If there was ever any question as to whether TheCubicle has more allegiance to the manufacturers that supply their products or the people who purchase them - this video makes it abundantly clear. TheCubicle values community feedback, so much that they will be a bold mouthpiece to deliver that feedback in as harshly honest a manner necessary. Could not be happier to support this cubing retailer.
I can testify this even further. In one stream Phil went from "The RS3 Super V2 is worth it" to "I don't know if it's worth the price". I understand him: as long as the cube is good, he'll recommend it. It's the pricing that's difficult to justify.
I think they named it rs3m is because it has some rs3m features, like the square thing in centre pieces. And they showed the same features can appear in budget and premium cube.
@@DoctorLaw that further blurs the lines between budget and flagship cubes, such as wrm 19/20 and gts3m. They shouldn't slap budget labels on their flagships even if they have budget traits. Really glad wrm19 and GTS3 M are still available for sale
I think I prefer more customizability on ONE cube for a tad higher price than 4 cubes with slight differences. Like magnet strength adjusting on the corners. Make a moyu version of the Tornado V3 tensioning and not releasing a new 3x3 every 3rd month 😅 I barely got my V9 before the Super V2 was announced 😂
With how good and affordable the prior rs3m releases were and the ys3m, it just makes it hard to justify these prices. I also wish they would just do two versions when it comes to their premium flagship releases, both ball core, one with springs and one with maglev. I understand having a stripped down version when it comes to the budget lineups, but the maglev with no ball core seems pointless every release.
I own the maglev v9 and I'm loving it. I didn't get the BC because i prefer frosted, and even with all the unneeded options they gave us, the finishing wasn't one of them. Feels much snappier than the Tv3. Never tried a Gan 12 pro, but I'm also not dropping $85 to find out. I'm super happy so far...
When the other store compared the pieces of the Super RS3 V2 and WV9, I cant help but think MoYu went Dr. Frankenstein and made monsters out of their recent cubes.
I have the v9 with both the ball core and maglev and honestly up until this day I still think the tornado v3 pioneer is better. It costs less and manages to feel as nice as a gan cube if not better. (My opinion)
I agree. I had a Gan cube, but it was ridiculously loose. When I got the Tornado V3, I fell in love immediately. It felt so similar, and maybe felt even better
Moyu is increasing its price on its cubes just like what GAN does so I think moyu think they are now the apple of cubes but maybe its because of increasing prices on petrol or oil
Oh my Gosh I realized that a few days before this video was released. I went to the cubicle and I saw Cubes. I don’t know what they were but I got first turns from a cube that technically wasn’t released so that’s cool I guess.😅
i really wonder how moyu wants this cube to fit into the market. it can’t be an rs3 successor because it’s too pricey and it can’t be a v9 successor because that cube just came out. hopefully they can realize that it’ll probably do them best to take a step back and work on something that people actually want.
@@Drizzz32 interesting, that's definitely not the response im seeing. sure it'll sell, and maybe that's all that matters to moyu. I guess I'm just wondering how they'll market the cube given it's in a budget line but costs $50, and in some aspects is outdated.
Those pieces look very similar to a GTS2 or 3 especially with the texture difference. A little interesting, I know that moyu has character but that’s a little bit too close to something we already have
It would be great to see TheCubicle dona thorough comparison of the highway robbery also called Super RS3M V2 line and the original Super RS3M line, model to model, piece to piece, to show what, if any (and I strongly doubt there are any), design differences there might be between the V1 and the V2... not that that's any excuse for Moyu's more than doubling the price of what are essentially the same cubes 🤯😢🤕
I agree. The original super rs3m and this V2 honestly seem the same. The original ball core and the v2 has a $27.00 price difference which is HUGE. The keep releasing the same cubes with the same dual adjustment system. MoYu I think may lose customers. If people want to spend almost $50 on a cube they can buy a Gan on sale.
