At 15:18 I was thinking "how is he going to make a comeback with 1 coin" but then I remembered coins don't affect your glider speed and then you won HAHAHA
I genuinely believe the comet/yoshi bike is the most underrated vehicles right now. People dont really seem to appreciate how much better inside drift has become after the patch. They were unplayable with Waluigi since you need such high handling for inside drift in this game, but with the yoshi class + optimal miniturbo they are so much better to drive. So much easier to dodge items cause youre taking different lines, easier to snipe others, and it just feels so rewarding when you do a turn as tight as possible. Really brought a lot of joy to the game back for me once i decided to start learning it!
@@TWD98 The biggest learning curve is trying to get your brain to understand the outside drift part. You have to start your drift earlier than on Wii, and you also have to start your drift a tiny bit before passing a corner. Like you're basically wanting to start a drift like an outside drift vehicle but a lot tighter. Once you get it you really begin to appreciate the crazy tight lines you can take with inside drift. Also, handling matters SO MUCH MORE on inside drift in this game than on outside drift, the yoshi class is the bare minimum of viable handling so don't fret about using a class with even more handling when learning!
Although these are all very valid pros for inside drift bikes, the biggest issues with them are the meta shortcuts and techniques that they have a harder time to do / straight up cannot do. Hopping to realign is impossible with inside drift, and super bouncing off bouncing pads is impossible too. Hyrule Circuit's NISC is a lot harder with inside drift, DK Summit's double alignment is harder, Mushroom Gorge's gap jump is a lot harder (+ no super bounce possible), Dragon Driftway's gap jump is basically impossible shroomless, DK Mountain's gap jump you have to take it much wider, and I'm probably missing more. And that's without mentioning the weird turns some tracks have that you simply have to get some practice to get around them, like Donut Plains 3, Ninja Hideaway, DS Mario Circuit, etc Don't get me wrong, I love inside drift and I've been maining Yoshi Bike since even before the BCP, but the cons outweighs the pros by a lot in my opinion
@@wistitipnf404 What's the Hyrule Circuit NISC? I recognized all the others you mentioned, but I'm confused on the NISC. Is that where you hop over the off-road entering the S-bend with the Deku-Piranhas?
@@zainepittman653 yes that's the one. it's harder with inside drift because of the way to have to sway in and take the turn (the fence on the left and the upcoming tree are the biggest issues)
Dude, I just got suggested a video by you randomly. It’s Jes from Rv and Legacy. Kind of miss those old days. I see you are still playing. I quit all games in 2013. That’s crazy!
in response to that comment at 16:51, Rock Rock Mountain is a bagging track with a massive shortcut and you were playing the fastest vehicle frame in the game. Bagging tracks favor speed vehicles because mushrooms and other speed items give bigger boosts to faster vehicles, so taking that massive shortcut in such a fast vehicle frame is what made that victory possible. The Circuit Special is (design-wise) my favorite vehicle frame, though, so still a massive W : )
Yeah, was looking for comments about this, RRM is a top-tier bagging track, sort of a mix of Cheese Land's gliding and Dry Dry Desert's massive mushroom cuts. That post-glider shortcut is obscenely huge.
no joke i have the same playstyle as you😂, and omg i love your rating, its literally perfekt, i swear we have the same opinion on these vehicle, thank you so much, i love these videos, thank you so much, cant wait to watch the other rankings for tires. im gonna watch it straight after this video❤
Cool list, however, there are things that are a bit further from each other than they really should be. The Mach 8 and Inkstriker have the same stats, people just use Inkstriker for its smaller hitbox, so it is definitely better, but a C-S distance might be a bit much imo :)). Otherwise, great vid!
It honestly depends on your philosophy. While yes technically Mach 8 should be like only a single spot lower than Ink, practically there's no reason to ever use Mach 8 online because Ink Striker 100% outclasses it. I think something being outclassed should lower its placement further.
There's def a few vehicles that have identical stats that he rated far apart just cuz he was going off of vibes. For example Landship and Streetle have identical statlines, but they were also split B-S.
You'd still be wrong since mach 8 has more invincibility than the inkstriker, so technically, not 100% better. Also, i think bigger hitbox = bigger target, but more likely to pick up item boxes and coins, plus able to lean off a ledge further on courses with cliffs. Lastly, general performance i think matters more, as the mach 8 isn't better than the inkstriker, but would it be just above steel driver? Same tier as circuit special? Lol it's far better than both. @SeaOfPixels
@@James-pb8xu In fairness, trying to lean off the coarse like you're a world record Rainbow Road time trialer is kinda just asking to get bumped off by the entire lobby. Now I know what you're thinking "Clearly you exaggerate sir, while certainly such risky strategies invite the potential for any little thing to go wrong, surely one cannot have the ENTIRE lobby bump me off at the same time", but no. There's this really weird glitch in MK8 DX online where trying to pull risky speedrun strats allows everyone else to ignore eachother's collision for the sole purpose of bumping you off the road. It's kinda wild.
