For those unfamiliar with Combat mission, it's not about fancy base building mechanics or capturing supply points to buy new units. It's the most intensely coded strategy game to date. Each individual soldier has a skill and experience level, which effects how they relay information between their team and up to higher command. It's very detailed to the smallest thing
yeah i understand that too. I got final blitzkrieg off their website and dont get me wrong. theres ALOT going on in game but that price tag is a little... Idk
The price is the way for them to continue to work and dev games. Because this is not a AAA game, no ads, no marketing. Just few people buying it. I dont think sell it -50% whole time will increase so much sell. It worked for me, but we are just a bunch of guys playing thoses kind of RTS anyway.
@@Tbone10349 You're buying the game, but as a bonus you are also buying into the community that if you choose to answer it and provide great fun head-to-head games and you can yik yak with friendly same-minded folks on discord and battlefront and matrix.
To hear the Hapless style from a different person sounds uncanny 😄Great to see this on your channel, hope you do more videos with more serious games like this
Love to see edited CM videos. It's a great game, both playing and watching, but when it comes to watching it's a bit slow unless edited down like this.
Man I do WISH for a graphics overhaul, or even more FPS, right now the games kinda look.. old AND run somewhat bad BUT it's the only game that does what this does
@@theShermanator this game reminds me ALOT of graviteam tactics, WW2 SP game that has many features like this game, radio communications, AI technically does their own thinking. huge scale maps. Pretty in-depth realistic shell penetration system. It's pretty fun to play and just zone out into the battles. It looks a tad dated, but it looks extremely better than combat mission
I bought Combat Misson in 2000 in a shop in Germany with a booklet inside. It´s a great game, the movie sequences are always fun to watch, you move the camera down on your Pak, grab a snack and press play :) The Play by Email is so slow but you meet new people and have a small conversation along with the mails.
The original games Operation Barbarossa and Afrika Korps had randomised maps which would be computer generated before each game. It was like playing tabletop game with no map being the same as the last. In the moderne ones now they just have like 10 maps that at best gets randomised betweem those maps and does not create brand new maps. It always puzzled me why they got rid of that option?
I think random maps generations would melt our GPUs. I'm an experienced CM map maker and this infuriates me to no end :) I miss the good ole modded CMAK
The thing I heard was it has to do with AI. It became predictable and less challenging. Or at least I thought I read that somewhere. Miss the old graphics and random map. Maybe for some epically huge battles.
The engine is actually perfect. We are just used to high graphic games, but that gives many limitation to game creators. It's not as easy to modify a game who is Ultra HD, the map designs that are high quality cost a ton of money to create, and also will eat your FPS, so they are small, or have alot of crap to optimize it and eventually it looks bad and you have poor fps and the game isnt good because editing it is a pain due to this. With this kind of games, making the game fun is much more easier for devs, something we dont see nowdays due to this problem,. people wanting better graphics has turned the gaming industry to not so fun games.
@@biassicalabria3055 Alot of people complain about it, obviously they will change it and make it look like they enjoy the change. But in reality it's not something that good. Games tend to deteriorate with engine improvements, which makes no sense, taht should be better. it should make the game better. But it makes it more difficult for devs to keep the "FUN". I just hope the engine update dosent ruin the game.
Love these games. The only thing I don't like is the time limits, otherwise I would play them much more. So many missions I've failed because I was just a few minutes short.
Wow these guys that are talking crap about combat mission must not know anything about the game. Now this is proper real time strategy! Keep the videos coming! Combat mission is sooooo good, it puts the S in RTS. Don't they use it to teach real soldiers about combined arms warfare?
They just aren't really trying to do the same things, like at all, other than that they all are WW2 games (or at least this CM is) and that they are I guess both RTS games) - hell I played this like a TBS game even, in their WEGO system
They are just lucky to be alone on the market, not updating anything for +10 years, releasing new games without big new features just for new models and reskins at 100€ with dlc is pretty lame. Thanks god Graviteam is growing and is already better
@@mastercheif878 Men of War and Gates of Hell are arcade strategy games, Combat Mission games are Simulators used by real life militaries to simulate engagements. You cant even comapre the two but if you could MoW are bicycles and CM are ferrari's
@@bencurran3204 They are only similar in that you can command company to battalion strength forces in tactical combat. The gameplay and mechanics differ greatly to the point they are not really comparable. Another point is that Graviteam lacks any scenarios after 1943 and the only one of their games that is still supported only covers the Eastern Front. Combat Mission covers three, four if you want to count the battle of the bulge as separate. Multiplayer is another consideration as well.
