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“Noble solemnity” is a beautiful description of many Chopin pieces. I think of Nocturnes as accepting a brutal reality while maintaining ability to keep hope alive and recognize silver linings.
I am blown away that such a talented and knowledgeable man is prepared to share his deep knowledge with the world. My lifelong search, so far unsuccessful has been to find a tutor with his ability to explain the way forward and guide my feeble efforts in the correct direction. .
I didn't realize there were two versions of that section. I always wondered why sometimes I would hear this piece, even from accomplished pianists, and that part would sound "off". Now I know why!
Yes there are 2 versions in my Henle book. This nocturne is technically not too difficult but it is difficult to play well in terms of musicality. I am still struggling😩
I have tried to play Chopin lately and have gone through lots RUclips videos.... I have not seen one with such beautiful and tone matching explanation and clarity in Chopin's piece. This is truly a valuable video to watch for anyone who wants to know more about Chopin's music. Thanks for sharing your expertise with all of us.
Celeste, you must be out of your mind: I'll send you THE 2 BEST AT LENGTH INTERPRETATIONS of this nocturne. Believe me: YOU'LL OWE ME..........FOR EVER. I MEAN..........FOR EVER!! ruclips.net/video/SSo4oX0SUtI/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/AqDQEq4UwOM/видео.html. After casual going through both, you wanna let me know if I was OVERDOING IT with my remark. ENJOY!!!!
This is absolutely fantastic! I remember being quite confused about the ending, with the scales and the picardy third. Aside from the technical prowess, this piece definitely does have a very deep musical meaning.
Thank you for doing these wonderful videos! I love your refreshing look through the piece and the emojis do add a spirit to attain in the piece in my head! I appreciate that you close with the piece, in full, without interruption. Have watched many of your videos, but leaving my first comment. Thanks VERY much for your simple and friendly approach, it is appreciated. Please continue!!! I have much to learn! :)
Thank you for an inspiring tutorial. As with your podcast lessons, an encouraging mix of technical and interpretative advice. And as always with the lightest of touches.
i might tackle this piece soon. Been studying scarlatti and bach, which helped improve my technique a lot; now hope i can make these nocturnes sound beautiful! As always, thank you for your insight Henrik :)
The middle part of this Nocturne has always sounded a bit "off" to me. Now I know why. The mixed time signature version sounds right even if way harder to play.
Very helpful. I have been working through all the versions and picking and pulling my favorite bits here and there and trying to make it coherent. I like your solution to the 3 against 4 section. You give it a peaceful tension which sounds "right" somehow. Thank you very much!
Thank you for this refreshing video! I enjoy the way you talk about Chopin's music....you remind me of a young Niklas Sivelöv (perhaps you've studied with him?)
May I make a small suggestion for the intro? I'm not hearing the PP in bars 3&4. So - how about using the soft (Piano) pedal for bars 3&4 - Then there is a suptle transition of volume & tone colour when the main theme first comes in on bar 5. Also this would ensure that bars 3&4 aren't an exact repeat of 1&2 Which is one of those small details noted in Chopin's works.
Can you please also do another Chopin Nocturne piece: op 27 no 2 in Db Major"? Really enjoy your Chopin Nocturne Analysis, great insights, wonderful interpretation, execution, emotions and dynamics, plus very helpful historical background and beautiful demonstration. If you could also include "overhead camera" to show the hand motion and fingering, what would be really helpful. Thanks much!
Thank you so much Luxi, I'm very happy you enjoy my videos! :) Right now I have finished a big batch of the Nocturnes but I might do the Db major some time in he future. And I will probably do some kind of camera upgrade soon, so then there will be more angles as well!
Thank you for a thorough dissecation of this marvelous piece of music. I have been rehearsing this piece lately, and have come across so many variations and different versions. I am following the Henle notation, although there are some elements from other versions that I like. I do however like playing the A major part strictly as written in Henle, with 4 beats in the right hand over 3 beats in the left hand. On bar 30 the third note in the left hand is shown as a C, which is a C sharp in this key. In the Henle version, this note is a D (D sharp). This is also what you play at around 5:47 in this video, even though your sheet says otherwise ;) In my head, the C sharp is better, because it creates a pattern that repeats itself in bars 29 and 30. It is also more interesting to me with the G#sus4 chord than a G#5add7 (or something like that). What are your thoughts on this particular motion?
I wanted to thank you for your very clear helpful suggestions on dynamics. This piece is a challenge for me with all those double sharps and C# feels hard so I guess that might mean I need some scale work? ! You give an excellent lesson. I would like to send a small token of appreciation to you. How do I do that?