Both of my Ball-core Super RS3M v1's have "dragon-scale" (or whatever Moyu calls the pattern) on the inner faces of the corner pieces and on the inner sides of the edge pieces where they meet the centers... I'm guessing that is exactly the same as the waaay over-priced v2 So... are there *ANY* differences besides a UV coating? It sucks that they are forcing that on any customers, I dont want it, and certainly don't want to have to pay for it...
Wait... You are telling me they are already releasing MORE cubes? They already release 2 freaking flagships this year! Was their slam dunk on the YS3 M and WRM V9 not enough? How many more cubes are they going to release this year?
my tinfoil hat theory is that moyu is raising the price floor of the 'budget' line of cubes so they can justify higher prices of future flagships and get more margins out of their products.
As someone who has been very into speedcubing for quite a while and has stayed up to date with all the newest releases, this is the first time where I have put off buying a new cube due to being confused about which cube is best for me. At the moment I am considering one of either the Ball Core YS3M, Weilong V9 BC, RS3 Super V2 Standard or the RS3 Super V2 Ball core. If anyone could help me out with your opinions if you have tried all the cubes because the only one of the four I have tried is the YS3M. Thanks!
From the vid, I feel like RS3 V2 BC is just WRM V9 2.0 that addresses some issues with V9, just that Moyu didn't want to hurt V9 sales because it's fairly new so they just decided to release it under different name. I'd say just go with RS3 V2 BC unless you prefer the faster and more flexible V9, or YS3M if you prefer a blockier cube with less chance to corner twist (V9 has a minor corner twisting problem)
GAN and their fanboys' blind allegiance happened... MoYu is testing the waters with this pricing. We, the cubing community as a whole, need this test to fail... Get the 2022 Super if you want budget or the WRMv9 Ball Core if you want the best flagship on the market
I have several friends who said "Nope! The WeiLong V9 is enough." or "RIP Budget Line". If we compare MoYu to Gan, the former is still "value-oriented"... which I think what MoYu wants people to think. But we compare MoYu with MoYu. They can't shift out focus away from that.
@@thesphyrth that's just my point, though. The more people buy this the more we can expect to pay for MoYu's next release and their next and etc etc... We gotta put our foot down here n now n say we're not gonna stand for that predatory price model.
Errrr, where does the ball core RS3M Super pre V2 slot in? I paid like $13 from Temu for one and being a rook I don't know squat but it's fast as f, luxurious, maybe not as stable as my RS3 M 2020 w/xtra mag kit but as I said I don't know enough to chirp yet. I'm 70 and can still rip on guitar so I'm trying to use cubing to help with dexterity - and the noodle. Put it this way..I'm a heck of a lot faster on my SG than I am on my Moyu! 👀 🎸 (ps shouldn't there be a cube emoji by now?)
Please compare WRM V9 Ballcore vs Super RS3M V2 Ballcore thoroughly. I have wrm ballcore v9 and definitely is better than wrm maglev v9 by fare. I’d like to know is it worth to purchase Super RS3M V2 ballcore over to wrm ballcore v9 ? Thank you very much ❤❤❤❤
I bought the ball core version, it will be my first UV coated cube, do you guys know if I must avoid cleaning it with alcohol? It's the standard procedure for me
They probably sold way too much ball core ones over the maglev ones. That's the reason they wanted to get the high end product less interesting when comparing their mid tier product
I have a question which cube should I buy I don't like the feeling of the rs3m 2020 but I like the feeling of moyu melong 3x3 but I don't main it because of magnets and stability issues
MoYu has completely oversaturated the market with its own cubes. This is too confusing, I’m not going to set any world records so I’m just going to stick with the WRM v9 for the next year or two
Moyu did a great job making the SUPER RS3M V2 but the price is rly dissapointing it went up so much and I cant afford to buy one of that because its price went so much high that it cost 1k here in the Philippines some other cubers did buy it but I just cant im rly sad and dissapointed for the price because I cant keep up with the hype😥
0:44 I had to replay this part a few times because I could swear I heard "bomb core," which I think should be the next WCA event. Imagine the kind of attention it would bring to cubing to introduce an event that, if you fail to pull off your solve within a set timeframe and/or keep the cube stable enough throughout the solve, would straight-up blow your God damn fingers off. Or maybe just beep or play some kind of sound effect if you want to be super boring and dumb.
