Here are today’s illegal actions, and wow were there a lot this time: 11:08 Chain Strike deals 1200 to Cimo, not 1600. It does 400x its own chain link number, not 400x the entire chain link 17:59 The ruling with Future Fusion is that if its summoning cannot be fulfilled, it gets sent to the GY instead of just staying on the field uselessly 19:54 Cimo cannot use Barrel Behind the Door here. It can only be activated in response to effect damage you would take. Dimension Wall is battle damage. 21:24 MBT cannot use Just Desserts here. It is illegal to attempt to activate Just Desserts if the opponent doesn’t have any monsters at the time. 22:00 Ojama Tokens have 1000 Def, so Mecha-Dog Marron cannot destroy it by battle (they tie) 23:00 Ojama Tokens have 1000 Def, so Exiled Force cannot destroy it by battle (they tie) 23:31 MBT cannot use either Accumulated Fortune on this chain because there are already multiple cards/effects in that chain with the same name (Secret Barrel)
Jesus Christ. I only caught the first chain strike one and the just dessert. I forgot entirely that ojama tokens have defence or that accumulated fortune works that way.
Broke: Yu-gi-oh players can’t read. Woke: By cheating, Alex and Joseph accurately represent the locals experience. Bespoke: 24:05 “Jinzo, ride me to victory… please!”
A judge at a local tournament back in the day once ruled that Waboku does not protect my monsters from being destroyed by battle because it did not explicitly say so on the card even though the card already received the official errata...
"Enjoy your Ojamas, Alex! I think your fusions will remain safely in the future...!" Got to love that they play into the roles of villain vs hero sometimes, with the pegasus voice. that shit is hype
Cimo's greatest archnemesis isn't MBT, but the text of his cards. I was close to tears when he tried to pop the dog with his Blowback. 29:30 Don't worry, you delivered in spades so overloaded, you will now need the jank tank for its ability to hold your absurd muscle mass that will develop after this extreme workout.
How is that an example of the text of HIS cards screwing him over when it came to Blowback Dragon? Seems more like it was not reading Maron that was about to screw him over if he succeeded. Or was that meant to be two different thoughts?
Okay, Game 2 and 3 conclusions: 1: Cimo used "Barrel Behind the Door" on a "Dimension Wall", which it has the effect of redirecting battle damage, not effect damage. 2: Joseph activated Just Desserts on Cimo's empty field(before activating Ojama Trio as CL 4). Illegal move. 3: Joseph attacked Ojama tokens with 1000 Def while Mecha Marron and Exiled Force both have 1000 Atk. 4: Joseph made an illegal chain move. Accumulated Fortune has a condition of not having another card of the same name be in the chain. He used 2 secret barrels in the chain and then activating 2 Accumulated Fortunes. MAJOR Illegal move there. CIMO WINS BY DEFAULT! YU-GI-OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
You can chain Accumulated Fortune to Accumulated Fortune once during a chain, but that still doesn’t change that 2 Secret Barrels were still activated.
@@Magna_Dragon It’s not the most intuitive thing in the world - it’s damage being caused to you by a card effect. I get how someone would mix it up. Besides, we’re here for entertainment - this isn’t a YCS.
Mecha dog Marron is a card that I found quite funny as a kid, just because I could not parse the effect for the life of me. Now having a resonable understanding of it, I find it funny that cimo tried to blow it up with Barrel dragon, as that would just triggger the effect that only damages himself.
except if they read the cards it'd been illegal to activate at least one Accumulated Fortune because of its effect. Then again this is hostory of jank, so to the jank tank they ought to go
@@juhovuolinko6446 technically both would be illegal to activate since neither meets requirements, but yes the first one was illegal, the second was just continuing an illegal move for the same reason
Turns out a card game with no resources other than raw card advantage and life is extremely degenerate in nature and leads to absurd combos at virtually every stage of the game’s existence.
I saw him calc Chain Link 3 Chain Strike as 1600 instead of 1200 and immediately went "goddamnit the replies are gonna have a field day with this", glad y'all didn't disappoint :^)
@@lordquaz7154 "You cannot activate this card if multiple cards/effects with the same name are in that Chain." so you can't activate it if you activated two Secret Barrels in the same chain
Or just make it a series. They play whatever they like for fun and whatever they're playing is just played as is without even trying to read it. They just do what they think the card does at the time. "Welcome to... Sloppy Sunday. Where the card effects are made up and the life points don't matter."
17:59 If future fusion is unable to summon the monster due to maxed out monster zones, it is sent to the GY. (Also using Ojama Trio to “block” chimera tech is technically a blunder since chimeratech blows its side of the field upon summoning, including ff, which would take the chimeratech with it due to its own effect)
Not sure how they missed this, the reason the deck plays Overload is because Future Fusion kills the Chimeratech right away so you Overload the 2nd one
@@aereon_gaming Didn't Cimo make this exact same mistake when he played a similar deck in a different series? I remember Cimo realizing that Chimeratech basically kills itself.
@@zephshoir Yes, that definitely happened. It was crazy that he summoned a powerful monster only for it to be useless except as a field clearer, but I think at the time he thought it was like Judgment Dragon. However, the fact that he still doesn't know that is bizarre lol.
10:50 It probably didn't matter, but Cimo did give up an extra 400 life. Chain strike deals damage times its chain link number, not the size of the full chain (which would be busted imo)
How does anyone who plays that card not understand that? It literally says so on the card, there is no way to have any confusion about it. Oterhwise people could just play it at Chain Link 2 and do a wholebunch of shenganigans, that would be broken.