@Porter Poteet graviteam lacks scenarios late war, but goes to do more unique conflicts than combat mission in the cold war, its combat system is much better, its not comparable because combat missions just lacks things in comparison, multiplayer is something that'd be cool but not something necessarily making it better than graviteam
I think you did very well considering how disproportionate the casualty rates were, you were pretty much trading a man for a man, which as we all know will always benefit the side with more men.
I just kept getting more men, however most of them were absolutely dogwater level trained with just a Kar 98, the Brits and Poles had high levels of training and equipment perfectly suited for this combat, I think I got lucky with my MG placement mostly
@@theShermanator It was a company sized unit fighting a near peer battalion sized unit in a meeting engagement, if the allies had a prepared defense they definitely could've won, but quantity having a quality all it's own is a phrase that rings specially true in situations like these. Yeah they're superior in training and equipment but they're not desert storm superior.
Me taking this way too seriously: “ You gotta get off that damn bridge and stop running while not moving. This aint the time for the cabbage patch son this is war!”
I like Combat Mission, play it in 2000s. But now I can't play it in my modern PC, the framerate is unstable. I have i5 8500, GTX 1070, really hard to reach 60fps.
@@theShermanator it would be nice xD ... i for myself got the first three (Battle of Normandy, Operation Barbarossa Moscau to berlin and North Africa ... but from gog :D)
@@sirfanatical8763 The game is playable in turn based mode because it’s the only way that allows the player to make every micro decision of every unit in short periods of time. Real-time just creates situations where the player is forced to rely on a near non-existent AI to control the bulk of their units while their attention is focused on babysitting individual squads or vehicles. You can play it in real time, just be prepared for your units dying in really stupid ways.
Yeah, but as you can see, it's now on Steam - I have been playing CM Normandy for a longer time and definitely some of the other CM games: I have linked my CM playlists :))
Battlefront feels like a scam these days ngl. Same old engine used and all that, a 50 Euro game and another 50 for the dlcs. Ostfront just feels better and costs less.
Hey I totally feel you when it comes to the engine stuff -- if BF had any competition I'm sure they'd be forced to upgrade, but yeah.. Gates of Hell and this game are however SO FAR apart in what they attempt to do imo, that it's really not fair to compare them at all. Like Call of Duty vs Escape from Tarkov levels of different
@@theShermanator while they are very different in terms of mechanics they are boy going for a similar end goal of realistic simulation of ww2 combat... imagine BF in unreal engine 4 with proper physics and animations with a strategic campaign.. it could be made really cinematic due to not having to deal with real time actions.. as it is the concept looks great and the combat reminds me of the old close combat games but the price is just to much for the product
It’s a damn good WW2 game. For those unaware, I highly recommend Gates of Hell Ostfront and it’s DLC. While it only covers the Eastern Front as of now, it’s up there with the best WW2 games ever made.
@@Salsa_Dip Graviteam is really only similar in that you command company to battalion size forces in combat. The two are vastly different from each other mechanically and gameplay wise.
@@porterpoteet than why do people consider it a combat mission competitor? I think mius front does what combat mission does in a simpler format so you can go into the battles you love. I wi give you the point that combat mission has intricate squad level commanding, but you really can't tell me that all of the actions you can tell a squad to do is necessary. I also don't like micromanaging troops like you typically do in combat mission (yes, even in WeGo) and would rather tell a regiment of infantry with platoons and squad within those platoons to move somewhere with the click of a button. I also think mius fronts AI is superior. In combat mission my units run into enemy machine guns and all die where as in mius front my units will notice one of theres died to a machine gun nest and begin to slow crawl or even pop smokes.
@@Salsa_Dip I assume some people consider them “competitors” because there are so few games on the market that can compare to either of the two. Put simply, they are the closest titles to each other in war gaming as a whole. They seem quite similar when compared to say, a 4x game or the like. In regard to commands, I can say I have used all of them in my time playing the game, sometimes wishing I had more to be honest. More options is better in my book. I also value the diverse theaters and multiplayer functionality CM offers, which is totally absent from Graviteam. I play both, and I like both, but I can’t see it as fair to say both are comparable and one is clearly better. You are entitled to your opinion and preferences of course.
I'm sorry, but however detailed and "realistic" this game series may be it's still clunky and hard to get into. At $50 per game, that means I've never had any interest in any game from the Combat Mission series
The game is twelve years old, and is priced so the developers can continue making more games and keep them all unilaterally updated and supported. It’s unfortunate you won’t consider the game as it is a unique experience from anything else you could play. To each their own.