Super V2 is 33 and the Diansheng Magnetic Gigaminx is 37. It just doesn't make sense, even if you account for UV coat, there's no way they can justify this.
@@fattyrat42 I was talking about direct prices not the US retailer MSRP. And the 33 I mentioned is the maglev+ballcore version, so it's also reduced down from the 48 mentioned in the video. So yes they actually are that close in value, and the Super V2 is clearly unjustified. I feel the reason they do it is so that they can continue moving stock off all the old puzzles still given their lower price, as if they released the V2 at a competitive price, all of that old stock would never sell ever again without running large discounts on them.
Moyu really went from a $4 budget cube to a $50 flahship in the same series
Cool
@@LenaCogatok
Yeeeeaaa
Me who still has the MF3RS 2017 !
@@farhantanvir01crazy! Shows how good of a cube it is
If there was ever any question as to whether TheCubicle has more allegiance to the manufacturers that supply their products or the people who purchase them - this video makes it abundantly clear. TheCubicle values community feedback, so much that they will be a bold mouthpiece to deliver that feedback in as harshly honest a manner necessary. Could not be happier to support this cubing retailer.
I can testify this even further. In one stream Phil went from "The RS3 Super V2 is worth it" to "I don't know if it's worth the price".
I understand him: as long as the cube is good, he'll recommend it. It's the pricing that's difficult to justify.
I love how Phil says “bong core”
Next hit music genre? Phil is just a predictor of the future.
Idk why it bothers me
I like how corner-core magnets became such a normal thing in such a short amount of time
Moyu should've given these cubes a different name. Rs3m should've stayed budget
I think they named it rs3m is because it has some rs3m features, like the square thing in centre pieces. And they showed the same features can appear in budget and premium cube.
I agree
@@DoctorLaw that further blurs the lines between budget and flagship cubes, such as wrm 19/20 and gts3m. They shouldn't slap budget labels on their flagships even if they have budget traits.
Really glad wrm19 and GTS3 M are still available for sale
@@DoctorLawthey should've named it something like rs3x because it has some features from the rs3m but it's more expensive
I agree, the whole point of Mofang Jioshi is decent 3x3s at a cheap price, and that started with the their first cube the Mf3
Thank you, Phil, I love when you go into such details. Very professional breakdown.
Phil, I so appreciate your honesty in advertising. What a rare thing in a super hyped world.
"How many cubes do you want to release in this year?"
Moyu: Yes!
i love how he says "bong core"
I think I prefer more customizability on ONE cube for a tad higher price than 4 cubes with slight differences. Like magnet strength adjusting on the corners. Make a moyu version of the Tornado V3 tensioning and not releasing a new 3x3 every 3rd month 😅 I barely got my V9 before the Super V2 was announced 😂
I like how moyu doesn't make one cube with 12 adjustment features, but instead multiple cubes in one release.
I feel like it was a missed opportunity to highlight the most purple cube Moyu has made in years because of the capped design! Beautiful cube.
It sounded like Phil was saying "Bong core" which was slightly distracting while listening to the video while cubing.
With how good and affordable the prior rs3m releases were and the ys3m, it just makes it hard to justify these prices. I also wish they would just do two versions when it comes to their premium flagship releases, both ball core, one with springs and one with maglev. I understand having a stripped down version when it comes to the budget lineups, but the maglev with no ball core seems pointless every release.
no more budget cubes for you haha - Moyu 2023
I own the maglev v9 and I'm loving it. I didn't get the BC because i prefer frosted, and even with all the unneeded options they gave us, the finishing wasn't one of them.
Feels much snappier than the Tv3. Never tried a Gan 12 pro, but I'm also not dropping $85 to find out.
I'm super happy so far...
gan 12 m maglev is 63, leap is 50.
why would you pay $26 for something you can get for $15?
When the other store compared the pieces of the Super RS3 V2 and WV9, I cant help but think MoYu went Dr. Frankenstein and made monsters out of their recent cubes.