Or cimooooooooooooo activated barrel behind the door as response to Dimension Wall, which is battle damage, not effect damage, so that's also an illegal play, haha
@@ReligionsFakten It still won't be activated if the opponent doesn't have a monster on the field. Even if Joseph activates Ojama Trio, there are still no monsters to be played yet when Just Desserts is activated already. Key word "YET"
today drill would not require to control an ancient gear monster to activate it, the discarded card would be an ancient gear card, it would set an anciant gear spell card except of another copy of itself and it would have 1 activation of this card per turn.
People in the comments are complaining about them not reading their cards, but personally o think it helps the immersion. Two players with dumb decks who barely know what their cards do is the true Yugioh local experience!
And then someone watching the duel hands them over a fifteen page essay about every illegal play that was made in the matches and why those plays were illegal.
Chain Strike deals damage its Chain Link number, not for how many chain links are in the entire chain (game 1). Many other misplays were made, but I didn't see anyone mention this yet.
23:02 - 23:06 Don't the Ojama tokens have 1000 defense points and Exiled Force has 1000 attack points? Doesn't that result in a tie? Why are the Ojama tokens destroyed though?
Because these two make up card effects for cards they haven't thought about in fifteen years. In their minds Ojama Tokens have 0 defense somehow even though that makes no sense. And you can't tell me it was entirely MBT's fault, Cimo could've told him it was a tie but he didn't.
2:05 you actually are allowed to activate it if there is a second chain strike in the chain but… not a third copy… at least those are the rules now as the card says “you cannot activate this card…” that means you can still activate it if a chain strike is already in the chain but not if there are multiple and it says nothing about resolving.
Talky man neglected to mention the combo where you would set a spell and bounce it on the same turn with giant trunade to activate it immediately without waiting a turn.
(Haven't watched the video yet, so I'm just speaking generally) You just can't ACTIVATE Accumulated Fortune/Chain Strike if there are ALREADY multiple effects with the same name on the chain. It's an activation restriction on the card. At the time of the second Accumulated Fortune's activation, there can be another Accumulated Fortune on the chain. There just can't ALREADY be two. EDIT: Ah, so what I was talking about doesn't matter in the case you're talking about. It was a double secret barrel.
@@NixDolores generally speaking correct; in context of this video, it’s an illegal play when it happens, due chain 2 and 3 being the same cards (two copies), then “chain” 4 and 5 are Accumulated Fortune
@@11wildy63 in general yes, two Accumulated Fortunes can be activated in chain 4 and 5 if chains 1-3 have different names, however in the context of the video due to the chain 2 and 3 being the same name cards in the chain, chain 4 Accumulated Fortune was not legal to activate and the subsequent chain 5 Accumulated Fortune was also not legal to activate, because the same reason two cards in the same chain prior to activation have the same name making Accumulated Fortune unable to meet its activation restriction; Cimo would still take the damage however MBT would not be able to draw any cards and would be left with only 2 set Accumulated fortunes on field (with Jinzo being played after locking them on the board)
Both Cimo AND MBT out here really just reinforcing the stereotype that yugioh players are actually just illiterate and have no idea what their own cards do They need to get a judge to watch them play or something at this rate Fuck's sake
I'm not sure about the secret barrels but you can activate a second accumulated fortune usually because when you activate it there is not yet a second accumulated fortune in the chain Edit: NVM yeah after finding that part I'm 100 percent sure they just can't read 🤣
Mystical wind typhoon has the same wording as accumalated fortune and the ruling for it states that you can use 2 in the same chain: "After "Mystical Wind Typhoon" is activated as Chain Link 3, two cards of the same name are not in the same chain yet, so you can activate a second copy of "Mystical Wind Typhoon" as Chain Link 4. However, you cannot activate a third "Mystical Wind Typhoon" as Chain Link 5 because two copies of "Mystical Wind Typhoon" were activated in the same chain.[2]" Why you have doubts about secret barrel though?
@@silverG777 Ah that I did not see. Yes that does not work but if it would be a chain that would only have uniques you would be able to activate 2 accumalated fortunes in the same chain.
Joseph did a massive chet in game 3, he can't chain link 4 activate Accumulated Fortune since he activated 2 Secret Barrels in the same chain which 100% mattered cuz he drew 4 cards off of double Fortune.
You can activate Chain Strike in response to another chain strike I believe, because at activation, the rule preventing you from activating is not violated.
barrel behind the door was teched quite a but back then, burn was aq very common deck. i built my friends burn deck that won regionals in san jose like 06-07
@@alexd9341 How was desserts illegal? As far as I know you can activate it any time after the turn you set it. He activated it in cimos draw phase. Am I missing something? I should add the disclaimer, I am a scrub so don't rip me apart if it is obvious please. haha
@@SleepyTaylor I think he means in game 3, when he activated just desserts and chained ojama trio, although cimo had an empty field so the activation of just desserts was illegal at that point Edit: also, regarding game 1, I really dont think 100 life would had made any difference, since MBT probably had more ways of doing that 100 damage or would had drawn into one, and Cimo's brick hand was not going to do much
@@Zamamikol ah gotcha. I just assumed he was referring to the Dessert in game 1, because he replied to a comment about game 1 and didn't specify otherwise haha.
You can chain chain strike to chain strike and accumulated to accumulated, because the "that chain" doesn't include itself on the second strike/accumulated. You can't, though, chain another one.
I played heavily in this era. My friends and I all had between 7-10 cards sided for burn. Most side decks we saw did the same. Easy to do since so many of the decks were so similar and used 20-25 of the same cards except for burn.
Not sure if it's still ruled this way but Barrel behind the door shouldn't work on dimension wall bc it makes opponent take battle damage specifically. Unlike magic cylinder which just says damage. Implying by effect
I love how magical mallet of all things was played. Seriously if it kept its anime effect where it is shuffled back into the deck alongside what you pick for its effect, I guarantee It would not only see play, but probably be on the banlist in some capacity.
