Never forget, I was the first one to put Orthworm on the map with my hit Veluza PsyTerrain. They didn't even know who Orth was until my Orth got up Rocks, checked Chien, Tusk, Dnite and still Shed Tail passed each game into Scale Shot Moon and won every game. Some things never change.
Haha I remember back when Cyclizar was banned and everyone was saying that Orthworm being unplayable was the evidence that Shed Tail wasn't intrinsically broken. They got quiet really quick whenever Orthworm came in on D-Dance Terra normal DNite
@@jwppprin hindsight, imagine saying a pure steel type with skarmory’s bulk and water absorb for ground moves and sub+baton pass in one move wouldn’t be good
I think it's interesting with a lot of these mons that they might palatable stand alone but some factors push them over the edge. Annilape is alright on it's own but would be broken paired with Alo. Arch is ok on it's own, is broken on Rain. Bax is ok on it's own, is broken on Snow+Veil. Volc, Espathra, Regieleki, Terapagos ok on their own broken with Tera. Sneasler might even be average on it's own, is broken with Dire Claw. A lot of situationally broken mons this gen.
You guys forgot to consider Ape stallish-balance as an archetype Alo passing wishes wasn't a thing back then. You can just run some AV 4 Atks joint with CC Ice Punch Rage Fist and one last move of choice. Imagine just running it as a bulky figher and you already are very strong with Adamant max Attack and bulkier with AV and you get even stronger on getting hit you. It solves all of it's issue that mentioned, being bad into Gliscor, bad into HO, bad into mons that don't it etc. Ape is just fundamentally broken. It's stats are way too good that it can always adapt. Consider that it's already a decent mon with it's stats and typing which are extremely good. If it optimizes it's Rage Fist, it would always got on the path of being broken.
Blunder and the gang actually have the best videos on this platform. Nothing makes me laugh and smile more than these guys. I can't wait for the podcast to drop much love to you all
You are really sleeping on Solgaleo, bros. That man has higher raw bulk than NDM, one of the top defensive guys in Ubers. You take less from non-Super Effective moves than NDM. Also he is faster which does matter. You are also looking at him as a pure offensive mon. Look at him as a defensive guy with cracked ass stats. 137 base attack is strong as balls too. No investment Knock, Sunsteel, EQ, Morning Sun will still put on extremely pressure when you can't even pressuring it back much with immense bulk. Not saying he is better than NDM but keep in mind he is literally NDM lite and that is still beyond broken for OU.
Lugia not revieving knock off while everyone and their moms seems to have it. It is the main factor as to why i feel lugia would be balence in OU. If it could say run a set like knock off bolt/beam plus recover it wouls make for a really good fat mon that could beeat the common knock absorbers. Without a free click move like knock off or toxic that it cause use to force some amount of progress against most teams. Lugia users will often find that once their opponent figures out even a little information about your set then your cooked. Coming off of offensive stats like that, once your opponent knows what coverage you have and lack, lugia affectiveness greatly diminishes. The worse thing you can be in moden pokemon is a fat pokemon that doesnt do much to set your tram up for victory
I would like a metagame where evasion is allowed but not in conjunction with any other stat boosting moves or abilities. You either get to rely on extra coin flips, or you can build, not both.
I know it's a different tier, but Ubers UU is a good reference for how broken a mon is. There I've had success with Ape due to how broken Rage fist is, but Arch on the other hand doesn't exist. Granted that there are no good rain setters there
I wish they’d have unbanned Baton Pass a while ago. Wish passing would’ve been a dope ass niche for Mega Absol back in gen 6 & 7. Now it’s way too late for him to shine
is there any chance this humble 1400 could get the paste for the h zoroark team? h zoroark is my favorite mon and every team I build with it is ass 😢 there is one I built recently that felt good but it just gets 6-0d by lokix and iron moth
But Corvi is Shaymin's dad. Honestly though, Shaymin won't ever come back even if we get 4 Corvi-esque mons in OU because people just hate it too much.
@@spand9043 on average you’d be getting about the same amount of hits in as a skill link multihit move which was why the item was banned and the times you get luckier would be the cheapest shit ever
Terapagos-Stellar and Oger-Hearth’s tera form should be banned and have their base forms allowed, should be able to get away with it policy-wise since they’re form changes imo
unrelated but 4 ice guys in the beginning make me wish the ice hail buff was .75x to incoming super effective hits bc ice has so many weaknesses. 1.5x defense makes ice a cheese type with veil and chilly reception annoyance is just lame for a glass cannon type.