The music at the beginning is lit!!!
Cant wait to get my hands on one!
i swear, every time there is a ball-core cube, and phil is reviewing it, he says "bong-core" xD
Hey i was wondering if you guys had replacment pieces my wrm 2021's blue red yellow corner broke and now all thats holding it are the magnets
I have the v9 with both the ball core and maglev and honestly up until this day I still think the tornado v3 pioneer is better. It costs less and manages to feel as nice as a gan cube if not better. (My opinion)
I agree. I had a Gan cube, but it was ridiculously loose. When I got the Tornado V3, I fell in love immediately. It felt so similar, and maybe felt even better
I like the Gan feel much more
Moyu is increasing its price on its cubes just like what GAN does so I think moyu think they are now the apple of cubes but maybe its because of increasing prices on petrol or oil
Oh my Gosh I realized that a few days before this video was released. I went to the cubicle and I saw Cubes. I don’t know what they were but I got first turns from a cube that technically wasn’t released so that’s cool I guess.😅
i really wonder how moyu wants this cube to fit into the market. it can’t be an rs3 successor because it’s too pricey and it can’t be a v9 successor because that cube just came out. hopefully they can realize that it’ll probably do them best to take a step back and work on something that people actually want.
We want this. This is one of the best if not the best cube on the market rn
@@Drizzz32 interesting, that's definitely not the response im seeing. sure it'll sell, and maybe that's all that matters to moyu. I guess I'm just wondering how they'll market the cube given it's in a budget line but costs $50, and in some aspects is outdated.
@@stoneps Considering how much negative feedback they're getting on pricing Moyu is likely to lower the prices by $5 soon
My guess is this is WRM V9 2.0 that addresses some V9 issues, but they didn't want to kill the V9 sales yet so they released it under different name.
@@stoneps its £28.99 my guy not $50 and i would for sure buy this ofc ppl will buy it just look at gans sales
I have the V9. Ball Core UV. I did not have to make any adjustments. It's my Main. It's Amazing.
Those pieces look very similar to a GTS2 or 3 especially with the texture difference. A little interesting, I know that moyu has character but that’s a little bit too close to something we already have
I wont be surpised if a new moyu cube comes😬
Moyu is addicted to the colour turquoise colour in their flagship cubes
Are bong core cubes legal?
Can you review shengshou gigaminx v2 guys?
I already subscribe :D
Can i ask? What do u compare maglev or standard?
The ball core version costs around $33 here in my country
It would be great to see TheCubicle dona thorough comparison of the highway robbery also called Super RS3M V2 line and the original Super RS3M line, model to model, piece to piece, to show what, if any (and I strongly doubt there are any), design differences there might be between the V1 and the V2...
not that that's any excuse for Moyu's more than doubling the price of what are essentially the same cubes 🤯😢🤕
I agree. The original super rs3m and this V2 honestly seem the same. The original ball core and the v2 has a $27.00 price difference which is HUGE. The keep releasing the same cubes with the same dual adjustment system. MoYu I think may lose customers. If people want to spend almost $50 on a cube they can buy a Gan on sale.
Both of my Ball-core Super RS3M v1's have "dragon-scale" (or whatever Moyu calls the pattern) on the inner faces of the corner pieces and on the inner sides of the edge pieces where they meet the centers...
I'm guessing that is exactly the same as the waaay over-priced v2
So... are there *ANY* differences besides a UV coating?
It sucks that they are forcing that on any customers, I dont want it, and certainly don't want to have to pay for it...
Wait... You are telling me they are already releasing MORE cubes? They already release 2 freaking flagships this year! Was their slam dunk on the YS3 M and WRM V9 not enough? How many more cubes are they going to release this year?
my tinfoil hat theory is that moyu is raising the price floor of the 'budget' line of cubes so they can justify higher prices of future flagships and get more margins out of their products.