You have to make one video someday ranking combos suggested by subscribers. Also, the City Tripper is underrated. I remember my first time choosing it on MK8DX, it was Christmas, my parents had given me and my brother a Nintendo Switch and we had just played Mario Odyssey. Then I found the City Tripper while we were playing together and said: 'Hey look, it's the bike from Mario Odyssey's Metro Kingdom!' and decided to try it because of how much I had liked the game. I was surprised with how good it was. Also, Yoshi bike has the same stats as the Teddy Buggy (just a little more invincibility) and the Cat Cruiser also has the same stats (just even more inv. frames than the Yoshi Bike or the Teddy Buggy). Btw, have a nice day Troy! :)
As someone who has exclusively used the Flame Rider since day one of this game in 2014, it is a HEAVILY underrated vehicle. So happy to see it get some much deserved praise!!!
I think the comet is underrated people should use it more. It has been my main combo with dry bones and roller wheels for such a long time. I have gained about 16k VR just with it
Underrated cart is the Tanookie cart Overrated vehicle is the Duke Love your videos Troy definitely one of my favorite Mk8 videos yet. Can’t wait for more. Good luck on the race to 30k
While I'm a Comet enthusiast myself I believe Streetle / Landship to be the most underrated, A lot of stats are identical to Teddy Buggy / Cat Cruiser however the former has an advantage on Water and Ice where as the latter is Anti Grav and Glider, It's a great flex pick if you notice a Water track in rotation (Dolphin Shoals or Amsterdam Drift for example) as you'll be able to rival even Mr. Scooty / Biddybuggy. Here's my personal Tier List: - S Tier (Great) Mr. Scooty / Biddybuggy Teddy Buggy / Cat Cruiser - A Tier (Good) City Tripper / Varmint / Pipe Frame Streetle / Landship Comet / Yoshi Bike - B Tier (Decent) Inkstriker / Sports Coupe / Mach 8 Standard Kart / The Duke / 300 SL Roadster Tanooki Kart / Koopa Clown / Master Cycle Zero - C Tier (Underwhelming) Wild Wiggler / Standard Bike / Flame Rider / W 25 Silver Arrow Blue Falcon / Splat Buggy Sport Bike / Jet Bike Prancer - D Tier (Horrible) Gold Standard / Sneeker B Dasher / P-Wing / Circuit Special Master Cycle Bone Rattler / Tri-Speeder / Steel Driver Standard ATV / Badwagon / GLA
This was an interesting way to do a frame tier list. The pipeframe objectively should be in S tier as it has the same ground speed and miniturbo as cat cruiser and teddy but better handling and more acceleration. And pipeframe has same handling as Biddy Buggy with .50 more speed and only .25 less miniturbo.
Same stats as the Pipe Frame, pretty solid vehicles all around. Only got the game a few weeks ago, and my main is Rosalina, City Tripper, Roller, Paper. I can't wait to get the Pipe Frame, because I feel having 4 wheels would allow me to get lucky saves more often when I'm bumped off track on some turns. The combo I used the most before getting the Tripper was Rosalina, Streetle, Button, Roller, Flower.
Honestly I think the projectile spam/backspam at the line with MK8D is less so an issue with the items themselves perse (aside from the fire flower), but moreso the fact that you can hold two items or atleast that you can get two items in one set. It kinda allows people to have atleast 2 a decent amount of the time or atleast one most of the time, which innately just means overall more projectile items are given in general aswell as using them to hit players being less punishing given you'll likely have a 2nd item anyways, not helped by the fact that more than just the shells exist as projectiles.
Pipeframe stays underrated! Same speed and mini turbo as Teddy with better acceleration, traction, and handling! It does lose some points for anti-grav, but I love the way it feels driving it
I'm using City Tripper for my Rosalina while I wait to unlock the Pipe Frame, same stats, also underrated. Sometimes, I feel using a "bike" is dangerous, especially when on the inside of a gap turn and everyone is bumping you.
35:51 Tip of advice to everyone someone throws out a blue shell, it shows on the mini map. I usually when I see a blue shell on the mini map I break and let 2nd place take the blue shell.
1:21:20 I can answer this pretty well. There are a number of reasons that Yoshi Bike is better than Comet, but I’ll keep it as short as possible. The Yoshi Bike has a smaller hitbox, both in length and height, making it easier to dodge items. Additionally, wall dodging reds is easier on the Yoshi Bike due to its smaller hitbox. The additional 1-2 frames of invincibility don’t have enough of an effect to justify switching. Additionally, the Yoshi Bike has hands that help to visual align with the turns better. Lastly, yes, it’s way cooler.
1:24:50 No problem Troy! Love your content dude! The most underrated frame is probably the Varmint. It has really good stats but literally no one uses it!
City Tripper would definitely be my pick for underrated in general. I never see it used but it's a pretty fun and good vehicle to use, and the fact it has so many different color variations makes it all the more fun to pick with different characters. Kinda makes me wish more vehicles did that in this game, it really adds a layer of personality to each character you pick. On kind of a side note, another reason I wished the vehicles had more color variations is because the Koopalings' standard kart colorations are so good but you only can see those on like, 4 vehicle parts sadly
This video just makes it more obvious that the Build-A-Kart mechanic’s really restrictive with optimal vehicle combos, even for typical online play. When the next major Mario Kart releases, I really hope Nintendo either goes back to the DD/ DS/ Wii structure of having fully pre-set Karts, or going full-in with making a vehicle fully customisable down to every aspect.
oh wow i did get to play 2 races with you without even knowing lol !! I played Amsterdam and London at 33:00 ish. I'm usually playing 6v6 or lounge but this time I was going into WW to play with my friend (MEDJAY) that was really unlikely to happen !