@@porterpoteet Sure, but the engine/tech was at least 10 years old when it was first released 12 years ago, not to mention the antiquated UI and gameplay. You had to literally edit text files in the game directory to change key bindings.
@@porterpoteet I'm still not paying 50$ for a 20 year old game. I don't care if it's the greatest thing since Halo 2. that's ridiculously expensive for what it is.
@@aidanacebo9529 graphics really aren’t the thing that you should focus on if you play a combat mission game. It’s about the amazing realism of the game. I get your point though 50 bucks is expensive
@@MRBasgames I'm the dude who plays a game from 2007 on a daily basis. I don't care about graphics. I'm not paying more than 15$ for a 20 year old game.
@@Archibald1705 i mean i play old game like this to but Like American civil war , i download it for free in 2010 so im familiar with this game to but this game cant beat MOW
Some strange comments on the ARR post. It seems CM IMHO is not a game suited for a lot of the Steam audience. It's more about the strategy not the eye candy. Closer to ASL board game then a fps. Never really understood the negativity thing, just seems such a waste of what little time one has here. Most of the time ones opinion is just that. You like it or you don't, and life goes on, with or without you. As a great man once said "Why don't you knock it off them negative waves".
@@theShermanator i just bought it. its my first ww2 title in the series only play BS and sf2 before. downloading now. Would love to see more CM content,hlp bring this beautiful RTS sim to the masses,most get turned off by screenshots of a game that looks sub par,they miss out on the depth of these titles
I deleted my original comment because it was too harsh and I only trash talked this game. if there are strategy features that you can only get here and if you like it so be it I still play the late 90s C&C games because nothing else is like them.
I really wanna try this game, but holy crap does it look dated. It just looks like a buggy mess with 20 year old graphics. I mean the soldiers look like their running on a treadmill. You mean to tell me that after 15 years they couldn't improve upon it at all? And they want 60 bucks?
@@theShermanator Thats the hope at least, looks like a fun game, however, I probably won't be good at it, as I am not good at combat mission SF2, however I will have fun not being good because I like WWII, lol.
@@TumbleTrashOfficial CM:BN is probably the easiest game out of them all, as the ranges are shorter for vehicles and AT, the hedgerows make dividing the map into strategic areas of approach easier, and the generally slower pace makes it more forgiving.
and thats just for the base game lmao , just buy graviteam and get everything combat mission offers you but better (with some minor exceptions) and more importantly cheaper which is hilarious cause mius front is from 2016 and this game is from 2011 but it somehow costs more
graviteam is better than this in pretty much every possible regard , even price lol , the only things this game has over graviteam is reloading animations for infantry (cant remember ever seeing infantry reload in graviteam but it might just be me) and the game is a bit easier to understand than graviteam due to smaller scale , while graviteam has you work on the operational level yourself , and yes while graviteam doesnt have multiplayers its more or less irrelevant cause most people play singleplayer anyway , not saying that combat mission is a bad game but come on now lets not be silly
yes the ui is bad in all graviteam games but still doesnt change the fact that their games are deeper and more grand than combat mission and they somehow costs less , and the multiplayer aspect in pretty much every strategy game is much much smaller than the amount of people who play singleplayer , multiplayer seems huge simply because its more fun to watch than singleplayer , as ive said lets not be silly
what you're not getting in cm is that the numbers being crunched and the results of said crunching are drawn from real-life data and more simulation than game. no other game is as researched or developed for historical accuracy and realism, period. thats why the uk m.o.d., australia and n.z., and the us marines are using the pro edition for leadership and logistics training. if your looking for a consumer tactical simulator this is really the only choice out there.
and i can get the base graviteam tactics mius front for 31 euros and like what 2 dlcs for the 60 euros that i would otherwise pay the base game of combat mission
Honestly, I think a lot of older people play CM games, turn based allows you to take hours, days, weeks to give orders to your units - so basically you can take your time haha
@@theShermanator Depth or not, it looks like crap. How can these "arcane" looking games still sell? No wonder all always get worse, quality wise. Like these MMA games for PC, just the same. Idiocies like WWE then, get superb quality. Baffling.