Phil, we saw you get that e perm
I think Moyu should do what Tornado did. Instead of standard, maglev, ballcore maglev, they should replace maglev with ball core (with springs).
for sure
they kinda did with the v9 special edition but it should be the standard to have those 3 versions
i can already see a £60+ premium moyu cube coming
The super weilong is 90 bucks
Hallo,can you Tell me Why my order don’t just came out of America(it tell me it will come in 2 weeks and is the 3 week)in needs to come in romania
Is cubicle store has access to India??
That drawing should be Phil cubes' stickers
Must be cold in the studio. 🥶
If you have enough money to buy the ball core at this point, just get the tornado v3 which is way better for the price point
definitely
and if youre planning go spend that much on 3x3s you could also buy the standard super v1 (or even standard ys3m) as a secondary cube
Is the v9 a good cube for angstrom? I love the feel of the angstrom ys3 m
As someone who has been very into speedcubing for quite a while and has stayed up to date with all the newest releases, this is the first time where I have put off buying a new cube due to being confused about which cube is best for me. At the moment I am considering one of either the Ball Core YS3M, Weilong V9 BC, RS3 Super V2 Standard or the RS3 Super V2 Ball core. If anyone could help me out with your opinions if you have tried all the cubes because the only one of the four I have tried is the YS3M. Thanks!
From the vid, I feel like RS3 V2 BC is just WRM V9 2.0 that addresses some issues with V9, just that Moyu didn't want to hurt V9 sales because it's fairly new so they just decided to release it under different name.
I'd say just go with RS3 V2 BC unless you prefer the faster and more flexible V9, or YS3M if you prefer a blockier cube with less chance to corner twist (V9 has a minor corner twisting problem)
get uv ys3m trust me i cant get enough of it
"Speaking of BALLZ, this video is sponsored by manscaped"
GAN and their fanboys' blind allegiance happened... MoYu is testing the waters with this pricing. We, the cubing community as a whole, need this test to fail... Get the 2022 Super if you want budget or the WRMv9 Ball Core if you want the best flagship on the market
I have several friends who said "Nope! The WeiLong V9 is enough." or "RIP Budget Line".
If we compare MoYu to Gan, the former is still "value-oriented"... which I think what MoYu wants people to think.
But we compare MoYu with MoYu. They can't shift out focus away from that.
@@thesphyrth that's just my point, though. The more people buy this the more we can expect to pay for MoYu's next release and their next and etc etc... We gotta put our foot down here n now n say we're not gonna stand for that predatory price model.
Errrr, where does the ball core RS3M Super pre V2 slot in? I paid like $13 from Temu for one and being a rook I don't know squat but it's fast as f, luxurious, maybe not as stable as my RS3 M 2020 w/xtra mag kit but as I said I don't know enough to chirp yet. I'm 70 and can still rip on guitar so I'm trying to use cubing to help with dexterity - and the noodle. Put it this way..I'm a heck of a lot faster on my SG than I am on my Moyu! 👀 🎸 (ps shouldn't there be a cube emoji by now?)
Also like should get a cube where the caps pop off when you trie to take out a peace
even with the price increases, Moyu cubes still have a lot more value than Gan cubes
Scale of 1-10, how hard would it be to do a mod where you replace the Ballcore’s teal plastic with the Maglev’s purple plastic? I really like purple.
Last time i was this early the world record was above 4 seconds
So, which is worth it for me to buy?..wrm maglev 2021 or super rs3 v2 standard?.. because i like purple internal
It’s only a matter of time before the ys3m v2 comes out….
Edit: never mind, they just released a limited edition weilong 😑
Yea, and then it will be a buget cube
Me India se hu kia me order kar sakte hu
Can you recommend guys,? This standard or tv3 flagship??
The real question is: has Steven Un-MagLev the BC Version of this cube and if he did then how does it feel? 💀
Please compare WRM V9 Ballcore vs Super RS3M V2 Ballcore thoroughly.
I have wrm ballcore v9 and definitely is better than wrm maglev v9 by fare.
I’d like to know is it worth to purchase Super RS3M V2 ballcore over to wrm ballcore v9 ?
