Yeah mate they just dont get it do they, they think this is a - every one switch into an EV, everyone get a heat pump... THEY DONT GIVE. A MONKEYS ABOUT BMW, VOLKSWAGEN, VAUXHALL GOING BUST. THIS IS A DEPOPULATION AGENDA. YOU ALL ROLLED UP YOUR SLEEVES FOUR YEARS AGO AND PUT THE WHEELS IN MOTION FOR THIS....AND EVEN NOW THEY ARE STILL SO BLOODY ASLEEP......
£50k plus 3 ton van , 100 miles range , with tools in and the heater off, battery dead in 6 years Yeah - nah vs £30k diesel van 600 mile range with full load and the stereo, heater & fog lights on, will keep trucking until it rots EV's are SECOND CARs SHORT HOP SHOPPING CARTS/URBAN COMMUTES ONLY for the foreseeable future Develop CHEAP green power and the Charging infrastructure FIRST
Electric Vans are not economically practical for the majority of business. Dictating to business will add to inflation and cause some business to close.
I see what you mean Barrie when governments get involved. Just been watching a video on the Rootes Group. They had to setup a factory in Scotland to create jobs up there. Good intentions. Engines where cast up there, then sent down to Coventry to be machined . Then shipped back up to Scotland to be put on to the cars. A big and expensive strain on logistics!
Unfortunately for Germany. The Chinese EV,s are a lot cheaper and German cars are not selling in China. The Chinese are now buying home made cars.. 60% of sales in china are EV,s...bad news for Europe
Said financing contributed to the price gouging and inflation until the reality of supply forces prices down, which is excellent news for most people. Who wouldn't want a sub-10,000 Hyundai Ioniq?
Barry, personal integrity is a very undervalued human quality. But I genuinely believe that facts will always overcome prejudice. Keep buggering on, if EVs do not fit UK drivers' lifestyles they will not take over from ICE vehicles. All we want is a level playing field. Let the customer decide.
Who chase after money? Actors! Professional liars! Those who will say anything they are paid to say! Any come to mind? Oh hope my phone is FullyCharged. Whenever you see an actor, remind yourself they tell lies for a living.
I've worked in a car factory for 30yrs and your absolutely right mate, the eu was responsible for diesel emissions scandal, they set limits that couldn't be met!
Most white vans never go more than 50 miles from base daily. Ideal EV territory. Charged overnight on a cheap tariff in the yard the economics are clear.
As a tradesman and van driver - can I just say bollocks. I would routinely travel over 50 mile round trips, fully loaded all year round. I couldn’t charge at home and - based on a colleague who has gone eVan, there are no benefits whatsoever. What’s to like?
@@simplyr62 You can talk bollocks as much as you want. lol. But I didn't mention you and your work schedule anyway. If your work is happy to see you driving most of your working hours and not actually working that's OK. And if you can't charge at home then that wasn't what I said either. Read my comment again. I suggested that most white van days are within a 50 mile radius and if - IF - they can charge at home or work overnight then the economics work out well.
Talking with people who use vans - and have tried EV versions - electric vans do not have sufficient range. 50 miles radius is 100 miles there and back, plus delays and traffic. If the weather is cold the range reduces. If the heater is used the range is reduced. In addition, the Electric vans have been unreliable and have needed numerous fixes. However you try to promote an EV, the real world soon crushes the delight of the high torque acceleration. The batteries are the weakest link, and there is no ‘fix’ for the physical limits of electrical chemistry.
BYD’s battery supplier CATL just released a battery with a 1.5 million kilometre warranty. In the long term economics will beat old men’s bluster. All they wanted was a faster horse.
I was once told if you ever wanted to completely stuff something up just get a politician involved. That politician is Ed Miliband.
People really don't get it.... the powers that be don't want you travelling, they want you in your 15 minute prison...
Yeah mate they just dont get it do they, they think this is a - every one switch into an EV, everyone get a heat pump... THEY DONT GIVE. A MONKEYS ABOUT BMW, VOLKSWAGEN, VAUXHALL GOING BUST. THIS IS A DEPOPULATION AGENDA. YOU ALL ROLLED UP YOUR SLEEVES FOUR YEARS AGO AND PUT THE WHEELS IN MOTION FOR THIS....AND EVEN NOW THEY ARE STILL SO BLOODY ASLEEP......
£50k plus 3 ton van , 100 miles range , with tools in and the heater off, battery dead in 6 years
Yeah - nah
vs £30k diesel van 600 mile range with full load and the stereo, heater & fog lights on, will keep trucking until it rots
EV's are SECOND CARs SHORT HOP SHOPPING CARTS/URBAN COMMUTES ONLY for the foreseeable future
Develop CHEAP green power and the Charging infrastructure FIRST
You won't get cheap 'green' energy from wind farms or solar. Pie in the sky from these government or NGO people.
