Why would they trade Keegan when he brings exactly what the Kings need more size, 3&D, and size. Keegan has had a long slump it happens. He’s still potentially a knockdown shooter and lockdown defender with mid post skills.
Especially with 2 defense minded guards in keon and devin to cover the elite guards....so keagan doesnt have to. Keagan just needs to find his scoring self again.
Keegan and Huerter losing their shooting at the same time then getting it back at the same time as well isn't a coincidence. The only writing on the wall is Doug makes them better
they dont know what they're talking about, most of these media-tards are fair weather-band wagon critics and fans..it's like they're discussing as "Monday Morning Quarterback", if you even understand what that means.
What credibility does Sam Amick have left after he shamed Vivek into extending Mike Brown and insisted the organization keep Mike Brown despite many players apparently wanting a new coach
@@d.9258 You think its more likely im a billionaire tech tycoon on a burner account, rather than a fan who dislikes false narratives being pushed and 20 million wasted which could have been used to improve the team?
You have to think about the present and future of the team. We don't need Fox anymore and is a ball stopper. Do you ever see him pass the ball to Huerter, Murray, Lyles? I mean thats his job to find them in their spots. There's also a problem with one too many guards. Monk is on a favorable contract is better for the team especially with Domas. And both Keon and Carter are cheap long term deals. Fox is taking up shots from Heurter, Murray and Lyles and is hurting their confidence as well as ball movement. @@d.9258
You have to think about the present and future of the team. We don't need Fox anymore and is a ball stopper. Do you ever see him pass the ball to Huerter, Murray, Lyles? I mean thats his job to find them in their spots. There's also a problem with one too many guards. Monk is on a favorable contract is better for the team especially with Domas. And both Keon and Carter are cheap long term deals. Fox is taking up shots from Heurter, Murray and Lyles and is hurting their confidence as well as ball movement.
@@itsatrap4986 that’s a TERRIBLE TAKE on Fox. He’s as clutch as they come in the nba. EVERY PLAYER on the roster will tell you a player like that is a major commodity. He’s also the fastest player up and down the court with or without the ball.
That's not fox's job on this team 🤦🏾 Fox's job is to ball handler and score. And if he can get going then it opens it up for the other guys. Sabonis and Monk are the facilitators.
@@duncanyoung5903bro knock it off Fox is almost on his way out of Sacramento trade him for a haul of depth players we are missing and some more picks to make a splash next year or in the offseason ! Kings fans always wanna hold onto players too long man
@@cqaguilar This is exactly the problem. If Fox's job is not to facilitate, then he can't have the ball as much as he does. And, he's got to stop chucking up 8+ threes per game.
@kyshro, you dont understand NBA business. If star players walk away next summer free agency, Kings will get nothing. It's better to trade him now while he has some sort of value rather than losing Fox for nothing. I'd say Monte needs to trade him to the Eastern Conference team such as Nets, Charlotte or Detroit for a Forward or Center player and a couple of future 1st rounders and couple sack of potatoes...anything helps. Besides he's 28 years old, in a few years, he will be inury prone and will decline. Trade is a must now.
@@kyshroyou could trade Fox for a solid young player and some picks to make a big splash later ! He wants a super max contract yeah right ! Start monk and Ellis
You trade Fox, for size and a backnup big for Domas. Why the hell would you get rid of your shooters(and size) in Murray, Huerter and Lyles??? How many 6-3"< guards do you need?? Monk/Fox/Keon/Carter/Jordan/Mason
Keon ellis is a +19 point on-off rating, which ranks for 8th in the nba, that ranks aboce players like steph and wemby. And if you think thats a bullshit stat, guess whos number 1? Jokic. Imagine a defensive minded coach leaving a player like that when what we need more thann anything is defense and 3 point shooting.
How much do you guys pay Sam to come on the show? He’s a reporter, writer whatever he is. He’s going to stir the pot so he gets news to report on. Sam is just a Kings hater because he was here when they were bad and now they’re good he’s just flat out jealous.
They absolutely should have had a press conference. Monte had one when Luke was fired. Vivek and Monte look foolish and deserve all the heat for how they mishandled the whole thing, yes. However, a lot of the finger pointing at Fox, especially from the larger outside NBA world, was because the week before he appeared on the Draymond podcast talking about how the team wasn't good enough, the Rich Paul article came out later that week. All of that generated a lot of noise about Fox and his future. Most people do not know or care about what is happening with the Kings, but they hear that noise and so when Brown was fired in the midst of all that, yeah, they connected those dots however wrong they are. You can say it's not fair and it's bad timing or whatever, but that's part of the risk when you choose to play those games in the media as Klutch did.