Well, the issue is there is ZERO competition, the devs of Combat Mission games have 0 need/interest in making their stuff look better or run better because well, nobody is attempting to even do anything remotely close to it so yeah.. its Combat Mission or nothing, the devs know this, and thats why its barely changed I think
For those unfamiliar with Combat mission, it's not about fancy base building mechanics or capturing supply points to buy new units. It's the most intensely coded strategy game to date. Each individual soldier has a skill and experience level, which effects how they relay information between their team and up to higher command. It's very detailed to the smallest thing
and it looks like absolute garbage
@@nyverdaletabletop1674
*Looks don't emulate gameplay.*
@@SCP--fj2jr the engine is so old and terrible though
@@nyverdaletabletop1674 That's a feature, not a bug ;)
@@nyverdaletabletop1674 still better than anything you did in this whole shit you call your life
Not sure how I feel about the fact that they are charging $60 for a game that originally came out 12 years ago.
Try CTA Ostfront
yeah i understand that too. I got final blitzkrieg off their website and dont get me wrong. theres ALOT going on in game but that price tag is a little... Idk
Big sale right now until Dec. 5th. A chunk of them are available for about around $30 or so.
The price is the way for them to continue to work and dev games. Because this is not a AAA game, no ads, no marketing. Just few people buying it. I dont think sell it -50% whole time will increase so much sell. It worked for me, but we are just a bunch of guys playing thoses kind of RTS anyway.
@@Tbone10349 You're buying the game, but as a bonus you are also buying into the community that if you choose to answer it and provide great fun head-to-head games and you can yik yak with friendly same-minded folks on discord and battlefront and matrix.
To hear the Hapless style from a different person sounds uncanny 😄Great to see this on your channel, hope you do more videos with more serious games like this
Cheers!
16:54 "They can't kill us all" - Sherm.
ZERG RUSH - FOR THE FATHERLAND!
I think I got myself a new editor battle simulator. Thanks for the video.
Cheers bud!
Its videos like this that make me wish CM was more accessible for modding, could you imagine a Combat Mission game based in Angola, or South America?
That would be cool for sure
Love to see edited CM videos. It's a great game, both playing and watching, but when it comes to watching it's a bit slow unless edited down like this.
Appreciate ya!
i played this game a few years back and it was great but I wish they did a graphics overrall before putting it on steam. I think $50 is alot of money
Man I do WISH for a graphics overhaul, or even more FPS, right now the games kinda look.. old AND run somewhat bad BUT it's the only game that does what this does
@@theShermanator this game reminds me ALOT of graviteam tactics, WW2 SP game that has many features like this game, radio communications, AI technically does their own thinking. huge scale maps. Pretty in-depth realistic shell penetration system. It's pretty fun to play and just zone out into the battles. It looks a tad dated, but it looks extremely better than combat mission
@@theShermanator yea i feel you. I just wish they put more time into rereleasing it with a better engine so its worth the $50
@@theShermanator shadows off. texture quality max model quality faster and shaders off...balance with reshade it will look great,and good fps
You can pirate it now that it's on steam though
I bought Combat Misson in 2000 in a shop in Germany with a booklet inside. It´s a great game, the movie sequences are always fun to watch, you move the camera down on your Pak, grab a snack and press play :) The Play by Email is so slow but you meet new people and have a small conversation along with the mails.
The original games Operation Barbarossa and Afrika Korps had randomised maps which would be computer generated before each game. It was like playing tabletop game with no map being the same as the last. In the moderne ones now they just have like 10 maps that at best gets randomised betweem those maps and does not create brand new maps. It always puzzled me why they got rid of that option?
Oh IDK that sounds really cool
I think random maps generations would melt our GPUs. I'm an experienced CM map maker and this infuriates me to no end :) I miss the good ole modded CMAK
The thing I heard was it has to do with AI. It became predictable and less challenging. Or at least I thought I read that somewhere. Miss the old graphics and random map. Maybe for some epically huge battles.
They need to update the engine for all combat mission games. Think the technology there for them to use it
The engine is actually perfect. We are just used to high graphic games, but that gives many limitation to game creators. It's not as easy to modify a game who is Ultra HD, the map designs that are high quality cost a ton of money to create, and also will eat your FPS, so they are small, or have alot of crap to optimize it and eventually it looks bad and you have poor fps and the game isnt good because editing it is a pain due to this.
With this kind of games, making the game fun is much more easier for devs, something we dont see nowdays due to this problem,. people wanting better graphics has turned the gaming industry to not so fun games.
@@c_apacity they even stated it outdated and working on a new version or different engine so say what you want about that.
@@biassicalabria3055 Alot of people complain about it, obviously they will change it and make it look like they enjoy the change. But in reality it's not something that good. Games tend to deteriorate with engine improvements, which makes no sense, taht should be better. it should make the game better. But it makes it more difficult for devs to keep the "FUN". I just hope the engine update dosent ruin the game.
Love these games. The only thing I don't like is the time limits, otherwise I would play them much more. So many missions I've failed because I was just a few minutes short.