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it! The double sharps are hard to learn because they are not what they seem to be at first sight. But once you realize they are just another note (like Cx=D), you can start to learn the right hand positions for playing it. It would be very kind of you, I have a Paypal for one: www.paypal.com/paypalme/hkilhamn My e-mail is sonatasecretspod@gmail.com.
Very very nicely played. I'm currently playing this piece also. Your scales are very clear indeed. Do you play the scales with full pedal or just a little bit? Thank you!
I appreciate your explanation of this piece. Why doesn't anybody play the sotto voce less loud in the second part? And what edition has the major in measures 62-63? I have Urtext and the change to major comes in measure 64.
So many different versions exist of this piece, it seems. I am studying it at the moment and I noticed lots of differences with the Schirmer Edition. Different dynamics, trill locations, extra sharps. In the Schirmer Edition, the left-hand goes to C# Major in the last 2 bars, not before that. Did Chopin himself create the different versions?
That’s what Edward Snowden’s is doing in hiding. Learning this piece now and never knew there was another version. Might Lear the extra passage and see which one I prefer. Thank you.
I would recommend to start with the "squeezed" version, and then when you know that you can start to experiment with the compounded time signatures, I think that should be easier. As for my own preference as I say I try to find some middle ground almost...
What do you think of the slurs and pedal markings on the edition with the longer major section? They seem to imply a breath at the end of every single four note block. I like it, but I never hear anyone play it like that. Other than that you're the closest to the actual score I have I've seen, so thank you!
It was published posthumously, written for a friend and not meant to be published. Chopin didn't call it a Nocturne. But I agree any collected Nocturnes should include it. Not to do so is pedantry.
At 3:40 it's looks right hand is playing triplets The think I didn't understand is why chopin chose different time signatures for both hand when he simply could write triplets for right hand and 8ths for left can anyone explain this to me
Thank you for this analysis! I am currently trying to figure out in what musical form this piece is in? I have heard that it's in Ternary form, is it true? If it's true, is it in a true A B A form? How would you divide the different sections? e.g. where would you say that the A part start and ends, the same with the B part, etc? This might be a lot of questions, but I really thank you in advance for any help and clarification!
Yes, I would say it's in ABA / ternary form. The B section is not completely new music, but enough contrast to call it a separate section: a new key area (A major), new rhythmic ideas, preceeded by a clear phrase ending, and then with a clear ending of the B section (fermata in C# major). Then the A section comes back, just a little varied with ornaments going into a short Coda closing the piece. It's different for every piece that doesn't follow a clearer form like Nocturne, but generally I would divide it into different sections if there is enough contrast to the preceeding section, but that contrast can take many different forms (tempo, key areas, rhythms, textures, dynamic etc)
Why is the 3/4 section played so much faster? The 1/4 of these section sounds about double the speed of the 1/4 of the rest of the piece. Everyone seems to do this, but why? That section does not have a different tempo indication and would the assumption not be to stay with the same tempo?
Henrik… please please please… Resolve my dilemma between editions Henle Urtext (with most others for that matter), and the Paderewski Urtext?… The first time - at just about 6:24 - fourth beat is WRITTEN (and played by most EXCEPT *YOU*, and me as I learnt in college) with a c-natural (a-minor third before the first beat of next measure, where it’s a-sharp & c-sharp)… YOU PLAYED with a-major third (c sharp upper note) to a-sharp-minor third, in effect tying the two two intervals by the common c-sharp in both intervals… with same theme at 9:33, you DO play as written on the inset, the minor interval to minor interval, stepped up by the half step …. In the Paderewski, the e major recap at end is written the same as you PLAYED the first B major secondary theme… Am I confusing this post up at bit? If you have both editions available, please see yourself? Recap: Henle edition has the “chromatic” step up in both theme presentations (a minor to a sharp minor; d minor to d sharp minor); Paderewski edition has the major third to minor third step up in both theme presentations (a major to a sharp minor; d major to d sharp minor)… In measures 24/25, and measures 48/49 10:24 Which is it? Please? It’s driving me insane that I learned from an edition some 45 years ago I thought to be the “gospel” edition from the Chopin Institute… THANK YOUUUU!😊
Hello, sir. I am a humble patron of music and one of its many admirers. I have always loved Chopin's music. I wanted to know that what does exactly chopin mean by 'simplicity' as he says that simplicity is the highest goal achievable?
It gets philosophical to think about it. Simplicity is one tenet of beauty, but complexity is another (think of Bach fugues), and art operates inbetween contradictions.
There are many versions and his version doesn't have a tie. The version with ¾ too in the second part that was known to be the original version doesn't have a tie too.
