Passover - Death of the Firstborn: Exodus 11-12

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  • @JonathanPageau
    @JonathanPageau  Год назад +32

    I hope you all have a blessed Pascha. Remember to sign up for The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe

    • @FrJohnBrownSJ
      @FrJohnBrownSJ Год назад +6

      blessed Pascha to you as well

    • @lilseraphim8544
      @lilseraphim8544 Год назад +4

      Blessed Pascha!!! Christ is Risen!!! ☦️

    • @ChristIsKingPhilosophy
      @ChristIsKingPhilosophy Год назад

      When you said that you are sacrificing a lower thing instead of your son when you kill your best animal, as if it were a lower quality sacrifice, you got it backwards. It's not the grace of God which accepts a lower quality sacrifice, it's the grace of God which makes it a higher quality sacrifice. The sacrifice of yourself is inherently better than the sacrifice of your son, so is therefore your animal sacrifice better than your son. Otherwise you unwittingly invert the lower and the higher sacrifices.
      The animal sacrifice only seems to be inferior if we are starting from the historical presupposition of the covenant without seeing Christ, of the sacrificed son having to be the tip of the spear as a separate sacrifice from yourself, ignoring that you are fulfilling both sacrifices by sacrificing your animal. It is as you said: Christ fulfills both, and He is present in the sacrificial system.
      The "tip of the spear sacrifice" (your son) is basically the sacrifice towards time that guarantees integrity (or continuity, it establishes manifestation materially, it "fixes truth" by embodying it, it is the love of the Son towards the Father), but it's not the higher sacrifice towards God on the part of the sacrificing father: it's the lower sacrifice, the circumcision of the body, the goat left in the wilds, the horizontal and bodily. Because the very frame of the tip of the spear is projecting in time.
      The sacrifice of yourself (which is present in the sacrifice of the animal) is the sacrifice towards space, the higher sacrifice, the circumcision of the heart, the goat that goes on the altar, the vertical and spiritual. Both are needed, but the higher justifies the lower: the higher sacrifice is the spiritual origin of the Son, the love of the Father towards the Son, the giving of everything into His hands, the glorious tasks of redemption and rule towards Christ, and of stewardship to man). Let the one who boasts boast in the Lord.
      If you put the sacrificial system before the incarnation as a separate thing from it, even if it chronologically happened before it, it makes you invert the lower and the higher sacrifices and leads to confusion. It would be a form of Gnosticism not to see Christ present in the garments of skin.

  • @rusty159753
    @rusty159753 Год назад +32

    When you said "giving up" I realized that little phrase contains so much more than it appears. We never give down, only up. I then asked "Why do we have such a negative experience when giving up?" I think when "giving up" actually means giving down is when we denigrate those who do so. It's not a sacrifice that goes up, it is a sacrifice of the upper for the lower. For example, when we stop pursuing a worthy goal because we are weak, we settle for something lesser by giving up the higher thing. It's why we encourage children to persist. It's why we are told to never stop repenting.

    • @JakeThe_Dog
      @JakeThe_Dog Год назад +4

      I know you don't know me, but I'm in tears reading this.
      You've set my heart on fire once more.

    • @jacobschmidt
      @jacobschmidt Год назад +2

      One of the best comments I’ve seen, wow

  • @birhanuabelneh6938
    @birhanuabelneh6938 Год назад +16

    Dear Jonathan thanks for this wonderful insight. My name is Birhanu from Ethiopia. My understanding of forbidding Yeast is that ..because as a normal/regular practice in every household ...people put in some fermented dough that carries yeast from leftover of previous day/s dough and similarly leave some for the coming day...regular cycle. Therefore as the lord commanded a new beginning of everything for Israelis God forbids them bringing/mixing the old with the new one so that the new beginning be absolutely new with no contamination of the past. Thats my understanding.
    Thanks and bless you.

    • @oneofmany7051
      @oneofmany7051 Год назад

      As a baker of sourdough bread, this explanation makes sense to me. "Thinking out loud," along that same line, it seems it would also make sense that leavened bread be use for the Holy Eucharist as a sort of new leavening, a new sourdough starter, if you will, as we have found new life in Christ; Christ begins a new cycle. And we should partake in the life of Christ on a daily basis; Christ is our daily bread. 🤔

    • @JayBThomas
      @JayBThomas 7 месяцев назад

      Hello Birhanu, I think you are right. I think this is the same as when jesus asks us to be like salt. To be pure salt that has taste and not like contaminated salt that is mixed with sand, to be thrown out.