Great vid! Loved it all the way through. most overrated imo is the Flame Rider (which shares stats with the Wild Wiggler), tho is does have one my favorite engine sounds most underrated I think is the Koopa Clown and Master Cycle Zero. Its only real weakness is its Acceleration, as it has exceptionally high handling for its very well rounded speed stats. Also the best traction in the game. Loving the MK8DX content!
FINALLY!!!! The moment that MANY of us have been waiting for! This is definitely the perfect time to sit back, relax, and enjoy Troy’s generous uploaded video content! This tier list is underrated based on how you presented every vehicle, Troy! I would score this video as 100/100 for your expertise!
Hey TWD98 I’m an inside dirt player in MK8 and let me tell you that the sports bike and the jet bike have the same stats. While the comet and the Toshiba bike have the same stats as the cat cruiser and the teddy buggy. Make sure you look at the stats so you know what you’re racing. If you were do bump into each other in mk8 just remember that I have funky king comet metal tires and normal glider
28:22 you got a star because the items you get on this game are partially affected by how far you are from first, and since peachette who was in first already was on the other side of the cannon, the game think that 1st place has a huge break away
Actually yoshi is same as teddy Comet is same as cat cruiser so comet is the bike with more invincibility stat, meanign that the real meta should be daisy comet bike
It's funny seeing so many frames with identical stats ranked so far from their clones, haha. I guess that'll happen when you only get one race with each.
blue falcon in C tier is insane 😭 i know its not as good as the Wii U but its still a very solid vehicle, it should still be in A atleast, i just dont think it works well with mario but im also biased, cuz ive loved it since the Wii U days and i usually use what i like and not whats meta lol
does anyone know why course names are different for different countries? for example in australia (where i live) rock rock mountain is called alpine pass and Neo bowser city is called koopa city, there are more that i can’t remember
32:10 This vehicle is just the inkstriker with one extra invincibility stat It definitely shouldn’t be a C tier, as inkstriker is kind of meta and sports coupe is just the same thing but slightly bigger hit box and one more invincibility stat.
This looks fun, I recently purchased a Nintendo switch it's really enjoyable, I have Mario kart 8 deluxe on it, love watching these videos, playing as funky Kong is really fun, 😁 thanks for the great content
So excited to watch this, got my Nintendo switch last month and I got bcp yesterday so I’m very excited to play all new tracks, I just unlocked mr scooty and teddybuggy and I can’t decide what’s the better one. So excited to see your thoughts and opinions. Continue with your awesome content 🔥👏
Great video as usual! Playing on good combos is like night and day, speaking of which... 50:45 not realizing how many bad karts there are shows a big problem with the game imo. I know meta players don't care as long as the feeling and performance is good, and I agree from a mechanics perspective, but as a delusional LARPer, it feels REALLY bad that so many cool kart designs are so bad. Almost every single good kart is like child/toy/funny design, especially considering rollers are the best tires. Why can't actual racecars be good in a racing game :( if only speed mattered
I'd love to see you attempt this challenge again with tyres. Just keep the Standard Kart and Super Glider on, but change the tyres every race. I think it'd be interesting to see how they stack up against each other!
That'd be a poor test. The tires - and gliders for that matter - are a lot less in number compared to frames. Not to mention there's more grouping of stats in the tires and gliders, so more multitudes of tires and gliders have the same stats. The most you could base them on is bounciness for the monsters and cushion tires, and the gliders would be based on visibility of the road beneath you. That's it.
@@zainepittman653 I mean, testing the different frames is hardly scientific either. There are too many variables at play to effectively showcase which ones are objectively 'better'. At the end of the day, I still think it would be fun to test them out for some vehicle variety, especially since the wheels are still fairly significant. You're right that the gliders barely change anything, though.
I think master cycle zero is underrated not because its better than other vehicles but because it looks and feels good with azure rollers and Link and i really like the sound of the engine!
not gonna lie, sometimes I favour being a larger hitbox for the reason staying on the track and not falling is more manageable if u know how. I play multiple combos most the time, but main Koopa streetle cushion wheels.
@twd98 draft cancels mini turbo! That’s why you couldn’t pass the yoshi, he got his mini turbo boost and yours was cancelled when you drafted. Hold the mini turbo till the draft starts if you can.
Can you redo your all characters 150 point challenge its when (at about wave 3) you raced a race with every character and you aimed for as less points as possible. 1st=1 point 12th=12 points and so on . The goal was to do it under 150 points. Would be really nice to see because you have got so much better at MK8 Deluxe. Loved the VID.
About why is Yoshi Bike used instead of comet if they share stats: basically, the maneuvering with the Yoshi Bike is better (+ the hitbox of the comet is bigger than It shows)
I always wondered. Thanks for the info ! I do need to try the Yoshi bike. Avoided it till now as I only got the game recently, for fear I'd like inside drift better and lock myself out of many karts to use with friends.