In this case it's a Neapolitan chord (bII/3 in roman numeral analysis). A substitute for F# minor (the chord before) - it's instead D major in first inversion (F# in the bass).
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That's great. What level or grade is the arrangement? Also, which other pieces and composers have you written easy arrangements?
“Noble solemnity” is a beautiful description of many Chopin pieces. I think of Nocturnes as accepting a brutal reality while maintaining ability to keep hope alive and recognize silver linings.
I am blown away that such a talented and knowledgeable man is prepared to share his deep knowledge with the world. My lifelong search, so far unsuccessful has been to find a tutor with his ability to explain the way forward and guide my feeble efforts in the correct direction.
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I love the use of emojis!! Very descriptive.😊
Henrik, you make a better world.
I didn't realize there were two versions of that section. I always wondered why sometimes I would hear this piece, even from accomplished pianists, and that part would sound "off". Now I know why!
Yes there are 2 versions in my Henle book. This nocturne is technically not too difficult but it is difficult to play well in terms of musicality. I am still struggling😩
I have tried to play Chopin lately and have gone through lots RUclips videos.... I have not seen one with such beautiful and tone matching explanation and clarity in Chopin's piece. This is truly a valuable video to watch for anyone who wants to know more about Chopin's music. Thanks for sharing your expertise with all of us.
Celeste, you must be out of your mind: I'll send you THE 2 BEST AT LENGTH INTERPRETATIONS of this nocturne. Believe me: YOU'LL OWE ME..........FOR EVER. I MEAN..........FOR EVER!! ruclips.net/video/SSo4oX0SUtI/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/AqDQEq4UwOM/видео.html. After casual going through both, you wanna let me know if I was OVERDOING IT with my remark. ENJOY!!!!
謝謝分享😊值得收藏的教學。謝謝您，祝順心愉快。😊
Its cool the emoji is expression the feeling of classical music ! Show more emoji for the younger view..
I'm glad you like them! :)
What a great video
This was my graduation piece for my music school when I was 13... I felt very happy that I could play a composer such as Chopin
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This is absolutely fantastic! I remember being quite confused about the ending, with the scales and the picardy third. Aside from the technical prowess, this piece definitely does have a very deep musical meaning.
I could listen to you explain anything. So thoughtful and articulate. Especially loving the goatee :)
Thank you for doing these wonderful videos! I love your refreshing look through the piece and the emojis do add a spirit to attain in the piece in my head! I appreciate that you close with the piece, in full, without interruption. Have watched many of your videos, but leaving my first comment. Thanks VERY much for your simple and friendly approach, it is appreciated. Please continue!!! I have much to learn! :)
Just beautiful. Your explanation & playing
Really like your faces and other illustrations employed on the face of the music while you are doing your analysis. Very helpful!
This was great! Exactly what I was looking for
You really deserve waaaay more subscribers man
Thank you for an inspiring tutorial. As with your podcast lessons, an encouraging mix of technical and interpretative advice. And as always with the lightest of touches.
Congratulations Mr. Kilhamm!
Thank you!
I like your channel and thank you for your beautiful playing and I wish that I can play it as well as you did. greeting from Germany
Thank you so much! :)
Thank you beautiful playing
This was very interesting and helpful. Thank you so much.
A fine analysis! Thank you!
Thank you!
Priceless knowledge & passion to share. Thank you!!!!
Tqu so much mr Henrik for the exellent explanation.. Gbu..
Very nice!!! Complimenti.. Grazie
It is such a treat to hear your trills and runs, they are so soothing that bring the audience to another world!! Big Thank You!!
Thank you, I'm not a pianist therefore I appreciate your comments and explanation.
Thank your for your wonderful analysis and performance of this beautiful piece!
i might tackle this piece soon. Been studying scarlatti and bach, which helped improve my technique a lot; now hope i can make these nocturnes sound beautiful! As always, thank you for your insight Henrik :)
Good luck Tsi! Scarlatti and Bach are great for foundation no matter what level, I'm currnetly doing Bach inventions.
@@SonataSecrets I'm going to learn this piece today! :)
ohh crap this is my first piece :o should i find an easyer one?
The middle part of this Nocturne has always sounded a bit "off" to me. Now I know why. The mixed time signature version sounds right even if way harder to play.
noble solemnity.....yeah henrick u rock... luv ya and the vids...
Fantastic!
Very helpful. I have been working through all the versions and picking and pulling my favorite bits here and there and trying to make it coherent. I like your solution to the 3 against 4 section. You give it a peaceful tension which sounds "right" somehow. Thank you very much!
Amazing as always!
Layers of flavor.
This channel is fantastic yo! More pls
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Thank you for your analysis and very nice playing! I hope one day I can compose something like that...