I don't understand the sleep ban, all the previous gens could be used, it's not something broken, just another resource, darkrai would be better with sleep but it wouldn't be broken either
Advocating for annihilape and lugia 💪 its crazy that primeape got a shiest evo jus to get banned and then not even rly used in ubers. Gotta give bro some time in modern day ou #FREEAPE
Unban Mewtwo. But ban all of its moves that are more than 60 BP. Then ban all forms of ability changing in the game so he can't cheese it with technician.
Breloom will kill a guy to get sleep unbanned
Breloom mangione gotta make a lil #visit to CEO finchinator to make some changes in the council …
@InsertFunnyThingHere Brelooms insurance company denied him poison heal
Breloom we going 286 em
sleep ban is completely unjust and an insult to the mushroom people and their lived experience
Palafin deserves to be unbanned but Lugia is a legendary fraud at this point, not even McDonalds can save him at this point
With breloom
Just put the Aeroblasts in the bag bro
Bro is doomed because of how dark and ghost get a buff every gen
Lugia will get the deo-d treatment. Falls straight to ru if not nu.
Doesn’t Kingambit eat it for lunch?
I can't give an opinion because the Base Lord isn't here.
He said on twitter that 'NO** complex bans' is outdated so there’s ur opinion boss 🙏🏾
He said complex bans should happen but the council is outdated no?
@@cctz_1outdated? Aren’t they only in Gen 5?
@@rincobaan6301 I meant no complex bans *** my fault i edited it now
I don't care if he's not in gen 9, we gotta test Genesect anyway for tradition's sake.
here for palafin and solgaleo
and naganadel
@@DACARBOSS.not even in the game…
@@FaliggetFTW and naganadel
We also need to talk about Palkia regular aka slower Walking Wake
You one hell of a scoundrel putting kings rock in here knowing how u mess with dat mouse
Everyone saying unban lugia needs to think about how they’re gonna react when they see a stall core of lugia, clod, dozo and gliscor
If we unban Arch, Bax, and Gouge at the same time, we could have weather wars back
*me releasing the boys outta Guantanamo Bay*
@@Dave_Chromepalafin, jesuspon, and chien pao/bundle: 👁️👄👁️
Free Reshiram
bro wants destruction
0:00:00 Intro
0:02:43 Annihilape
0:10:22 Archaludon
0:12:18 Baxcalibur
0:16:13 Iron Bundle // feat. Calyrex-Ice
0:23:18 Chien-Pao
0:26:25 Shed Tail
0:28:26 Giratina-O
0:32:29 Lugia
0:38:27 Ogerpon-Hearthflame
0:41:17 Palafin
0:41:55 Urshifu (Rapid-Strike)
0:44:38 Regieleki
0:47:40 Sneasler
0:51:37 Solgaleo
1:00:08 Terapagos
1:03:29 Volcarona
1:09:02 Zamazenta-Crowned
1:13:20 King's Rock
1:14:51 Baton Pass (dry pass)
1:16:07 Evasion Clause
1:17:36 OHKO Clause
1:17:44 Sleep
1:19:30 Conclusion
Never forget, I was the first one to put Orthworm on the map with my hit Veluza PsyTerrain.
They didn't even know who Orth was until my Orth got up Rocks, checked Chien, Tusk, Dnite and still Shed Tail passed each game into Scale Shot Moon and won every game. Some things never change.
Haha I remember back when Cyclizar was banned and everyone was saying that Orthworm being unplayable was the evidence that Shed Tail wasn't intrinsically broken. They got quiet really quick whenever Orthworm came in on D-Dance Terra normal DNite
Average goatkhan W
@@jwppprin hindsight, imagine saying a pure steel type with skarmory’s bulk and water absorb for ground moves and sub+baton pass in one move wouldn’t be good
I think it's interesting with a lot of these mons that they might palatable stand alone but some factors push them over the edge.
Annilape is alright on it's own but would be broken paired with Alo.
Arch is ok on it's own, is broken on Rain.
Bax is ok on it's own, is broken on Snow+Veil.
Volc, Espathra, Regieleki, Terapagos ok on their own broken with Tera.
Sneasler might even be average on it's own, is broken with Dire Claw. A lot of situationally broken mons this gen.
Didn’t even think of cheap ass alo wish spamming into ape and then farming rage fist boosts… shiddd
@@Thunderblunder777 then u bring that boy back with pawmot and ape also has that balenciaga scarf on naww 😭
Is sneasler fine with unburden? I thought that was why it got banned
@@Dragostorm21 sneasler even without unburden is still shiest it just outsped scarfers and booster guys
bax is ridiculous based on its insane stats paired with its moves, id argue it doesnt even need veil + snow, tera is all
Yo we need a CTC teams tier list video
Affirmative
@@Thunderblunder777 Lord CTC *
@@Thunderblunder777I am crying of joy rn
Never forget ‘Sucker for Jessica’ from gen 6(?)