Honestly, my favorite combo to use is Mario with the Sports Bike + Roller Wheels + Cloud Glider. I like it way more than meta for specifically the fact that the Sports Bike has inside drift, and once you get used to it, the feeling is eerily similar to Funky Kong with the Flame Runner back in MKWii, so I suggest trying it out sometime if you’re wanting to try out inside drift.
Most underrated vehicle by far is the City Tripper. Same primary stats as Teddy and car cruiser. Different secondary stats. Absolutely S tier. It was good for a reason.
6:33 Because that's the standard game design practice for every online game. If you get shot on someone else's screen in an FPS but the bullet doesn't hit you on yours, it hits you.
In this game, that's only true for trailing/rotating items though which is what makes it frustrating. If an item is thrown, you're hit based on whether or not it hit you on your own screen.
It's not a good game design for racing games like Mario Kart tho. A laggy player has an advantage when rotating/trailing items cuz their lag sometimes makes inaccurate predictions of where another player is on their screen... you can easily get hit by their items even when you're realistically nowhere near them because of this, and it's one of the most frustrating things ever.
idk if it would make that much of a difference, but you should make a tier list of all vehicle frames on 200cc. love the mario kart 8 content by the way! i missed these videos
I wish this game handled frames like how CTR Nitro Fueled did The only thing that mattered was the engine, both vehicle parts and driver was purely cosmetic. And MK8DX has a lot of cool frames that are pretty bad because of their stats. Also being able to choose the color of vehicles (like the biddybuggy/pipe frame to give a example) could be a nice option (something like yoshi/birdo/shy guy colors)
At 15:18 I was thinking "how is he going to make a comeback with 1 coin" but then I remembered coins don't affect your glider speed and then you won HAHAHA
@@minibang2543 Nope, not funny.
YOU MADE A SHORT ON THIS WHY DIDN'T YOU REALISE IN THE FIRST PLACE
@@DittoGTIyou could say SHORTcat 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭
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Ha
35:33 "throw another red, i dare you"
*throws 2 more* 💀
and then the blueshell right after 😂
and i took that personally
35:39
I genuinely believe the comet/yoshi bike is the most underrated vehicles right now. People dont really seem to appreciate how much better inside drift has become after the patch. They were unplayable with Waluigi since you need such high handling for inside drift in this game, but with the yoshi class + optimal miniturbo they are so much better to drive. So much easier to dodge items cause youre taking different lines, easier to snipe others, and it just feels so rewarding when you do a turn as tight as possible. Really brought a lot of joy to the game back for me once i decided to start learning it!
I need to give it another chance, it has interesting and useful advantages with item evasion compared to outside for sure
@@TWD98 The biggest learning curve is trying to get your brain to understand the outside drift part. You have to start your drift earlier than on Wii, and you also have to start your drift a tiny bit before passing a corner. Like you're basically wanting to start a drift like an outside drift vehicle but a lot tighter. Once you get it you really begin to appreciate the crazy tight lines you can take with inside drift. Also, handling matters SO MUCH MORE on inside drift in this game than on outside drift, the yoshi class is the bare minimum of viable handling so don't fret about using a class with even more handling when learning!
Although these are all very valid pros for inside drift bikes, the biggest issues with them are the meta shortcuts and techniques that they have a harder time to do / straight up cannot do. Hopping to realign is impossible with inside drift, and super bouncing off bouncing pads is impossible too. Hyrule Circuit's NISC is a lot harder with inside drift, DK Summit's double alignment is harder, Mushroom Gorge's gap jump is a lot harder (+ no super bounce possible), Dragon Driftway's gap jump is basically impossible shroomless, DK Mountain's gap jump you have to take it much wider, and I'm probably missing more. And that's without mentioning the weird turns some tracks have that you simply have to get some practice to get around them, like Donut Plains 3, Ninja Hideaway, DS Mario Circuit, etc
Don't get me wrong, I love inside drift and I've been maining Yoshi Bike since even before the BCP, but the cons outweighs the pros by a lot in my opinion
@@wistitipnf404 What's the Hyrule Circuit NISC? I recognized all the others you mentioned, but I'm confused on the NISC. Is that where you hop over the off-road entering the S-bend with the Deku-Piranhas?
@@zainepittman653 yes that's the one. it's harder with inside drift because of the way to have to sway in and take the turn (the fence on the left and the upcoming tree are the biggest issues)
Dude, I just got suggested a video by you randomly. It’s Jes from Rv and Legacy. Kind of miss those old days. I see you are still playing. I quit all games in 2013. That’s crazy!
Great to hear from you Jes, those were fun times! Hope all is well :)
Old friends reunited:) the greatest feeling in life
That's 11 years ago btw that's wild
@@TWD98 Great vid but i think that wiggler should be in S because at a time it was the best Kart in Mk8 so it should be honored
in response to that comment at 16:51, Rock Rock Mountain is a bagging track with a massive shortcut and you were playing the fastest vehicle frame in the game. Bagging tracks favor speed vehicles because mushrooms and other speed items give bigger boosts to faster vehicles, so taking that massive shortcut in such a fast vehicle frame is what made that victory possible.
The Circuit Special is (design-wise) my favorite vehicle frame, though, so still a massive W : )
Yeah, was looking for comments about this, RRM is a top-tier bagging track, sort of a mix of Cheese Land's gliding and Dry Dry Desert's massive mushroom cuts. That post-glider shortcut is obscenely huge.