  • @pierremeshreky4331
    @pierremeshreky4331 Год назад +10

    You're changing my life more and more with your teachings. Thank you and Christ is risen

  • @davidbusuttil9086
    @davidbusuttil9086 Год назад +11

    About why the day of the month: With the days leading up, there is an importance in preparation. The houses had to be thoroughly searched for leaven, and for the week before passover the lambs had to be inspected for blemishes. This hunt for leaven and hunt for blemishes are central to holy week. Perfect/full (7) searching for both and then perfect celebration. Three Sevens

    • @paulr5246
      @paulr5246 Год назад

      There is an interesting article on bible numerology in the commentary of the Orthodox Study Bible, Revelation 20- on the number of the beast.

  • @NewsRedial
    @NewsRedial Год назад +5

    New logo animation is nice but the previous one was sublime.

  • @2m_rvs
    @2m_rvs Год назад +1

    Amazing analysis, blessed Pascha!

  • @jontrammell7377
    @jontrammell7377 Год назад +6

    I think the metaphor of growing wheat is my favorite. If you dont give up a significant portion of the grain you harvest, you will not have a harvest next season. Setting aside the first grains would also grant protection against potential catastrophe if disaster were to strike later on during the harvest. No matter the amount of grain lost, you would always have enough to plant next time.

  • @njo191
    @njo191 Год назад

    I absolutely treasure this series! Thank you for exploring such deep concepts in such a unique manner. It really helps expand my view of scripture.

  • @DrakeLewis
    @DrakeLewis Год назад +3

    On the days and months: the day of Passover is exactly 430 years Israel had lived in Egypt (Exodus 12:41). There's a lot of debate on that 430 year number, but we can generally surmise this was in fulfillment of God's statement to Abraham about Israel being mistreated in a foreign land for 400 years (Genesis 15:13). One theory I'll throw out is that 400 is an elongated version of the number 40, which is generally associated with a period of testing. The extra 30 is relevant for a typological reading of this passage, which I'll get to in a moment.
    The month is near the beginning of Spring, which lines up nicely with the idea of a new beginning. The festival starts on the 10th of the month, 10 being the number of judgement (10 plagues, 10 commandments). Then, each household must keep a lamb with them for three periods of time - the 11th, 12th, and 13th of the month. Then, on the 14th day, the lamb must be slaughtered at twilight.
    This is in reference to Christ. He was about 30 when he started his ministry (thus the extra 30 beyond 400), which lasted 3 periods (years). He was in the house of Israel, like the lamb that lives with the household during Passover. He was crucified at twilight during the Passover festival, just as the lamb is killed by the people it lived with on the 14th. The typological reading is very rich, and there's more to say here, but I think the point is made.
    Another commenter already mentioned that the 7 days for the festival of unleavened bread refers to a symbolically complete period of time. We can imagine it as a period of sanctification, much like what the Church has been experiencing ever since Christ's death and resurrection.