The mention of ancient gear reminded me of my old Jank deck. 3x Gear Town field spell 3x Ancient Gear Gadjiltron Dragon 3x Magical Hats This was the core. Magical Hats allows Gear Town proc and drag out Gadjiltron for free. 3x Destiny Hero Defender 3x Wall of Illusions 3x Hane Hane 1x Spirit Reaper 1x Arcana Force 0 - The Fool 3x Mask of Darkness 2x Mirror Force 3x Magical Cylinders 3x Draining Shield 3x Wiretap 1x Torrential Tribute 2x Level Limit - Area B 1x Scapegoat 1x Heavy Storm 1x Swords of Revealing Light This was the jank. Every card chosen to stall, destroy attackers, heal myself, remove select targets or just outright wipe the board.
You actually CAN use two Chain Strike in the same chain, because it only prevents you from activating if there is two cards with the same name in the same chain, which doesn't happen until the second one activates!
To "MBT Toe Sniffer": When I said you needed Jesus when you were "Ash Blossom Toe Sniffer," this wasn't what I meant. I think you walked into the wrong church-a weird church.
*Reading?!?* Ain't nobody got time fo' dat!!! 10:57 - Strike inflicts damage = to *ITS* chain link number, not the total. 19:47 - Dimension Wall = Battle Damage, not effect Damage. Meaning Barrel = Useless. 21:21 - Can't activate Just Desserts with no monsters on your opponent's side of the field (Though, as pointed out later, there were enough cards on the field that he could've activated Ojama Trio during Draw Phase and there still would've been enough cards to chain for everything to resolve normally.) 22:22 - Marron's effect for 1000 DMG would *ONLY* DMG Cimooooo if destroyed by effect. 23:31 - Can't activate Fortune because there are two copies of Secret Barrel in the chain. Though I *do* think that activating two at the end *would* be legal if the two Barrels were different cards since Fortune's effect only prohibits it from *_activating_* when there are two of the same cards in the chain, not preventing its effect from resolving.
Okay, while there were only minor misplays in Game 1 and 2, the one from Game 3 actually mattered a lot I feel like. The illegal activation of double Accumulated Fortune gave MBT four extra hand cards, without which he would have fared much worse. I'll chalk up this episode to Cimo for now since he had more of an advantage at this time, but we won't know that for sure, unless I try my hand at this what if scenario. So for anyone interested in that, you can find my analysis of the situation and how it would have impacted the game if it was played properly below. The card MBT would have drawn for turn is Chain Strike (watch the card on the very right of his hand), so assuming that MBT would have gotten a takeback on his Secret Barrels, he would have to end his turn on double Secret Barrel, double Accumulated Fortune and the one Chain Strike, all of them set of course. Cimo would have started his turn with 4100 LP (the same amount he had in the actual game before the Secret Barrels were flipped), as well as one extra hand card (this is relevant for the Secret Barrel damage). Since MBT would be at 2000 LP, Cimo would have no reason to commit into starting a chain, so he would have just attacked directly. So the best MBT could have done would be Chain Link 1 Secret Barrel, Chain Link 2 Chain Strike, Chain Link 3 the second Secret Barrel, and then the two Accumulated Fortunes (which wouldn't have mattered for the purposes of this what if scenario since MBT didn't play any Kuribohs or something like that). With Cimo's hand+field count at 8 due to his normal draw, the two Barrels would have done 1600 damage each, while Chain Strike would have done 800 damage due to being Chain Link 2. This would add up to (1600 + 1600 + 800 =) 4000 damage, which is just 100 damage short of finishing Cimo off. MBT couldn't have used Chain Strike as a higher Chain Link to bridge that deficit due to Chain Strike's activation condition, so there was no way to sequence the chain differently by using the two Secret Barrels first. My facit is therefore that Cimo should have been the rightful winner of this match. Not that it is particularly important in the grand scheme of things, I just wanted to do the math since I find scenarios like this entertaining.
But in Game 2, Cimo couldn't have used Barrel Behind the Door on Dimension Wall, so either player could have won that game- and if MBT won, that's a 2-0 for MBT and Game 3 didn't matter.
@@aereon_gaming You do realize that Cimo was still at 8000 LP and had two Barrel Behind the Door to his name, right? The battle damage being reflected would have only prolongued the inevitable, as with Barrel Behind the Door MBT could effectively no longer use any major burn effects since he only had 1600 LP, as the reflection from Barrel Behind the Door would kill him then. So basically MBT got his only win condition blocked by Cimo having Barrel, since he can no longer do burn damage. Did I mention that it's also a counter trap and thus Spell Speed 3, meaning it cannot be responded to by any card in MBT's deck, leaving no options to counter it while it also functions as a way for Cimo to stop MBT from building long chains? Plus he had not one, but two of them. So yeah, Game 2 was over anyway. That's why I said "minor misplays in Game 1 and 2" in my original message, because this one clearly didn't distort the outcome much, if at all.
I love how Cimo tried to blow up the Marron, but I especially love how MBT also thought that him missing on Blowback was good for him. It's one thing for Cimo to not know the card even though he could take 3 seconds and read it, but how the fuck does MBT have the fucking card in his deck and still not know that destroying it other than through battle is GOOD for him?
So dimensional wall makes it so you would take battle damage, not effect damage yeah? But barrel behind the door makes it so when a card inflicts damage? Does that work how it works in the episode and it’s a case of old cards being dumb or am I dumb
Barrel Behind the Door doesn’t work on Dimension Wall, I’m pretty sure. Dimension Wall itself doesn’t inflict damage to anyone, it’s not effect damage. It simply redirects the direct attack, so it’s like battle damage. It’s one of the reasons it’s played over Magic Cylinder in chain burn
funny thing the tockens of ojama trio have 1000 def. the other thing is you can not activated the "chain" cards if there are 2 cards with the same name in the chain
I lost to chain burn at locals and got so mad the police had to be called. My other matches for the day were final countdown and exodia, so everyone is lucky I didn't go on a murder spree.