51:47 "This is nice! This vehicle is awful!" 😂
When the content creator contradicts themselves...
he wasn't contradicting himself, the "nice" wasn't for the vehicle it was what he just said
Should've done every single combo smh
casual video thats 200 hours long or sum
Too many combinations. Besides Mario plus roller wheels is a good balance and it gives all the frames a fair evaluation
@@maliabletick9557 nah there's not to many it'd be so easy smh
It would be pretty easy he would just have to do 1 race with every combo
Yes there's clearly not hundreds of combos at it won't take that long 😤😤😤
no joke i have the same playstyle as you😂, and omg i love your rating, its literally perfekt, i swear we have the same opinion on these vehicle, thank you so much, i love these videos, thank you so much, cant wait to watch the other rankings for tires. im gonna watch it straight after this video❤
“This vehicle…….sucks. What is it even called?”
This made me laugh way more than it should have. 😂
X. X. X ç
“Pure bliss on the bikes”
Has bro forgotten what inward drift in this game is like?
Some of the inside drift bikes are actually pretty good! Others not so much..
Yeah, it's pretty crazy how many people are using the yoshi bike now. It's actually viable!
Hi I rlly like your vids I watch them every day after school, especially mkwii!
There are way more bad karts than bad bikes even though the best karts are better than the best bikes.
@@TWD98it's because Yoshi Bike and Comet share stats with the one and only Teddy Buggy
I feel like the sillier the vehicle, the better it is in Mario Kart 8. And if it's like an actually cool looking car, it's horrible.
And also tyres. The cooler looking the worst it is
Cool list, however, there are things that are a bit further from each other than they really should be. The Mach 8 and Inkstriker have the same stats, people just use Inkstriker for its smaller hitbox, so it is definitely better, but a C-S distance might be a bit much imo :)). Otherwise, great vid!
Yea it's really interesting how some of the vehicles with the same stats feel vastly different due to hitbox
It honestly depends on your philosophy. While yes technically Mach 8 should be like only a single spot lower than Ink, practically there's no reason to ever use Mach 8 online because Ink Striker 100% outclasses it. I think something being outclassed should lower its placement further.
There's def a few vehicles that have identical stats that he rated far apart just cuz he was going off of vibes. For example Landship and Streetle have identical statlines, but they were also split B-S.
You'd still be wrong since mach 8 has more invincibility than the inkstriker, so technically, not 100% better.
Also, i think bigger hitbox = bigger target, but more likely to pick up item boxes and coins, plus able to lean off a ledge further on courses with cliffs. Lastly, general performance i think matters more, as the mach 8 isn't better than the inkstriker, but would it be just above steel driver? Same tier as circuit special? Lol it's far better than both. @SeaOfPixels
@@James-pb8xu In fairness, trying to lean off the coarse like you're a world record Rainbow Road time trialer is kinda just asking to get bumped off by the entire lobby.
Now I know what you're thinking "Clearly you exaggerate sir, while certainly such risky strategies invite the potential for any little thing to go wrong, surely one cannot have the ENTIRE lobby bump me off at the same time", but no. There's this really weird glitch in MK8 DX online where trying to pull risky speedrun strats allows everyone else to ignore eachother's collision for the sole purpose of bumping you off the road. It's kinda wild.
You have to make one video someday ranking combos suggested by subscribers. Also, the City Tripper is underrated. I remember my first time choosing it on MK8DX, it was Christmas, my parents had given me and my brother a Nintendo Switch and we had just played Mario Odyssey. Then I found the City Tripper while we were playing together and said: 'Hey look, it's the bike from Mario Odyssey's Metro Kingdom!' and decided to try it because of how much I had liked the game. I was surprised with how good it was. Also, Yoshi bike has the same stats as the Teddy Buggy (just a little more invincibility) and the Cat Cruiser also has the same stats (just even more inv. frames than the Yoshi Bike or the Teddy Buggy).
Btw, have a nice day Troy! :)
i think i used to use the city tripper a lot when i actually played the game lol
As someone who has exclusively used the Flame Rider since day one of this game in 2014, it is a HEAVILY underrated vehicle. So happy to see it get some much deserved praise!!!
the flame rider wasn't that good in mk8 because in that game speed matters more than mini-turbo unlike in this game
I think the comet is underrated people should use it more. It has been my main combo with dry bones and roller wheels for such a long time. I have gained about 16k VR just with it
18:35 You could also react to the Boo coming to steal your item in DS unlike 8DX.
You could? Was there some way to dodge them?
@@sandwich4763 It was just how it worked, you could react to it and use your items before it stole them.
@@SeaOfPixels I forgot about that, that would make the boo so much better in this game
Let's go, Troy's using the actual best character (Mario)!
I find it funny that for the Standard Bike, the Flame Rider, AND the Wild Wiggler (which all have the same stats) you got Waluigi Pinball as the track
that's a crazy coincidence hahaha
Underrated cart is the Tanookie cart
Overrated vehicle is the Duke
Love your videos Troy definitely one of my favorite Mk8 videos yet. Can’t wait for more. Good luck on the race to 30k
The pirate ship is my favorite
erm actually it's an airship
@@beegbeeg507 Don't be petty
@@Limitless_Realm nuh uh
I like the p wing
While I'm a Comet enthusiast myself I believe Streetle / Landship to be the most underrated, A lot of stats are identical to Teddy Buggy / Cat Cruiser however the former has an advantage on Water and Ice where as the latter is Anti Grav and Glider, It's a great flex pick if you notice a Water track in rotation (Dolphin Shoals or Amsterdam Drift for example) as you'll be able to rival even Mr. Scooty / Biddybuggy.
