Tank Building: Italian Tanks
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
- The Italians were among the first five countries to begin production of tanks. They immediately left their mark in engineering history when they first implemented some new solutions, which subsequently became standard, in the FIAT 2000. The history of Italian tank building is complex and full of battles. This video will tell you about the country's most significant tanks and the peculiarities of the Italian engineers’ approach to the subject.
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Have you tried the Italian tanks in game already?
Yes, but i have question can you add an italian tank destoyers?? Thanks for answer.
yea!
Why did you write "Philippo" instead of "Filippo"?
or fiat 2000!!
This was really cool, but the projects and post-2ww part was really rushed, you could talked more about these moments.
Wargaming, now you are just teasing us. Implement the Fiat 2000 already!
AwesomeEpicGuys I love the fiat 2000 and was hoping they were going to add it :(
True!
Fiat 2000 is epic
let the trolling begin
Maybe premium someday.
The Italian army of WW2 fielded a large group of Self Propelled Guns and Assault gun Tank Destroyers. I hope that these get introduced into WOT.
Don't forget Itallian Wheelies. But I would rather see all ferrari's removed from the game, instead of more being added. Wheeled 'Tanks'/ Armored Cars are OP. Playing in another light tank is not possible anymore.
EDIT: Why? Because the EBR kills you with 3 HE shells whilst you cannot even hit the damn thing.
Don't underestimate those Tankettes, they were also armed with 20mm Solothurn cannon and they were often sent to intercept and destroy british supply convoys before they could reach their destination. They were so fast and small that even the convoy couldn't tell were they were shooting from.
What a chad riding the gun’s barrel @ 1:41
Just add the Fiat 2000 that doesn't affect stats, win rate and no repair cost to give more fun to everyone. So new players can farm on you.
First tank with a rotating turret? i remember in video of 'World of Tanks of French Tanks' did said that the Renault FT-17 was the first tank produced with a 360 degree traversing turret. so which one is the first?
2:19 omg did they really write Philippo XD
finally a very interesting documentory to watch, thank you.
Veri interesing video keep such videos coming nice to get some more info about tanks
"the Fiat 200 was Italy's first Mass produced tank" two were made
also the Renault FT was the first tank with a rotating turret
Are you trying to be funny? Because if you are you've failed miserably. This is a video for serious enthusiasts, not would-be comedians.
😂😂😂
finally a video that will silence those incompetents who continue to criticize the old Italian tanks, I do not want to insinuate that they were unstoppable machines, but simply they were not up to those of the allies, but not for this they were all disgusting
Great serie!!
Thanks for this part of history WOT EU!😀
Philippo?
Are you sure you wrote his name correctly? Because probably is Filippo...
indeed ... I am Italian, and we write F ... Not PH... So... His name should be written FILIPPO...
implement fiat 2000 into game
Nice video wg!
Damn nice historical video... :)
I love this series!!!
Interesting. Thanks
Tank you for italian sub!
Italy *_DID_* have a way to fight back and destroy the british heavy tanks, their tank destroyers.
By 1941 they had already the M40/41 75/18mm Semovente which fired HEAT rounds more than capable of penetrating 120mm of steel.
Not to forget standard anti tank guns and infantry armed with demolition charges^^
Lavrentivs
Reference to the Folgore?
Mostly just a reference to towed anti tank guns, which often is forgotten in tank vs. tank conversations =)
The standard Italian towed AT gun was a mere 47mm and not actually much of a threat...the Italian army never got anything like the PAK 40 or the Flak 88...
RealKull
Of course they didn't, because you heard that from the same idiots that say italians and french are only good at surrendering and that the allies won all because of the US?
Italy had a wide range of field guns, the most famous was their 65mm ones which could fire HEAT shells more than capable of confronting anything the allies has, a part from the seriously heavy stuff like the Churchill.
Italy had a much more powerful cannon that the Germans used: while they had the FlaK 36 8.8cm italy had their 90/53mm armament, with higher muzzle velocity and range than the 88 of a Tiger.
There were other field guns as well, like the 75/34 and another one with was pretty much comparable to the Pak 40 75mm, but the italian one shot italian-designed EP/EPS sounds (HESH and HEAT).
I really like Phiat tanks. Greetings phrom Phinland!
Had historians found the reason why the Cruiser, Crusader, Cromwell and Centaur tanks (so all the British medium tanks) had riveted armors as well? It was political? Production? The quality of steel available? The location of the steelworks? The capital "C"? Heck, The Matilda, that had cast turret, had been replaced by the Valentine that had riveted armor as well!
