that.
    Now considering the *facts* of the matter, Mimi was wrong. Yes both women are black but as a *darker* skinned woman she went through *more* discrimination than a lighter skin girl. And we as a community do it to ourselves.

  • @MiaMore.
    @MiaMore. 5 лет назад +48

    This is actually one of the better story lines promoted on the Love & Hip Hop platform. This is a dialogue that is prevalent in our society and needs to be discussed and people need to see the perspective from BOTH sides. There is no "right and wrong" it is all perspective from each individual's experiences. All black people do not experience the exact same kind of racism all of the time. They also didn't grow up in the same culture or with the same parental upbringing. For ONCE in LAHH history I can see a positive in a storyline; Please don't make me eat my words Mona!!!!! 🙇🏽‍♀️🙆🏽‍♀️

    • @daphneepaul3737
      @daphneepaul3737 5 лет назад

      MiaMore you must not watched Amara La Negras storyline.

    • @charlisena
      @charlisena 4 года назад

      You are blind and deaf.

    • @MiaMore.
      @MiaMore. 4 года назад

      @@daphneepaul3737 I said this is one of not the only storyline

    • @MiaMore.
      @MiaMore. 4 года назад

      @@charlisena and you are an idiot, what is your point?

  • @mspussygalore
    @mspussygalore 5 лет назад +45

    *I love my girl Spice♥She needs to look at one Jamaican Queen named Patra♥♥♥♥♥Patra did not lighten her skin to be accepted. Neither did Dawn Penn♥♥♥♥♥Sounds like more of a self esteem issue than skin color.*

    • @floranceconte
      @floranceconte 5 лет назад +2

      Natalie Harris thank you

    • @TJ-od5fg
      @TJ-od5fg 5 лет назад +3

      Patra is a beautiful woman, so is Spice. I am a dark girl that can relate to what she is saying, BUT NEVER WILL I BLEACH MY SKIN!!!

    • @blackbarbie401
      @blackbarbie401 5 лет назад +1

      Natalie Harris times have changed since Patra was popular... Lighter women r glorified more than even and it’s just a fact!!!

    • @mspussygalore
      @mspussygalore 5 лет назад

      @@blackbarbie401 *This is true and this goes back to slavery. Lighter-skinned Blacks could work inside the homes of slave masters while the darker-skinned Blacks worked the fields and other 'outside' jobs. It's unfortunate that this still is going on(smh) and within the Black Community. Yes, one can change and manipulate the outside but a real person is reflected by what's on the inside.*

    • @mspussygalore
      @mspussygalore 5 лет назад +2

      @@TJ-od5fg *Absolutely sis♥EMBRACE YOUR MELANIN MAGIC!!*

  • @hueheff8023
    @hueheff8023 5 лет назад +4

    "Me ah get deh right link from Jamaica"- SPICE🤣🤣🤣

  • @shentelj.5911
    @shentelj.5911 5 лет назад +67

    I hope this comment section doesn't turn into a who had it the worst battle between lightskin and darkskin people..😂

    • @brandoniswhoiam
      @brandoniswhoiam 5 лет назад +2

      Shentel J., it really isn’t.

    • @Powerful1DTM
      @Powerful1DTM 5 лет назад +9

      If it does its because they are insecure

    • @MissShavone
      @MissShavone 5 лет назад +1

      Exactly! Who's to say right !

    • @kiraalouis7249
      @kiraalouis7249 5 лет назад +9

      This There Really Such A Thing As Light & Dark Skin Cuz At The End Of The Day We’re Still Black

    • @Powerful1DTM
      @Powerful1DTM 5 лет назад +5

      @@kiraalouis7249 um there is a such thing we all have different skin tones

  • @kimah9855
    @kimah9855 5 лет назад +18

    Black is always beauty🔥Thnx to God🙏🙏I'm Blessed to be a black🙏🙏🙏

  • @meelarno
    @meelarno 2 года назад +6

    With Spice on this one all the way. Unless you are wearing and walking in the very same shoes of those deeply affected, it will always slap differently. Love and appreciate how her actions are challenging the very outdated status quo.

  • @itslalaaa9208
    @itslalaaa9208 5 лет назад +13

    Honestly I could feel where spice coming from !