Thank you for this refreshing video! I enjoy the way you talk about Chopin's music....you remind me of a young Niklas Sivelöv (perhaps you've studied with him?)
Thanks! I haven't studied with Sivelöv, but I admire him.
Excellent video!
May I make a small suggestion for the intro? I'm not hearing the PP in bars 3&4. So - how about using the soft (Piano) pedal for bars 3&4 - Then there is a suptle transition of volume & tone colour when the main theme first comes in on bar 5. Also this would ensure that bars 3&4 aren't an exact repeat of 1&2 Which is one of those small details noted in Chopin's works.
Can you please also do another Chopin Nocturne piece: op 27 no 2 in Db Major"? Really enjoy your Chopin Nocturne Analysis, great insights, wonderful interpretation, execution, emotions and dynamics, plus very helpful historical background and beautiful demonstration. If you could also include "overhead camera" to show the hand motion and fingering, what would be really helpful. Thanks much!
Thank you so much Luxi, I'm very happy you enjoy my videos! :)
Right now I have finished a big batch of the Nocturnes but I might do the Db major some time in he future.
And I will probably do some kind of camera upgrade soon, so then there will be more angles as well!
Thank you for a thorough dissecation of this marvelous piece of music. I have been rehearsing this piece lately, and have come across so many variations and different versions. I am following the Henle notation, although there are some elements from other versions that I like. I do however like playing the A major part strictly as written in Henle, with 4 beats in the right hand over 3 beats in the left hand.
On bar 30 the third note in the left hand is shown as a C, which is a C sharp in this key.
In the Henle version, this note is a D (D sharp). This is also what you play at around 5:47 in this video, even though your sheet says otherwise ;)
In my head, the C sharp is better, because it creates a pattern that repeats itself in bars 29 and 30. It is also more interesting to me with the G#sus4 chord than a G#5add7 (or something like that).
What are your thoughts on this particular motion?
Super! Thank you!
thanks so much!
Thank you so much for this video 👌
I bought Chopin Nocturne for the piano and found it only has 19 Nocturnes. This one wasn’t included. Totally in shock.
Thanks
I wanted to thank you for your very clear helpful suggestions on dynamics. This piece is a challenge for me with all those double sharps and C# feels hard so I guess that might mean I need some scale work? ! You give an excellent lesson. I would like to send a small token of appreciation to you. How do I do that?
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it! The double sharps are hard to learn because they are not what they seem to be at first sight. But once you realize they are just another note (like Cx=D), you can start to learn the right hand positions for playing it.
It would be very kind of you, I have a Paypal for one: www.paypal.com/paypalme/hkilhamn
My e-mail is sonatasecretspod@gmail.com.
Thank you for the video. I am willing to die if I can play this piece as beautifully as you do.
Brilliant lesson. Hope you would add the music sheet at the part of the performance too, so that i can explore and read what was taught earlier.
thanks for making this, helped a lot
Very very nicely played. I'm currently playing this piece also. Your scales are very clear indeed. Do you play the scales with full pedal or just a little bit? Thank you!
Brilliant
I appreciate your explanation of this piece. Why doesn't anybody play the sotto voce less loud in the second part? And what edition has the major in measures 62-63? I have Urtext and the change to major comes in measure 64.
Meraviglioso! Grazie
Great!
Beautiful, thank you for sharing. I am working on this nocturne and the Op. 9, No. 2. Do you have that analysis too by any chance?
Yes I have! ruclips.net/video/TEZH0oMuSJs/видео.html
@@SonataSecrets Thank you! I will be checking that out as other videos of yours! 👏🏻🤗🤗🤗
Bravo
!!!!! Замечательно, чудесно. Огромное уважение.
So many different versions exist of this piece, it seems. I am studying it at the moment and I noticed lots of differences with the Schirmer Edition. Different dynamics, trill locations, extra sharps. In the Schirmer Edition, the left-hand goes to C# Major in the last 2 bars, not before that. Did Chopin himself create the different versions?
I love the emotes lol
That’s what Edward Snowden’s is doing in hiding.
Learning this piece now and never knew there was another version. Might Lear the extra passage and see which one I prefer.
Thank you.
Gracias
Would you recommend to play min 4.22 the complicated part or weird part actually that way, or to stick with the squeezed in version.
I would recommend to start with the "squeezed" version, and then when you know that you can start to experiment with the compounded time signatures, I think that should be easier. As for my own preference as I say I try to find some middle ground almost...
What do you think of the slurs and pedal markings on the edition with the longer major section? They seem to imply a breath at the end of every single four note block. I like it, but I never hear anyone play it like that. Other than that you're the closest to the actual score I have I've seen, so thank you!