The explanation of this video is daft and dances around the issue. Much of the reason in both cases was cost and technological development. Neither nation had the industrial capacity to produce welded tanks on a mass scale. Welding was expensive and time would have to be taken to implement the technology both in the factories and on the drawing board was too long. Considering both nations always had a lack of tanks, the emphasis was on production using known and existing techniques which suited the small decentralised factories. Additionally both nations tanks were rather mediocre in general performance, upgrading to welding was low priority compared to upgrading reliability, firepower, armour or mobility.
On the subject of Matilda, it did have better armour implementation yet this was done awkwardly. Matilda was a hard tank to make and needed specialist production. This is reflected when comparing the number of Matildas built to the number of Valentines.
Implement italian TDs, please.
That was interesting.
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everyone's talking about how they want the fiat 2000 in the game (note: i have looked it up and yes, it looks fucking awesome) but where's the love for the L3 tank? i demand tank equality >:(
For a Italian see talk the history of our nation make us very glorius
Thanks for remember us WG 🤗
We made the FIAT 2000, how's it possible that we fkup up tank design during WW2.. Besdies nice video!
First of all, the FIAT 2000 wasn't built until after WWI, so its value as a tank is fairly disputable. The FIAT 3000 was a much more competent tank design for the period as it sought to be a direct improvement over the FT. As for the tank design in WWII, the thing to realise is that most tanks encoutered by the Allies and most of those chassis for support vehicles were developed either in the 1920's or 1930's in a country where the industrial base was barely large enough to keep up with even the peacetime demands of the Regio Esercito. Their efforts were further muddled by the capricious nature of Mussolini's fascist regime. With their attention constantly shifting to the next big propaganda project, the grunts tended to get short-shrift. Italy had some people looking towards modern tactics but they never had the same sort of lucky breaks to get their point across as someone like Guderian had. By the time that it was broadly realised that Italy was far behind in terms of tank design, it had not enough production power, raw materials or political clout to shift and gear up for large scale production of modern designs. They attempted to help combat this issue by upgrading what designs were already in production and by diving into tank destroyers, but again it was a matter of too little too late.
Please make the fiat 2000 i will give you my money if you do!
Interesting that Russian historians say the Sahriano was based on Russian tanks but it has an obvious similarity to the Crusader tank and British historians say it was based on the Crusader; Wikipedia says both were important, but it mentions the BT tanks and anyway both were based on the Christie suspension
But the Sahariano wasn't.
As you can see at 19:52 the Suspensions of the Sahariano weren't Christie, but a torsion bar sprung bogie. The system was identical to that of the L3/38 (the last evolution of the L3/33 tankette) only with bigger wheels. axistanksworldwarii.devhub.com/img/upload/uyukuyk.jpg notice how the central cylinder, that connects the two wheels of the train, turns around the torsion bar that's the little cylinder above, twisting it i.imgur.com/fFUOTuF.jpg
Italians, like Germans, didn't like the Christie scheme, because it widened the tank and was more difficult to service. Italians didn't like the German torsion bar system either, because it occupied space into the hull, so both the L6 /40 and the Carro Celere used torsion bars, but, connecting it to the bogie, they needed only four of them.
I'm amazed this video load properly ..... #FiatCrap
Without the semoventi, the history of Italian tanks in WWII appears to be pretty truncated. They had been by far the most sucessful designs.
BTW, the C1 having been "developed in cooperation with German companies" and being "based on the Leopard II" is complete bullshit. The only relevant piece of German tecnology in it is the ZF transmission.
Just a quick question if the Renault had a rotating cupola how is possible that the Italian tank was first?
Thank for italian subtitle
The picture of vickers mk E is from Finlands Parola tank museum.
What do you mean the italians didnt use giant Pizzas for their tanks???
14:18 "Light tank of the GLA!"
I heard that visibility was better in these? How much better really?
I can see how using those in El Alamein would be desasterous. They look more fit for supporting infantry in fortifying/assaulting compounds and urban areas.... and traversing places that are hard for most other tanks of course.
Next video
Leopard 1 and its history
Can you do a video? Pls
Gajin, i hope your watching this.
I WANT MY ITALIAN TANKS
i love them ...
why TF is this video so addictive
I think you could at a later date put in the Tankete's with the most powerful weapons they used the M11/39 to then branch of to a TD line. Good job though wargaming looking forward to the Polish tree also.
Italian tanks look cool and i will get them all for my ps4 version. Also glory to the tankettes!