  • @dailyprincess8217
    @dailyprincess8217 2 года назад +2

    there’s no way y’all are in here agreeing with spice, she’s wrong she did have a point with the lightskin privilege but as a darkskin if you’re being criticized the solution wouldn’t be “lemme turn white” no, you’re giving them what they want. instead love you in that skin cause there’s no coming out of your skin that’s what makes them mad

  • @brooklynforever1990
    @brooklynforever1990 5 лет назад +70

    The irony of two women with weaves mimicking European standards talking about self acceptance. Edit: referring to the straight look folks not hair color

    • @marz611
      @marz611 5 лет назад +34

      What European person has natural blue hair or brightly coloured hair? The only person Spice is mimicking is a clown

    • @chantelscollection
      @chantelscollection 5 лет назад +3

      Marissa Francis say tht 🗣🗣🗣 🙏🏽

    • @brooklynforever1990
      @brooklynforever1990 5 лет назад +5

      @@marz611 talking about the straighness sis not the color

    • @immaculatepeter5529
      @immaculatepeter5529 5 лет назад +31

      brooklynforever1990 straight hair is not a European thing a lot of people around the world have straight hair

    • @happy123495
      @happy123495 5 лет назад +15

      @@brooklynforever1990 sweetie there are blacks with straight hair, Stop classifying every black person as being dark with nappy matted hair and unappealing features.

  • @Trendsetter5420
    @Trendsetter5420 5 лет назад +9

    Yep spice is right. We did it to straighten our hair I’ve always said that yeah we natural but still I got my wig on but aye

    • @exhh6751
      @exhh6751 5 лет назад

      Go natural I'm telling you it's more beautiful you black and beautiful

  • @gisellewilliams4105
    @gisellewilliams4105 5 лет назад +8

    I love Mimi she is a very persuasive friend she's not a hypocrite spice have some points still I don't think spice should bleach her beautiful skin tone

  • @summernight7587
    @summernight7587 5 лет назад +2

    Just because black woman straighten there hair doesnt mean we didnt value our hair wanted to be white. ( 1:35) It just means we wanted variety... Not everyone wants to wear an afro all the time although Afos are beautiful! At times we like just switch it up

  • @growthrulove
    @growthrulove 5 лет назад +6

    I am a Hershey kiss, and I absolutely love it.

  • @trinibeanmi5104
    @trinibeanmi5104 4 года назад +2

    Spice was not raised in America, in the Caribbean not just Jamaica there is BLATANT colorism.

  • @latasha3141
    @latasha3141 5 лет назад +3

    Black is beautiful no matter what the shade is embrace it ❤💪

  • @april-m5837
    @april-m5837 5 лет назад +2

    'Stress in the hair' what a way to describe my hair. I have stress on the brain and stress in my hair.
    Stress: you can't run from me I'm everywhere

  • @MissMaweja
    @MissMaweja 5 лет назад +4

    Spice wants to break open the conversation and make it honest and transparent. She got rid of the gas lighting by doing her bleaching stunt and I applaud her for it! Being dark-skinned IS a different struggle than being light-skinned, especially around colorist people. Considering the little bit of protection dark-skinned girls and women get from colorists or really our own communities, how quickly we are considered angry and malicious yet "strong" enough to deal with more BS than the average default women in society are expected to deal with, Spice really brought her points home with this video and I hope we can progress from dialogue and mutual understanding.

  • @ivorylovee
    @ivorylovee 5 лет назад +3

    As a lighter skinned woman I can say I agree with Spice 1000000%. I've experienced situations where I was preferred over my darker cousin she was more like a sister. Even as kids when we played certain games to the men who like us to certain opportunities that we got. I was always favored and I know that it is a huge issue within the black community.

  • @louisanna30
    @louisanna30 5 лет назад +14

    Remember that the light skin people also experience colorism from darker skin. It is a painful cycle. Imagined being told you are not black enough.

  • @ymani2850
    @ymani2850 5 лет назад +13

    I’m sorry but I would never bleached my skin for that reason but I do understand both sides those

    • @charlisena
      @charlisena 4 года назад +2

      She didn't bleach her skin. It was to prove a point

  • @IamSterl
    @IamSterl 5 лет назад +3

    I think Spice is using her platform for a good cause. As a darker skin woman many people treated me different. I love the way Mimi tried to explain her point of view but Mimi doesn't know until she has a relative experience it. Few days ago I was watching Erica Campbell show when her daughter told Mrs. Campbell how she felt. This is a serious issues around the world that we need to let our children know their skin color, and body shape is beautiful.