  • @pathfinding4687
    @pathfinding4687 Год назад +9

    A note on the reason God commanded the Israelites to use 'unleavened bread' and why it became an instructional religious tradition to eat it.
    When Adam and Eve fell, they did so by absorbing Lucifer and his love into themselves instead of God and God's love. The love of this false God manifest as sin, original sin and is passed down to every generation no matter how pious or holy the person lives their lives.
    When a baby is born, there is little life to the baby, it has original sin but no life experience so no personal sin to add on top of that. The original sin we all inherit is like a seed that unfortunately exists in a parasite like state within our souls. Satan can not create, only God can create, so this parasite like seed of original sin requires the natural and good grown process that is given to our souls by God and that still works in our lives despite our fallen state.
    As we grow and experience life in both the physical and spiritual sense, our spirit grows and due to the parasitic nature of Lucifer's engrafted, false God attachment to us, our sin grows along with our natural self.
    This is why God gives religious people and especially the pre-Jesus Israelites a strict and spartan lifestyle. The idea is to prevent or limit the growth of sin which will inevitably leech and gain power from it's host. The idea being that when Jesus finally arrived, he would find a priestly, chaste, God loving people and the engrafting onto the true tree that is Jesus would be precipitated by first an 'un-engrafting' from the false God of Satan. The weaker the connection to Satan, the easier the un-engrafting process would be. Then once this process is complete and the faithful are engrafted to the true tree of life, God's love can revitalise them and bring them back to full life.
    It's shockingly amazing that we see this exact process all throughout nature and even medicine. Cancers such as leukaemia are an ideal example of this principle. Leukaemia is a cancer of the blood and actual bone marrow where blood is produced. In order to engraft to the bone marrow (marrow transplant) of a healthy person, the cancer patient must first bring their body to a state of near death. Instead of having them be as vital and healthy as possible, they must be close to death. But it is not the patient being close to death that helps the transplant process, that is just a necessary sacrifice. It is that the only way to diminish the power of the parasitic cancer is to diminish the whole self, both body and parasite/cancer. The idea being that the body can survive the punishment just a little longer than the cancer. Or at least that both can be reduced in power as much as possible so when the marrow transplant occurs, its healthy state can overpower the cancer and revitalise the near death host.
    In the same way, God gives us a strict religious life that is a stress on us but also tampers down our sin, so that when we receive the love of God like spiritual antibiotics via our engrafting to Jesus, we come to life.
    So going back to the unleavened bread, God is always showing us these principles, not necessarily just in symbolic forms, but in ways in the natural world that they are also applied.
    Bread, like our life, can grow to fullness, but in order to do that, the micro-organism of yeast gets to piggy back on the dough by drawing off the sugar so it can multiply.
    Denying the dough the yeast keeps the bread unleavened and does not allow it to expand and grow to it's fullness.
    In this example, I'm still trying to work out/decide if it is the yeast that represents sin and the dough/bread that represents us or vice versa.

  • @ruslpit2615
    @ruslpit2615 Год назад +3

    I’m never disappointed

    • @the2ndcoming135
      @the2ndcoming135 Год назад

      Same. So far I’m crushing the firstborn olympics💁🏽‍♂️

  • @Alexander_Isen
    @Alexander_Isen Год назад +1

    I have a friend in my parish who bakes sourdough bread while he studies. I asked him about the symbolic significance of unlevened bread in Exodus but he said he didn't know. Now I can tell him!

  • @archanglemercuri
    @archanglemercuri Год назад +3

    “• i am • hadereck, haemes, hachayyim (the way, the law, the Tree of Life” we add: “• U • are also, a way, a law, a tree of life”

  • @sennewam
    @sennewam Год назад +2

    Glory to God

  • @davidbusuttil9086
    @davidbusuttil9086 Год назад +3

    If yeast is seen as the exterior as you said, it's interesting because celebrating Pentecost at the temple in OT law involves presenting leavened bread. So symbolically it involves the introduction already of the outsider. AND in jewish tradition Pentecost is the day the Torah was given, and when God spoke he did so in every know tonged so all could understand

  • @harveyambrose1166
    @harveyambrose1166 9 месяцев назад

    Jonathan, thanks for presenting this and your analysis of it. I’m preaching the book of exodus to Liberia, via radio: and am having great difficulty bringing to coherent thought an idea that keeps coming to mind. The idea is “what is the full significance of the death of the firstborn?” It seems that you’re wrestling with this idea also.
    As for the specific days of the month of Abib, i.e.. the 10th, the 14th; my belief is that God precisely scheduled the Passover to exactly coincide with the events of the week in which Christ, our Passover, would be crucified. Knowing the end from the beginning, and having delivered up Christ by His determinant counsel and foreknowledge, God instituted the first passover to perfectly foreshadow the True Passover.