I used to play in tankettes in the videogame called "Heroes and Generals"... I full loaded it with anti tank mines and I rushed the enemy flanks ... Laying mines on bridges and similar bottle-neck locations to make the opponents' tanks exploding by running into my minefields ... I often ended the matches with people trolling at me bad words because of my tactics... lol lol lol They were often caught into those minefields I layied down and their "kill streaks" were sent to hell !!! lol lol lol So they always had to restart again and again the killstreaks that allowed them to level up !!! lol lol lol
İtalya'n tanklarında beni çeken harika seslendirme ve melez doldurma sistemi.
good
*As always, the issue began when Hitler wrongly believed that all of his military adventures would be relatively volant and bloodless affairs. With this mistaken thinking, Hitler began the war a full six years prematurely. Hitler's agreement with Mussolini was for the Axis Powers not to begin any major military actions before Spring or early-Summer 1945. Mussolini's Italian industrial military plans and import needs had been fully laid-out for Hitler and the OKW. Apparently, neither cared, as Mussolini's quite detailed plans clearly revealed that the Italian military would not be fully marshalled until 1945, at the earliest but, Hitler went ahead with the war regardless. Had Mussolini not been worried about missing-out on the Italian share of the spoils of war and not cast his lot with Nazi-Germany, remained neutral - playing all sides against one another, Italy would have been able to benefit in many different ways and survived the war relatively unscathed. Mussolini had no requirement, or the military ability, to enter the war on Germany's side in 1940 because Hitler had failed to notify his Italian military partner of any of his military intentions; not in Poland, The Lowlands or France.*
19:50 italians had their own trophies of t34
10:53 Parola tank museum! TORILLE
Wheeled vehicles? Did someone mentioned wheeled vehicles? Maybe in future of WoT, WG? :D
23:39
Very unnecessary fact: That photo on 10:53 was taken from Parola Armor Museum (Parolan panssarimuseo) in Finland.
Quando sarà la data di uscita dell'aggiornamento?
i carri italiani sono già presenti in gioco
l'aggiornamento 1.0.1 è uscito giovedì
Release date? On ps4
when would world of armoured car come out
we need the fiat 2000!!!!!!
I will give you ALL my money for that tank!!!! WG please
Y los subtítulos en español? :(
Juan Aresa Learn English
No, troesma el quiere los sub en español ¿Esta mal maquinola?
Ya no van a poner nada más en español, ni subtitulos ni atenderte en español en los tickets del juego desde el 1 mayo. Lo ponen en su pajina los estafadores estos.
Juan Aresa Ya esta en español.
:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
the inquisitive language...
the persecutive tongue of heresy
derp
hungarians drove it into the soviet union xD 9:58, never knew that
FIAT 2000! NOW!
but where is the 75/18
ADD THE FIAT 2000 and the cv33
Imagine if Italian tanks had Lamborghini and Ferrari engines...
Boi, V12s would be a thing again
Leopard 2 has a 47 liter V12 engine if I recall correctly. =)
Lavrentivs it’s an... hold on...
“MTU MB 873 Ka-501 liquid-cooled V12 Twin-Turbo diesel engine cranking at 1,479hp at 2,600 rpm”
not only was the first to use the motorized but also the aviation
Hate that when new feature comes only one nation tanks.. now they are dominating battles.. not fair wg not fair..
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Why they wrote the name of Filippo using the PH (then... Writing "Philippo" !!!) ?!? In Italy we use the F not PH to express and write particles like FIL - FAL - FUL and so on...
;-; damn where is the pizza I want my pizza panzer I must have my pizza panzer
left game some time ago, heard that there is new tech tree, so i updated my game and went in to look at them. Hapyy to see italian tanks, tought about making my way up and keep playing game again, but u know what hapened? nothing new ... - Went on my FIRST GAME in new italian tank rank 1 - first game ever and i received 9 /12 GOLD AMMO hits !! freaking 9 of 12 in tier 1 !!! so I see that real issues never changes in game and this game is absolute - pay 2 win or play only SPG...
WG is working on gold ammo
maybe remove this ammo or change its characteristics (more penetration but less damage)
you can see this change on World of Tanks Blitz
That was not a Vickers Mk. E
That was a T-26
Next romanian tank history?
bushido' 1998 excuse me what?
marcoadmiralis _ an armoured gypsy wagon
John Doe i didnt think those spanish speaking slavic gypsies built "tanks"
marcoadmiralis _ firstly Romanians do not speak Spanish.
secondly Gypsies are not Slavic they originated in india and by the way neither do Romanians they have more in common with Italians ethically than Slavs.
and thirdly I was joking in reference to the large amount of gypsies that come from Romania.