  • @antiisocial.s8937
    @antiisocial.s8937 5 лет назад +4

    Just because we all black, don't mean we all face the same discrimination. Period

  • @fleurorange8241
    @fleurorange8241 5 лет назад +6

    Spice your color is beautiful ! Love black color (Africa) 😍🤩

  • @GenZ_Zillenial
    @GenZ_Zillenial 5 лет назад +2

    Oh lawd, Please don’t ratchet up the museum!! So glad they got their asses OUT!

  • @brittnylacroix1097
    @brittnylacroix1097 5 лет назад +5

    Spice is 100% correct Mimi is hard headed

  • @joharijones4775
    @joharijones4775 5 лет назад +1

    The lighter skin/ darker skin issue is deeply rooted in the African/ African-American culture. What I don't like is Spice is assuming that she is the only skin color that experiences cultural hate. Yes both skin tones experience it.That does not mean Spice's experience is void because a light skin woman experiences hatred as well and vice versa. Being a light skin woman, I have had people try to fight me just because I was light skin or assume I was better than them because of my skin tone and even go so far to threaten to cut my hair off because it was long. What the Black community needs to understand it goes both ways. Being light skin, they always want to take away my blackness with statements like you must be mixed you not just black or I bet you got money. I grew up in the hood struggling with no food, gas, water, and lights so what makes my skin tone not experience these things. I can't speak on a dark-skin woman's experience but she can't speak on a light skin's experience either. But what we can do is acknowledge that both of us have experienced hateful experiences.

    • @silvercole9291
      @silvercole9291 5 лет назад

      ♥️♥️👌👌👌👌👌👌👊👊👊👊👊👊 you ain't lying sorry that happened to you !

  • @Annastasiaworldoffun
    @Annastasiaworldoffun 5 лет назад +4

    Are you gonna have a next child 😂😂 real yardie😍

  • @Laoriginal718
    @Laoriginal718 5 лет назад +1

    Spice is completely right.....there is nothing wrong with our hair. It is a form of self hate. Period. Afro textured hair is not stressed. It’s chillin and curlin’. ✊🏿

    • @Kingdom_of_Bakuba
      @Kingdom_of_Bakuba 5 лет назад

      Girl yes. Remember coming to America? "What you use in your hair? Nothing but juices and berries" love my dark skin, and unstressed afro. It rep who I am and God created me BEAUTIFULLY.

  • @shelaynedowman6050
    @shelaynedowman6050 5 лет назад +12

    Spice has a very valid point... Funny how she’s questioning Madame CJ Walker and straightening natural African American hair, whilst wearing a 28” BLUE WIG. 🤔

    • @daphneepaul3737
      @daphneepaul3737 5 лет назад +6

      Shelayne Dowman she saying if she talks about black hypocrisy while In black face light skin people won’t pay attention. But with light skin they will. The same when we talk about racism white people dont care. But when the message comes from a white Person (Jane Elliott) everyone listen. The same way her message is coming from her wearing blue hair and you’re not listening. You’re making fun of her message because of the hair she has.

  • @leahsteel2719
    @leahsteel2719 2 года назад +1

    We all go through it being black. This colorism issue is another divide to pit black against black. I'm a lighter skinned black woman (think black coffee with 1 cream). Just because im lighter doesn't strip away the fact that I go through it.
    However I see Spice's point and why she's going HARD. colorism is a huge issue everywhere but I feel that it's a major issue in the entertainment industry.
    Zoe Kravitz, Zendaya, are great/subpar actors but Viola Davis, Octavia Spencer, Lupita Nyong'o, etc are powerhouses but are overlooked because of their darker complexion. The only reason why Lupita received as much glory she did was because she played a slave well. Those are the only roles darker skinned women excel in and its depressing. Theres so much more than that. But they are never given the opportunity unless they play a breakout slave role or a maid. For some reason in America and the industry lighter skinned black women are more "visually appealing" (which is BS because there is unnattractiveness in every shade, so i dont get it) and can go up the ladder quicker. In the US Spice should have BEEN received grammys for her dancehall music. On the opposite end if someone like Beyonce or Rihanna released a reggae or dancehall album the sales would skyrocket immediately.
    We need to support each other in EVERY shade and go harder for our darker skinned kings and queens.
    I'm not here to argue with anyone. I want to know if I hit the nail on the head or if someone can build onto the discussion WITHOUT being scathing or defensive.
    Much love xoxo

  • @bullycamp6939
    @bullycamp6939 5 лет назад +78

    I'm lost. Spice is talking about “black hypocrisy” and all that stuff, but has a straight wig in the confession part of the show, with a curly long weave wile filming 🤔🤔

    • @lennellwaltonboxer
      @lennellwaltonboxer 5 лет назад +15

      She saying that bleaching her skin is no different from weave or straightening your hair. And it’s not in this video but another time she compared lightening her skin to plastic surgery.