Ah that sucks :/ great games tho
Wow these guys that are talking crap about combat mission must not know anything about the game. Now this is proper real time strategy! Keep the videos coming! Combat mission is sooooo good, it puts the S in RTS. Don't they use it to teach real soldiers about combined arms warfare?
Nah mowas and gates of hell ostfront is far superior
They just aren't really trying to do the same things, like at all, other than that they all are WW2 games (or at least this CM is) and that they are I guess both RTS games) - hell I played this like a TBS game even, in their WEGO system
They are just lucky to be alone on the market, not updating anything for +10 years, releasing new games without big new features just for new models and reskins at 100€ with dlc is pretty lame. Thanks god Graviteam is growing and is already better
@@mastercheif878 Men of War and Gates of Hell are arcade strategy games, Combat Mission games are Simulators used by real life militaries to simulate engagements. You cant even comapre the two but if you could MoW are bicycles and CM are ferrari's
Graviteam doesn't have multiplayer, I literally couldn't have done what I did in this video, which is play against a human opponent though?
Combat mission,wargame,steel division,armored brigade,graviteam tactics are up there with total war as unique strategy games.
for sure
Next Video about Graviteam Tactics ? :)
i think this is the competitor of combat mission ^^
(Please more Combat mission in the future)
Hey, I actually wrote about GT T in the description :D
combat mission is good, but graviteam is superior in every way tbh
@@bencurran3204 yeah it just seems to run so so much better and the animations etc are way more fluid
@@bencurran3204 They are only similar in that you can command company to battalion strength forces in tactical combat. The gameplay and mechanics differ greatly to the point they are not really comparable. Another point is that Graviteam lacks any scenarios after 1943 and the only one of their games that is still supported only covers the Eastern Front. Combat Mission covers three, four if you want to count the battle of the bulge as separate. Multiplayer is another consideration as well.
@Porter Poteet graviteam lacks scenarios late war, but goes to do more unique conflicts than combat mission in the cold war, its combat system is much better, its not comparable because combat missions just lacks things in comparison, multiplayer is something that'd be cool but not something necessarily making it better than graviteam
played this game for years and still feel like a noob.
hard! especially in turn base mode.
its definitely hard, but very rewarding
Glad to see it on steam but i wish they update core engine just for performance , i wish they work with AMD to fix bug white flash
I feel ya
Are those Kriegsmarine uniforms a mod? Or did they finally add those to the base game?
its a mod
Please, as many Multiplayer games in this style as possible!
Oh idk how many I can do haha
I think you did very well considering how disproportionate the casualty rates were, you were pretty much trading a man for a man, which as we all know will always benefit the side with more men.
I just kept getting more men, however most of them were absolutely dogwater level trained with just a Kar 98, the Brits and Poles had high levels of training and equipment perfectly suited for this combat, I think I got lucky with my MG placement mostly
@@theShermanator It was a company sized unit fighting a near peer battalion sized unit in a meeting engagement, if the allies had a prepared defense they definitely could've won, but quantity having a quality all it's own is a phrase that rings specially true in situations like these. Yeah they're superior in training and equipment but they're not desert storm superior.
Me taking this way too seriously: “ You gotta get off that damn bridge and stop running while not moving. This aint the time for the cabbage patch son this is war!”
Lmao
I like Combat Mission, play it in 2000s. But now I can't play it in my modern PC, the framerate is unstable. I have i5 8500, GTX 1070, really hard to reach 60fps.
@@Franzkrooziek i agree, need a new game and/or new engine
Hi Sherman hi All, i am very happy for that , for me combat mission is the best sim..tky for the video
My pleasure!
Still play cmbo, cmbb, and cmak. Love these games.
🙏
Sherman ... you costing me a lot of money ..... keep up the good work :D
lmao sorry mate and cheers!
CTA Ostfront seems to be the more modern version of this Game and it isnt as expensive as Combat Mission
but GoH is in no form or shame a simulator the way this is, this game can also host entire companies worth of units, something GoH doesnt do
Dayum.... Is this HnG 2 : The NExt War ?!? Looks Dope, almost like Original graphics
ha lmao
This is the type of games that doesn't have the best graphics but let's you do so many things
oh yeah!
omg. after well over a decade of promises. they actually did it!
haha IKR
A True Sim RTS WW 2 Game. It would help if it has a point base Logistic/Supply System.
agreed
Ok I‘m intrigued but what exactly am I watching?
You do an initial setup and then it simulates a whole battle or how does it work?