Guys like Amick and James Ham are mainly about connections, access, climbing the career ladder - no one should take their opinions very seriously but unfortunately most do
I truly don’t want Fox to leave Sacramento but the front office have done what they can do (seemingly) to put pieces on the court who can move forward. It seems like this team can rarely sign high quality free agents.
California has the highest income tax in the USA and players don't get endorsement deals in Sac like they would in LA or SF. That's why I think Kings GM is most difficult GM position in the NBA
If you were Fox and you knew you could secure a gigantic bag next summer with the Kings, why wouldn't you push for an improved roster, knowing the Kings will likely supermax you if you get All NBA?
Kings don't need Ingram. We already have 2 wings. Besides you guys have Murray and McCollum already. If the Pels get involved it will have to be 3 team trade or something
Lol. You can say that about 90 percent of teams wins. Players are always injured. It's the biggest complaint of the NBA. They've instituteld several rules to try to get star players to play more .When isn't Ja or Embiid out/injured? I'll give you Dallas. That was was ridiculous. The Kings also didn't have Fox. If they lost, is their an asterisk? Do the games they lost when Monk was out for a month not count or the games DeRozan missed?
People forget he actually has a great relationship with Christie ,Monk is his best friend who he wanted in Sac, he's Keegan's mentor, Sabonis changed his career the way they mesh as a perfect big for him, he loves what DeRozan brings, on top of the fact that Sac can pay him the most money of any player in league history, so he's not going ANYWHERE...
@@SKOOBZTERZit's called a career year. He's almost 29. He's putting up points because the Nets have no talent so he's taking a lot of shots. How about we go by what he's done throughout his career instead of one 25 game stretch.
Sometimes I feel like I just rounded a corner in High School and caught some school girls talking about "Fill in hot Goss here". despite no actual facts or evidence to back it up... We are just asking questions right? Can we please move forward, this "Back to the Future" thing is getting old, imho Stay Frosty my friends ..Prepare for incoming Torching... dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge...
Idiotic suggestion for both sides. The Nets want to get younger and cheaper so they're going to trade for a 27 year old looking for a supermax and the Kings would be trading their best player for a guy who in his best day is the fourth best player on a contending team having a career year.
Trey has been doing better as well. Also, he's really locked in with the guys. Still remember the clip of his celebration during the DeMar take over in 2OT
Trade Fox now his value will drop. The kings will survive and will go on just like they have with brown. Sam last few articles have been bs and more national media view and always down talking the kings and proposing bs trades.
Exactly (about Amick), not sure why we should keep listening to Sam Amick when he's usually way off base Idk what to do about Fox.. need to see more games under DC
Monk and Keon is like a replica of Bibby and Doug. Fox should just off the bench like Bobby Jackson and just score or get traded because he's asking for a max.
Why would they trade Keegan when he brings exactly what the Kings need more size, 3&D, and size. Keegan has had a long slump it happens. He’s still potentially a knockdown shooter and lockdown defender with mid post skills.
Especially with 2 defense minded guards in keon and devin to cover the elite guards....so keagan doesnt have to. Keagan just needs to find his scoring self again.
He's looked better the last few games under Doug.
Since Doug took over he's started hitting 3's, it's so weird isn't it...
Keegan and Huerter losing their shooting at the same time then getting it back at the same time as well isn't a coincidence. The only writing on the wall is Doug makes them better
@@bigsnacks2350It's because Fox is hurting the team.
Didn't Sam Amick say extending Mike Brown was a no brainer and firing Brown was a huge mistake and scapegoat move?
they dont know what they're talking about, most of these media-tards are fair weather-band wagon critics and fans..it's like they're discussing as "Monday Morning Quarterback", if you even understand what that means.
What credibility does Sam Amick have left after he shamed Vivek into extending Mike Brown and insisted the organization keep Mike Brown despite many players apparently wanting a new coach
im starting to think youre Vivek's burner
@@d.9258 You think its more likely im a billionaire tech tycoon on a burner account, rather than a fan who dislikes false narratives being pushed and 20 million wasted which could have been used to improve the team?
😂😂🤡
@@d.9258you are the dumbest person to comment lmfao
You have to think about the present and future of the team. We don't need Fox anymore and is a ball stopper. Do you ever see him pass the ball to Huerter, Murray, Lyles? I mean thats his job to find them in their spots. There's also a problem with one too many guards. Monk is on a favorable contract is better for the team especially with Domas. And both Keon and Carter are cheap long term deals. Fox is taking up shots from Heurter, Murray and Lyles and is hurting their confidence as well as ball movement. @@d.9258
You have to think about the present and future of the team. We don't need Fox anymore and is a ball stopper. Do you ever see him pass the ball to Huerter, Murray, Lyles? I mean thats his job to find them in their spots. There's also a problem with one too many guards.