    • @vintagerachel2372
      @vintagerachel2372 5 лет назад +1

      🤦🏾‍♀️

    • @daciannedallas1845
      @daciannedallas1845 5 лет назад +2

      @@lennellwaltonboxer Her skin is temporarily bleach...She bleached her skin like six months ago and then she went back in her same skin complexion that same month

    • @T.M.O
      @T.M.O 5 лет назад +18

      Spice is talking about colorism not racism!!

    • @millymilly8264
      @millymilly8264 5 лет назад

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Meee_eee3
    @Meee_eee3 5 лет назад +1

    I agree with spice 1000 percent......but in the same breath (in my opinion ) it's no one's fault your born the way you are. So one might be born light skin, long hair, colored eyes.....doesn't mean they hate every one else or think they are better than anyone else....might just mean their family's taught them to walk tall with their heads high and be the best! So much more matters than what's on the outside! Forget tearing other people down.......if we spend our time building our selves and our family up we would be to busy to worry about what some one else got going on - One love❤️

  • @queeniefullofvybes3073
    @queeniefullofvybes3073 5 лет назад +11

    I love Spice! Start real meaningful conversation!

  • @ELP1125
    @ELP1125 3 года назад +1

    There’s a bias against people with darker skin Mimi. That’s not hard to comprehend

  • @bitesize8884
    @bitesize8884 5 лет назад +3

    🥰 I love this debate it's not over a man it's about something serious I approve of this message

  • @kererose2742
    @kererose2742 5 лет назад +6

    We in 2019 and still tryna justify the reason why bleach our skin and most of the comments here are agreeing with sky, what you agreeing with.Why was black of all shades created and exists, melanin is very beautiful its the only skin color and skin tone that no one can bleach into unless they black fish, that is how unique darker skin tone is.Its 2019 no matter how lighter you make your skin to be, its not gonna boost your self confidence, or your self esteem ,if you dont self confidence in who you are as a person , thats it, its about time darker skinned black women to rise up, take their mantle and shine.Lupita Nyon'go comes from the darkest skinned toned tribe in Kenya and am sure she was called names, teased but look her now,Danai as well with all their darkness, and so many other women thriving in the industry or even world .To young person who will ever read this, i hope you read this and know that you are beautiful in whatever shade of color that you are, do not listen to what the society says, create your own sound and hear your own voice and the Lord God your creator who tells you, you are beautiful, amazing and you are a queen and the only way someone else will treat you as such is when you do yourself.

  • @sharonhala9675
    @sharonhala9675 5 лет назад +18

    Maybe back in the day but not now I hear ppl praising dark skin women and men .

    • @silvercole9291
      @silvercole9291 5 лет назад

      Amen. it has been like that ,but the media makes decisions for us .... I'm dark skin and it never bothered me until I met my Jamaican husband smh only thing I really wanted growing up was long long hair as a child i use to put pants and shirts on my head lol lol only inside not outside 🤣🤣🤣👊👌

    • @_504yaknow
      @_504yaknow 5 лет назад

      Yes

    • @dawnlee866
      @dawnlee866 5 лет назад +1

      My sister is dark skin & gorgeous! We went to Miami....omg, white, Hispanic & black men were in absolute in awww of her! I was a Lil jealous😂😂😂❣️❤️

    • @smjenn8394
      @smjenn8394 5 лет назад +1

      Yeah but it’s still a huge major problem but I don’t see it in real life I see it lair on social media but I feel it’s fake love and fetishes

  • @maririnea9276
    @maririnea9276 5 лет назад +1

    Two beautiful black women...colorism needs to end...outside appearances shouldn't matter. What matters is how we treat people!

  • @snoodhoney1838
    @snoodhoney1838 5 лет назад +5

    Every shade is beautiful BESIDES THE SHADE OF BLEACH SORRY SPICE

  • @17Denisha
    @17Denisha 4 года назад

    Sometimes you cannot understand the pain when it’s not yours to bear.