It’s a real time strategy game. You can also play turn-based if you want.
Oh nice, just like Hapless’ videos
Sherm, you should try Graviteam tactics, it feels like this a bit
Combat Mission is GEM
as in it's a GEM? I agree :D
How does multiplayer work? Does it still work by sending files via email?
Yes, hilariously enough.
@@molotovb haha it's a no from me.
Would you consider playing the live mode?
like the Real Time? I think there are games that do that way better tbh
Do you think fortress italy is also gonna be there in the future?
Eventually in 2030 :D
@@theShermanator it would be nice xD ... i for myself got the first three (Battle of Normandy, Operation Barbarossa Moscau to berlin and North Africa ... but from gog :D)
Best WW2 sim's already been out on steam for a while - it's called Graviteam Tactics
Let me know how the PvP is in that.. oh right
@@theShermanator Don't care about MP. I just enjoy playing something that's not made on a janky, buggy, laggy engine from the last century.
I played a bit of GT Operation Star, and the UI feels there just as archaic as this game tbh
Where's the difference between the old and new version?
Very, very little. They literally require an additional $20 purchase for basic game updates.
@@molotovb not even real time?
@@sirfanatical8763 The game is playable in turn based mode because it’s the only way that allows the player to make every micro decision of every unit in short periods of time.
Real-time just creates situations where the player is forced to rely on a near non-existent AI to control the bulk of their units while their attention is focused on babysitting individual squads or vehicles.
You can play it in real time, just be prepared for your units dying in really stupid ways.
@@molotovb Thanks and ye I am prepared
This game has been around for along time warfare gaming made a video about it
Yeah, but as you can see, it's now on Steam - I have been playing CM Normandy for a longer time and definitely some of the other CM games: I have linked my CM playlists :))
Battlefront feels like a scam these days ngl. Same old engine used and all that, a 50 Euro game and another 50 for the dlcs. Ostfront just feels better and costs less.
Hey I totally feel you when it comes to the engine stuff -- if BF had any competition I'm sure they'd be forced to upgrade, but yeah..
Gates of Hell and this game are however SO FAR apart in what they attempt to do imo, that it's really not fair to compare them at all.
Like Call of Duty vs Escape from Tarkov levels of different
@@theShermanator while they are very different in terms of mechanics they are boy going for a similar end goal of realistic simulation of ww2 combat... imagine BF in unreal engine 4 with proper physics and animations with a strategic campaign.. it could be made really cinematic due to not having to deal with real time actions.. as it is the concept looks great and the combat reminds me of the old close combat games but the price is just to much for the product
@@theShermanator What about graviteam tactics mius front? Cheaper and Realistic
@@sergeyavanesov924 GTT doesnt have multiplayer
@@theShermanator i really wonder how that'd play with mp, i think it'd be quite a good games night sort of thing to do over the course of a few weeks
Love this game 🙂
me too man.
It’s a damn good WW2 game. For those unaware, I highly recommend Gates of Hell Ostfront and it’s DLC. While it only covers the Eastern Front as of now, it’s up there with the best WW2 games ever made.
Right, but GoH is definitely nota simulator
you forgot to say this entire companys game each is about 60aud
You can find that out in 5 seconds, besides the price is always in flux with sales
If you like deep simulator games its worth it
yeah but the base price sales arent 24/7 and its pretty much copy paste games with minor changes
If you could steal or take enemy equipment it would be realistic and your squad could get better
I know you can take friendly equipment, not sure about enemy
14:13 John Wayne
lmao
Fortress Italy is the one for me and Red Thunder
I havent tried either yet, I hope to soon when they get to be on Steam
$50? Hell no. Any similar games you recommend that are cheaper or better quality at same price?
Graviteam Tactics 😈😈
@@Salsa_Dip Graviteam is really only similar in that you command company to battalion size forces in combat. The two are vastly different from each other mechanically and gameplay wise.
@@porterpoteet than why do people consider it a combat mission competitor? I think mius front does what combat mission does in a simpler format so you can go into the battles you love. I wi give you the point that combat mission has intricate squad level commanding, but you really can't tell me that all of the actions you can tell a squad to do is necessary. I also don't like micromanaging troops like you typically do in combat mission (yes, even in WeGo) and would rather tell a regiment of infantry with platoons and squad within those platoons to move somewhere with the click of a button. I also think mius fronts AI is superior. In combat mission my units run into enemy machine guns and all die where as in mius front my units will notice one of theres died to a machine gun nest and begin to slow crawl or even pop smokes.
Not just $50, but another $20 for incremental engine updates.