    • @AlexanderEggleston-w4k
      @AlexanderEggleston-w4k 8 месяцев назад

      I have to sacrafice the first thing that comes from me as a way of saying " Even though this is the first of me....I am not the first"
      Just like how a way of living/knowing, that is present in someone before knowing Christ, must be sacraficed/discarded or redeamed ....in the light of Christ.
      The first of something is usually the least adulterated version of whatever that first emerges from.
      So do not confuse the most pure version of something ...from yourself...with God
      Christ is the only true First Born

  • @jovanhranisavljevic6111
    @jovanhranisavljevic6111 Год назад

    I don't know why not yeast. I can only compare it with military dry bread (used when there is no kitchen). Easy to carry, gives energy, does not take up space, does not bloat the stomach. Many of the techniques used in special units are very similar to monk techniques. In fact, Christianity is a struggle against myself

  • @GatheringJacob
    @GatheringJacob Год назад

    I believe the reason for the 14th is because it was a “hag” festival to travel to Jerusalem. So The first of the first month the shofar was sounded. This was called to notice and count the months, ESPECIALLY the first month. This was a reminder to prepare and GO to Jerusalem for the solemn feast. Similarly, Shavuot is the middle of the month, similarly Sukkot when the yom teruah announces the first of the 7th month. This is a common practice for all “hag” festivals.

  • @bozidarsadak
    @bozidarsadak Год назад +4

    I just realized who the first born is!
    Its the father or the parents actually, not the son or the first child.
    In family, father, mother, children. They are a group. Inside that group parents are the first born, children are the second born. Parents need to sacrifice themselves, their personal desires and wants in order to give themselves life in the future through children or the thing which comes second.
    If they just concentrate on themselves, children are going to be neglected and they are not going to thrive. You are killing your children, you are killing your own seed. Its pointless just like dribbling on its own in basketball. You are going to have that taken away anyways, the dribbling or your own life.
    I hope this makes sense :D

  • @HrvojeSL
    @HrvojeSL Год назад +2

    I hesitate to comment lest I be exposed as a pretender in my biblical understanding, but here goes anyway...
    Could it be that all of this takes place beginning half way through the first month to demonstrate kind of an overlap in time between the old and new identities? For example is that not what happened between the old and new covenants? The new covenant was initiated by the Life, Death and Resurrection of the Lord, yes? And yet there was a slight gap in time, a slight overlap of about 40 years until the complete collapse of the old covenant became clear with the destruction of the temple in AD 70

  • @categoryerror7
    @categoryerror7 Год назад +3

    Which translation do you use for these videos? It’s much easier to follow, I’d love to get my own copy. Thank you!

  • @kkolodner
    @kkolodner Год назад +1

    months in the hebrew calendar are attached to the cycle of the moon. the 15th of the month is when the moon is full. you slaughter the lamb on the day of the 14th but eat it in the evening which is the 15th. Anyway the symbolism of the date probably has something to do with the full moon.

  • @WarInHeaven
    @WarInHeaven Год назад +2

    Does the days have something to do with the moon cycles?

  • @mikelarrivee5115
    @mikelarrivee5115 Год назад

    This notion of sacrificing the first born cones up in the parable of the vineyard. In that story though the people in charge of the vineyard fail to offer the first fruits up and try to take them for themselves.

  • @stevennewberg9993
    @stevennewberg9993 Год назад

    Christ is Risen!
    Perhaps the unleavened week is an encouragement to prolonged care and restraint at the outset of realizing one’s new identity.
    The three sets of 14 generations in St. Matthew’s genealogy (1:1-17) maps onto the lunar cycle to qualify the broad movements of Israel’s history (see F.D.Bruner, Matthew, p. 7-14). Besides being brilliant on Matthew’s (the Holy Spirit’s) part, it demonstrates a Hebrew attentiveness to the significance of the moon’s waxing and waning. As noted by others here, the week after Passover would be the first full moon of the year waning to a half moon. To appropriate St. Matthew’s terms, the prolonged ban on leaven might represent a prolonged mindfulness or discipline of care at the very start even though that’s just when distinctions may seem clearest and most visible. In fact, it will take a while, and some humility-some dimming of self-awareness-for the fullness of identity to be realized and retained. Until then, mind what influences you allow to determine your course.
    A bit of a wild guess, but humbly submitted to Jonathan, who’s mastery has been such a gift to me!

  • @ChristIsKingPhilosophy
    @ChristIsKingPhilosophy Год назад +3

    When you enter the land, as well as when you make love to your wife, is when you have to remember the love of Christ as you go into death.

  • @DanaJumper
    @DanaJumper Год назад +1

    Perhaps the 14th thru 21st day mirrors Passion Week.

  • @SunShineGrim
    @SunShineGrim Год назад +3

    🙏

  • @bradicas5359
    @bradicas5359 Год назад

    Is there any correlation with feng shui in the way the entrance of the house was marked with blood.