  • @safirelilly420
    @safirelilly420 5 лет назад +12

    Different color skin, BUT WE ALL BLEED THE SAME COLOR, IGNORANCE IS BLISS!!!

  • @WestIndianAK
    @WestIndianAK 5 лет назад +1

    This scene is really ironic. Mimi is arguably wrong (and I would say she *IS* wrong) at 1:56 when she says that straightening our hair and lightening our skin is "totally different." Madame C.J. Walker's legacy is actually controversial precisely because she popularized the practice of hair-straightening. *BOTH* hair straightening and skin bleaching are products of the racist, Eurocentric beauty norms that Black people have internalized over the centuries. Spice is absolutely right at 2:45 when she pointed out that "Black hypocrisy is not just about your skin color; it's also about your hair texture."
    I made the same point in a recent RUclips video of mine: ruclips.net/video/VpS8U1MB-U8/видео.html

  • @rakiraduncombe2949
    @rakiraduncombe2949 5 лет назад +14

    Black people face problems period 🤦🏽‍♀️. Light or dark we face the same problems in different ways. Saying one has it harder doesn't fix anything 🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @akilalleyne426
      @akilalleyne426 4 года назад +16

      Not acknowledging the disparity between the way the populations are treated is what doesn't fix anything. You can't cure a disease until you diagnose it first.

    • @uknown8387
      @uknown8387 2 года назад

      @@akilalleyne426 WELL SAID🤝🏾

  • @sweetpine5874
    @sweetpine5874 5 лет назад

    "Nuh stress nuh deh inna the hair" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @honeyp4760
    @honeyp4760 5 лет назад +10

    Isn’t a debate 💯spice should love herself no matter wat shade she is
    Spice look a damm fool tryna lighten herself period embrace your beauty and love your skin period💯

    • @amandamarcelle2572
      @amandamarcelle2572 5 лет назад

      Thank u I agree

    • @starrrjackson969
      @starrrjackson969 5 лет назад

      SHE DIDN'T LIGHTEN HER SKIN IT WAS FOR A VIDEO FOR HER MUSIC VIDEO FOR HER NEW SONG BLACK I UNDERSTAND HER SO MUCH BECAUSE HERE IN JAMAICA THE SKIN BLEACHING IS SO POPULAR AND GIRLS WITH A LIGHTER SKIN DO GET NOTICED MORE

  • @Scissor18Luv
    @Scissor18Luv 4 года назад +1

    This is a COLORISM issue not a RACISM issue Mimi.

  • @1goddessy193
    @1goddessy193 5 лет назад +6

    Mimi is lighter tone but very much a black woman she is hardly privileged she not that damn light

    • @zleo7054
      @zleo7054 5 лет назад

      But compared to Spice she light skin. I'm in between MiMi and Spice and I have witnessed darker skinned people not be treated or talked to the same as a lighter skin. I have two cousins who are sisters one really dark and one really light. They were in the store and a worker said that the light skin sister looked better than the dark skin one. Unless you are darker complected you won't get it

    • @ty9530
      @ty9530 5 лет назад

      I think where spice went wrong, was telling mimi shes never been black. I think that's one of the reasons why mimi isn't understanding. Also the first arguement they had, the way spice explained it, I didn't get it either, and it sounded like she wanted to bleach her skin to be lighter, I think that's another reason why mimi doesn't get it.

    • @ty9530
      @ty9530 5 лет назад

      @TruMusic89 exactly.

    • @moonie1825
      @moonie1825 4 года назад

      @@ty9530 In Jamaica black isn't used to point out your "race" It's used to point out your colour. Jamaicans wouldn't call mimi a black woman they would call her a brownin and she would be treated differently better accordingly even more so than the colorism that already exist in america. Same thing for white if you are incredibly lightskinned they will call you white even if in america you aren't.

  • @savedanddelivered1420
    @savedanddelivered1420 5 лет назад +1

    I don't like how MiMi is acting like colorism does not happen in the African American community. Born bred and raised in the African American community and I can honestly say colorism is very real, the Good hair and Bad hair thing is very real.

  • @mleon3384
    @mleon3384 5 лет назад +6

    Shes beautiful the way she is. Smdh.