Here's my personal Tier List:
- S Tier (Great)
Mr. Scooty / Biddybuggy
Teddy Buggy / Cat Cruiser
- A Tier (Good)
City Tripper / Varmint / Pipe Frame
Streetle / Landship
Comet / Yoshi Bike
- B Tier (Decent)
Inkstriker / Sports Coupe / Mach 8
Standard Kart / The Duke / 300 SL Roadster
Tanooki Kart / Koopa Clown / Master Cycle Zero
- C Tier (Underwhelming)
Wild Wiggler / Standard Bike / Flame Rider / W 25 Silver Arrow
Blue Falcon / Splat Buggy
Sport Bike / Jet Bike
Prancer
- D Tier (Horrible)
Gold Standard / Sneeker
B Dasher / P-Wing / Circuit Special
Master Cycle
Bone Rattler / Tri-Speeder / Steel Driver
Standard ATV / Badwagon / GLA
the tanooki kart is better than the wild wiggler
@@gamecubeplayer I could see Wild Wiggler being C Tier, They hit it quite hard so it's only now starting to grow back on me.
1:25:00 i think the most underrated frame is the standard bike but that's ofc just my opinion. btw great video as always ^^
2:47 Hey Lois, I’m a Mii! Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe…
This was an interesting way to do a frame tier list. The pipeframe objectively should be in S tier as it has the same ground speed and miniturbo as cat cruiser and teddy but better handling and more acceleration. And pipeframe has same handling as Biddy Buggy with .50 more speed and only .25 less miniturbo.
Finally someone who respects the pipe frame!
@@IVARtheguyIt's my main and i really like how it feels
Troy drops another banger vid, certified hood classic 🔥
Imo the most underrated frame is the city tripper
Same stats as the Pipe Frame, pretty solid vehicles all around.
Only got the game a few weeks ago, and my main is Rosalina, City Tripper, Roller, Paper.
I can't wait to get the Pipe Frame, because I feel having 4 wheels would allow me to get lucky saves more often when I'm bumped off track on some turns.
The combo I used the most before getting the Tripper was Rosalina, Streetle, Button, Roller, Flower.
I know this finna be a certified hood classic 🔥
Honestly I think the projectile spam/backspam at the line with MK8D is less so an issue with the items themselves perse (aside from the fire flower), but moreso the fact that you can hold two items or atleast that you can get two items in one set. It kinda allows people to have atleast 2 a decent amount of the time or atleast one most of the time, which innately just means overall more projectile items are given in general aswell as using them to hit players being less punishing given you'll likely have a 2nd item anyways, not helped by the fact that more than just the shells exist as projectiles.
Pipeframe stays underrated! Same speed and mini turbo as Teddy with better acceleration, traction, and handling! It does lose some points for anti-grav, but I love the way it feels driving it
I'm using City Tripper for my Rosalina while I wait to unlock the Pipe Frame, same stats, also underrated.
Sometimes, I feel using a "bike" is dangerous, especially when on the inside of a gap turn and everyone is bumping you.
35:51 Tip of advice to everyone someone throws out a blue shell, it shows on the mini map. I usually when I see a blue shell on the mini map I break and let 2nd place take the blue shell.
39:49 I respect the fact that Nintendo didn’t make the GLA broken because of the brand tie-in, and instead made it awful
1:21:20 I can answer this pretty well. There are a number of reasons that Yoshi Bike is better than Comet, but I’ll keep it as short as possible. The Yoshi Bike has a smaller hitbox, both in length and height, making it easier to dodge items. Additionally, wall dodging reds is easier on the Yoshi Bike due to its smaller hitbox. The additional 1-2 frames of invincibility don’t have enough of an effect to justify switching. Additionally, the Yoshi Bike has hands that help to visual align with the turns better. Lastly, yes, it’s way cooler.
1:24:50
No problem Troy! Love your content dude!
The most underrated frame is probably the Varmint. It has really good stats but literally no one uses it!
8:06 Exactly my luck in most races!
The circuit special is the GOOOAAAATTT!!! IT WAS SO UNDERRATED!!!!
Man, the GLA should be much higher, after all its part of the loadout in the game
The Boogatti
City Tripper would definitely be my pick for underrated in general. I never see it used but it's a pretty fun and good vehicle to use, and the fact it has so many different color variations makes it all the more fun to pick with different characters.
Kinda makes me wish more vehicles did that in this game, it really adds a layer of personality to each character you pick.
On kind of a side note, another reason I wished the vehicles had more color variations is because the Koopalings' standard kart colorations are so good but you only can see those on like, 4 vehicle parts sadly
This video just makes it more obvious that the Build-A-Kart mechanic’s really restrictive with optimal vehicle combos, even for typical online play.
When the next major Mario Kart releases, I really hope Nintendo either goes back to the DD/ DS/ Wii structure of having fully pre-set Karts, or going full-in with making a vehicle fully customisable down to every aspect.