Well at least you didn't have to deal with Destiny Board, Last Turn, Blasting the Ruins, or Magical Explosion. Although wasn't Prime Material Dragonaround at this time? If so, you shoudl've sided three, plus Exchange for Exodia, and Spell Cancellor/Magic Jammer for Final Countdown and hope your opponent doesn't draw it turn one.
Am i wrong? Why did Cimo put his overload fusion back in game 2? Isnt the point of the deck to play future fusion and then play the spell to summon an 8k+ machine to OTK? I know gravity bind was there but he had blowback in hand with a summon for turn also he was still drawing 2 cards for magical mallet
What 8k+ machine are you speaking of? The Overload Fusion would've helped him summon it, yes, cleared space for Fusion Fusion to resolve, BUT if you mean Chimerteach Overload Dragon or whateverthat bleeder is called, it would've blown itself up, so it wouldn't OTK anything. If you mean some other monster then sure he made a mega trashy play.
@@poisonedyoyo chimertech is what i mean and i didnt mean off future fusion, yes it blows itself up off that because it destroys FF, but if u overload it doesnt kill itself but it does kill the rest of his board...but in tandem with a backrow removal that is the point of this deck send your machines with FF then play Overload and attack for game 🤷🏻♂️
many people are saying i cheated here. to them i say:
yes, i did
Not only was this jank but God neither player read any of the card. I say jank tank for both of them next episode
100% agreed
Lol the machine deck I didn't notice any miss plays but I imagine the the burn deck was misplayed.
xd
Read accumulated fortune
@@Aaron_Heininger He tried popping outstanding dog
Here are today’s illegal actions, and wow were there a lot this time:
11:08 Chain Strike deals 1200 to Cimo, not 1600. It does 400x its own chain link number, not 400x the entire chain link
17:59 The ruling with Future Fusion is that if its summoning cannot be fulfilled, it gets sent to the GY instead of just staying on the field uselessly
19:54 Cimo cannot use Barrel Behind the Door here. It can only be activated in response to effect damage you would take. Dimension Wall is battle damage.
21:24 MBT cannot use Just Desserts here. It is illegal to attempt to activate Just Desserts if the opponent doesn’t have any monsters at the time.
22:00 Ojama Tokens have 1000 Def, so Mecha-Dog Marron cannot destroy it by battle (they tie)
23:00 Ojama Tokens have 1000 Def, so Exiled Force cannot destroy it by battle (they tie)
23:31 MBT cannot use either Accumulated Fortune on this chain because there are already multiple cards/effects in that chain with the same name (Secret Barrel)
yeah lol as someone who used to play chain burn that was pain to my eyes
@@elrompecabezasdelmilenio6210 Watching Cimo's play of Chimeratech was equally painful to me
Jesus Christ. I only caught the first chain strike one and the just dessert. I forgot entirely that ojama tokens have defence or that accumulated fortune works that way.
this ep was horrible
@@yamizakygo5869 I wouldn't call it awful. It was entertaining if nothing else.
Definitely both of you should be in the jank tank for next episode for how little the both of you read lol
This is the only correct take for next episode
Broke: Yu-gi-oh players can’t read.
Woke: By cheating, Alex and Joseph accurately represent the locals experience.
Bespoke: 24:05 “Jinzo, ride me to victory… please!”
A judge at a local tournament back in the day once ruled that Waboku does not protect my monsters from being destroyed by battle because it did not explicitly say so on the card even though the card already received the official errata...
@@Trissi5 by game mechs,no damage/0 atk monsters don't do anything,so he was a dummy lmao
@@Trissi5 wow so if I summon envoy of the end it would do pre-eratta effect by his logic? Wow
"Enjoy your Ojamas, Alex! I think your fusions will remain safely in the future...!"
Got to love that they play into the roles of villain vs hero sometimes, with the pegasus voice. that shit is hype
Cimo's greatest archnemesis isn't MBT, but the text of his cards. I was close to tears when he tried to pop the dog with his Blowback.
29:30 Don't worry, you delivered in spades so overloaded, you will now need the jank tank for its ability to hold your absurd muscle mass that will develop after this extreme workout.
How is that an example of the text of HIS cards screwing him over when it came to Blowback Dragon? Seems more like it was not reading Maron that was about to screw him over if he succeeded. Or was that meant to be two different thoughts?
Barrel behind the door doesn't work against dimension wall since that's not effect damage it's battle damage
I was about to comment the right same thing. Neither of them read the card
22:00 Ojama Tokens have 1000 def, so Mecha-dog Marron should bounce off it here. Same deal for Exiled Force at 23:00
Okay, Game 2 and 3 conclusions:
1: Cimo used "Barrel Behind the Door" on a "Dimension Wall", which it has the effect of redirecting battle damage, not effect damage.
2: Joseph activated Just Desserts on Cimo's empty field(before activating Ojama Trio as CL 4). Illegal move.
3: Joseph attacked Ojama tokens with 1000 Def while Mecha Marron and Exiled Force both have 1000 Atk.
4: Joseph made an illegal chain move. Accumulated Fortune has a condition of not having another card of the same name be in the chain. He used 2 secret barrels in the chain and then activating 2 Accumulated Fortunes. MAJOR Illegal move there. CIMO WINS BY DEFAULT!
YU-GI-OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
dirty chet by mbt. well, he learned from the best cheter cheatmoooooo.