Monk is on a favorable contract is better for the team especially with Domas. And both Keon and Carter are cheap long term deals. Fox is taking up shots from Heurter, Murray and Lyles and is hurting their confidence as well as ball movement.
@@itsatrap4986 that’s a TERRIBLE TAKE on Fox. He’s as clutch as they come in the nba. EVERY PLAYER on the roster will tell you a player like that is a major commodity. He’s also the fastest player up and down the court with or without the ball.
That's not fox's job on this team 🤦🏾 Fox's job is to ball handler and score. And if he can get going then it opens it up for the other guys. Sabonis and Monk are the facilitators.
@@duncanyoung5903bro knock it off Fox is almost on his way out of Sacramento trade him for a haul of depth players we are missing and some more picks to make a splash next year or in the offseason ! Kings fans always wanna hold onto players too long man
@@cqaguilar This is exactly the problem. If Fox's job is not to facilitate, then he can't have the ball as much as he does. And, he's got to stop chucking up 8+ threes per game.
@@cqaguilar "facilitator and a scorer" - 😂😂😂
Kings tradings away their stars after getting back in the hunt & 5 game win streak. That makes ZERO sense 😂
Not if Fox plans on asking out this summer. Could get more for him possibly.
@@tom4life2001 he’s not winning cures everything people don’t use their heads
@kyshro, you dont understand NBA business. If star players walk away next summer free agency, Kings will get nothing. It's better to trade him now while he has some sort of value rather than losing Fox for nothing. I'd say Monte needs to trade him to the Eastern Conference team such as Nets, Charlotte or Detroit for a Forward or Center player and a couple of future 1st rounders and couple sack of potatoes...anything helps. Besides he's 28 years old, in a few years, he will be inury prone and will decline. Trade is a must now.
@ *Fox is 27 not 28 & we are half a game out of the play-ins. Stick with this group of guys. We will get in.
@@kyshroyou could trade Fox for a solid young player and some picks to make a big splash later ! He wants a super max contract yeah right ! Start monk and Ellis
You trade Fox, for size and a backnup big for Domas. Why the hell would you get rid of your shooters(and size) in Murray, Huerter and Lyles??? How many 6-3"< guards do you need?? Monk/Fox/Keon/Carter/Jordan/Mason
Lol
Keon ellis is a +19 point on-off rating, which ranks for 8th in the nba, that ranks aboce players like steph and wemby. And if you think thats a bullshit stat, guess whos number 1? Jokic.
Imagine a defensive minded coach leaving a player like that when what we need more thann anything is defense and 3 point shooting.
If the Kings trade the only wing on the roster they’re idiots.
You said Monte was most at fault for the 13-18 start. I'm glad the FO is much smarter than the fan base and media..
@ Monte is at fault for having 1 Wing on the roster and being in love with having 29 guards. Was, and still is. Talk to me in 4 weeks.
@@oliverf1729He is, but coach Brown was most at fault for 13-18. This roster was never 13-18 bad
@@AndrewKW12Monk/Keon > Monk/Fox Fox/Monk/Keon/Carter/Jordan/Mason...How many point guards do you need?
@@itsatrap4986 Does that explain the 13-18 start? Or was it more Mike Brown's fault?
Trading Fox makes sense. Preemptive strike. He will ask out, it’s no secret. Move him and get a younger stud plus picks/swaps
How much do you guys pay Sam to come on the show? He’s a reporter, writer whatever he is. He’s going to stir the pot so he gets news to report on. Sam is just a Kings hater because he was here when they were bad and now they’re good he’s just flat out jealous.
He pushes a narrative and it seems the rest of Sac media falls in line and parrots the same thing
Kings are good?
They absolutely should have had a press conference. Monte had one when Luke was fired. Vivek and Monte look foolish and deserve all the heat for how they mishandled the whole thing, yes. However, a lot of the finger pointing at Fox, especially from the larger outside NBA world, was because the week before he appeared on the Draymond podcast talking about how the team wasn't good enough, the Rich Paul article came out later that week. All of that generated a lot of noise about Fox and his future. Most people do not know or care about what is happening with the Kings, but they hear that noise and so when Brown was fired in the midst of all that, yeah, they connected those dots however wrong they are. You can say it's not fair and it's bad timing or whatever, but that's part of the risk when you choose to play those games in the media as Klutch did.
Sam sounds so hopeful that this will blow up in their face smh sounds like a shill for the Fox camp
Guys like Amick and James Ham are mainly about connections, access, climbing the career ladder - no one should take their opinions very seriously but unfortunately most do
I truly don’t want Fox to leave Sacramento but the front office have done what they can do (seemingly) to put pieces on the court who can move forward. It seems like this team can rarely sign high quality free agents.