  • @wesleyclayswank6732
    @wesleyclayswank6732 Год назад +1

    The key to understanding the days here is that the 15th of every Hebrew month is the full moon. It was required that the priests and elders saw the phases of the moon with their own eyes to determine when certain rituals and court proceedings were to take place. This is not unique to Israel as, "...reflecting the lunar origin of the Roman calendar. In the earliest calendar, the Ides of March would have been the first full moon of the new year." Given the Edomite origin of the Greek Kings and Roman Emperors and the Jews coming from his brother Jacob, a sacrifice of a Sheep to YHWH and Jove during the first full moon of a New Year makes sense. The Lord was already setting up a base on which to build the Church in Rome during the time of Moses.

    • @watermelonlalala
      @watermelonlalala Год назад

      The "Edomite origin" of Greeks, Romans, any Europeans is a Big Lie. Modern day political propaganda and anti-Christian, to boot.

  • @Subeffulgent
    @Subeffulgent Год назад

    You have a good way of looking at it. It's a very Roman Catholic way of looking at.

  • @LaurenHPotts
    @LaurenHPotts Год назад

    ChuckMissler suggested yeast represented sin or a type of infiltration

  • @CarlosVargas-jz8gl
    @CarlosVargas-jz8gl Год назад +1

    Well the clip channel has good content to get more videos out of😎

  • @psylegio
    @psylegio Год назад

    I read that the lamb would be tied on a wooden cross and roasted with the front legs spread out on the patibulum, in a purpose built oven used only once. Not a very subtle symbolism is it?

  • @silvinasi
    @silvinasi Год назад

    Do the days of the month correspond to the phases of the moon? Didn't the Jewish people use a lunar calendar? That would mean that the phases of the moon would correspond roughly to each week.

  • @nickchef9296
    @nickchef9296 Год назад

    Christ is Risen!
    A thought about the number of days; 21, and 14. 7 is the indivisible number. However, 21 and 14 are both divisible by 7.
    The 14th day is bi-union (7x2). The 21st day is complete in tri-unity(7x3).
    Just my theory.

  • @random_person6041
    @random_person6041 Год назад

    💚💚💚💚

  • @JohnSaber
    @JohnSaber Год назад

    👍✝️

  • @Chud_Baker
    @Chud_Baker Год назад

    This is a sad explanation for why elder siblings are ritually sacrificed. Not only did you not reveal why but you couldn't use even a basic example

  • @Shotzeethegamer
    @Shotzeethegamer Год назад

    take what you need and leave the rest, but they should have never taken the very best

  • @polemizator723
    @polemizator723 Год назад

    33:00

  • @the2ndcoming135
    @the2ndcoming135 Год назад

    Luke 20:47((N.L.T.))☄️

  • @tensevo
    @tensevo 10 месяцев назад

    If you fail to give it all up,
    it will be taken from you.

  • @MR-G-Rod
    @MR-G-Rod Год назад

    Much like the inaccessible potential field of possibilities out of which quantum particles gain their physical form, I think going far out into outer space would eventually brush up against an inaccessible potential field of possibilities.

  • @hereweare835
    @hereweare835 Год назад

    Easter really?

  • @ruslpit2615
    @ruslpit2615 Год назад

    Does tradition say what Cain’s mark looks like?

  • @js1817
    @js1817 Год назад

    You start by saying "identity" a thousand times and end with the classic Christian idea that sacrifice of what is valuable is necessary. I like that we're trying to understand religion, but this is kind of a weak performance. I agree that the stories of the Penteteuch are tools of remembrance and identity, but I don't see the point of the death of the first born. Calling it a symbol of the need for sacrifice is weak as an explanation. The fact that the death of Jesus is remembered as the sacrifice of a first born and that this (Christianity) came from the jewish religious imagination is an interesting link. I'd like to think about similarities and differences with human sacrifice in Irish and Aztec and Sumerian and Canaanite religious traditions.

  • @notloki3377
    @notloki3377 Год назад

    if victims of the transexual epidemic should be entitled to legal compensation for having their genitals mutilated, someone circumcized without their consent should be entitled to the same compensation for involuntary ritual genital mutilation surgery performed before a proper consent could be given.