You can chain Accumulated Fortune to Accumulated Fortune once during a chain, but that still doesn’t change that 2 Secret Barrels were still activated.
@@kogoromori30 identify yourself as a Farfa viewer without identifying yourself as a Farfa viewer.
Well. We can hope for double JankTank for next episode.
I cried on the f**k ups
19:54 dimension wall does not do effect damage, it makes your opponent take battle damage instead, barrel could not be chained
I don't know why Cimoooooooo don't know this
@@Magna_Dragon It’s not the most intuitive thing in the world - it’s damage being caused to you by a card effect. I get how someone would mix it up.
Besides, we’re here for entertainment - this isn’t a YCS.
Mecha dog Marron is a card that I found quite funny as a kid, just because I could not parse the effect for the life of me. Now having a resonable understanding of it, I find it funny that cimo tried to blow it up with Barrel dragon, as that would just triggger the effect that only damages himself.
23:35
"So I take 2800, you draw four"
Sounds like modern Yu-Gi-Oh
perfectly balanced exchange
Yeah, but also illegal play in this case Fortune was not an active card to play
except if they read the cards it'd been illegal to activate at least one Accumulated Fortune because of its effect. Then again this is hostory of jank, so to the jank tank they ought to go
@@juhovuolinko6446 technically both would be illegal to activate since neither meets requirements, but yes the first one was illegal, the second was just continuing an illegal move for the same reason
Turns out a card game with no resources other than raw card advantage and life is extremely degenerate in nature and leads to absurd combos at virtually every stage of the game’s existence.
Cimo must be tired from all these series... he's reading less cards than ever before lol
Wait, there are word on those things?
Well he's playing old cards most of them he knows but yah chain links always confused me so yah I don't blame them
I saw him calc Chain Link 3 Chain Strike as 1600 instead of 1200 and immediately went "goddamnit the replies are gonna have a field day with this", glad y'all didn't disappoint :^)
Implying he ever did
Can they both have the jank tank next episode? the amount of chet in this episode was insane
The accumulated fortune one was legal though, but yeah there's a lot of assuming how things work in this one.
@@rafael_lana no it wasn't?? two secret barrels in the same chain
@@Alessandro-rn8tp Why is that a problem? No, seriously. Am I reading the card wrong?
@@lordquaz7154 "You cannot activate this card if multiple cards/effects with the same name are in that Chain." so you can't activate it if you activated two Secret Barrels in the same chain
@@Alessandro-rn8tp Oh. You where talking about accumulated fortune. I thought you where talking about secret barrel.
Double jank tank for next episode lets get it to happen lads so these two can save money for english classes
Just change this series name to "Reading is hard: A Yu-Gi-Oh! experience" xD
Or just make it a series.
They play whatever they like for fun and whatever they're playing is just played as is without even trying to read it. They just do what they think the card does at the time.
"Welcome to... Sloppy Sunday. Where the card effects are made up and the life points don't matter."
@@RunicSigils I’d watch it. Basically Duelist Kingdom the entire way.
17:59 If future fusion is unable to summon the monster due to maxed out monster zones, it is sent to the GY. (Also using Ojama Trio to “block” chimera tech is technically a blunder since chimeratech blows its side of the field upon summoning, including ff, which would take the chimeratech with it due to its own effect)
Exactly
Not sure how they missed this, the reason the deck plays Overload is because Future Fusion kills the Chimeratech right away so you Overload the 2nd one
@@aereon_gaming No reason to summon it though as gravity bind was up. It wouldn't be able to attack and would be vunerable to an exiled force play.
@@aereon_gaming Didn't Cimo make this exact same mistake when he played a similar deck in a different series? I remember Cimo realizing that Chimeratech basically kills itself.
@@zephshoir Yes, that definitely happened. It was crazy that he summoned a powerful monster only for it to be useless except as a field clearer, but I think at the time he thought it was like Judgment Dragon. However, the fact that he still doesn't know that is bizarre lol.
Honestly the illegal moves just make this series even better
10:50
It probably didn't matter, but Cimo did give up an extra 400 life. Chain strike deals damage times its chain link number, not the size of the full chain (which would be busted imo)
With multiples legal it would be op, at 1 wouldn't really matter.
the wholes episode is a disaster
How does anyone who plays that card not understand that? It literally says so on the card, there is no way to have any confusion about it. Oterhwise people could just play it at Chain Link 2 and do a wholebunch of shenganigans, that would be broken.
The hardest part of playing against burn is when nobody reads the cards
That applies to all decks not just burn
Dzeeff nodding his head to seeing magic cylinder in the jank series
Nodders
Score board for this series:
Cimo: 6
MBT: 6
Score board for regular HOY:
Cimo: 30
MBT: 30
Doesn’t get more even than that
22:00
Not that it actually matters, but Ojama Trio tokens have 1000 defense, so nothing should've happened :P
Let's not forget that Joseph activated Just Desserts on Cimo's empty field.
Or cimooooooooooooo activated barrel behind the door as response to Dimension Wall, which is battle damage, not effect damage, so that's also an illegal play, haha
@@ReligionsFakten the opponent needs to have a monster on field to *activate* Desserts
@@omi-kuroshiri9745 Also activated Accumulated Fortune twice after two Secret Barrels in game 3, which doesn't work.
@@ReligionsFakten It still won't be activated if the opponent doesn't have a monster on the field. Even if Joseph activates Ojama Trio, there are still no monsters to be played yet when Just Desserts is activated already. Key word "YET"
You know it's gonna be a weird one when you see Ancient Gear Drill.
today drill would not require to control an ancient gear monster to activate it, the discarded card would be an ancient gear card, it would set an anciant gear spell card except of another copy of itself and it would have 1 activation of this card per turn.