If the battery was dead in 6yrs the warranty would replace it. You need to extend your belief of how long the battery lasts.
Electric Vans are not economically practical for the majority of business. Dictating to business will add to inflation and cause some business to close.
I see what you mean Barrie when governments get involved.
Just been watching a video on the Rootes Group.
They had to setup a factory in Scotland to create jobs up there. Good intentions.
Engines where cast up there, then sent down to Coventry to be machined .
Then shipped back up to Scotland to be put on to the cars.
A big and expensive strain on logistics!
blimey
Thousands of EVs unsold stacking up here in Germany. Nobody wants them, their rubbish!!!!🏴🇬🇧😎👍🍀
They’re rubbish-not their rubbish. Jesus what kind of education did you have?
2 million 2024 diesel and petrol vehicles worldwide looking for buyers
@@mikeandhev Probably a german one ?
Unfortunately for Germany. The Chinese EV,s are a lot cheaper and German cars are not selling in China. The Chinese are now buying home made cars.. 60% of sales in china are EV,s...bad news for Europe
I heard that its getting harder to finance secondhand EV's due to the sharp fall in their value over the finance contract.
Said financing contributed to the price gouging and inflation until the reality of supply forces prices down, which is excellent news for most people.
Who wouldn't want a sub-10,000 Hyundai Ioniq?
insurance is a problem as well I heard due to how easily they are written off
@@Withnail1969 I priced up a Renault zoe ev and it was 3 times the price of my Ford Galaxy
@@Withnail1969 That's true Ins groups 45 to 50 isn't unusual for EVs..
@@welsh-alan My insurance on a Tesla M3 performance is £530 for the year that has supercar performance.
Barry, personal integrity is a very undervalued human quality. But I genuinely believe that facts will always overcome prejudice. Keep buggering on, if EVs do not fit UK drivers' lifestyles they will not take over from ICE vehicles. All we want is a level playing field. Let the customer decide.
If people weren't coming out with shite about EV's maybe we would have a level playing field?
Made me get a brandy now
Salute
The crazy thing is he filmed this at breakfast.
its opening time somewhere in the world, am i right?
80% of vans were exports. It had little to do with sales in Uk..
oh dear, RV sales are worse abroad than they are here, it was everything to do with them
Pour one out for the sensible eNV200
And Bosch
Take the jab? No? Nevermind they'll try to take you out with an EV!
You didn't have your MMR?
now the milk
@ No! Develop, test and manufacture within twelve months? They must think we are all stupid! Well!
The factory will probably be taken over by one of the incredibly successful Chinese companies .
Don't disable your dislikes bro. Be brave. Majority of us agree with you anyway.
bro i think youtube have stopped doing dislikes, they don't show publicly, i can see them and you are right the majority (vast) agree with me
Who chase after money? Actors! Professional liars! Those who will say anything they are paid to say! Any come to mind? Oh hope my phone is FullyCharged. Whenever you see an actor, remind yourself they tell lies for a living.
Perfidious Albion
I've worked in a car factory for 30yrs and your absolutely right mate, the eu was responsible for diesel emissions scandal, they set limits that couldn't be met!
Every European mass market car manufacturer will go out of business within 10 years
Most white vans never go more than 50 miles from base daily. Ideal EV territory. Charged overnight on a cheap tariff in the yard the economics are clear.
As a tradesman and van driver - can I just say bollocks. I would routinely travel over 50 mile round trips, fully loaded all year round. I couldn’t charge at home and - based on a colleague who has gone eVan, there are no benefits whatsoever. What’s to like?
What are you taken ?? whatever if is I want some.
@@simplyr62 You can talk bollocks as much as you want. lol. But I didn't mention you and your work schedule anyway. If your work is happy to see you driving most of your working hours and not actually working that's OK. And if you can't charge at home then that wasn't what I said either. Read my comment again. I suggested that most white van days are within a 50 mile radius and if - IF - they can charge at home or work overnight then the economics work out well.
Talking with people who use vans - and have tried EV versions - electric vans do not have sufficient range. 50 miles radius is 100 miles there and back, plus delays and traffic. If the weather is cold the range reduces. If the heater is used the range is reduced. In addition, the Electric vans have been unreliable and have needed numerous fixes. However you try to promote an EV, the real world soon crushes the delight of the high torque acceleration. The batteries are the weakest link, and there is no ‘fix’ for the physical limits of electrical chemistry.
BYD’s battery supplier CATL just released a battery with a 1.5 million kilometre warranty. In the long term economics will beat old men’s bluster. All they wanted was a faster horse.
Is this BYD that is going bust due to cessation of CCP subsidies ?
This is nothing to do with electric anything it is another Brexit "benefit".
Germany didn't do Brexit and its car industry is on its ar$e, so stop talking bollox!
Close the plant. Why produce things people don't want.