28:48 The crash flinch merchant was UU cause a real crash flinch abuser was running the tier
The lugia hate is crazy, bro is sending stall to the moon
Bro is setup fodder for the best mon in OU
@@TheRaidantDXlugia devours gambit with tera
You guys forgot to consider Ape stallish-balance as an archetype
Alo passing wishes wasn't a thing back then. You can just run some AV 4 Atks joint with CC Ice Punch Rage Fist and one last move of choice.
Imagine just running it as a bulky figher and you already are very strong with Adamant max Attack and bulkier with AV and you get even stronger on getting hit you. It solves all of it's issue that mentioned, being bad into Gliscor, bad into HO, bad into mons that don't it etc.
Ape is just fundamentally broken. It's stats are way too good that it can always adapt. Consider that it's already a decent mon with it's stats and typing which are extremely good. If it optimizes it's Rage Fist, it would always got on the path of being broken.
There's also Healing Wish Hatt to give it another chance if it gets Burned, Paralyzed, or Badly Poisoned.
Blunder and the gang actually have the best videos on this platform. Nothing makes me laugh and smile more than these guys. I can't wait for the podcast to drop much love to you all
The fact calyrex ice is on this list is crazy
We need a video with joey suave and CTC to celebrate the return of the basedlord
No one ever mentions, but with zama crowned in the tier you can't tell on team preview which one it is which can definitely be annoying.
and kingambit is complete diks like even a 30% zama tanks sucker punch
Love discussion/tier list videos!!!
Blunder is truly on his tier list arc
genesect is ready to go LeBron
Flutter Mane is like if pokemon could terra twice.
You are really sleeping on Solgaleo, bros.
That man has higher raw bulk than NDM, one of the top defensive guys in Ubers. You take less from non-Super Effective moves than NDM. Also he is faster which does matter.
You are also looking at him as a pure offensive mon. Look at him as a defensive guy with cracked ass stats.
137 base attack is strong as balls too. No investment Knock, Sunsteel, EQ, Morning Sun will still put on extremely pressure when you can't even pressuring it back much with immense bulk.
Not saying he is better than NDM but keep in mind he is literally NDM lite and that is still beyond broken for OU.
I want Lugia to get unbanned
Lugia not revieving knock off while everyone and their moms seems to have it. It is the main factor as to why i feel lugia would be balence in OU.
If it could say run a set like knock off bolt/beam plus recover it wouls make for a really good fat mon that could beeat the common knock absorbers.
Without a free click move like knock off or toxic that it cause use to force some amount of progress against most teams.
Lugia users will often find that once their opponent figures out even a little information about your set then your cooked. Coming off of offensive stats like that, once your opponent knows what coverage you have and lack, lugia affectiveness greatly diminishes. The worse thing you can be in moden pokemon is a fat pokemon that doesnt do much to set your tram up for victory
Gliscor is Blunder’s boogeyman.
Can’t believe they didn’t realize how busted sceptile would be with shed tail… agency…
Pokemon doesn't revolve around a fake tier like Overused
Real agents watched the full 80 minutes in full focus without breaking eye contact with the screen
I would like a metagame where evasion is allowed but not in conjunction with any other stat boosting moves or abilities. You either get to rely on extra coin flips, or you can build, not both.
Shoutouts to lax, loved the scl predictions you, him emforbes, 3d fade and the others did.
Day two of predicting Palafin in UUBL soon after unban
I know it's a different tier, but Ubers UU is a good reference for how broken a mon is. There I've had success with Ape due to how broken Rage fist is, but Arch on the other hand doesn't exist. Granted that there are no good rain setters there
lugia with body slam psynoise might put in work
Holy shit, AGENCY DELIVERS! Now I can proceed to NOT send Meowscarada art to your PO box, and instead give you billions of hours of watch-time. 😍
FREE LUGIA AND SOLGALEO.
Free my man Reshiram he’s homeless and broke, Reshiram stocks are down
Goated idea
FREE IRON BUNDLE TILL ITS BACKWARDS
If Annihilape got poltergeist and no fist it would TOTALLY be OU just off of the crazy STAB combo tbh
I wish they’d have unbanned Baton Pass a while ago. Wish passing would’ve been a dope ass niche for Mega Absol back in gen 6 & 7. Now it’s way too late for him to shine
Love me some discussion videos from the boys, this shit is a 3 star michelin meal for me.
This list was how I learned volcarona was Uber. What the hell
Sun steel strike priority in sun 130BP gamefreak hates fun eternally
DUde did not just put Calyrex Ice Rider in the thumbnail lmfao
the lugia propaganda worked on me i think we should suspect test it
Agent Snaelstrom unlocked at 49:15
Lugia: Tankier Dragonite that does no damage and no Priority. 😂
Fuck it, remove the species and OHKO clauses. Let the meta burn.