People in the comments are complaining about them not reading their cards, but personally o think it helps the immersion. Two players with dumb decks who barely know what their cards do is the true Yugioh local experience!
And then someone watching the duel hands them over a fifteen page essay about every illegal play that was made in the matches and why those plays were illegal.
11:08 chain link number. Which was 3 for a total damage of 3*400=1200.
Chain Strike deals damage its Chain Link number, not for how many chain links are in the entire chain (game 1). Many other misplays were made, but I didn't see anyone mention this yet.
You probably didn't look then
23:02 - 23:06
Don't the Ojama tokens have 1000 defense points and Exiled Force has 1000 attack points? Doesn't that result in a tie? Why are the Ojama tokens destroyed though?
Because these two make up card effects for cards they haven't thought about in fifteen years. In their minds Ojama Tokens have 0 defense somehow even though that makes no sense. And you can't tell me it was entirely MBT's fault, Cimo could've told him it was a tie but he didn't.
I did not think there was any chance he would win, that side deck is basically built to counter the actual jank deck lmao
Card activated as chain link 3 does 400x it's link.
Cimo: ok, 1600 it is!
2:05 you actually are allowed to activate it if there is a second chain strike in the chain but… not a third copy… at least those are the rules now as the card says “you cannot activate this card…” that means you can still activate it if a chain strike is already in the chain but not if there are multiple and it says nothing about resolving.
Cap G had a video on Cimooooos deck I think. It's a tale for sure.
I like how they were playing competent decks and this still managed to be the jankiest match yet
Talky man neglected to mention the combo where you would set a spell and bounce it on the same turn with giant trunade to activate it immediately without waiting a turn.
You Farfa viewers are insufferable
Wow the chets double accumulated when you can’t have multiple cards of the came name in the same chain
(Haven't watched the video yet, so I'm just speaking generally)
You just can't ACTIVATE Accumulated Fortune/Chain Strike if there are ALREADY multiple effects with the same name on the chain. It's an activation restriction on the card. At the time of the second Accumulated Fortune's activation, there can be another Accumulated Fortune on the chain. There just can't ALREADY be two.
EDIT: Ah, so what I was talking about doesn't matter in the case you're talking about. It was a double secret barrel.
@@NixDolores generally speaking correct; in context of this video, it’s an illegal play when it happens, due chain 2 and 3 being the same cards (two copies), then “chain” 4 and 5 are Accumulated Fortune
Actually when you activate the second it's allowed because there were no multiples in the chain, letting you activate a second :)
@@m4sk3d1 Yeah, I commented before watching the video. Hence the edit later.
@@11wildy63 in general yes, two Accumulated Fortunes can be activated in chain 4 and 5 if chains 1-3 have different names, however in the context of the video due to the chain 2 and 3 being the same name cards in the chain, chain 4 Accumulated Fortune was not legal to activate and the subsequent chain 5 Accumulated Fortune was also not legal to activate, because the same reason two cards in the same chain prior to activation have the same name making Accumulated Fortune unable to meet its activation restriction; Cimo would still take the damage however MBT would not be able to draw any cards and would be left with only 2 set Accumulated fortunes on field (with Jinzo being played after locking them on the board)
I love jank. I live for jank. Thank you for providing us some good old jank. You guys are awesome.
You should pick a format and then pick a jank deck without telling the other person
Funny, Cimo reading the patreons and seeing MBT reactions become one of highlights for me 😅😆😅😆
Both Cimo AND MBT out here really just reinforcing the stereotype that yugioh players are actually just illiterate and have no idea what their own cards do
They need to get a judge to watch them play or something at this rate
Fuck's sake
God that was jank
I’m like 90% sure you couldn’t activate two accumulated fortune and two secret barrel in the same chain
I'm not sure about the secret barrels but you can activate a second accumulated fortune usually because when you activate it there is not yet a second accumulated fortune in the chain
Edit: NVM yeah after finding that part I'm 100 percent sure they just can't read 🤣
Mystical wind typhoon has the same wording as accumalated fortune and the ruling for it states that you can use 2 in the same chain:
"After "Mystical Wind Typhoon" is activated as Chain Link 3, two cards of the same name are not in the same chain yet, so you can activate a second copy of "Mystical Wind Typhoon" as Chain Link 4. However, you cannot activate a third "Mystical Wind Typhoon" as Chain Link 5 because two copies of "Mystical Wind Typhoon" were activated in the same chain.[2]"
Why you have doubts about secret barrel though?
@@EisteeMango MBT used two secret barrel, THEN chained accumulated fortune to it
@@silverG777 Ah that I did not see. Yes that does not work but if it would be a chain that would only have uniques you would be able to activate 2 accumalated fortunes in the same chain.
@@EisteeMango yes I addressed that in my first comment replying to OP
READ. YOUR. CARDS. good lord
Barrell behind the door should be the next Starlight Rare in 2022.
I love MBT's face when Cio plays Barrel behind the door
Joseph did a massive chet in game 3, he can't chain link 4 activate Accumulated Fortune since he activated 2 Secret Barrels in the same chain which 100% mattered cuz he drew 4 cards off of double Fortune.
Barrel behind the door is the craziest artwork I’ve seen 😂
This has to be the episode with the most errors out of any of Cimo’s series lol
Dark Crisis History of Yu-Gi-Oh
jank tank for both because of not reading cards lmao
I think this episode set a new record for illegal plays (from both players)of any episode in any Yugioh series since DM season 1
You can activate Chain Strike in response to another chain strike I believe, because at activation, the rule preventing you from activating is not violated.
barrel behind the door was teched quite a but back then, burn was aq very common deck. i built my friends burn deck that won regionals in san jose like 06-07
Chain strike was 1200 in game 1 not 1600 thus Alex would've lived Desserts
Desserts was also activated illegally, lol.