Thank you very much
❤❤❤❤
I bought the ball core version, it will be my first UV coated cube, do you guys know if I must avoid cleaning it with alcohol? It's the standard procedure for me
I think I might get the v2
They probably sold way too much ball core ones over the maglev ones. That's the reason they wanted to get the high end product less interesting when comparing their mid tier product
as a person who is getting there first speed cube but knowing CFOP2 look should i get the standard vision
Maybe the moyu adjustment system is the different cubes...
I have a question which cube should I buy I don't like the feeling of the rs3m 2020 but I like the feeling of moyu melong 3x3 but I don't main it because of magnets and stability issues
is the ys3m not relavent anymore?
absolutely insane prices. I'd never pay that for an RS3 cube.
the rs3m v2 is bigger than the ys3m??
Should you get this cube?
Short Answer: No
Long Answer: Nooooo
Performance is not up to the standard of other Moyu cubes released this past year.
The performance is definitely up to par, it’s my new main
I don’t think UV coat costs that much, there are diy UV vids on yt and they seem to be cheaper
Link plsss
I got the super rs3m v2 (purple one) from the cubicle as a £25 mystery cube
Moyu is hopefully not getting greedy like GAN.
How about the tornado v3
what are the ingredients for mystic?
Does super v2 have auto alignment
Do you guys know what the brand is of the magnets used in the rs3m super, some stuff happened and one of my magnets fell out and got lost
The og rs3m 2020....
What is a Bong core
MoYu has completely oversaturated the market with its own cubes. This is too confusing, I’m not going to set any world records so I’m just going to stick with the WRM v9 for the next year or two
Dang, I miss when the rs3m was a budget cube
Also I don’t know if the super rs3m v1 is better then a the tornado v3
Moyu did a great job making the SUPER RS3M V2 but the price is rly dissapointing it went up so much and I cant afford to buy one of that because its price went so much high that it cost 1k here in the Philippines some other cubers did buy it but I just cant im rly sad and dissapointed for the price because I cant keep up with the hype😥
Imagine a weilong v9 v2
0:44
I had to replay this part a few times because I could swear I heard "bomb core," which I think should be the next WCA event. Imagine the kind of attention it would bring to cubing to introduce an event that, if you fail to pull off your solve within a set timeframe and/or keep the cube stable enough throughout the solve, would straight-up blow your God damn fingers off.
Or maybe just beep or play some kind of sound effect if you want to be super boring and dumb.
i am 100% sure, moyu will make a cube with adjustable magnets, a zs3m ( jk ) for like 60 dolars
I like the chart
The standart version kinda looks like a Gan
In the UK the V2 BC is 28.99 and the v9 BC is 32.99😅
Ikr
The name of a budget cube and the price of a flagship cube. In what universe does that make sense. MoYu pls.
Does anybody here know what springs you should use when unmagleving moyu cubes?
They just buy a standard variant and take out its springs. I'm not even sure if you can buy them separately.
Oh ok
Almost 50 dollars and still no magnet adjustment
am i the only one that hears Phil say "bam core' ?
Hello les petits gens, comment ça va ? La forme ?
50$ and not the possibility to set the axis distance like in the other flagships :(
Moyu went from what I want to buy to what I want. And I don't like it this way what has happened to this brand?
Ball core❌ Bong core✅
MY RESPECT FOR REGULAR SUPER RS3M SERIES>>>>>>>>>.
8:35
Super V2 is 33 and the Diansheng Magnetic Gigaminx is 37. It just doesn't make sense, even if you account for UV coat, there's no way they can justify this.
last time i checked diansheng gigaminx was 60$
@@fattyrat42 I was talking about direct prices not the US retailer MSRP. And the 33 I mentioned is the maglev+ballcore version, so it's also reduced down from the 48 mentioned in the video. So yes they actually are that close in value, and the Super V2 is clearly unjustified. I feel the reason they do it is so that they can continue moving stock off all the old puzzles still given their lower price, as if they released the V2 at a competitive price, all of that old stock would never sell ever again without running large discounts on them.
@@MangoTangoFox ok thanks 👍
Still waiting for a Moyu Cube with adjustable magnets.
haha lmao true tho