California has the highest income tax in the USA and players don't get endorsement deals in Sac like they would in LA or SF. That's why I think Kings GM is most difficult GM position in the NBA
The fact that no one has done anything to be accountable for the MB firing is sure telling that Vivek was the one that pulled the plug.
If you were Fox and you knew you could secure a gigantic bag next summer with the Kings, why wouldn't you push for an improved roster, knowing the Kings will likely supermax you if you get All NBA?
He's not getting all NBA. There's way too many good guards for that to happen.
New Orleans Pelicans fan here, thoughts on trading Fox for Brandon Ingram?
No way, not straight up
monte would have to be high as hell to even pick up the phone
You’d have to give us 2-3 first round picks as well.
no
Kings don't need Ingram. We already have 2 wings. Besides you guys have Murray and McCollum already. If the Pels get involved it will have to be 3 team trade or something
You guys sound like your company is based in Los Angeles.
Last 5 game's theyve played teams without starters. Lets see how they perform when teams are healthy
Lol. You can say that about 90 percent of teams wins. Players are always injured. It's the biggest complaint of the NBA. They've instituteld several rules to try to get star players to play more .When isn't Ja or Embiid out/injured? I'll give you Dallas. That was was ridiculous. The Kings also didn't have Fox. If they lost, is their an asterisk? Do the games they lost when Monk was out for a month not count or the games DeRozan missed?
They just beat the defending champs in Boston. Sac had no Fox and the Celtics were fully healthy
Won’t even listen lol NAH. Kings can likely pay Fox more than other teams anyway, assuming we show promise and stuff he will definitely want to stay
People forget he actually has a great relationship with Christie ,Monk is his best friend who he wanted in Sac, he's Keegan's mentor, Sabonis changed his career the way they mesh as a perfect big for him, he loves what DeRozan brings, on top of the fact that Sac can pay him the most money of any player in league history, so he's not going ANYWHERE...
Sam has been really bad lately.
The sooner the better .... trade him ... 2 winning seasons in what 7 years ? he wont resign anyway so why keep him
Been saying this. Now is the time they'll get the most value for him. The return only decreases as they wait
Facts this is the Mitch Richmond trade, they gotta do it asap
Blaming him for the losing seasons is asinine.
Give the Nets 2 firsts, when Fox leaves the Kings can more than recover them!
That's WAY too much for a guy that doesn't make us a contender.
@@cqaguilar20 points per game 42% three defense ? Nah I’d give up 2 first especially since we can’t draft your trippin
@@SKOOBZTERZit's called a career year. He's almost 29. He's putting up points because the Nets have no talent so he's taking a lot of shots. How about we go by what he's done throughout his career instead of one 25 game stretch.
Sometimes I feel like I just rounded a corner in High School and caught some school girls talking about "Fill in hot Goss here". despite no actual facts or evidence to back it up...
We are just asking questions right?
Can we please move forward, this "Back to the Future" thing is getting old, imho
Stay Frosty my friends
..Prepare for incoming Torching...
dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge...
Anyway
Trade fox for Cam johnson. Start monk and Ellis, sabonis, murry and Cam
Idiotic suggestion for both sides. The Nets want to get younger and cheaper so they're going to trade for a 27 year old looking for a supermax and the Kings would be trading their best player for a guy who in his best day is the fourth best player on a contending team having a career year.
honestly i'd move fox for 2-3 first round picks .... unless its an all star its pointless ...
Plus a solid young piece
I understand Zion Williamson I don’t understand Cam Johnson Cam Johnson and Trey Lyles is the same player
Trey has been doing better as well. Also, he's really locked in with the guys. Still remember the clip of his celebration during the DeMar take over in 2OT
Trade Fox now his value will drop. The kings will survive and will go on just like they have with brown. Sam last few articles have been bs and more national media view and always down talking the kings and proposing bs trades.
Exactly (about Amick), not sure why we should keep listening to Sam Amick when he's usually way off base
Idk what to do about Fox.. need to see more games under DC
@@AndrewKW12it seems recently he is disconnected with what is happening with the kings and is reporting the national nba script. Losing Cred
Trade Fox pls
Monk and Keon is like a replica of Bibby and Doug. Fox should just off the bench like Bobby Jackson and just score or get traded because he's asking for a max.
lol fox off the bench is the funniest kings take i’ve ever heard 😂
@ducknuts6146 woosh ..
Woosh...You're obviously slow. @@ducknuts6146
Monk is 1000x more like Bobby Jackson than he is anything like Bibby.
@@ducknuts6146 Yeah why not? He should be off the team. What points are you not getting?
Kings should trade Fox for some picks and a solid young wing ! Load up on picks to make a splash later on ! Idk why kings fans are so stuck on Fox 😬