@@alexd9341 How was desserts illegal? As far as I know you can activate it any time after the turn you set it. He activated it in cimos draw phase. Am I missing something?
I should add the disclaimer, I am a scrub so don't rip me apart if it is obvious please. haha
@@SleepyTaylor I think he means in game 3, when he activated just desserts and chained ojama trio, although cimo had an empty field so the activation of just desserts was illegal at that point
Edit: also, regarding game 1, I really dont think 100 life would had made any difference, since MBT probably had more ways of doing that 100 damage or would had drawn into one, and Cimo's brick hand was not going to do much
@@Zamamikol ah gotcha. I just assumed he was referring to the Dessert in game 1, because he replied to a comment about game 1 and didn't specify otherwise haha.
@@SleepyTaylor whoops yup this one is my bad!! Sorry folks. I mixed up games 1 and 3
You can chain chain strike to chain strike and accumulated to accumulated, because the "that chain" doesn't include itself on the second strike/accumulated. You can't, though, chain another one.
my brain is bleeding from reading that
I played heavily in this era. My friends and I all had between 7-10 cards sided for burn. Most side decks we saw did the same. Easy to do since so many of the decks were so similar and used 20-25 of the same cards except for burn.
Is that a misplay at 23:35 since he activated Accumulated Measures while having two cards with the same name in the chain link?
Not sure if it's still ruled this way but Barrel behind the door shouldn't work on dimension wall bc it makes opponent take battle damage specifically. Unlike magic cylinder which just says damage. Implying by effect
Barrel Behind the Door is Gravekeeper's Vassal's worst nightmare...
Really need Joseph to play Rainbow Neos and Dark Gaia OTK when they get to Edison format
Hi, played Dark Gaia Back in the Day
Head canon: the jank tank and the shirt of shame have never been washed
I love how magical mallet of all things was played. Seriously if it kept its anime effect where it is shuffled back into the deck alongside what you pick for its effect, I guarantee It would not only see play, but probably be on the banlist in some capacity.
At the very least, it'd be limited, since it could be a one-for-one like Upstart Goblin. I wouldn't be surprised if they banned it though
I liked when the jank tank enthusiast flipped over the purple cards and talky man's life points went to zero
The following video contains a lack of reading. Parental discretion is advised.
The mention of ancient gear reminded me of my old Jank deck.
3x Gear Town field spell
3x Ancient Gear Gadjiltron Dragon
3x Magical Hats
This was the core. Magical Hats allows Gear Town proc and drag out Gadjiltron for free.
3x Destiny Hero Defender
3x Wall of Illusions
3x Hane Hane
1x Spirit Reaper
1x Arcana Force 0 - The Fool
3x Mask of Darkness
2x Mirror Force
3x Magical Cylinders
3x Draining Shield
3x Wiretap
1x Torrential Tribute
2x Level Limit - Area B
1x Scapegoat
1x Heavy Storm
1x Swords of Revealing Light
This was the jank. Every card chosen to stall, destroy attackers, heal myself, remove select targets or just outright wipe the board.
You actually CAN use two Chain Strike in the same chain, because it only prevents you from activating if there is two cards with the same name in the same chain, which doesn't happen until the second one activates!
Loved the last game, guys! Super close set! Always good to see those!
To "MBT Toe Sniffer": When I said you needed Jesus when you were "Ash Blossom Toe Sniffer," this wasn't what I meant. I think you walked into the wrong church-a weird church.
I think it was definitely the right church.
*Reading?!?* Ain't nobody got time fo' dat!!!
10:57 - Strike inflicts damage = to *ITS* chain link number, not the total.
19:47 - Dimension Wall = Battle Damage, not effect Damage. Meaning Barrel = Useless.
21:21 - Can't activate Just Desserts with no monsters on your opponent's side of the field (Though, as pointed out later, there were enough cards on the field that he could've activated Ojama Trio during Draw Phase and there still would've been enough cards to chain for everything to resolve normally.)
22:22 - Marron's effect for 1000 DMG would *ONLY* DMG Cimooooo if destroyed by effect.
23:31 - Can't activate Fortune because there are two copies of Secret Barrel in the chain. Though I *do* think that activating two at the end *would* be legal if the two Barrels were different cards since Fortune's effect only prohibits it from *_activating_* when there are two of the same cards in the chain, not preventing its effect from resolving.
Both of them deserve the jank tank next episode after this
20:02 Cimo using flamethrower in GTA
I do not normally bring up misplays but The damage was still considered battle damage, so barrel behind the door could not trigger.
Okay, while there were only minor misplays in Game 1 and 2, the one from Game 3 actually mattered a lot I feel like. The illegal activation of double Accumulated Fortune gave MBT four extra hand cards, without which he would have fared much worse. I'll chalk up this episode to Cimo for now since he had more of an advantage at this time, but we won't know that for sure, unless I try my hand at this what if scenario. So for anyone interested in that, you can find my analysis of the situation and how it would have impacted the game if it was played properly below.