@@Salsa_Dip I assume some people consider them “competitors” because there are so few games on the market that can compare to either of the two. Put simply, they are the closest titles to each other in war gaming as a whole. They seem quite similar when compared to say, a 4x game or the like.
In regard to commands, I can say I have used all of them in my time playing the game, sometimes wishing I had more to be honest. More options is better in my book. I also value the diverse theaters and multiplayer functionality CM offers, which is totally absent from Graviteam.
I play both, and I like both, but I can’t see it as fair to say both are comparable and one is clearly better. You are entitled to your opinion and preferences of course.
I'm sorry, but however detailed and "realistic" this game series may be it's still clunky and hard to get into. At $50 per game, that means I've never had any interest in any game from the Combat Mission series
The stuff under the hood is just as janky and outdated as it's appearance.
You can get the games for pretty good prices with Cdkeys, I’d say once it hits 20 USD it’s worth it
Do this game have asia theater?
No sadly I dont think an Asian theatre CM game exists yet
I really enjoyed this vid from not going to lie
Glad to hear that Jacob!
@@theShermanator I just reread the comment holy shit my English is bad I would like to apologize
yeah, I'm not paying $50 for a 20 year old game.
The game is twelve years old, and is priced so the developers can continue making more games and keep them all unilaterally updated and supported. It’s unfortunate you won’t consider the game as it is a unique experience from anything else you could play. To each their own.
@@porterpoteet Sure, but the engine/tech was at least 10 years old when it was first released 12 years ago, not to mention the antiquated UI and gameplay. You had to literally edit text files in the game directory to change key bindings.
@@porterpoteet I'm still not paying 50$ for a 20 year old game. I don't care if it's the greatest thing since Halo 2. that's ridiculously expensive for what it is.
@@aidanacebo9529 graphics really aren’t the thing that you should focus on if you play a combat mission game. It’s about the amazing realism of the game. I get your point though 50 bucks is expensive
@@MRBasgames I'm the dude who plays a game from 2007 on a daily basis. I don't care about graphics. I'm not paying more than 15$ for a 20 year old game.
More combat mission pleaseee
soon
yeah... best ww2 simulator for sure
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i wish for this game to have a better { graphics} and a bigger {map}
Just play Men of war or Company of heroes they look 10 times better and play better too.
bUt iT's a sImUlaTiOn
I rather played this than Men of war 2
Bad decission i would play MoW 2 and call to Arms gates of hell rather than this unfinished pixel games
@@joyogggKids I can smell the cope off you boy lol
@@Archibald1705 i mean i play old game like this to but Like American civil war , i download it for free in 2010 so im familiar with this game to but this game cant beat MOW
More please!
Will do!
fan of this video
Thanks!
The price is way to high 😢
I think now it's on Steam it will finally get some discounts throughout the year
@@theShermanator yess.
And that's what I am going to wait for 😅
Summer sale maybe.
50% off
But this isn't Close Combat?
This is definitely more realistic than CC, I played a ton of the Bridge too Far game from the 90s and.. this is better imo
I concur, very goog.
🙏💥
Hmm , Back to 2005 ...
$ 91 Here in Australia
That is expensive, can only recommend getting it on a big sale then
Name of the Game please?
@@isaacdavis7979 title of video
@@theShermanator Okay Thanks Mate ☺️!!
Some strange comments on the ARR post. It seems CM IMHO is not a game suited for a lot of the Steam audience. It's more about the strategy not the eye candy. Closer to ASL board game then a fps. Never really understood the negativity thing, just seems such a waste of what little time one has here. Most of the time ones opinion is just that. You like it or you don't, and life goes on, with or without you. As a great man once said "Why don't you knock it off them negative waves".
nice sherm nice
cheers!
@@theShermanator i just bought it. its my first ww2 title in the series only play BS and sf2 before. downloading now. Would love to see more CM content,hlp bring this beautiful RTS sim to the masses,most get turned off by screenshots of a game that looks sub par,they miss out on the depth of these titles
Damn, that mortar got VALUE!
ikr!
this costs 59.99 in steam but you can just download it with this link idk but that sounds sus
i know its sherman a popular youtuber but still
its a link to the game
is it free?
i clicked it now i know that its just a lind not a file but it says its a file
Why is this $59.99?!
Let's be honest it's great game but way overpriced for such old game.
agreed
18:59 ES IST EIN MEHR KOMPANIE!
haha
I have the original games and honestly, the series is a frikking rip off, it's a re-release of games that already exist for an outrageous price.
very goog
Thanks Obama Barrack!