John Doe i fcking know it do do you think i am that stupid? Those are simply a few words to describe them
build em better than they did irl
How can you say that the Fiat 2000 was the first mass produced Italian tank? Only two prototypes were built and the first didn't even have and armor and was made out of wood!
Matteo Di Giovanni WG spewing bullshit as usual!
İtalian tanks had a good gameplay
THE BEST TANKETTES AND TANKS I'VE EVER SEEN IN VIDEOGAMES ARE THOSE USABLE IN "HEROES AND GENERALS"... GIVE THAT GAME A TRY AND SEE I AM RIGHT...
The Italians surrendered in Tunisia in 1943, not in libya.
What happens when you duct tape 4 Fiat 500c?
We need FerrariTank
bito caras work in progress, but I'm afraid it will have a heavy duty engine from Lamborghini, but who knows in which way Ferrari will be part of the project ...
It'd be nice if you could add them in WOT blitz
I keep waiting to see Anchovy and her girls
Is the Vickers MK. E a Russian tank
Romanian tanks in the future? Research has been made and a lot of new Romanian tanks have been found, enough for a full tech tree.
Im shure you will keep making up more new imaginary italian premium tanks
LOL General Martini
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Lots of historical inaccuracies in this video
LoL
Ariete C1 is NOT based on the Leo 2
Subtitle IN FRENCH PLEASE 😭
dorian joaquim ouais ils en ont pas mis😢😭
RIRI les français regardent aussi ces vidéo 😭
dorian joaquim et oui mais je suis suisse mais je compatis avec les francais 😂
TheMysterious Unknow je connais l'anglais j'ai une très bonne prononciation mais écouter tout le long en anglais je comprend pas tout et je pense pas que toi aussi vu déjà tes fautes d'hortographe en français...
RIRI merci pour ta réponse ^^
paper tanks
OTTOMAN EMPIRE 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
Did you say Italian...tanks?! You mean a bullet hole tin cans 😂
you know it's bad when the M4 is better
United Brony and when is better against light infantry and light tanks or when it burns in a few seconds after being hit by a 75 mm ?
noirchat138 , please elaborate
United Brony the M4 is a light medium, the idea was to have a decent tank than the M3 Stuart as a Cavalry and a better tank than the M3 Lee/Grant as infantry support, so it is perfect against light infantry and light tanks or armoured cars but not so good against serious medium tank like a Panzer IV or even a Matilda, cause the slow 75mm howitzer is not good for punching. About the catching fire is because the M4 used a light armour and a light airplane engine so it has a very flammable fuel, Sherman were notorious to become glowing red after they went on fire
noirchat138 , ok in that case it is somewhat a good choice however it still could've been improved in many aspects , the M4 is really meh , a good medium tank would be the M4A3E4 would be good or even the firefly is better
United Brony Italian tanks were a mix of choices, low resources, what we could get...
About russian tank history
Put the L3 into your game you cowards.
There is lots of bad history in this video
I not love italian tanks because italian tanks very strong maybe need a nerf
All of this false equivalency between UK and Italian tanks - ridiculous! The British tanks were MUCH better.
When evenly matched, or even in slight numerical inferiority, the Italian tank formations could hold their own and win vs the British ones (see Bir el Gubi for example).
LOL - no they could not. Those rare occasions when the Italians stood and fought were only when backed by German firepower.
I see that you didn't check the example.
Yeah it took until late November of 1941 for the Italians to beat the British - lol. Meanwhile, what had been happening for the two prior years of war?
Are you able to point a battle when the Italian tanks were evenly matched with the British, or had only a slight numerical inferiority, before that?
I can. El Mechili, 24 January 1941. 145 British tanks vs 129 Tanks and 25 tankettes for the italians, the Brits lost 7 tank, the Italians 9, then the battle stalled for two days, until Graziani ordered the retreat (El Mechili was recaptured by the Ariete division on 7 apr.). It doesn't seem that one-sided, does it?
Let me tell a joke
Italian tanks
ME262MKI Yeah lol
ME262MKI now the Italian army is not to be underestimated :)
ME262MKI And anyway, as the video says, not all Italian tanks were disgusting
Haha haha
They are decent at best against the allies and they made too few.Even Japan had more tanks than Italy.
Italian tanks have two gears foward and three backwards.
ivan bregar Do you think you are funny? I have already seen such stupid joke one hundred times.
Giloup92 Its a joke bruh
ivan bregar Yes. A stupid joke by a stupid guy.
Those are the french ones... italian ones have armor made of hardened pasta
Just about the number of your neurons.