It was published posthumously, written for a friend and not meant to be published. Chopin didn't call it a Nocturne.
But I agree any collected Nocturnes should include it. Not to do so is pedantry.
Awww I really love those emojis! 💨 💨 💨
can you please make a tutorial/analysis on Chopin: Nocturne "Oubliée" in C Sharp Minor A1 No. 6
though am no where near the level that hear on recordings have made a lot of [progress that has surprised me
At 3:40 it's looks right hand is playing triplets
The think I didn't understand is why chopin chose different time signatures for both hand when he simply could write triplets for right hand and 8ths for left can anyone explain this to me
12:33 it’s like Spanish guitar.
Thank you for this analysis! I am currently trying to figure out in what musical form this piece is in?
I have heard that it's in Ternary form, is it true?
If it's true, is it in a true A B A form?
How would you divide the different sections? e.g. where would you say that the A part start and ends, the same with the B part, etc?
This might be a lot of questions, but I really thank you in advance for any help and clarification!
Yes, I would say it's in ABA / ternary form. The B section is not completely new music, but enough contrast to call it a separate section: a new key area (A major), new rhythmic ideas, preceeded by a clear phrase ending, and then with a clear ending of the B section (fermata in C# major). Then the A section comes back, just a little varied with ornaments going into a short Coda closing the piece.
It's different for every piece that doesn't follow a clearer form like Nocturne, but generally I would divide it into different sections if there is enough contrast to the preceeding section, but that contrast can take many different forms (tempo, key areas, rhythms, textures, dynamic etc)
Why is the 3/4 section played so much faster? The 1/4 of these section sounds about double the speed of the 1/4 of the rest of the piece. Everyone seems to do this, but why? That section does not have a different tempo indication and would the assumption not be to stay with the same tempo?
Is the little figurine that sit on the piano one of your favorite composer ?
It's Beethoven :)
Thanks for letting me know and btw really enjoy watching your videos . Very insightful . 👍🎹
Thanks!
Can you give me the site to purchase those figurine pls ?
I'm sorry I don't know, I only got it as a gift a long time ago...
😻💓💓💓💓💓👏
Where can i get the copy with the ¾ time signature?
👍
Henrik… please please please…
Resolve my dilemma between editions Henle Urtext (with most others for that matter), and the Paderewski Urtext?…
The first time - at just about 6:24 - fourth beat is WRITTEN (and played by most EXCEPT *YOU*, and me as I learnt in college) with a c-natural (a-minor third before the first beat of next measure, where it’s a-sharp & c-sharp)… YOU PLAYED with a-major third (c sharp upper note) to a-sharp-minor third, in effect tying the two two intervals by the common c-sharp in both intervals… with same theme at 9:33, you DO play as written on the inset, the minor interval to minor interval, stepped up by the half step …. In the Paderewski, the e major recap at end is written the same as you PLAYED the first B major secondary theme…
Am I confusing this post up at bit? If you have both editions available, please see yourself?
Recap:
Henle edition has the “chromatic” step up in both theme presentations (a minor to a sharp minor; d minor to d sharp minor);
Paderewski edition has the major third to minor third step up in both theme presentations (a major to a sharp minor; d major to d sharp minor)…
In measures 24/25, and measures 48/49 10:24
Which is it? Please? It’s driving me insane that I learned from an edition some 45 years ago I thought to be the “gospel” edition from the Chopin Institute…
THANK YOUUUU!😊
Hello, sir. I am a humble patron of music and one of its many admirers. I have always loved Chopin's music. I wanted to know that what does exactly chopin mean by 'simplicity' as he says that simplicity is the highest goal achievable?
It gets philosophical to think about it. Simplicity is one tenet of beauty, but complexity is another (think of Bach fugues), and art operates inbetween contradictions.
@@SonataSecrets ok, thank you for ur time. Kind sir.
Serait ce possible d'avoir les commentaires en français ?
2:11 there should be a tie
It doesn't look like a tie at all.
@@ChristineEverth no it does
@@ChristineEverth my sheet music has a tie
There are many versions and his version doesn't have a tie. The version with ¾ too in the second part that was known to be the original version doesn't have a tie too.
What is a wow chord? Diminished?
In this case it's a Neapolitan chord (bII/3 in roman numeral analysis). A substitute for F# minor (the chord before) - it's instead D major in first inversion (F# in the bass).
Familiarity breeds contempt! When something is overplayed, or played to death, it makes one tend to dislike hearing it.
Chopin was bipolar!
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We came to hear the music, not you!!!!!
The video title literally says "Analysis"