Nearly 2 hours of Troy playing MK8. This is what I need in my life
oh wow i did get to play 2 races with you without even knowing lol !! I played Amsterdam and London at 33:00 ish. I'm usually playing 6v6 or lounge but this time I was going into WW to play with my friend (MEDJAY) that was really unlikely to happen !
Me too 😂 I was the Austrian Yoshi the first 22min of the video
Great vid! Loved it all the way through.
most overrated imo is the Flame Rider (which shares stats with the Wild Wiggler), tho is does have one my favorite engine sounds
most underrated I think is the Koopa Clown and Master Cycle Zero. Its only real weakness is its Acceleration, as it has exceptionally high handling for its very well rounded speed stats. Also the best traction in the game.
Loving the MK8DX content!
I can definitely see that, Flame Rider looks the coolest so I want it so badly to be S even tho it isn't!
FINALLY!!!! The moment that MANY of us have been waiting for! This is definitely the perfect time to sit back, relax, and enjoy Troy’s generous uploaded video content! This tier list is underrated based on how you presented every vehicle, Troy! I would score this video as 100/100 for your expertise!
It was at this moment that Zach knew he f'cked up!!!!
Standard bike has been my bread and butter forever I’m glad you see the vision
I think the landship is underrated because it has the same stats as streetle but no-one uses it even though it has a smaller hitbox
Hey TWD98 I’m an inside dirt player in MK8 and let me tell you that the sports bike and the jet bike have the same stats. While the comet and the Toshiba bike have the same stats as the cat cruiser and the teddy buggy. Make sure you look at the stats so you know what you’re racing. If you were do bump into each other in mk8 just remember that I have funky king comet metal tires and normal glider
Inside *dirt* is right, brother
yeah i found it quite funny, that he ranked the sports bike in b and the jet bike in f even though they have the same stats
@@trixxer872 I don't think he was going by the stats alone. Afterall, he was talking about hit boxes with a lot of the frames as well.
Inside dirt bikers rise up
A 2 hour Mario Kart 8 Deluxe video. My prayers have been answered, thank you Troy!
28:22 you got a star because the items you get on this game are partially affected by how far you are from first, and since peachette who was in first already was on the other side of the cannon, the game think that 1st place has a huge break away
My combo is:
- Dry Bones
- City Tripper
- Slim tyres
- Paper Glider
1:40:32 Thanks for the tutorials Shortcat!
Troy implementing his training
1:05:40 Comet = Yoshi bike, Sport bike = Jet bike, Master Cycle = trash
oh and yoshi bike = teddy buggy but more i frames
Actually yoshi is same as teddy
Comet is same as cat cruiser so comet is the bike with more invincibility stat, meanign that the real meta should be daisy comet bike
It's funny seeing so many frames with identical stats ranked so far from their clones, haha. I guess that'll happen when you only get one race with each.
blue falcon in C tier is insane 😭
i know its not as good as the Wii U but its still a very solid vehicle, it should still be in A atleast, i just dont think it works well with mario
but im also biased, cuz ive loved it since the Wii U days and i usually use what i like and not whats meta lol
does anyone know why course names are different for different countries? for example in australia (where i live) rock rock mountain is called alpine pass and Neo bowser city is called koopa city, there are more that i can’t remember
1:03:45 did someone break the blueshell it just disappeared on the minimap
That bounce on Mushroom Gorge was something else
32:10 This vehicle is just the inkstriker with one extra invincibility stat
It definitely shouldn’t be a C tier, as inkstriker is kind of meta and sports coupe is just the same thing but slightly bigger hit box and one more invincibility stat.
This looks fun, I recently purchased a Nintendo switch it's really enjoyable, I have Mario kart 8 deluxe on it, love watching these videos, playing as funky Kong is really fun, 😁 thanks for the great content
Hey TWD98, are you doing well?
So excited to watch this, got my Nintendo switch last month and I got bcp yesterday so I’m very excited to play all new tracks, I just unlocked mr scooty and teddybuggy and I can’t decide what’s the better one. So excited to see your thoughts and opinions. Continue with your awesome content 🔥👏
Great video as usual! Playing on good combos is like night and day, speaking of which...
50:45 not realizing how many bad karts there are shows a big problem with the game imo. I know meta players don't care as long as the feeling and performance is good, and I agree from a mechanics perspective, but as a delusional LARPer, it feels REALLY bad that so many cool kart designs are so bad. Almost every single good kart is like child/toy/funny design, especially considering rollers are the best tires. Why can't actual racecars be good in a racing game :( if only speed mattered
The ups and downs of Mario kart (pun intended)
pipe frame is gonna be meta in the new mk game im calling it. It’s actually viable not risky at all for comp. Worth
1:06:37 Troy becoming a literal floundering fish.
I'd love to see you attempt this challenge again with tyres. Just keep the Standard Kart and Super Glider on, but change the tyres every race. I think it'd be interesting to see how they stack up against each other!
That'd be a poor test. The tires - and gliders for that matter - are a lot less in number compared to frames. Not to mention there's more grouping of stats in the tires and gliders, so more multitudes of tires and gliders have the same stats. The most you could base them on is bounciness for the monsters and cushion tires, and the gliders would be based on visibility of the road beneath you. That's it.