Just buy graviteam tactics mius front , same but better.
but no MP, and the game feels just as archaic as this tbh
I deleted my original comment because it was too harsh and I only trash talked this game. if there are strategy features that you can only get here and if you like it so be it I still play the late 90s C&C games because nothing else is like them.
My man, the CnC games before RA3 were the best, Red Alert 1-2, Generals and Zero Hour, played a lot of em with my dad
Basically world war ii online rts mode
ha yeah
Finally
yaaaaa
No more battlefront DRM. yay!
A real game for men (not gay)
I really wanna try this game, but holy crap does it look dated. It just looks like a buggy mess with 20 year old graphics. I mean the soldiers look like their running on a treadmill. You mean to tell me that after 15 years they couldn't improve upon it at all? And they want 60 bucks?
its not for the gfx, you get his game for the scale, realism etc but its not for everyone
A warhammer version of this omg !!
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too bad it cost a fortune. :\
They are very expensive games, luckily with them being on Steam, I wouldn't be surprised if we see them do some sales eventually
@@theShermanator Thats the hope at least, looks like a fun game, however, I probably won't be good at it, as I am not good at combat mission SF2, however I will have fun not being good because I like WWII, lol.
@@TumbleTrashOfficial CM:BN is probably the easiest game out of them all, as the ranges are shorter for vehicles and AT, the hedgerows make dividing the map into strategic areas of approach easier, and the generally slower pace makes it more forgiving.
59 Euros ?
Nope.
and thats just for the base game lmao , just buy graviteam and get everything combat mission offers you but better (with some minor exceptions) and more importantly cheaper which is hilarious cause mius front is from 2016 and this game is from 2011 but it somehow costs more
foxhole tho
Lmao what?
@@theShermanator the player base will migrate with it killing foxhole
^this game looks so bad
Agreed, it doesn't look the best, neither does it run very good BUT man is it a unique game with a very unique MP experience imo
I HATE CUMBAT MISSION WRAAAAH!!
lmao
@@theShermanator shermy
graviteam is better than this in pretty much every possible regard , even price lol , the only things this game has over graviteam is reloading animations for infantry (cant remember ever seeing infantry reload in graviteam but it might just be me) and the game is a bit easier to understand than graviteam due to smaller scale , while graviteam has you work on the operational level yourself , and yes while graviteam doesnt have multiplayers its more or less irrelevant cause most people play singleplayer anyway , not saying that combat mission is a bad game but come on now lets not be silly
Multiplayer is huge, also I tried GTT Operation Star and the UI is just as old and archaic as CM
yes the ui is bad in all graviteam games but still doesnt change the fact that their games are deeper and more grand than combat mission and they somehow costs less , and the multiplayer aspect in pretty much every strategy game is much much smaller than the amount of people who play singleplayer , multiplayer seems huge simply because its more fun to watch than singleplayer , as ive said lets not be silly
what you're not getting in cm is that the numbers being crunched and the results of said crunching are drawn from real-life data and more simulation than game. no other game is as researched or developed for historical accuracy and realism, period. thats why the uk m.o.d., australia and n.z., and the us marines are using the pro edition for leadership and logistics training. if your looking for a consumer tactical simulator this is really the only choice out there.
Kind of looks bad.
This game being 60 dollars for a unupdated 14 Year old gam Is ridicules
and i can get the base graviteam tactics mius front for 31 euros and like what 2 dlcs for the 60 euros that i would otherwise pay the base game of combat mission
Only boomers Will pay for this 😂😂😂
Honestly, I think a lot of older people play CM games, turn based allows you to take hours, days, weeks to give orders to your units - so basically you can take your time haha
I'm 18 and i play CM for already 4 years
based CM enjoyer
This is definitely not the best sim on steam nor is it a simulator.
opinions are something we all have :)
My GOD this looks like CRAP.
@@Xogroroth666 thats what I say, its old looking but the depth is fantastic
@@theShermanator
Depth or not, it looks like crap.
How can these "arcane" looking games still sell?
No wonder all always get worse, quality wise.
Like these MMA games for PC, just the same.
Idiocies like WWE then, get superb quality.
Baffling.
Well, the issue is there is ZERO competition, the devs of Combat Mission games have 0 need/interest in making their stuff look better or run better because well, nobody is attempting to even do anything remotely close to it so yeah.. its Combat Mission or nothing, the devs know this, and thats why its barely changed I think
@@theShermanator
Sad.
Truly, truly sad.
A company has to strife for quality.
It is this simple.
Am I wrong, sir?
whys this look like its using the Empire Earth Engine?
Idk haha