  • @gellybellybitch
    @gellybellybitch 4 года назад +1

    I think that Mimi GENUINELY doesn’t understand what Spice is saying. I love Spice’s message is beautiful but bleaching your skin is not the answer, changing yourself is never the answer

  • @sherickajohnson9304
    @sherickajohnson9304 5 лет назад +8

    Im a darker shade of black and I love the skin I'm in, don't care what anyone thinks I know my self worth I'm beautiful 😘 black women know your self worth 😘😍 😍😍😍 facts 💯💪💪💪💪👊👊👊👊

  • @chloemorgan985
    @chloemorgan985 5 лет назад +2

    Mimi doesn't understand and will never...she's not dark

  • @tanisha.r.thomas
    @tanisha.r.thomas 5 лет назад +3

    Here my thing....because natural hair nazis will say that blow drying is not natural. Does that make them right? A pressing comb is used to make it easier to comb your hair. Period. I dont have 3 hours somedays to deal with my hair in curly state. Why do we even have to quantify it on these levels!!!! We are all black. We all have had terrible experiences in relation to WHATEVER color brown you are. I get it Spice, I do. My mother and I are the lightest among a dark-skinned family. I prayed for children the color of them because I hated....excuse me....hate this lightness. We all have a struggle....lol...MImi.....let Spice live and learn. None of us have every really walked in someo ne else's shoes✊👊

  • @roxanneroxanne7425
    @roxanneroxanne7425 5 лет назад +1

    Meemee isn't listening. She's only hearing. Big difference.

  • @ms.cucu4CocoPuffs
    @ms.cucu4CocoPuffs Год назад +1

    Mimi sounds so ignorant saying that first line😪
    Literally pops up on the screen and says something stupid

  • @destinetobegreat
    @destinetobegreat 5 лет назад +6

    I would rather watch them argue about things like this than argue and fight over bullshit that don't matter

  • @zayathomas9351
    @zayathomas9351 4 года назад +1

    Y’all getting mad at mimi but she just isn’t educated on the manner & hasn’t had her eyes open to everything that is going on. Stop bashing her & educate her respectfully tf

  • @sheka9266
    @sheka9266 5 лет назад +3

    I agree to some extent with spice n some with mimi
    The hair that was legit
    But if spice do bleaches.... Thats too wild
    Instead of changing... Show that its ok to be darker skin.... This can get real twisted if u change over.. When lil Kim did... It did so much to young black females

    • @edwardsimmons3190
      @edwardsimmons3190 5 лет назад

      See I'm with you, in the middle

    • @terryannlewis8035
      @terryannlewis8035 5 лет назад

      Lil kim did not do it for a cause she did it for fame and money ... On the other hand spice is doing it for a causr and mimi is point less because she is clueless how can u agree with someone who actually bleach her self to fit in ..mimi is the one being a hypocrite

  • @skylergusman6270
    @skylergusman6270 5 лет назад +1

    They BOTH have very valid points... I genuinely feel that way. 😳

  • @hildahmilanoi1446
    @hildahmilanoi1446 5 лет назад +3

    I Feel u Spice

  • @nyaunapatterson5843
    @nyaunapatterson5843 4 года назад +1

    I get understand spice but I also understand Mimi because they both have valid points to me.

  • @tanzythompkins9109
    @tanzythompkins9109 5 лет назад +2

    Mimi is seeing things her way and she will never I understand where Spice is coming from. They should put Mimi in darker make-up and Spice in lighter make-up and take them out for a social experiment then see how Mimi feels.

  • @lashayymorgan664
    @lashayymorgan664 5 лет назад

    every shade of black is unique and beautiful. god made us all perfect out our moms. society told us that girls should be short lightskin, mixed with long hair. like society told us girls have to have a big butt...so we get surgery. we’re imperfecting his gift ..your the gift. ur beautiful❤️ love your skin and wake up

  • @5.10brwnskin
    @5.10brwnskin 5 лет назад +5

    All I see is a lighter skinned woman arguing with a darker skinned woman about her struggles SIMPLY as a dark skin woman, the very struggles which mimi will never know..... because she isn't daaaarrrrrk skiinnnned lol!!

  • @shannacollins8371
    @shannacollins8371 4 года назад +1

    It's easier to discuss light skin privilege in the Caribbean because it's easier to see: the elite in the Caribbean are often mixed or light-skinned. In America, there tends to be much denial about it, but discussing colorism is a component of dismantling white supremacy.

  • @CRML_Spot
    @CRML_Spot 5 лет назад +5

    Willie Lynch would be so proud ! Melanin is freaking beautiful and awesome. Our oppressors know it...why don't we ?