@@zainepittman653 I mean, testing the different frames is hardly scientific either. There are too many variables at play to effectively showcase which ones are objectively 'better'. At the end of the day, I still think it would be fun to test them out for some vehicle variety, especially since the wheels are still fairly significant. You're right that the gliders barely change anything, though.
coming back to your channel after nearly 4 years. good to be back :)
Great video Troy!
As a city tripper enjoyer, Im really glad it got something as good as A tier :)
29:09 you dont dodge the shock in the cannon?
not in this game
alt title: 2 hours of Troy insulting your favorite vehicles
1:43:20 Was this video recorded before the one with Shortcat?
I think master cycle zero is underrated not because its better than other vehicles but because it looks and feels good with azure rollers and Link and i really like the sound of the engine!
not gonna lie, sometimes I favour being a larger hitbox for the reason staying on the track and not falling is more manageable if u know how. I play multiple combos most the time, but main Koopa streetle cushion wheels.
@twd98 draft cancels mini turbo! That’s why you couldn’t pass the yoshi, he got his mini turbo boost and yours was cancelled when you drafted. Hold the mini turbo till the draft starts if you can.
I will always play with the Varmint, and you can not change my mind.
Can you redo your all characters 150 point challenge
its when (at about wave 3) you raced a race with every character and you aimed for as less points as possible. 1st=1 point 12th=12 points and so on . The goal was to do it under 150 points. Would be really nice to see because you have got so much better at MK8 Deluxe. Loved the VID.
1:34:50 I like Waluigi (as a character) and pinball games so, for me, Waluigi Pinball is the chosen one when given the option.
Holy Moly, Troy just released a movie
It would be cool to see a video where you go through wheels instead of frames. If you did do so I wonder what frame you would use! 🤔
Congrats on 500k
I loce how the Bone Rattler, the absolute worst vehicle in the game, has a higher ranking than the Mach 8, which shares stats with the inkstriker.
22:26 "I tried so hard and got so far, but in the eeeend it doesn't even matteeer"
23:42 is that my cousin Aaron?
@@Sidecar2024 I don’t know, is it?
@ maybe.
1:06:37
Gets the shock: OHHH
Loses the shock AHHH
About why is Yoshi Bike used instead of comet if they share stats: basically, the maneuvering with the Yoshi Bike is better (+ the hitbox of the comet is bigger than It shows)
I always wondered. Thanks for the info !
I do need to try the Yoshi bike. Avoided it till now as I only got the game recently, for fear I'd like inside drift better and lock myself out of many karts to use with friends.
@@MrT3a try It, its a rlly underrated frame
Honestly, my favorite combo to use is Mario with the Sports Bike + Roller Wheels + Cloud Glider. I like it way more than meta for specifically the fact that the Sports Bike has inside drift, and once you get used to it, the feeling is eerily similar to Funky Kong with the Flame Runner back in MKWii, so I suggest trying it out sometime if you’re wanting to try out inside drift.
Most underrated vehicle by far is the City Tripper. Same primary stats as Teddy and car cruiser. Different secondary stats. Absolutely S tier. It was good for a reason.
Never knew that I’ll have to try using it more!
What's up Troy I've been waching you for a long time thanks so much for all the content man❤
The Mach 8 getting c there is ridiculous it has the same speed/ mini turbo of the standard kart and the exact same stats as the inkstriker.
There are a lot of vehicles I didn't even know existed.
Most underrated vehicle is the Badwagon. I will not explain
6:33 Because that's the standard game design practice for every online game. If you get shot on someone else's screen in an FPS but the bullet doesn't hit you on yours, it hits you.
In this game, that's only true for trailing/rotating items though which is what makes it frustrating. If an item is thrown, you're hit based on whether or not it hit you on your own screen.
It's not a good game design for racing games like Mario Kart tho. A laggy player has an advantage when rotating/trailing items cuz their lag sometimes makes inaccurate predictions of where another player is on their screen... you can easily get hit by their items even when you're realistically nowhere near them because of this, and it's one of the most frustrating things ever.
1:41:18 Troy joins Nick on the soundboard
Mario getting more play time here than he’s ever gotten in the entire ten years of this game’s existence 😂
you should've used the shortcats from the shortcat video you made
also congrats on the +2K subs, only 3k more to goo
he did the one on Wii rainbow road!
idk if it would make that much of a difference, but you should make a tier list of all vehicle frames on 200cc. love the mario kart 8 content by the way! i missed these videos
The duke is super underrated. I never see anyone using it.
i’m taking a guess at troy’s username: TWD98 meaning T - Troy WD - last names or middle and last name and 98 - born in 1998
Nothing in E tier? Shocking. Normally, Troy would have something in E tier.
I wish this game handled frames like how CTR Nitro Fueled did
The only thing that mattered was the engine, both vehicle parts and driver was purely cosmetic. And MK8DX has a lot of cool frames that are pretty bad because of their stats.
Also being able to choose the color of vehicles (like the biddybuggy/pipe frame to give a example) could be a nice option (something like yoshi/birdo/shy guy colors)
when you were doing the pipe frame you honestly got mario karted
He did pretty well with the City Tripper, tho, and it shares the same stats, so it's ok.