The card MBT would have drawn for turn is Chain Strike (watch the card on the very right of his hand), so assuming that MBT would have gotten a takeback on his Secret Barrels, he would have to end his turn on double Secret Barrel, double Accumulated Fortune and the one Chain Strike, all of them set of course. Cimo would have started his turn with 4100 LP (the same amount he had in the actual game before the Secret Barrels were flipped), as well as one extra hand card (this is relevant for the Secret Barrel damage). Since MBT would be at 2000 LP, Cimo would have no reason to commit into starting a chain, so he would have just attacked directly. So the best MBT could have done would be Chain Link 1 Secret Barrel, Chain Link 2 Chain Strike, Chain Link 3 the second Secret Barrel, and then the two Accumulated Fortunes (which wouldn't have mattered for the purposes of this what if scenario since MBT didn't play any Kuribohs or something like that). With Cimo's hand+field count at 8 due to his normal draw, the two Barrels would have done 1600 damage each, while Chain Strike would have done 800 damage due to being Chain Link 2. This would add up to (1600 + 1600 + 800 =) 4000 damage, which is just 100 damage short of finishing Cimo off. MBT couldn't have used Chain Strike as a higher Chain Link to bridge that deficit due to Chain Strike's activation condition, so there was no way to sequence the chain differently by using the two Secret Barrels first. My facit is therefore that Cimo should have been the rightful winner of this match. Not that it is particularly important in the grand scheme of things, I just wanted to do the math since I find scenarios like this entertaining.
But in Game 2, Cimo couldn't have used Barrel Behind the Door on Dimension Wall, so either player could have won that game- and if MBT won, that's a 2-0 for MBT and Game 3 didn't matter.
@@aereon_gaming You do realize that Cimo was still at 8000 LP and had two Barrel Behind the Door to his name, right? The battle damage being reflected would have only prolongued the inevitable, as with Barrel Behind the Door MBT could effectively no longer use any major burn effects since he only had 1600 LP, as the reflection from Barrel Behind the Door would kill him then. So basically MBT got his only win condition blocked by Cimo having Barrel, since he can no longer do burn damage. Did I mention that it's also a counter trap and thus Spell Speed 3, meaning it cannot be responded to by any card in MBT's deck, leaving no options to counter it while it also functions as a way for Cimo to stop MBT from building long chains? Plus he had not one, but two of them. So yeah, Game 2 was over anyway. That's why I said "minor misplays in Game 1 and 2" in my original message, because this one clearly didn't distort the outcome much, if at all.
1:30 Deck List / Breakdown
9:20 Duels
Blowing up that dog by effect still inflicts damage
I actually won a local tournament in like 2012 with ancient gear, cyber, gadget malefic mishmash lol
I love how Cimo tried to blow up the Marron, but I especially love how MBT also thought that him missing on Blowback was good for him. It's one thing for Cimo to not know the card even though he could take 3 seconds and read it, but how the fuck does MBT have the fucking card in his deck and still not know that destroying it other than through battle is GOOD for him?
So dimensional wall makes it so you would take battle damage, not effect damage yeah? But barrel behind the door makes it so when a card inflicts damage? Does that work how it works in the episode and it’s a case of old cards being dumb or am I dumb
I’m almost certain you can’t barrel behind the door Dimension Wall since it reflects battle damage.
Barrel Behind the Door doesn’t work on Dimension Wall, I’m pretty sure.
Dimension Wall itself doesn’t inflict damage to anyone, it’s not effect damage. It simply redirects the direct attack, so it’s like battle damage. It’s one of the reasons it’s played over Magic Cylinder in chain burn
The Ancient Gear deck is called Rusty Bolts
Why would you mallet the overload fusion away? That was chimeratech by using the on field machines
I'm a simple man. I see Ancient Gear? I click.
I dont care about the missplays and everything you two are just fun to watch after a long day of work. I love you two
barrel behind the door, the true burn card
Jank Tank for you both!
You should try a series where you duel using the big versions of popular duel links decks
Yall should both wear the jank tank next time for all yall pulled this episode XD
What happened to AshBlossom'sToeSniffer?
funny thing the tockens of ojama trio have 1000 def. the other thing is you can not activated the "chain" cards if there are 2 cards with the same name in the chain
Cimo should have maybe set his Gravity Bind because it was likely of MBT to have it, to disrupt chain strike or fortune
Can ANYONE tell me which video it was where MBT summon Necrofear with a Mystic tomato? They've mentioned it a couple times but I can't find it.
I lost to chain burn at locals and got so mad the police had to be called. My other matches for the day were final countdown and exodia, so everyone is lucky I didn't go on a murder spree.
Well at least you didn't have to deal with Destiny Board, Last Turn, Blasting the Ruins, or Magical Explosion. Although wasn't Prime Material Dragonaround at this time? If so, you shoudl've sided three, plus Exchange for Exodia, and Spell Cancellor/Magic Jammer for Final Countdown and hope your opponent doesn't draw it turn one.
Was Cyber Stein still at 3 in Cyberdark Impact format??
I have a feeling chain burn will be a recurring character in this series
Can't wait to see the Jeff Leonard special in one of the history series.
Cimos weakness/fear confirmed.
Threatening Roar!!!
Am i wrong? Why did Cimo put his overload fusion back in game 2? Isnt the point of the deck to play future fusion and then play the spell to summon an 8k+ machine to OTK? I know gravity bind was there but he had blowback in hand with a summon for turn also he was still drawing 2 cards for magical mallet
What 8k+ machine are you speaking of? The Overload Fusion would've helped him summon it, yes, cleared space for Fusion Fusion to resolve, BUT if you mean Chimerteach Overload Dragon or whateverthat bleeder is called, it would've blown itself up, so it wouldn't OTK anything. If you mean some other monster then sure he made a mega trashy play.
@@poisonedyoyo chimertech is what i mean and i didnt mean off future fusion, yes it blows itself up off that because it destroys FF, but if u overload it doesnt kill itself but it does kill the rest of his board...but in tandem with a backrow removal that is the point of this deck send your machines with FF then play Overload and attack for game 🤷🏻♂️
Cimoooooooo your videos are awesome you are the real one!
The Storm Scale is called the Storm scale for a reason. Though I guess in YGO it'd be a little more sane and called Chain scale. =P
Welcome to brick city population cimoo's opening hand in game 1