Why not make vids of you battling your friends with one these mons unbanned to see how balanced they are
Ctc dodged long enough to avoid the blowback of making the cypher release late.
Release trapping abilities
ah i remember that time finchinator got swept by a cloyster and quickbanned kings rock 🤣
What’s with the legendaries infiltrating OU?
Power creep
My goat finally getting released from the studio
is there any chance this humble 1400 could get the paste for the h zoroark team? h zoroark is my favorite mon and every team I build with it is ass 😢 there is one I built recently that felt good but it just gets 6-0d by lokix and iron moth
Whoever suggested Giratina never looked at Ubers or Ubers UU
The didnt even include miraidon because he deseeves an own category
bro forgot solgaleo got morning sun
annihilape gets pieced up by both moltres and zapdos and has a bad matchup into valiant etc that shit is NOT a 3 he is 4 free
Alomomola wish
hes broken with support
HELL YEAH FREE SOLGALEO WOOOOO
-Delibird Heart
Free Reshiram!
Lugia is the biggest turd in Uber, it might not even be that great in OU with all the ice and dark stabs around.
we need to unban regular form deoxys trust!!!
Y’all ain’t ready for cb fimp blitz volc
Good video
nah kings rock is crazy work
all I'm saying is quick claw is as cheap as kings rock
Sol-gah-ley-oh
Skymin when?
I think even with the 60% flinch chance it could have been arguable. But the 80% spdef drop chance from seed flare is too cheap
But Corvi is Shaymin's dad.
Honestly though, Shaymin won't ever come back even if we get 4 Corvi-esque mons in OU because people just hate it too much.
@@togakhan1274corv switches into one seed flare and dies to Tera blast at-2 80% of the time 🙄
Solgaleo is literally metagross
WHERE IS CTC
Is this eeveeto's fuckin list lmao
Lugia is S tier
forgot to add kyurem white to the tierlist
Honestly though lugia would be a good idea but then I remembered boots are a thing.
Weak to knock off
W vid
Day 24 of asking for the L'agence Beanie Drop
Unban the Fire Moth
Unban Bax (I'm ass)
FREE ZACIAN HE AINT DO NOTHING WRONG
NO
Unban Reshiram smogon cowards
Kings rock population bomb ensuring that no one gets to play the game if you aren't ghost type.
you would have to run that shit in gravity though because otherwise you only hit a few times, no wide lens
>misses
@@spand9043 on average you’d be getting about the same amount of hits in as a skill link multihit move which was why the item was banned and the times you get luckier would be the cheapest shit ever
Free deoxys normal
Unban Lugia to RU
Unban everything and re do suspect tests
Nice
Terapagos-Stellar and Oger-Hearth’s tera form should be banned and have their base forms allowed, should be able to get away with it policy-wise since they’re form changes imo
unrelated but 4 ice guys in the beginning make me wish the ice hail buff was .75x to incoming super effective hits bc ice has so many weaknesses. 1.5x defense makes ice a cheese type with veil and chilly reception annoyance is just lame for a glass cannon type.
What about chi yu?
Free my boy zacian, he’s such a good boi and wouldn’t at all break OU
solgaleo would be like some deoxys defense x Zamazenta type joint
I don't understand the sleep ban, all the previous gens could be used, it's not something broken, just another resource, darkrai would be better with sleep but it wouldn't be broken either
Id freaking love to play Palafin and Lugia in OU. That'd go crazy and make the tier interesting...
I want the sun lion unbanned
Advocating for annihilape and lugia 💪 its crazy that primeape got a shiest evo jus to get banned and then not even rly used in ubers. Gotta give bro some time in modern day ou #FREEAPE
hes too broken with support, like healing wish, regular wish from alo, revival blessing etc
Solgaleo is the Goat i need him in OU fix the tier my king. He will be the death of HO
Why is Tera not on the list? So many of these mons are not threats without tera.
This is a video about unbans and Tera is not banned to begin with
@@Thunderblunder777 Good point. Kind of forgot after hearing about how every mon abuses Tera differently.
I’ve never understood why Ape is still banned. Bros ass
You ignore it, it gets stronger, you attack it, it gets stronger
Wish passer Alo and/or Hatt with Healing Wish are gonna be Ape's new best friends.
Blund too scared to put flutter mane on the list aka Jesus Christ when he came back after 3 days and became a ghost
Unban Mewtwo. But ban all of its moves that are more than 60 BP. Then ban all forms of ability changing in the game so he can't cheese it with technician.
Yappington